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What a rapidly changing civil war means for the future of Myanmar

What a rapidly changing civil war means for the future of Myanmar

Released Sunday, 5th May 2024
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What a rapidly changing civil war means for the future of Myanmar

Sunday, 5th May 2024
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Southeast Asian nation of Myanmar is on

0:02

the brink of becoming a failed state.

0:05

For three years, the nation of 54 million

0:07

people has been embroiled in an

0:10

escalating civil war between the military

0:12

junta and hundreds of pro-democracy militias,

0:14

ethnic armies and local defense forces.

0:18

Civilians are suffering. The United Nations estimates that

0:20

more than 18.5 million people desperately

0:23

need humanitarian assistance. Thousands are

0:26

fleeing the country. A

0:28

2021 military coup brought to

0:31

an abrupt end Myanmar's move

0:33

toward democracy. The widespread

0:35

peaceful protests that followed were put

0:37

down by the junta with a

0:39

brutal crackdown. Scores of opposition protesters

0:41

fled the cities for the mountainous

0:43

jungles that make up much of

0:45

the country. Pro-democracy

0:48

militias and armed ethnic groups united

0:50

with the common goal of overthrowing

0:52

the junta. Last month, rebel

0:54

forces took control of a key

0:56

economic hub that was responsible for

0:58

$1 billion in trade last year.

1:01

It's among the latest in a long

1:03

line of junta defeats over the last

1:05

six months that has left resistance groups

1:07

in control of a significant part of

1:09

the country. Earlier, I spoke with Burmese-American

1:11

journalist, A. Minh Taunt, about the current

1:13

situation in Myanmar. Five E.K.

1:16

has really escalated in Myanmar since October of 2023,

1:18

where Myanmar saw large resistance

1:22

forces really coalesce and form

1:24

an ally ship and launch

1:26

a coordinated attack against the

1:29

military on multiple fronts. And

1:31

since then, major gains were made, especially

1:33

along the border regions, along major trade

1:36

routes, and in several cases, trade

1:38

towns and trade routes were able to be shut

1:40

down. Although the military

1:43

has regained control of some of these

1:45

areas, they have been dramatically

1:47

weakened. Who are these groups that

1:49

are fighting the junta military? Who

1:51

are they and what do they want? So,

1:54

there's various groups that are fighting the military. There are

1:56

what are called ethnic armed organizations,

1:59

which are are made of ethnic

2:01

groups that were essentially thrown into the

2:03

country of Myanmar together for the first

2:05

time through British colonization, but

2:07

really have a long history

2:09

of being individual, political entities.

2:11

And they've been fighting for independence

2:13

in some cases, or more legal

2:16

rights in other cases, and

2:18

in some cases, this complete separation from

2:21

the country of Myanmar proper. And

2:24

in addition to that, there are also multiple

2:26

groups that have come

2:28

to being since the coup, mostly

2:31

made out of farmers and students

2:34

and other young people from the

2:36

ethnic majority group who, since the

2:38

coup, have turned towards violent revolution

2:40

as a way to negate

2:42

the effects of the coup and try to

2:44

turn the country back towards democracy. Is

2:47

there enough common ground among these groups

2:49

beyond just defeating the

2:51

military junta, that if

2:53

they were to prevail, would they be able to establish

2:56

a government? Right now, there

2:58

is a common enemy in the military, but it's

3:01

unclear that this, the military,

3:03

were to fall tomorrow, that these groups

3:05

would be able to coalesce into a

3:07

form of government or even some sort

3:09

of interim government in order to lead

3:12

the country back into a unified whole.

3:14

On one hand, there is a civilian

3:16

shadow government that has formed since the coup,

3:18

but they don't necessarily have the buy-in of

3:22

a number of ethnic groups and

3:24

ethnic organizations that felt that

3:26

their parties, even when the civilian

3:28

government was in control, that

3:31

they really respected and saw various

3:33

ethnic groups as their equals. So

3:35

this fight has been going on for about

3:38

three years. What's been the effect

3:40

on the civilian population? The

3:42

UN Refugee Agency estimates that over 2.5

3:44

million people have now been displaced internally

3:47

in the country since the beginning of

3:49

the coup and over 100,000 people have

3:51

been displaced into

3:53

neighboring countries. And that's, of

3:55

course, not counting nearly 1 million Rohingya refugees

3:57

who were displaced in previous waves of war.

4:00

military by the way. How much

4:02

support are the displaced people, not

4:04

only within Myanmar, but who fled

4:06

Myanmar? How much support are they

4:08

getting? So various humanitarian organizations are

4:10

trying to still function in Myanmar

4:12

and distribute aid. Unfortunately, in order

4:14

for them to operate, they are

4:16

forced to essentially collaborate with the

4:18

military. And in many cases, the

4:20

military prevents these organizations from being

4:22

able to go to certain areas,

4:25

citing security concerns to distribute aid.

4:27

The surrounding countries, Thailand, India, Laos,

4:30

and China don't provide very much aid

4:32

to refugees, if any at all. Thailand

4:34

does not recognize refugees as a class.

4:37

The same holds true largely in India as well,

4:39

where the Modi administration is not happy with

4:41

the amount of refugees that are coming into

4:44

the country. Bangladesh has

4:46

really closed its borders as much as it

4:48

can to additional refugees from Myanmar. And

4:50

the border along Laos and China has also

4:53

been really on guard since COVID and has

4:55

largely not been trying to accept refugees as

4:57

well. The United Nations has

5:00

described the human rights situation in

5:02

Myanmar as a never-ending nightmare. Who's

5:04

committing these? Are these one side or the

5:06

other that's committing these human rights violations? So

5:09

according to monitoring organizations, the vast,

5:11

vast majority of human rights abuses

5:14

are being committed by the military.

5:16

The military is engaging

5:18

in extrajudicial killings. Over 50,000

5:20

people have been killed since

5:22

the coup, either

5:25

through torture, extrajudicial

5:27

killings, airstrikes, war,

5:30

arson. The military also

5:32

engages in airstrikes on largely protective

5:34

places like schools, hospitals, and religious

5:36

sites. There's a weaponization

5:39

of arson, burning down of

5:41

entire villages, rape as a weapon

5:43

of war. And lately, we're also

5:45

seeing a lot of forced recruitment by

5:47

the military. On the other hand, we

5:50

are also seeing human rights abuses from

5:52

the resistance side. There have

5:54

been reports of extrajudicial killings,

5:56

especially of people who have been

5:58

accused of being informants. for the military

6:01

or people who are seen as

6:03

collaborators who are not necessarily armed

6:05

combatants. What's the road ahead

6:07

look like? Is it possible that one side

6:09

or another could prevail or is this just

6:11

going to be a deadlock? So

6:14

the fighting has been going on for three years, but

6:16

we've really seen a lot of big moves

6:18

in the last six months, despite the fact

6:20

that the conscription law has existed for many

6:22

years at this point. This is the first

6:24

time in history that it's been used. And

6:27

analysts have taken this as a sign that this

6:29

means that the military is quite desperate to try

6:31

to fill up strength, especially as they're starting to

6:34

lose more and more battles. So

6:36

what started off as largely

6:39

young, untrained people, many of whom grew

6:41

up in cities and have never touched

6:43

the weapon, people who were largely farmers

6:46

using homemade weapons and commercial

6:48

drones, have now turned into

6:51

pretty battle-hardened troops who have

6:53

gotten their hands onto military

6:55

weapons. A. Mintant, thank you

6:58

very much. Thank you for having me.

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