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adviser to three Secretaries of

1:00

the Kids and helped shape

1:02

and President Barack Obamas National

1:04

Security platform. Is. Focus

1:07

included working on the Obama Administration's

1:09

Middle East Peace mission. Eric.

1:12

Champion: The Iron Dome. Counter.

1:14

Rocket System which has been credited.

1:17

With. Helping the Israeli Hamas cease

1:19

fire And Twenty fourteen. Eric.

1:22

Dr. Phil here. welcome. Thank. You

1:24

grabbed me Dr. Phil. Well

1:26

thank you so much So

1:28

fascinated to. Talk. To you

1:31

at many different levels. I

1:33

have been following an. Actually,

1:36

Commenting on this. Israeli.

1:39

Hamas situation since. October

1:42

seventh actually. And.

1:45

Have. Been very critical of. What's.

1:48

Been going on recently with. Media.

1:52

And the world leaders as

1:54

well kind of bailing on

1:56

Israel and being. I

1:59

think. Kind. Of weak kneed about. Their.

2:02

Position in protecting themselves.

2:05

Against Hamas who still holding

2:07

hostages and. Have.

2:10

Been. Very. Critical of

2:12

what's happening. At. Some

2:14

of our American universities. As

2:17

well. so. Was.

2:20

Not surprised to see around do what

2:22

they did but I was very pleased

2:24

to see how it affected it was.

2:27

And. I know you've got some history with

2:29

this iron dome that I'm interested in talking

2:31

about. Were you surprised to see. The.

2:34

Attack from Iran. I

2:36

know I was not surprised to

2:38

see an attack on Iran anti

2:40

that lamplugh me pause before I

2:42

get into us some more details

2:44

on what happened on Saturday. Just

2:46

it's to tell you that I was

2:49

honored to to serve as a

2:51

senior adviser to multiple sectors of

2:53

defense or at the Pentagon. Served Papa

2:55

Gates and and Leon Panetta ah

2:57

the opportunity to to work for

2:59

up. At one. Sector to

3:01

fancy was originally applied by Republican

3:03

and other sectors Defense upon it's

3:06

A by Democrats and still what

3:08

we knew at the Pentagon. I

3:10

continue know today is that. Our.

3:14

Security for our nation, the United States,

3:16

as well as for our ally, Israel,

3:20

Ah, He. Goes. About politics

3:22

or the military level and I appreciated

3:24

that. On I worked for Sector Gates

3:26

as well as for Sector Banana and

3:29

working on the U S Israel Defense

3:31

Relationships are including the training. Jointly.

3:34

Ah against a ballistic missile attacks

3:36

like we saw Saturday or something.

3:38

I will time to do force

3:40

for six years or so and

3:42

answer directly to your question. I

3:45

was I surprised by and running

3:47

attack on Saturday know? ah but

3:49

I think many were surprised or

3:51

by the press. Of the

3:53

attack and we can go through some of the

3:55

numbers if you would like to. Buy

3:58

them To say from the outset. That

4:00

I was most pleased with our. Joint.

4:04

Efforts: the I'd states and Israel

4:06

together. Having the successful.

4:09

Ability. To counter those

4:11

ballistic and cruise missiles that were being

4:13

fired or from Iran or at Israeli

4:15

civilians or and Israeli. Turns out because

4:17

of all the training that we have

4:19

been together and all of the technologies

4:22

that the United States and Israel or

4:24

works on a together a thought in

4:26

the past when I serve at the

4:28

Pentagon and continues to do so Now

4:30

I'm glad to hear you say that

4:32

because when we get to military and

4:34

it goes above politics it. Makes.

4:36

Me: Feel. Like we're. At

4:40

least for that part of time. Focused

4:42

on Be and Americans and stood republicans,

4:44

democrats, and. We need to

4:46

remember we are all Americans. I

4:48

agree wholeheartedly. Ah, if it's okay with

4:51

you, I just I just wanna share

4:53

a some of the the training the

4:55

United States and Israel does together to

4:57

counter the rocket attacks. Ah that is

4:59

similar to the one that took place

5:01

on Saturday. I. Wish he would. As

5:04

as we look at. What?

5:06

The Iranians did on Saturday and

5:08

and we can talk about the

5:10

the day, the background of ah

5:12

with a to be. When.

5:15

I would say the Iranian false. Narrative.

5:18

As to why they wanted to attack

5:20

Israel. Know they were. Arguably.

5:23

Trying to retaliate for to

5:26

have their generals being killed

5:28

or in Damascus. Ah,

5:31

Those. Generals were at least

5:33

by reports and in the

5:35

press ah working together with

5:37

Hezbollah and and Hamas a

5:39

to attack Israel. And

5:42

the attacks that was alleged to

5:44

be made by these realize they

5:47

haven't taken credit for it. although

5:49

it certainly looks like ah there

5:51

ah. Past actions are similar to

5:53

that. But. Let's

5:55

talk about the actual attack on Saturday. Be.

5:58

Iranian started the attack. With

6:01

several hundred slow moving journals. And.

6:03

Eyes we think about that in military

6:06

terms, or that was effectively a diversion.

6:08

It. Wasn't attempts to get the it's a

6:11

Israeli air defenses and of course we

6:13

were traits. Was it out of them

6:15

United States and and other partners a

6:17

to detect any sort of attack coming

6:19

in from Iran and so those slow

6:21

moving drones took several hours to get

6:24

there. It's of the Iranians. New.

6:27

Or had to have known that

6:29

be a radars. Some.

6:32

Israel as well as Com or states

6:34

military assets and the region would not.

6:36

And so that wasn't the point of

6:39

the attack even though they did have

6:41

explosives on them. Ah it was to

6:43

a swarm in to have a diversion

6:46

that would lead the U S I

6:48

and Israeli. I count our

6:50

systems to be occupied with those limits

6:52

been drawn so they could fire over

6:54

one hundred ballistic missiles and that the

6:57

number that I saw out of that

6:59

Israel and out of. The

7:02

Spokesperson for the National Security Council or

7:04

my friend and Will John Kirby. At

7:07

the Us Navy stating that there

7:09

was. Thirty cruise missiles fired

7:11

as well and I mentioned earlier want

7:14

to talk about some of the joint

7:16

training that the second place but going

7:18

back to the year two thousand Nine

7:20

and this is all in the. Spirit.

7:24

Can read about in the press. The

7:26

United States military trained with our allies

7:29

and the Israeli Defense Forces are. using.

7:31

Several layers of. Missile.

7:35

Defense To defend A scenario where

7:37

the wrote missiles and rockets that

7:39

were fired from the East or

7:41

at Israel from an unknown. Ah,

7:44

that. training proved to be very effective

7:46

on Saturday. And we can

7:49

go to some of the different levels

7:51

I that were used. Ah, but Israel

7:53

has multi tiered counter rocket and counter

7:55

missile systems and we've developed that. Ah.

7:58

But with the Israelis and the. The

8:00

stage and. Pleased. To see

8:02

it's effectiveness on Saturday. But of course you

8:04

and I both disappointed to see that need

8:06

to be used. World. Course

8:09

so people understand. Talk.

8:11

About the different characteristics of the ballistic

8:13

missiles in the cruise missiles, What were

8:16

they dealing with? What? A

8:18

difference between the two threats? Yeah,

8:20

very very good question. So a

8:22

Cruise missiles ah they are fly

8:25

are almost like on aircraft with

8:27

ah accurate or ability to target.

8:30

Ah, And they can fly at high

8:32

altitudes or are low altitudes. And

8:35

a ballistic missiles are fired up

8:37

into the atmosphere and then and

8:39

then come down with still some

8:41

ability to aim but less effective

8:44

and and less aims than a

8:46

than a cruise missile. For fair

8:48

listeners, just at the most basic

8:50

level and started the different levels

8:52

are tears as they're called out

8:54

a counter miss on counteract. this

8:56

isn't that Israel operates have to

8:59

do with both. Be distance at

9:01

wish those are fired and the

9:03

altitude that they fly. Or

9:06

so the. Lowest. So it's

9:08

with the top. Actually the top tier is it

9:10

is a system that was developed to be the

9:12

United States and Israel which is called the Arrow

9:14

System. It's one that United

9:16

States, Israel have been working on sports

9:19

cars over twenty five almost thirty years

9:21

now. And. I was specifically

9:23

designed for this type of interceptions and

9:25

if you look at the results from

9:28

Saturday night, I haven't seen a full

9:30

after action report. Now that I'm in

9:32

the private sector by a smoker, my

9:35

friends and colleagues at the Pentagon or

9:37

and there were successful intercepts by the

9:39

Israelis are as well as or by

9:41

Isis militants and the Arrow system. Israelis.

9:45

on Saturday nights. I was able

9:47

to intercept some missiles that worked

9:50

up over a hundred and fifty

9:52

kilometers. Above the earth,

9:55

That it is if you think about the

9:57

arrow system going back to the days of.

10:00

The and Reagan in Star Wars. something

10:02

that the United States I was not.

10:05

I successfully employing are we now have

10:07

the ability to do that as to

10:09

the israelis of the of arrows are

10:11

the second level down and for gonna

10:13

speak about it on the next year.

10:16

I. Is. Something that the

10:18

Israelis operate called the David Sleep. The.

10:21

David's Sling uses a more it's Ah

10:23

a system to counter mid range rockets

10:25

and those Ballistic missiles that we referred

10:27

to Ah and the Israelis are effectively

10:29

use that as well. And then the

10:31

third system is the one that I

10:33

was honored to to work on. most

10:35

specifically when I was at the Pentagon

10:37

as the lead for and that is

10:40

the Iron Dome System or that is

10:42

intended for short range rockets. nine interview

10:44

earlier Raise the. Ah,

10:46

Fights and the war with Hamas in Gaza

10:49

right now many of those rockets or food

10:51

or out of Gaza Israel for many many

10:53

years. but the Our Dog can also be

10:56

used effectively against the rockets that were fired

10:58

or and missiles that were fired out of

11:00

her aunt if they come into the shortage.

11:02

So he started the top tier with

11:04

the arrow. The. Mid range is called

11:06

a David Slings and then Deeds ah closest,

11:09

a tier that's used for really smaller rockets

11:11

but can be used for larger are at

11:13

a short range if they're not able to

11:15

be it sooner or is the Iron Dome

11:17

system. The. Overall, how

11:19

effective was the of you were talking

11:21

about? A. Hundred ballistic missiles

11:23

and thirty cruise missiles. And

11:26

then we had. You. Said

11:28

several hundred slow moving drones. How

11:31

were the drones eliminated? While

11:33

again I I, I want to emphasize that

11:35

that I'm now in the private sector side

11:37

or have the a hundred percent accuracy of

11:39

what. Was done on and

11:42

on Saturday but I will give you

11:44

my my assessment of it. My assessment

11:46

is that ah the drones. it's moving

11:48

as slow as as they were were

11:50

likely taken out by the by aircraft.

11:53

Meeting a fighter aircraft. Know the

11:55

Israelis fly. They have thirty five

11:57

such as the a High Stick.

12:00

Yeah. I said has

12:02

a stealth capabilities are they also fly

12:04

after games in their sixties ah of

12:06

course are also to the Israelis oh

12:08

by the United States and and week

12:10

or partner with them and and train

12:12

with air force other pilots com denied

12:14

states the train and and the nice

12:16

decks are foresaw transferred the Israelis as

12:18

well and a lot of those. Are

12:21

exercise that I referenced earlier So my

12:24

my guess would be that the time

12:26

slow moving drones were taken out by

12:28

by aircraft pants are you know I've

12:30

seen reports the birds a lot of

12:33

that took place over the airspace part

12:35

of the country join. Me: From

12:37

part because they were slow moving

12:39

into be received. Ah, the. So

12:42

that's to your question about the about the

12:44

drones. You asked

12:46

about percentage effectiveness? I

12:49

have seen a press reports that it

12:51

was ninety nine percent effective and if

12:53

there were three hundred, so I'd total.

12:58

Projectiles, If we're going to

13:00

include drones and missiles together fired Israel's

13:02

and I would say it was somewhere

13:04

between ninety eight, ninety nine percent effective.

13:06

That means that somewhere between three and

13:08

six did actually land ah in in

13:11

Israeli territory or Jordanian territory even if

13:13

they weren't aiming for dorm room. And

13:15

there were no fatalities that we know

13:17

of, right? Or that's correct. I actually

13:19

just us all reports this morning that

13:22

there was the one injury to a

13:24

young a young girl ah, and is

13:26

really girl who lives in their negative.

13:29

Luckily for for I shouldn't say

13:31

luckily but.on the positive side for

13:33

her, she was not kit with

13:35

the directed a lot missile. My

13:37

child likely unfortunately wonder was underneath

13:39

the direction of a missile would

13:41

not survive but she was hit

13:43

with shrapnel. Awesome! One of the

13:45

orange missiles that was intercepted. And

13:48

unfortunately when you finish out the

13:50

missile or there are so large

13:52

metal pieces and and fragments that

13:54

out Paulson. And

13:56

so I sat next. To

13:59

Nothing. The altogether three hundred projectiles

14:01

and over one hundred and thirty

14:03

missiles fired at Israelis are There

14:05

is only one injury than that.

14:07

It's a a a pretty positive

14:10

outcome. I'm. Shooting. Down those

14:12

mrs built when these f thirty

14:14

five than your fifteenth and sixteenth

14:16

took out the drones. Were.

14:18

They doing that. One at a

14:20

time where they doing it with machine

14:22

gun fire from the fighters. Or how

14:24

are they taking those out? Cassette several

14:27

hundred to those saying solas like Bird

14:29

Hutton. Yeah like

14:31

my guess is they were

14:33

probably use bird shot rather

14:35

than buckshot. Said like.i say

14:37

exerts. Us. Also

14:40

placed on. Aircraft.

14:42

Carriers in the region which

14:44

means that we were like

14:46

decline or aircraft. Ah, The

14:48

have a T that fly often. funny

14:50

America cares as well as U S.

14:53

F, Thirty five and F fifteens it

14:55

that plan wire bases in the Arabian

14:57

peninsula. I would have been there to

15:00

help on those as well. When you

15:02

ask about one of the time in

15:04

I I I don't I know the

15:06

exact method that that they use but

15:09

when those drones were slow moving or

15:11

they were really not much of an

15:13

aspirin aircraft mother was a of fifteen

15:15

or sixteen or Us and fifty yards.

15:18

Of enable aircraft or aura Israeli a

15:20

thirty cyber U S F thirty five

15:22

have been there there used to fix

15:24

other fast it moving aircraft ah in

15:26

a in a dogfight not a slow

15:28

moving drop which is why I said

15:30

what I said the beginning just nice

15:32

analysis from for me in the press

15:34

was the drones were sent as a

15:36

diversion snow thinking that that was can

15:38

be the only attack and then the

15:41

missiles. I am right afterwards I attempted

15:43

to actually hit civilians it in Israel

15:45

and how big are those drones? well

15:47

I don't know. The exact size of

15:49

the drones the Iranians used by take

15:51

they could be with us journal in

15:53

size Sky is the side of as

15:55

a small airplane but that we also

15:58

have very small on drums are. Use

16:00

for surveillance or and into their non

16:02

lethal patrols. I can be quite small

16:04

and I only have let's say three

16:07

to four. Weeks

16:09

or so to the Iranians could have used

16:11

both of those. I haven't seen reports which

16:13

ones they didn't but the fact that they

16:15

were slow moving My guess is they used.

16:17

Ah there it. Less expensive option because

16:20

they are on a Kamikaze mission of

16:22

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It. This an embarrassment. To.

18:01

Iran or me when the. Of

18:04

a they launch. A

18:07

hundred and thirty missiles, hundreds

18:09

of drones, Is. This

18:11

an embarrassment to them to fail

18:13

so badly or. Was.

18:16

This. I'm. A gesture.

18:18

Maybe. I started right way to phrase

18:20

that, but. Did they not

18:22

want to inflict severe damage on

18:25

Israel? Was this sub? Kind

18:27

of a desperate gesture or was is just

18:29

a. Terrible. Failure

18:31

on their part. Five. An

18:34

hour? Or put it this way. My

18:37

sense. In their.

18:39

Goals. In attacking

18:42

Israel was one two and

18:44

inflict. Pain on

18:46

Israel or into to

18:48

continue to exacerbate. The.

18:52

What? Their perception is

18:54

the isolation of Israel.

18:56

And in both of those goals,

18:59

they have failed miserably. Number.

19:01

One as we discussed earlier there was

19:04

one injury and israel and nobody kill

19:06

which were thankful. Number

19:08

Two: Instead of further isolating Israel

19:10

which are we can have a

19:12

discussion after this, I don't believe

19:14

Israel is isolated and all United

19:17

States continues to be strongest allies,

19:19

but in their attempts of that

19:21

they have actually reversed. And.

19:24

Had a one hundred and eighty degree

19:26

reversal or failure of that goal. Because.

19:29

What we saw on Saturday evening

19:31

was not just the Israelis, Defending

19:34

their territory. it's and shooting down

19:36

those missiles and drones but working

19:38

together with a coalition that we

19:40

know one hundred percent was the

19:42

United States. We know that it

19:44

included the British and French and

19:46

there are other partners in the

19:48

Middle East have participated that for

19:50

reasons of their own internal politics

19:53

and Atlantic on credit for doing

19:55

so and and we respect that

19:57

but the effect that was a

19:59

coalition. Defending. Israel against

20:01

an Iranian attacks or. Says

20:03

to me. That one. Of

20:06

the Iranian schools was a miserable

20:08

failure. Well. That's certainly seems

20:10

like it to me. I. Do

20:12

want to talk about the Iron dome? Because.

20:16

This is something that. Is.

20:19

Fascinating. To me

20:21

and. I've heard so

20:23

much about it. But.

20:25

This is something that. Kind

20:28

of set dormant for a good

20:30

while. Is that correct? Yes. Ah,

20:32

soaps be Iron Dome is a

20:34

technology that the Israelis our time

20:36

for a number of years facing

20:38

the short range rockets that that

20:40

we spoke about earlier coming out

20:42

of cause of ah and out

20:44

as a weapon. And

20:46

their technologies was one

20:48

that was being built

20:50

and they had sought

20:53

support. From. United States

20:55

I going back as far too

20:57

but the or two thousand and

20:59

eight and unfortunately at that time

21:01

I there was a test that

21:03

was the taken by the United

21:05

States to defend sector at the

21:07

Pentagon or down a Redstone arsenal

21:10

where we test are are are

21:12

missile defense systems and I came

21:14

back at that time that it

21:16

was not as effective as the

21:18

United States. Ah what it was

21:20

to see it's ah and it

21:22

was more expensive than. Initially, So.

21:25

At that point it was rejected.

21:28

I'll by that defense prior to

21:30

the time when the when I.

21:32

Started. Serving at the sector to

21:35

pass arts and in how did

21:37

it come back online? Get started

21:39

again. When. I first came

21:41

to light the Secure defenses office

21:43

at The And Our Own Defense.

21:45

There was a. File

21:48

that was. I. On.

21:51

My desk so to speak, My figurative

21:53

desk as the head of the Us.

21:55

Israel Defense Relationship at that time. In

21:57

two thousand and nine and it had

21:59

been rejected. As a magic

22:01

and at that time. At

22:04

Israel. Had taken. Rocket

22:07

fired from Gaza getting a

22:09

schools in an area called

22:11

State Root. Word

22:14

on children had been killed in

22:16

our families. I had many injured.

22:19

And. I.

22:21

Had. Seen. This system

22:23

as a. Possibility to be able

22:25

to shoot down as rockets. About

22:27

saw that it was rejected and

22:30

I began to acts more research

22:32

into it and met often. With.

22:34

Our counterparts in the Israeli

22:36

Defense Forces, where they raised

22:38

the iron dome as a

22:40

possibility to be able to

22:43

carry that as well or

22:45

one particular. Officer.

22:47

Who was there? As you know,

22:49

every country in their embassy in

22:51

Washington. Censor: Defense Attache. I

22:54

usually only officer from

22:56

their Rv. Our. Military

22:58

that will work with the Pentagon based

23:00

out of their embassies at that point

23:02

in time and two thousand nine The

23:05

Defense Attache working out of the Embassy

23:07

of Israel ah was a under general

23:09

by the name is Penny. Guess. I

23:11

raise his name. Now because he

23:14

went on further tubes both lead

23:16

the Israeli defense forces as the head

23:18

of those forces up and then to

23:20

become the Minister of Defense of Israel

23:23

and he is now I serving in

23:25

the Israeli Knesset and as bird

23:27

of the ah what they call their

23:29

more cabinets he joined together with the

23:32

government after October Seventh or to ensure

23:34

that there would be unity I in

23:36

the decisions are made by the Israeli

23:39

government. On adapt region against

23:41

I would meet with me off and

23:43

at the Pentagon and we'll discuss range

23:45

of issues with the United States and

23:47

Israel could cooperate or to include those

23:49

exercises I referred to earlier and he

23:51

told me that the iron dome had

23:53

been improved since the our first test

23:55

in two thousand and eight ah were

23:57

was not as effective ah previously and.

24:00

Said that if there were to be eight and

24:02

additional tests that it would prove much more effective.

24:05

So at that point in time I went

24:07

forward to. Ah, The.

24:09

Leaders I was in the Pentagon

24:11

to discuss that with a man's

24:13

life. I know you've had many

24:15

interactions with with us or generals

24:17

and admirals and realize there are

24:19

there are on. Let's put it this

24:22

way, not a lot of opportunities

24:24

if his or something has failed

24:26

wants to get second chance. they

24:28

don't get a lot of second

24:30

bites of the apple with a

24:32

gang. And pepper and as

24:34

direct that is correct. So ah I

24:36

had a few up on say figurative

24:38

door slammed in my face and physical

24:40

ones and that's a few I may

24:42

say years. That said, this is never

24:44

going to gonna be effective. We tested

24:46

in are ready and it wasn't ah

24:48

but I. Persevered. Because

24:50

I I understood not only that

24:53

general gas and put his reputation

24:55

on the line by telling me

24:57

that this has been improved but

24:59

also that ah, those civilians that

25:02

were being fired at ah in

25:04

Southern Israel. Ah. Do not

25:06

need to live their life our apartment

25:08

either Sector Defense Gates at the time

25:10

ah or President Obama the time I

25:12

wanted to see happen and then I.

25:15

I also thought to myself. That

25:17

if we are able to advance the

25:19

technology like the Iron Dome, not only

25:21

would it be able to be used

25:23

to protect civilians, In

25:26

Israel, but it would be able to

25:28

be used in the future to protect

25:30

our American troops, American civilians, and and

25:32

other allies are around the world. And

25:35

so I I continue to push, persevere

25:37

and ah eventually convinced her secretary Gates

25:40

that we needed a second test on

25:42

the Iron Dome system and I worked

25:44

together. I don't want to thank us

25:46

all credit myself. I had the times

25:49

wrote to practice Li with size under

25:51

sectors as Michele Flournoy end of the

25:53

deputy sector as the top our talk

25:56

to to make sure that we could

25:58

advance that test and. The

26:00

good news is that that tests came back success.

26:03

Who are back down to Redstone Arsenal? In

26:06

Alabama and start the Missile

26:08

Defense Experts in United States

26:10

Army. Retested.

26:12

The Iron Dome system and

26:14

disappointed came back with much

26:16

better Results are very successful.

26:19

Ah on. On the tests

26:21

and time. And we knew from

26:23

the United States Military that the system

26:25

would be effective and that I should

26:27

it be able to be fielded. ah

26:30

it would help in. Shooting

26:32

down Rocket center for it Israel

26:34

and really added changing but the

26:36

entire way that these really have

26:38

to deal with attack that are

26:40

coming in and short range rocket

26:42

and potentially changing the way the

26:45

I states deals with storage ratify.

26:47

At that point. So. To the

26:49

extent it's you can assuming I've never

26:52

use the i Don't for to explain

26:54

how it works. I will

26:56

will assume that you are Norris of

26:58

Up nor anyone is not a Nazi,

27:00

Israeli or the Us military as as

27:02

ever used or the I don't previously.

27:05

it's first and most important for your

27:07

listeners. The notes Ah although it is

27:09

named the Iron Dome or it is

27:11

not. A Dome. Ah and I

27:13

have been asked that many times that

27:15

are. Some folks have thought that we

27:18

actually helped set up a dome over

27:20

over Israeli rounds earth or or Basis.

27:22

Or the way the I Don't Ah

27:24

works is it is. It is an

27:27

missile to missile intercept system so I.

27:29

You. Use a radar system that has to

27:31

be top the line. Radar.

27:34

Detection And you really to detect it

27:37

right after that rocket or missile expired.

27:39

And. Then it uses

27:41

a very sophisticated I. Am.

27:44

Peter an algorithm to calculate ah,

27:46

the trajectory of that missile and

27:49

obviously or anyone who's taken physics

27:51

even in high school level recognize

27:53

that that's very difficult catalyst to

27:55

make given the speed lot of

27:57

get it the on knows of

28:00

the atmosphere, when door or storms

28:02

or or otherwise. Ah and then

28:04

the way the Iron Dome fireworks

28:06

is that It It fires, it's

28:08

own. Rocket or interceptor missile

28:11

at it as it's called. Ah

28:13

to hit that. First.

28:16

Rocket in the air. And I

28:18

would describe it as best I

28:20

can in in layman's terms as

28:22

trying to shoot a bullet with

28:24

another board and year. Ah,

28:27

It is something that is. An

28:30

unbelievable achievement of physics and science

28:32

at and computer algorithm calculations to

28:34

be able to do something like

28:36

that. Ah when missiles Iraq is

28:38

are moving at the speed at

28:40

a i know that's amazing to

28:43

me because you described it. The.

28:45

Way I was envisioning like this is a

28:47

bullet. Trying. To hit another

28:50

bullet? Yeah. I played tennis every

28:52

day or my life and. I think. Two.

28:55

Times in. Thirty.

28:57

Years. We've. Had

28:59

that tennis ball hit another tennis

29:01

ball in the air of over

29:03

the now to be word chances

29:05

like twice and thirty years did

29:07

you guys have like at Ninety

29:09

Nine per se as he writes

29:11

something traveling at. God. Knows

29:14

what speed, Up in

29:16

the atmosphere. So oh the precision

29:18

of this is staggering. It is

29:21

truly impressive. Ah, Ahmet tennis player

29:23

myself and I have have not

29:25

thought about it from that concepts

29:27

other than to say this would

29:30

not likely be able to be

29:32

done by even the I the

29:34

sharpest of the give much sharpshooters.

29:37

This is definitely something done by

29:39

technology and the ability to calculate

29:41

ah using the radar ah and

29:44

the algorithm of of trajectory. Of

29:46

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29:48

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30:58

the point. I just mentioned earlier

31:00

about Humans vs. on. Computerized.

31:03

Are automated systems The initial fire

31:05

of responses made on automated system

31:07

but but those units that work

31:09

it both of the Israeli military

31:11

and the Us military is now.

31:14

The Us military has Iron Dome

31:16

systems as well. It requires. A

31:19

team that will work and they to

31:21

change it or in route as well. And

31:23

I just want a pause there for

31:25

a second. As I mentioned the United

31:27

States acquiring it's own iron dome systems

31:29

to protect our troops. I will say

31:31

that on. I was very pleased

31:34

to see that the Commander in

31:36

Chief and the sector to censor

31:38

Gerry Austin made the decision at

31:40

the beginning. Of the

31:42

Gaza War after October seven that

31:45

are, The United States has now

31:47

sent over our iron Dome systems

31:49

to help. Backfill What

31:52

the Israeli i don't' systems

31:54

are doing. Well. So

31:56

did are able to to use those

31:58

as well I which is much needed

32:00

because. You know, if we were to talk about.

32:02

What? One of the potential.

32:05

Ah, sense of how the Iron Dome

32:07

I would not be effective in The

32:09

answer is if you don't have enough to

32:11

depend on your cities and the city

32:13

that doesn't happen. Soon.

32:15

As we get the benefits and that's

32:17

United States sending our i Don't system

32:20

State of the Israelis was on park.

32:22

Yeah. So they launched a hundred

32:24

ballistic missiles and thirty cruise missiles.

32:26

The Iron Dome. Is. That

32:28

for anything that gets through the arrow system

32:30

in the David's Sling system is that when

32:33

they are don't kicks in. Ah in that

32:35

scenario yes if they're firing a a a

32:37

ballistic missile than it would see if if.

32:40

The others would would not be able to his

32:43

the The Truth is the Iron Dome system was

32:45

developed to be a short range. Counter.

32:48

Rocket System meaning intended for not

32:50

ballistic missiles, but really for the

32:52

short range rockets fired on Gaza.

32:55

Or. Out of his bar or of

32:57

course those that were find our

32:59

troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. It's

33:01

intended as a short range rocket

33:03

system if. The. Other larger systems

33:05

at really are intended for the higher

33:07

tier right? The era was shooting above

33:10

the atmosphere and David Slaying assuring those

33:12

ballistic missiles are that are in the

33:14

middle. Or the iron dome. I can.

33:16

Shoot. Down those missiles or markets are

33:18

at the Be. Awesome! To

33:21

their target I would tell you I would

33:23

rather see the other systems use because if

33:25

is that the target is pretty close to

33:27

hitting. Yeah. What's the range on

33:29

the I don't deserve? Is it like

33:31

a ten mile twenty now fifty mile

33:33

or so solar? The range on the

33:35

I Don't. They typically talk about it

33:37

as as a seventy five kilometer arranged

33:40

Israelis are using using the kilometers there.

33:42

so it's just about forty miles. Well

33:44

yeah yeah. Little nervous when you get

33:46

neck it's pretty fast. Yes it is.

33:48

That's that's why are the arrow system

33:50

in the ballistic. Missile.

33:53

Firing Systems The David Slinks Ah is

33:55

sir similar iron Dome and it does

33:57

a similar point to point. Interception.

34:01

Are, but it's it's used for those larger

34:03

missiles and that's why I was going to

34:05

see it be effective on Saturday evenings. Oh,

34:08

but sorry to have to see it used

34:10

you Have They been using the I Don't

34:12

system. Prior. To this

34:14

with missiles been fired out of

34:16

Gaza yes they have. Ah you.

34:19

Our first time going back to

34:21

as early as two thousand and

34:23

Eleven when we first unity Iron

34:25

Dome system I unfortunately it was

34:27

not like not systems on the

34:30

past that that we developed in

34:32

and did not see combat and

34:34

the Iron Dome was used i

34:36

almost immediately after being feel it.

34:39

And I it's success rate has

34:41

continued to hold up over time.

34:44

Ensuring. Down Those rocket center fired

34:46

from Gaza. By having spent time traveling

34:49

between the Pentagon and that carry on

34:51

which is the Israeli Ministry of Defence.

34:53

During my to the Pentagon are times

34:55

when I was time in Israel and

34:57

rockets were fire. Israel

35:00

from Gaza hands. The Iron

35:02

Dome intercepted. Or

35:04

when when we and our tape and pentagon were

35:07

there. And. Had to be a good

35:09

feeling. Bad feeling is haven't been a good

35:11

feeling that knew you had that system there.

35:13

Ah that's that's true. That's true And I

35:15

I I sent it in the past. Ah

35:17

and and I mean this. That's. Working

35:21

on the iron dome. ah and the

35:23

other. Counter. Rocket

35:25

Encounter Missile defensive systems are really is

35:27

something that I'm very proud to have

35:29

been a part of in my career.

35:32

Because. You spend a

35:34

lot of time working on technologies and

35:36

working our policies in the sector events.

35:39

His office players are not that often

35:41

as you get to see things that

35:43

he worked on with your colleagues are

35:45

actually save lives. Are the ground

35:48

and saw was extremely proud the up to

35:50

work out with the team on that boy

35:52

can just imagine. How about. Some.

35:55

Of these other other countries, Does

35:57

anyone else. Any of our

35:59

ad. The series have anything it

36:02

approaches the three tiered system

36:04

defense system like you've described

36:06

with the arrow in. David.

36:09

Slaying an iron dome. Are

36:11

we up against anything of

36:13

that sophistication with any of

36:15

our adversaries. I. Would say

36:18

it. he Iron Dome is certainly a

36:20

one of the most to discuss technologies

36:22

and arguably one of the best. and

36:25

that would also include the Arrow Ha

36:27

and the David Saying system that United

36:29

States and Israel work on together. Or

36:32

there are some. Ah, systems

36:34

that some of our adversaries has

36:36

to include the Russians, but I'd

36:38

rather not go into. the type

36:40

says that they happen. I would

36:42

just say that are are likely

36:45

more effective with their technologies. Ah

36:47

day today knows that's good to

36:49

know. What? Is likely to

36:51

be. The.

36:53

Israeli response to. The

36:56

Iranian attack. The question. So.

37:00

First I would say question I've

37:02

received since Saturday many times is

37:05

do I believe. The. Israelis

37:07

should respond to retaliate to

37:09

the attack. Ads.

37:12

Or what I would say team is. Looking.

37:15

At is from Israeli security perspective. This.

37:18

Is the first time. That.

37:21

Iran has. Fired. It's.

37:24

Weapons. Of any sort.

37:26

Directly from it's territory. To

37:29

Israeli territory. There have. Been.

37:32

Exchanges over the years. Specifically.

37:35

The Iranians have use their proxies.

37:38

To. Kill Israelis. Both.

37:41

Using his bala. And out

37:43

the Islamic Jihad in Gaza. and

37:45

we know of course their support

37:47

are far from us, despite the

37:49

differences between Shias and Sunnis. And

37:52

this is the first time that Iran has actually.

37:55

Attacked Israel itself. And.

37:58

Looking. At a region like Middle East,

38:00

knowing it as I do. I.

38:03

Think that the Israelis are going.

38:06

To feel the need. To

38:08

have some response or retaliation. For.

38:12

If they don't, It

38:14

will invite another attack in the

38:16

future. Now. You ask? What will

38:18

that attack? Or response me. My.

38:21

Sense that the Israelis understand. That

38:24

we're not looking to start World War Three. We.

38:27

Are not looking to have a full

38:29

scale war with the Iranians. Certainly.

38:33

States. Works very closely

38:35

with Israel as a dinner. Saturn A. Tissue.

38:38

Down those rockets and missiles. But.

38:41

We're not looking to escalate. Into award

38:43

this time. So. What the

38:45

Israelis need to calculate? Is.

38:48

What? Type of response. Do.

38:51

They feel. Is necessary.

38:53

Would. Be effective at the message

38:56

across that Iran should never,

38:58

ever try anything like this

39:00

again shooting directly and Israeli

39:02

civilians. But.

39:05

Sort. Of

39:08

starting. A response. And.

39:10

A tit for tat. Attack

39:13

they could lead to war with

39:15

Iran. Always talk about the psychological

39:17

aspects of Wilson, the psycho social

39:19

aspects you think about personalities involved

39:21

in. When I think about. Cities.

39:24

And countries are. Think about the collective personality

39:26

and I do believe we teach people how

39:28

to treat us. I think

39:30

we teach him how to. Treat us. Individually.

39:34

With. You talking about somebody on an

39:36

elevator or cutting in front of you

39:38

in line at at a movie? Or.

39:41

A relationship you're a on and I think

39:43

the same thing is true on the. International.

39:46

Stage. These

39:49

countries are run by people and. People.

39:51

Have personalities and I think we do teach people

39:54

how to treat us. He said

39:56

for me if you. If

39:58

you have somebody lob. The

40:00

hundred and thirty missiles at you in. Hundreds.

40:03

Of armed drones and.

40:07

They're not very good at it, so. It

40:10

doesn't inflict much damage. And

40:13

so you go. Well, no, No.

40:15

No harm, no foul. You.

40:17

Just say. Well. I'm

40:20

not going to respond to that. You're

40:23

just asking them to try. Harder

40:25

you try better, there's no consequence

40:27

for it. And

40:30

I thank you. Can't reward

40:32

bad behavior and that's bad

40:34

behavior when you send missiles

40:36

at Israeli citizens. If

40:38

there's no consequence to at your rewarding bad

40:41

behavior. If that happens, you're inviting

40:43

it to happen again. So there has

40:45

to be. Some. Response to it

40:47

were like you say they've gotta say. That

40:50

was not worth it. A we're

40:52

apparently not very good at it

40:54

and be. That

40:56

was really painful. We

40:59

did that and didn't get anything

41:01

out of it. And the response.

41:04

Was. Very painful, whether it's blow

41:06

it up their oil fields or

41:08

whatever. Inflicts. The most pain.

41:11

But. I agree What

41:13

he he certainly don't want to start were

41:15

war three but we didn't start. This means.

41:18

They started this but something has to

41:20

be done and. If. You

41:23

don't? you? Just inviting? Me:

41:25

A psychologically. You're. Endorsing

41:27

it than buying it to occur again. Am I

41:29

wrong about that? I would agree with you. Ah,

41:32

the Israeli need to respond. So.

41:34

They can ensure that does. Does.

41:37

Not ever happen again. They. Have

41:40

to read. Set. Of

41:43

deterrence. Where. The Iranians.

41:46

That. This was Not Going To be. Something.

41:49

That would lead. To. A War.

41:52

However, They. Also

41:54

thought. That. Because. I

41:57

was taking place in Gaza that Israel may

41:59

not respond. And that was a

42:01

miscalculation on apps. But. Well,

42:03

I used the word miscalculation. Let

42:05

me talk further about. Similar.

42:08

Concerns about what could have. right?

42:11

Most of the wars. In

42:13

World History. Where. Started miscalculations,

42:15

right? So what we need to

42:18

be careful on and certainly what

42:20

I'd buy my. My. Colleagues

42:22

at in the Israeli Defense Forces. to

42:24

be careful of is that there is

42:26

not a miscalculation that could be. Causing.

42:31

A future war. So let's talk about

42:33

a couple scenarios. First.

42:35

I would say what the I

42:37

states it as well on the

42:39

Israelis did this ah in in

42:41

their previous experience is also is

42:43

to. Take a be. Or.

42:46

Take a breath. There

42:48

is no reason. To rush into

42:50

a response. Today. Or

42:53

tomorrow. Because. Israel knows

42:55

it has superior capabilities to be around.

42:57

It's just and the most. Basic.

42:59

Sense of military. The Iranians

43:02

use missiles and drowns because.

43:05

They're. Air Force. Has

43:07

a technology level of flying F fourteens

43:09

from the nineteen eighties. My first. Israel

43:14

clearly five the most. Sophisticated.

43:17

Technology and Aircraft and has the ability to

43:19

do different things. As does the

43:21

United States, So. Take a

43:23

beat. Take a minute. Before. Making

43:25

a decision about what to do. Second,

43:29

Any response. Should

43:31

be seen. As one. That

43:34

is trying to. Reset

43:36

that deterrence from the Iranians. But.

43:39

Should not try to invite.

43:42

An additional response or retaliation from

43:44

that. So. This is where

43:46

the term miscalculation comes into effect as

43:48

we go up this escalation ladder. And

43:51

Israel response as they need to to sit

43:53

reset the deterrents like we spoke about a

43:56

minute ago. They.

43:58

Should be. Extra.

44:02

Diligent, In ensuring. That.

44:04

The loss. Of. Life. Does

44:07

not. Exceed. Large

44:09

numbers now I wanna be careful and

44:11

saying any loss of life. Is

44:14

horrible of course. but sadly and war

44:16

people lose their lives. And

44:19

Israel. If they respond

44:21

by hitting an Iranian military base where

44:23

those missiles were fired from, Or.

44:25

They respond by. Hitting

44:28

some other Iranian military.

44:31

Target. They should

44:33

do so without trying to kill a

44:35

large number of people. Because.

44:39

Think about into scenarios. One,

44:41

they get an Iranian military target and

44:43

there's one or two guards there. Those.

44:46

One or two guards obviously. Ah, now they've

44:48

lost their lives and that is that is

44:50

a a casualty of war. But.

44:52

If for some reason there happens to

44:55

be thirty or forty people that are

44:57

there and they get killed when the

44:59

Israelis respond and the Iranians are going

45:01

to feel the need for them to

45:03

response while our miscalculations on Israel just

45:06

we know. That. Second to

45:08

the United States. Israel has. Some.

45:10

Of the best intelligence capabilities and

45:12

reconnaissance typically abilities of a nation

45:14

around the world. We.

45:16

Want to ensure that they are

45:19

using those capabilities and when they

45:21

retaliate, And when they respond that

45:23

they do so in a way. That

45:25

they are not escalating. this. Was.

45:28

A potential for miscalculation. So

45:31

responses necessary. but why would

45:33

call his intelligence response protecting

45:35

against miscalculation run? From.

45:37

Where you see it? The.

45:40

Iranians had to think three or

45:42

four. Place. Ahead in

45:44

nurse and know whatever they

45:47

did. However, successful

45:49

had to be. it was.

45:51

They had to predict. That. Israel

45:55

is going to respond. They.

45:57

Can't think we're gonna send over. Grid

46:00

and thirty missiles and several hundred. Drones.

46:04

Against. Israeli civilians and whatever

46:06

the success rate is, they're

46:08

just gonna go well. Wish.

46:11

He hadn't done that. They're. Going know Israel's

46:13

going to respond. What do you think they predict

46:15

Israel is going to do? So.

46:17

I try to stay out of the

46:20

business as predicting what's and at the

46:22

mind of the Ayatollah. You

46:24

know in international relations that I

46:26

spent years studying. He talked about

46:29

rational actors and irrational actors. I

46:32

do think that the Ayatollah is

46:34

rational. However, I

46:36

think. He. Is willing

46:39

to use. Rational.

46:42

A scuse me. Irrational needs

46:44

to get to rational as. And.

46:48

What I mean by that is. Well.

46:50

He's not completely irrational, something that would

46:52

concern us even further and we can

46:55

talk about that. Ah in

46:57

it. The

46:59

future conversation. I. Do believe

47:01

that the Iranians understood. That.

47:04

The Israelis would retaliate. And

47:07

I will say to you that well

47:09

they knew the Iranians, new, the capabilities,

47:12

Of the Israeli and Iraq and Anna

47:14

missile system, I think they thought a

47:16

lot more of their hundred and thirty

47:18

missiles are gone hit their targets. That

47:20

actually did. So. Let's

47:22

play that scenario out. Obviously would have

47:24

been horrible for Israel. Should.

47:26

That taken place. But. Even

47:30

if twenty percent. Of.

47:32

Those hundred and thirty missiles hit. You.

47:34

Now have Twenty Six missiles kidding Israeli

47:36

targets and you know that people would

47:38

have been killed. And to your question

47:40

earlier Dr. Phil I had to know

47:42

their the response in retaliation for Twenty

47:45

Six missiles. Kings. Or else. And

47:48

so now the question becomes. What?

47:50

Can Israel due to have an

47:52

intelligence response suit me? Intelligent response.

47:56

That makes years they they make sure

47:58

they set up the deterrents. Again,

48:01

Without going too far. With.

48:03

A chance, a miscalculation, or and

48:06

continue escalation. Is it reasonable

48:08

to. Consider going at.

48:11

Some of their. Industrial.

48:14

Complex in terms of hitting an oilfield

48:16

or something like that. to. Cripple

48:18

their economy in some way. I'm going

48:20

leaves a specific targets to the Israelis

48:23

to decide how they would like to

48:25

do a lot by. Think if I

48:27

gave you my perspective again I'm not

48:29

currently in the United States government serving

48:32

that upper new depends on my ass

48:34

from looking at sector previously serving at

48:36

that. for a defensive the Pentagon it

48:38

would be are build a hit. Military.

48:41

Targets Specifically those

48:44

military targets that.

48:47

Part. In. Firing on hundred and

48:49

three. Nipples and Israel.

48:52

And therefore, if. There are

48:55

still people that are there and there are casualties

48:57

are based on them serving as part of. Their

49:00

military service for their nose or casualties

49:02

of war. Ah, I'm not

49:04

sure that I would. I would be

49:06

personally advocating for. Shooting.

49:09

It adds. Fair. Industrial

49:12

base or oil fields because I think

49:14

there is as we would say the

49:16

Pentagon, a target rich environment. In Iran

49:18

are plenty of military targets to hit.

49:20

Know. This true. Are they

49:22

likely. As they have done in

49:25

Gaza. Told. People

49:27

were going to hear hear. You need to get out of there.

49:30

Are they likely to try and avoid? Loss.

49:33

Of Life by. So. We

49:35

know where these came from. And.

49:38

Where. Get raided. Hit that target. I

49:41

would say that the Israelis have gone. To

49:44

extraordinary lengths. To

49:46

avoid. Civilian

49:49

casualties when they are hitting

49:51

targets. And you mentioned a

49:53

couple different wastes in Gaza

49:56

that includes ah. Dropping.

49:58

Leaflets. I. Two

50:00

neighborhoods as well as using

50:02

something that they call the

50:05

knock. Wood. Shudder to which

50:07

a non explosive. Ordnance.

50:10

That can be dropped on the top of a building.

50:13

And when it falls like any and will on

50:15

on top of the dawning it makes a loud

50:17

noise. And it is

50:19

at a warning that next.

50:22

Round. Will be. Not just. Allowed

50:25

advil on an actual explosive

50:27

device. So there are some

50:29

things that they have done

50:31

to take extraordinary means to

50:33

avoid civilian casualties. I will

50:35

tell you that my concern

50:37

as it relates to Iran

50:39

is that an. Attacking

50:42

a country as far away as

50:44

Iranians from Israel is a very

50:46

difficult military answer. L

50:48

we sometimes take for granted and United

50:50

States and we can fight a war

50:53

anywhere around the world. And that's mainly

50:55

due to our aircraft carriers and are

50:57

Navy's ability to go anywhere and to

50:59

bring a war machine wherever it needs

51:01

to go. Ah you out

51:03

at Israel. Is it a smaller nation? It

51:05

was a very. Very

51:08

much not yours. Acts.

51:16

Planning a great deal of effort and. Direct.

51:19

Answer to your question is I'm not sure

51:21

they why telegraph that because are they want

51:23

to make sure that their success. Ill

51:25

well I hope. And I'm

51:27

curious is. Goes. We conclude

51:30

the i can get your thought on this.

51:32

They have. Done

51:35

a service in getting. I

51:38

think a slip. For.

51:41

His role in. Maybe.

51:45

Flipping. The script back. And.

51:47

Getting some of those that were. Gonna.

51:50

Moving out of the Is Roka I.

51:53

Am leaning on them to.

51:56

Do. A cease fire to back

51:58

off. Of. Hamas. And

52:01

I'm not really standing strong with

52:03

with his role in it seems

52:05

like. They. Certainly.

52:08

Solidified some of the allies behind.

52:12

Israel. Again, do you think that

52:14

a last while I would say

52:16

that's ah. Iran

52:18

attacking Israel was a mistake. It

52:21

was a mistake because they have. Now.

52:25

Shown that they are willing to step

52:27

out from behind the curtain. Where.

52:30

They've been hiding behind those proxies.

52:33

And. Firing from on Gaza and

52:35

Yemen. And. Now.

52:38

The. World knows. Iran for

52:40

who it is, and the Israeli see

52:42

that the Iranians are willing to actually

52:44

attack their own territory. And.

52:47

The Israelis will now be able to

52:49

respond to reestablish that turrets. But.

52:52

They have also as you just stated,

52:54

Brought. The. World to

52:57

support Israel. Once.

52:59

Again, In. The face of the

53:01

wrong. And I

53:03

think the Israelis. Understand that

53:05

and the Iranians miss that.

53:08

Where. They saw some and in Europe. As

53:11

well as some ah, Parts.

53:13

Of the United States. Not. Supporting

53:15

Israel and was taking place. In

53:18

Gaza. And. Now they have. Reversed.

53:21

That. By. Bringing both

53:23

the Europeans and others in the

53:25

region. To. Stand Up

53:27

against Iran Alongside Israel. they have

53:30

done more to help Israel game.

53:32

The. Diplomatic support. That.

53:34

May have been. Somewhat. Decreasing.

53:37

Than they ever plan for. And that was

53:39

their true failure and their attack on his

53:41

you're on Saturday or as you say, miscalculation

53:43

or would love. To have

53:46

been a fly on the wall with them.

53:48

The. Military. Commanders

53:51

in the Ayatollah of the next

53:53

morning for the debrief. To.

53:56

Say well here's here's

53:58

here's how the. The wall

54:00

came down. We. Did all those who

54:02

did all that and. We.

54:05

Did it a girl was some shrapnel but

54:07

she seems like she's gonna be okay. Other

54:10

than that, we've pissed off everybody.

54:13

And they've linebacker with Israel. Other

54:16

than that, the don't seem like

54:18

we've achieved much of. A

54:20

A Love to been a fly on that

54:22

wall. While you know as as we

54:24

learned it in. The. Us

54:27

military power defense that

54:29

there's not a lot

54:31

of honesty and sales.

54:33

Military. Operations and what I mean

54:35

by that is if we look back

54:38

at Rbc Army interact his thoughts mean

54:40

used to say that they were winning

54:42

the war against United States and if

54:44

you remember those videos behind him they

54:47

were Us tanks are rocket rolling into

54:49

the tower behind it by he was

54:51

hang on television say that they were

54:53

way I did see a report that

54:55

the Iranian National Press said they killed

54:58

thirty Mossad agents in Southern Israel and

55:00

an Airforce base and my older response

55:02

to that is I. Have no

55:04

knowledge of which based they're talking

55:06

about. but why was thirty My

55:09

side? Asians? Which is there a

55:11

spy agency is equivalent to the

55:13

Cia? Be an airforce base in

55:15

Southern Israel and they wouldn't be.

55:17

And also, Israel is a nation

55:20

that would report if there were

55:22

thirty casualties to their agents. So

55:24

again, not a lot of truthfulness

55:26

and military a failure spokespeople. Yeah,

55:29

Well. Maybe

55:31

they're selling that. Of

55:34

so sets of possibility. Ah, so

55:36

a have to sell something to their

55:38

public because they're they're attack on on

55:40

Saturday was it was really a failure?

55:43

Are both in the tactical military a

55:45

sense as well as in the strategic

55:47

political sense? As he just said,

55:49

well, There's less lot as

55:51

a buyer clock on the wall that

55:54

were out of time. This has been

55:56

absolutely and freegan am. I can't thank

55:58

you for taking the time. The demystify

56:00

so much of this before us

56:02

and give us some insight into

56:04

how this works, how it went

56:06

down. Thank you very much for

56:09

having me and I appreciate the

56:11

questions. I enjoyed the conversation and

56:13

are happy to continue. It is

56:15

at any time in the city.

56:17

Well, I certainly will take you

56:19

up on that. In your wisdom,

56:21

an Inside on the Us is

56:23

a rare opportunity for me and.

56:26

My listeners on fill in the blanks. I

56:28

look forward to talking to your hand and

56:31

thank you for the time that you've shared

56:33

with us. I really appreciate Thank you Dad

56:35

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