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the 100 most essential hair

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metal albums of the 1980s

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are coming in man at number

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eighty is the nineteen eighty three

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record from crocus headhunting THE

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IS the

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you know i like me from focus i kinda

3:29

did the book a little bit better than

3:32

this one but i gotta feel we're

3:34

gonna be talking on that bad

3:36

boy at some point yeah crook this is kind

3:38

of a weird band they were

3:40

in all the record store that always run into it

3:43

but you never really heard them when i first started

3:45

getting into you know something that wasn't kiss uh...

3:48

you know like molly crew and and twisted sister

3:50

were hot quiet right came out and they started

3:52

seeing some of these records but they always had

3:54

that red box around the outside of the album

3:57

because that came with a red back to the Arista

4:00

Records and Arista

4:02

wasn't exactly a hotbed of

4:05

hard rocker metal and

4:07

so it's kind of a weird thing there and

4:10

on top of that they just had a ton of albums

4:12

so you didn't know which one was any good.

4:15

This is the seventh studio album

4:17

by the Swiss hard

4:19

rock band Crocus believe

4:21

it or not yeah the next album The

4:23

Blitz was the one that kind of helped

4:26

them a little bit they might have done a little

4:28

more mainstream with the album after that I came up with

4:30

a change address something like that one

4:32

that's got that dreadful schools

4:35

out cover on it but

4:38

that said I actually am

4:40

a big fan of Mark

4:43

oh Mark Storachi Mark

4:45

Storris whatever I'm not

4:48

sure how to pronounce his name but I

4:50

do know that he's an amazing singer I really

4:52

enjoy his voice and you know

4:54

I think these guys maybe deserve a

4:56

little more credit than they get I'm not going to

4:59

call them underrated I

5:01

don't know that they really ever had that kind of

5:03

cross appeal they were really dorky and

5:05

their songs weren't as I

5:08

don't know what you want to call it like a broadly

5:10

palpable as say the scorpions who were

5:12

just as dorky and with silly

5:15

foreign names that we can make fun of

5:17

here in America but this

5:20

is a pretty good record though I know

5:22

a lot of people would say this is their best one I

5:24

guess that I kind of prefer the blitz a little bit more

5:27

the band is still kicking I

5:29

believe they did a farewell tour

5:32

and then said nah not

5:34

so fast they never come to

5:36

America though so we don't see them this

5:38

record was released in April 25th 1983 it's

5:41

produced by Tom Alomar who did a lot of stuff

5:43

with Judas Priest and he's got a he's a name

5:45

we're gonna hear as far as a producer quite a

5:48

few times more on this

5:50

list as we keep getting into it he's

5:52

one of those 80s guys that really

5:54

played a role production wise in a lot of the

5:56

albums that we all know and love so we

6:00

can almost do it a whole episode and you know what

6:02

maybe i'll reach out the time to buy just in a

6:05

poor quick interview and you know it had to be somewhere

6:07

around this time that these

6:09

matters wife made some stage clothes

6:11

for these guys and apparently the

6:13

stiffer and i

6:15

believe that he could is

6:18

still going on today one of the great

6:20

unknown rock and roll feuds of

6:22

all time the fighter go get him go

6:24

get empty i'd

6:27

love to get into the ranking here so this

6:29

comes in at number eighty it had an average

6:31

rank of sixty four

6:33

point two eight five seven one

6:36

yours truly had a coming in at number eighty three so

6:39

i'm keeping up to be pretty close to work ended up

6:43

some ridiculous idiot had this rate at thirty

6:45

four that's just way too high uh... but

6:47

uh... i'm just kidding it's a bit so

6:49

tight ranking with thirty four its lowest ranking

6:51

was ninety two and that

6:53

gives us an average score at the album roll

6:55

said and done the numbers pan out of eighty

6:59

coming in at number seventy nine is a

7:01

record that i like quite a bit it

7:03

is the debut record from a bank coming

7:05

out of phoenix arizona almost

7:07

nobody ever heard of because they they

7:09

just didn't click but they're on

7:11

capital records they had to major label releases

7:14

on their and any truck would actually revive

7:16

their career later on in

7:18

the eighties on mega force records and i

7:20

think i had a tie into another major

7:23

level Uh... if you haven't

7:25

got that already, it's Icon with their

7:27

self title debut album. I'm

8:54

in picks. Mind your data, the second where a

8:56

man that is. As.

8:58

Bad as ah man So yeah I

9:00

can come on out of Arizona Do

9:02

really never made any waves. They had

9:04

this record in the follow up ah

9:06

right between the I are Not know

9:08

I'm sorry night of the Crime neither

9:10

the crime rate between the eyes of

9:12

the Etti Trunk produced record in between.

9:14

There they did as independent release called

9:16

of our a More Perfect Union and

9:18

that believe that's when they changed singers.

9:20

Somewhere after the second record came out

9:22

they switch to different singer who had.who'd

9:24

be and the subsequent record. ah but

9:26

at the time it was I'd. Steve

9:28

Clifford on vocals, John Would Lean

9:31

on on guitars, damn Wexler guitars

9:33

and vocals. Tracy.

9:35

Wallet on base in vocals and

9:38

Pat Nixon on drums. Will.

9:40

You might be asking yourself, you haven't really mentioned

9:43

them Every band member of every record. why are

9:45

you doing it now? trying

9:47

to fill some time there's not a

9:49

lot of info on icon out there

9:51

are fun fact though i can share

9:53

with the listeners is there is an

9:55

icon group on facebook that i have

9:57

been kicked out of in banned from

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So I have that little badge

10:02

of honor to go for me which left them with

10:04

four members So I don't know you think they'd want

10:06

to keep me around but produced by

10:08

Mike Varney who started shrapnel records

10:10

and Definitely played a pretty

10:13

big role in this

10:15

scene during that time He's definitely an important character

10:17

not really known for his production

10:21

of records that include like on major labels, basically,

10:23

you know, it was really known for Finding

10:26

that shredder guitar player and you know putting

10:28

together instrumental records for him and those guys

10:30

getting picked up by by bands as the

10:32

time went along And like

10:34

I said, this was released on Capitol Records and

10:37

icon, I don't know in one sense

10:39

or another does still exist based on the Conversations

10:44

that I used to be able to have on

10:46

Facebook with my fellow iconoclast members,

10:49

but It sounds like

10:51

the guys basically all live sort of close to each

10:53

other in Arizona is my best read on it Anyway

11:07

I'm not sure if we'll ever see music from

11:09

that But that's kind of the vibe I got

11:11

from the the icon group I used

11:14

to be a part of is that there is actually

11:16

something happening here. I know they read they've done a

11:18

rock, Oklahoma Once or

11:20

twice and there's some kind of poor

11:23

quality bootleg video from

11:25

the 80s out there that that you can

11:27

find but Just not a

11:29

lot of information on an icon and I

11:31

think this is a fabulous record. I honestly

11:33

do When I got it,

11:35

it was a record a tape that I would you

11:38

know, basically play pretty heavily it

11:40

stayed in my rotation But

11:42

let's get to let's get to the rankings here.

11:45

So this had an average this came in at number

11:47

79 It

11:49

had an average ranking of sixty four point

11:51

one four two Which I

11:54

think is pretty respectable considering how little this

11:56

album is known That means the people that

11:58

were involved in making this list are

12:00

aware of it and and have heard it so i

12:03

had it right that number thirty nine i

12:06

had a fucker in the top fifty i'm telling you

12:08

i do love this album believe it

12:10

or not that is not the highest

12:12

ranking it received it received a high ranking

12:14

of twenty five any low

12:16

ranking of ninety one now a

12:20

lot of the i should mention right now a

12:22

lot of these albums of the this bottom half

12:24

especially the lesser-known ones obviously uh...

12:26

they received it like no vote no

12:28

ranking other words are people that uh...

12:30

so then they were penalized you know

12:33

uh... mathematically uh... but if

12:35

people were familiar with the dating in the summer

12:37

of the fact that that got pretty much the

12:39

most no votes uh... but

12:41

it's still you know whatever the it tallied up the vote

12:43

to tally the and the people that voted for it are

12:45

familiar with it was a good so hopefully now that we've

12:47

got to use a little bit and i've

12:50

praised it some of the people that

12:52

uh... help contribute to list maybe you will go out and

12:54

check it out so uh...

12:56

i definitely like this record the best this

12:58

is my favorite out album from these guys

13:01

are really the next album actually they will

13:03

try to do they

13:05

wanted to still stay a little bit

13:07

hair metal but uh... also can again

13:09

come in that that uh... mac pop

13:11

music is only the just doesn't work

13:15

uh... and also on

13:17

the the the singer uh... steven

13:19

cliford leaves so i

13:21

picked up that that uh... independent release

13:23

it in a more perfect union in

13:25

arizona basically i thought in the tape

13:28

uh... in the in the music store

13:31

got a rock boner had to buy it

13:35

and it was it's okay some

13:37

of the songs ended up being on right between the eyes of

13:39

the album that came out after that uh...

13:41

on atlantic records uh... slash mega force

13:43

and i believe executive produced by any

13:46

truck i could you not uh...

13:48

and that's an okay record to i just don't care

13:50

for the singer quite as much other than but you

13:52

know they've been still a dvd for them i think

13:54

you know it was definitely

13:56

worth uh... holding onto all these years of the upload

13:59

all of the while There

14:01

you go. That's probably the most anybody's talked about Icon

14:03

now and quite some time. So

14:05

hopefully me giving

14:07

them some love has at least made some people

14:09

that hadn't been familiar with them a little more

14:12

curious. And the people that are and do like

14:14

it, maybe I gave them just a little bit

14:16

of a warm fuzzy. Back

14:18

to back, Baco Classics. I love

14:21

this next record so

14:23

fucking much. It is

14:26

Cool From The Wire from Dirty Looks. Crap

15:00

Rams! Come on here and

15:02

play! Do me do what?

15:05

Do me give me some love? Have

15:07

a treat? What's the thing? Let me do

15:09

your lucky play! Play!

15:15

Cool From The Wire! Cool

15:19

From The Wire! Come so

15:21

on! Crap

15:23

From The Wire! Cool

15:27

From The Wire! Crap

15:29

From The Wire! Cool

15:31

From The Wire! Cool

15:34

From The Wire! The

15:36

badass factor of

15:39

number 78 on our list is

15:41

just off the charts. This

15:43

is a perfect fucking

15:46

record. I

15:48

gotta tell you, look, I don't think these guys are

15:50

gonna be fucking, you know, Deaf Leppard. But they definitely

15:52

should have been at

15:54

least as big as White Lion. My

15:56

God! One

15:59

of the bands that... people who know this record

16:01

will will say underrated and

16:03

always hesitant to use that term but

16:05

man it really fucking applies here the

16:08

title track cool from the wire can't

16:11

take my eyes off you will be put

16:13

a spell on you know brains child get

16:16

off this whole fucking record is

16:18

eight perfect album perfect and

16:21

if they had the weakest thing on here is the

16:23

first thing i heard in the phone call it's

16:25

not the way you rock you on that

16:28

dreadful johnny b good movie sound during

16:31

the eighties and then i

16:33

stumbled at it so that was how

16:35

i i first heard of these guys so

16:38

i like the name of the cool kind of fit with

16:40

the the eighties vibe and everything that was going on but

16:43

i didn't know if i was ever gonna hear

16:45

from him again and and honestly i thought it's

16:47

not the way you rock was at best and

16:49

okay song but there's something

16:51

about the album cover which is really weird because

16:54

it's just a close-up black and white shot of

16:56

losing your head and it was the guard henry

16:59

we're named for a guy coming out of iri pennsylvania

17:02

i believe he's actually uh... danish-born

17:04

but uh... the band

17:06

is out of iri pennsylvania we're going

17:08

back at the something very just slick

17:10

in bad-ass and simple about the album

17:12

cover and i thought

17:15

that uh... at a local like electronic store

17:17

and i picked it up and my

17:20

lord when the first note

17:22

to that there really really really really

17:25

i was basically orgasmic for the

17:27

next forty minutes or so this

17:30

was on the you know atlantic record to come

17:33

out in eighteen eighty eight produced by

17:35

max norman whose name is good one of the other comes

17:37

up quite a bit as we get through this seriously

17:40

if you don't know this record it's out there

17:42

right you gotta check it out uh...

17:45

i do know will henry kahla

17:47

uh... with the guard if i'm pronouncing

17:49

the name right uh...

17:51

he uh... he passed away and i'll just uh...

17:53

in the last ten years or so and

17:56

uh... Let me just see if

17:58

I can pull it up here. Let's see. We did. he. Say

18:03

here from trying to. Figure

18:07

out there was a A S like

18:09

I am just that find him am

18:11

sites Ah, Henrik that died in there

18:13

in his early two thousand. At some

18:16

point they recently reunited and sought a

18:18

D V D and released. It may

18:20

have Jason Mcmaster from Dangerous Toys singing

18:23

for them, who's actually quite a good

18:25

fats. And anybody that the pleasure of

18:27

talking to or meetings is a Mcmaster

18:29

knows he's not just one of those

18:32

with like I can I get you

18:34

know, just fucking eighties like Dirty Eve.

18:36

Sleaze Rock Singers is

18:38

also an amazing person

18:41

who are. Doesn't. Here

18:43

so good on one side of his in one

18:45

of his ears. so like it makes bleed into

18:47

the good one of them get them leverages. Anyway,

18:50

back to this record. Yeah I swear to

18:52

God I I think this is just a

18:55

goddamn masterpiece. This is a towards the end

18:57

of the eighties it's after Guns and Roses

18:59

Appetite for Destruction, but I think just before

19:01

in my memory is just before of that

19:04

record actually broken? Know that record took about

19:06

a year to to really click with the

19:08

jocks. And then turn

19:10

Guns and Roses into the of the

19:13

biggest ban on the planet. but Dog

19:15

Dirty looks cool from the wire. The

19:17

Sub Mazare followed up with other album

19:20

called turn of the Through which I

19:22

like a lot. Ah, it's just not

19:24

as have you heard lessons put it

19:27

that way. It's tough to beat those

19:29

motherfucker now. but they kept going. They

19:31

were releasing albums throughout the the on

19:33

my knees largely independently and. And.

19:36

It was mainly just Henrik they were kept

19:38

it going off. I do think for the

19:40

of the band that that reunited recently in

19:42

a the house of the members of of

19:44

this original ban but I never at a

19:46

chance to see a minute really to or

19:48

that ever leave visiting the have that big

19:51

thing. This album peaked at number one thirty

19:53

four so that isn't that great and you're

19:55

just not going to in this is their

19:57

biggest thing so unfortunately that's the weight as

19:59

let's the to the rankings on it though.

20:02

I. Had a sucker. Well.

20:05

Let me get the average for assessed

20:07

for if I lose my city or

20:09

this is exactly one spot better than

20:11

Icon Self Played on the to a

20:13

night average ranking. I'm sixty three point

20:15

One four to to bring it in

20:18

at number seventy eight yours truly had

20:20

at rank that number twenty One which

20:22

was the highest ranking anybody game. It's

20:24

one of the person in Reykjavik number

20:26

twenty eight and is also received a

20:28

low ranking of number Ninety Five so

20:31

I had apparently that person's death. I

20:33

don't know what the hell you. Want

20:35

with this record doesn't give you but yeah

20:37

dirty work. Since their self titled they are

20:39

not self titled debut record our call from

20:42

The Wire to check it out. Common in

20:44

the next that number seventy eight. That.

20:47

I get there at nine seventy. It was a. Dirty.

20:49

Word Company to Seventy Seven. Other debut

20:51

album this one from a band coming

20:54

out of bought an organ or something

20:56

like that off their on the North

20:58

West. Ah support I would have commentary

21:00

of their fucking is like a movie.

22:00

I know what I might be.

22:07

How could

22:10

it be? There don't

22:12

want to be, but I can't know

22:14

how to get it. Come on, say

22:16

no, say no. Oh

22:19

no. It ain't me. I know what

22:21

I might be. Oh no. It

22:23

ain't me. I know what I might be. Oh no. It

22:26

ain't me. It ain't me. It's not me. I

22:30

can't see what I'm seeing. I'm so scared. You

22:35

know, I'm a little surprised that this came

22:37

in as low as it did, mostly because

22:40

I don't think there's a band

22:42

from this scene, this genre, this

22:44

time that gets labeled underrated, more

22:48

should have been huge, more

22:50

than black and blue. But while

22:52

I do like black and blue, and this is

22:55

a decent record, and I kept up with them

22:57

after this, and it was all kind of cool,

23:00

fun stuff, come

23:02

on, man. They

23:04

were kind of goofy looking. The

23:07

name black and blue, well, I

23:09

really fucking stretched the muscles in the marketing

23:11

department for coming up with that bad boy.

23:14

They're really more famous and more

23:16

well known for having Tommy Thayer,

23:18

their guitar player, becoming ace, freely,

23:21

and kiss. By

23:23

the way, you can see Tommy as an avatar

23:26

in 2027. Look forward to that,

23:28

people. So that

23:30

said, this record came out on August 2,

23:33

1984. It

23:35

probably has their most notable song on it, Hold

23:38

On to 18. I'll

23:40

share a quick anecdote with you. At

23:42

the time, my then future

23:44

wife asked me to take her to

23:46

a Warren show. And

23:49

just to update anybody not familiar with my other

23:51

program, Co. was on fire, Baco not

23:53

the biggest Warren fan. It's

23:56

still a night out and checking out some 80s metal, going

23:58

to a bar and having a good a good

24:00

time uh... why not so

24:03

we could do that in the back of my head

24:05

jamie st james is saying like man it'd be it'd

24:07

be fucking bad at the beginning of drop fucking whole

24:09

and eighteen somewhere during the fed but i

24:11

wasn't hold my breath about they did not doesn't make a whole

24:13

lot of sense much to my

24:16

delight they did it was part

24:18

of their encore and

24:20

the look on my then future wife's face when

24:23

i'd just started going to be at that

24:25

point you know bach would have a few cores lights

24:27

are but why is it whatever they're gonna night i

24:30

was feeling it and i was in the moment and i

24:33

it was uh... it was one

24:35

of the best moments of uh... my concert attending

24:37

history of all time because black and blue they

24:39

must face it they they just never got big

24:41

enough we're getting check them out in their heyday

24:44

and frankly jamie still sounded pretty good and uh...

24:46

warrant deliver the track pretty solid uh... you know

24:49

i'll see them in a bar so like four

24:51

feet away what was going on uh...

24:53

so i could also that thank you warrant uh... i'll

24:55

never forget that and i still don't think you're that

24:57

good but back to this

25:00

record it came out in nineteen eighty four

25:02

this is produced by dader gird he's

25:04

actually kind of a common name to more known for his

25:06

work with you

25:08

know you have the the the old german connection there

25:11

i'm not sure how it comes into uh... a

25:13

ban from uh... the like i said i think they're

25:16

from portland or seattle another they're up there in the

25:18

northwest uh... you put it in states uh...

25:21

they technically are still doing

25:24

stuff i think what's the only together for like uh...

25:26

much of the rock crew thing with

25:29

one notable exception in that never has uh...

25:32

tummy fair uh... i believe

25:34

jeff will warner uh...

25:37

went missing for a while i thought something like you were

25:39

here like a member alert for him uh...

25:42

not too long ago on social media but i

25:44

believe uh... he was found alive and everything was

25:46

okay fun fact

25:48

but i did uh... i use the

25:50

rolling stone ranking for my grand podcast

25:52

uh... the rolling stone just had this

25:54

one and number twenty eight Not

25:57

too far for yours truly. Put this

25:59

that. But let's get into the overall

26:01

rank you then this comes in at

26:03

number seventy seventh with an average ranking

26:06

them Sixty Two, Point Seven one for

26:08

to I added a number thirty. Adding

26:10

a solid record as a good devil

26:12

use is as essential album of the

26:14

scene. Not the highest though. The highest

26:16

vote for this came in at number

26:18

twelve with the lowest prominent Ninety Eight.

26:21

This had probably like you know the

26:23

one of the most up and down

26:25

votes of of the this is all

26:27

over the place is far as the

26:29

people that voted for itself. it's our

26:32

animals that makes it. An

26:34

old like controversy or whatever. but.like I

26:36

said, I don't know that I've ever

26:39

heard any record from any seen or

26:41

any time ever talked about. All sword

26:43

or a bit bigger than the them

26:45

fucking black and blue. And

26:48

as agrees that Hole Under Eighteen song

26:50

is if that's a ten, most of

26:52

their other songs I'm as much as

26:54

much as I dig. Om. they probably

26:56

peak in a five or six across

26:59

the board or they have a few

27:01

other jams that I really dig. ah

27:03

in. Gene Simmons would eventually get involved

27:05

in in in improves the record or

27:07

to forum other. Next record was a

27:09

little are pop years but again. He

27:12

just looks weird. They were never going to

27:14

have that that big cross appeal. Whatever I

27:16

like. I know, I know, there's a lotta

27:19

ugly people in in rock and roll and

27:21

mental, but there's a southern a little different

27:23

than little off with these guys. Ah, but

27:25

and again, black people who? come on. I

27:27

just I think it's silly. Just.

27:29

a silly silly name or the next

27:32

record teammate the company nonetheless that number

27:34

seventy six this thing actually had some

27:36

pretty good chart success and like most

27:38

of the ones who talked about this

27:40

had a high ranking of number twelve

27:42

or the us billboard chart at one

27:44

time in his axis of a fly

27:46

ball z be you album com Living

28:30

on the bus Living

28:36

on the bus Living

28:41

on the bus I've

28:47

noticed there's a lot of debut records on the

28:49

list so far, you know, it's that whole uh...

28:52

You have your whole life to write your first

28:54

album, but you only get two weeks to write the second

28:56

one Uh, yeah,

28:58

that's the way it goes I guess Kingdom

29:01

Come got a lot of shit for

29:04

being kind of a Zeppelin clone They

29:06

were basically Greta Van

29:08

Fleet 35 years before Greta Van Fleet

29:12

And kind of like Greta Van Fleet, maybe a

29:14

little unfair, like I get it, but

29:16

uh... At the

29:19

same time, when I listened to this record,

29:21

there was a couple songs that had a

29:23

very heavy influence Especially the uh... The

29:26

uh... I think Get It On was the

29:29

lead single on this And uh... that

29:31

definitely kind of has that Zeppelin vibe And look, Lenny

29:33

Wolf, the singer, sounds like it. What are you gonna

29:35

sound like? And if he purposely

29:37

tried to sound a little bit like Robert Plant, well then

29:39

maybe have a point, but maybe it's just the way he

29:41

sounds I saw these

29:44

guys live, they were my third

29:46

favorite band on that Monsters of

29:48

Rock tour that ran to the US

29:50

in I believe 88 I'll

29:53

let you pick the other two Uh,

29:56

this record's pretty good, I think it's solid, I

29:58

think this rank is actually fair I

30:01

thought about disqualifying it from the hair metal

30:03

list because it is kind of more of

30:05

a classic rock sound But

30:08

at the same time this was a

30:10

visit They were definitely trying to tie

30:12

into that whole hair metal scene and

30:14

latch on to that It was very

30:16

popular this time. So fuck it. They

30:18

belong it had

30:20

an average ranking of 61.8

30:24

5 7 I Had

30:27

this thing at 86 so about ten spots

30:29

lower than it ended up. I Should

30:33

call this guy out All

30:36

right, so I'm not gonna do that. But yeah, they had a

30:39

high ranking of number four some put it in number four It's

30:42

a good record, but this is not the fourth

30:44

most essential hair metal album of all time. That's

30:47

Come on. That's fucking ridiculous.

30:49

It had a low ranking of 94 And

30:51

it like I said it came with the average rank of

30:53

sixty one point eight five seven four to put it at

30:55

number 76 on the list There

30:59

they would follow up this record with an album

31:02

called in your face Kingdom come in

31:04

your face Grunge

31:08

killed metal. Yeah, grudge killed hair

31:10

metal not not fucking that

31:13

shit By

31:15

the way, I check out the opening track to that

31:17

deal like it's a fucking it's a banger. It's a

31:19

banger. I Alright

31:21

so who we got next on the list coming in

31:24

number 75 Oh

32:00

I'm a big fan of the new gear. I'm

32:07

a big fan of the new

32:10

gear. I'm a wild dog now.

32:13

I'm a wild dog now.

32:17

I'm a wild dog now.

32:22

Do you ever wake up with a dog around?

32:25

Do you ever wake up with a dog around?

32:29

Do you ever wake up with a dog around? I

32:55

don't know what even that means. But

32:58

the 2027 market calendars.

33:01

Coming in at 75 is the 1987 Ron Nevison produced record

33:03

Crazy Nights. At

33:08

this point Kiss was... Well,

33:10

they had a nice little bump with Lick It Up. They

33:13

took it a little next

33:15

level success-wise with Animalize. Asylum

33:19

kind of found them again, kind of going, can

33:22

we even get 5,000 people to come

33:24

see us a night? And

33:26

so they basically for the first time in

33:28

their entire career took a year off, waited

33:31

for Ron Nevison to come in, and

33:33

basically take the Paul Stanley demos and sort

33:35

of polish them. And it

33:37

was a little... I'm sure they paid a lot of money

33:39

through the nose, and I think that's why they did so

33:41

much self-production after this. But

33:45

yeah, this is... Man, I remember

33:47

I heard Crazy Nights, the song on the radio

33:49

before the record came out. And

33:51

at first

33:53

I wasn't sure it was Kiss. As a

33:55

lifelong Kiss fan, that should tell you something.

33:58

Because Paul's like, people say to take... take

34:00

my and make that sound like paul stanley

34:02

until he started saying i wasn't really convinced

34:06

uh... it also on the greatest area of the world

34:08

i was in two hours driving a seventy

34:10

eight seven omni hatchback but

34:13

um... beyond that a

34:16

big fan of this record there's some really good stuff

34:18

on here but most of it just dreadful and horrible

34:20

in the production god fucking awful

34:22

ron nivison was gonna have a good

34:24

time he just produced a couple heart

34:27

records and i can i

34:29

will rebranded them and they've actually seemed seemingly now

34:31

it turn their back on that that they were

34:33

of the band and he did the

34:35

i'll be ultimate in record which i think is a

34:37

an amazing record the production could be a little beefier

34:40

but uh... it also has to be the one record

34:42

that i feel like like this we just ignore the

34:44

pretend he didn't do which is too bad

34:47

because those are probably some of the best songs of

34:49

his career uh... go

34:51

back to that almazi let's

34:53

do it bring jake back in the band well together

34:55

we get the lose although i had a on

34:58

the actually i think you should retire ticket take

35:00

it easy you you give enough all

35:03

right so the number seventy five coming in with

35:05

an average ranking another one of these rare anomalies

35:07

only a handful of them but it came with

35:09

the perfect number sixty one with the average ranking

35:11

of that i put it number eighty

35:14

so not too far off or came in at

35:16

and it had a high ranking of thirty eight

35:18

so between thirty eight eighty i think that that's

35:21

a fair way to judge that up next is

35:23

uh... at number seventy four or a band that

35:26

i've already told you how much a loving by

35:28

the way another fucking debut record from

35:31

warren dirty rotten filthy stinking rich

36:00

the ning

36:02

playing er

36:16

military hold

36:22

more of

36:32

on unfair

36:42

the the had

36:50

of the

37:27

the the

37:30

important they had on the theme and and

37:32

definitely impact they made and i'll tell you

37:34

that so for i'm from positive positivity i

37:36

think having a good long arm i would

37:38

prefer to just move into uncle time tom's

37:40

cabin and then tap out but i

37:42

am really have had it with people trying to tell

37:44

me how talented janie lain was i'm not saying i

37:46

didn't have talent he but let's

37:49

let's stop acting like you know he's

37:52

he's paul mccarty may be the jane lain

37:54

from warren man uh...

37:56

and enough of the negativity though this

37:58

record comes in at number seven 74

38:00

it has an average ranking of 60.7 1 4 I

38:05

think the history of the band is largely known As

38:09

the 90s progressed it became Janie Lane and

38:11

bass player Jerry Dixon I think

38:14

the guitar player hung in there for a little bit

38:16

But for the most part they kind of splintered they

38:18

had kind of a weird kind of like just

38:21

those those two or three

38:23

kind of carrying the band

38:26

on and then Miraculously they

38:28

kind of mended fences and actually

38:30

tried to do a full-on reunion But

38:32

at this point Janie was kind of

38:34

uh... Well, he was near the

38:36

edge and as we know Janie lost

38:38

his life in battle with alcoholism I'm

38:41

not sure that that's the official cause of death

38:43

in hindsight, but I just know it

38:46

definitely played a role And

38:48

and that is too bad Because

38:50

you know I've had the the

38:53

unfortunate luxury of seeing these guys

38:55

so many times Other

38:57

than time my wife said let's go that was the

38:59

only time I think everyone said I'm gonna go see

39:01

warrant on purpose I've just been to a lot of

39:03

80s festivals and and they of course

39:05

are one of the bands that That that

39:07

make a lot of appearances on those so and you

39:10

know what the band seems pretty good It seems like

39:12

they're tight and they perform the songs well, and they've

39:14

had a handful of singers They kind of settled on

39:16

the guy from Lynch mob In

39:19

Robert Mason, I think for the last decade or

39:21

so so good for them for still being out

39:23

there and playing these songs They've released a record

39:25

or two Since then I think

39:28

they did one with Jamie St. James and one with

39:31

With old Robert there, but uh say you

39:33

can definitely check him out as you go

39:35

out there So as far

39:37

as ranking like I said

39:39

this comes in at number 74 had an

39:41

average ranking of sixty point seven one four

39:44

I had it at 75 so I'm not too far off of

39:46

where it was it had it came in

39:48

with a high ranking of 15

39:51

and a low ranking of 98, so I'm not

39:53

the only hater and frankly. I think I was

39:56

respectful to it I appreciate the impact that warrant

39:58

had on the scene. I just think They fucking

40:00

suck. With that, let's get to number 73.

40:03

Great White is back with twice- So

41:08

I was about a month from graduating

41:10

high school when this record came out

41:13

and uh, not gonna lie, I

41:16

always enjoyed a

41:19

band that could give you a rocker that would pull

41:21

in the squish. Not that it really ever

41:23

worked out for me back then,

41:26

but man, it was a

41:28

lot more enjoyable to uh,

41:30

let's just say like if

41:32

I have to uh, hang

41:34

out with some of

41:36

the fairest sex and listen to

41:38

Once Bitten Twice Shy or

41:42

Be With You from Mr. Big, I'm

41:46

going Great White 10 out of 10

41:48

times. So yeah, I appreciate

41:50

that. So yeah, this is a record that kind of broke

41:52

Great White. It released on April 12th, 1989. They

41:55

had been kind of floating around with Capitol

41:57

Records for a while. And

42:01

well, they just didn't really break. They had

42:03

that one song, Rock Me, on the album

42:05

before this, Once A Bitten. By

42:07

the way, Clever, Once A Bitten, Twice Shy.

42:09

And then they basically named two albums off

42:11

of one Slade song. Is that a Slade

42:13

song? I can't remember even who does that.

42:16

I think it's Slade. But

42:18

that said, Once A Bitten is a much better record

42:21

than Twice Shy. Twice Shy is, I mean there's a

42:23

song on here called Miss The Bone. Oh,

42:25

God. Oh, is that

42:28

the first one? Is

42:30

this one? I'm sorry, I

42:32

might have my albums. Oh

42:35

no, Miss The Bone's on here. Yeah, okay, I'm checking it out here.

42:38

The Angel song is one of the dumbest,

42:40

I mean that's just, that's like I Saw

42:42

Red by Warrant

42:44

before I Saw Red for more. It's just

42:46

a stupid lazy attempt at, like the record

42:48

label said, write a ballad and

42:50

they came up with the Angel song. Yeah, In

42:52

House of Broken Love. Look,

42:55

I'll give Great White a little bit of a pass when

42:57

they talk about being kind of a bluesy kind of band.

42:59

They actually deliver on that to a certain level. But

43:02

so many of these 80s hair metal bands, they try

43:04

to be bluesy at times and it's just bad and

43:06

House of Broken Love is one of those things. And

43:08

so is Miss The Bone, by the

43:10

way. It's like, I want to be stupid

43:12

like a hair metal dick, but

43:15

I also want to be blues. There's Miss The

43:17

Bone. Jesus

43:19

Christ, you literally wrote a song called Miss The Bone and

43:22

put it out. Ugh.

43:25

Anyway, but yeah, this

43:27

record actually put Great White on the map and

43:29

kind of gave him a taste

43:32

of success that frankly I think they deserved. I

43:34

think Mark Kendall is a really

43:36

unique guitar player at that time. I kind

43:38

of put him and Dave

43:40

Mediketi from Y&T in a similar boat.

43:42

They're very different guitar players, but they're

43:44

kind of those old school guys who

43:47

came in late in the 70s as

43:49

far as getting on the scene and they have

43:52

a little more taste and then they do Flash

43:54

like, let's say,

43:56

a George Lynch or Warren D. Martini. Nothing against

43:58

those guys. They're great too. but just a

44:00

different vibe. So I dig that and

44:02

I think Jack Russell is still,

44:06

by the way, an amazing singer. So yeah,

44:08

as far as where Great White is now,

44:11

there is the regular Great White. If you

44:13

know the history, there's a whole story with

44:15

the mess between the band and Jack Russell.

44:18

It's largely the original band with

44:20

a different singer. And they've gone through

44:22

a handful of singers. I think I covered it in the last

44:24

record they were on, so I'll leave it at that. And

44:27

Jack Russell is out there, and again, I covered this before,

44:29

but he's out there with his own version of Great White.

44:33

Honestly, if I got a pick between one of the

44:35

two, it's weird. Jack

44:37

Russell's voice matters more to me than Mark Kindles'

44:40

guitar, but it's

44:42

definitely a different sound. Jack

44:45

Russell's Great White has kind of a two-guitar attack

44:47

and it's more that classic 80's sound,

44:49

where if you go out

44:52

to see Great White official, you get kind of more

44:54

that actual Great White vibe to the

44:56

music. I just... This

44:59

singer just matters to me too much with this band. But

45:02

yeah, this is not a fine record, if you

45:04

ask me. But it

45:06

definitely... Look,

45:08

the fact that it basically made Great White a

45:10

band that never had to worry

45:12

about not being booked in the Monster

45:15

to Rock cruise if they wanted to, it

45:17

merits some discussion. So it

45:19

had an average ranking... Coming in at number 73, it

45:21

had an average ranking of 60.71. I

45:25

had it at number 49. Its

45:28

highest ranking really wasn't much higher than at 45,

45:30

with a low ranking of 86. So

45:36

a pretty smooth window there, so not

45:38

too far off where it came in. I did have

45:40

it in the top 50, probably

45:43

because I like Jack Russell a lot. But

45:45

yeah, this is, as far as Great White

45:47

stuff, I'm not going to put this one on

45:52

a must-get playlist. You know what I mean? That

45:55

said, it is time to move on to the

45:57

next record at number 72. Man,

46:02

these guys came out of

46:04

the aftermath of another

46:06

band. And basically two guys left and

46:09

started a new band and became bigger

46:11

than the band they were in before

46:13

that. This is Swatter

46:15

with their JB record. Take

46:18

it to ya. Oh,

46:22

no, no, no. No,

46:27

no, no. No

46:34

one's with me. Oh,

46:43

you drive me wild. Oh,

46:49

I gotta show you what I feel

46:51

in my heart. I'll

46:54

sign you in the back to the

46:56

song that I made about you. I

47:00

can read you with all that you made

47:02

me do. I made about

47:05

you. I'm

47:07

so angry, I didn't turn into you.

47:10

I made about you.

47:20

I gotta believe when this record came out

47:22

and blew up the way it is, you

47:24

got the band slaughter.

47:26

I'm thinking, man, the future

47:28

is bright. They had

47:30

no idea what was coming around the corner in

47:32

about a year, year and a half. Released

47:35

in 1990. Yeah, just so you

47:37

know, the window I have in here, I

47:39

don't know if I mentioned it before, is 81 to 91. And

47:44

that was largely done because I had to get Skid Row

47:46

Slaved to the Grind involved in the show. It has to

47:48

be in there, right? Yeah,

47:50

Up All Night was a pretty big

47:53

hit. This record did great. They basically

47:55

toured with Kiss for nine months and

47:58

things were bright. especially you

48:00

know concern they just came out of the vinnie

48:02

vinson invasion mark

48:04

slaughter and dennis drum uh... apparently tried to

48:06

bring her over bob your rock along with

48:08

but he's like you know i'm gonna go

48:10

join nelson uh... who thankfully

48:13

i don't believe it on this list uh... your

48:17

god i hope we would have already passed if it was there uh...

48:20

and by the way had his own

48:22

success there so good for you are basically

48:24

everybody but vinnie vincent uh... became a giant

48:27

success after leaving the

48:29

vinnie vincent invasion uh...

48:31

so yeah if you want more on that story can i

48:33

check out some of our past episodes on cobras and fire

48:35

we definitely get into it or you can

48:37

just hit google uh... that that

48:40

might be a little quicker than than trying to

48:42

listen to every episode uh...

48:44

but yeah this album to me is um...

48:47

it's really strong i think the only thing

48:49

on here that

48:51

doesn't make a whole lot of sense of that they did

48:53

they uh... have the song flight of the angels which was

48:55

was a massive ballot for them to uh...

48:58

probably one of the last like

49:00

monster uh... mhm hair metal ballads

49:03

that really did any damage is

49:06

that they put it uh... again at

49:08

the very end as an acoustic version

49:11

and all they did was they pulled

49:13

the drums in base out it's the

49:15

exact same song literally

49:17

the they didn't we record or do a

49:19

different version it is one hundred

49:22

percent the same thing with just some of the stuff

49:24

taken out and that was just

49:26

kinda you know i think that the time uh...

49:28

record companies are trying to squeeze every fucking minute

49:30

they could get out of a cd uh...

49:33

but anyway uh... and

49:35

this is a great record uh... i absolutely

49:38

love it i would be

49:40

came up big slaughter friend right away yet

49:43

i have i was pretty disappointed with the wildlife

49:46

i love i've

49:48

come to a appreciate a little bit more

49:50

sense than but this record is damn near

49:52

perfect and you know what for

49:54

a debut record they didn't have their whole life to

49:56

write this one man they just came out of any

49:58

vincent so apparently you can do a

50:00

fucking solid album without having your whole life

50:02

to write it ahead of it. There

50:05

you go. Slaughter fucking killing the cliche since 1990. Yeah.

50:07

Yeah. So Mark Slaughter,

50:11

Dana Strum, Tim Kelly on

50:13

guitars and Blas Elias, I believe is in the

50:15

Blue Man Group right now or

50:17

Shania Twain's band, one of the two, or

50:19

probably both. Who knows, man? This

50:22

is produced by Dana Strum and Mark Slaughter

50:24

because they're just control

50:26

freaks and this was released on

50:28

Chrysalis Records which was the

50:30

album or the record company that handled

50:32

Vinnie Vincent. They

50:36

are still out there, man. I see these

50:38

guys on these festivals once in a while

50:40

too. They're definitely monsters or rock cruisers and

50:43

Mark still sounds great. He's released a couple

50:46

solo albums that I, you

50:48

know, I mean there's definitely some

50:50

really strong standout tracks. I

50:53

don't know that I call them great albums but there's definitely, I

50:55

don't know, they're worth checking out for sure. There's

50:57

a handful of things I've dug from him. So and

51:00

you know for whatever it's

51:03

worth, they just keep kicking them and so if

51:05

you want to hear the same eight songs that

51:07

they've been playing for the last 15-20 years, go

51:09

see Slaughter and you get, honestly if

51:11

you're a Slaughter fan you're gonna enjoy it but if

51:14

you're a Slaughter fan you probably have seen them eight

51:17

or ten times in the last 15 years. Alright,

51:19

so coming in at number 72 with an

51:21

average ranking of 60.375. I had this

51:26

at number 40. It had a high

51:28

ranking of number 30 and a low ranking of 83. So you

51:30

know it is kind of all over the board but honestly most

51:32

of these

51:38

are between 40 and 60 as

51:40

far as the votes. So it's

51:43

probably placed where it should be but I do think it

51:45

me personally like obviously I had it higher out on my

51:47

personal list. I just think this record is

51:50

it's just a great collection of songs and actually

51:52

a really tip

51:55

of the hat to Dana and Mark. I think it's produced

51:57

well. I really enjoy the guitar

51:59

tone and the overall vibe of the

52:01

record so uh... hats off to you guys well

52:04

time to get outta here which means

52:06

we have one record left and

52:09

coming in at number 71 is a german band a

52:13

band that has been around for some time

52:16

by this point by the time this is

52:18

the 14th record the

52:20

scorpions with savage amoeba me

52:52

the bring

53:13

bed the

53:37

beyond by leader

53:39

dear to their fourteen record

53:41

savage amusement came out

53:43

on all uh... april eighteen nineteen

53:45

eighty eight uh... the

53:47

kind of a long break on the story is a

53:50

very well with all of it for staying which can

53:52

always part of the did they honestly benefited from the

53:54

whole hair metal thing with man like

53:56

quiet right right rats and in

53:58

crew cannot you know breaking the

54:00

scene a little bit and then they have a rocky

54:03

like a hurricane and that

54:05

album was easily the biggest record to

54:07

that point to put a live record

54:09

between then and savage amusement called worldwide

54:11

live which it also did very well

54:14

but uh... it is a little

54:16

odd for that scene in that time for

54:18

bands to take basically uh...

54:21

you know four years between the studio releases

54:23

i mean a lot of the band during

54:25

that time had forced to do albums in

54:28

that time and that's their entire output rat

54:30

was basically releasing the same record every year at

54:32

this point uh... so

54:34

but yeah are they have been around a little bit

54:36

longer and uh... you

54:39

know they definitely had

54:41

a different founded in the seventies but basically

54:43

once they get guitar player miteus jobs jobs

54:45

i don't know how to pronounce his name it here but

54:48

he has jobs uh...

54:50

when he joined the the lineup are they

54:52

basically can i get the sound basically i

54:54

think a love drive blackout and

54:57

then uh... love it for singing in this record

54:59

that they kind of kind of establish what they

55:01

were doing for the most part and

55:03

this record uh... you know it did pretty

55:06

good uh... and

55:08

i remember the mobile of the phone that uh... can

55:11

and you'll meet the wall i don't think it's very good i actually

55:14

am not the world's biggest scorpions fan

55:16

but i did see my mom's of

55:18

rock tour that i mentioned earlier

55:21

and uh... spoiler alert they were not one

55:23

of my three favorite bands that day uh...

55:26

out of personal preference i would say they were they

55:28

were my fifth favorite band of all of them but

55:31

they were the fourth best band i saw

55:33

that day their little uh...

55:35

tongue twister for you but uh... yes or

55:37

be in the nagini the last time we

55:40

talk about them uh...

55:42

this record uh... apparently a peek at number

55:44

five of the u.s. charts which is extremely

55:47

solid for that time and

55:49

uh... uh... looks like certified platinum at

55:51

a certain point not surprisingly so are

55:54

that get to you of course scorpions are

55:56

still out there uh... uh... while back

55:59

we talked about Kingdom Come, drummer James

56:01

Kotak who was in Kingdom

56:03

Come then and recently

56:06

was also a drummer for the Scorpions for a while, a

56:09

somewhat controversial figure but he passed recently so

56:11

I figure I might as well mention his

56:13

name since we're talking about Scorpions and I

56:16

forgot to bring it up during the Kingdom

56:18

Come thing. So rest in peace James. As

56:21

far as rankings coming in at number 71 we have

56:23

a Scorpion Savage Amusement with an average ranking of 60.25.

56:28

Yeah, Eris truly had this sucker at 97

56:31

which is the lowest ranking it had but people

56:33

help offset this to get it up to where

56:35

it is. The higher ranking it had was number

56:38

22 and it picks all in between

56:40

52, 80s, 30s so anyway I

56:46

don't think it's a very good record at all.

56:48

I think honestly I think the

56:51

three records prior to this are the staple

56:54

Scorpions records and like

56:57

I said it's just like my

56:59

opinion man. So

57:01

there you have it. We'll give a quick rundown here.

57:03

Today we talked about 80 to 71. At

57:06

80 we had Crocus Headhunter, 79,

57:09

Icon with their self-titled debut record,

57:11

Dirty Looks with their debut record Cool

57:14

from the Wire, Black and Blue with

57:16

their self-titled debut, Kingdom Come with their

57:18

self-titled debut, Kiss with their

57:20

debut record, just kidding, Kiss with Crazy Nights,

57:22

Warrant with their debut album Dirty Rotten, Filthy

57:25

Stink and Rich at 73,

57:27

Great White with Twice Shy,

57:30

Slaughter with their debut record at 72 and

57:35

of course we just talked about the

57:38

Scorpions coming in at number

57:40

71 with their record Savage Amusement.

57:45

Thank you for listening. We got

57:47

another episode coming up where we're just going to keep going until we

57:49

get to number one so hopefully you hang along. And

57:52

like I said please like,

57:54

rate, share, comment. I'll be

57:56

sharing comments that I get and

57:59

from the list. When I get to

58:01

the top 50, like I said, I'm kind of

58:03

back logging the first chunk of 50 just to

58:05

get the list kind of rolling. With

58:08

that said, thank you for

58:10

tuning in. Here is your moment of league.