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It is Tuesday here at JILS

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And where is Deuce by the.

2:48

Way, he is at Brendan's schooler

2:50

and Marte Mapu.

2:51

Because I heard him this morning on ninety

2:53

eight point five giving his synopsis

2:55

of of of rookie Mini

2:57

Camp and Drake May and the why

3:00

receivers Joe Milton. You

3:04

know, I I Paul, So

3:08

I listened to Deuce. Yes, and I

3:11

wasn't there. I wasn't there on Saturday. So

3:13

yes, so I'm relying on what

3:15

I'm hearing. I listened to Deuce this

3:17

morning and then I see Tom Curran. Somebody

3:20

said that Tom Curran said he thought

3:22

Joe Milton was the more accurate of the

3:24

two quarterbacks.

3:26

Oh, I mean, are we really doing that?

3:28

According to Deuce, she should not be doing that.

3:30

That wasn't the case.

3:31

So Evan, what do you think

3:34

I'm gonna take the last hour and fifty minutes

3:36

off.

3:37

I gotta be honest with you, I think crading

3:39

either one of those guys off of that practice

3:41

is foolish.

3:43

Yeah.

3:43

I mean we were out there for one hour.

3:46

There was one seven on seven period at the

3:48

tail end of practice that was maybe three quarter

3:50

speed. That was not That

3:53

was not real football. And to sit here

3:55

and dissect these guys

3:57

based off of shorts and a T shirt and a rookie

4:00

and he can practice is not what it's all about.

4:02

Right.

4:02

But with that being said, I

4:05

think that what you saw with both guys is that

4:08

they have a new type at the quarterback

4:10

position. I mean, they're two

4:13

athletic, bigger guys, big

4:16

arms, you know, have good arm talent,

4:18

good zip on the ball, that are

4:20

going to have to work through some

4:23

inaccuracies and mechanical issues.

4:25

And I think the biggest thing with Drake

4:28

May is they weren't really doing stuff

4:30

at full speed because I think they're trying to

4:32

develop good habits first. You know, let's

4:34

start it at half speed with doing

4:36

it correctly, and then let's build it up

4:39

from there and eventually we'll get to full

4:41

speed. So if you wanted

4:43

to get into who was more accurate. You

4:46

know, Drake May I think was five

4:48

of six in his seven on seven and Joe

4:50

Milton was like one of four or one of five,

4:53

So I'm not sure how you would say he was the more accurate

4:55

quarterback. But again I'm not I'm

4:59

not giving over poor card based off

5:01

of a rookie mini camp practice. I'm just not

5:03

doing it.

5:04

Okay, I just got to send this text

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to somebody.

5:07

Yeah, I mean, I just think it's unfortunately

5:11

it was predictable, and I did see some

5:14

people tweeting the numbers that Evan

5:16

just talked about. Yeah,

5:19

I think it's unfortunate that these guys

5:21

get out there and they're basically just sort of

5:24

learning where to go and what to do and

5:26

how to go about trying to be patriots.

5:29

And many of the people that were even out there weren't

5:31

even officially patriots yet there were

5:34

those like twenty guysts on tryouts.

5:36

So I thought it

5:38

was a little unfortunate but not overly surprising

5:41

to see people tweeting about, you know, Drake

5:44

May was five or six, Joe Milton was one.

5:46

For Like, I agree with Evan,

5:48

I think that both guys have

5:51

immense physical skills, and

5:53

that's all you can really learn at a

5:55

rookie mini camp our window.

5:57

But these things we knew.

5:59

Yeeah, Yeah, I mean I saw a more strong

6:01

athletic who can throw the ball.

6:03

Yeah, I mean I saw more in terms of what

6:06

Drake May can do at his pro day and I

6:08

saw on Saturday.

6:09

I meant, yeah.

6:11

Like, I think he threw something

6:13

like almost seventy five passes at his pro

6:15

day and this one he threw maybe ten that

6:17

were like you could even call passes, you

6:19

know, that weren't warm up tosses. So we

6:23

were talking about it and I said to everybody

6:25

that was there, I was like, this is this is nothing

6:27

Like he's throwing a five yard slant like

6:29

you know, his pro day, he's throwing fifty yards

6:32

off his back foot, Like, well wait until

6:34

you see you know them really get into it.

6:37

So I think the biggest thing

6:39

that you take away from these practices

6:41

are two things like who's working with who

6:43

in terms of the coaching staff was interesting.

6:46

You know, the group the core group of

6:48

guys that quarterbacks coach TC McCartney,

6:51

obviously Alex man Pelt, Ben McAdoo

6:54

and then off to the side doing his Ernie Adams

6:56

impersonation was Evan Rossty and

6:58

you know, with the arms folded. I read that in

7:00

your Yeah, it

7:02

looked exactly or tried

7:04

to look exactly like Ernie would look.

7:06

So, you know, those you don't want to be exactly

7:08

like you.

7:09

No, well close enough. Those

7:11

four guys were the ones that were around

7:13

the quarterbacks. McCartney

7:15

and a VP definitely were the hands on

7:17

guys. McAdoo was more just observing

7:20

what was going on. And I think

7:22

the other thing that you took away a

7:24

little bit is just the budding relationship

7:27

between Drake May and Jalen

7:29

Polk specifically, but also

7:32

Javon Baker was in there, Jean Bell,

7:35

Kitaan Wallace. These guys, I think realized

7:37

that this is this is their

7:39

team. You know, this is their job right

7:41

now is to get this offense going and get

7:43

this off the mat and you know, to

7:46

to really get Patriots football back on the

7:48

map. And they're embracing

7:50

that.

7:51

It's like though, you know, so you go to rookie camp and

7:53

everyone's kind of in the same boat. Yeah, and then

7:55

all of a sudden the veterans come in, Yeah,

7:57

and it's like, oh, yeah, I better

7:59

shut up.

8:00

Yeah, I mean, Drake was the man on Saturday.

8:02

Like you could tell that, you know, everybody was kind

8:04

of gravitating towards him. He had a big smile

8:06

on his face the whole time. But you're right,

8:08

you know, once Matthew Judan and David

8:11

Andrews and you know some of these other guys

8:13

start to get into camp and OTAs

8:15

and things like that, we'll see, you

8:17

know, what he looks like then. But there was no doubt

8:19

about it that the leader on the field on Saturday

8:22

was Drake May.

8:23

Yeah.

8:23

I want to echo what Evan said about Jalen Polk

8:25

and Drake May. They were definitely thing one and thing two,

8:28

Like Polk waiting for Drake to

8:30

finish his price conference and just watching them

8:32

afterwards. They had definitely have like

8:34

a natural chemistry with each other. You can even

8:36

It's like, wasn't just something that you saw on TikTok

8:39

on the Bruins TikTok, the NHL TikTok

8:41

over the weekend. Yeah, they were actually like that

8:43

at practice too, So it wasn't just like for

8:45

social media that everyone's seeing these que folks.

8:47

You think they were told, Hey, get to know each other

8:50

or do you think they did that on their own.

8:51

So they've been staying at the hotel

8:54

together, all the rookies, and

8:57

they have rooms that Drake May said that are right across

8:59

the hall from each other. And you

9:01

know, he said, it's all they're all football right now.

9:03

There's nothing else to do, is what he said. And

9:06

so you know, really all they're doing is going

9:09

back and forth between rooms and you know,

9:11

talking football and probably you know, having

9:13

some fun and doing other things too, but you

9:16

know it's it's a yeah

9:18

exactly. You know, maybe someone's brought an x Box

9:20

with him or something like that at PS five

9:23

and then you'd start to bond for

9:25

lack of a better word, I mean that's the word. I guess stuff.

9:28

And then chiming in on what Evan said about just watching

9:31

like who was with Drake May. My

9:33

favorite question from the press conference

9:35

with Drod Mayo was him identifying,

9:37

like who is going to be the main person in Drake

9:40

May's ear, Like, obviously you see all these people on

9:42

the field around him, but he specifically

9:44

said a VP is going to be the one

9:47

specifically talking to him.

9:48

Yeah, the lead guy.

9:49

I think it's good I'm not. I

9:52

don't care who it is. Yeah, there should

9:54

be one person.

9:55

Yeah, yeah, that was a little bit.

9:57

I think something that you do worry

9:59

about, if you want to worry about anything from

10:01

a one hour practice in rookie mini camp,

10:03

is there's a lot of cooks in the kitchen on

10:05

the offensive side of the ball. And

10:08

I'm not exactly sure that Gerard Mayo knows where

10:10

his chef hat fits into

10:12

all of this on either side of the

10:14

ball. Frankly, you know, I think he's still trying

10:17

to figure out what's best

10:19

use of my time, you know, where should I Should

10:21

I be just focused on running the

10:24

defense and you know, doing that

10:26

sort of thing, or should I be like a CEO like

10:28

Bill was and float and you know, go around

10:30

to every single position group and I

10:32

you know, I think he's still trying to learn where

10:35

exactly he belongs. You know, he said

10:37

that he's spent a lot of time with the

10:39

offense, but most of their draft picks were on the

10:41

offensive side of the ball, So that makes

10:43

a lot of sense.

10:44

So speaking of Gerard, how did he look I

10:47

was as a head coach? Like, did

10:49

he look like a head coach out there? What was his

10:51

demeanor.

10:52

Uh, Like I said, I think you

10:54

know, he was floating a lot, you know, in terms

10:56

of going to each position group,

10:59

offense, defense and special teams even

11:01

and just kind of roaming around the field like

11:03

Bill would. And I think right now he's he's

11:06

sort of trying to figure out what his style.

11:09

Bill Bill would stop and probably

11:12

give one on one tips to guys.

11:14

Yeah. I didn't see a lot of that. This was like hands

11:16

off, let the coordinators and the position

11:18

coaches do their jobs and sort

11:21

of observe Ye for right

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Okay, I didn't forget.

11:52

Okay, So your

11:55

point about whether or not they may

11:57

have told or suggested that,

12:00

you know, guys spend some time. I think

12:02

there's probably some some

12:04

truth to that. Yeah, you know why, you know, why wouldn't

12:06

you want, you know, jayvon Baker and Polk

12:09

to be you know, with with may in

12:12

Milton too. I mean like they're they're all

12:14

rookies, they're you know, they're gonna be with each other.

12:17

Reading some of the stuff because I wasn't here

12:19

for the practice, but reading some of the stuff, seems

12:22

like the two rookie offensive linemen. Also

12:24

the draft picks, I should say, I know there's probably Robinson

12:27

and Wallace both spoke

12:29

about how they've sort of been inseparable

12:32

since they've been here, and

12:35

you know, for what it's worth, they were playing on

12:37

the both of them on the left side, left guard

12:39

for Robinson, left tackle for

12:41

for Wallace, So similar kind

12:43

of thing. You know, these guys get drafted

12:46

with the third and fourth round picks, they're probably

12:48

going to be here for at least a year.

12:51

Might as well get comfortable with one another.

12:53

Yeah, yeah, I just really quickly just on

12:55

the receivers too, because I know people probably want

12:57

to know what's going on with them. I out

13:00

that both of them were pretty much as advertised.

13:02

I wasn't blown away or

13:04

thought, oh that I didn't realize that about

13:06

this guy or that guy. I think, you know, Jalen Polk

13:08

looks like a guy that's a craftsman like.

13:10

He looks like he knows how to get open. He very

13:13

shifty, very heady with

13:15

his routes, great hands. We saw in a

13:17

couple of instances where he made some really good

13:19

catches with his hands as well, And you know, just

13:22

exactly what I thought he would be. Not

13:24

necessarily burner, but you know, someone that just

13:27

has that ability, kind of like a Jacobe Myers

13:29

to just get open and has

13:31

a good feel for the game and instincts. Javon

13:33

Baker definitely has another gear, you

13:36

know, a little bit more of an explosive burst to

13:38

him through the top of the route that

13:40

is there, that's present.

13:42

But he's sort of like Jerry Rice and John Taylor.

13:44

Exactly the comparison I was gonna

13:47

go for there, Yeah, only

13:49

maybe a little bit better. Yeah no,

13:51

Yeah, So I would say that with Javon

13:53

Baker, But he had some inconsistencies, He

13:55

had some drops, you know, had some things

13:58

that they're trying to work on with him, think in

14:00

terms of his route running and stuff like that. So

14:02

exactly what I kind of expected you had one

14:04

that was maybe a little bit more

14:07

eye popping in terms of the way that he moves in Jay

14:09

Von Baker, and then you have sort of the

14:11

pro already with a guy like Jalen Polk.

14:14

Okay, and what's next up? We have

14:16

the OTA Yeah, Otazer. First

14:18

one is on May twelve. First one that's open to the

14:20

media is on May twentieth, So next

14:23

week day, Yeah, yep, so

14:25

that'll be a big day. Yeah, and that will

14:28

have veterans like that's not just the rookies

14:30

and everything.

14:31

So yeah, okay, looking forward to

14:33

that. The best arm I saw was

14:37

on Drew Bledsoe's instagram and throwing

14:39

to Julian Edelman. Did you see that rifle

14:42

that wetso still has, still

14:44

got it? I mean, it comes off

14:47

that hand fast.

14:48

Yeah, I mean, and it came off both the

14:50

rookies hands fast too. I mean Joe Millon made a

14:52

throw rolling to his left where

14:54

he just kind of flipped his hips up the field and

14:57

you saw it like you were like, Okay, that's

14:59

that's a powerful arm right there. Drake

15:02

May I would say, throws a more catchable ball.

15:05

Joe Milton is all gas like he's throwing a ninety

15:07

nine mile an hour fastball. Whether you're five yards

15:09

away or your twenty five yards away, there's

15:12

no in between. Drake May throws

15:14

that little bit more like pillowey, you know, touch

15:16

type of throw.

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15:19

of the world rights. In his podcast about rookie

15:21

minicamp, Tom Kerran described

15:24

Drake May's arm as above average. I

15:26

presume this is a bad take. I was surprised

15:28

to hear that, well above

15:30

averages.

15:31

Yeah, I take a Yeah,

15:34

I don't know. Everybody's getting on current. I guess

15:36

he like, isn't the Drake May guy and

15:38

has been killed. I don't know. I don't

15:41

know what he's I.

15:41

Didn't see that, but I don't take above average arm

15:43

strength as a negative. No,

15:46

unless he meant it that way, and maybe James

15:48

knows that Tom.

15:49

Was, so it could be the way he delivered

15:51

it.

15:51

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. James might average. That's

15:54

the way Tom meant it, Like I would say

15:56

Mac Jones's arm is below average, you

15:59

know, as a point of comparison.

16:00

Well, Jeffrey from Canada, can you visibly

16:02

see the difference in arm strength between May and

16:05

mac Jones.

16:06

Yes, yeah, yeah, I

16:08

think with Drake May's arm, you know, they're the

16:10

difference between arm

16:13

strength and arm talent

16:16

is a big thing. Like do I think that Drake

16:18

May has like one hundred and three mile

16:20

an hour fastball if you want to call it, like use

16:23

a baseball analogy. No, I don't think he's

16:25

got like a lead elite you

16:27

know, arm strength like a Josh

16:29

Allen who can just like throw it, you know, through

16:32

the door. But his

16:34

talent comes in with the different

16:37

angles and platforms that he can throw the ball

16:39

and still generate good velocity. You know, he

16:41

can throw the ball on the move. He can throw

16:43

it, you know, off his back foot and still be able

16:45

to push it down the field. He can you know, do the

16:47

old you know, drop it down and flick the wrist

16:50

and make it the throw fifty yards down the

16:52

field. Those types of things

16:54

I think if you wanted to put them side

16:56

by side, like Joe Milton has a bigger

16:58

arm than Drake May does.

17:00

But I don't think that Joe Millon has as

17:02

many pitches in the arsenal that Drake made

17:04

does.

17:05

And Jeffrey also wants to know can you explain the difference

17:07

between being able to throw the ball far versus

17:09

throwing hard.

17:11

I mean, I think that's it.

17:12

That's it. I mean, the harder

17:15

you throw it, the further it will go.

17:16

Like, I've never really seen an

17:18

NFL quarterback again, you know, like a

17:21

real, honest to goodness NFL quarterback

17:23

in other words, not that Tim Boyle guy that played for the

17:25

Jets last year. Yeah, but who who

17:27

can't actually throw the ball, say

17:29

sixty seventy yards down the field.

17:31

You don't get to that point without being it.

17:33

But some of though, some of them need to put

17:35

more air under it than others.

17:38

I don't know if I've ever seen someone throw a deep

17:40

ball as far on a line as Josh

17:43

Allen.

17:43

Yeah.

17:45

And I think that's where it's a little bit different

17:47

in terms of arm strength, because I think

17:49

a lot of people just look and they say, well,

17:52

Brady just dropped that in the bucket, you know, sixty

17:54

yards downfield. Yeah, he's

17:57

got good enough arm to throw the ball sixty

18:00

It's like everybody else. But

18:03

there's a difference between like Aaron Rodgers

18:05

deep ball and Josh Allen's

18:07

deep ball and most others.

18:09

Yeah, I wouldn't worry Ray's

18:12

armstrangth.

18:13

I don't worry about it at all, and I certainly wouldn't worry about

18:15

it with Joe Milton because I think he can throw it as well as anything.

18:17

Yeah, Joe Millen's got a rare arm

18:19

strength, but I wouldn't worry about it at

18:21

all. With Drake May. I think the biggest thing with him

18:24

is tying his feet to his arm,

18:26

right, like, he is getting his footwork and his mechanics

18:29

and his biomechanics tied

18:31

together so that he's not all armed.

18:34

I think sometimes he throws he relies too much

18:36

on just his pure arm strength. If

18:38

he can get it.

18:39

That was Cam Newton, I mean.

18:40

For sometimes Yeah, if he can get this

18:43

arm, if he can get his feet and all of

18:45

it tied together, then his

18:47

his arm strength is going to be more than adequate.

18:49

Chad from Schenectadyst. Schenectady

18:52

Right, So, I'm already sick of the fixed Drake

18:55

May wording being used by the media

18:57

and fans. The guy's not broken. He's

18:59

twenty one years old with two years of college starting

19:02

experience in a system with different quarterback

19:04

play.

19:05

So I'm wait, I'm in favor

19:07

of that.

19:08

Yeah, I mean we've been saying that the whole time.

19:10

He needs developing.

19:11

Yeah.

19:12

Yeah, like no one comes in as a finished

19:14

product. Yeah, like he needs to develop.

19:16

But I guess maybe fix

19:19

he's saying is the wrong word. I would say

19:21

refined, Yeah, refine improve.

19:23

Yeah. I mean, look, I think there's a lot of different

19:25

things that go into quarterback mechanics,

19:27

and I normally we whittle it down to footwork,

19:30

and that's like the biggest one.

19:31

I wanted to ask you guys about that because you both

19:33

were there to watch the practice, Like what

19:35

did you see in terms of footwork

19:38

or Yeah.

19:38

I mean they were doing everything at a very slow

19:40

pace, so it's hard to right. So right now,

19:42

I think what they're they're trying to develop those good

19:45

habits, Like we're going to do it the right way, slow

19:47

at maybe fifty percent, and then we're gonna

19:50

we'll ramp it up to sixty five, seventy

19:52

five, eighty five, nine to one hundred at

19:54

some point. And I think that's sort

19:56

of the goal. But I

19:58

wrote about this in the mail bag today and kind of explain

20:01

the differences. But you know, Alex van Pelt

20:03

is a left foot forward quarterback

20:06

guru, like he believes in shotgun

20:09

right. So in shotgun you have your left foot

20:11

staggered in front of your right foot, whereas

20:13

you know, Patrick Mahomes puts his right foot

20:16

forward, Tom Brady put his left foot

20:18

forward, Aaron Rodgers put his left foot forward.

20:20

Joe Burrow is absolutely parallel.

20:22

Peyton Manning. Also, Payton

20:25

Manning the Sheriff was a square stand

20:27

sky, So everybody

20:29

has a different way of doing it. Alex van

20:32

Pelt believes in left foot forward because as

20:34

a righty, you're gonna have that extra step, and

20:37

that extra step creates rhythm and

20:39

it creates fluidity in the drop, whereas

20:41

with the right foot forward you're just kind of,

20:43

you know, it's it's a little bit more robotic.

20:46

And so I think the biggest thing to

20:48

me is that that would really help Drake May

20:50

because I think the biggest issue he has is

20:52

rhythm with his feet, not that he can't move his feet,

20:55

but it just doesn't sync up with

20:57

the routes and with the timing of the drop and all

20:59

that kind of stuff. So I actually think

21:01

that the game plan here for Van Pelt,

21:04

which is just what he's done with all of his quarterbacks.

21:07

Going back to Aaron Rodgers, Baker Mayfield, you

21:09

know, all those guys left foot forward, I

21:11

think could help Drake May a lot. So that's

21:13

what you know. Drake may talked about after the practice

21:16

was that, well, first of all, he's got to learn under center,

21:18

which is like completely foreign to all these

21:20

college quarterbacks.

21:21

Now, well that's my one question. Did

21:23

you see him take oh many snaps under

21:26

center? And how did it look?

21:27

Yeah, you know, fine for

21:29

what they were doing. Yeah, but yes,

21:32

that's he had one pass

21:35

attempt in college from under center.

21:37

Yeah.

21:37

Now, these guys come out of college with zero

21:40

and I used to laugh at that, but the more

21:42

time has gone by and these guys

21:44

are never under center. Now, they're never under centered in

21:46

high school.

21:47

Yeah, like yeah,

21:49

yeah, I.

21:50

Think it's legitimately something that they

21:52

have to develop.

21:53

Yeah, And I think going back to that email, like Josh

21:55

Allen did not come into the NFL playing

21:58

the way he is right now, I'm got a wyoming

22:00

He had a lot of refining to.

22:01

Do too right, but people didn't say he needed

22:03

to be fixed, right. I think he's taken the offense

22:06

to the word fixed. Yeah, Yeah, he

22:09

wants to know had a long way, Yeah, for sure.

22:12

He also wants to know, do we see the thread going around

22:14

comparing May and Daniels throwing. I

22:17

haven't not.

22:18

Yeah, So there's like there's a

22:20

Jade and Daniels. Uh, there's a there's

22:23

a video of Jaden

22:25

and Daniels throwing a deeper

22:27

ball like down the field thing is like kind of like a seam

22:29

throw, And there's a video of Drake May

22:32

and Jaden Daniels' release looks

22:34

a lot quicker, you know, it looks a lot

22:37

faster in the video, which

22:40

I think coming in we knew that that was the

22:42

thing. Anyways, Like Jaden Daniels has a much more

22:44

refined mechanical chain and his release

22:46

is much quicker right now than Drake May's.

22:49

But I would also just say that Drake May

22:51

was throwing like a five yard out and

22:53

Jaden Daniels was was throwing a deep

22:55

ball, and so like the velocity that

22:57

they were both trying to generate on the ball with significant

23:00

different it looked like Jadon Daniels

23:02

was adam more full pace

23:04

in the drill than Drake May was being told

23:06

to run it at It wasn't in apples to

23:08

apples comparison.

23:10

Yeah, so there's

23:13

that. There's that element

23:15

too, well.

23:16

So that was rookie Minnie Camp. Also, the Patriots

23:18

announced a few days ago that

23:20

Elliott Wolf is indeed

23:22

going to be the executive vice president

23:25

of player Personnel. Did I get

23:27

that right?

23:28

Executive vice president of player Personnel?

23:30

Yes?

23:30

Okay, so I did get that right? Yes, Okay.

23:34

Thoughts reaction, I think we all knew

23:36

that was probably gonna happen, but yep,

23:39

yeah.

23:39

I also, why not give him the title

23:42

of GM?

23:43

Well, no one's ever had that here.

23:46

We don't do that around here.

23:47

But why, I don't know. I think we don't

23:49

have to go look at the history of but why.

23:51

Yeah, there's gotta be a reason.

23:53

Yeah, I just don't know what it is. The responsibilities

23:56

are the same, right, like, yeah, well this

23:58

guy has way more responsibility than any

24:00

of their vice presidents of a player person

24:03

Yeah.

24:03

Under, he's more managing.

24:05

Generally, he's generally managing. He's got control

24:07

of the fifty three man roster.

24:08

Yeah, yeah, he does.

24:09

But to me, a Gmjoe Belichick had controlled

24:11

the fifty three man roster, not Nick Casio.

24:13

To me, a GM, though, was in charge of every

24:16

aspect of the operation. So not

24:18

that they are in the weeds with everything, but like

24:20

everything from what bus line are we going

24:22

to be renting on game day? You know, like

24:25

the GM is the final say on everything,

24:28

not just football but operations

24:30

and business too. Yeah, you know, and maybe

24:33

that's why maybe the Crafts want

24:35

to retain some of the business part of it

24:37

themselves. I don't know.

24:39

I mean, that makes as much sense as anything to me. I mean, I

24:41

don't don't really know what it

24:43

matters. I mean, it all seems like football is on Ellie

24:45

Wolf, and I mean, just my personal opinion, I think

24:47

I think it's a great choice. I think he's a great fine you

24:50

know, He's you know, what you loved about

24:52

Bill Belichick when he got here was like the thing that like

24:54

he was trained from, like you know, since he

24:57

was like in the womb to like watch film, you know,

24:59

and so Ellie Wolf has all that kind

25:01

of pedigree, and you know, I liked that he

25:03

was here for a couple of years and he learned under Bill

25:05

and he kind of saw how things were being done. And you

25:08

know, I've compared it to in the past, to what Ron Wolf did

25:10

in Green Bay where they hired him. I think in like November,

25:12

they had fired their GM, so they brought him in. He had a couple

25:14

of months just to observe and to see how

25:16

things were done. And I think Elliott's had that chance.

25:19

And you know, if not him, who you know. So

25:21

I think it's a it's a good fit and

25:23

you know, a good start to the draft. And now it's

25:25

it's all on him, so we'll see. I'm just glad that's out of the

25:27

way. Now we can kind of move on and you know, just

25:29

folks coming in hot. Yeah, no, sorry,

25:32

Britain schooler got me.

25:32

All fired up.

25:33

I couldn't agree more with you.

25:35

Penalty on the way.

25:37

Ron Wolf, Ted Thompson, Bill

25:39

Belichick are his two three

25:41

biggest influences, and I can't

25:43

really think of anybody else better

25:46

to mentor somebody than those three

25:48

guys.

25:48

I don't think anyone would have any issue with Wolf

25:51

himself being in the role. I would

25:54

have a question of the division

25:56

of power, like why they chose

25:59

to give him more power than Mayo.

26:02

I also wonder if he's going to make any staff

26:04

changes or if he's gonna keep

26:06

everything that everything the same, because if you want

26:08

to make changes, you want to do it now before you really

26:10

get into the think of like scouting again.

26:12

So I mean I would just say to that, Paul, though, you know, it's

26:14

I mean, it's a really interesting point.

26:16

You know, Mayo hasn't done anything though.

26:18

You know, so, I mean, it's it's it's interesting that. I mean not to

26:20

say that Wolf has done a ton, but he's been around

26:22

a lot longer on the game in the NFL than.

26:24

But it's never done office. They've both never

26:26

done what they're doing right now.

26:28

Sure, but Mayo hasn't done anything

26:30

though.

26:30

Well. I mean I would say that if if

26:32

you if you count being in

26:35

training for what they're doing, Wolf

26:37

has more years in training.

26:39

To do, not even close.

26:41

Sure, he's had a job more

26:43

than Mayo's had a job down. I

26:45

just think it's interesting. I think it sets up potential

26:49

conflict unless this is something that Gerard

26:51

was really Paul, did you hear it going,

26:55

Yeah, I don't think that works.

26:56

But I do think that Mayo said, look,

26:58

we're going to disagree. I mean, I think they both have been upfront

27:01

about like it's been pretty good so far. But you

27:03

know, and sometimes I think that's where you find

27:05

the magic.

27:05

Happening, you know.

27:06

I mean, you really have to argue over something and state your

27:08

case and then you find you know what what

27:10

the what? The most passionate person tends to

27:12

win, So I you know, it's like anything. I don't

27:14

know how it's all going to work out, but I think they picked good

27:16

guys, and so far it seems okay to me.

27:19

Yeah, I just I think it

27:21

it opens the door for conflict

27:24

with when things aren't

27:26

going well on the field, the

27:29

guy who's not on the field is saying,

27:31

well, the players are there. I

27:34

know this because I picked them. Isn't

27:37

that The coach says, yeah,

27:40

we're not winning, but I

27:42

don't have the horses.

27:43

But isn't that the

27:45

way, Well number

27:48

one guy has control of that.

27:50

Well that's kind of the Bill Walsh thing, which was saying

27:52

exactly what Paul is saying, is that, you

27:54

know, this is the the Usually the GM is the kind

27:56

of person that's sidled up to the owner and being like, I don't

27:58

know, I got on the players, you know, And and the coach

28:00

is saying, you know, I'm settled

28:03

up to you, mister owner, but I

28:05

can only do so much with the guys he's given me,

28:07

I don't have control.

28:08

Over when things go bad, people start,

28:11

you know, playing the blame game.

28:13

But Bill didn't have anybody to blame.

28:14

Right, That's that was different. But I

28:17

think most places are like we are now.

28:19

Yeah, no, most places. Andy Reid

28:21

has control.

28:22

Of his roster, but we don't have Andy Reid.

28:24

No.

28:24

No, I'm just saying like to just to

28:26

say most most heat most coaches don't have

28:28

control and run. I think

28:30

most coaches have control of their roster. I

28:32

don't have it all on paper to tell you, but that's

28:35

how I feel around the league. John Harbaugh,

28:37

Kyle Shanninghan, these guys, they all collaborate,

28:41

you know. Sean McVay has control of his roster.

28:44

I think this is not a unique thing to

28:46

have control of who actually makes the team.

28:49

But I have the resume of

28:51

those guys, and I just feel like Elliott

28:53

wolf who's been my assistant, to make a

28:55

run.

28:55

And control of who makes the Texans, not

28:57

Nick Casio. But I don't know that for sure.

28:59

I don't about that. But director of player

29:01

Personnel assistant general manager

29:04

in Cleveland, like Elliott Wolfe

29:06

has has experience like he's not

29:08

only not mentioning the fact that at

29:10

eleven years old, he's at the combine with his father

29:12

with a Stopwatch we see.

29:14

I just I worry, that's all. I'm not worried

29:17

about Wolf not knowing what he's doing. That's

29:19

not my concern. I think Wolf is qualified

29:22

for the position that he just officially

29:24

got. I think he's more than qualified.

29:26

Yeah, it's the stress point of this relationship.

29:29

See, if it doesn't start.

29:30

You know, it's easy to say Fred and I

29:32

are going to disagree. We've disagreed

29:34

a lot for twenty five dollars. But what happens

29:36

when we actually disagree? Is

29:38

it an important disagreement that we can't move through?

29:41

Right?

29:41

We've never really had one of those. I

29:44

don't know what it's going to be like with Gerard and Nellie when

29:46

they actually disagree.

29:47

Yeah. No, Like, like you said, who

29:50

makes the team?

29:51

Right?

29:51

And it's not like to Evan's point,

29:54

I think Wolf is a fine higher

29:56

I'm really I kind of didn't think they

29:58

had any options. Yeah, you know, I

30:01

think that he was the guy, and he's more

30:03

than more than deserving of that promotion in

30:05

my view.

30:06

No, I hear what you're saying. I just I guess

30:08

if somebody had to have control. Someone

30:11

has to have control right of the roster. And

30:13

I'd rather give it to the guy that with the more

30:15

experience, with the bigger resume than

30:17

give it to the linebackers coach that we just promoted

30:20

to be the head.

30:20

That told you he doesn't know what's going on offense.

30:23

I'm just maybe,

30:28

but but I just I think

30:30

the main thing is is just to

30:32

me, is that is like Elliott Wolf is

30:34

qualified for this position. I

30:36

don't know if Mayo is qualified to like

30:39

run a football operations right now. So

30:41

for Mayo to be the head coach and

30:44

just coach, like you just coach the team,

30:46

like here's the players, you just coach

30:48

them, and I'm gonna do everything else.

30:51

And I think to Fred's point about

30:53

why not general manager, I

30:56

think that Elliott Wolf is control in control

30:58

of the football personnel. Every

31:00

single player that walks through that door is coming

31:02

from Elliott Wolf on down. The branding,

31:05

the marketing, the what

31:08

buses were taking when we're on the road, all

31:10

that stuff I think is running through Jonathan

31:13

Craft.

31:13

Mike, but does I mean I spoke?

31:17

Michael Charlotte writes, if Wolf

31:19

is vice president, who was president.

31:22

I just mentioned his name as an executive vice

31:24

president though, so oh my.

31:26

God, is like, is

31:29

Eric Tacosta the Ravens GM.

31:32

I don't know his title, but yeah, I mean I think like,

31:34

is Eric Tacosta talking about travel?

31:37

No?

31:37

No, he's picking players? Yeah, yeah, like that's

31:39

what the general manager does.

31:41

I hear you. I I just think that there's a little

31:43

bit more, you know, like a John Lynch for

31:45

example, Like he has a little bit

31:47

more of that, like this is

31:49

his operation with Kyle Shanahan and

31:51

there. It's like they're the faces of the forty nine ers

31:54

right now. Yeah, And I think that maybe

31:57

for now, you know, it's the Crafts are

31:59

supposed to be kind of the faces,

32:01

you know, like the royal family, right. But

32:03

the one that's really pulling the strings on the football

32:05

side of things is Elliott.

32:09

Let's see what's sir Alex

32:12

and Mount Holly? Why the Patriots don't name a

32:14

GM? And a roast comment

32:16

and chirping zebras at

32:18

work today so can't listen live,

32:20

but was catching up on my Patriots Unfiltered and have

32:23

few comments. One the Tom Brady

32:25

roast was closure I need and I would watch that

32:27

ten times over the Apple docu

32:29

series The Roast Itself took meaning Patriots

32:32

Unfiltered to a whole new level. Two.

32:34

I have trouble with sleeping at night and sometimes

32:37

play podcast slash music at night

32:39

along with The Patriots Unfiltered. The one other

32:41

podcast I listened to is none other than Chirping

32:44

Zebra. Right, Let's go. And lastly,

32:47

I think I cracked the code. And why the Patriots

32:49

don't specifically name someone GM,

32:52

it's because executive vice president

32:54

of player Personnel sounds more fancy

32:56

than general manager, which is a title

32:59

you get. I had a local Chick

33:01

fil A that was tongue in cheek just

33:03

in case Fred Butcher's the delivery.

33:06

It is funny with like I remember when I when

33:08

I was living in LA one of my first intern

33:11

jobs was at Fox. It was actually in the Nakatomi

33:13

Closet building that's the Fox building, and I remember

33:15

I.

33:15

Had to do a job.

33:16

But it was like I saw this book that was like, if

33:18

you're a vice president, this is what couch you can

33:21

get, and this is your credenza and this is oh, you're an executive

33:23

vice person now you can get this credenza

33:25

and like you know it was like this whole like hierarchy

33:28

of what furniture you were allowed to buy.

33:30

So I'm sure executive vice.

33:31

President he must be, you know, pulling him in. But then the president,

33:33

you know, what does the president get?

33:34

I just struck me.

33:35

Where is his office?

33:36

Elliott? Yeah, I don't know.

33:38

I've walked through football once

33:40

and I was like blinders on, like trying

33:43

not to look around. You know, it was

33:45

like walking through like an episode of The West

33:47

Wing, like people busy walking through, yeah,

33:49

talking background music, walking

33:54

walk a little walking, talks going on, and I'm just

33:56

like, you know, it's like during COVID when we was Aaron

33:58

Sorkin like a right,

34:01

yeah, it was that was that was pretty cool for a

34:03

moment, and you know, it's just it's funny because we're upstairs

34:05

and you never realized that just like there's it's

34:07

just a beehive of activity down there of people,

34:09

you know, meetings and you know, you know it's going

34:11

on. But I think once you kind of look at it, you're like, oh my god,

34:14

this. You know, guys have talked about how intense

34:16

it is down there, not that I could see how intense

34:18

it actually was.

34:19

But like it was just a lot going on. Yep,

34:22

yep, okay, anybody want to know what Mapoo and

34:24

Schooler?

34:24

Oh yeah, why fascinating Why I

34:27

got Schooler for you now?

34:28

It was, you know, just a couple of interesting nuggets and I,

34:30

you know, to Paul's kind of your your your point's

34:32

you know, what do you want to work on this year?

34:34

And he said, you know, losing.

34:35

Slater off the field, but obviously he's still coach.

34:38

Just said he was always so level headed and I'm very

34:40

emotional and I get wrapped up in things, so you

34:42

know, this year and year three, school was saying he really wants

34:44

to.

34:44

Try to embody more of that later. Yeah,

34:47

I mean that's you know, kind of reading between the lines.

34:48

But he said the big thing was trying to be a leader, trying

34:50

to be steady and and you know maybe not

34:53

quite so, uh you know, up and down

34:56

and then uh, you know, Mapoo was funny and these

34:58

interviews a funny map because everyone's always like

35:00

we're gonna find out today if he's playing linebackers

35:02

safety guys, like we're gonna drill down, we're gonna

35:04

get you, and you know, and he kind of plays it like it's like this is

35:06

like our second day of OTAs with the rookie, so we

35:08

haven't really done much of that, but but

35:10

it was interesting that, you know, you could

35:13

just tell he was talking about how much more complex

35:15

the playbook was in college and that like in

35:17

the pros and that, you know, he said, I could play multiple

35:20

positions at Sacramento State.

35:22

I'm sorry he had.

35:22

The way he put it was I could play one position really

35:25

well and I could play in multiple different spots,

35:27

and here you have to play multiple positions.

35:30

And he's like, does that make sense? And I'm like, not entirely,

35:32

but I think so.

35:34

So you know, he's just talking really about trying to get

35:36

back into into playing, and you

35:38

know, we talked about the communication that happens. He's like, look,

35:40

anyone can go up on the board and talk ball, but

35:42

then all of a sudden, you've got a guy in motion and you got

35:44

five seconds to communicate with three players.

35:47

You know.

35:47

So he was just illustrating a little bit, you

35:50

know, how much of kind of a leap it was in the playbook

35:52

and also being healthy now, which is a good thing. Last

35:55

point though, was they said, oh, what did you think when when Kyle came

35:57

back and he's like who and

35:59

he goes Douggar and he's like.

36:01

I've never heard anyone call him Kyle before in my life.

36:04

He's like Doug.

36:07

The first name, right,

36:09

Who's Kyle. We

36:12

just went up and it was kind of a funny one. But he's

36:14

definitely one of my serious football

36:17

guys. I used to like when Bill would do that every once

36:19

in a while, Kyle Doug

36:23

king Dog.

36:25

Okay, yeah, so good, you know,

36:27

a little check in with with those boys.

36:29

Yeah.

36:29

I've talked a lot of football with Mapu and

36:31

he he definitely was like

36:33

a whiteboard genius, you know. He was definitely somebody

36:36

like I could tell that could get up there and and

36:38

knock it out of the park to you know, run him through

36:40

the playbook or whatever. But we were talking about

36:42

this earlier Brettan school or like the last

36:45

of the Mexicans of the coverage ass

36:47

you know, the special teams coverage

36:49

ases and my depth chart and non deuces

36:51

that we got one guy and it's Brendan Schooler

36:53

that used to be like we specialists.

36:56

In Schooler and sly so for specialists,

36:59

but I mean like making the final yeah, assuming

37:01

that they're not going.

37:02

To get Slater assuming.

37:04

Yeah, boy, it really is in the world up ball.

37:06

Yeah, usually I have, like, on a fifty

37:08

three man projection, I'll have like six,

37:11

you know, three specialists and at least three guys.

37:13

Yeah, I mean all they do is specialty.

37:15

On the ninety man roster, there would be sometimes

37:18

like ten guys that were really

37:20

they're kind of here to cover kicks, you know, and like maybe

37:23

they make the roster, maybe they don't, but you know,

37:25

they're they're gonna make the roster by covering

37:27

kicks.

37:27

One more interesting thing was that they asked Schooler a couple

37:29

of questions about the new kickoff, and his brother actually

37:31

played in the XFL last year, so he's played under

37:34

these rules. He didn't give a ton of insight, but he did

37:36

say it's a lot more on a phone booth.

37:38

It's not so much running down full speed. It's

37:41

you gotta be tight and be able to

37:43

get off of blocks, like the blocks.

37:45

Yeah, so it's just it looks like just

37:47

a kind of a glorified running player.

37:49

Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how the

37:51

body types change. You know, you're probably

37:53

gonna have more block

37:56

eaters, you know. Yeah, it's like

37:58

the von godcha going to be out there point

38:00

of attacking and I.

38:01

Know that, Like, I know, kickoff plays exist and

38:03

you try, but like do you think there might almost

38:05

be like play like more plays

38:07

now or you've got guys kind of pulling and I

38:10

really trying to find a hole?

38:11

Yeah? I have questions like like a running play, like

38:13

are there rules as to how you can

38:16

line up as as the kicking team

38:18

initially yes, like do you have to line up

38:20

in a regular formation?

38:22

Tight?

38:22

Or can you are you spread out across the field?

38:24

Yeah, I think there's rules about like how many

38:26

people have to be on each side of the ball and stuff.

38:28

I think you have that now. I think you can be tight,

38:31

but I think you still need to have five on either side

38:33

of the ball.

38:34

Ok.

38:34

But to do his point, I definitely think that there's going to

38:36

be schemes like blocking schemes

38:39

of back this guy

38:41

and we're going to kick.

38:42

Out here, and Bagatto was still in the league,

38:44

we'd have one guy.

38:45

On the side, everybody else on the other too

38:47

soon to great point, it's a great point.

38:50

Some guys would lose their minds with some stuff

38:52

like coach, how long are we going here?

38:55

Yeah?

38:55

I know what they'll never expect. You're

38:57

right.

39:00

Oh, yes, So the other thing we want

39:02

to talk about is schedule release. So

39:05

we know a few games. We know Thursday

39:07

night, the Thursday night opener will be

39:09

the Bills in the docks, okay, Patriots.

39:12

No, no, we don't know, no,

39:14

we know nothing from the Wait a minute, so what

39:16

is that Thursday night?

39:18

The kickoff?

39:19

Kickoff race the.

39:20

Banner, it's Kansas City, right, yeah,

39:22

it's yeah.

39:22

Now Bill's Dolphins this week too?

39:24

Oh week two Thursday night.

39:25

Oh sorry, I didn't know anything about the

39:27

Bills Dolphins. That's why I gave you I wasn't

39:29

trying to. I wasn't doing. It's

39:33

Baltimore at Kansas City September

39:36

eight, fifth Thursday, and then.

39:39

And then the second Thursday is Bill's Miami.

39:41

Okay, we know Friday night. First

39:44

week is Packers Eagles from Brazil.

39:46

Bill's at Miami. Week three, September

39:48

Miami or is it in Buffalo?

39:50

Week two? Is it looks like it's in Miami.

39:53

I think this

39:55

is Bill's verse Dolphins, but Dolphins are so.

39:57

The NFL put that out there.

39:59

Yeah, yeah, he's not. These are not leaks.

40:01

These are actual.

40:02

Announcements Monday Night Football. The first

40:04

one is Jets in San Francisco.

40:07

I like that one.

40:07

I like that one, but I like it because it's

40:09

the Jets start one one. I like it, and

40:11

it kind of tweaked Sarah Rodgers a little bit, you know, like the tweeks

40:14

wanted to go.

40:14

To and yeah, and also like

40:17

last year it was a Monday night game as well.

40:19

He is it going to runt out with the American

40:21

flag again?

40:24

Any other any other announcements?

40:26

Yeah, Cowboys at Browns and that's

40:29

Brady's first first

40:31

game in the booth.

40:34

Brady, because yeah, they had four of

40:36

the games announced for Week

40:39

one, Yeah, officially, Yeah, and

40:41

then I guess you add in the secondary Thursday

40:44

night game with Miami Buffalo.

40:45

Correct.

40:46

So there's five games that we know of right now.

40:48

Yeah, I think just for Patriots.

40:49

I'm just curious as an international thing happening

40:52

is, you know, back to back and then those they

40:55

reportedly wanted to ask to.

40:56

The West Coast, San Francisco, Arizona.

40:59

I'm not really, there's not all that much more.

41:01

I'm really, well, are we playing on Christmas? There's

41:03

four teams that are gonna be playing on Christmas?

41:05

Well, yeah, for us Wednesday, and

41:08

I'm just gonna assume no. And the last

41:10

time you got to celebrate her birthday, Oh

41:12

my gosh on a Wednesday.

41:14

She would be never because

41:16

in college it was bowl games. For

41:19

me.

41:20

It's worse said it's a Wednesday than it's Christmas.

41:22

Like, are we really going to play a game on Wednesday?

41:24

I guess we are.

41:25

First of all, I'm gonna be honest with you, guys, Like

41:28

before I started working here, I'm not watching

41:30

a football game on Christmas.

41:31

I couldn't agree with you, not Like

41:34

if I'm at home, this is where we part way.

41:36

If I'm like Thanksgiving, yes,

41:39

I will sit down with my meal and watch watch

41:41

the game.

41:41

The two days different. I never watched the

41:44

Thanksgiving. There's

41:47

other things to do, Like you just, what do you mean Christmas?

41:50

I'm doing?

41:51

What is family?

41:53

Christmas? Afternoon? Everything's done, Let's

41:55

watch football.

41:55

Yeah, I'm kind of eight

41:58

o'clock open, all the presence,

42:00

and I like, now what do we do?

42:01

Like God, no, well

42:04

we were always I'm with Tamara.

42:06

I'm not shooting my baby gun in the backyard in the afternoon

42:08

like it was when I was a kid, Like I have no toys to play with, like

42:10

when.

42:10

I'm like, oh, here's another years ago. The

42:13

Broncos played on Christmas two years ago. I

42:15

did not watch one play of it. And

42:18

I don't watch the night game on Thanksgiving. I

42:20

don't have anything.

42:21

Yeah, the night game. It is tough to do.

42:23

You even like football. I do, but

42:25

I like it.

42:26

You know me, I'm old school and I'm setting my waist.

42:28

I like football when football is supposed

42:30

to be played.

42:30

The West Coast early game on Thanksgiving was great, which

42:33

is like nine thirty am, which can because then you're kind

42:35

of getting ready for Thanksgiving and then I would miss kind of

42:37

the rest of the games in the West Coast.

42:38

But that first game was great.

42:39

Because it was just you know, you're getting your food ready,

42:42

you're not going anywhere before and we're not going to Unfortunately

42:44

the.

42:44

High school for me, Fred, they could spread the schedule

42:47

out so there was a game, you know, in every window,

42:49

every day of the week. I'm just telling

42:51

you, I wouldn't watch most of them, but when

42:53

they're on on Sunday, if

42:56

we have like a bye week, I'm glued to

42:58

the Red shitt the Red I.

42:59

Think, I think other than the fact

43:01

that it's a Wednesday. I think Christmas

43:04

and get you know, Thanksgiving

43:07

to me. That's great that this football on. You

43:09

know, like what else the hell am I gonna do as

43:11

well?

43:12

I mean, well, Christmas is supposed to be NBA's

43:14

day. I stole it from the just

43:16

so you know. I don't watch the NBA games on Christmas.

43:19

I don't watch them on anything.

43:20

Well, but like I do watch the Celtics

43:22

and they're almost always on on Christmas and I

43:24

don't and I don't watch them if the Celtics.

43:27

If the Celtics play on Christmas, I'm watching because

43:31

I'd rather spend time with you watching.

43:33

The playing games,

43:35

like playing, but I don't like them, Like

43:39

there's other things I would rather be.

43:40

Now if the Celtics are playing on Christmas

43:42

and you got to watch that, But I

43:45

feel like that's what I as a kid, well

43:47

as a Jew, we were always at the movies. But

43:50

if the movies or the Celtics, like those were

43:52

the Yeah, those are those are

43:54

like the two things that we were doing. You're you

43:56

know, watching or at the Celtics game, or we're at

43:58

the movies and then go and eat Chinese.

44:00

Have you ever been to Golden temple in Brookline, of course,

44:02

of course, of course that's like Mecca.

44:05

Really.

44:05

Oh yeah, it's it's like it's like a temple,

44:07

like a Jewish temple, right, yeah, yeah, they're

44:10

the best.

44:11

Hard to get into on Christmas.

44:13

Oh yeah, well we usually set the bar, which

44:15

is nice, you know, get some get

44:17

some appetizers, you know, nothing crazy.

44:20

It's the best, a little pricey, but it's good.

44:22

Yeah, it's good.

44:24

All right. So that's what we know about.

44:27

Uh.

44:27

The schedule release and the full

44:30

schedule release will be announced tomorrow

44:33

at eight o'clock on NFL Network.

44:36

UH.

44:36

And I can say that, you know, it's become

44:39

sort of the super Bowl of social

44:41

media in the league, and all the teams

44:43

kind of you know compete in a fun

44:46

way of like who can be the cleverest and have

44:48

the most interesting video

44:51

or whatever they do to and you

44:53

know, celebrate the announcements schedule, and I can say

44:55

that we've got something pretty cool going on.

44:56

I think so, yeah, I think so.

44:58

A lot of credit to uh Alexandra

45:00

Francisco is one of the big.

45:03

I thought you're going to credit me.

45:04

No, no, I don't want to get I'm not going to get anything away

45:07

I just want to say that if the Chargers

45:09

do like an opening where they're like year three

45:12

of anime, screw it, let's do it, and

45:14

then it's just another anime thing, I want to be I'm curious

45:16

if the Charges continue to beat the anime.

45:18

Yeah, I think the pressure's on that value.

45:20

Yeah, come on something a little funnier.

45:21

I'm curious if someone's going to come out

45:23

with something more like organic

45:26

like what the Titans did last year, where it was

45:28

like not saying they didn't have a lot of effort into it,

45:30

but like just being out on the streets

45:32

of Nashville and doing well.

45:33

The funny thing about that that wasn't their main thing.

45:36

That was like a byproduct and it did better

45:38

than their main thing.

45:39

So I'm wondering if someone saw that and was like,

45:41

Okay, we're going to do something.

45:42

Like right like we

45:44

did with any Atoms.

45:46

Yeah, like A I wonder if AI is

45:48

going to be involved in somebody.

45:51

Yeah.

45:51

I also was wondering do you think that the league will use

45:53

AI to make the schedule or if they're not already,

45:56

But that doesn't that seem like a prime AI thing.

45:58

I do know that from the way they used

46:00

to do it. It is more computerized

46:02

now and it takes like a tenth of the time that it

46:05

took. The guy that would sit in

46:07

I forget his name. It

46:09

was legendary, the guy that would come up

46:11

with the schedule. But now, like all

46:13

these venues, is so much more complicated in

46:16

terms of the other events that they have. It's

46:18

so much harder to just.

46:19

Seems like Champions chpt you know, like no

46:22

games back to back, like this guy's got to have a Wednesday

46:24

game.

46:24

They need some rest, you know, type in all the commands, but

46:27

you got to.

46:27

Feed in like if MESSI was coming in September

46:30

that, you know, like.

46:31

A lot of variables.

46:32

Yeah.

46:34

At the TD Garden, there's all sorts

46:36

of like conflicts now because the Bruins

46:38

and the Celtics are still going. And I think

46:40

it was like a Tim McGraw concert or something

46:42

like that was supposed to be one

46:45

night and they have to be Friday, and they moved it to a

46:47

way, Yeah, because the Bruins needed the right

46:49

Yeah.

46:50

Yeah.

46:51

Do you guys see the Drake May and Jalen Polk

46:53

at the Bruins game.

46:54

That's pretty fun.

46:54

I haven't seen it yet. They wired them up. Yeah.

46:57

I felt like we were just having a meeting, like we should do that, and

46:59

then the Bruins just at it.

47:00

But it was it was funny there.

47:02

It's just I mean, I don't know how much experience they

47:04

have with hockey, but it's it's always just funny watching

47:06

the reaction to these guys and they were talking

47:08

to him. Part of it was like do you think may was

47:10

like, do you think it's harder to score a goal or get a touchdown?

47:13

And JP is like, I think I think

47:15

score a goal, like you know, touchdownds pretty easy, Like

47:17

he was talking about touchdowns.

47:18

Like no prob. I was at a Bruins game sitting

47:21

next to a former Patriots lineman

47:23

who will go unnamed, and we're watching

47:25

and somebody hit the post and the line

47:28

of says, isn't that a goal?

47:29

I'm like, no, No, it's gonna go in that

47:32

Eugene Chunk the same era.

47:34

Yeah, I want.

47:36

I want to get Drake Maye to a Celtics game.

47:38

Yeah, that's that's the one I've been waiting for too,

47:41

because his family is huge basketball

47:43

family at North Carolina and his brother.

47:45

And his brother played against Jason Tatum so

47:47

we can get a swap funny uh elite.

47:51

They think that Drake may could have been on the UNC

47:53

basketball team if he wanted to

47:55

be. They wanted him to play come

47:57

off their bench as like a six man

48:00

type of thing. Ah, but you wanted to focus on

48:02

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48:03

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49:39

Let's hear what head coach Gerardmeo had

49:41

to say at Rookie Mini Caamp this weekend.

49:44

You want a short T shirt and all weather Yeah,

49:47

you know, honestly, I thought it was gonna be a little warmer out

49:49

here. I like hoodies at the same

49:51

time trying to like do my own thing without

49:53

the hoodie and now I'm just gonna freeze my my butt

49:56

off.

49:58

allR I'm ready. What do

50:00

your did you accomplished yesterday, What are you trying.

50:02

To accomplish it today?

50:03

Yeah, I think first and foremost, yesterday

50:05

was more of an evaluation day to see how these guys

50:07

are s uh physically and also mentally.

50:09

Uh.

50:10

Today we'll you know, we'll have a little bit more uh

50:12

as far as competitive drills, you

50:14

know, still following the rules, but it'd be good to see

50:16

those guys, you know, actually going out there and playing football.

50:19

Is there anyone that really impressed to you that first.

50:21

Say, uh, like stood out to you, you

50:23

know, honestly, like you know, we have twenty

50:26

try out guys here as well, and so

50:28

there are a lot of guys that you know, they came out here

50:30

and and look good and shorts and T shirts. But you

50:32

I, I think the thing we have to remember is is football.

50:35

So there have been a lot of shorts and T shirt

50:37

all stars that never really touched the field. And we

50:39

have to wait and see til we get the pass 'em dr.

50:43

Dre Uh.

50:45

Early impression with to Drake, Look, I mean he has a lot

50:47

to work on. Here's a lot to work on, but

50:49

I have no doubt that he'll put the time

50:51

in. So you know, I know, you guys saw him out

50:54

well, y, you didn't see him out here yesterday, but you

50:56

know he was here all night trying to get you know, on

50:58

the same page as everyone else.

50:59

So, Dred, what comes to Drake?

51:00

What type of work are you guys doing with him, you.

51:03

Know, not on the practice field to try to get him up his speed

51:05

when it comes to the playbook in the offense.

51:07

Yeah, it just comes down to time. I mean that's the biggest

51:09

that's the biggest hurdle. And then you know, you work

51:11

under some of these phase two, phase three rules where

51:13

you don't have as much time as you want to, so you

51:15

can't have those conversations. But look,

51:18

it's all about I mean hard work works. We talk

51:20

about it all the time, and he's, uh, he's

51:22

working hard. So day one is kind of hard. It's

51:24

kind of hard to really say, you know, this guy did

51:26

xcell.

51:27

And s is you're a primary person who

51:29

will be like kind of in the year of Drake excuse

51:31

me?

51:31

And Joe?

51:32

Is it TC McCartney, Is it all?

51:34

Yeah, that's a great question.

51:35

I would say.

51:36

You know, across the league, most offensive coordinators,

51:39

they they interact with the quarterback,

51:41

the starting quarterback for the most part. You

51:43

know, we do have a group of coaches that have quarterback

51:45

backgrounds. But I would say overall, be a VP

51:47

as far as that that's what he got with Drake. But I

51:49

mean with with all of what with Drake,

51:52

with Jakoby, and you don't know the starters,

51:54

that's right, we don't know who the starter is, so

51:56

AVP would be in all those go ahead,

51:58

Another follow on just to make

52:01

sure going.

52:01

Off that, how would you describe the division of Laver

52:04

with the coaching staff in terms of develop developing

52:06

Drake and like his individual development, it's

52:08

like running the office.

52:09

No, that's a great question. You know, there has to be balanced

52:12

there. You don't want Drake hearing too many

52:14

voices. And once again that's why I'm saying, you

52:16

know, a VP will be the lead guy as

52:18

far as that communication.

52:21

You guys are you can work

52:23

on in the conference.

52:24

Uh, just over the course of the midicampus. The playbook

52:26

able to be a part of that equation there, Like, are

52:29

these guys studying day one?

52:30

Yeah?

52:30

Yeah, I mean they're studying the plays that we're gonna run

52:32

during the season, and you know, you want to see

52:35

if these guys can take what they

52:37

pick up in the in the classroom in the classroom

52:39

and see if they can apply it on the field.

52:41

So you lout regarding that relationship between

52:43

a v P and the quarterbacks, how

52:45

much of that is due to what

52:47

you've learned about multiple voices and a quarterbacks

52:50

you're having one guy that's talking to him

52:52

as opposed to hearing from different people.

52:55

Yeah, I mean, I just honestly, that's my own

52:57

life, you know. So you know, you hear all

52:59

these voices. You have to have a small circle

53:01

that you really can talk to and trust. And I think

53:03

avp's in that circle. I know avp's in that

53:05

circle with Drake and the rest of these the quarterbacks.

53:08

Have you seen much change with you in

53:10

terms of how you attack a practice?

53:13

Like you know, formerly a linebackers

53:15

coach, you know what what's

53:18

gonna change with you in a regular practice?

53:20

Yeah?

53:20

You know, honestly, I've been over with the offense more

53:22

than I have with the defense. And that just goes

53:24

back to continuing to grow and continue to

53:27

learn. Like I sit in those offensive meetings as well,

53:29

and I'm learning right alongside those guys.

53:31

And you know, as far as practice, is con is

53:33

concerned. I'm gonna bounce around offense,

53:35

defense, special teams. I mean, they all

53:38

play a huge part in winning football games. But that's

53:40

the benefit of having a bigger staff. For a larger

53:42

staff, you know, I'm able to do that. How did you describe

53:45

by NACATWS role, what would be his primary domain?

53:47

Yeah?

53:47

But you know ben Is, you know, has tremendous experience.

53:51

He's coached every position on the offense side of the ball.

53:53

So he was one of those catch off players just in case

53:55

as we started to build out the coaching staff.

53:57

Uh, he has.

53:58

He has a great history, great background. He

54:00

also helps me with some of the you know, the scheduling

54:02

stuff, almost like an assistant head coach

54:05

type of role there. But

54:07

I do have a small circle of people I lean on

54:09

as far as that's concern rookie quarterbacks.

54:12

Are they both on the same developmental

54:15

schedule you've development them simultaneously

54:17

or do you do like separate things.

54:19

Now you have to do it together, you know, when you wanted to be a

54:21

fair competition, especially when we started doing

54:23

offense versus defense. And look,

54:25

once again, we have we have a lot of coaches here

54:27

that know the position. And so those

54:30

guys, you know, after the allotted time,

54:32

they have to take it on their own to go out there and get

54:34

better. So that's where you really start

54:36

to see separations. Those guys that do a little

54:38

bit extra.

54:41

I have.

54:41

I've seen Joe don Ball, Like,

54:43

right, double dutch, you read to jump in you don't

54:45

even know double No, you don't jump double du A

54:51

song for double Dutch?

54:53

What is it?

54:54

It's like a no, it's.

55:01

Baker express the high level

55:03

of self confidence.

55:04

This is great.

55:05

I'm sure you want that, but is there a point in which you say

55:07

that's terrific If you don't want, let's have a little lesson.

55:09

Yeah, honestly, Like for me, I want these guys

55:11

to have a personality. I want them to feel free

55:14

to talk about certain things. Look, we'll have rules

55:16

of what to talk about. But now, once

55:18

he puts it out there, he has to show it every day out here on

55:20

the football field. If not, he's just a talker,

55:23

and then you start to lose the respect of the locker room

55:25

and and things like that. So well, he said

55:27

it, you put it out there.

55:28

Now you got to show us.

55:30

The team is interviewing for this executive

55:33

VP of player personnel.

55:35

I'm curious just how does that tie into you?

55:37

How important is that now for me? For

55:40

me, it's really just been about a rookie minute camp.

55:42

And I hate to give you that answer, but like, we have guys

55:44

here that are gonna be on our team, and

55:47

so I've just really been.

55:48

Focusing on that. Yeah, I think quorking

55:50

out that Matthew Slater is gonna be on your staff.

55:52

Can you just talk about what rule go?

55:54

Yeah, Slat is on the staff and I'm happy

55:56

about that. You know, we came in together in two thousand

55:58

and eight. Whoever would have thought And I always joke

56:00

with him, like when we were in that room rookie

56:03

mini camp, if he that he would have a gold jacket

56:05

one day, and hopefully he does get that gold jacket. But

56:07

he is, uh, he's an advisor for me, you know, all

56:10

things football and and honestly the things

56:12

off the field. He's a very smart individual and I

56:14

would say we see most things the same

56:16

way and and at the same time, I know he's a guy

56:18

that would be honest with me. You know, once you put the

56:20

head coach hat on, it's hard to find people who are honest

56:22

with you can you have together, we

56:25

get double that together, no doubt too,

56:29

Like, yeah, that's part of it, that's part of it. But

56:32

once again I would say he's just one of my advisors.

56:35

Is just kind of feeling like if camp

56:37

for you and.

56:39

Your way, Yeah, honestly, Yeah, it feels great.

56:41

It feels great to get on the Like the first day I was

56:44

out on the field with the guys, that was like that aha moment.

56:46

Uh.

56:46

Everyone was asking me, you know, how does it

56:49

feel? It felt regular to me to be inside. But

56:51

as soon as I came out here and was able to like talk

56:53

to different positions, that was like that aha moment.

56:56

Did you watch the Tom Brady Ros Nah?

56:59

You know what?

57:00

That's a fit? Okay, So I watch. So I started

57:03

off watching it. I'm gonna be honest, like we wanna

57:05

have transparency and honesty. I

57:07

started off watching it and then I was like, I

57:10

gotta I'm gonna change the chance.

57:13

Huh.

57:13

It was it was too much for me, but it

57:16

is what it is.

57:18

You have to go back and out.

57:20

No, I'm not, I'm not watching it. I haven't watched

57:22

the Dynasty, I haven't watched the whole rows. I'm

57:24

just focused on what I have to do. I

57:26

think you guys would be nice to me if we win games. Not watching

57:29

Netflix more questions? Big,

57:34

Uh, there are a few, you know. And look once

57:36

again, like this is another day to add into it. You

57:38

can't just take one day and say, you know, this guy

57:40

showed out. I know that's the the the hot

57:42

thing to do.

57:43

Uh.

57:43

At the same time, you know, we'll we'll do a lot here

57:46

today and you guys will get a chance to see these guys as

57:48

well. So uh, asking me that next.

57:50

Time we tell you what do you look for from most tryout

57:52

guys?

57:53

Uh?

57:53

Honestly, it's about movement skills. It's an

57:56

evaluation, right, So it's about movement skills.

57:58

It's about what they can pick up in the classroom. How these

58:00

guys learn, how they can help our team

58:02

going forward.

58:04

Thanks, thanks for sure, and

58:07

now great moments in.

58:11

History having you know, elongated postgame

58:14

show.

58:14

Yeah, sure, what's the four hour? I mean, Hardy, we're

58:16

not gonna let him go.

58:17

We don't just keep it going, lock Hardy in

58:19

the studio. We should just keep going.

58:20

We should say tell Hardy that Fred

58:23

said, you know, tell him this in the pregame show,

58:25

Fred said that because it's your last post

58:27

game, he wants to do four hours.

58:29

And if you owe him to potential for

58:31

it to be Bill's last game, you know we wanted

58:33

to.

58:34

How about he's got to make up the hour that he ditched

58:36

on Christmas. Ever, like, we need to make that up because I'm

58:38

not paying your full rate.

58:39

You don't give me an extra hour? Now, Now, do

58:42

you want me to wait till you get here?

58:43

No?

58:44

You know, you just say it. I'll try

58:46

to watch and get okay, oh yeah, you'll be here,

58:48

Fred, So you because you'll react differently if I'm not.

58:50

I'll say, oh yeah, I forgot to tell you, like

58:52

during the previos, right.

58:53

Fred will be like, no, no, that's what we're doing.

58:55

We gotta we got to go longer. But

58:58

I'm not gonna be able to carry that through. He's gonna he's

59:00

gonna die.

59:02

That's another great moment, all

59:07

right. Welcome back to Patriots Unfiltered, Easy

59:09

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59:12

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59:15

There you go, talk

59:17

about Tom Kerrn. He had a take on

59:20

may Uh Andrew and

59:22

El in Louisiana. I think or it might be

59:24

la. I'm not sure. Uh, Kerran

59:26

was pretty vocal in his desire to not draft

59:29

May and trade down and take Penix. I'm

59:31

not accusing him of bias, but there

59:34

might be a bit of trolling involved.

59:37

It's interesting.

59:38

Uh yeah, So I

59:40

think you guys played it off air, but did you talk

59:42

about it already.

59:43

On air that we did turn Someone

59:45

wrote in that Curran had mentioned that he

59:48

that Milton was more accurate than May,

59:50

and that kind of reencountered to what was.

59:52

There of you who were all at well? Was there any context

59:55

to that or just generally speaking?

59:58

Yeah, That's why I didn't really say much about it because I I

1:00:00

didn't hear what Current.

1:00:01

Said, So I who knows podcasts

1:00:05

when someone relays something

1:00:07

that someone said, it often is not relayed

1:00:10

properly.

1:00:11

But here's the thing about Current. Back

1:00:13

in two thousand and one, he was

1:00:16

in the Brady camp way before

1:00:19

a lot of people.

1:00:20

Yeah he was, he was, but

1:00:22

after Brady played. Yeah, yeah, it

1:00:25

wasn't before Brady played. It was

1:00:27

after Brady.

1:00:28

Nobody was in the Brads.

1:00:28

A lot of people were in a lot of people were in the

1:00:31

Brady camp back replayed right way

1:00:33

o' Thomas ahead of the curve on that one was he Oh,

1:00:36

I would say that that's accurate. Well, he Fulgar

1:00:39

in current were ahead of the curve that Brady

1:00:41

should not only keep the job

1:00:43

until Drew comes back, but even

1:00:45

after Drew comes back. They were ahead of

1:00:47

the curve on that.

1:00:48

How much? How much of that was Bill

1:00:51

telling them that in all? Seriously,

1:00:53

because I know him and Felger were, It's

1:00:55

a great question. I knowing what I know

1:00:57

about Feler, I would say it was probably

1:01:00

more to do with just that it runs counter to what

1:01:02

everybody else is saying. I don't know if

1:01:04

he was like that twenty five years ago, but well,

1:01:07

that makes sense.

1:01:07

He kind of was. Yeah, but

1:01:10

you make a good point that Bill might have been saying, listen.

1:01:12

You know this guy's better this guy, this guy

1:01:15

runs out, this guy.

1:01:16

Runs the offense better than Drew does.

1:01:17

Yeah, let's

1:01:20

see lots of emails coming in. I want

1:01:22

to thank everyone, Daniel

1:01:25

says. I hate, hate, hate the

1:01:27

idea of a scheduled mid season start

1:01:29

for May. I don't want to see us in

1:01:31

a scenario like Miami with Tua and Fitzpatrick.

1:01:34

I believe the better plan would be to plan

1:01:37

for him to sit the ear and we

1:01:39

wait for Bissett to get hurt. His injury

1:01:42

history precedes him. I believe we would

1:01:44

get a chance to see May eventually, even

1:01:46

though I don't wish injury upon Jacoby.

1:01:49

Just seems like there is a risk in the hot

1:01:51

in the hoff In half out strategy

1:01:54

for starting May this year. What are your

1:01:56

thoughts on when the organization should aim

1:01:58

to start Drake seems like it will play

1:02:00

out organically and not the

1:02:03

scheduled mid season start being talked about

1:02:05

by some media Barthtender in

1:02:07

particular.

1:02:08

Oh, I mean, I don't think any but I

1:02:10

don't know what Alex is saying. But current

1:02:12

I bet you I don't.

1:02:14

I have no idea what to listen to him all the time.

1:02:16

Yeah, than you heard last night before you I

1:02:19

love you too from

1:02:22

somebody else.

1:02:24

That's not a pillow.

1:02:25

I would say the biggest thing that is it

1:02:28

is organic. Like no one's saying like we

1:02:30

are going to say on October twenty four

1:02:32

that Drake May is gonna know it's when he's ready,

1:02:34

he's gonna play like I would.

1:02:36

I don't want to get bogged into the semantics, but I

1:02:39

would say that I agree, Like, it's

1:02:41

not a scheduled start, it's I think

1:02:43

most people feel like after

1:02:46

half a season or so, he should be ready

1:02:48

to play in a game. I don't,

1:02:50

and you this guy might have more information than

1:02:52

I do. With the Dolphins, maybe

1:02:55

they decided before the season, before camp that

1:02:58

two was not going to play until X

1:03:00

date, and that was the date that he played. I don't

1:03:02

think it worked out that way. I don't think that's how it went.

1:03:05

I think Fitzpatrick played until Tua

1:03:07

was ready, and when Tua was ready, he took

1:03:09

over. And oh, by the way, what

1:03:12

was wrong with their plan? It worked as

1:03:15

he played better than Fitzpatrick. They

1:03:17

won more games with Tua than they did

1:03:19

with Fitzpatrick. You know it's

1:03:22

the tall No, it's

1:03:25

it's like you automatically

1:03:27

because Tua was sort of in and out in

1:03:30

that last half of the season, because he had some struggles

1:03:32

out in San Francisco. I can remember, you

1:03:35

know specifically one game that

1:03:37

means you botched it. No, Like they didn't

1:03:39

really care that much about the

1:03:42

here and now as much as they did about Tooa's

1:03:44

development. And I think

1:03:46

you could argue that they did well by him.

1:03:49

I think he's developed. Well, h

1:03:51

it's just the injuries there, right.

1:03:53

I feel like Mac was organic,

1:03:56

Like they didn't know he was going to do as well

1:03:58

as he did during camp in the preseason. Like,

1:04:00

I feel like, did they intend to start

1:04:02

him over Cam Newton right away when they drafted

1:04:04

him.

1:04:05

I don't think so.

1:04:05

I couldn't agree more. Yeah, I don't think they made

1:04:07

that decision the day they drafted him. I'm totally with Tamara.

1:04:11

They they watched it through training camp. I

1:04:13

think, you know, Cam missing time

1:04:15

with COVID didn't help him.

1:04:16

Yeah, you know, and they changed.

1:04:22

But no, I think Tamara's right. I don't think

1:04:24

that they drafted him and then they said that day

1:04:27

he's going to start Week one.

1:04:28

No, but it was a pair. I think in their mind

1:04:30

they like, we thought, if it's close,

1:04:32

we're going to start Mac.

1:04:34

Yeah. I think that's what we kind of talked about, Eric,

1:04:36

you talk about ahead of the curve. Eric was like, not

1:04:39

only that Max should start, but that they should

1:04:41

cut Cam. Yeah. I don't even know it's exactly what

1:04:43

they did.

1:04:43

He was the first person I was excited to tell him they Cam.

1:04:46

In hindsight, like, was it even really that close

1:04:48

between Max and Cam. I think it

1:04:51

was until COVID. Well

1:04:53

he I think they were very similar until COVID.

1:04:55

So Cam Cam got he

1:04:58

went out of the protocol, right yeah, COVID.

1:05:00

Yeah, and then he had a couple.

1:05:02

Had to set out practices with the giants. Yeah,

1:05:04

right, and that's what I think Mac took off.

1:05:06

Yeah, yeah, I I

1:05:09

don't think it's like I said, it's not. This

1:05:11

day is going to be the day that we turned

1:05:14

the keys over to Drake May. I think the one thing with the schedule,

1:05:16

as it relates to the schedule is when

1:05:18

is the bye week, because then you can

1:05:20

take the bye week to get

1:05:22

some extra practices in, as with Drake

1:05:25

May with the ones and all that kind of stuff.

1:05:27

And that's what they did with Tua in Miami to

1:05:29

a took over in week eight in

1:05:32

Miami, which is right after their week seven

1:05:34

boy. Yeah.

1:05:35

But then again, even that's fluid. If Jacoby

1:05:38

Brissett is six and one and

1:05:41

you get the buyeh, are you taking Jacoby

1:05:43

Prisett.

1:05:43

Out is May ready?

1:05:45

Yeah? I would you would, even though for

1:05:48

set six and one.

1:05:49

Yeah, I think that's what the Dolphins did and

1:05:51

it wasn't six and one, but they had a winning record with they

1:05:54

didn't have Jacob kid.

1:05:56

I know they had a better journeyman.

1:05:58

I mean, I think you paint a difficult picture then

1:06:00

that you know, that's why it's a good example, but I think you

1:06:02

know it's it's the reality of it, in

1:06:04

my eyes, is probably not going to be that complicated.

1:06:07

It's right, you're not going to know. I

1:06:09

get it.

1:06:09

But then if you get to the end of the year and Jacoby Pressett's

1:06:11

been playing the whole year, you just you.

1:06:13

Kind of felt like you burned another year a little bit. I would

1:06:15

say, I I, you do run the risk, and Fred's

1:06:17

right, and obviously you

1:06:19

know they're six and one. Now you run the risk of

1:06:22

veterans being upset that you're making a move. But

1:06:26

if you're if you're six and one because

1:06:28

of Jacoby Brissett, then

1:06:31

you're not going to probably not going to make them. That's

1:06:33

hard to but it's hard to imagine that there's six

1:06:35

and one because of the quarterbacks, just like

1:06:37

lifting the team, you know. And that wasn't

1:06:40

the case with Miami either, but they weren't. I

1:06:42

think they might have been like five and four or

1:06:44

four and three or something like that.

1:06:47

But even back then weren't there people in

1:06:49

the Fitzpatrick camp.

1:06:50

Yes, that Miami got killed for it.

1:06:52

Yeah, and I think they were running there in their locker

1:06:54

room a little bit too, like it was. It

1:06:56

wasn't a universally loved decision.

1:06:59

They got a lot of a lot of criticisms.

1:07:01

And he was a little passive aggressive Fitzpatrick

1:07:03

And oh, I'm a team guy.

1:07:04

But like yeahah, and then he ended up like

1:07:06

playing, playing and actually starting

1:07:09

another game.

1:07:10

He did because I missed a game. Yeah,

1:07:12

I think I want to say, a Raiders game late in the year

1:07:14

that they needed to win and he and he

1:07:16

won it. Yeah, I know, dude, what

1:07:19

year are we talking about?

1:07:20

Twenty twenty?

1:07:22

There weren't even fans, Like, of all the seasons I blocked

1:07:24

out, probably twenty.

1:07:24

The only reason why I even know it remotely well

1:07:27

is because I've looked this up to relate it to Drake

1:07:29

May.

1:07:29

He knows that just off the top of his Well,

1:07:32

how do you.

1:07:32

Guys feel about the other rookies though, Like, I mean, you

1:07:35

know, everyone wants to say, when does Drake May ready?

1:07:37

You know, how do you feel about the rookie receivers

1:07:39

being ready? Or jahean Bell being ready,

1:07:42

or the two rookie offensive linemen who I just

1:07:44

thought were awesome dudes. I enjoyed

1:07:46

hearing from them. Listen to those two guys talk.

1:07:48

They they sounded like a lot of fun. You

1:07:50

know, are they on similar kind of clocks

1:07:52

or you know, are we at a point now where I

1:07:55

know the.

1:07:55

Quarterback is different.

1:07:56

It's very important, but you know, why

1:07:58

are we waiting if you really feel like Kayden Wallace is

1:08:00

going to be the left tackle, you know, like I just

1:08:03

put him out there right, like.

1:08:04

I don't know better than the other guy.

1:08:06

Yeah, I mean, but even if it's you, now, if it's

1:08:08

like this and you're like, well, with a little he's

1:08:10

gonna go, you know, he'll quickly.

1:08:12

Surpass that guy. Yeah, I

1:08:14

would play him.

1:08:15

I could see Wallace playing just because like how

1:08:17

many snaps He's already coming in here with his a lot of

1:08:19

experience. Obviously he'd be switching sides, so that

1:08:22

could play into it. But if he if we're going to pick

1:08:24

one offensive oneman to potentially start, I could see.

1:08:26

Him doing it.

1:08:26

And I think Robinson probably has a

1:08:28

chance to be in that mix because I don't

1:08:30

know where Cole Strange is going to be fitting and

1:08:34

I.

1:08:34

Don't know where is going to be.

1:08:36

But but I mean all of those guys I put Mafi,

1:08:38

I put so Strange,

1:08:41

Jake Andrews to a lesser extent, they're

1:08:44

all going to be in that mix. If Robinson is the better

1:08:46

option, play

1:08:48

them, it's it's it's really interesting to me.

1:08:50

We spent so much time this saf season talking

1:08:52

about the three big needs this offseason quarterback,

1:08:54

wide receiver, tackle, and at

1:08:56

all three of.

1:08:57

Those position groups. I just noticed they've really

1:09:00

thrown a lot at the wall.

1:09:01

I mean even you know, Joe Milton's even part of that, like

1:09:04

I you know, but there's a ton I

1:09:06

mean, they just signed another one of these tryout guards

1:09:08

again, so I think there's it's something

1:09:10

crazy like eighteen offensive lineman right

1:09:12

now. We talked about how many wide

1:09:14

receivers there are as well, So just interesting.

1:09:17

I really think they're trying their best to kind

1:09:19

of carry that thing over from Bill competition

1:09:22

competition.

1:09:23

What do we know about the physical physical

1:09:26

status of the offensive lineman Beyond Strange,

1:09:30

is anybody else.

1:09:31

He's out with. I think he's the only He's

1:09:33

the only because that does no I mean, I know

1:09:35

Tyron Wheatley was out for a while.

1:09:37

But I think that's a high number back for a ninety

1:09:39

man roster. It is, I mean there's a lot. It's unless

1:09:41

you'd think that you're going to have four or five with those guys

1:09:43

not available.

1:09:44

I don't think it's a super high number for

1:09:47

the ninety man roster. Like usually

1:09:50

they're somewhere around like sixteen fifteen,

1:09:53

sixteen, right, But.

1:09:54

It's always when you know, like how many

1:09:56

times have we gone out there and we're like, well, look

1:09:58

this is this is the first offensive line there using

1:10:00

well, yeah, that's because Trent Brown's not available,

1:10:02

and yeah, this guy's not David Andrews is

1:10:05

available.

1:10:05

I mean he also doesn't know that this time of year,

1:10:08

you know, when you get into the like that's

1:10:10

what I'm right, if you're participating,

1:10:13

who's going to even be here for you know, some

1:10:16

of these guys they.

1:10:17

Know now will not be available.

1:10:19

Calvin Anderson, you know, kid malaria

1:10:22

but but but wait, no, that but

1:10:24

he's just an injured guy.

1:10:26

But didn't he he came back and played, Yeah.

1:10:28

But then he went back out and then he was out. I don't

1:10:31

think they had him at the end of the year.

1:10:32

No, no, no, but okay, I didn't think that

1:10:34

was related to the sickness.

1:10:35

But that was the heart. The heart

1:10:37

that bruise got punched in the chest. That

1:10:40

was the second part of the chest.

1:10:41

Yeah.

1:10:41

Well that was part of the Chris Price story, was that he got

1:10:44

malaria.

1:10:44

Of recover take your word for it.

1:10:45

And then he got hit in the chest and uh and

1:10:47

had like heart problems.

1:10:48

So it was it was, it was he might not be at

1:10:51

all. I mean the Chris Price place

1:10:53

makes it sound like he can't play, but

1:10:56

you know he was.

1:10:57

I mean, you just asked people that were dealing with stuff that we're

1:10:59

in, so he was.

1:11:00

I'll potentially put him as a second

1:11:02

because I think Strange is not going to be available right

1:11:04

away.

1:11:04

I agree that.

1:11:05

No, I think he's still signs even with the nick

1:11:07

Leverick guy that they signed from Tampa's the one

1:11:09

that experience No, I mean no, but but

1:11:13

just another sign of not only signing

1:11:15

veterans, but undrafted rookies drafting

1:11:18

another rookie. I mean, the three guys from last year.

1:11:20

It's I just don't think that they they

1:11:22

trust any of the guys.

1:11:23

That they have there.

1:11:24

No, I think that's the bigger issue besides

1:11:26

maybe City, Yeah, you know City. So I don't

1:11:28

think that they really trust Strange

1:11:32

Mafi the left tackle. Generally Jake

1:11:34

Andrews is a center. I think in everybody's

1:11:36

eyes, like he's not a guard.

1:11:38

Yeah.

1:11:38

I just don't think that they trust these other guys. And

1:11:41

I will see what happens with Strange's injury too,

1:11:43

but I think there's a really good chance that Landen Robinson

1:11:46

wins that job just outright, you know,

1:11:48

is the best guard for the job.

1:11:49

Yeah.

1:11:49

After those signings though yesterday, which they you

1:11:52

know, signed four guys, including one

1:11:55

j no not ja person, Jotham Russell,

1:11:57

who is Australian.

1:11:58

So he has it.

1:11:59

So they're ninety one now.

1:12:00

But right you know, thirteen u DFAs, eight

1:12:02

draft picks on path player

1:12:04

twenty one rookies. It's it's a good

1:12:06

influx. It just you know, I think it's it's what this team

1:12:08

needed, especially at those positions. But there are big questions.

1:12:11

Is that how's it all going to play out? I mean, there's

1:12:13

some good players, probably a wide receiver that have played NFL

1:12:15

snaps. They are probably gonna get cut from this team, even though

1:12:18

it's a huge need for the team.

1:12:19

Yeah, you also just wonder, like Kendrick

1:12:21

Bourne kJ Osborne,

1:12:24

at what point do the coaches look at them and

1:12:26

say, hey, you know, Jalen Polk, it's his

1:12:28

time, you know, like he's thirty seventh overall pick,

1:12:30

he's better than you, he's younger than you. Like,

1:12:32

we got to play the kid. And a guy like Kendrick

1:12:35

Born comes back on a pretty decent contract,

1:12:37

and now you're kind of telling him, well, you

1:12:40

know, Jalen Polk's gonna play Z and

1:12:43

you're gonna play bench. You know, Like it's just like that's

1:12:45

a little bit of a difficult thing there too.

1:12:47

In that receiver room, I'd say is like those two

1:12:49

guys Osborne and Bourne were signed

1:12:52

as free agents, brought back in Bouren's case,

1:12:54

and then they draft two guys to kind of play

1:12:56

a little bit like both those guys, Like there's a

1:12:58

little bit of overlap there for sure.

1:13:00

Uh, let's say Floyd and Michigan.

1:13:02

Mister says, please tell Gerard Mayo, don't

1:13:05

single out Drake may Did

1:13:07

any of the coaches from Chicago, Washington and

1:13:09

Minnesota say their quarterbacks.

1:13:11

Have a lot to work on?

1:13:13

People got so worried up about it.

1:13:14

I can't believe he was asked about it specifically.

1:13:17

If Gerard Mayo is gonna say that Drake May has

1:13:19

a lot to work on, he should have added all

1:13:21

our players and coaches have a lot to work on. Don't

1:13:24

allow the media to single Drake out. One

1:13:26

of the reasons I'm rooting for him is because I'm

1:13:28

tired of the endless criticism he receives.

1:13:32

Drake May.

1:13:33

Is he getting endless criticism?

1:13:35

I mean, I'm just hearing about some of it today for the first

1:13:37

time from some Yeah, he does.

1:13:39

In the in the draft process, he was definitely

1:13:41

the one that got told.

1:13:44

Carolina people no.

1:13:46

But there were pro and anti Drake. I

1:13:48

mean, it was the same with all the quarterbacks. But you know,

1:13:50

some guys liked panic some guys like me, some guys

1:13:53

like Daniels. But the ones

1:13:55

that didn't like If

1:13:58

you liked Daniels, you didn't like May. If

1:14:00

you liked Panics, you didn't like McCarthy. Yeah,

1:14:03

you know like that. That was pretty common in

1:14:05

the draft, don't you say.

1:14:06

I think, yeah, I think Drake

1:14:09

May got got most of the heat

1:14:11

out of all these guys. I think he got

1:14:13

the most. I would say, I

1:14:16

agree with Floyd him and maybe

1:14:18

JJ McCarthy was close because.

1:14:20

Either McCarthy probably got the most.

1:14:21

You either love or you hate J McCarthy. There's in the same

1:14:24

I would say the same thing is true with Drake May whereas

1:14:26

with like Caleb and Jayden Daniels, you're kind

1:14:28

of like, all right, yeah, like I

1:14:31

can see it if it works out. You know, whether

1:14:33

it works out or not. You know, one has a crystal

1:14:36

ball. But you could kind of see it with both

1:14:38

those guys most people. But

1:14:40

I feel like Drake and JJ McCarthy

1:14:42

were the two lightning rods.

1:14:43

So what did you guys think of Chicago?

1:14:46

Just come right out end it all like

1:14:48

that.

1:14:49

I like that.

1:14:50

I mean that's kind of the straightforward way to do it.

1:14:52

I mean, it's well, that was the condition of being drafted.

1:14:54

He said that you have to say that.

1:14:56

You have to say it. They're

1:14:59

gonna have problems now, there's no question.

1:15:00

I mean, it's just, you know, he's the top guy. He's

1:15:02

been the top guy.

1:15:04

Uh.

1:15:04

I just I didn't have a problem with these comments about

1:15:06

Drake, Like it didn't even really register to me. And now

1:15:08

I feel like it's been like a firestorm of a rookie,

1:15:12

a rookie at his first o TA has a

1:15:14

long way to go.

1:15:15

As Evan said, he was specifically asked a

1:15:17

question was now.

1:15:19

Bill would have reflected, he would have said, he

1:15:21

would have said everybody has to which

1:15:24

you know, maybe would have helped Floyd with with that comment.

1:15:26

But you know, it's another kind of example

1:15:28

of things here. You kind of people glom onto

1:15:31

one little sentence and you know there's not really

1:15:33

a lot of context provided, and when you're

1:15:35

there in person listening to it, it's like, Yeah,

1:15:37

that's exactly what he should say, Like, I mean, he's a rookie,

1:15:40

he's no idea what he's doing right now.

1:15:41

He's got a long way to go.

1:15:42

And even Drake may like agree

1:15:44

with that. And he was also asked the same question,

1:15:47

like I have a lot to do. That's why I'm here

1:15:49

till nine pm. I have a lot to do. I have a

1:15:51

lot to learn, I have a lot to take

1:15:53

in.

1:15:53

So, uh, Dylan and Nashville,

1:15:57

I'm really appreciative of the content

1:15:59

you're producing both on patriots dot Com as

1:16:01

well as your social feeds under the new

1:16:03

regime. I can't explain why, but

1:16:06

something as simple as the helmet fitting videos

1:16:08

and TikTok makes it feel like

1:16:10

we the fans, are more part of the team than

1:16:12

before.

1:16:14

There you go, like that helmet.

1:16:15

Secondly, my grammar nitpick. I

1:16:18

get miffed when folks say or write, I

1:16:20

thought to myself, because it's redundant.

1:16:22

You can't think to anyone but yourself. This

1:16:25

was drilled into me by my ninth grade English teacher

1:16:27

at andover, same as Bill and Ernie, who were uh

1:16:31

dwar mates with my uncle. It was irrationally

1:16:34

bothered me. It has irrationally bothered me ever

1:16:36

since. So there you go. He needed to get that

1:16:38

plug that he went to andle for.

1:16:41

You have no idea of what he's refining.

1:16:43

I know I was hoping.

1:16:44

I didn't.

1:16:45

I thought to myself, Oh but yeah, but I thought he was saying like

1:16:47

one of us wrote that. Yeah, I don't know which A

1:16:50

lot of people say that. I heard a lot of people say, I said him.

1:16:52

I said to myself, that's what I was just gonna say. I said to myself,

1:16:54

what the heck are they doing?

1:16:55

I said self self, I

1:16:58

don't know, but yeah, he's right, that is redundant.

1:17:00

No, I hear what he's saying, I just thought that there

1:17:02

was like an example of right.

1:17:04

No, Evan is always saying, I thought

1:17:06

to myself, I should break this film down. Yeah.

1:17:08

No, I mean I get those every once in a while, I get

1:17:11

the you know, the I'm a high school English teacher

1:17:13

and you butchered this.

1:17:15

Well, you should have been here when former

1:17:17

complimentary.

1:17:19

No, actually I like it. It teaches me things.

1:17:21

No, that's no.

1:17:22

I mean that complimentary was one where you didn't even I

1:17:24

wasn't even aware that there was an eye on any to

1:17:26

two versions of it, and you a while ago.

1:17:30

At some point, I think, like I said, I think to

1:17:32

be amazed that you went to Holy Cross Paul.

1:17:34

I didn't know the name of the library till my junior year.

1:17:36

Also, and now can you speak Latin?

1:17:40

It's funny, Fred, I think I took between high school and college,

1:17:42

I took I think three years of Latin.

1:17:43

Really, and you should be able to speak to It's a deadline.

1:17:47

He didn't even you didn't go to journalism school or

1:17:49

anything.

1:17:50

He doesn't know.

1:17:51

It's just like college.

1:17:52

Ap style

1:17:54

is just a complimentary compliment.

1:17:56

I know.

1:17:56

But I'm just saying, like.

1:17:58

Those little grammars and

1:18:00

it doesn't ebod have those little grammar things like not for me, but

1:18:02

some like people can't get there there there,

1:18:04

they can't keep.

1:18:05

That one is I got no problem with that. I'll

1:18:07

give you one.

1:18:08

It's it's I got no problem with it.

1:18:09

It's but complimentary.

1:18:10

Gain.

1:18:10

I'll give you one that I have a hard time is effect

1:18:13

an effect. Yeah, effected,

1:18:15

and that's a good one.

1:18:17

Effect, that's true.

1:18:18

I feel like I write that and then I read

1:18:20

it again. I'm like, I'm going to change

1:18:22

that.

1:18:23

No, I think I had to write the front I struggle

1:18:25

with I'm with you on that one.

1:18:26

What A like certain words sometimes even like players names,

1:18:29

and it just doesn't look right to you. All of a sudden, I'm like, that doesn't

1:18:31

look right, and.

1:18:32

Put the names in the dictionary right away. Oh yeah

1:18:34

yeah.

1:18:35

For some reason, Kayden

1:18:38

Wallace like a.

1:18:40

E A I

1:18:42

had, so I had to write his draft profile,

1:18:45

and I will tell you I had

1:18:48

to correct Kayden several times.

1:18:51

When that's the control, make sure

1:18:53

you spelt it right every time.

1:18:55

My brain is just I

1:18:57

just add him to my dictionary so they don't

1:18:59

get the squire. I don't know that

1:19:01

stuff. That's

1:19:03

such a lot there's nobody at this table that knows

1:19:06

like dictionary than me.

1:19:07

What do you talk?

1:19:09

You can vouch for me. There's no one at this table that knows less

1:19:12

about computers.

1:19:12

That's true.

1:19:13

You don't know how to add stuff to the dictionary on

1:19:15

your lap.

1:19:16

I get figured out, but I don't. This is why

1:19:18

you get complimentary wrong.

1:19:20

Well, I use what's that? What's the writing

1:19:23

thing?

1:19:23

Grammar? I use that, and usually that's

1:19:25

all with the NFL in words like

1:19:27

if you're just in word, I'm sure

1:19:29

I can figure out. It's the editor check.

1:19:31

Not a part of my.

1:19:32

It's not a part of my not a hard concept.

1:19:36

This is your big J is hanging out

1:19:38

right now, swinging your big.

1:19:40

J's all over the place.

1:19:41

Don't worry about mine swinging big j.

1:19:43

Wow.

1:19:44

This is the keyword of some of this content

1:19:46

is notable.

1:19:49

That's true that, as is usually

1:19:51

the case, I might get an argument I

1:19:54

don't work blue.

1:19:54

I haven't not like, I haven't a large prospects.

1:19:57

So mine's more like a cute wow.

1:20:02

Get that checked, Fred, you got the

1:20:05

cackle from the from the producer both

1:20:08

uh A five five pats,

1:20:10

five hundred PEPSI in there, By the way, is

1:20:12

the Ace ticket houtline.

1:20:14

Oh boy, Christians

1:20:16

in LA. What's up Christian.

1:20:20

Guys here?

1:20:24

You got a bad connection with Christian. Sorry

1:20:27

he's been holding out front.

1:20:28

Aut just call back.

1:20:29

Call Uh, Danny's in

1:20:31

California. What's up, Danny, Danny

1:20:33

California.

1:20:35

It's actually hey, Travis,

1:20:39

Travis Parker.

1:20:40

I've been listening agency and I

1:20:42

have with Paul and dude.

1:20:44

Okay, you

1:20:47

got Hooper to head in and no

1:20:49

jobs referencing. Uh,

1:20:53

we think I think we've had

1:20:55

some minor ones, but Fred doesn't like the

1:20:58

constant jobs.

1:21:01

Deuce, you got to talk about your appearance this right,

1:21:03

Yeah, but Hooper drives the boat.

1:21:05

There you go, there'll be plenty of it this year. Hooper

1:21:07

drives the boat, Chief Hooper.

1:21:12

Well, Danny, I know you're in California. But Deuce

1:21:14

was on a local radio show and

1:21:16

they went they went to a Jaws trivia

1:21:19

website and started just

1:21:21

randomly asking Deuce jows

1:21:24

trivia and he was perfect fire

1:21:26

for Fox.

1:21:27

That's not surprising.

1:21:28

The one about how many people died, though, there was, that was

1:21:30

tough.

1:21:30

Greater you got it right?

1:21:32

Have you been to the Jaws Bridge and.

1:21:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we

1:21:36

go we go every year.

1:21:37

It's like we make a point.

1:21:38

He laid a wreath for the woman that died.

1:21:41

Who is that?

1:21:42

You guys are right over there that got his leg bitting

1:21:44

off?

1:21:44

You know, yeah that that leg

1:21:46

just comes the

1:21:49

guy on the boat. You like that scene? Now, randomness,

1:21:54

what happened?

1:21:55

All right?

1:21:56

Well, I gotta say what happened? I gotta say real

1:21:58

quick. Just I'll make this quick trip. I listened

1:22:00

to like an.

1:22:01

Hour and a half podcast called The Jaws Obsession

1:22:04

solely about what really happened in Ben Gardner's

1:22:06

boat.

1:22:06

So that's how freaking jaws nuts. And let

1:22:08

me tell you, this is a the deepest

1:22:10

of dives.

1:22:11

Oh, forensic people for exit

1:22:13

examiners like you know, because it's never really

1:22:15

explained. Like you know, Cooper goes down and you see

1:22:17

this. The body's in the boat. It didn't get eaten

1:22:19

by jaws. It's got an eyepopping up. What happened?

1:22:22

Check out the podcast to find out, Mike and I.

1:22:24

Like, I think it was the CIA.

1:22:27

It's called The Jaws Obsession and

1:22:29

it's on YouTube.

1:22:30

And this guy not only did he hire like a

1:22:32

boat builder to tell you everything there is to know about

1:22:34

Ben Gardner's boat. But they literally had like a

1:22:36

forensic guy come in look at the body and be like,

1:22:39

what kind of trauma did this guy suffer? And

1:22:41

how might it have happened? Like hour

1:22:43

and a half that, Yeah, go check it out. If you're a

1:22:45

jaws nerd like me.

1:22:50

All right, Danny, thanks,

1:22:52

There's nothing better than the word.

1:22:53

Somebody calls in and they're like, I got a bone to pick with

1:22:56

Douce and Paul and then it's like a Jaws.

1:22:59

When he said he had a bone to pick with me, I was

1:23:01

like, oh, what did I do now? And then he said induce. I

1:23:03

immediately thought it had to be something like that, yeah,

1:23:06

because how could he have a bone to pivot? Both?

1:23:08

Right?

1:23:08

And it's got to be a justing.

1:23:09

But did you catch fred On the rest of the show,

1:23:11

we were kind of questioning if Hardy would be willing

1:23:13

to come back to the postgame and pre postgame show.

1:23:15

And we'll find out tomorrow.

1:23:17

Sound like that door hasn't been completely closed yet,

1:23:19

find out tomorrow has to come back.

1:23:21

I told him.

1:23:22

I told him that when the schedule comes out, give

1:23:24

it a look and look if

1:23:26

you think it's doable. What's popular ocular

1:23:30

if you think it's doable, let's do it.

1:23:32

I mean, what if we could even get him for like a ten game set,

1:23:34

you know, and then we'll just just figure it out seven.

1:23:36

I think you guys will be okay. If he can't do it, that

1:23:38

will be.

1:23:38

Less fun that I think it'll be all

1:23:41

right. Although he's definitely not going to do the preseason

1:23:43

ye oh god on Friday,

1:23:45

you're going to be doing other fun stuff with other people now

1:23:47

too. I guess there always

1:23:50

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Hope is on the way.

1:24:24

I washed all the cushions.

1:24:26

That's not the same one.

1:24:28

I washed all the cushions on my outdoor pressure

1:24:30

washer.

1:24:31

Do you keep all your outdoor stuff outside all

1:24:33

you.

1:24:33

Well, I keep it covered up, but yes, I

1:24:36

have covers for it.

1:24:37

They stay intact. Oh

1:24:39

yeah, keep all because

1:24:41

I do have a cover.

1:24:42

But act on the cushions. I unzipped

1:24:44

them. I took them out, and I put the cush the covers

1:24:47

in the washing and they came out really nice.

1:24:50

Yeah, that's the next high level side.

1:24:52

I'm kind of that's all right.

1:24:54

And then I put the cushions back

1:24:56

on, and I bought the cans of Scotch guard

1:24:59

and on them all and

1:25:01

so there now weatherproof.

1:25:02

And those things are going anywhere. You got those forever,

1:25:05

Dad, somewhere right. Oh

1:25:07

so fun mowing a lawn mode your own lawns.

1:25:10

It's pretty Saturday.

1:25:13

And then you turn around and you look at you smell

1:25:15

it at your work. It's like, I did,

1:25:17

I've done good work.

1:25:18

Can I just tell you whack her out? It's

1:25:21

great Saturday afternoon. I bought I bought

1:25:23

a new lawnmower on Friday. But

1:25:26

did you come here? I got to didn't

1:25:29

come. I came so came yesterday.

1:25:31

Oh yeah. So I

1:25:33

was having people over on Sunday for

1:25:35

Mother's Day and

1:25:38

I my grass was kind of long. I hadn't

1:25:40

cut it yet. Guy down the street,

1:25:42

Yeah, guy down the street. It promised me

1:25:44

it was gonna come. It's now. It's like two o'clock on Saturday.

1:25:48

I can't have people at my house like just exactly

1:25:50

what Fred just did is exactly how I felt like. I

1:25:52

can't have people looking at my lawn

1:25:55

like this. So I get home from

1:25:57

TJ's game and the guy across the

1:25:59

street is just finishing up his lone. I walk over and

1:26:01

go, Rick, can I give you fifty?

1:26:04

Can I? Can I borrow you?

1:26:05

Moll Yeah?

1:26:06

Absolutely. So he's basically

1:26:08

got the same exact model that I just bought,

1:26:10

only it's not self propelled. Got

1:26:13

a little bit of a workout. I wasn't expecting. He why

1:26:15

didn't you use yours? Why did you just use use his? Because

1:26:17

I just bought one hasn't come. It

1:26:19

doesn't come yet.

1:26:20

Yeah.

1:26:20

I bought it Friday. I got this new one. You're likedy

1:26:24

afternoon, and it came yesterday

1:26:26

and I got home from work. It was waiting in my

1:26:28

drive ready for or no,

1:26:30

no, no no.

1:26:31

I kind of like it.

1:26:32

And it's exactly what Fred said, like when I do

1:26:34

it and everything it's all nice and neat, and I look,

1:26:36

you get that, you know the clippings, you can

1:26:38

spell it.

1:26:39

A little bit.

1:26:39

I did the whole shebang. I did nice level, the trim,

1:26:42

and the blow all three which

1:26:45

we used to have. We have our people

1:26:48

coming, he mos, he blows and he goes. That's

1:26:51

but you know, when you do the whole thing. It was an hour and a half.

1:26:53

I timed it and like, yeah, that's what. It takes hour and

1:26:55

a half to do the whole thing, all three phases, and it

1:26:57

looks not I just got to get more.

1:26:59

Turned very satisfying.

1:27:00

I never moved the lawn, never have them.

1:27:03

Never.

1:27:03

No, my parents paid somebody.

1:27:06

So I have paid someone to do it

1:27:08

the last push years, pushy like boys.

1:27:12

But I see I pay someone

1:27:14

for the spring stuff like the place

1:27:16

on the mulch beds and the edging around

1:27:18

that. And I still will pay for

1:27:20

that because in a professional

1:27:23

touch with yes, it's just that it

1:27:25

doesn't look it doesn't look as good. But

1:27:28

there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to cut your own grass.

1:27:30

There's no reason a thirty forty bucks

1:27:33

a week to have someone do that.

1:27:34

I mean you're not a man.

1:27:35

Well shoveling yes, oh, shoveling,

1:27:39

breaking leaves, yes. But

1:27:41

for some reason, my dad he

1:27:43

didn't want to do it, and he knew that fifty

1:27:46

to fifty that he would actually get me to do it, so

1:27:49

like, you know, I'm just gonna pay somebody.

1:27:51

I've always mowed the lawn.

1:27:52

So basically, about an hour after

1:27:55

I was done, Freda, the

1:27:57

guy texted Beth and he's like, yeah, I

1:27:59

went by to do the lawn, but it looks like you're all

1:28:01

set, which is save yourself

1:28:03

some money or no. I wanted

1:28:06

the spring cleaning done. That's what you're supposed to do.

1:28:09

And when he does the original spring cleaning, he's gonna

1:28:11

cut the grass too. When he's there, Like

1:28:14

it takes them like they have the stand up thing,

1:28:16

zero turn, Like it takes them literally two

1:28:19

minutes to do.

1:28:20

My right, people are

1:28:22

just obsessed with Tom Curran and his take on

1:28:24

Drake May Tom and England. To add

1:28:26

further context to his comments, he

1:28:29

spent most of his podcasts this week telling

1:28:31

us that Joe Milton had the better arm was

1:28:33

more accurate and had the most impressive

1:28:35

throw of the day. He questioned Drake

1:28:38

May directly asking him how he felt

1:28:40

about Layman's saying

1:28:42

that your footwork sucks, and then went

1:28:44

on another podcast yesterday where he said

1:28:47

that JJ McCarthy is a better quarterback

1:28:49

than Drake May and went into detail

1:28:52

about why he thinks. So think

1:28:54

the Drake hate train has left

1:28:56

the station, with conductor currents selling

1:28:59

the tickets.

1:29:00

Okay, well I take that.

1:29:02

You know, look, I watched I watched practice,

1:29:05

and I'll tell you my opinion. I thought Joe Milton

1:29:08

does have an excellent arm. I wasn't

1:29:10

totally blown away by Drake May's

1:29:13

hand canon, but I thought he

1:29:15

made all the throws.

1:29:16

He looked very smooth to me.

1:29:18

And when it got seven on seven, it wasn't even

1:29:20

really close. You saw how far Joe Milton

1:29:22

has to go. I mean, he hasn't played a lot, he's

1:29:25

got processing issues and you know, and Drake

1:29:27

May it was like I think I said it off air,

1:29:29

like he went first and it was like, you know,

1:29:32

I think a crosser, a couple of hitches on the outside.

1:29:34

It wasn't anything, you know, crazy, but it looked

1:29:36

just smooth and okay, and then Milton got

1:29:38

in and you realize, Wow, there is a lot going on here.

1:29:40

And you know, maybe I kind of understood what May

1:29:43

did, but.

1:29:44

I don't know.

1:29:45

Drake had a really nice throw too, going

1:29:48

away from us, you know, lofted it in.

1:29:50

I forget what receiver it was.

1:29:51

It might have been polked, but but

1:29:54

I just think he looked a little more polished

1:29:56

to me, you know, and it wasn't.

1:29:58

It's not all arm strength, you know. And you can see those

1:30:00

three things that Karen said, I

1:30:02

mean, one of them is indisputable. Milton has a better run,

1:30:04

yeah, he

1:30:07

said. He also was

1:30:09

more accurate. You guys would disagree with that. That

1:30:11

all three of you would disagree with that. And the last

1:30:13

one the best throw of the day, Like

1:30:17

who cares?

1:30:17

Yeah, one play a lot.

1:30:20