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again. We've got another jam packed show for

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you today. We've got some royal family

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news. Doctor Simon White is stopping by

0:47

to talk about her new Disney show. And

0:49

we have to get into Madonna taking on

0:51

her haters face

0:52

first. Like I said, jam packed

0:54

out, so let's jump right in. Coming

0:59

to the end of the third quarter. LeBron

1:01

James is shot at history.

1:08

That right there was the sound of LeBron James

1:11

making history right here in LA.

1:13

Last night, the four time NBA champion

1:16

passed Lakers legend, Kareem Abdul

1:18

Jalbar, on the all time scoring list.

1:20

Kareem tallied up thirty eight thousand three

1:22

hundred and eighty seven points in his career

1:25

and held the record for most career points

1:27

since he called it quits on the court thirty

1:29

nine years ago. Lebron sank

1:31

their record breaking basket with a few

1:33

seconds remaining in the third quarter, and

1:35

the game came to a ten minute halt to

1:37

celebrate and acknowledge King James'

1:40

conquest. James' mother,

1:42

wife, and two sons watch from courtside

1:44

seats Celebrities like JZ and Denzel

1:46

Washington were in the house to witness the

1:48

history making night, and so was the man

1:50

Lebron has number thirty

1:53

three. Mister Skyhook himself,

1:55

Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Before the

1:57

game resumes, LeBron thanked his family and

1:59

friends and paid homage to passing the

2:01

NBA Hall of Famer, telling the crowd quote,

2:04

to be able to be in the presence of such a legend

2:06

and great as Careem, it's very humbling.

2:09

Please give a standing ovation to the captain.

2:12

Please. It's been an up and down

2:14

year for the Lakers with more downs and ups

2:16

even with the high scoring effort on

2:18

the part of LeBron and the Lakers the night

2:20

was Soured as the Oklahoma City founder

2:23

managed to pull out a one:thirty three:thirty

2:25

victory. Still, what an incredible

2:27

feat and now every basket LeBron makes

2:30

from here on out will be history. And

2:33

now it's time to turn our attention from

2:35

one legend to another as Madonna is

2:37

speaking out against those who criticized her appearance

2:39

at the Grammys. Here's

2:44

what I've learned after four decades in music.

2:47

If they call you shocking, scandalous, problematic,

2:49

provocative, or dangerous, you are definitely

2:52

onto something. Those are the

2:54

words of the iconic madonna. Heard

2:56

at the Grammy's on Sunday night as

2:58

she introduced a performance by Sam Smith

3:01

and Kim Petress, powerful as

3:03

they were They unfortunately were not

3:05

the focus of the moment, and madonna

3:07

has even more to say about that. Here

3:09

to join me to talk about all of this, is People's

3:11

Style and Beauty Director, Andrea Lavinthal.

3:14

Andrea, so fun to have you on as always.

3:16

Okay. Well, I do wanna talk about

3:18

Madonna. But Jynine, I really

3:20

need to talk about another icon,

3:24

Diva legend, if you

3:26

will, who I spotted on the red carpet

3:28

-- Oh, got the brownies. --

3:31

and I'm just gonna need the exclusive on

3:33

her look. Are you familiar with a Jenny

3:36

and Rubencien too? You

3:38

looked so beautiful. Oh,

3:41

yeah. Thank you. That shade

3:43

of blue. The hair and makeup

3:45

was on point, but let's talk about your diamonds

3:48

because I'm at home in my

3:50

sweatpants. Eating my dinner

3:52

out of the plastic container, and I

3:54

get a press release announcing

3:58

that Janine is wearing David Yerman

4:01

diamonds to the Grammy's. I don't think I've

4:03

ever worn, like, actual diamonds on the red carpet.

4:05

So it was a first for me, but it was

4:07

so exciting. And that's why

4:09

I chose the dress that I chose just because I

4:11

whatever I had

4:12

on, I wanted it to highlight all

4:15

of that bedazzlement, bed jewelment,

4:17

actual diamondment that was going on

4:19

on my neck. Wow.

4:22

It was exciting. You know, I

4:24

can't help but play fashion

4:26

couch critics. So I do have one

4:29

note. It's tiny. But I

4:31

want you to think about it for your next

4:33

carpet. There was one accessory that I

4:35

really wanted you to have. Okay.

4:37

Me. I just felt like where

4:39

was

4:40

I? Why was I not standing next to

4:42

you? Okay. Moving on

4:44

to Madonna. Moving on to Madonna.

4:46

Well, you've covered all the looks

4:48

for the Grammy's. Can you first walk

4:50

us through Madonna's look and any inspiration

4:53

behind it or insight you may have into

4:55

it? Like describe it for everyone if they forgot? Well,

4:58

I mean, I thought that it was

5:00

very on brand for madonna.

5:02

Right? At first glance, she might be like, well,

5:04

she's very covered up, and she looks kinda school

5:07

marmish. No. No. No. No. She had

5:09

a lot of, like, very scandalous

5:11

little details in her look. That

5:13

you had to see. But for starters,

5:16

she had, like, a salad shaped diamond

5:18

broach. So there was that. And

5:20

then she had these incredible black

5:22

plaid form heels. And then

5:24

she had a close-up shot of a a handbag

5:27

that we didn't see on stage, and it was

5:29

important with the word fudge,

5:32

but not in black sparkles. And

5:34

then she had a bunch of other really, like,

5:36

madonna ass things, including a riding crop,

5:38

and laced gloves and pigtails

5:41

and and her eyebrows were

5:42

blonde. So a very random description

5:45

if you will, but all of those things felt

5:47

very madonna to me. Well,

5:49

I will say that people picked

5:51

up on not just what she was wearing, but

5:54

how she looked. And that's and that's what

5:56

she is weighing in on. So the universe

5:59

that is social media has since

6:01

been taking their shots at

6:03

Madonna and her face. It is

6:05

clear to me that there has been some

6:08

work done, but she should be able to do whatever

6:10

she wants to to her body. Right? The focus

6:12

on what she looks like physically took

6:14

over the moment. She was trying to present

6:16

and the fuss that was made

6:18

over her face did not sit well

6:20

with

6:20

her. Right? It's incredible that

6:23

you can be wearing a phallic shaped

6:26

diamond broach and people are talking

6:28

about your face. But yes,

6:30

we in our society have a

6:32

very narrow view of what aging

6:34

should look like. And it's interesting if

6:36

someone ages naturally, we

6:39

gas and, like, clutch our pearls that they're

6:41

going gray and have wrinkles, especially in

6:43

Hollywood, like, how dare they look

6:45

old? But if they

6:47

choose to do whatever to

6:49

their appearance to look the way they wanna

6:51

look at their age, we also are

6:54

outrage. You know, there really is

6:56

no option for a

6:58

female in Hollywood to get older

7:01

other than to put, like, mask over

7:03

her face and a hat on. Otherwise,

7:05

we're like, we can't handle it. I think when

7:08

anyone alters their appearance

7:10

dramatically and we haven't seen it.

7:12

It's there's always gonna be a reaction, but

7:14

I don't think it's really,

7:16

like, anyone's call of how

7:19

she should choose to

7:20

age. think it's just like an easy

7:22

target. Right? Well, she said in her

7:24

statement, I had wanted to give the

7:26

last award, which was album of the year, but

7:29

I thought it was more important that I present the

7:31

first trans woman performing at the Grammy's,

7:33

history making moment And on top of that,

7:35

she won a Grammy instead of focusing

7:37

on what I said in my speech, which was about

7:39

giving thanks for the fearlessness of

7:41

artists like Sam and Kim, many

7:44

people chose to only talk about close-up

7:46

photos of me taken with a long lens

7:48

camera by a press photographer that

7:50

would distort anyone's face. Once

7:52

again, I am caught in the glare of

7:55

and misogyny, that permeates the world we

7:57

live in, a world that refuses to celebrate

7:59

women past the age

8:01

of forty five. In the words of

8:03

Beyonce, she ended this with, you

8:05

won't break my soul. Well, there you

8:07

have it. I mean, I wish I could

8:09

do like a stands in clap

8:11

moment from a movie because that's a

8:14

powerful statement.

8:16

She's basically like, can we

8:18

please focus on what's important? If it goes

8:20

back to what I tell my children, if you don't have

8:22

anything nice to say, don't say it at all. It makes me

8:24

petrified to get older because I

8:27

plan to enjoy the talents

8:30

of a plastic surgeon in my

8:31

future. And I really don't wanna

8:33

hear it from anyone. You know?

8:36

I love that. Well, this summer,

8:38

she is on the road with her celebration tour

8:40

that is going to spend four decades of music,

8:43

and Madonna is known for stage and performance

8:45

looks that are iconic. Do you think this conversation

8:47

will push her style and fashion

8:50

on this tour even

8:51

further. So it's interesting. I don't think she

8:53

wants people talking about her face and

8:55

plastic surgery, but she does like

8:57

people to talk, she This is what she

8:59

does. You said she pushes the boundaries. So, yes,

9:02

I think we can expect some

9:04

really shocking moments

9:06

from her. I mean, for her age alone

9:08

people are going to be, like,

9:11

very scandalized if she shows

9:14

something more than a wrist or,

9:16

you know, and I count on her

9:18

to do that. Make those people up in

9:20

arms,

9:21

madonna, wear a leotard.

9:24

Show a butt cheek. I'm here for it. Yeah.

9:26

Well, Andrea, thank you so

9:28

much for being here. It is always so fun to

9:31

spend time with

9:31

you. And remember, guys, you can read more

9:33

about this story on people dot com.

9:36

Thanks, Andrea. Thank you.

9:41

Coming up. We're sitting down with one of the best

9:43

up and coming talents in Hollywood right now.

9:45

Miss Diamond White, she stops by to

9:47

talk about what it's like being a Marvel superhero

9:50

and lending her voice to the animated series

9:52

Moon Girl and Devil Dynasty. But

9:54

first, with just three months until the

9:56

coronation of King Charles, the royal family

9:58

is still grappling with the fallout from Prince Harry's

10:00

Hell, all memoir, spare. Join us

10:03

on the other side of the break, where our royals

10:05

expert, Aaron Hill, will take us into the drama

10:07

bubbling up behind the Palace

10:08

walls. So stay right there. We'll be right

10:11

back.

10:17

It's Oscar season. The movies

10:19

have been watched. The critics have critique,

10:21

and the nominees have been an Joining

10:24

me Jared Hall, Executive Editor at

10:26

Entertainment Weekly, and other opinionated

10:29

movie loving EW staffers as

10:31

we discuss who we will and

10:33

should win a covenant statuette.

10:36

Plus, the year's most buzzed about nominees

10:38

sit down with us to tell all about

10:40

their performances. Catch up with this

10:43

award season at e w dot

10:45

comawardest and follow

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the ORDIST wherever you listen to podcasts

10:50

or new episodes every Monday.

11:02

We are back and it's time to talk about people's

11:04

latest cover story. As you know,

11:06

a little book called Spare came out a month

11:08

ago and it's been causing all sorts

11:10

of buzz. But what people really want

11:12

to know is how is the royal family reacting

11:15

to Prince Harry's bombshell memoir with

11:17

King Charles' coronation three months

11:19

away only How does this affect

11:22

things? I mean, let's get into all of that and more.

11:24

Joining me now to dive deep into this

11:26

is People's Senior Editor, Aaron Hill. Hey,

11:28

Aaron. Welcome back to the show. As

11:31

you know, spare had some pretty jaw

11:33

dropping allegations. Prince Harry

11:35

said that Prince William physically attacked him

11:37

when they were fighting about Meghan Markle

11:40

he accused his stepmother, queen Camilla,

11:42

of throwing him and his brother under the

11:44

bus to get good press that the family

11:46

motto is, quote, never complained. Never

11:49

explain at least to the public,

11:51

but what's really going on behind the

11:53

scenes? How are they feeling about all

11:55

of this? Yeah. Exactly. You know, that the

11:57

decision to remain silent

11:59

in public is really just so they

12:01

don't wanna fan the flames, the rift, and

12:03

the disputes, and spoke to a royal horse

12:06

on it who said that they know that anything

12:08

they say is just gonna prolong everything

12:10

and they want it to calm down as soon

12:12

as possible. And the longer this

12:14

goes on, the less hope there is for

12:16

reconciliation. But behind the

12:18

scenes, we are hearing that William is the one who

12:20

is most upset and needs time to calm

12:22

down? Well, so despite all this

12:25

family drama, we're hearing that discussions

12:27

are actually taking place. About a reconciliation

12:30

between Prince Harry and Meghan Markle and Prince

12:32

William and Kate Middleton. So tell us more

12:34

about

12:34

this. Yeah. We are hearing that absolutely

12:37

behind the scenes. They're trying to work out how best

12:39

to go about this, how to have some

12:41

conversations to happen before the

12:43

coronation, but a a source close of this

12:45

essay says, say that there has been no

12:48

movement yet towards reconciliation, but

12:50

also that Harry's position on the matter

12:52

hasn't changed. He had said during

12:54

when he was doing press for spare that

12:57

the ball is in his family's court and he's open,

12:59

but he wants to have those discussions. And

13:01

we know that Charles would love nothing more

13:04

than have his son be there. He would like to have

13:06

Harry back in the family according to his source.

13:08

And he doesn't want this to be part of his reign,

13:10

how he's left, his family, destroyed it.

13:13

And I think it's some circles that's very best taken

13:15

her four. Is it true? You know, it

13:17

isn't as simple as just I'm sorry.

13:19

I'm sorry. There's just been more way

13:21

more serious things going on between these family

13:24

members, and it's not as simple as one conversation

13:26

is gonna solve it. It may be that the best they can

13:28

hope for is just the truth before the coronation

13:31

put them to

13:31

come, put everything aside, and then celebrate

13:33

them on key. Well, guys, you can read

13:35

more about the royals on people dot

13:37

com and pick up a copy of the latest issue

13:40

on newsstand everywhere on Friday, Aaron. It's

13:42

always so great to see you. Thanks stop and bye. Thank

13:44

you.

13:48

If animated stories are your sweet

13:50

spot, then you are in for real treat.

13:52

I am the smartest thirteen year old.

13:54

And now I have a dinosaur with

13:57

my

13:57

brain. You're proud we can be super

14:00

heroes. That was the voice of my

14:02

next guest who has over a dozen

14:04

animated roles under her belt. And

14:06

in February, you can catch the

14:08

multi talented Diamond White

14:10

in Marvel's moon girl and devil dinosaur

14:13

with guest voice appearances by the incomparable

14:15

Alfie Woodard and comedians to Sheers

14:18

and Mehta. I saw the trailer

14:20

and it's a fun energetic ride

14:22

for the entire family. And, well,

14:24

I am excited because Diamond White is here

14:26

with me now to discuss what it was

14:28

like to fulfill many of our childhood dreams

14:31

playing a superhero. Hey, Diamond. Welcome

14:33

to the podcast. Hi. How are you?

14:36

I'm good. I'm good. So in the show you

14:38

play thirteen year old, Lonella Lafayette,

14:40

a k moon girl, and she's on mission

14:42

to save the

14:43

world. So what does it feel like to be

14:45

fully in the Marvel family now?

14:48

It's honestly incredible. I was having

14:50

a conversation with my brother the other day and

14:52

he was, like, Diamond, you know this is,

14:54

like, really big. And I was, like,

14:56

I don't know. Like, I'm scared

14:59

and but

15:01

I'm just excited to finally

15:04

see a superhero that has

15:06

my skin tone and looks like

15:08

me. I love that and you're making

15:10

history with this. You are Marvel's

15:13

first ever black teen

15:15

animated superhero. Right? Yeah.

15:18

Teenage Girl superhero, the first.

15:20

Which is insane. I love

15:22

it. So what were some of the personal traits

15:25

that you pulled upon to

15:27

channel into Moon

15:28

Girl? That was homeschooled my whole life.

15:30

So I felt very

15:33

connected to her in the sense that she's

15:35

awkward around other people. That's

15:37

something that I experience. With

15:40

adults, I'm cool to, like, meet

15:42

myself. But with people my age, I'm, like,

15:45

I don't necessarily wanna sleep over at your

15:47

house because I'm scared. I don't know what to say.

15:49

There's actually an episode about that. So

15:51

connected to her on all of her,

15:53

like, into securities about, like, growing

15:55

up and

15:55

stuff. I love it. Well,

15:58

you're an actress who's been in movies,

16:00

soap operas, of course, animated projects,

16:02

and even video games. So so do you

16:05

prefer to be in, like, a

16:07

recording studio? Just, like, letting your

16:09

voice do the work? Or on set with the lights

16:11

and cameras and all of that. If I had to

16:13

pick

16:13

one, I would definitely pick the

16:16

animated side of things. I

16:18

can go in in my pajamas. I

16:20

don't have to have makeup. I

16:22

can just be a thirteen year old

16:25

kid. Screaming and running

16:27

around. And I honestly prefer that rather

16:29

than having to spend, like, two to three hours in

16:31

hair and makeup every

16:32

day. know what you mean.

16:35

Well, Moon Girl and Devil Dynasty is

16:38

also produced by the legendary actor,

16:40

Lawrence Fishburne, who plays

16:42

The Beyonder in the series. So did

16:44

you get chance to meet and work with

16:46

him? I mean, he's an icon in Hollywood?

16:48

We actually did d twenty three

16:50

together, and I was scared

16:52

to meet Lawrence. Because

16:55

I know how big of a star

16:58

he is, and I was a little bit nervous.

17:01

But he's so goofy and

17:03

so fun. And,

17:05

like, we have the best times together.

17:07

Nice. What is, like,

17:10

just a scene, maybe, like, a

17:12

a through line that you want people to

17:14

be watching for with Moon Girl.

17:16

What is her big hope? Her big

17:18

hope is to protect the LES.

17:20

She will do anything against

17:23

these villains that are trying

17:25

to mess with the LES. The show is really

17:27

based on community and family.

17:30

She runs the roller rink with her

17:32

family. So you know,

17:34

she wants to keep the roller rink alive

17:37

and make sure the LES is

17:39

safe, so that's like one of her

17:41

main

17:42

big points. I love the

17:44

LAS. For those who don't know the lower east

17:46

side of New York City, my mother-in-law

17:48

is from the LAS or the lower

17:51

as she calls it. So

17:53

that's so great. And then music

17:55

as well is big part of this show. So

17:58

you're a musician as well. How much does

18:00

music play into? Were you able to contribute in

18:02

any

18:02

way? Oh, yeah. I sing

18:05

I sing the theme song. And

18:07

there's a bunch of other songs in the show

18:09

that we

18:10

sing. It's a very musical show.

18:12

Well, before I lose you, as we make our

18:14

way through, twenty twenty me as

18:16

people are calling it. What are you looking

18:19

forward to in this

18:20

year? Well, I'm looking forward to February

18:23

tenth because that's when Moonborough comes out.

18:25

But I'm also looking forward to getting

18:27

myself to be able to do squats because

18:30

that's something that I have not

18:32

been able to get myself to do. And

18:34

also this year simply because of

18:37

Moon Girl, I wanna learn how to roller skate.

18:39

I can't play, I can't do like this and not

18:41

learn how to roller skate.

18:43

I love it. Well, Diamond, thank you so much

18:45

for coming on. And you guys don't

18:47

forget Marvel's Moon Girl and Devil Dina

18:50

Store Premier's February tenth

18:52

on Disney Channel, and you can

18:54

stream the first six episodes, February

18:56

fifteenth on Disney Plus. Thanks

18:58

so much, Diamond. Thank you. Well,

19:10

the last story I want to leave you with is

19:12

one that has two happy endings.

19:14

Diana Gordon has been without a car

19:16

for nearly a year since hers broke down

19:18

last February. This left the Michigan

19:20

resident with no choice but to walk

19:22

nearly three miles to and from work,

19:25

five days a week. As Gordon

19:27

was trekking home just a few weeks ago

19:29

on January twenty first, she spotted something

19:31

peculiar on her route. She'd

19:33

stopped at a gas station for a snack and

19:35

spotted plastic bag on the ground.

19:38

Filled with what she described as a large

19:40

sum of money. She wasn't kidding.

19:42

The grandmother of two found nearly fifteen

19:44

thousand dollars in cash and didn't

19:47

hesitate on what to do next and remember

19:49

thinking, this doesn't belong to me,

19:51

I need to call a police officer. When

19:53

officers arrived, it didn't take too much detective

19:55

work to track down the owners. The officers

19:57

found cars addressed to a couple whose wedding

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ceremony had occurred earlier that day.

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White Lake Township Police Chief Dan

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Keller told the Washington Post that the

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police department was able to track down the

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couple and give the money back to them.

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I mean, here's his grandmother walking

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six miles round trip to work every

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day in the Midwest cold,

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who clearly could have used the catch, calling

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the authorities and doing the right thing just

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wow. But as she told the post,

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all I did was return something that didn't belong

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to me. I can only imagine how relieved

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the newlyweds must have been. And like

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I mentioned earlier, this story has two happy

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endings. Stacey Connell, whose husband

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was one of the responding police officers, set

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up a go fund me to raise money for Gordon

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to hopefully buy her a new car. As

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of yesterday afternoon, the fundraiser

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has reached sixty six thousand

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dollars. And last week, Diana Gordon

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received a brand new set of wheels,

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a Jeep Compass from a local car

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dealership. She told a local ABC

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affiliate I am just floored and

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added, I am having a hard time keeping it

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in. I am just so excited. Gordon

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also said that she plans to pay it forward

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and offer rides to her co workers who may

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need them. I mean, if a grandma with

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the heart of gold being rewarded for a good

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deed isn't something to make you smile

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on a Wednesday, then I I don't know

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what will. And that is our show for

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today. Thank you all for letting me be a part

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of your

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day. I will talk to you again tomorrow, right

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here on people every day.