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Welcome to the PZ Perspective Podcast. This is episode 770.

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It's being recorded on April 24, 2024.

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I'm Sebastian Peake. I'm

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Jeremy Holstrom. I'm

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Josh Walworth. I'm Brett

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Franz-Rembert. And I'm

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Kent Burgess. I'm just

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gonna admit it right now, episode 770. It's just episode

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680 over again. It's got the

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same number of CUDA cores, same memory

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interface. It's all the same. It's just

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a rebrand. But

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we should pull up. UTX-7

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Soundy was still a slightly

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better product. How? How

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was it better? Was it slightly higher clocked? It

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was slightly higher clocked. And 680,

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I believe, had a few

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things disabled. What? But

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the 770 did not. I'm

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calling BS on that. Wait,

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wasn't the 770 also 4 gig,

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not 2 gig? I can't remember.

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No. 770 was a rebranded 680. It's 1,536 CUDA

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cores. It has 2 gigabytes

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of 7 gigabit per second GDDR5, 224.3

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gigabits per... Okay, well, we'll

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then click it over to the

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680 and let's see

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the... Do

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you have all those memorized now? 1536. Oh,

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less memory bandwidth. You're right, Josh is correct, because

1:34

they bumped the memory speed from 6 to 7

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gigabit. I was wrong and

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Josh is right. Well, it's partially wrong,

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but you were partially right. It

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was not much of a jump from a 680 to

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a 770. How about that? You're

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right, and the price was better, so I'm wrong. Yeah.

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I just want everybody watching the live stream to know

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that I'm wrong, but I will cut all this out

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so I look better in the final version. You

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can't make me look better. Oh. You

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there to make it look like them,

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but it wasn't really them, ender's game. Ender's

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about very much anymore, but... No. No.

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Rosenstrahl card. By the

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way, the book you can't read, you have to listen

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to the podcast, or better yet, watch the video, because

3:12

Josh has not yet written his burger

3:15

memoir, but we can still

3:17

talk about it every week. It's

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a coffee table book. It's time for a

3:22

beer with Josh. What is that

3:24

burger guy, the historian? He

3:28

just opened a restaurant in George

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Motz? Motz? Okay. Mutz?

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Motz? I can't remember.

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Anyway, you'll look him

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up on YouTube, and he

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has fantastic burger recipes that he goes

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through, and he opened up a restaurant

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in New York, and

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he actually goes there for a couple

3:50

hours a day, and then goes

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and cooks up burgers during lunchtime,

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and apparently they're outstanding.

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So yeah. Go

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go look up the burger historian

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But today was the the classic it

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was classic popper one of the one

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of the burgers that put born on

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the map and There

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it is brioche bun double

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locally sourced beef patties

4:20

half pound of meat Fried

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jalapenos cream

4:26

cheese and A

4:29

chipotle raspberry sauce

4:31

drizzled on top Again

4:35

it was it was a fantastic burger

4:37

super tasty and You

4:39

know it seemed a little better today than than

4:41

I've had it in a while. I mean the

4:44

jalapenos weren't popping As

4:46

much as I'd like them to but you

4:48

know was still really good Fries

4:50

were a little over What's

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that I Said it was

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the extra flavor of the nepotism Exactly

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my son works at born on the

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bar now as a prep cook so

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everything he touches I then buy which

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Causes problems with a digestively. I

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don't know but anyway I need

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to work on his His

5:15

hygiene, but yeah, we'll go from there and

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that was a great burger today It's

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time for the PC per news desk

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and story number one the ongoing saga

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of Mitigation

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strategies what could be more exciting

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with Intel 13th and 14th Gen core i9 processors

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and Falcon Northwest Has

5:38

been on Twitter posting screenshots of

5:40

different settings that they recommend Using

5:43

to try to keep your system stable with one

5:45

of these processors and this

5:47

actually led to Asus a

5:49

day or two later officially releasing

5:52

a new BIOS update with what

5:54

they call Intel baseline

5:56

profile option things

5:59

are actually getting serious What You're actually being

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encouraged to use. The. Settings:

6:03

They're forced the processor to

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run a spec. Three. Hundred

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and twenty plus watt. Norm

6:10

that people have apparently got new suits that

6:12

stable. It's not a good idea. It was

6:14

okay with Twelve June. that's the one that

6:16

really hasn't seemed to be a problem yet.

6:18

But. Thirteenth and fourteenth Jen which have

6:21

just bigger and bigger over clocked

6:23

at the same architecture. Is.

6:25

Not a good idea to run. With.

6:27

A Four Thousand and Ninety Six

6:29

Watts default Parliament and is other

6:31

settings to endure. To be careful

6:33

though, because that he says up

6:35

day according Falcon Northwest they say

6:37

that it will cripple performance unnecessarily

6:39

for many case he views should

6:41

film stability though. but. Didn't.

6:43

Try to follow along and look at

6:45

some of these screenshots are talking about.

6:47

Some of the recommended settings will result

6:50

in higher. Voltages,

6:52

A Pc World was doing

6:54

some testing a few weeks

6:56

ago and date tried the

6:58

Intel Cel safe setting on

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the S word add it

7:02

jacked up the voltages to

7:05

to. Ah, ridiculous

7:07

amounts and discovered that that was

7:09

not the best solution on their

7:11

particular motherboard. and Chef. They.

7:13

Have this whole, a thread going

7:15

south north on Twitter does more

7:17

concerning courting them. The Intel fail

7:19

safe as V Id setting as

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miss described. Please. Leave

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this to auto. If. Emanuel said

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until our profile for I see see Max

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Pl on appeal to is added to entails

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feel safe as we I D C view

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V for can go away too high. Which.

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Is exactly what her? Her. To talking

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about so just don't do it and be

7:39

careful And hopefully they aren't all the stuff

7:41

how to become cysts I cope and actual.

7:44

Based. By the should always have in the case. I

7:47

know that on. These Amazon

7:49

motherboards and you first install a twelve thirteen

7:51

to fourteen chance if you will ask you.

7:53

Which. Profile you want to enable. And

7:56

the default is what they call liquid cooling. Which

7:59

is. The Limits: The four thousand nine

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hundred. every other one is long. Do

8:03

you really wanna hurt me? Do you

8:06

really want to make me cry? From

8:09

the other the one that I recommend is

8:11

called Intel Box Cooler which of course. Does.

8:13

Not exist anymore for the unlocked four I

8:15

know it's so choose the Intel box who

8:17

are sending which at least limits Peel One

8:19

appeal to to and fifty three was. For.

8:22

The thirteenth and fourteenth Chin I

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nine K K F processors to

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go to Extreme Power Delivery. On.

8:29

The k S for example. That.

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Goes up to. Three.

8:34

When when he. Yeah and same

8:36

with the as the thirteenth and

8:38

fourteenth Chimp ks A seamless odds.

8:42

By. All odds All

8:44

I've personally heard of

8:46

our Nine Hundred K

8:48

scuse Adam. Yeah.

8:51

Even are. I

8:55

can't remember where I was watching it. It may have

8:58

been on the same. The Pc

9:00

World's a. Shows

9:03

that they were talking and apparently

9:05

it's not even K S is.

9:07

it's just the case to Thirteen

9:10

and Fourteenth Nine Hundred case. There

9:12

may be some seven hundreds, but

9:14

I haven't heard of any of

9:16

those. And.

9:19

As I've mentioned on here several

9:22

times, my K S is. Absolutely

9:25

fine. I've had no instability or

9:27

odd issues like any of the

9:29

others that people have described, and

9:32

yes, I've over clock the hell

9:34

out of it. But that's beside

9:36

the point I'm here. Your cooling

9:39

is not normal though. No, no,

9:41

no and I wonder now it

9:43

is for naughty thermally related. Was.

9:47

A be the it's all him hand

9:50

voltage. Thermals, Yes!

9:52

A Apps. And didn't Sybil

9:54

what what your ship is going?

9:56

I'm in the cooler you have

9:58

it, the better. silicon

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and metal in their work.

10:07

The hotter it gets, the more resistance

10:10

the worse things get. It's

10:13

just so if you keep it

10:15

super cool like Ken who

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is truly an enthusiast, then

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you're probably going to be fine. But people

10:22

who have just a mediocre

10:24

AIO or a

10:27

God forbid fan and heatsink

10:29

cooling that is

10:32

very basic, then you're

10:35

going to run into problems because you're

10:37

going to get these massive thermal spikes

10:39

internally to the chip that's

10:42

just going to disrupt so much stuff and

10:44

the cooling can't handle it. So

10:47

you're, yeah, it's

10:49

not great. Go ahead Ken.

10:52

No, you and you're right

10:54

on the money. You can't cool either

10:57

the 13 or 14 900 Ks with any air cooler. You

11:04

can't just put it

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on and say boot

11:09

up of your new motherboard with a 13

11:11

900 or 14 900

11:14

K, stick a D15

11:16

on there and say, oh, it's going to be

11:18

great. It's not. You're

11:21

going to throttle like hell. Your

11:24

motherboards going to try and up

11:26

voltage to get stability and

11:28

it's just all going to be

11:30

a mess and then you're going to throttle. You've

11:36

got to have at least a 360

11:39

AIO and most of those are just

11:41

barely capable of cooling those two levels

11:45

of processor. And

11:49

it's, you know, I don't think I realize how much 250 watts of heat really is

11:51

and what

11:58

it takes to dissipate that. In

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an effective way without you

12:03

really truly overheating the

12:05

core because of course obviously that is what is

12:07

producing the heat and If

12:10

you can I'll wake that heat away

12:12

quickly and effectively then

12:15

you're gonna run into this

12:17

cascade issue of increased

12:20

voltage increased resistance even more

12:22

voltage and damps and it's

12:25

just it's just Yeah,

12:28

I I think Intel

12:30

has backed themselves into a corner with

12:33

this. I mean AMD has done pretty

12:35

well. They're not perfect but

12:38

when you look at the m5 stuff and the 5000

12:40

series and then You know

12:42

the kind of the jump to the 7000 series

12:44

where they thought you know what we can expand all

12:47

this with you know kind of better power a little

12:49

bit better cooling and Intel

12:51

was it was At

12:53

a worse spot in terms

12:55

of like IPC and they had

12:58

also gone to you know these

13:00

efficiency cores So

13:02

when you're talking overall performance

13:05

at the high end you have you know

13:08

a mixture of performance cores and efficiency cores

13:10

and All kinds

13:12

of the stuff and it just didn't match

13:14

up. I mean they indeed has done a

13:16

really good job of Of

13:20

Performing at third level without a whole lot

13:22

of you know tricks I

13:25

mean there are obviously some with

13:27

the m5 series and the 7000

13:32

processors, but they are not

13:34

hitting Issues that

13:36

Intel is to try to kind of

13:38

keep up with the Joneses in

13:41

this case And it has

13:43

really come back to hit

13:45

them now if you've got a You

13:47

know 14 You're

13:50

gonna be great because that's and that

13:52

really an outstanding product overall

13:56

for the price But

13:58

once you start going about that things

14:02

get wacky because I don't

14:05

know it's just too much complexity

14:07

too much variability is too much

14:10

heat too much power being addressed

14:12

into a very very very small

14:16

chip and cooling

14:20

you're not gonna have the best cooling

14:22

in every implementation that can handle

14:24

this so it's I

14:26

mean they're living on the ragged edge and

14:30

we have seen them fall off but

14:34

that's not the concern when you want to look at on a

14:36

chart compared to Ryzen

14:38

processors this generation so that's

14:41

what they've done they've pushed everything

14:43

too far the

14:46

only alternative would be to fail

14:48

to meet the Ryzen 9 standards

14:50

of multi-threaded performance so here's Cinebench

14:52

R23 this is from hardware locks

14:56

Cinebench R23 with your ridiculous 4,095

14:58

watt PL2 you can get over 40,000 in a multi-threaded test

15:00

if you

15:05

actually can implement the Intel

15:07

baseline profile which may or may not be

15:09

too aggressive it's a pretty performance that

15:11

you're going down to 37,000 in the same

15:14

test you're you're not going to look as good on

15:18

the charts it doesn't really matter you get to

15:20

complete the test as opposed to it crashing halfway

15:22

through that's true that's true but here's the other

15:24

thing I mean look at

15:26

hardware locks findings with single threaded

15:28

performance with the Intel baseline profile

15:30

it's higher than default slightly and this

15:33

is the exact same thing that I found when I

15:35

did power scaling testing with a 3900 K which is

15:39

that when you start scaling

15:42

back your

15:44

single threaded performance can

15:46

scale up with

15:48

a 241 watt limit I

15:50

don't remember where I came up with that number but this ended up

15:53

being a very nice balance with the cooler I was using a 360

15:55

AIO I was getting over

15:57

38,000 multi and slightly

16:00

higher, consistently not very much, like

16:02

five or six points higher, but higher single threaded, and

16:04

it went up just a little bit again when I

16:06

lowered it down to 125 watts, which

16:10

did not affect gaming in the least. So

16:13

if you're just gaming and

16:15

general purpose computing with these things, it doesn't hurt

16:17

you to run even at 125 watts. Set

16:22

it to like the 181 of a Core i5, this generation. It's

16:26

not gonna hurt you that much. You only need all

16:28

of that power when you're running every P and E-Core

16:31

all out in something like

16:33

video render. So.

16:39

You know, Pat Gelsinger needs

16:41

to have a discussion with some

16:43

of these product managers in engineering,

16:47

because yeah,

16:49

it looks great on benchmarks, but

16:52

when you start getting

16:55

reports of instability and

16:58

you know, I mean, Falcon Northwest is not

17:01

a major partner, but

17:03

they're an influential partner because they

17:05

really pay attention to their products,

17:07

their customers, and the

17:09

engineering behind it. I mean, if they

17:11

come out and are like, hey, you need

17:14

to do this, this, this to get

17:16

stability, we hear other kinds of instability

17:18

with Unreal Engine 5 plus, I

17:21

mean, that just undermines

17:24

consumer confidence in your

17:26

product. It's like, yeah, they, you know,

17:28

we can run these benchmarks and get really high-end

17:30

things, but you know, hey, I'm

17:32

running through the latest level of a

17:34

game I'm playing, and I just keep

17:36

consistently crashing. It's

17:40

not a good look, and there

17:42

needs to be, you know, some come

17:44

to Jesus meetings at Intel

17:47

about how much we're willing to

17:49

push this stuff

17:51

to the ragged edge because

17:54

we've obviously, again, fallen

17:56

over it. to

18:00

do that and the boutique builders are gonna start looking at

18:02

AMD a lot closer because

18:05

those boxes don't

18:07

do that. Well

18:10

maybe they do but I'm

18:12

not hearing a lot of accessibility complaints about the

18:14

7800X 3D for some reason. I don't know it's

18:17

odd. What

18:19

happens when you take eight cores at

18:21

what five nanometers attached a

18:24

bunch of L3 cache to it seems to be

18:26

pretty good. And then clock it down. Yeah and

18:28

then yeah an aggressively limit

18:31

the power draw those are such

18:33

well-behaved CPUs. They're too well-behaved. You

18:36

can't really do thermal testing with them because they're like 125-140

18:38

watt limit whatever it is. That's just it. Damn

18:43

it. Get your rebel a little bit. You

18:47

know there is a reason why I've

18:49

stuck with this 5800X 3D in

18:52

my main machine and now the test

18:54

machine because in all the game testing

18:56

I do it just

18:59

performs right at that same level but

19:02

it is like Sebastian said

19:05

so well-behaved. So

19:09

I mean there's this there's this dichotomy thing

19:11

going on. There's people

19:13

buying most of these

19:16

processors are well some

19:18

are enthusiasts you know. I

19:21

am an enthusiast who is

19:23

also a gamer and honestly I've got

19:25

way more processor than I really use

19:28

for anything other than just tinkering around

19:31

with overclock. But most people

19:33

that are buying these they're

19:35

gamers. They

19:37

don't need 900 series

19:41

processors. They don't need 7950 or even

19:43

5950 processors. I know people that put 5950 X's non

19:53

3D well there wasn't a 5950 X3 but

19:55

5950 X processors processors

20:00

in basic gaming

20:03

PCs. And

20:07

they don't need that. That's, you

20:09

know, that's more processor than they need. It's

20:11

not even really designed for that. But people

20:14

want to see those high Cinebench scores when

20:16

they boot up their new system. And

20:19

in gaming, you're

20:22

not doing the same kind of process

20:24

loads. You know, when

20:26

I am gaming on my system, if I run

20:28

a Cinebench, I run, I pull about 320 to

20:30

330 watts on the processor during the run. When

20:38

I game, it's around 250 to

20:40

270 on the processor. Uh,

20:46

so they,

20:48

you know, these companies, Intel's

20:50

pushing, they're telling the, the

20:52

motherboard manufacturers to push, but

20:55

also the motherboard manufacturers are going well,

20:57

all these publications are going

20:59

to be testing our mother board against

21:01

other motherboards. So we want to put

21:04

a little extra in there to push it a little

21:06

further. And that's

21:09

when you end up with problems like this

21:11

is when everybody Intel is

21:13

trying to push a little further. The motherboard

21:15

manufacturers are trying to push a little further

21:17

and somebody's pushed too far. There

21:21

are rumors now that maybe 8,000 series will

21:23

not even have high

21:25

end by tenders. There was a rumor

21:28

about that before, but who knows? Anyway,

21:30

I don't think they will. I think

21:32

that the rumors are probably right. This

21:34

is a Polaris generation again, that they're

21:37

going to target this kind

21:39

of mid range with a, an affordable,

21:41

I mean, the, the

21:44

memory that they're going to use is

21:47

a, you know, Sebastian, what's your type of

21:49

three right now? There

21:51

it is. Here, this is a story

21:53

from tech spot, but I've seen

21:55

the reports on social media, AMD

21:57

Radeon RX 8000. RDNA

22:00

4 GPUs rumored to use 18

22:03

gigabit per second GDDR6. If

22:05

that's the case, and that's what they're using now, if that's the

22:07

case, it's not looking good for the

22:10

possibility of a high-end RDNA 4

22:12

GPU. Now would 8000 maybe be

22:15

like an OEM kind of

22:17

stopgap? They could go 9000 for

22:19

mainstream and do something like GDDR7.

22:22

Not impossible, but seems

22:24

unlikely. They're going from 7000 to

22:26

9000 for consumer CPUs. It

22:29

depends on the chips they release. If they're

22:31

not going to release a high-end RDNA 4,

22:35

then it doesn't matter. I mean,

22:38

if they can achieve 7,900 XT performance, which is a $700 part,

22:40

with the bill of materials for

22:49

a $500 part, or

22:53

even less, and sell it

22:55

somewhere in between there, then they're

22:59

going to do fine. That's what it sounds like

23:01

they're doing. They're going to give up the high-end.

23:05

There's not going to be a 7,800 XTX for the 8000

23:07

series. It's not going to be

23:10

a $1,000 part.

23:14

Yeah, those sell okay,

23:16

but people have been

23:18

pretty unhappy about graphics

23:21

card prices for a

23:24

long time. If they can

23:26

provide something that will give $700

23:31

performance currently for $500,

23:34

and we can look at the 7,800 XT

23:37

and see the sales on

23:39

that versus everything else in

23:41

this price range. It's a

23:43

good idea for the company. Sucks

23:45

for enthusiasts, sucks for people who

23:47

really want that high-end performance, the

23:49

new features, everything else, but

23:53

this is the area that actually sells.

23:56

It used to be this was a $300, $250

24:00

to $350 range that people would buy.

24:02

I mean think of it the

24:05

the GTX 1070 was

24:08

what? 439

24:10

or something and that was a Good

24:14

selling part. I mean the 1060

24:16

was even better selling. I mean

24:18

people don't want to spend huge amounts of money

24:22

And I think AMD is is

24:24

really focusing on The

24:27

meat of the market where people are gonna spend

24:29

money and

24:31

they're not pushing beyond that and They

24:35

eventually probably will but maybe

24:37

not this generation. I mean they they

24:40

know the numbers of Polaris the

24:42

RX 400

24:44

and 500 series sold

24:46

really well for them and Partners

24:50

were happy with them. I Mean

24:54

they couldn't compete well with the Nvidia stuff

24:56

But the Nvidia stuff was always priced a

24:58

lot higher and what is

25:00

selling today? for better

25:02

for worse You see new

25:04

egg specials of the RX 580 so

25:07

I Don't know If

25:11

only we we had you know

25:13

flies in the accounting room To

25:16

see what's really happening But

25:19

you know for many years

25:21

the high-end has not paid off for

25:23

AMD and Maybe this

25:26

again is is Polaris moment 2.0 Where

25:29

they don't offer a really high-end

25:31

thing. They offer good performance at

25:34

the mid-range and below Well

25:38

that architecture ought to sell them a few

25:40

consoles as well You

25:43

know once the next generation consoles incorporate

25:45

whatever new System they come

25:47

up with You know we

25:50

haven't talked about Intel in a while. Let's talk about

25:52

Intel again Intel

25:54

arc After

25:57

we podcasted last week until

25:59

released new beta

26:01

or beta. However you prefer to pronounce that

26:03

driver here is that version 5444 and look

26:05

at these numbers up to 30% uplift at

26:07

1080 ultra in Astroneer

26:14

whatever that is. Days Gone is a 5%

26:17

boost Dyson Sphere 15. Fortnite in

26:19

performance mode 15%. Pretty much

26:22

across the board better performance

26:24

yet again this is a

26:26

DX11 titles. They are still

26:28

working on these drivers and making these products

26:30

better. The mass effect legendary uplift 48% they're

26:39

putting up some numbers. Forget about this

26:41

RDNA 4 Polaris reboot

26:43

type idea just get an arc

26:45

card because apparently you're gonna get

26:48

great driver support and the X11

26:50

performance keeps getting better initially that was

26:52

not great. Intel investing

26:55

in software is

26:57

a really good thing. It's

26:59

going to help their entire

27:01

product line from not only

27:03

the our GPUs but every

27:06

mobile and desktop

27:09

integrated part from here on out

27:12

and so it is well worth their time to do

27:14

that kind of stuff because

27:17

it's gonna make the end user

27:19

experience so much

27:21

better and

27:23

they need to do it. They need to invest in

27:25

software. I mean we can look at the

27:27

investment that Nvidia made with the CUDA framework

27:29

and how that is paying off in AI.

27:33

They need to do the base work to

27:35

get their software running.

27:37

I mean what's the main

27:40

complaint that we've had for

27:42

ATI graphics and AMD

27:46

driver quality and

27:49

that's a huge selling point. I

27:51

mean you plug something in, you install

27:53

the latest drivers and

27:55

a game you install just

27:57

works and so

27:59

it's It's great to see that

28:03

Intel is still taking this very seriously

28:06

and we see leaps and

28:08

bounds in performance with our

28:10

Arc series because BattleMate's coming. It's coming

28:12

to town probably

28:15

in what, five

28:17

months maybe? And

28:21

all of the work that they're doing here

28:23

is going to pay huge dividends when they

28:25

actually release it. Before

28:28

the holiday season, before the Nvidia

28:31

5000 series, before our DNA 4

28:33

or around there, they're

28:40

going to be better off. And they're

28:42

aiming at the meat and potatoes of

28:44

the market, not this high end, but

28:47

the stuff where people get a paycheck and they're

28:49

like, hey, I can afford a $350 video card.

28:53

The 450 is too much. Are

28:56

you kidding me? Yeah, that's

28:59

a dream. So yeah,

29:03

software is key. It is

29:05

a dream. I don't think you can buy a 4090 for 1500

29:07

unless you're buying used. You

29:10

can know 1700 now is the new baseline of a 4090. They

29:17

actually went down in price for the last

29:19

couple of weeks. I'm

29:21

still going to buy one. Sorry. Okay.

29:25

So what else Battle Mage can do, you're talking about

29:27

that a second ago, it can

29:29

apparently do uncompressed 8K

29:32

144 hertz video. Is

29:36

this true? The rumors. It's

29:38

a rumor safe. The developers has this. It's

29:41

basically a number they backed into due

29:44

to some of the source code that

29:46

was released to support the upcoming Battle

29:48

Mage ships under Linux, where

29:50

they capped the data output

29:52

at 13.5 gigabits per second, which

29:55

if you do the math on

29:57

that, should be about 8K video

30:00

144 hertz. Now

30:03

would that be with lossless video compression

30:05

then? I don't know why. How

30:08

could we possibly expect uncompressed 8K144?

30:12

I don't know where they're gonna get that from

30:14

but... Okay, okay. It

30:17

is an interesting data point though. Yeah.

30:21

And the rumor is... The rumor

30:25

is before Black Friday as Josh

30:27

was implying. All right,

30:29

let's get into some of our Microsoft news for

30:31

this week. I know there's one very spicy story

30:33

that everybody's been talking about but first, how

30:36

about Microsoft's Thanksgiving 2025 Massacree?

30:40

What is this? I don't understand the rumor.

30:43

Well, you don't know your little Guthrie then.

30:45

I do not. Which is something you should

30:47

fix. As long as called

30:49

Alice's Restaurant, but it's also known as the Great

30:52

Thanksgiving Massa garbage Massacree. Anyways,

30:56

if you're Canadian and you

30:58

have Thanksgiving at the proper time, which is

31:00

in October, this makes even more sense. But

31:03

October 13th, 2025 is the death of Windows 10. After

31:09

that, you're forking over 61 bucks per

31:11

device for the first year to get updates and

31:13

it doubles after that for

31:16

probably three years before they just completely

31:18

cut it off, which is what they've

31:20

done historically. But Office 2016

31:22

and Office 2019, which

31:25

I believe is almost the only version

31:28

of Office you can ever buy. After

31:30

that is just Office 365 subscription will

31:33

die and Skype for

31:35

Business will finally be

31:37

taken behind the shed. It's,

31:41

ooh, it's certainly time and

31:43

of course, if

31:45

you're they're pushing teams and if you're unable

31:47

to install teams for whatever reason and there

31:49

can be quite a few of them, they're

31:52

gonna push the web version as

31:54

being a huge solution.

31:58

On the business side, Exchange Server 2016 and

32:01

2019 will be dead on October 14th, which

32:05

is brilliant because they

32:08

killed Exchange Server 2022. So

32:11

there is no new version of Exchange Server

32:13

beyond 2019, which will be

32:15

dead in a few months. Well,

32:18

sorry, a year and a few months from now. So

32:21

in theory, there will be a Server 2025 release with

32:25

a little bit of lead time before they

32:27

stop pushing updates for Exchange 2019. But

32:31

we're not really sure. And

32:34

if you're just to top everything off with

32:36

the cherry, although it gets

32:39

better in the next story, if you're

32:41

using Windows 10, the

32:43

latest preview release gives you

32:45

a pop-up if you

32:48

are one of those horrific people that insists on

32:50

using a local account. If

32:53

you don't follow your advice and you do

32:55

not sign up for

32:57

that Microsoft account and associate your computer with it, you

33:00

will get that pop-up every

33:03

day over and over and

33:05

over again for however

33:08

long your willpower can last. And you finally break down

33:10

and attach a Microsoft account to your Windows 10 system,

33:13

or Windows 10 dies in a year and a

33:15

bit. So yeah, they're hitting

33:17

it out of the park with

33:19

this end of life stuff. There's just so much

33:21

dying all at once. And

33:23

especially on the business side, so many, they're just like, yeah,

33:26

we love to go to Windows 11. We just can't

33:29

afford to refresh our entire fleet to have

33:31

stuff with TPM chips you like in it, you

33:34

bastards. And

33:36

then just killing Server 2019, which

33:39

is the only current one going, because of course they would

33:41

like to introduce you to their rental

33:43

program. Office B59

33:45

solves all of your problems.

33:51

But as I alluded to, it gets better. So

33:55

in the latest Windows 11

33:57

preview, there's an- optional

34:00

rollout update KB-5036980, which

34:05

improves your start menu experience. It

34:09

does this by adding

34:12

advertisements for the

34:14

latest and greatest apps available in

34:16

the Microsoft Store, because that is

34:19

what we all want. So

34:21

it would be horrific of you to

34:23

go into settings, personalization, start, and

34:26

toggle show recommendations for tips, app promotions,

34:28

and more to the off position. You

34:31

should definitely not do that. You should enjoy

34:33

the fact that your start

34:35

menu has now become a billboard

34:37

for the Microsoft Store. It's

34:40

a dear gift to you. This

34:43

is great because- You've tried this in the past. Yeah,

34:46

go on. As we talked about last week, this

34:48

Roku is really sort of amateur hour waiting for

34:50

you to actually pause what it is you were

34:53

doing before showing you an ad. Microsoft

34:55

is getting right into your workflow, I

34:58

think that's- I'll be sure to find that out.

35:00

Professionalism. Yeah. Well, they

35:02

were pioneers. Roku

35:04

paved the way and we salute

35:06

them. But

35:10

as Microsoft has demonstrated time and again, they

35:12

will do everything they can to- Let

35:17

me fix the camera here. Now, if only

35:19

they can one up Adobe by

35:22

making everything subscription, which-

35:24

They would love to. They would love to. At

35:27

this point though, they should really just make

35:29

Windows free. There should be an

35:32

ad supported version and a

35:34

paid version. Go with the freemium model.

35:36

Hey, I want to get rid of these annoying ads. Well, I'll

35:39

pay $100 to unlock the full

35:41

version of this operating system. Or

35:44

I'll use the free version that Microsoft puts

35:46

in my start menu. So

35:48

let's talk more about Microsoft. Microsoft

35:50

really does not want your Windows

35:52

11 install on an old

35:54

PC. Now, honestly, these are pretty old PCs. If

35:56

they don't have S&P 4.2. trying

36:00

to install Windows 11, what

36:02

would even be pre-SSC 4.2?

36:06

I think you're looking at, as they say, 15 years ago. Yeah.

36:11

So, this is kind of an odd story.

36:13

Would you even want to put Windows 10

36:15

on a machine, running like an FX processor?

36:18

But Windows 10, really, what's going

36:20

to happen to Windows 10 here? I

36:22

mean, they're shuffling that off to

36:24

its mortal coil as quickly as possible, but you

36:26

potentially still have a machine that you are reasonably

36:29

happy with whatever it is that you do with

36:31

it. Oh, I'll just install the latest

36:33

version of whatever Windows is available

36:35

now. No, no you're not. Go

36:37

out and spend more money. It's

36:39

just another one of those things

36:42

that's going on with Microsoft and

36:44

urging, insisting people move forward. I

36:47

hate to break it to you, but that Windows

36:49

98 SE install is not getting security updates anymore.

36:52

It's not official ones, anyway. So,

36:56

the FX-Boldoser era, that even supported, even

36:58

that supported SSE 4.2. So,

37:05

you have to go pretty far back to

37:08

get a processor that does not support that

37:10

extension. But I'm sure they're out there. Let's

37:13

see. How about the vaunted

37:15

FX57? It's a

37:17

classic processor. It's rare,

37:19

expensive. It's one core and

37:22

one thread. We used to live in

37:24

hell. SSE 3D now. There

37:26

you go. SSE 3. No, SSE 4.

37:29

AMT had a 4A for

37:31

a little while too. It was

37:34

like a half support. No,

37:36

it was Barcelona or something. Okay,

37:39

I haven't seen the code name San

37:41

Diego in a long time. The

37:43

FX57 was an interesting

37:46

stopgap processor for the

37:49

high end. It

37:51

was not really consumer oriented, even

37:54

though they aimed it that way, sort of.

37:57

But yeah. Next

37:59

up. Three reasons why you should not use

38:01

Iperf 3 on Windows. What is Iperf 3? It's

38:07

a network performance monitor

38:09

a way of Determining

38:12

how fast packets move from one

38:14

device to another network network performance

38:17

Iperf internet performance so

38:19

to speak anyway Iperf

38:22

3 latest version you'd think you'd go get

38:24

that one and you know throw it on

38:26

your box and have an accurate measurement But

38:29

that's not actually the case apparently the company

38:31

that makes Iperf 3 actually only

38:33

develops it on Linux and and

38:35

macOS, I think there might be another OS

38:38

they develop it on but Microsoft

38:40

is recommending that you pull up Iperf 2

38:44

And and use that one. So if you're trying

38:46

to use Iperf 3 on Windows just don't

38:48

it's not giving you accurate results And

38:52

Windows also comes with

38:54

a couple of network measurement tools. It's got to

38:56

be But

38:58

I was gonna say that it also brought us one

39:00

of the most hilarious things I've read on the web

39:02

on the web today. Go back and

39:04

you look under the bold on reason 3. Oh You

39:07

can show them or read it out Go

39:10

search for Iperf 3 on Windows on the web. Go ahead

39:12

open a tab and use your search engine of choice Which

39:15

I am certain is Bing with CoViolet

39:19

Yes, Microsoft. Yes. Yes, it definitely

39:21

is Go

39:23

back to the second on glue I

39:27

also want to know if it actually comes

39:29

up with that because Bing

39:32

with CoViolet doesn't necessarily search for what you

39:34

asked it to it searches for what it

39:36

knows you wanted to find. Oh Well,

39:40

whatever just you know open up NTT

39:42

CP and or yeah Whatever

39:45

Windows tool you want and use that instead

39:47

and then I don't care if you're using a different architecture

39:49

on the other end Of that wires, you should only be

39:51

talking to Windows machines. Anyways Okay

39:56

Keep them separated. Yeah It's

40:00

time for in the security corridor first

40:03

story comes from bleeping computer of course

40:05

Arcane door hackers exploit

40:07

Cisco zero days to

40:10

breach government networks This

40:13

is always exciting when you see a couple of pieces

40:16

of security apparatus are the ones that

40:18

are actually being exploited by

40:20

hackers to gain access unfortunately

40:24

my browser

40:26

just quit rendering this There

40:30

we go, okay Yeah,

40:34

so security by obscurity

40:36

never works Cisco builds a

40:38

couple of very nice firewalls Unfortunately,

40:40

they've been exploited since late last year

40:43

and they have just come out with

40:45

a zero day what they're calling a

40:47

zero day patch So

40:49

if you've got one of their ASA

40:51

or FTD devices for goodness sakes get

40:53

their latest patch because it's been possible

40:56

to exploit your firewalls A

41:00

device that's supposed to prevent this sort of thing again.

41:02

Just as a quick reminder with

41:05

malware and That

41:08

has allowed threat actors to gain illicit

41:10

access to your networks so

41:12

again, if you're rocking

41:15

a an ASA or an FTD

41:17

device from Cisco They

41:19

have a patch with your name on it.

41:21

Please please go upgrade as soon as you

41:23

can. It's been exploitable for quite a while Yeah,

41:26

it's on the zero day. It's like a negative 200 day Yeah,

41:29

I thought that was kind of a weird naming

41:32

way You're saying they calling

41:34

it a zero day because maybe it's because

41:36

you guys just discovered it and then you

41:38

sort of Yeah, looked at the exploits going

41:40

like oh we've been vulnerable and they've been

41:42

exploiting it since like November of last year

41:44

Oh, this feels bad You

41:48

know, they've literally only

41:50

strongly encouraged those people

41:52

rocking these Apparatus's these

41:54

appliances to upgrade I think it'd be like

41:57

a more strongly

41:59

encouraged than Simply strongly

42:01

encouraged like shut it off to you. I'm your great

42:03

it You patches

42:05

let's go firewall and half the time it just belly

42:07

up and you know gotta be doing from scratch So

42:10

so I'll buy another one that's Cisco like

42:12

if or yes Yes Yeah,

42:16

you're like a card. Um, oh yesterday

42:19

bizarre Don't worry.

42:21

Your sister Cisco salesman is making

42:23

a stop at your location very

42:25

soon Yeah, and look they have some

42:27

new managed products for you that are exciting and Fully

42:31

compliant with everything until they're not

42:33

until they've been yep Imagine

42:36

imagine if it's like the tech world

42:38

snap-on tool truck and you sort of get the

42:40

idea. I Don't

42:43

know Whatever

42:45

you can refuse. Okay Tools

42:48

are good to have firmware

42:50

issues with the tools or

42:53

exploit electronics Snap-on tools

42:55

like there's a torque wrench thing we talked

42:57

about probably late last year. Anyway, that was

42:59

hackable. Well, I think Next

43:06

Google can't quit those third-party

43:08

cookies. They're just so tempting

43:11

Apparently they have to delay the shutdown for

43:14

a third time Well,

43:16

yeah, they easily design their own Uh

43:20

Advertising system built into chrome Before

43:23

they'll get rid of these third-party cookies So they

43:25

want to be able to do it themselves and

43:27

say that they're not tracking. Yeah It's

43:31

almost like on one hand you have

43:33

evil and the other hand

43:35

you've got more evil So

43:37

basically the UK has gone to

43:40

the extent of saying alright We're

43:42

gonna tolerate the existing evil while

43:44

we evaluate your new evil and

43:47

just see how much worse it is and

43:49

that's that system

43:52

that Jeremy was just talking about the fact

43:54

that now chrome is gonna be built

43:57

in this whole ad tracking system

43:59

that that the UK government

44:01

is now afraid that somehow going to

44:03

advantage Google in the ads or

44:06

the advertising space. I can't imagine how that would

44:08

work. But they're seeing

44:10

that that might be the case, so

44:12

they're investigating the new evil to try

44:14

and decide whether it's worse or better

44:16

than the existing evil. And

44:19

in this case, please keep the existing evil

44:21

running. And that's what Google's

44:24

doing with their cookies. Are we

44:26

going to mention the name of the new evil?

44:30

Sure, go ahead. Privacy sandbox. Yes.

44:39

It's almost like a firewall that's designed

44:41

to prevent intrusion. Sorry.

44:47

Finally, from Security Week, new

44:50

password cracking analysis targets

44:52

BCrypt. So they're

44:54

not just using MD5, apparently. No,

44:58

not at all. Passwords

45:02

are usually encrypted with what are called

45:04

one-way hashing algorithms. And the way that

45:07

that works is that your plain text

45:09

password is passed through a one-way

45:12

hashing algorithm that's turned into what

45:15

looks like a mismatch of

45:17

hexadecimal and number characters

45:21

and letters and sometimes

45:23

other characters. But anyway, the

45:26

point here is that it's supposed to be

45:28

non-reversible, and that the only way that these

45:31

systems know that it's you that are logging

45:33

in is they run your whatever's been entered

45:35

as your password through the same one-way hashing

45:38

algorithm, and then they compare it with the

45:40

previously hashed algorithm. Usually that

45:42

has a time seed in

45:44

it as well. So if

45:47

those things match, they let you in. Mainly

45:50

sophisticated algorithms, as well as

45:53

the helpful hand of very,

45:55

very fast GPUs and

45:58

the algorithms that are there. can

46:00

run in the GPUs are

46:03

reversing these one-way

46:05

hash algorithms in

46:07

such a way that if your password

46:10

is not complex enough and has not

46:13

gone through the right one-way hashing algorithm,

46:15

BCrypt, MD5, or a couple of them,

46:18

they're easily guessed. And here's a

46:20

helpful chart. So

46:22

if you're using a six-character password

46:24

of numbers only, this

46:26

crew with their easily

46:29

accessible, I think they're

46:31

using a dozen 4090s,

46:34

can guess your password instantly. But

46:37

if you're, don't worry, if you're using eight numbers,

46:39

it takes them 37 seconds to guess

46:42

your password. That's okay. But-

46:45

And that's with 1249s. I mean- That's

46:47

with 1249. I mean, who can possibly afford that? That's

46:49

a lot of horsepower. Yeah. So

46:51

if it is- It'd be several minutes

46:54

for most people. Yeah.

46:56

Yeah. If they're really interested

46:58

in your password, it might take them minutes.

47:01

You know, if you're using like lowercase

47:03

letters, it might take almost

47:06

a day to guess your eight-character

47:08

password. So I mentioned

47:10

this like maybe last week, maybe a couple

47:12

of weeks ago, but make your passwords longer.

47:15

Mix them with a couple of symbols.

47:18

Get above 11 characters. You're pretty

47:21

much going to be generally safe

47:23

from most password

47:25

brute forcing hacking attempts and

47:27

there you're, with

47:29

today's technology, you're into months

47:32

or years worth of hacking with this kind of

47:34

setup. That doesn't mean a state actor isn't going

47:36

to be able to hack your stuff in minutes.

47:38

But the point is, is the average

47:41

hacking crew is not going to be able to

47:43

brute force your password. If

47:46

you use 12, 13, 14 characters, mixed,

47:49

potentially some mixed case with a couple of symbols, you're

47:51

going to be good. Just

47:54

do that. Don't use

47:56

easily- Unguarded. Unguarded.

47:58

Unguarded. humans

48:00

are somewhat predictable so

48:05

yep that is an excellent password Sebastian

48:07

good is this really you think this

48:09

would be easy to crack okay I'm

48:11

gonna tell you here's my advice by

48:13

not just characters so that's yep you

48:16

need to the dots between yeah

48:19

just close ops and oh

48:21

man that's my bank password

48:24

oh wait let's see thank

48:26

you that's 11 characters

48:28

right that's more than 11 characters it

48:31

is gotta be really secure I'll put up the number on

48:33

there you know what if

48:35

we just hop back to the oh

48:38

that's actually good good length excellent length

48:41

we hop back to the chart we can see

48:43

that takes almost you know two days to

48:45

hack that one that's with a dozen

48:47

40 90s

48:49

by the way so if it's yeah it is it

48:52

is and and B crypt is in widespread

48:55

use I guess that was the point

48:57

there is B crypt was considered fairly

48:59

in a salable for a long period

49:01

of time what if what's better what's

49:03

better the bigger I mean

49:05

they were turning our gun run are

49:08

gone too yeah

49:11

there's a couple of one-way hash algorithms that are

49:13

up and coming that might be a little bit

49:15

better but just try and push

49:17

your your length your password out to 10

49:19

11 characters and mix with symbols and you're

49:21

probably gonna be okay yeah even 10 though

49:23

if you can do 10 with

49:26

numbers upper lower case letters

49:29

and some throw it a symbol in there according

49:31

to this 33,000 years to crack your

49:34

password with a couple dozen 40 90s

49:37

now 50 90s we're gonna

49:39

lower that to you know just seconds but

49:41

all right yeah that'll be a big plus

49:45

I'm still going to put you use what

49:48

I'm still going to print this

49:50

chart out and post it at

49:52

my workplace tomorrow yeah it's

49:54

handy I'm sorry I'm going to

49:57

wait people you work with can read

49:59

your password Some

50:01

of them have MDs, so yes,

50:04

they can read. I

50:06

don't know that that's the thing that goes hand in hand.

50:11

And Mark says it succinctly from the YouTube

50:13

chat, says, we call that entropy. Put

50:15

a little bit of entropy into your

50:17

passwords, people. Please, please, just a little

50:19

bit. It's too

50:22

hard. If the barrier

50:25

to entry is anything,

50:28

most people say no. Most

50:30

people can't. And that's

50:32

why we have very, very large botnets.

50:35

Some of them are botnets of light

50:37

bulbs, but that's the manufacturer's fault. We're

50:40

creating password. 123 is the

50:42

default backdoor. But anyways, let's

50:45

move to gaming quick hits.

50:47

First up, we have Song

50:49

of Conquest, approaching version 1.0.

50:53

It is. It's

50:55

a pixel art if someone said, wait

50:57

a second. How many

50:59

pixels do screens have nowadays? Why

51:02

don't we make those pixels really, really tiny? Because

51:04

it is. It's relatively good looking. If it's

51:07

Heroes of Might and Magic, that

51:09

sort of wander around the map with your

51:11

hero and your armies and with

51:13

a separate city builder going. But it's

51:16

pretty. It's got a nice soundtrack

51:18

to it, oddly enough. And I've been

51:20

fiddling around with it a little bit, because

51:23

it's an early release. They're about

51:25

version 0.8 or so. But towards

51:28

the end of next month, it'll

51:30

hit version 1.0 for

51:32

everyone. If you like

51:34

this sort of game, we have one in a while. And

51:37

I've been sort of enjoying it. Wing

51:41

Commander 3 changed Windows

51:43

forever. Why? Because of

51:45

the Mark Hamill cut scenes or for

51:48

what? Well, that too. And

51:50

also the multitrack synthesized

51:53

music. But no. Yes.

52:00

So way back in the day, it

52:02

had so many people and it was

52:04

great. But

52:07

the thing is, before he did, we

52:09

commanded the movie. Well,

52:12

we don't mention that. No. No,

52:15

we just don't mention that. Well,

52:18

it's an odd little story that the

52:20

register stumbled across from an old Microsoft

52:22

veteran about how back in

52:24

the day when Microsoft did

52:27

their beta testing in-house as opposed to

52:29

making you pay to become one, one

52:33

of the managers went to a

52:35

GameStop or a boutique in games

52:38

back in the day, bought a copy of every piece

52:41

of software in it, brought it back

52:43

to the Windows 95 team and would hand out one or

52:45

two pieces to each of his engineers and say, play

52:48

it. If you can find a

52:50

way that it breaks in Windows 95, put in

52:52

a bug report and help we even solve it,

52:54

well, you get to keep software. So

52:57

one lucky guy got Wing Commander

52:59

3 to test out and

53:01

found something that when you're running it in DOS, no

53:04

problems whatsoever. But if you were

53:06

doing it natively in Windows 95,

53:09

the cloaking device would never enable

53:11

because it was control

53:13

C. So

53:15

it turns out that the clipboard paste

53:17

operation or copy operation was

53:20

still live while you were playing the

53:22

game. And

53:25

you know, instead of checking to see if there was an

53:27

actual active paste that could be done, it

53:30

would just put that control C

53:33

back through Windows into the DOS

53:35

3.0 version that

53:38

was actually running Wing Commander. And

53:41

boom, you just couldn't use that anymore. So

53:43

they had to completely change how the

53:46

whole copy and paste, the port and the behind the

53:48

scenes worked. So yet again, another

53:50

wonderful thing that Wing Commander 3 brought us.

53:55

And now you know, speaking of one

53:57

of the Wing Commander games. He

54:00

continued those instead of Star

54:03

Citizen But

54:05

Star Citizen is made him rich So

54:10

rich so although they're

54:12

talking a lawsuit now PSA Pre-release

54:16

gameplay now counts against

54:18

steams return policy So

54:22

if you do early on stealing a game by

54:24

testing the beta and yeah realizing you'd Buy it

54:26

if you were in early access to that game

54:28

if you buy it you don't like it too

54:30

bad You already played it too much Yep,

54:33

ha ha well this is I Think

54:36

this even counts like demos. So if you play

54:39

the hell out of one of their early release

54:41

demos and Yes, buy

54:43

it. Yeah, you're kind of screwed. So

54:46

it's you've got a little bit of time But

54:49

yeah, apparently this is a loophole that valve

54:52

is really upset about people taking

54:54

advantage of it and Say

54:57

if you spend more than two hours Sorry,

55:01

or apparently have it for more well The other the nice thing

55:03

is that the other thing is what it wasn't just the two

55:05

hours It was also 14 days after purchase So if you bought

55:07

it and never got around to playing it because

55:10

we all play every one of our steam games in the

55:12

library Right, but you never actually touched

55:14

it But if 14 days the lapses then you're

55:17

no longer allowed to return it Well,

55:19

they're nice enough to only start that 14

55:21

day countdown from when the game is officially

55:23

released So

55:25

you're that doesn't count but so if

55:27

you go into early access Never

55:30

play it and then drop it before it's released.

55:32

You should still get your money back. But

55:34

yeah, just really Speaking

55:37

of dropping things Jeremy. Oh,

55:39

you want to talk

55:42

about a keyboard for us? Not

55:46

really, I mean it's a keyboard It's

55:49

a nice keyboard you like you wrote about

55:51

it at PC per calm it's the drop

55:54

CST M 6 5 I Actually

55:58

wrote it on it In a

56:00

recursive sort of a review. So this is

56:04

Their cut down version or CSTM

56:06

80 As

56:08

you can see, it's a 65% or in fact as

56:11

opposed to the 80% that makes sense I

56:14

mean, honestly, I personally find 65% just

56:17

a little bit to trim down My

56:20

pinky on my right hand actually

56:22

does a fair amount of things and well

56:24

some of those buttons don't even exist anymore

56:28

But if that doesn't bother you at

56:30

all Or and you don't want

56:32

to get the CSTM 80. It's got everything

56:34

the CSTM 80 did so the

56:36

top of it is magnetic Art.

56:39

Yeah, so you can see drop always

56:41

ships beautiful boxes. I have

56:43

never had a qualm with any of their deliveries

56:47

a little bit of oil cable Isn't

56:50

it nice? Yeah, you

56:52

have cable comes separately in

56:54

a contrasting color at that You've

56:57

got a quitter surf green It

57:00

is a Chennai green. Thank you very

57:02

much. Okay. Oh, oh Yes

57:07

Because you they've got that and skedata orange, which

57:09

I was thinking about getting just for the name

57:11

because it amused me All

57:14

it's all so facing and

57:17

the lights do go through it USB-C

57:20

on the back and It

57:23

has a weighted plate in it Which

57:26

is the better part of a pound and Then

57:29

metal design of the keyboard itself if this

57:31

is a self-defense keyboard, you could fight

57:34

someone off with this thing it's probably almost or found the

57:39

quick and snap adapter on the on

57:42

the USB cord Looks

57:44

a lot like you know ps2 to me. It's

57:46

not but it just sort of

57:49

looks like it It's nicely just clicked together

57:51

really solidly. You gotta pull it apart to

57:53

get it, but It's

57:55

it's a good thing because it makes it long

57:57

enough that you've got absolutely no worry about you

57:59

know having a desktop way over in the corner

58:01

and it coming over. In

58:04

this case, I went with linear gator

58:06

on switches. So here you can

58:09

see the magnetic top. That

58:11

just pops off easy

58:13

as pie, and you can swap it with any

58:15

of the other ones that they'll sell you, up

58:17

to and including some ones with a lot of

58:19

artistic design on it. If you

58:21

focus down a little bit, if you zoom

58:23

in, you'll see that there's screws on

58:26

the corners there because that underplate

58:29

is also completely and easily removable. Pop

58:31

her off, replace it with something else.

58:33

So it's not just the keys and

58:35

the keycaps or in the switches, which

58:38

also happen to be hot swappable. So

58:41

you can pretty much customize this to within

58:43

an inch of its life, if you so

58:45

desire. You can

58:47

get it with browns if you want.

58:50

I went with the yellow KS3s so that it

58:52

won't drive you insane when we're doing the podcast.

58:55

And as you can see, they're

58:57

double shot, PBT or ABS

59:00

keycaps, which are

59:02

super thick and honestly, pretty

59:04

nice. Like they've got a nice

59:06

feel to them. And because they're

59:09

linears, I mean, the actuation is just tiny,

59:11

but you can still bottom it out as

59:13

much as you want. This

59:15

is just under a foot in

59:17

length. They're just over a foot in length, fairly

59:20

svelte, but she is thick. So

59:25

as you can see, there's no feet, but it's got

59:27

enough of an angle on it that it's relatively comfortable

59:31

for that. And there you can

59:33

see it next to like an 80 percent. Also

59:36

from Drop, the Lord of the Rings one. So

59:38

yeah, you can see exactly what you're missing. The

59:43

RGBitis is slowly consuming me, and

59:46

this has a lot of

59:49

mechanical functionality to

59:51

it. So you don't even need any

59:53

software if you don't want there's got

59:55

a whole bunch of effects that

59:58

you can do just by getting certain key combinations. which

1:00:01

they give you cheat sheet for, of course. And

1:00:03

there's enough onboard memory that once you set something,

1:00:05

if you unplug it, plug it in on a

1:00:07

different machine, it's going to light up the exact

1:00:09

same way it was before. Relatively

1:00:12

nice if you love that. But

1:00:15

the drop configurator software, now

1:00:18

you get a little crazy. You can

1:00:20

configure various layers, changing

1:00:22

the lighting, changing the key mapping,

1:00:25

changing literally anything you want on

1:00:27

the thing. And it defaults to

1:00:29

about four layers, but no, don't worry.

1:00:32

You can add more if you would like. Also,

1:00:36

once you flash the firmware

1:00:38

on it to one

1:00:40

of the drops, preferred ones, or,

1:00:43

you know, switch it over to a Mac keyboard

1:00:45

layout. But you can also

1:00:47

flash a custom one if you're into

1:00:50

designing your own firmware

1:00:52

for keyboards. And I mean, there

1:00:54

are people out there that very much are. So

1:00:57

overall, I mean, I really like the

1:01:00

linear switches. They have

1:01:02

resistance to them that are quiet, and

1:01:05

clicky keyboards are fun, but eventually you just sort

1:01:08

of grow out of them, unless you're Josh. And,

1:01:11

you know, the RGB can be completely toggled

1:01:13

off, or at least dimmed to the point

1:01:15

where it's not bad. The

1:01:17

key caps are just gorgeous. I've always

1:01:19

looked strange at people that describe really

1:01:22

nice key feeling keycaps. And okay, I

1:01:24

get what you mean. I understand now. But

1:01:28

I think I would overall recommend the

1:01:30

CTSM80 for me, just

1:01:32

because, you know, I like this stuff over at

1:01:34

the far right of the keyboard. But if you're

1:01:36

into the 65% size, it's a bloody good keyboard,

1:01:42

and it's heavy enough that even though it's

1:01:44

cut down, it's not going to be sliding

1:01:46

around on you at all. And,

1:01:48

you know, you can defend yourself with

1:01:50

it. Which one would the

1:01:53

cat prefer? She liked this

1:01:55

one better. Her brother was more of a good friend. into

1:02:00

the Lord of the Rings once. Ah, okay.

1:02:02

Thank you, Jeremy. You know what?

1:02:07

It's already time for picks of the week. Josh,

1:02:10

please get us started.

1:02:17

I guess I should unmute myself first

1:02:19

from all the laughing

1:02:22

and snorkeling and

1:02:27

things that I do and yell talk

1:02:29

about security and games because security

1:02:32

shock and games

1:02:35

I don't have time for anymore even

1:02:37

though I'd love to. Anyway,

1:02:44

I was

1:02:48

working on my forearms with the direct

1:02:51

drive wheel that resistance.

1:03:02

You know, we talked a lot about

1:03:04

Intel today. Talks about

1:03:06

a lot of the bad things that they've

1:03:08

been doing in terms of their product decisions

1:03:12

and performance. And

1:03:16

you know, if you really just

1:03:18

are tired, maybe

1:03:21

go AMD route. This

1:03:24

MSI Tomahawk X670E

1:03:28

is still

1:03:31

sitting around 260 and

1:03:34

it's a solid, solid

1:03:37

motherboard. In terms of

1:03:39

features, power delivery. It

1:03:42

does a x16

1:03:44

PCI5 to the

1:03:46

graphics and

1:03:48

it does x4 PCI5.0 to the first M.2 slot

1:03:50

which is

1:03:55

kind of what you want if

1:03:58

you Feel like A... Creating

1:04:00

those things. You

1:04:03

can get a seventy eight hundred x

1:04:05

three The Foreign: Far less than four

1:04:08

hundred dollars now. And

1:04:10

if you really want an all around. Good.

1:04:13

Performing Machine. That. Excels

1:04:15

in games. This. Combination.

1:04:19

Is pretty good. Memory is

1:04:21

now super inexpensive at the

1:04:24

six thousand. Mobile. Speed.

1:04:27

so. He

1:04:29

can you sell for and.to drive

1:04:31

which is. Really good beer.

1:04:34

one will only be be peace busy

1:04:36

I for now. But

1:04:38

the other three will be be c I. Four.

1:04:41

Point L know drop off to

1:04:43

three. I think they're

1:04:45

as is, like the last piece.

1:04:48

A slot is a. Is

1:04:51

a three point now. But other than that,

1:04:54

Really? Solid. The in a

1:04:56

motherboard with good expansion you

1:04:59

can plug in a few

1:05:01

other cards is cathy two

1:05:03

point five gigabit Ethernet which

1:05:06

attacks. Expense Current.

1:05:09

So. You know, To

1:05:12

want to go that way Some

1:05:15

pretty solid. Choice.

1:05:18

For. Your motherboard. And

1:05:21

a worse And they. Are

1:05:23

constantly updating bios with other

1:05:25

things. Better.

1:05:30

Who's cooking the keyboard? Snails

1:05:34

me. Nuts Not

1:05:36

you. It is Hot. They

1:05:42

just derby do have a fix your. Diet.

1:05:45

Just sort of noxious thing that I

1:05:47

bought myself for when I upgraded my

1:05:50

cable box to the tiny new. in

1:05:53

internet of things the does not have clock

1:05:55

on it's way it got no clock in

1:05:57

my living room anymore and i decided to

1:06:00

search my and find the stupidest

1:06:02

timekeeping device I could, which

1:06:04

I really feel I've succeeded in. It is indeed a

1:06:09

googly eye clock. That

1:06:14

side takes keeps rotates on the hour

1:06:16

and that side rotates on the minute.

1:06:18

So that this is

1:06:20

why I can't take you anywhere, Jeremy.

1:06:22

Yeah. And it is the pinnacle

1:06:25

of technology. I

1:06:27

am sorry. It's just beautiful.

1:06:31

How are you gonna remember this? Like if

1:06:33

the left eye is looking inward, but the

1:06:35

right eye is kind of straight up and

1:06:38

not quite. It's 350. Come

1:06:41

on, man. It's a big hand,

1:06:43

little hand. You learned it when you're seven

1:06:45

years old. Well, I don't

1:06:47

know, Josh, you might not have. I

1:06:50

did. And I kind of see it now.

1:06:53

Yeah. Oh, come on. You see it. It makes

1:06:55

you pause and think about the time. It sees

1:06:57

you. It makes me like cross my eyes. So

1:06:59

it does. Yeah.

1:07:02

So far, everyone hates it. I love it. $30

1:07:08

Canadian. It's from Ming Chi. Yeah,

1:07:15

the highest end clock retailers on the

1:07:17

planet, I think. Absolutely.

1:07:19

At least it's battery powered and

1:07:21

doesn't ship with a, you

1:07:23

know, CE approved power brick

1:07:26

you plug in the wall. Well, it

1:07:28

is as dumb as it comes. Wow.

1:07:30

It's two separate things. Well,

1:07:33

yeah. Double A battery. Hey,

1:07:37

one eye is connected to the minute sweep, one eye

1:07:39

is connected to the hour sweep. And

1:07:41

it's even got fine adjustment if it's running a little fast

1:07:43

or slow. It's available in

1:07:46

brown or wood tone. They

1:07:49

were out of all of these. So obviously it's popular too.

1:07:52

What did you get? I could only get the white one. I got

1:07:54

the white one. Okay. It was

1:07:56

I wanted the wood green one

1:07:58

but they were. You

1:08:00

know, I can at least ask for a 125. I

1:08:04

was just going to say that, Josh. Three,

1:08:06

four. It

1:08:09

took me a minute to finally wrap

1:08:11

my brain around it. Once

1:08:13

I did, it's like, okay, that's kind

1:08:15

of easy to see. Yeah,

1:08:18

literally. All

1:08:21

right, let's go next. Brad, do you have a pick? I

1:08:24

do. If there's one thing you

1:08:26

can say about Amazon is occasionally

1:08:28

they make television shows. Sometimes

1:08:31

they're well received, sometimes not.

1:08:34

But in this case, it's been well received.

1:08:37

They usually based them on

1:08:39

an expansive IP. They

1:08:41

did that again, this time with Fallout.

1:08:44

It has resulted in increased

1:08:47

interest in the original IP,

1:08:50

the games. So go out and get

1:08:52

some. If you haven't played

1:08:54

Fallout or you're looking to buff

1:08:56

your Fallout library, now's

1:08:59

the time. GOG has got your

1:09:01

sale. Six, seven,

1:09:03

eight, nine, ten bucks. Choose

1:09:07

your level of interest. Go

1:09:10

out and pick up a Fallout game you might

1:09:12

be missing, including Game of the Year editions for

1:09:14

Fallout New Vegas or Fallout 4 or

1:09:17

3 or even the original

1:09:19

Fallout, which is available to play for

1:09:21

the whopping $2.49. More

1:09:26

tactics if you never played it. Well,

1:09:28

I heard tactics wasn't so good. I never had that one. But

1:09:32

yeah, original Fallout for barely

1:09:35

more than you can buy a soda

1:09:37

for. Well, you can get flat

1:09:39

out too. Well,

1:09:43

that just happened to match the search on

1:09:45

the map. I'm not really sure why. Anyway,

1:09:51

Fallout, fill out your library. It's

1:09:53

time. Thanks, Brad. You're

1:09:55

welcome. Kent. Kent.

1:09:58

Kent. Kent. Because we

1:10:00

just. So

1:10:02

you know. All these

1:10:05

computer components, They're not going

1:10:07

to work without power and

1:10:09

power supplies for one of

1:10:11

seems worst affected items when

1:10:13

it came to the price

1:10:15

gouging and inflation that went

1:10:17

on after cove it. But

1:10:20

they're coming back down now and

1:10:23

you can get some really good

1:10:25

power supplies at reasonable prices again.

1:10:27

And Newegg is running a sale

1:10:30

on C Sonic right now. You

1:10:32

can actually get a. Gold.

1:10:34

Rated one thousand was

1:10:37

full modular Atx three

1:10:39

point O. Power.

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Nine. The

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in. A desert not good enough,

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or if you don't need a thousand

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watts, they've got. Eight. Hundred

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and Fifty Watts Earth for One.

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Oh Nine Ninety Nine, They've got

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s Effects power supply us. I'm

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all of these are the focus

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series on ten year warranty and

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they're all really good prices right

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now. Great.

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Pics. That. That's.

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Like half of what things cost

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during your. A.

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Post covered. Ridiculous. Most

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mining for leaders I'm sure

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Jeeps years. Ps you shortages.

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The price gouging. Of people

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were trying to power all those cheap use so

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there was sort of a P a C resume

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going out of same time. I.

1:11:34

Sort of have a fix. This

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week I discovered. A

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channel and a video. I am

1:11:41

only watched the one video. I

1:11:43

don't know if he was this

1:11:46

guy or a skill, but it's

1:11:48

on you tube and earth is

1:11:50

structurally hopkinson. sorts of Sig videos.

1:11:52

They're. Basically. Imagine.

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Oh. oh

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be won quite gone and of Anakin

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all sitting around the living room. Oh,

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and there's a duke who's head and

1:12:05

hands and they're

1:12:07

all watching Star Wars episode 3

1:12:09

together and just offering

1:12:11

their own commentary and insights and Kawi-Gon

1:12:15

apparently didn't know anything

1:12:17

that happened in the movie. He wasn't paying

1:12:19

attention after his death

1:12:22

He was dead. Yes, but I

1:12:24

mean he was coming back. He had learned

1:12:27

how to maintain his individuality in

1:12:30

the netherworld But it's

1:12:32

hilarious. There's It's

1:12:35

like it has the feel of like

1:12:37

classic Mystery

1:12:39

Science theater kind of but it is

1:12:42

It's it's pretty darn funny. So I

1:12:44

definitely recommend checking that out Charlie

1:12:47

Hopkinson is the channel I think the guy

1:12:49

does all the characters himself But

1:12:52

if they are using deep fake

1:12:54

technology the best The

1:12:57

Effect was the obi-wan character.

1:12:59

I think he does the

1:13:02

best impression of you McGregor there but

1:13:05

it's Yeah,

1:13:08

anyway check it out Ian or Alex

1:13:15

Yep, anyway, that's the show for this Tune

1:13:19

in next week for another

1:13:21

episode. Thank you Thank

1:13:25

you These

1:13:27

are not the podcast you're looking

1:13:29

for looking for You

1:13:33

know 680 might have been a better show I don't

1:13:35

remember Well, it's

1:13:37

for it. It had the

1:13:39

FLM m.2 in it if you remember correctly