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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. Today we have a

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very special event. Many Americans

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are calling the 2024 election

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the most important of our generation.

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The future of our great nation

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hangs in the balance. Today

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Valuetainment is hosting our second town

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hall with a candidate who comes

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from one of America's most iconic

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political dynasties. His commitment

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to justice and government transparency has

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ignited the spirit of positive change

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in millions of voters. But

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first, please help me welcome to the

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stage a best-selling author who coached us

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through our next five moves and is

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now teaching us to choose our enemies

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wisely. Put your hands

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together right now for the founder

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and CEO of Valuetainment and my

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friend, Patrick Bett David! How

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you doing? Okay.

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Grab seats,

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grab seats. So,

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the format is going to be an interesting, I've been looking forward

1:06

to this for a while. There's a couple of things I want

1:08

you to know before we get started. One,

1:11

I will go through my questions. Some of

1:13

you have given your questions to

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Kelly. I will come through, whenever it comes time

1:17

for you to come up, you will simply walk

1:19

up over here. If Vinny hasn't already

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told you, you'll ask your question to the candidate,

1:24

Bobby, and we will take it from there. But

1:26

I want to properly introduce Bobby from

1:28

my point of view, not the one that

1:30

a lot of other people maybe know him

1:32

of. Of course, we all know the last

1:34

name, Kennedy. It's one of the greatest last

1:36

names in American history, political history. When you

1:38

say, what is the most popular, famous last

1:40

name in America, Kennedy's going to be on

1:42

that list. If you talk about somebody that

1:45

a lot of people claim they want to make the

1:47

environment better, only a few people

1:49

dedicated decades of their lives being an environmental

1:51

lawyer, that's what he's done. I

1:54

can go on and on and on talking

1:56

about it. Imagine you being raised in an

1:58

environment where your father was a sassinist. Your

2:00

uncle, who was a president, was assassinated. Your father

2:02

is supposed to be a president.

2:05

He gets assassinated. He got all this

2:07

stuff going on, and you choose to

2:09

leave the Democratic Party to run as an independent.

2:11

No one in Thanksgiving is going to be awkward

2:14

with your family where everyone's going to say, what

2:16

are you doing? We're Democrats. We're

2:18

Kennedys. You're not supposed to be doing this. There's a lot of

2:20

things I can say about that, but I just want to tell

2:22

you a story about why I

2:24

realized who this man was. We may not

2:26

agree on everything politically. You're not supposed to.

2:29

But I knew he was a true believer. Three

2:32

and a half years ago, maybe four years ago,

2:35

I'm in Dallas. He's going to

2:37

remember this. He may remember this. I'm

2:39

in Dallas, and Jennifer comes up

2:41

to me telling me, babe, Seno's got to

2:43

get all her vaccine

2:45

shots. I said, and? Well,

2:48

I'm trying to get an exemption, and

2:50

they're giving us a hard time on some of the vaccines. I

2:53

don't want to get what we got. The kid's going to a private school. You can do whatever

2:55

you want to do with this. She says, no, babe, they're not

2:57

letting me do this. I said, well, it's 11 o'clock at night, by the

2:59

way. I said, let me text Bobby. He'll probably

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get back to me tomorrow, and maybe he's got any kind

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of feedback to give me. I

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text him, okay? We

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go to sleep. We're ready to go to sleep. Boom!

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Two minutes later, he's calling me. I said, Bobby,

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what's going on? I said, Patrick, you can't do this. Let me tell

3:15

you why. He's on the phone with

3:17

me telling me what to do and what not to do

3:19

and what options to consider as a parent. Then he's

3:21

three-waying other people, and for 45 minutes, we're on the phone,

3:23

and you're trying to figure out what to do with it.

3:26

I get off the phone. It's midnight. I said,

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we're in Texas. Texas is not Eastern Standard

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Time. He lives in the East Coast. Maybe

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he wasn't there, but, babe, this

3:35

guy just spent 45 minutes of his evening

3:37

on the phone. We've never broke

3:39

bread. It's not like I'm part of the family. We're

3:41

best friends. We're hanging out all the time. We've never

3:43

had that kind of a relationship. We met a couple

3:45

times. We've done a couple podcasts together, shows together. In

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that moment, I knew this man was a

3:50

true believer. Obviously, two years later, he announces

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that he's running. So, whether you agree with

3:54

his policies or not, there's a lot of

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things we'll question here today. There's

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a lot of things we'll talk about today. You have to

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respect the fact that this is not just

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a man that writes a book to sell

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copies. He actually believes in what he talks

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about. Having said that, please stand up and

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put your hands together for the one and

4:11

only Robert Kennedy, Jr. Thank

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you, thank

4:19

you, thank

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you. Okay,

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you're about to see, fantastic.

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Kelly, are you going to be the one that's going to

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be leading them to go over there? Is that what the

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setup's going to be? Fantastic, okay. Okay, thank you. So let's

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get right into it. How you doing, brother? How are you

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feeling? Very well. You're good?

4:43

Yeah. Okay, so I got the

4:45

topics to go through. Before even getting into it today,

4:47

it seems like the political climate is changing all the

4:49

time. There's a lot of different

4:51

things going on. We have a GOP debate going

4:53

on tonight that's taking place, I believe, in Alabama. Last

4:56

week DeSantis and Newsom had a debate

4:58

together, and they're having different

5:00

discussions. The first opening question I'll ask you is

5:03

with that debate, here's

5:05

a man, possibly the

5:07

best governor in the way they

5:09

handled COVID, Governor

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DeSantis of Florida, he caused me to come down here

5:14

because I felt very free being here, who's

5:17

a presidential candidate, okay?

5:20

He's coming up with somebody who is not

5:22

a candidate. He's on a lot of stories, people

5:24

saying he is, he's not, you know, Biden's going

5:26

to step down, it's going to be Newsom doing

5:28

it, you know, Kamala's in the way, but Newsom's

5:30

the one that's going to be president and so

5:32

I'm not going to be doing it. The

5:35

debate takes place on every

5:37

fact. DeSantis

5:40

had the edge on the results in the

5:42

state of Florida versus California. Results

5:45

came back at 52% Newsom winning. Your

5:50

thoughts on watching that debate with

5:52

DeSantis and Newsom, did you watch

5:54

it saying a candidate running against a

5:56

non-candidate, did you have an opinion about it, was that the

5:58

right one, was that the right one? not the right move.

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What were your thoughts when you saw that last week? Well,

6:04

I have to be clear. I did not see the

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debate. Okay. Oh, I,

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um, my wife, I was traveling at

6:11

the time. My wife

6:13

Cheryl watched the debate and my

6:15

kids watched the debate and you

6:17

know, there I've known, um, I

6:20

know Governor DeSantis

6:23

and I admired the way that he

6:25

handled COVID. I thought it was, you

6:28

know, he, he took

6:31

the three greatest epidemiologists

6:33

and, and biosatisticians and,

6:37

um, and medical researchers in the country.

6:39

And he, he did something nobody else

6:41

in the country did, which is he

6:43

brought them to California and he said,

6:45

you know, what should

6:47

we be doing? What are the alternatives the

6:49

government is telling us in this? And

6:52

he really, he allowed us signed a debate that

6:54

occurred and that's what we should have been doing

6:56

everywhere you want pandemic management to

6:58

be transparent. You want it to be open

7:01

to debate. You want people who disagree with

7:03

it to be able to talk about it.

7:05

And that was not happening. And

7:08

I commend Governor DeSantis for that. I think

7:10

the management of

7:12

the debate in California was probably

7:15

pandemic. California was among the worst,

7:17

was the worst in our country.

7:19

They kept, they

7:21

extended the lockdowns further than anybody

7:24

else. The children were worse

7:26

damaged than anybody else. We're seeing that now

7:28

that our mask wars have plummeted. All of

7:30

these, we now have all of these learning

7:32

delays, speech delays. The

7:35

CDC actually has

7:38

been forced to

7:40

recalibrate its, uh,

7:43

its milestones. So the CDC provides

7:45

milestones that children, for example, children

7:47

are supposed to be able to

7:49

walk at

7:51

12 months and they're supposed to

7:53

have a 30, 50 words by

7:55

18 months. changed

8:00

as so children, normal

8:02

children, have walked by

8:05

18 months and

8:07

that they have 50 years, 50 words

8:09

by I think 36 months.

8:13

So they normalized the injuries

8:15

that they did to our

8:17

children during the lockdown by

8:20

simply changing the milestones. And

8:23

you know the worst head off was California.

8:26

I've known Governor Newsom for

8:29

decades. I knew his dad. I think

8:33

that he is a very

8:35

very formidable debater. He's very,

8:38

I think, you know, he's got

8:40

kind of everything. He's got every

8:43

gift. He's very

8:45

attractive. He's very eloquent.

8:48

He's articulate about the way

8:50

he talks. But

8:52

I do think that he has a very difficult

8:54

record to defend

8:57

in California. So I

8:59

don't know exactly what happened to the debate, but

9:01

a lot of times the

9:04

debates are, people judge

9:07

the debate based upon how you

9:09

carry yourself and he really, you

9:11

know, he is

9:15

an all-star at how he presents

9:17

himself to the public. So I think that probably helps

9:19

him a lot. Do you think he'd be a good

9:21

president for the United States? I

9:23

know, you know, looking at what's happened in

9:25

California, I don't

9:28

think it's right for the United States right now. I

9:31

think, you know, I've been to, I spent

9:34

a year, almost a year in San

9:37

Francisco, arguing

9:40

them on San-Toh cases. So we went to

9:42

court with about, I think we had 2,400

9:44

cases of mainly home

9:47

gardeners who

9:49

had gotten on Hodgkin's lymphoma from

9:51

using Roundup. And the

9:54

way that you, all of those

9:56

cases, our cases were consolidated with

9:58

cases from about three other law

10:00

firms in front

10:02

of judges in California. So with

10:05

the way that multi-district litigation works,

10:07

you try those cases one at

10:09

a time and usually after you

10:11

try three or four or five

10:13

of them, the defendant comes

10:16

to the negotiating table. You know now the

10:18

value of each of those cases. And

10:21

the defendant comes to the negotiating table and they settle

10:23

all of them. By the end, we had about 40,000

10:25

cases. We

10:29

tried three in a row. The first

10:31

one we won 89 million on. The

10:34

second one the jury gave us 289 million. The

10:38

third one we asked for a billion.

10:41

It was a couple with both gun

10:43

on Hodgkin's lymphoma. They both did a

10:45

home gardening together. They sprayed round up

10:47

every day. They had

10:49

a Labrador Retriever who came with them

10:51

every day when they gardened. The Labrador

10:54

Retriever got on Hodgkin's lymphoma and both

10:56

of them were diagnosed at the same

10:58

time the Labrador died. And

11:01

the jury gave, we asked the jury for a

11:03

billion dollars and they came back with $2.2 billion.

11:07

And at that point, Monsanto

11:09

came to the negotiating table and we

11:11

settled all the cases. But I had

11:13

to stay in San Francisco for a

11:16

better part of a year. Arguing

11:18

those cases. Every

11:21

morning I went

11:23

to Union Square to

11:25

exercise before court. There's

11:27

a gym there. And Union

11:29

Square in San Francisco is

11:31

like Fifth Avenue in New

11:34

York. It has all of

11:36

the big American brands. It

11:38

has Nordstroms, Bloomingdale's,

11:40

Macy's, Gap, Old

11:43

Navy, Levi. And it has the big

11:45

foreign brands, the big flagship

11:47

stores for the De La Valley, Prada,

11:51

Gucci, Ferragama, Burberry. People

11:54

come from all over the world to shop there. I

11:56

went there a month ago and every one

11:59

of those stores are shut down. It's just

12:01

acre after acre plywood because of the chaos

12:03

in the streets. And

12:06

it's not hygienic. A

12:09

lot of people would say it's not safe. There's

12:13

open-air drug markets. And

12:15

it's a combination of things that have

12:18

caused that. It's high housing prices, and

12:20

it was the lockdowns. And

12:22

I think the management is

12:26

in California from the state government and

12:28

the city government and San Francisco has

12:30

been on, is not a winning record.

12:32

Let me just put it that way.

12:36

And I think it's a very, very hard record for a

12:38

governor to run on. Do you by any chance, I mean,

12:40

you have to be a strategist when you're talking to your

12:42

group. Do you have, I'm sure the right

12:44

answer is going to be, well, we're just going to talk about

12:47

what our values and principles are. And that's what we're going to

12:49

talk about policies. Do you at all

12:51

think President Biden's going to be the candidate on the left

12:53

at the end? I don't

12:55

know. Okay. I watched the debate

12:57

with President

12:59

Trump last night on Hannity,

13:02

and he was asked that

13:04

question. And he said he

13:06

did not believe that President

13:08

Biden was going to make it

13:10

to the end. And

13:14

I think by that he meant that he would

13:16

drop out at some point, or maybe, if he

13:18

were going

13:20

to drop out, the

13:23

time to drop out would be during

13:25

the convention, because then he would, he

13:27

would control the delegates because they're all

13:29

Biden delegates. And

13:32

he would then be able to pick his successor. But

13:34

I don't know anything I say

13:37

about it is speculation. I try not

13:39

to speculate. But

13:41

I don't, you know, I

13:44

don't feel like he is,

13:46

that he has, let me put it

13:48

this way, the energy that

13:51

we need at this point to run the

13:53

country during a period of our history that

13:55

is, you know, very

13:57

challenging. The world is, you know. where

14:01

in all kinds of wars we

14:03

actually are, you know, people are

14:05

actually talking about using nuclear weapons

14:07

now and, uh, critique

14:10

tactical nuclear weapons for the first time

14:12

in my life since I was a

14:14

kid, since, you know, the sixties. And during

14:16

that, I was, uh, I was

14:19

about nine years old during the Cuban Missile

14:21

Crisis in 1962. The U, I have eleven

14:26

brothers and sisters, there were eleven of us. And

14:29

the U.S. Marshals came to our

14:31

house, there's a thirteen day period during the

14:33

Cuban Missile Crisis when a lot of Americans

14:35

felt that we may all, you know, wake

14:37

up dead the next day. We were,

14:40

we were the closest in human

14:42

history that we had ever come to global

14:45

annihilation. And, um,

14:47

the U.S. Marshals came to our

14:49

house to take myself and

14:51

my elder brother Joe to a,

14:53

uh, to

14:56

an underground city in the Blue

14:58

Ridge Mountains in West Virginia. It's

15:00

a place where

15:03

the whole, they have, they

15:05

have places with the whole

15:07

government to weather the, you

15:09

know, a, a nuclear, a

15:11

thermonuclear cataclysm. And

15:13

I had heard about it and

15:16

I thought I really wanted to see

15:18

the place. You know, there was, there's

15:20

apparently there were McDonald's there. This was

15:22

when McDonald's was just invented and there

15:25

were, there was shopping centers and all kinds

15:27

of stuff. And I, you know, we had

15:29

watched science fiction films and watched the, you

15:31

know, this dystopian, um,

15:33

you know, a science fiction

15:36

depiction. So I wanted to go there. My

15:39

father called us. He

15:41

spent 13 days on a cot at the White

15:43

House during that period.

15:45

And he called us because he knew the U.S.

15:47

Marshals were there and he said, you can't go

15:50

with them. And he said, um, he said,

15:53

number one, if you don't show up at our

15:55

Lady of Iptres school, everybody in the country is

15:57

going to know about it and they're going to

15:59

pay. And so you have

16:01

to be good soldiers and show up at school. He

16:05

also said to us during

16:08

that phone call, if there is a nuclear

16:10

exchange, it would be better to be the

16:12

people who are dead than the people who

16:14

are left. And that's how

16:16

he was looking at it. I didn't agree

16:18

with that, by the way, but that's how

16:20

he was looking at it at the time.

16:22

And I think that kind of fear that

16:24

he had about the

16:26

use, the first use of a nuclear

16:28

weapon, is something

16:31

that we are not seeing in

16:34

these kind of anonymous men and lanyards,

16:37

men and women, who are now making

16:39

these calls from the White House. And

16:43

that worries me a lot that they're not,

16:45

that these are people we don't even know

16:47

who they are. Because

16:51

I think the

16:54

people who are calling the shots on foreign

16:56

policy are not making good judgments right now.

16:59

That was supposed to happen under Trump, a lot of people said.

17:01

When Trump was running, everybody thought there was going to be a

17:03

nuclear war, and it was actually a time of peace. And the

17:05

person that was supposed to bring all of us together, that's when

17:07

the chaos have been. So

17:09

a lot of people think about that. But let's talk

17:11

about you as a candidate, as an independent candidate. A

17:13

lot of times when we think about third party independent

17:15

candidate, we typically go to Ross Perot.

17:18

And we'll go to Ross Perot, he went to 19%, and

17:21

he would get up with his charts and show what he showed.

17:23

And in George Bush Sr.'s documentary, which is a

17:26

great documentary to watch, there's only one thing he

17:28

wouldn't comment on. And matter of fact, he got

17:30

upset. And that's to stop the interview

17:32

with the camera when they asked him about Ross

17:34

Perot. Because it was due to Ross Perot that

17:37

Sr. became a one term president. That's

17:40

what a lot of people will say. And Ross

17:42

Perot allowed Clinton to become a president. The same

17:45

story can be said about Teddy Roosevelt, which you talk

17:47

about a lot. Teddy's one of the better presidents we've

17:49

had in our history. But at

17:51

one point, he was also reason to help Woodrow

17:54

Wilson become a president at the time

17:56

when he was running. And

17:58

both of those candidates are not going to be able

18:00

to do that. help a liberal become a president. So

18:03

that is typically, we'll go back, look at a case

18:05

setting, we said, but this kind of looks like the

18:07

trajectory where you're at today. When

18:09

you hear people say, according to

18:12

data, this is just what the numbers

18:14

will tell us. If it's just Trump

18:16

against Biden, Biden has a one point

18:18

lead. Okay, if it's just them going

18:20

up against each other, this is the

18:22

Quinnipiac numbers that

18:24

came up. But if it's you, Trump,

18:28

against Biden, he has

18:30

a three or four percent lead, which

18:33

means you're helping Biden out. What

18:35

do you say to the people who like your

18:37

power, who like many of your policies, who like

18:40

the fact that you're pushing the establishment, but at

18:42

the same time, aren't you just

18:44

kind of helping President Biden become a

18:46

president again and get reelected? Well,

18:49

I mean, you know, my, my

18:52

purpose is to win the election. So

18:54

I want to spoil the election for

18:57

President Biden and President Trump. My

19:00

numbers right now are better than any

19:02

independent candidate in a hundred years at

19:04

this point in the election. So, you

19:07

know, you have to go back to

19:09

Teddy Roosevelt and we don't

19:11

really have even good polls for where he was

19:13

at this point. But you know, Teddy Roosevelt had

19:15

been president and

19:18

made a commitment to not run for

19:20

president at the outset. And then his,

19:25

his vice president, who he was very close

19:28

to and they were politically aligned, President Taft,

19:31

ran to replace him. And in the middle of

19:33

it, he in the middle of the election, he

19:35

got frustrated

19:38

and announced his

19:40

own run as a, as

19:43

a bull moose party. And he had, you know,

19:45

he did take the election away

19:48

from Taft and gave it to Woodrow Wilson.

19:50

I wouldn't call Woodrow Wilson a liberal. I

19:54

think Woodrow Wilson was very

19:56

regressive on a lot of, on most

19:59

of his policies. to use the one thing that he

20:01

promised to do is

20:03

to keep the country out of war, which is

20:06

a promise that he violated, that he got in

20:08

there and got us into World War I. So

20:13

my polls right now, I'm

20:15

beating both candidates in all

20:17

Americans under 45 years old. In

20:21

Americans under 35 years old, I'm beating

20:23

them both by 10 points. I'm

20:26

up to now 24% average

20:31

in the battleground states, which puts

20:33

me within 10 points of winning

20:35

the election. I only have

20:37

to win a third

20:39

of the votes to win the election. One

20:41

vote over a third. So I

20:45

can win the election theoretically with 34%. And

20:49

I'm already at 24% in key states like

20:51

Michigan. I think I'm up to 26 or 27. And

20:55

I have almost a full year. And this

20:58

is with spending very, very little money

21:00

compared to them. I'm

21:02

leading with independent voters. I'm at 36

21:05

with independent voters. And President Trump

21:07

is at 27, I think. And

21:11

President Biden is at 31. I'm

21:16

leading. We're essentially in a

21:18

three-way tie with Hispanic voters. The

21:21

only voters that I don't do well

21:23

with. I'm leading everybody

21:26

with mothers who have children at home.

21:28

So the mothers of children with under

21:30

18. The only

21:32

group that I don't do well in are

21:35

baby boomers. And

21:37

I believe that the reason I can't

21:39

prove this, I

21:42

believe that the reason that I'm not doing well

21:44

with them is that they

21:46

get their news from television,

21:48

from MSNBC, from CNN, and

21:51

then from the New York Times and the Washington Post.

21:54

And if that was

21:57

the news bubble that I was living in,

21:59

I would have a very low opinion

22:01

of myself as well. Those

22:04

news outlets will not let me on. They

22:06

will not

22:08

let me debate. They won't let

22:11

me talk. They will not give

22:13

a live interview with me.

22:17

Sometimes a couple of them have said,

22:19

we'll interview you, but it will be

22:21

live to tape, which means they can

22:23

interview me for 20 minutes and take

22:26

a 10-second sound bite out of that

22:29

to distort or whatever. I

22:33

think that's beginning to change. I now, we're

22:35

seeing changes in that

22:37

and I believe, like my kids, I have

22:39

seven kids, and

22:41

I would believe that none of

22:44

them have

22:46

ever watched an evening news on

22:49

TV. They get their news from

22:51

other sources. They get it from the internet. They

22:53

get it from podcasts, et cetera. And

22:56

in that generation, I am dominating. What

23:00

we're seeing anecdotally is

23:02

that people who watch

23:04

my interviews, long-form interviews,

23:08

even liberal Democrats, have a very, very

23:10

high conversion. My strategy over

23:12

the next 11

23:15

months is to get as many

23:17

of those people to be able to see interviews with

23:19

me, to ask me

23:22

questions, and to

23:24

get to know something

23:26

about me that's outside this kind of disservice stew

23:29

of defamations and pejoratives

23:31

that define me in

23:34

the mainstream media. But I'm very confident that

23:36

we're going to win the race. I don't

23:38

think I'm running against

23:40

the two, I think,

23:42

weakest candidates in

23:44

American history. President Trump

23:46

has a very, very intense following, but

23:51

it's relatively small. And President Biden, there's

23:53

almost nobody that I've met. In

23:56

fact, I can say I've never met

23:58

anybody so far. Lewis

24:01

says you should vote for President

24:03

Biden because he has a great

24:06

vision for the country that he's

24:08

energetic, that he can grapple with

24:10

the big problems. They all

24:13

say you've got to vote for him because

24:15

otherwise Trump is going to start a dictatorship.

24:18

And we've got to do more. The Democratic

24:20

Party has to do more than just offer

24:23

people the last of two evils. And

24:29

say to them and appeal

24:31

to their fear, hey, young

24:33

kids, and I who are following me are

24:35

people who want hope for their future. They

24:38

want a vision for our country. They want

24:40

to be proud of our country. There

24:44

was a poll taken in 2013 and showed

24:47

that Americans between 18 and

24:49

35 years old and

24:52

asked, 85% said

24:55

they were proud of the United States of America. The

24:58

same poll taken last month of the

25:00

same group of people, only 18% said

25:03

they were proud of our country.

25:05

To me, that's the most heartbreaking data point

25:07

I've seen since this began. You've got a

25:10

whole generation of kids who've

25:12

lost faith in the United States of

25:14

America and they've lost any hope that

25:16

they have for their kids sometime in

25:18

the last eight years. During

25:22

the administrations of the two people I'm running

25:24

against, this generation has

25:26

completely lost hope. We've

25:28

got to offer them something

25:30

better than you should be scared of the other

25:32

guy. We have to tell them they're going to

25:34

be able to buy a home, that

25:37

our moral authority as a

25:40

nation is going to be restored, that

25:42

we're going to rebuild the middle class

25:44

in this country, that we're going to

25:47

end the chronic disease epidemic that is

25:49

debilitating to 60% of the

25:51

people in their generation, that we're

25:54

going to end this corrupt merger of state

25:56

and corporate power that has left all of

25:58

our country. regulatory

26:00

agencies as captives of the industries

26:02

they're supposed to regulate as predators

26:04

against the people of this country.

26:08

And I'm running against two

26:11

guys, two men, former presidents

26:13

who both say they're running on

26:15

the idea that they brought tremendous

26:18

prosperity to our country. And

26:21

I sit at kitchen tables with people a

26:23

lot, with regular Americans. I did this before

26:26

I ran because I represent them in law

26:28

suits. And

26:30

when you tell people you're

26:32

experiencing this extraordinary prosperity right

26:34

now, they feel like they're

26:36

being gaslighted. There's

26:39

nobody in that generation. There's nobody

26:42

who's under 20, who's under 30 years

26:45

old who thinks that they're ever going to buy a house.

26:48

The housing price have gone from $215 two years ago. $400,000

26:54

today and the interest rates have gone from three to

26:56

almost 8%. And

26:59

corporations are buying the houses, but kids

27:02

are not. Oh, and we've got

27:04

to offer them something different. We've got to

27:06

do something different to let

27:08

these kids have a hope in

27:10

our country and their own future again. I

27:13

think there's another reason why boomers, you don't do well

27:15

with boomers. The day, I'll tell you,

27:17

I think you're not, your marketing team's got to

27:19

pay attention to this. Hey, you took

27:22

your shirt off and started doing pushups. You pissed off

27:24

a lot of boomers. Yes or

27:26

no. I think when people saw how jacked he

27:28

was, they're like, wait a minute, take that video

27:30

away from my wife. I don't want people to

27:32

see this. Honey, how come you can't bench like

27:35

Bobby Kemp? Anyways, that's just my speculation. A little

27:37

bit of research. So let's go to this with

27:39

the independence of becoming a president. 2020,

27:43

it was estimated that the two major party nominees spend $1.4

27:46

billion on their campaign.

27:49

Okay. So that's up from

27:51

1.1 billion in 16 and 660 in 2012. They're

27:54

saying it's going to be around $2 billion today. Some are even saying it's

27:56

going to be around three to $4 billion. You

27:58

raised $8.7 million. million on the last

28:01

quarter. Tony Lyons, who was co-founder

28:03

of the American Value, said he'll pledge $15

28:06

million. And then at the same time, this is all

28:08

great when you're going around saying, you know, you're getting

28:10

$5, $10 donations. If we wanted to do $5 donations

28:17

to get to $1 billion for you

28:19

to run for office, you would need

28:21

200 million people, Americans, to donate

28:23

$5. And then at the same time, that includes

28:25

the last time we had around $150, $1,750,

28:29

whatever amount of people that voted. So there's a lot

28:31

of people that, how are you going to raise that

28:33

kind of money to run for office while many

28:36

billionaires are sitting there or even guys that are

28:38

willing to put the packs, they're saying, am

28:41

I going to go here? You see Ken Griffin,

28:43

they're leaning towards Nikki Haley. You're seeing, you know,

28:45

even Jamie Dimon leaning towards, you know, do you

28:47

feel you need to take money from some of

28:49

these folks? Like, do you feel you need to

28:51

raise real money to get there? And is there

28:53

anybody you wouldn't take money from such

28:55

as Pfizer? Yeah, I

28:58

don't think I have to worry about Pfizer giving

29:00

me money and turning it down. What if one

29:03

day they say we endorse RFP if you change

29:05

your book? You know what,

29:07

listen, they're not going to do that. But

29:10

I'm going to, you know,

29:13

I mean, they'd be fired by their board if

29:15

they did that. They could

29:17

be a Babylon, be storied though. They should

29:19

be. But on the

29:22

answer to your question, to your

29:24

broader question is, first of

29:28

all, I've outraised last quarter, I

29:30

outraised both President Trump and President

29:33

Biden with my campaign did.

29:36

And I don't know exactly what the numbers are, but

29:39

we raised over $8 million

29:41

and I think they raised six and five. That's

29:44

the campaign. The campaign has a

29:47

maximum donation level of $6,600 under

29:50

federal law. Oh,

29:52

and it's what we did

29:54

there is the hardest thing to do, which is to raise

29:57

small dollar donations. out

30:00

with a list of only 150,000 people, we get about $38

30:02

per name per quarter. Bernie

30:11

had about 13 million people. Oh,

30:14

he didn't have to raise any corporate money because

30:17

he was getting 20 or 30 bucks a

30:20

person per quarter and just do that math,

30:22

you know, if you get in your head and

30:24

he didn't need corporate money. He

30:27

didn't need billionaire money, so you can do it.

30:29

You know, what we need is to build our

30:31

list size and that's one of the things that

30:33

we're doing.

30:36

And the superbacks, the big

30:38

money that you were talking about is coming

30:40

not through the campaign, it's coming from the

30:42

superbacks. We

30:44

are not allowed to coordinate, but it's against

30:47

the law for us to coordinate it. But

30:49

the superbacks try to look at what you're

30:51

doing and do what you would

30:53

want them to do. It's

30:55

a messed up system. I'm not defending it. I'm

30:57

just saying how it works. And

31:00

the superback that that superback

31:02

you mentioned, which

31:05

is the American values super pack has

31:07

raised somewhat something close. I don't know

31:10

exactly up to $30 million. So

31:12

we're getting real money come in. And

31:14

by the way, with that 8 million

31:16

that we add, we

31:18

are now beating President Biden and President

31:21

Trump in young people for beating them

31:23

with independence. The key demographics and we're

31:25

beating them with a lot of others.

31:29

And that's with me only running for the past

31:31

six and a half months. So I have 11

31:33

months in front of me. And

31:36

I feel like, you know, with a tiny fraction of

31:38

the money they make that I can win the election.

31:40

But we're going to we're going to get money. We're

31:43

going to money is coming in now. And

31:47

you know, and we will and

31:49

you know, we'll have enough money to put on a

31:52

real national campaign and to get

31:54

on the ballot. It's causes $15

31:57

million to get on the ballot in every state.

32:00

President Trump and President Biden don't have to do

32:02

that, because the Democratic Party and the Republican

32:05

Party are already on the ballot. So

32:07

we have to do something they can't

32:09

do. And what they're going to do

32:12

is try to stop me from getting

32:14

on the ballot by putting legal impediments

32:16

and doing everything they can to make

32:19

sure that the American people don't get

32:21

a choice. And

32:23

you know, what I would say to you

32:25

is that whether you're a

32:27

Republican or Democrat, whether you like me or

32:30

somebody else, that Americans should have that choice.

32:33

And one of the things that you can do is to

32:35

go to our website, kennedy24.com, and you can

32:40

sign a ballot petition from your state

32:42

on that website. So

32:45

even if you don't intend to vote for

32:47

me in the end, I think, and if

32:49

you do believe in American democracy and believe

32:51

that it's beneficial for a democracy to have

32:53

as many choices as possible, please go and

32:56

sign that petition. Next

32:58

question. Big Pharma is something

33:00

that is probably

33:03

one of your biggest enemies, if not your

33:05

biggest enemy. When you said they're not going to

33:07

endorse me, of course they're not going to endorse you because you've

33:09

kind of gone in their way. You've called

33:11

them out. I remember I got a

33:14

strike for one of the interviews we did with you,

33:16

by the way, years ago when we had you on.

33:18

You remember that when we... I apologize. No, it's totally

33:20

fine. It was worth it. It was a great conversation

33:22

that we had. You're welcome. You're welcome. Here's

33:25

my concern. I think

33:27

three things are keeping cable TV in

33:29

business. One, are

33:31

your friends, the boomers. Two,

33:35

is Big Pharma. And three is sports. A lot of

33:37

sports teams are going away and they're saying, hey, you

33:39

can watch us on our own OTT. You don't need

33:41

to go to NBC or whatever to watch it. You

33:43

can come to us. Maybe boomers, just

33:45

a matter of time. And the third

33:47

one keeping cable in business is Big

33:49

Pharma. Around $5.7 billion Big

33:51

Pharma gave to cable TV in 2022. Now,

33:55

two countries in the world are the only countries where

33:58

Big Pharma can advertise in. It's us. and

34:00

it's New Zealand, right? I'm

34:03

having this conversation with Vivek back there in

34:05

the cigar lounge about a month ago on

34:07

his podcast. And I said, why

34:11

are we allowing big pharma to advertise? And

34:13

they're almost forcing all these mainstream

34:16

media talking heads that are reading a

34:18

teleprompter to do whatever they tell them to do. Because if you

34:20

don't, you're not going to get the money and all this stuff.

34:22

They're pretty much puppets for them. And that's

34:24

a reality when you're seeing it. That's their

34:26

job. That's who pays them. They're millions of

34:28

dollars per year. And I

34:31

said, why are we allowing big pharma to advertise? Well, this

34:33

is because capital. Somebody can come and says, wait, it's from

34:35

a car. You can kill people with cars. Or we're going

34:37

to ban cars. I said, but why do we ban cigarettes?

34:40

You can buy cigarettes. We don't see ads on TV.

34:42

You don't see Marlboro. You don't see Winston. Why

34:45

don't we ban big pharma from

34:47

advertising? 195 countries in the

34:49

world, only two of them a lot. We're one of them. Are

34:52

you someone that has the courage

34:55

or thinks it's a good idea? If

34:57

in the day you become a president, well, you will prevent

35:01

big pharma from advertising

35:03

on cable TV. The

35:06

answer to that is yes. I'll do that

35:08

on day one. But let me know. I'll

35:12

explain how it works. Let me ask you something. What

35:14

did Vivek say? Vivek

35:17

said, let me go research it. And

35:19

I want to think, but he said it's a very good idea. I said,

35:21

the reason why I think you ought to think about it is

35:23

because his background as well. And

35:26

that conversation will lead to, I

35:28

got to go do more due diligence. While we're

35:30

doing the interview, we're checking what companies cannot advertise.

35:32

And the one we found is Tabanto. Well, you

35:34

know, my dad actually

35:37

got cigarette

35:39

ads off of TV and

35:42

got liquor ads off of TV. If you

35:45

remember 10 years

35:47

ago even, you never saw liquor ad on TV.

35:50

That's recent that you're seeing that. On

35:53

the network, the liquor companies, my

35:57

father actually had legislation. to

36:00

ban them and they came

36:02

to him and said, look, don't ban us,

36:04

we will just stop doing it. We won't

36:07

advertise on TV. So gradually

36:10

you got it so there were beer ads

36:12

on TV. But hard liquor companies did not

36:14

advertise on TV probably till 10 or 15

36:16

years ago. I don't know

36:19

exactly when they, but I remember when they, you

36:22

started seeing vodka ads and then more and

36:24

more stuff. It was on Gable TV. It

36:27

was not on networks. It was not on

36:29

ABC. Because the

36:31

public actually owns the network, owns

36:33

those airways. The

36:36

companies that, you know, the broadcasters have a

36:38

license to use them, but they have to

36:40

use them in ways that promote the public

36:43

interest. And it was, it

36:45

was regarded at that time that

36:48

direct consumer advertisement was bad. Everybody

36:51

agreed with that. The American Medical

36:53

Association, everybody agreed. We

36:55

should not be doing direct consumer advertising

36:59

pharmaceuticals. That changed in 1997. So

37:03

that's when you started seeing this

37:05

wave of pharmaceutical ads on TV.

37:07

And of course, the pharmaceutical

37:09

companies want to

37:12

advertise on the network news for

37:14

two reasons. One is because it,

37:17

because that's where their customers are the only people,

37:19

as I said, who watch

37:22

network news are old people. And those

37:24

are people who are buying the pharmaceutical

37:26

trucks. And then

37:28

the other reason is because it

37:31

allows them to control content. Oh,

37:34

and you know, other companies do this

37:37

too. Like you'll see, you know, Northrop

37:39

Grumman and Raytheon and Lockheed,

37:41

you know, I saw an ad the other day.

37:44

I think it was on Good Morning America. It

37:46

was one of the big, where

37:48

they were advertising killer drones. And

37:51

I was like, who watching

37:53

this show is

37:55

buying killer drones? Of course,

37:57

nobody is, but it allows them. to

38:00

control the content and to get there,

38:02

you know, all the former generals who

38:05

act as experts on

38:08

the mainstream media and are constantly

38:11

telling the war narrative and getting us,

38:13

you know, so that's one of the reasons

38:15

they do it. In

38:18

2014, I had a conversation with Roger Ailes. Do

38:25

you guys know who Roger Ailes is? Raise your hand if you

38:27

know who he is. So

38:29

most of you do. Roger Ailes was the founder of

38:31

Fox News. And

38:34

I spent, when I was 18 years

38:36

old or 19 years old, I spent

38:38

three months in a tent with him in East

38:41

Africa and that's a long story. But

38:44

I remained friends with him. This is

38:47

before Fox News existed. I remained friends

38:49

with him many later, started Fox News

38:51

and for me, ideologically, he was like

38:53

Darth Vader. Our

38:56

friendship, we had a very, very close

38:58

friendship even though we were politically diametrically

39:00

opposed to each other. And

39:03

he would put me on, you know,

39:06

I was always fighting for the

39:08

environment. I was the leading environmental

39:10

lawyer and advocate in the country. I

39:13

was the only environmentalist who went on Fox News,

39:16

one because the other ones didn't want

39:18

to do it. Also, Roger would make

39:21

Sean Hannity and Neil Cavuto and Bill

39:23

O'Reilly and all of his hosts put

39:26

me on even though he didn't agree with what I

39:28

was saying. And

39:31

so I did in 2014,

39:33

I did a documentary with

39:35

some other people about mercury

39:37

in vaccines. And

39:40

I went to Roger Ailes, I showed it to him and

39:43

he said, yeah, you know, and

39:45

in fact, he believed that a

39:48

relative of his had been injured, was

39:50

severely injured. He

39:54

said, I can't let you on with that. And

39:56

he said, in fact, if any of my hosts allowed me to do

39:58

it, I would have to do it. you onto their

40:00

shows I would have to fire them. And

40:04

he said if I didn't, I remember

40:06

this is a quote, he said if

40:08

I didn't fire them I would

40:11

have Rupert, I which he

40:13

meant Rupert Murdoch the owner of the

40:15

network on the telephone within 10 minutes.

40:18

And then he said to me

40:21

75% of

40:23

the advertising revenues for our

40:25

evening news show are coming from pharma.

40:27

And he said out

40:30

of typically 22 to 24 news

40:32

shots, news slots, I mean advertising

40:34

slots on the evening news, 17

40:38

are going to pharmaceutical companies.

40:41

And so he said you know and

40:43

I've seen time and time again where

40:45

hosts are you know

40:47

get calls from the corporate and

40:50

from the bean counters who are doing the

40:52

advertising. Where news hosts

40:54

get that and say you know that segment

40:57

I just taped with you we can't play it because

41:00

our advertisers are telling us not

41:02

to. And

41:04

I can recite stories like that

41:06

with names and dates all day.

41:08

I've written about it but you

41:11

know that it is the reality

41:13

that the pharmaceutical industry that the

41:15

people like Anderson Cooper, like Jake

41:17

Tapper are really our

41:20

pharmaceutical reps. You know their job

41:22

is to drum up fear

41:25

of infectious disease and stories

41:27

about chronic disease and then

41:30

to sell pharmaceutical advertising on

41:32

TV. And if you you

41:34

know their salaries ultimately not

41:36

directly but ultimately

41:39

are coming from the pharmaceutical

41:41

industry largely. It would be very funny if

41:43

somebody at CNN who's an editor I'm not

41:45

trying to give anybody any ideas. Well maybe

41:47

if they're a fan of RFK while Anderson

41:49

Cooper is doing it on the bottom instead

41:52

of saying host he says you know pharmaceutical

41:54

rep for Pfizer it'd be very entertaining. Not

41:56

trying to put any ideas in any 24

41:58

year old editors minds that I

42:00

just thought it'd be funny. Anyway, so next topic,

42:02

okay? It's not a good career. It's not funny.

42:05

It's definitely not good. But we're hiring over here,

42:07

so maybe it'd be a good opportunity to come

42:09

somewhere else. Okay. You've

42:12

been accused of claiming that

42:14

man-made chemicals in the environment are making

42:16

children gay or

42:18

transgender and causing feminization

42:21

of boys and masculinization of girls. This

42:23

has been shown even with Bill Maher

42:25

that he showed generation by generation by

42:27

generation and we're getting gayer and gayer

42:29

and gayer eventually in the next 20 years.

42:31

You and I end up being gay the way we're going right now. In

42:35

a June 2022 episode

42:37

of your podcast, you stated if you

42:40

expose frogs to astrazine,

42:42

male frogs, it changes

42:44

their sex and they can actually bear

42:46

young. They can lay eggs. This is you saying this.

42:49

Fertile eggs. And so the capacity

42:52

for these chemicals that we are just raining

42:54

down on our children right now to induce

42:56

them these very profound sexual changes

42:58

in them is something we need to be thinking

43:00

about as a society. And even according to a

43:02

report, particles

43:05

can harm human body. Estimations

43:08

of the total mass of ingested

43:10

MP particles correspond to 50 plastic

43:13

bags per year. This is all of us

43:15

in here. One credit card

43:17

per week or median value of other

43:20

numbers we can look at here. But this is kind of the

43:22

other day, I have a bathroom in my office. Only two of

43:24

us uses. You know, somebody

43:26

goes to the bathroom, they forget to flush it. You see

43:28

something. Yeah, they go to the bathroom. I'm

43:30

looking at their six credit cards in the bathroom. Vinnie

43:32

was, you know, because he's got so much plastic in

43:34

his body that, you know, for us with the wrong

43:37

chemicals that we have. Now, Vinnie's still straight. We're good

43:39

with him. But how do you

43:41

when you say something like this, there's only one other

43:43

guy that said this about frogs and he had to

43:45

pay a few hundred million out of funds. They're trying

43:47

to get the money from him. I'm

43:49

not going to go there. But how do you

43:51

plan to combat the poisoning of Americans if

43:54

elected president? Well, first of

43:56

all, let me clarify something. I

43:58

never said that. chemicals

44:01

in our food or water

44:03

are making people gay. I've

44:05

never said that. I never

44:08

said that they're making

44:10

people trans or

44:14

giving them sexual

44:16

amorphism. Here's

44:18

what I did say. First of all, I've worked

44:20

for, I've spent 40 years working

44:24

on endocrine disruptors, and

44:27

it's non-controversial. Endocrine disruptor

44:30

is a family of chemicals that

44:33

has the impact on sexual

44:35

development of humans and

44:38

of animals. And, you know, there are

44:40

many, including, you know, PBAs

44:43

in plastic and

44:46

PCBs, which

44:49

are a flame retardant, and

44:52

many, many other chemicals that are known to

44:55

have the impact of

44:57

endocrine disruption. They

44:59

disrupt in mammals and other

45:02

animals normal

45:04

sexual development. So that is

45:06

non-controversial. Nobody disagrees with

45:08

that. The

45:12

study that I referred to, and any of

45:15

you can look this up on your cell phones right

45:17

now on Google, is

45:20

a study in which a scientist,

45:23

and I can't remember his last name.

45:26

I know his first name is Tyler. But

45:30

you can look it up and you can use his first name, but

45:33

you don't even need to do that. You

45:35

just put atrazine and sexual dimorphism or sexual changes

45:37

in frogs, and

45:39

that's going to come up on your Google. You're going

45:41

to see a peer-reviewed

45:43

published study. What

45:46

he did is he took 27 frogs, males, he

45:51

put them in aquarium, and he

45:54

exposed them to levels of atrazine

45:57

that are below... EPA

46:01

exposure levels. So they're

46:03

below the levels that we

46:06

are receiving. 63%

46:08

of the water supply is now contaminated

46:10

with apathy. And

46:13

EPA allows that up

46:17

to a certain level before it tells you

46:19

the local water districts stop people from drinking

46:21

it. And that level that they allow is

46:25

what Tyler exposed the frogs to.

46:27

So there are 27 frogs. He

46:31

exposed them to the chemicals, and they're all

46:33

male. Of

46:36

that, 90% of

46:38

them became

46:42

sterile. They couldn't produce

46:44

young. So

46:49

I think three of the frogs became

46:54

turned female and

46:56

were capable of producing

46:59

fertile eggs. So

47:01

their sex was literally changed by exposure

47:03

to this chemical. What

47:06

I said is

47:09

that there are anecdotal observational

47:11

evidence that we are seeing

47:13

higher numbers of individuals

47:17

with sexual dimorphism than in previous

47:19

generations. That is controversial, because

47:21

there are people out there who will

47:25

say, no, it's always been steady. But

47:27

there's a lot of people, and there's

47:29

some studies that show, no, it's actually

47:32

increasing dramatically. I'm not

47:34

going to take a side one way or the other. But

47:36

if it is increasing, shouldn't

47:40

we look? First of all, shouldn't

47:42

we do studies to see if it's increasing? That's

47:44

what the federal government should be doing, but they

47:46

won't do them. Second

47:49

of all, shouldn't we be doing

47:51

studies to see if the chemicals

47:54

that we know impact frogs that

47:56

way, whether

47:58

they also... impact humans

48:00

that way. And there's easy ways

48:03

to study that without deliberately exposing

48:07

humans to those chemicals. So shouldn't

48:09

we be doing those studies? Whether

48:11

not just atrosine, but other endocrine

48:13

disruptors that are now ubiquitous. Everybody

48:15

in Hudson Valley has

48:18

General Electric's PCBs in their flesh and

48:20

our organs. A lot

48:23

of these chemicals are now that

48:25

are known endocrine disruptors are

48:27

ubiquitous now. And

48:29

shouldn't we be determining whether they're

48:31

having these other insidious effects on

48:34

us? And that

48:36

is all I said now. Your question was

48:39

how am I going to end that? Here's how

48:41

I'm going to end it. My first week in

48:43

office, I'm going

48:45

to go to Bethesda where NIH

48:47

is. And Bethesda and

48:49

NIH will not let you study these

48:51

questions right now. NIH

48:54

has an annual budget of $42 billion.

48:57

It distributes that money to

49:00

56,000 scientists in research

49:02

centers, mainly in universities all across

49:04

North America and some in other

49:06

countries as well to

49:09

study human health impacts.

49:12

But what NIH and what I was

49:14

a kid, NIH was the gold standard

49:17

research agency on earth. In

49:20

fact, if you went to other countries in

49:22

Europe, Latin America, Africa, they don't have a

49:25

scientific agency. In

49:28

fact, in their laws, they say whatever

49:32

FDA approves is approved in this

49:34

country. Whatever NIH says,

49:36

you know, we're going to take their word for

49:38

it because they were at

49:41

impeccable integrity. What's

49:43

happened over the past 50 years is

49:45

NIH has stopped doing that kind of

49:47

science. And it's changed. To

49:51

do science that is corrupt oftentimes

49:53

that is used to justify the

49:55

mercantile or promote the mercantile ambitions

49:58

of the human health. of the

50:00

industries that it regulates, but

50:03

mainly it has become an

50:06

incubator for pharmaceutical products. So,

50:10

for example, the Moderna vaccine is

50:12

owned by NIH, and

50:15

NIH gets to keep 50% of the royalties. Oh,

50:19

they're making tens of billions of

50:22

a product that they made us all take. Not

50:26

only that, but there are six individuals

50:28

who work for NIH, who were top

50:31

deputies of

50:34

the then manager, Anthony

50:36

Fauci, who

50:38

also have walk-in rights for the

50:40

patents. So they are allowed

50:43

to collect $150,000 a year on

50:48

Moderna sales forever. Their

50:50

children, their children's children, they're paying for

50:52

their boats, their mortgages,

50:56

their kids' education,

50:58

their alimony, from

51:01

what they get from Moderna.

51:05

And that is not a very

51:07

good, it's not a

51:10

good idea. Let me put it that

51:12

way. You want regulators to be independent,

51:14

and you don't want the commercial ambitions

51:17

of individual regulators to

51:19

subvert the regulatory function of

51:22

that agency. And you give somebody $150,000 a year

51:24

forever, their

51:27

children, their children's children, they

51:30

might overlook something, some

51:33

problems with that drug, and their

51:35

job is to find problems with it. And

51:38

so, you really think they're gonna

51:40

let you go expose that? I mean, Rand Paul's been

51:42

trying to do what he's doing. You

51:45

really think, I mean- Oh, well, as

51:47

president, they work for me. I've

51:50

been suing these agencies for 40 years. I

51:54

know with the regulatory, I understand

51:56

regulatory capture. I have

51:58

a PhD in it. each one of

52:01

these agencies, I've sued almost all

52:03

of them, I've sued NIH, CDC,

52:05

FDA, EPA, multiple, multiple times. I

52:08

sued DOT, because I'm involved in

52:10

litigation now with them, Department

52:13

of Transportation, because I'm representing a thousand

52:15

families right now whose lives were upended

52:18

by the Norfolk Southern Spill and he's

52:20

at Palestine, Ohio. So I not only

52:22

am meeting with them at their kitchen

52:24

tables and hearing what is under their

52:26

lives, and

52:29

I'm seeing and we're discovering and

52:31

discovery why

52:33

that was a result of corporate capture. And I'll

52:36

just tell you one of the many things, you

52:38

know, the FDA proposed a regulation

52:41

that there should be

52:43

heat sensors on every wheel

52:45

of these huge train cars

52:47

now. I mean, these huge trains,

52:49

they have hundreds of cars on them, that

52:52

every wheel should have a heat sensor on

52:54

it to notify the engineer and

52:57

that there should be multiple engineers and

52:59

personnel on each train. The

53:02

agency, because it doesn't want to spend that

53:04

money, said, no, we only need one personnel

53:06

on a train with a hundred cars

53:08

on it. And we don't want

53:10

to install the heat centers because that's going to cost

53:12

us a couple thousand dollars per train. Well,

53:15

we now know that on

53:18

that spill, the

53:20

wheel of that train was

53:23

sparking and then it

53:25

caught fire. And for 20 miles,

53:28

it was on fire, getting bigger and bigger

53:30

until the whole box car burned and the

53:32

box car was full of PVC pipe, which

53:36

went off like an explosion and derailed

53:39

the train. How do we know? Because

53:42

through discovery, we

53:44

got the doorbell ringers from

53:47

people who were neighbors of

53:49

that train track, and you can watch

53:51

it from their doorbell cameras with

53:54

this fire getting bigger and bigger for 20 miles. And

53:57

the engineer has no idea because

53:59

they didn't put the heat. sensors on. So

54:01

that spill took place directly

54:04

because of agency capture. And that's

54:06

what you see in when we sued, I'll tell you

54:09

very briefly, when we

54:11

sued Monsanto, we

54:13

found email correspondence between the head

54:15

of the pesticide division at EPA

54:17

for a decade, a guy called

54:19

Jess Roland, and

54:22

the top executives of

54:24

the Monsanto company which owned

54:26

Roundup, which we were suing. And they

54:29

were secret emails where

54:32

we believed, as the American public believed,

54:34

was paying Jess Roland his salary and

54:36

we believed he was working for us.

54:40

From these emails, it's clear that for

54:42

a decade he was secretly working for

54:44

Monsanto and they were telling him, kill

54:46

this study, fix this study, don't

54:48

let this happen. At one

54:50

point they say, oh no,

54:53

there's another agency, ATSDR, that's

54:55

going to study the link between cancer

54:57

and Roundup. You cannot let that study happen.

55:00

Jess Roland sends him an email back saying, I

55:03

can't stop it, it's not my agency. And they

55:05

sent him back saying, you have to stop it.

55:08

And he then says, okay, I'm

55:10

gonna do it, but you need to give me a gold medal.

55:13

That's why the first two judges would

55:15

not let us show that memo to

55:17

the jury. The third

55:20

judge did and that's why they gave

55:22

us 2.2 billion because they were Americans

55:24

and they're upset that their regulators are

55:28

owned by the industry they're supposed to regulate. By the

55:30

way, how much do these things matter to you? Like

55:32

you would want the president to investigate these things?

55:35

Yes. Just

55:38

continue. Blake

55:40

Rothman, if you can work your way up to the

55:42

mic, I'll come to you right afterwards. Meanwhile, I'm gonna

55:44

continue with this next question here. According

55:47

to China, Gino News, at

55:49

least 900 young adults are taking

55:52

part in military training with some as young as seven

55:54

years old. In China, we're training

55:56

boys at seven years old. In America,

55:58

we're transitioning boys at seven years

56:00

old. According to a new poll conducted

56:02

by Pew Research Center in June, only

56:05

9% of young Americans ages

56:07

17 to 24 say they are

56:09

very or somewhat likely to serve

56:11

in the military in the next four years.

56:13

This is the lowest percentage we've had expressed

56:15

in a military service since 1979 when Pew

56:17

Research started this. So here's what it makes

56:19

me think about. Number one,

56:22

16 years old I need to be to get a driver's

56:24

license, 18 years old to get a tattoo, 18 years

56:27

old to vote, 21 years old to drink, 25 years

56:30

old in many states to get a, you

56:32

know, rent a car. But California

56:34

and some other directions, some places are

56:36

going, hey, your daughter, your son can

56:39

run away. This is a sanctuary state.

56:41

He can come and do a procedure

56:43

here without the consent of your parents.

56:45

What will you do as a president

56:48

to get this nonsense out to prevent kids

56:50

under the age of 18 without

56:53

the consent of the father to transition? You may

56:55

even say that is an okay policy you're a

56:57

part of that many families disagree with. One,

57:00

what's your position on this and what

57:02

will you do as a president? I

57:04

mean, my, my position is that people

57:06

should not be able to have access

57:08

to those procedures that minors shouldn't without

57:10

parental permission. And, you

57:13

know, I don't, I don't know enough

57:15

about it, Patrick,

57:17

to, to say that it should

57:19

be completely illegal. Under 18?

57:22

No, no, but I

57:24

just don't know enough what I would I'm going

57:26

to tell you because I don't know. Well, Robert,

57:29

I mean, you're, you know, I don't, you know

57:31

what, I don't know enough. I would, I need

57:33

to look at data before I do it. Make

57:35

a decision. My, my

57:37

inclination is that it's not

57:39

good for anybody. There

57:42

may be some rare cases where

57:45

it saves somebody's life. I don't know that.

57:47

I'm not going to tell you that I

57:49

have an answer to a question. But Robert,

57:52

but Robert, I just want to tell

57:54

you there's a big difference between those two

57:56

things. One, saving somebody's life to transition

57:58

and cut the dangling off. How are

58:00

you saving that person's life? Some of these

58:02

things logically, they make no sense to parents

58:05

or parents. You're gonna have to ask for

58:07

both parents on both sides. There is conflicting

58:09

values here. And one of the values is

58:11

freedom. To do what you want

58:13

with your own body and have the government tell you you

58:16

can or you can't do that. Who is protecting kids under

58:18

the age of 18 though? That's the

58:20

other right. And that's what I'd say. Nobody

58:22

can do it without their parents' permission. That's

58:24

solid. And then

58:27

I have to look at the drugs, the safety

58:29

of the drugs, whether there's permanent damage from the...

58:31

I just don't know. You're

58:34

rolling your eyes like I shouldn't have... This

58:36

is an obvious question. Do you trust a

58:38

14-year-old driving a car? Without

58:43

a driver's license? Do you trust

58:45

a 13-year-old voting? What if a

58:47

parent consents for the 13-year-old to vote? Should we be

58:49

okay with that? Because a parent said it's okay. Should

58:51

we trust a parent that... He's the illegal parent 13-year-old

58:53

to vote. I get that, but why should it be

58:55

legal for somebody at 13 with parent consent to transition?

58:59

First of all, the medical

59:01

reports you gave are not

59:03

apt, because when

59:06

you drive a car, you're affecting other

59:08

people. You're

59:10

making this... I'm not... Listen, I'm

59:12

just telling you the truth. I

59:14

don't have a position on this because I don't know enough

59:17

about it. I believe my values

59:19

are the same as yours, and you probably know

59:21

a lot more about this and could explain it

59:23

to me. But

59:26

I don't know whether there are rare,

59:28

rare cases. My inclination is that we

59:30

shouldn't be giving drugs. We

59:33

should limit any kind

59:35

of drug that is dangerous, that there are

59:37

availability to young people. That

59:40

there may be some rare circumstances that

59:42

you wouldn't want to criminalize it. So

59:45

I do believe this, that

59:49

people who make those kinds of decisions

59:51

as adults should

59:54

be... That

59:56

they shouldn't be subject to ridicule

59:58

or derision or bias. in any way and

1:00:02

that we should discourage everything we can

1:00:04

to discourage those kind of decisions from

1:00:06

young people. Can

1:00:08

I add one other issue? Yes, go for

1:00:10

it. There's a lot of things

1:00:14

happening to our children now that

1:00:19

we need to look at as

1:00:22

a nation and that are being completely

1:00:24

ignored. When my

1:00:26

uncle was president, six percent of

1:00:28

American children had chronic disease of

1:00:30

Americans. By

1:00:33

chronic disease, I'm in categories

1:00:35

obesity, neurological

1:00:38

injuries like ADD, ADHD,

1:00:41

speech-alay, language-alay, tics, Tourette's

1:00:43

syndrome, narcolepsy, ASD, autism,

1:00:47

food allergies, peanut allergies,

1:00:50

which I never saw in my life.

1:00:52

I have 11 siblings, I have 70

1:00:54

cousins, none of them

1:00:56

have food allergies. Why do five of my

1:00:58

seven kids have those allergies? And

1:01:02

then autoimmune disease, rheumatoid

1:01:05

arthritis, juvenile diabetes, these exotic diseases like

1:01:07

Crohn's disease and lupus that we never

1:01:09

saw as a kid. A kid, six

1:01:12

percent, 1986, 11.8 percent, by 2006, 54

1:01:14

percent, this is one

1:01:22

of the problems with

1:01:24

our military. They're not eligible for military

1:01:26

service. We don't know

1:01:28

what it is today because after

1:01:30

2006, NIH stopped publishing the

1:01:32

data. It's probably 60 percent

1:01:35

of our kids have autoimmune allergic

1:01:37

or neurological disease. Usually,

1:01:39

EpiPens in every classroom. You see

1:01:42

albuterol inhalers. In

1:01:44

some classes, 70 percent of the kids

1:01:46

are in atarol. They are diagnosed with

1:01:48

ADHD. What's

1:01:50

happening? Autism went from one in

1:01:52

10,000 in my generation

1:01:56

to one in every 34 kids today. And

1:01:59

it's not because we're seeing it. suddenly because

1:02:01

then you'd see it in my generation. I've

1:02:03

never seen a 69 year man,

1:02:06

69 year old man with

1:02:08

full-blown autism. By that

1:02:10

I mean nonverbal, non toilet train, head

1:02:14

banging, stimming, toe

1:02:16

walking, hand flapping. I've

1:02:19

never seen that in a 69 year old

1:02:21

man but in my kids generation it's one

1:02:23

in every 34 kids. EPA,

1:02:26

Congress said to EPA tell us what

1:02:29

year it started, the epidemic started. EPA

1:02:31

came back. EPA is a captivating

1:02:33

but it's captive by oil, coal,

1:02:36

chemical and big egg. It's

1:02:39

not captive by pharma, it doesn't regulate

1:02:41

pharma. So they came back

1:02:43

with an honest study and they said it's

1:02:45

a red line, 1989. Well as it turns

1:02:48

out these diseases,

1:02:52

most of them started on that

1:02:54

same timeline. Around 1989, peanut allergy

1:02:57

suddenly appear, obesity

1:03:00

goes crazy, we

1:03:02

go from 6% of, I mean obesity to 45%

1:03:04

of kids, 75% overweight.

1:03:09

It's not because they suddenly got lazy.

1:03:11

American kids. It's

1:03:14

because they're being mass poisoned by

1:03:16

something and why

1:03:18

aren't we asking the question what is that?

1:03:20

What is happening to American children? We have

1:03:22

the highest chronic disease rate of any nation

1:03:25

in the world. We have

1:03:27

the highest COVID death rates. We

1:03:29

have 16% of the COVID deaths in this

1:03:31

country. We only have

1:03:33

4.2% of the world's population. Why is

1:03:36

that? Bad management number

1:03:38

one. Number two, it was

1:03:43

chronic disease killing these kids. EPA said,

1:03:47

of the Americans who died from COVID,

1:03:50

on average they had 3.8% chronic disease.

1:03:52

They had diabetes, asthma,

1:03:57

obesity and one other. or

1:04:00

some other group. We

1:04:02

have the highest chronic disease rate in the

1:04:04

world, and it's bankrupting us. My

1:04:07

uncle's present is 6%. Now

1:04:10

it's probably 6%. But if you

1:04:12

look at Medicare bills, what

1:04:15

we're paying total of $4.3 trillion

1:04:17

a year on health care. And

1:04:20

93% of that is

1:04:22

going to chronic disease. It's

1:04:24

an unnecessary cost. And

1:04:26

nobody's asking the question, why is it

1:04:28

happening? Oh, there's a

1:04:31

doctor in New York, a very

1:04:33

famous toxicologist called Phil Landrigan. And

1:04:36

he's a guy I've used as an expert in

1:04:38

many cases. He's actually done

1:04:40

studies and said, what could it be?

1:04:43

You have to find a toxin. It

1:04:46

became ubiquitous in 1989, in the early 90s, and

1:04:51

affected every demographic in our country from

1:04:53

Cubans and keep us game. And

1:04:57

he's been in New York, in New York,

1:04:59

in Alaska, and affects

1:05:01

boys in neurological injuries, four to one

1:05:04

ratio to girls. He

1:05:06

looked at some of these questions, and he said there's only about

1:05:08

13 things it could

1:05:10

possibly be. One

1:05:12

of those is glyphosate from Roundup.

1:05:15

One of them is neonicotinoid pesticides, atrazine, which

1:05:17

is 63% of our water. Which

1:05:23

follows some of that timeline. Wi-Fi

1:05:26

radiation from cell phones, which I've won

1:05:28

a case on in the Court of

1:05:30

Appeals. And

1:05:33

then there's PFOAs, which is

1:05:35

a forever chemical. It's a flame

1:05:37

retardant. I was

1:05:39

putting all of our kids' pajamas on that timeline

1:05:41

and all of our furniture, and there's a few

1:05:43

more. The easiest thing in

1:05:46

the world is to actually go do

1:05:48

this study, identify what it is that

1:05:50

is making Americans so sick. And

1:05:53

that's 93% of our health care costs. Let's

1:05:57

eliminate those toxins. That's what I'm gonna do when

1:05:59

I... I'm going to get in there. I'm going to go in and

1:06:01

I'm going to tell all

1:06:03

these scientists from EPA, we're not developing

1:06:05

drugs anymore. We're going to give infectious

1:06:08

disease a break for a couple of years and

1:06:11

we're going to find out why

1:06:13

are we the sickest people on the face of

1:06:15

the earth. Why

1:06:17

is that happening to America? We

1:06:20

should all be talking about this issue. I would

1:06:22

love to see you. Are you willing to dedicate

1:06:24

some of your time the next couple of months

1:06:26

to see? By the way,

1:06:28

the issue that you raise is one of the

1:06:30

things that needs to be studied. Let's

1:06:33

look at it and make

1:06:35

a decision based on data

1:06:37

and that is consistent with our

1:06:39

values. My values on this are the same as

1:06:41

you. I just don't have the confidence. I've

1:06:45

talked to enough people and read enough studies

1:06:47

to actually make a

1:06:51

defensible decision by saying, oh, ban this for

1:06:53

everybody. I don't know. Somebody

1:06:55

may come to me and say, wait a minute, my

1:06:57

job's life is safe. I don't know.

1:06:59

I've got a few more questions I want to go

1:07:01

to, but I also want to go to the guest here.

1:07:03

Matt, if you have your question, if you want to

1:07:05

lead the way, the next person is Jonathan Galt and

1:07:07

Blake Rotmel afterwards if you want to go right behind. Go

1:07:10

for it, Matt. Hi, good afternoon. My name is Matthew

1:07:12

Sohala and I served eight years

1:07:14

in the Marine Corps to an act of duty of

1:07:17

aid and activity to the reserves. I served

1:07:19

under three different commanders and chiefs,

1:07:21

which is both Bush's and the Clinton's.

1:07:24

And my political opinion is asking fellow crew

1:07:26

chiefs how do we vote and how do we

1:07:28

lead a former political opinion while serving in the military.

1:07:31

So your families regard as the

1:07:33

most famous political dynasty. So

1:07:36

who did you seek counsel from and how did

1:07:38

you process leading the Democratic Party?

1:07:41

And what should American voters be specifically aware

1:07:43

of in this election cycle from

1:07:45

both sides, Democratic and Republican?

1:07:50

So you're asking why did I win? First of

1:07:52

all, thank you for your service. And

1:07:56

you're asking why I went

1:07:59

independent? I, I,

1:08:01

I, I mean, I consult with a lot of

1:08:03

people. My,

1:08:06

you know, my campaign manager at the time

1:08:08

was Dennis Kucinich, who himself had run for

1:08:11

president. Very liberal

1:08:13

Democrat, Annie Warr. And

1:08:15

he, he

1:08:18

was one of the first people that said the Democrat

1:08:20

Party is not going to let you win. You're

1:08:22

going to have to leave. And I was, I

1:08:25

said to him, I'm not

1:08:27

going to do that. And, and

1:08:30

one by one, all of my, the

1:08:33

people around me, because it

1:08:35

became obvious that the Democrat Party was not

1:08:37

going to let me win no matter what.

1:08:39

And they changed the rules. Somebody

1:08:43

actually tabulated 60 different rules they adopted to

1:08:45

make sure that I could not win, even

1:08:47

if I got the most votes. So,

1:08:50

for example, I'll just give you one example.

1:08:54

They made a rule that if any

1:08:56

candidate, which was directed at me, because I'd already

1:08:58

done it, violate this rule. If

1:09:00

any candidate stepped into the state

1:09:03

of New Hampshire, put one foot

1:09:05

in, that

1:09:07

all the votes that, that,

1:09:10

that candidate won in New Hampshire would not

1:09:12

count. That was a

1:09:14

rule. They proposed the

1:09:17

same rule for Georgia, but not about Georgia.

1:09:19

They said if anybody steps foot in New

1:09:21

Hampshire, they can't win any votes in Georgia

1:09:23

either. And

1:09:26

Iowa, and actually they proposed it for Florida

1:09:28

as well. But

1:09:30

they did a lot of other

1:09:32

things like that. They created this

1:09:34

class of superdelegates called pleos that

1:09:37

even if I won, they could

1:09:39

take the election away from me. And then, you

1:09:41

know, President Biden, of course, wouldn't debate me. And

1:09:45

it just became, you know, I had

1:09:47

by that time got a lot of

1:09:49

money from people in five dollar donations,

1:09:51

millions of dollars, and

1:09:54

a lot of big donors. And I,

1:09:56

you know, feel like I felt like I had an

1:09:58

obligation to do the best. that

1:10:00

I could to win, which is why they gave me

1:10:02

the money and not just

1:10:05

have a kabuki theater of I'm gonna run and

1:10:07

make a couple of points and then bow out.

1:10:11

And ultimately, my

1:10:14

wife, who's a hardcore Democrat, also

1:10:18

said, they're not

1:10:20

gonna let you do it, you gotta leave. So I did

1:10:22

it, my family's, it

1:10:26

was a difficult decision for me, my family's

1:10:28

been involved in the Democratic Party for over

1:10:30

100 years. My family

1:10:33

came over and the potato famine and they

1:10:35

all, when they got here, the

1:10:38

Irish in Britain had not been for 600

1:10:40

years and not been

1:10:42

allowed to participate in politics. And

1:10:44

when they got here, they took to

1:10:46

politics like starving men take to food.

1:10:50

And my grandfather, John

1:10:52

Fitzgerald Honeyfitz, became

1:10:55

the first Irish Catholic mayor of Boston.

1:11:01

My other grandparent, great grandparent,

1:11:03

Patrick Kennedy, you're

1:11:07

talking about my grandfather, his son, Patrick

1:11:10

Kennedy was in

1:11:13

the state legislature and was award-paused,

1:11:15

a big political boss in Boston.

1:11:19

And their kids, Rose Kennedy

1:11:22

and Joseph Kennedy married each other

1:11:25

and produced nine kids. Their

1:11:28

eldest boy, Joe, was killed in World

1:11:30

War I on a very,

1:11:32

very dangerous volunteer mission after he had completed

1:11:34

all of his flights. He was asked to,

1:11:36

he volunteered

1:11:39

to fly the first flying bomb, which

1:11:42

was a remote-controlled plane that they

1:11:45

were gonna direct into the submarine pens,

1:11:47

the Nazi submarine pens. And

1:11:50

the plane was controlled by another plane with

1:11:52

a remote control first time in history that

1:11:54

had happened, but they needed a pilot to

1:11:56

take it off and it was

1:11:58

loaded with bombs. And

1:12:00

he took it off and got it to altitude and

1:12:03

he was the great hope for my family. In fact,

1:12:06

40 years after his death, my grandfather,

1:12:08

if you mention his name, would burst

1:12:10

into tears. And he loved

1:12:12

that child so much. And

1:12:15

when they got to altitude and turned on

1:12:18

the remote control, the whole plane vaporized and

1:12:20

his body was never found. So

1:12:22

he died. His younger brother, John Kennedy

1:12:25

Jack, was the first

1:12:27

Irish Catholic mayor of our

1:12:29

country and I mean,

1:12:31

president of our country, my dad

1:12:34

was an attorney general, was killed running

1:12:36

for president. My uncle Teddy was in

1:12:38

the Senate for 50 years longer than

1:12:40

anybody else except for one other senator.

1:12:44

My brother was, you know, I don't

1:12:46

know, seven or eight terms in Congress.

1:12:48

My sister was lieutenant governor of Maryland.

1:12:50

A lot of my cousins are in

1:12:53

political or were in political office. My

1:12:56

name is almost synonymous with the modern

1:12:59

Democratic Party. So it was for me to

1:13:01

walk away from that was a very, very

1:13:03

difficult decision. And I, you know, for me

1:13:05

to run for president, that's not something I

1:13:07

ever intended to do. I

1:13:10

have, you know, and I, all

1:13:13

of these decisions are novel decisions for

1:13:15

me that I've been, I'm making because

1:13:17

I think it's, you know, that I

1:13:20

feel like I'm in a unique position to

1:13:23

fix this corrupt merger of state and

1:13:25

corporate power that

1:13:28

has locked in on our competent country

1:13:30

and converted us into a, into a

1:13:32

period of abroad, of militarized state abroad,

1:13:34

of surveillance state at home and

1:13:38

put corporations in charge of our democracy

1:13:40

rather than people. And

1:13:42

I feel like I'm in a, because

1:13:44

of my history, because of my family

1:13:46

connections, my name recognition and

1:13:50

my experience unraveling corporate

1:13:52

power, that I'm in a

1:13:54

unique position to be able to fix a lot of these

1:13:56

things. Thank you

1:13:58

for that. So I got a question. question here

1:14:00

about Israel and Palestine and Hamas. But

1:14:02

I want to bring in something you

1:14:04

said about climate change a few months ago. You said a

1:14:06

May 2nd, 2023 on an interview with Unheard

1:14:09

the crisis of climate change

1:14:11

has been to some context co

1:14:13

opted by Bill Gates and the

1:14:15

World Economic Forum and the Billionaires

1:14:17

Voice Club in Davos. The same

1:14:19

way that covid crisis was appropriated

1:14:22

by them to make themselves richer

1:14:24

to impose totalitarian controls and to

1:14:26

stratify our society with very powerful wealthy

1:14:28

people at the top and the vast

1:14:30

majority of human beings with very little

1:14:32

power and very little sovereignty over their

1:14:34

own lives. Every crisis is an opportunity

1:14:36

for those to come back for for

1:14:38

those to clamp down control. OK, so

1:14:40

this is what you said a few

1:14:42

months ago. Let's set this aside. This

1:14:45

just comes out recently with

1:14:47

Israel and Palestine, Gaza, you know,

1:14:50

Hamas. We're seeing all these travesties,

1:14:52

stories, all of them we've been following, according

1:14:55

to an article from New York Times that

1:14:57

came out November 30th a week ago. Israeli

1:15:00

officials obtained Hamas's battle plan

1:15:02

for the October 7th terrorist attack

1:15:04

more than a year before it

1:15:06

happened. But Israeli military and intelligence

1:15:08

officials dismissed the plan as aspirational,

1:15:11

considering it too too difficult to

1:15:13

carry out. Similar to our president

1:15:15

Bush was warned of terrorist attack

1:15:17

threats from Osama bin Laden and Al-Qad, August 6,

1:15:19

2020, 2001, 36 days before 9-11 attacks. Earlier this

1:15:26

week, a report from CNN indicated

1:15:28

that bets against the value

1:15:30

of Israeli companies spiked in

1:15:33

the days before October 7th

1:15:35

Hamas attacks, suggesting some traders

1:15:37

may have had advanced knowledge of the

1:15:39

looming terror attack and profited off

1:15:42

of it. Similar to the knowledge they

1:15:44

had the unusual market activity and short

1:15:46

selling of United Airlines and American Airlines

1:15:49

stock on September 10th, 2001, a day

1:15:51

before 9-11. Now, do you believe if

1:15:56

you're able to make this statement about

1:15:58

climate change and how they use COVID,

1:16:02

today American people's trust

1:16:04

in the government is the lowest it's ever been, in

1:16:07

the mainstream media is the lowest it's ever been,

1:16:09

when you read articles like this the American voters

1:16:11

system says who the hell can I trust? Do

1:16:13

you think there was any ill intentions here? I

1:16:17

don't think that the evidence that you

1:16:19

just presented is evidence necessarily of

1:16:22

Israeli government

1:16:28

complicity or foreknowledge

1:16:30

there, first of all

1:16:33

Hamas itself is an extraordinarily

1:16:35

wealthy organization that has you know

1:16:38

it's all of its top officials

1:16:40

literally all of them are billionaires

1:16:43

the top three people of Israel,

1:16:45

Aynia and his two top cohort,

1:16:48

Israel Aynia has five billion dollars

1:16:51

that he's stolen from you know

1:16:53

international aid Yasser Arafat was a

1:16:55

billionaire, his wife is a billionaire,

1:16:58

Mahmoud Abbas who's the current director

1:17:01

of the West Bank is a billionaire his two

1:17:04

sons of 750 million dollars,

1:17:07

Hamas has a

1:17:09

war chest of in real estate

1:17:12

and stock investments of

1:17:15

500 million dollars, their

1:17:18

biggest sponsor is Iran who

1:17:20

planned the attack and Iran

1:17:23

also you know there's

1:17:25

people in Iran who if they had foreknowledge

1:17:27

could have been on it. Do

1:17:31

I exculpate the

1:17:34

Israeli government for what happened?

1:17:36

No I think the Israeli

1:17:38

it's clear that president

1:17:40

Netanyahu first of all has

1:17:43

nurtured Hamas in many ways the

1:17:45

same way that we nurtured Al-Qaeda

1:17:48

and that we nurtured ISIS and

1:17:51

he allowed the Qataris to give at least

1:17:53

1.5 billion over the past three

1:17:57

years to Hamas you know

1:17:59

Brazil because he thought he

1:18:01

was buying peace. And then, you

1:18:03

know, he also, his very aggressive

1:18:06

policies in the West Bank have moved

1:18:08

a lot of the military resources to

1:18:11

the West Bank and

1:18:13

take them off the cock, down the fence

1:18:15

line. But there's, you know, do I blame

1:18:17

him? You know, I blame him for, and

1:18:21

Likud maybe, for

1:18:24

negligence. But,

1:18:28

you know, Hamas is, Hamas

1:18:30

has to take the full

1:18:32

blame for what happened in

1:18:34

Israel. Hamas has been, you

1:18:36

know, the Israelis have treated

1:18:38

Hamas and Gaza in a way

1:18:40

no other nation in the world would

1:18:42

treat an enemy that declared war on

1:18:44

them 16 years ago and

1:18:47

has dropped 30,000 missiles

1:18:49

on Israel. How did

1:18:51

Israel, what did Israel do instead of going

1:18:53

into Gaza, which every other country that are

1:18:55

Dutch has flattened it. If

1:18:59

the Mexican government elected a communist, if

1:19:01

Mexican people elected a communist government, they

1:19:03

hijacked the government, and

1:19:06

they said, okay, we're reclaiming taxes,

1:19:10

and then sent missiles on the San

1:19:13

Antonio and Houston. How

1:19:15

long would it take for

1:19:17

Mexico to be flat? Not

1:19:20

long. We would go, and then what if

1:19:22

they sent 3,000 terrorists

1:19:24

to slit people's throats, you

1:19:27

know, burned babies, rigged women, and all that. We

1:19:30

would go in there. The Israelis have done

1:19:34

something different. They, instead of

1:19:36

going into Gaza, they

1:19:38

built a fence around it. You know, now

1:19:40

Gaza, Hamas says, oh, you put us in

1:19:42

open-hair prison? Yeah. Because you were

1:19:45

sending suicide bombers across the border. We had

1:19:47

an open border. You were sending suicide bombers

1:19:49

over to kill us, and we had to

1:19:51

put the fence up. And,

1:19:54

you know, in order to stop the 30,000

1:19:56

missiles, they built an iron dome, which we

1:19:58

helped them pay for. But

1:20:01

when a missile sent over, they

1:20:03

shoot it down. Every missile that

1:20:05

Hamas makes costs them about $800. They

1:20:09

shoot it down, it costs $40,000. Israelis

1:20:13

have taken that and said, we're going to shoulder that

1:20:15

burden because we don't want to go in there. They

1:20:19

thought it was under control. They put up

1:20:21

the fence. The fence has cameras on it,

1:20:23

it's monitoring systems, it has automatic machine guns,

1:20:25

and it has balloons that, you know, look,

1:20:28

and because

1:20:30

Hamas was being aided by Iran, they got

1:20:32

North Korean drones that were able to shoot

1:20:35

down those balloons, that were able to disable

1:20:37

the defenses, and then they, you know, they

1:20:40

used explosives and tractors to carve

1:20:44

these holes in the fence. And

1:20:46

Israel, up till that moment,

1:20:49

felt like this was a tactical

1:20:51

issue. Now, they

1:20:53

get more, Hamas, Gaza

1:20:56

gets more money from the international

1:20:58

aid community than any people

1:21:01

on the face of the earth. Gaza

1:21:04

has got more per capita than

1:21:06

we gave to the Marshall Plan

1:21:08

to rebuild all of Europe after

1:21:11

World War II. They

1:21:13

get the Israelis when they, the Israelis walked

1:21:15

out of Gaza unilaterally and said, we're giving

1:21:18

it to you. We don't want

1:21:20

any more disputes. They took 9,000

1:21:22

Jewish families who lived there in beautiful

1:21:24

hours along the Gaza coast. They

1:21:27

forced them to leave. They was very unpopular.

1:21:30

They didn't want their Jewish graves to be

1:21:32

defaced, so they dug up the Jewish graveyards

1:21:35

and brought them out. They removed the IDF,

1:21:37

and they said, we're going to give you

1:21:39

a going away present to Hamas, to Gaza.

1:21:42

We're going to give you 3,000 greenhouses

1:21:45

that are worth a lot

1:21:48

of money, that make Gaza food

1:21:50

self-sufficient. Not only that, I'm net

1:21:52

food exporter. And

1:21:54

for free, we are

1:21:56

going to rebuild the port of Gaza, which is

1:21:58

a beautiful port, but It's

1:22:01

inadequate and we're good so that you can make

1:22:03

it the Singapore of the West. Gaza

1:22:06

should be an economic Eden with all the money

1:22:08

that's been poured here. What have they done with

1:22:11

the money? Hamas. They've

1:22:13

hijacked their own people. They

1:22:16

have deprived and starved their own people.

1:22:18

They've made all of their leaders billionaires.

1:22:20

They'd only even live in Gaza. They

1:22:22

live in Doha and they live in

1:22:24

Awkrad, Turkey and Doha and Qatar in

1:22:28

huge palaces. They're

1:22:30

surrounded by guards. They

1:22:33

built 300 miles of tunnels. This is what

1:22:35

they did with the money they were supposed

1:22:37

to be building for people, poor Palestinians

1:22:40

who were stuck in refugee camps, build them

1:22:43

houses. We put plenty of

1:22:45

concrete money. They built 300

1:22:47

miles of tunnels, 1300 tunnels. And

1:22:51

they bought weapons. They bought drones.

1:22:53

They bought missiles. They tore up the

1:22:56

state of the art irrigation system. And

1:22:58

the Israelis that built, you know, Gaza's an

1:23:01

oasis. That's why it's there. It had

1:23:03

great fresh water. They destroyed it. They destroyed the fresh

1:23:05

water. It's now all saltwater infiltration

1:23:07

as they stopped regulating and well

1:23:09

drilling. They

1:23:11

tore up the irrigation system and

1:23:14

they cut the irrigation pipes into

1:23:16

rockets, turned them into rockets and

1:23:19

fired them at Israel. 30,000 rockets

1:23:21

before October 7th, 10,000 cents. Now,

1:23:24

one of the things they say is, oh,

1:23:26

the Israelis are using collective punishment

1:23:28

to starve us. Right?

1:23:33

And I have friends in Gaza, Palestinian friends.

1:23:35

I've spent, you know, I have a lot

1:23:37

of Palestinian friends all over Israel and the

1:23:40

West Bank. I've met with all the Palestinian

1:23:42

leadership in the West

1:23:44

Bank. Israel,

1:23:47

because Gaza has plenty of fresh water. It's

1:23:53

all, they have some of the best

1:23:55

dieselization plants in the world. But

1:23:58

they don't have any fuel for it. Why

1:24:00

don't they feel, first of all, Israel,

1:24:03

because they mismanaged their water, Israel

1:24:06

built its own pipes out

1:24:08

of humanitarian impulse upon

1:24:11

water in the Gaza. It's only 9 percent of

1:24:13

the water, so they're not shutting off all the

1:24:15

water. They shut off their

1:24:17

little 9 percent. Why?

1:24:20

Because Hamas bombed the pipes. And

1:24:22

then they wouldn't let food out. They, Hamas

1:24:25

to this day is sending hundreds of rockets

1:24:27

every day. Why is Israel going to bring

1:24:30

food in there and get bombed by

1:24:32

rockets and fuel trucks? Now,

1:24:35

Hamas says, oh, you didn't give us enough food

1:24:37

for the hospitals. Hamas

1:24:40

in the tunnels is storing 1.5 million liters

1:24:42

of fuel. And

1:24:46

they were starving their own population. They

1:24:48

didn't build a single bomb shelter in

1:24:50

all of Gaza. They

1:24:53

said the tunnels, we don't let the

1:24:55

population into the tunnels. Those

1:24:57

are for our fighters, 40,000 fighters. They're

1:25:01

the ones who can stay in the tunnels. The

1:25:03

population is up there, and they put their

1:25:06

armories, their fuel dumps, their

1:25:09

headquarters, their command headquarters

1:25:11

under mosques, hospitals,

1:25:14

residential housing, and schools. They

1:25:17

use their civilians and shields. And

1:25:21

how do we know they have all this fuel?

1:25:23

Well, there's proof. Because

1:25:26

those weapons and rockets they're sending on Israel

1:25:28

right now, 10,000 since October

1:25:30

7, require huge

1:25:32

amounts of fuel to fire them.

1:25:35

So they were using the fuel for the

1:25:37

rockets and not letting their public

1:25:40

get it for the incubators in the hospital. What

1:25:43

did Israel do? Risk the

1:25:45

lives of IDF soldiers to

1:25:47

go into Gaza and bring

1:25:50

the incubators, enough fuel for those incubators. And

1:25:52

they got Hamas to the hospital administrators. If

1:25:55

you go to the corner and pick them

1:25:57

up, because Israel left it on the corner.

1:26:00

They didn't want to go in there. We'll

1:26:02

shoot you. And so then Israel's

1:26:04

had IDF soldiers to actually bring it into

1:26:06

the hospital. Now, they

1:26:09

say they're targeting civilians. Well,

1:26:12

here's what Israel has done. Israel

1:26:14

used high tech to avoid civilian casualties.

1:26:16

It has already made 20,000 phone calls

1:26:22

with Israeli soldiers

1:26:24

who speak Arabic before they

1:26:26

bomb a bill. If they're going to

1:26:28

bomb a target that is a high

1:26:31

value target, like a terrorist in a

1:26:33

group, they don't give any warning. But

1:26:37

90% of their targets are infrastructure. And they

1:26:39

always warn in advance. And they warn people

1:26:41

to go to the south so

1:26:44

that they can root out the terrorists. They

1:26:46

also go neighborhood by neighborhood and say,

1:26:49

tomorrow we're going to bomb your neighborhood.

1:26:51

They've made phone calls to the landlords

1:26:53

and to the individuals. But a lot of

1:26:55

their phones don't have connectivity now. So

1:26:58

they drop leaflets. Leaflets are color

1:27:01

coded by neighborhood and by time

1:27:03

so that you know

1:27:05

that it was meant for you on this date.

1:27:07

You're not picking up an old leaflet and reading

1:27:09

it. They've made

1:27:12

1.2 million robo calls,

1:27:14

sent 1.2 million leaflets. And

1:27:16

then before they bomb

1:27:18

an apartment building, they send a little

1:27:20

piece of ordinance, a little tiny missile

1:27:22

called a roof knocker. They

1:27:25

send it from a drone or helicopter. And

1:27:27

it goes and hits the top. And

1:27:30

everybody knows that's the signal that within

1:27:32

one hour or two hours, that building

1:27:34

is going to be dropped. Or

1:27:37

what? What happens, a

1:27:39

mob won't let the people leave. It

1:27:42

forces them to stay there because they know that's how

1:27:44

it makes money, by killing its

1:27:46

own civilians. And there

1:27:49

has never been an army in the history of the world

1:27:52

and has been more willing

1:27:54

to sacrifice its mothers, its

1:27:56

wives, its daughters, and its

1:27:58

children. the enemy.

1:28:01

And you know if you think there's not

1:28:03

a moral difference between Hamas and Israel, consider

1:28:06

this. What would

1:28:08

happen if Israel decided to

1:28:11

use human shields? Do

1:28:15

you think Hamas would stop? Every Jew in

1:28:17

Israel would be killed. Hamas's charter incidentally

1:28:20

says it's against Islam to

1:28:23

negotiate with Jews unless you're fooling

1:28:25

them. Number two,

1:28:29

Israel doesn't exist. It is our

1:28:31

country and we are going and

1:28:33

our mission is to annihilate it.

1:28:37

Number three, we're not only going to kill every

1:28:39

Jew in Israel, we're going to kill every Jew

1:28:41

in the world. That's in its

1:28:43

charter. And

1:28:45

this is an old language. They, Ismail

1:28:48

Haini was an RT a week ago saying, yeah, that's

1:28:50

what we're going to do. We're going to do this

1:28:52

again and again and again and again. Oh,

1:28:55

telling Israel you've got to negotiate. It's

1:28:58

I don't, you know, what are they

1:29:01

going to negotiate over? Is that they

1:29:03

consider Hamas considered it against a violation

1:29:05

of Treasury to Islam to

1:29:08

negotiate with the Israelis. I don't see,

1:29:10

you know, I, my heart breaks for

1:29:12

the Palestinian people. And I have a

1:29:14

friend who's there who has five children

1:29:16

who's in South Gaza right now. And

1:29:19

I, you know, I had to send

1:29:21

him money this morning and,

1:29:24

you know, their lives are horrible. But

1:29:26

I don't blame the Israelis. I blame

1:29:28

and I, you know, I'm not cosigning

1:29:30

anything for Netanyahu or Likud. But

1:29:34

I, you know, I blame, I blame Hamas.

1:29:36

My concern is as a person who lived

1:29:38

in Iran for 10 years, I'm in America

1:29:40

because, you know, some I interviewed

1:29:42

the Crown Prince of Iran a couple of weeks

1:29:44

ago. And we had a great conversation. Some of

1:29:46

the things his father, that he wasn't too paranoid

1:29:48

enough, Iran fell. US wasn't paranoid

1:29:50

enough. We got attacked and maybe Israel wasn't

1:29:53

paranoid enough. Hamas attacked them. That's where my

1:29:55

question was coming from. Well, go for it.

1:29:58

Mr. Kennedy, thank you for the opportunity. for the

1:30:00

question. Before I heard Joe Rogan

1:30:03

talk about your book, The Real Anthony Fauci, I

1:30:06

was sadly misinformed and under the

1:30:08

impression that RFK Jr. was a

1:30:10

kooky, quote unquote, anti-vaxxer. If

1:30:12

it weren't for independent media sources and podcasts,

1:30:14

I would have never had the chance to

1:30:16

hear the thoughts of my now favorite presidential

1:30:19

candidate, who I believe may be able to

1:30:21

save and unite our country in this sad,

1:30:23

scary time. What

1:30:25

do you plan to do as president

1:30:27

to empower, protect and elevate independent media

1:30:29

sources and podcasts such as PBD and

1:30:32

Valuetainment, Joe Rogan Experience, Crystal Ball and

1:30:34

Sagar and many more? That's

1:30:37

a great question. I can tell you this that

1:30:39

on day one, I'm going

1:30:42

to issue a executive

1:30:44

order to all federal employees,

1:30:48

making it a firing

1:30:51

offense to collaborate

1:30:53

with media to censor political speech in

1:30:55

this country, social media or media. And

1:30:58

that would apply to the CIA, the

1:31:01

FBI, DHS and all of the agencies

1:31:03

we now know from the Twitter files

1:31:06

and other sources, including live litigation, which

1:31:09

is in the Supreme Court right now,

1:31:12

Kennedy versus Biden and Missouri versus

1:31:14

Biden. We know from discovery in

1:31:16

those that they were collaborating with

1:31:18

over a dozen agencies

1:31:21

to censor political speech in this

1:31:23

country. And I

1:31:25

started getting censored by the

1:31:29

White House 37 hours after President

1:31:31

Biden took the oath of office.

1:31:33

And that is all outlined in

1:31:38

a 55 page federal court

1:31:41

decision. And

1:31:43

that's wrong in our country. Freedom

1:31:45

of speech is the central foundation

1:31:47

stone of our country. And

1:31:50

there's no time in history when we look

1:31:52

back and say the people who were censoring

1:31:54

speech were the good guys. They're

1:31:57

always the bad guys. They're, you know,

1:31:59

it's always. The

1:32:01

first step toward totalitarian

1:32:03

rule, Madison Adams said

1:32:05

we put the guarantee

1:32:07

of freedom of expression in the First Amendment because

1:32:10

all the other rights are dependent on it. If

1:32:13

you have a government that can silence

1:32:16

its opponent, it has license for any

1:32:18

atrocity. And

1:32:20

we all grew up reading Orwell and

1:32:23

Aldous Huxley

1:32:25

and Robert

1:32:28

Highline and Solzhenitsyn

1:32:32

and all of these

1:32:35

other writers who were telling us one after

1:32:37

the other in our civics class everything else

1:32:39

that if you want to

1:32:41

destroy democracy, the first place you start

1:32:43

is censoring speech. I

1:32:45

thought we all knew that. And it

1:32:47

is weird to me that there are so many people in

1:32:50

my Democratic

1:32:52

party who still think it's okay as

1:32:54

long as the speech

1:32:56

is Republican speech or it's anti-war

1:32:59

or anti-vax or whatever that you're okay

1:33:01

censoring that as long as you don't

1:33:03

have a censoring speech. Great

1:33:07

question by the way. Thank you. One

1:33:09

of the things that a lot of us

1:33:11

are curious about and we're enamored by the

1:33:13

60th anniversary of your uncle's assassination just recently

1:33:16

passed us. And every time a president,

1:33:19

a candidate is running, if I become

1:33:21

a president, I'm going to release 100%

1:33:24

of the files and then afterwards they get in

1:33:26

there like, well, you know, not necessarily a little

1:33:28

bit, maybe, maybe later, all this stuff for

1:33:31

yourself. I know you work with in

1:33:34

California, you actually met Sirhan Sirhan, if I'm

1:33:36

not mistaken. You had a meeting with him

1:33:39

and you stated you believe in the

1:33:41

overwhelming evidence that he is not your

1:33:43

father's killer. Even writing a

1:33:45

letter to the parole board on his behalf, there

1:33:47

is nobody else that's felt the pain more than

1:33:49

the son of a father who was assassinated,

1:33:52

who is going to spend his entire life

1:33:54

wanting to find out who was behind it.

1:33:57

So there's nobody who has more moral authority to go

1:33:59

to a person. who is claimed to have been the

1:34:01

killer and says, I don't think this guy did it. Then

1:34:03

eventually you even Governor Newsom reversed

1:34:06

the decision of the board parole hearings

1:34:08

to grant parole to Sirhan Sirhan. Newsom

1:34:10

declined the opportunity, as you called it,

1:34:12

to demonstrate the humanity, compassion, idealism of

1:34:14

our justice system to which my father

1:34:16

devoted his life to. This is you

1:34:18

saying this. So one,

1:34:22

you become a president. Are you

1:34:25

100% committing to releasing every data intel

1:34:29

you have, even if that means

1:34:31

undermining the CIA, which many of these

1:34:33

fear that if you do that, the

1:34:36

American people, as if they don't trust the CIA

1:34:38

enough, it's going to go even lower than lower

1:34:40

than lower, you know, of where we're at

1:34:43

with that. So one, are you willing to commit to that? And

1:34:45

two, when you hear stories about

1:34:47

Sirhan Sirhan still being in jail, why

1:34:49

is Newsom not releasing him?

1:34:51

Yeah, I mean, the,

1:34:55

I'm going to release them, you know, immediately.

1:34:59

At least all the time. Now, I find it odd

1:35:01

that President Biden, it's first of all, illegal not to

1:35:03

release him on the 2017 JFK assassination

1:35:06

documents act, everything had to be released.

1:35:09

So and by 2017. Oh,

1:35:12

and President Biden committed

1:35:17

to do it. And then why do you

1:35:19

think we haven't talked? I don't know. You

1:35:21

know, the guy to ask that is President

1:35:23

Trump, because President Trump also committed

1:35:26

to it. I don't understand it. I'm not going

1:35:28

to pretend to understand it, because President Trump did

1:35:30

not like the CIA. So, you

1:35:32

know, clearly, they're keeping it quiet,

1:35:35

not everybody who

1:35:38

is involved in my uncle's assassination, practically, everybody

1:35:40

is dead. The

1:35:42

only reason to keep it

1:35:44

secret at this point is

1:35:46

because there's some institutional liabilities,

1:35:48

there's institutional reputational liabilities that

1:35:50

they don't want us to

1:35:53

know about it. That's the opposite of

1:35:55

democracy. Democracy about transparency. We own these

1:35:57

agencies, they're supposed to be working. working

1:36:00

for us, they need to tell

1:36:02

us what happened. And it's the

1:36:04

most consequential crime of our,

1:36:11

probably of our history. And we

1:36:13

ought to know what happened. In

1:36:16

terms of my, when I was

1:36:18

a little kid, I was in the White House standing

1:36:20

next to my uncle's casket in

1:36:22

the East Room. And

1:36:25

President Johnson comes in and he

1:36:27

tells my mother, my father and

1:36:29

Jackie, that a

1:36:33

man named Jack Ruby had just killed Lee Harvey

1:36:36

Oswald, who had shot my

1:36:38

uncle, who they say shot my uncle. And

1:36:41

at that point, I said to my mother

1:36:44

and father, I said, why did he do

1:36:46

that? Did he love our family? Because he

1:36:48

did it in a police station in broad

1:36:50

daylight in front of cameras. Why

1:36:53

would anybody do that? And

1:36:56

I said, did he love our family? And

1:36:58

it turns out he

1:37:01

did not. He was a mobster and

1:37:03

was all involved with the people that my father

1:37:06

was putting in jail, but deeply involved with the

1:37:08

CIA. And

1:37:11

this kind of gun running subculture

1:37:13

that was involved with Cuba. But

1:37:17

at that point, my little 10 year

1:37:20

old mind was saying, this makes no sense.

1:37:22

And I don't think it made sense to

1:37:24

anybody. But I

1:37:26

always assumed Sir Henn killed my father. He

1:37:29

confessed to the crime. He

1:37:31

had, you know, he said he didn't remember

1:37:33

anything, but

1:37:36

he pled guilty and

1:37:38

he didn't have a trial. He had a

1:37:40

kind of a sentencing hearing because he pled

1:37:42

guilty. So

1:37:45

I always assumed that, and then a

1:37:47

man named Paul Schrade who had been

1:37:49

a very close friend of my father's

1:37:51

and political associate, he was one of

1:37:53

the top deputies of the United Auto

1:37:55

Workers. And

1:37:58

he had introduced my father to Saint-Garcia. Cesar Chavez

1:38:01

and recruited Cesar Chavez to the labor

1:38:03

movement. So he was very close. Cesar

1:38:05

Chavez became one of my

1:38:07

father's most important political allies. Schrade

1:38:11

was standing next to my father when

1:38:13

the shooting started, and he took the first

1:38:15

bullet to his head. And

1:38:19

he was okay in the long run, but he

1:38:21

was shot in the head. Sirhan

1:38:25

fired two shots at my father.

1:38:28

The first one hit Paul Schrade. And

1:38:32

Paul Schrade, incidentally, at the time,

1:38:34

the punch line, called me and

1:38:36

said, I don't know,

1:38:38

ten years ago, and said, I want

1:38:40

you to come to my house and

1:38:42

read the autopsy report on your dad.

1:38:46

You can imagine the last thing in the world that I

1:38:48

ever wanted to do. But

1:38:50

I couldn't say no to him because he had

1:38:52

taken a bullet for my father. And

1:38:56

he was a good friend, so I went and talked to

1:38:58

him. And

1:39:00

he showed me the autopsy report and then,

1:39:02

you know, a lot of other information.

1:39:04

But essentially, after reading that,

1:39:06

it was impossible for me to believe that

1:39:08

Sirhan had killed my dad. And I'll tell

1:39:12

you why. Paul, Sirhan fired two shots

1:39:14

at my father. The first one, he

1:39:16

hit my father. He put Paul Schrade

1:39:18

in the head. And the second one

1:39:21

hit a door jam, a wooden

1:39:23

door jam behind my father and was

1:39:25

later removed from that door

1:39:27

jam by the LAPD. At

1:39:31

that point, he was grabbed. It was a

1:39:33

crowded room. There were 77 people in the

1:39:35

room in

1:39:37

the kitchen. And he was standing in

1:39:39

front of a steam table. My father was five

1:39:41

feet in front of him. My father

1:39:43

never turned his back. All kinds

1:39:45

of eyewitnesses. He

1:39:48

was grabbed by six men, including Rayford

1:39:50

Johnson, who I've talked to about it,

1:39:52

Rosie Greer, you know, was part of

1:39:55

the fearsome, foursome, and other

1:39:57

Oakland Raiders. and

1:40:01

four other guys, men, and they piled on

1:40:03

top of them. Ray for Johnson said to

1:40:05

me, Sir, as

1:40:07

a little tiny guy, and almost

1:40:11

feeble looking, I mean, today he's feeble looking.

1:40:13

I spent about three hours with him in

1:40:15

jail, sitting in the prison with him.

1:40:19

These men took his hand, the

1:40:21

first thing they did and pointed away from my

1:40:24

father, but Ray for Johnson said, toward

1:40:27

the other end of the room, Ray for

1:40:29

Johnson said to me, Ray for

1:40:31

Johnson was a decathlon champion, in

1:40:34

1960, a huge guy, super strong,

1:40:36

and he said,

1:40:38

little man had superhuman strength, and

1:40:40

I could not get the gun away

1:40:43

from him, and he emptied the revolver,

1:40:45

it was a revolver, he emptied it,

1:40:47

he had eight shots in it, and

1:40:49

he never reloaded, and he shot six

1:40:52

times in the other direction. All

1:40:54

six of those bullets hit people, five

1:40:57

of them, one

1:41:00

of them had went through once,

1:41:02

one guy's closing, and another, it

1:41:05

also went into his leg. He

1:41:07

had people in the stomach, we know what happened

1:41:09

to every one of those bullets, right?

1:41:12

That's eight bullets, we know what

1:41:14

happened to every one of them. My

1:41:17

father, the autopsy report shows, was

1:41:19

shot four times from behind, and

1:41:24

they were contact shot, one of them went through,

1:41:26

one of them did not hurt him, but went

1:41:28

through the shoulder pad of his jacket.

1:41:31

The other ones all hit him, and

1:41:34

the last one, which was the most fatal,

1:41:36

was right behind his ear, an inch from

1:41:39

his ear, but with the barrel touching his

1:41:41

skin, and

1:41:43

the other ones were all contact shots, meaning

1:41:45

that they were within probably a half an

1:41:47

inch of his

1:41:50

skin and clothing, and they left carbon tattoos on

1:41:52

his skin, and

1:41:54

Sir Anne was never behind my father, and

1:41:57

there was many, many eyewitnesses. Oh,

1:42:01

the guy who almost certainly fired that

1:42:03

shot, those shots, was a man called

1:42:05

Eugene Thansasar. And Eugene Thansasar died a

1:42:08

year and a half ago in the

1:42:10

Philippines. I was in conversations trying to

1:42:12

see him and he said he would

1:42:14

talk to me. And

1:42:16

I had to pay him $10,000 and then when I

1:42:19

was about to leave he said, now I want $20,000

1:42:21

and then he said I

1:42:24

want $25,000 and I realized he's

1:42:26

playing me so I didn't go. He

1:42:32

was a security guard

1:42:35

who had gotten a job the day before when

1:42:39

people already knew where my father was going. His

1:42:42

real job was

1:42:45

in the, he originally worked for

1:42:47

Hughes Tool, which is a

1:42:49

military contractor owned by Howard Hughes and

1:42:52

run by a lot of guys from

1:42:54

Las Vegas and then he went to

1:42:57

Boeing and Lockheed and he had top

1:42:59

secret clearance. And he

1:43:01

was, he described himself, Lisa

1:43:03

Pease, who's an author, and

1:43:07

documents where he described himself

1:43:09

as a CIA agent. So,

1:43:12

and he was very public

1:43:15

about his hatred for my father and he thought

1:43:18

my father was going to turn

1:43:21

the country over to black people and

1:43:24

he, and you

1:43:26

know, he then lied continuously to the

1:43:29

police. By the way, my father

1:43:32

when he fell, fell

1:43:34

on to Cesar and Cesar was under,

1:43:36

Cesar escorted him. He wasn't supposed to

1:43:39

go into the kitchen. He

1:43:41

grabbed him by his, his elbow and

1:43:43

escorted him into the ambush, Surhan's

1:43:48

ambush. And presumably while

1:43:50

Surhan was shooting and everybody could

1:43:52

see this man firing, he was

1:43:55

quietly, the bullets, my father, The

1:44:00

gun was laying against some skin, and all

1:44:02

of them were on an upward trajectory. This

1:44:05

is what the autopsy report shows. And

1:44:09

my father must have known that he

1:44:11

was being shot by Surhan because he

1:44:13

turned and pulled off. As

1:44:16

he was falling, he pulled off Cesar's

1:44:19

clip on tie. And if you see the

1:44:21

pictures of my father lying on the ground,

1:44:25

some of the early ones have a clip on

1:44:27

tie. My mother took that out

1:44:29

and put a rosary in my dad's hand. Oh,

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but the original ones have that clip on

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tie. And Cesar, there's a picture of Cesar

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with no tie on. And

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so, you know, he would, and

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by the way, 12 people

1:44:49

saw him when he got up, he pushed my

1:44:51

father's off of him and stood up and he

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had his gun drawn. And

1:44:56

when the police came, he said he had

1:44:58

pulled his gun. The

1:45:00

fire had Surhan, but

1:45:03

they never confiscated his gun. And

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