PhD candidate, fellow nerd, and renaissance man Carl Tutton tells me the difference between an iPhone and a fridge, and we discuss what's in common between an obsession with material goods and a drug addiction
How to Save a Planet podcast referred to multiple times in this episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5Dmp79iTEVqizinjOmjGpP?si=0a04c8ab632c40e8
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