Shireen Jaffer is the co-founder of Edvo, an edtech company empowering people with the tools to think for themselves and forge their own stories. But two minutes into this chat, we thought she could give Oprah a run for her money.

In this uplifting and (damn) motivating interview, Shireen gets real about what actually matters in the real world as opposed to what school and society tells us. She shares her tactics on how to gain clarity on what we want and why committing to ourselves is hard but not impossible.

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• Listen to The Build Up by Alibaba AUS NZ on Apple Podcasts: http://apple.co/2Zhpa29 -
• Listen to The Build Up by Alibaba AUS NZ on Spotify: http://spoti.fi/37wQFJR -
• Subscribe to Shireen's newsletter 'The Edvolution': https://shireen.substack.com -
• Learn more about Edvo: https://www.edvo.com -
• Follow The Peers Project on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thepeersproject/ -

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