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Glenn Mason said a long time ago at the University of Minnesota. You need

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a Pair and a Spare. Thank you, PJ. Welcome to a late

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January edition of The Pair and a Spare podcast. I'm justin guard from the

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fan. We've got Chipskogins from the Star Tribune, Ryan Burns from Gopher Illustrated

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dot com. Why are we doing a late January podcast because we told you

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that we would. Damn it. We told you we were going to be

0:20

here a couple of times a month during the off season and spring balls right

0:24

around the corner, and believe it or not, there's actually some things to

0:26

talk about in the world of college football. How we doing, guys,

0:29

and we just missed each other. That's true. We do like hanging out.

0:32

Yeah, we do like hanging out. And I'm glad that the traffic

0:36

allowed you to get here Chip today. I'm glad that I was nervous.

0:38

All your projects are put to bed so you wouldn't forget I got a clean

0:42

slate, but I'm ready to start another one now, ready to start a

0:45

new project. I'm just glad we got the text when Chip was stuck in

0:48

traffic. It was in all caps to you never know. Yeah, two

0:51

hours ago we got the text and he might not make it. I just

0:54

don't like it when I'm in ninety four. It comes to a dead stand

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steal. But that's ninety four. That's life on ninety four at whatever time

1:00

was. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter where you do. Look like

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we were feeling potholes already. Well this winter, when you have time to

1:06

do it, it's there's gonna be a little warm. It's almost forty degrees which also, by the way, Chip, I think we have to give

1:11

you congratulations mister sports right or the year right? Yeah, thank you.

1:15

Yeah. I had it on the list of our guys, and he finds

1:19

time in his busy day to somehow come in and do this podcast. I

1:23

know he's getting national renowned for his Chloe Johnson peace and so we're just happy

1:27

to be there. That's why I'm in the same room. I had a

1:33

brain ramp and spaced out and didn't I forgot about it. We somewhat forgive

1:38

you. Yeah, you knew I was working on that story. Yeah,

1:41

it was a good story. We were at the finish line. I was trying to get it across the finish line, and you did, and you're

1:46

hearing Coast to Coast International, and yeah it is. That's one cool thing

1:49

about we do a story that you feel like has some impact. Like this

1:53

morning, I gotta apparently the Atlantic City New Jersey Newspapers Press. You read

2:00

that daily, don't you? I subscribe. I want to see what's going

2:02

on with the casino. They published it and the superintendent from the schools there

2:07

email me and wanted to reach out and send Chloe a note of admiration.

2:10

You said, so, isn't that tampering? Do they have a basketball?

2:15

I might be trying to get the portal. I was going to say, I mean and nil deal for one of the Atlantic City they could. Yeah,

2:24

well, we're We're very proud of you, as we always are.

2:27

It was a wonderful piece. I was heave crying multiple times. I told

2:30

you when you came in studio with Berrero that the walk off was awesome,

2:35

The walk off line was good. And now we can only hope at some

2:37

point in your life you put that kind of effort into this. We'd appreciate

2:42

it. I think the parent as fair audience would appreciate it. If we

2:44

could get a little bit of that Scoggins. Yeah, we're only going twice

2:49

a month, right, I mean, is that too much to ask? I don't think it is. Start your day a one hundred percent? How

2:53

about give us one hundred percent? You just never know, Chip, what

2:55

kind of effort I'm gonna get when you get into the studio. We've got

2:58

a hard out the Chip today, he's got another meeting or another past.

3:01

It's like, so we're getting sixty percent Scoggins. But I guess it's better

3:06

than zero. I guess it's better than zero. All right, So last

3:09

time two weeks ago, we hit stop, we hit save, we hit

3:14

post on the Parentispair podcast, and nine minutes later, Nick Saban retired.

3:17

We are going to react to Nick Saban to the goat leaving in a little

3:21

bit. But we actually have some breaking college football news that we can react

3:24

to in that last night as we record this on a Thursday, the worst

3:28

kept secret in all of sports finally came to fruition. Jim Harbaugh leaving the

3:32

University of Michigan after winning the national championship. He will become the new head

3:38

coach of the Los Angeles Chargers and Justin Herbert he's going to so far,

3:40

he's going to Hollywood a lot to discuss on this. It seems like they're

3:45

going to hand it off to the offensive coordinator who cried after the Penn State,

3:49

Sharon Moore, which would make sense. But let's go around the room

3:53

with our reactions here before we talk about the job he did and now the

3:57

job he left to go to La Chip. I think last podcast burns he

4:00

asked us what percentage. I said fifty to fifty. I think is one

4:03

hundred percent desire on his part, sure, but I felt like it would

4:06

take the right team that would want to hire him, even though he's a

4:10

great coach, and I think he'll be successful there. Not surprising when when

4:15

he came an interview for the Vikings on National signing Day. You knew he

4:18

wanted to get back to the NFL that obviously, and then once he won

4:23

the national title, it was just obvious he was going to move on.

4:26

So a good situation for him. I think a lot of people zero end

4:29

on that one of all the openings because of Herbert Yep and his work with

4:32

quarterbacks. I think he'll be successful there. It's obviously a blow to Michigan

4:36

or whatever you think about Jim Harbaugh. He's a great coach. He did

4:39

his job there, he did what they brought him there to do. And

4:42

so I assume they you know, they're going to miss him if they hire

4:50

more more. It seems like the most I'm guessing there's a huge out pouring

4:57

of support from the players there is to go that way. Well, two

5:00

years ago was the Vikings, last year it was the Broncos. This year

5:03

he finally pulls the trigger. And the other thing we haven't talked about yet

5:06

with it is the man who's also been self suspended for six games. Don't

5:11

worry. I'm gonna get to it. I don't worry. Don't worry.

5:14

Yeah, don'try. I want to let you get on your soapbox here because

5:16

I can put Look, I know we you and I see this the same

5:19

way with this whole thing. Go for it. I you know, there's

5:23

usually there's the what's the way that people phrase it? They don't like it

5:28

when a coach leaves and then the players and the school that they leave behind

5:31

gets punished, you know, like you're punishing somebody that you're punishing people that

5:35

had nothing to do with it, or you're punishing people that it wasn't their

5:40

fault. They weren't in charge. And now this per Harbaugh gets to go

5:43

live the LA life and make eight million a year and live in California and

5:46

coach Justin Herbert, and you're punishing the kids and the coaches and the university.

5:50

I have none of that sympathy or epathy with the Michigan Wolverines. I

5:56

hope the NCA and they're not going to and they're not going to, and

5:59

it's gonna kiss me off. Yeah. I don't know what the penalty should

6:01

be, but they should be dramatic because all fall it was Michigan against everybody.

6:06

You had the freaking president tweeting out stuff. Bete Michigan, Bete Michigan.

6:13

You absolutely cheated. You did it multiple times. All the players on

6:15

your team you recruited illegally during COVID when that was like the one thing you

6:19

could get these coaches to agree on, Let's not have visits during COVID.

6:25

You can't get coaches to do anything right. That was one. You know

6:28

what, there's a worldwide pandemic. Maybe let's not meet in person and bring

6:31

recruits on campus. Not a good look. Michigan did guess what a lot

6:34

of those players are on this national championship team they participated in that The cheating

6:40

thing with Connor Stallions is preposterous. It's ridiculous. I don't care if you

6:44

don't think it shouldn't be a rule. It was a rule and they broke

6:46

it. So I would love smu death penalty. I mean, I'll be

6:50

cheering against them. I'll be cheering against them the rest of my life.

6:55

And you know, people don't like Michigan already enough and so mostly because of

7:00

I don't know what I expected from them to rally around their guy or to

7:03

not go along with it, but I have if they lose scholarships, if

7:08

this gets vacated, I hope everybody there feels stupid. They won't because it's

7:11

Michigan and they're arrogant. But I have no sympathy, empathy, whatever word

7:15

it is. I would love for the hammer to absolutely come down. So you think there's a lot of validity behind the statement of Michigan men, what

7:21

do you mean, well, they're of high integrity. You've heard that sound

7:26

for a long igus crack of ass that I've ever heard. I mean,

7:30

straight up, I mean, you've got the head coach on the National Championship Day. It's going we were innocent. Okay, then why did you try

7:34

to negotiate into your contract that you couldn't be fired for cause if you are

7:38

found out to have NCAA, just spend it for two separate times. Twice

7:43

you missed half the season. So no, I mean, good for him,

7:45

he's getting out ahead of it. He's doing the Pete Carroll. But I hope Michigan loses every game the rest of their lives. And I hope

7:49

everybody that I know that went to Michigan that went to the game and had

7:53

their stupid M hats and all the shirts that they wore and all I hope

7:57

they I hope they suck forever. Is that too hard? Is that too

8:00

harsh? No? But here's my opinion. So here's a question I'll posed

8:03

to both of you. Ready, Where Jeronmore cried like Jim Harbaugh was had

8:07

a terminal illness, like he was at the kids Hospital in Iowa City dying

8:13

of something like vigil for me, he cried emotion all on it. Connor

8:20

Stellion was at the Rose Bull correct exactly confirmed, So bleep off. I

8:24

hope you lose every game forever ever, ever Have I made my feelings clear?

8:30

I think people would say that. I would say, I don't care about any of the kids that are still in the program that did the bet

8:35

Michigan. I don't care about any of the coaches that are still in the

8:37

program. I don't care about Ward Manual, who embarrassed himself the entire way

8:41

as an athletic director. I mean, come on, give me a break.

8:45

Where does Jim Harbaugh rank among Michigan football coaches in terms of how successful

8:50

he was? Is he one? He's right up there. Yeah, he did the job he was supposed to do. Is he one one on the

8:54

lists? Yep? How many? How many outright titles did bo shemback got?

9:00

You guess a bow shambicker? Why how many titles did he win? I don't think he won an outright national title? That's all right. That's

9:05

the other thing with Michigan. I'll pull it up that people we talked about

9:09

it at the time. They've been a great I mean they're the one or

9:13

two in all times Alabama or them, Yeah, lea a one actually and

9:16

so. But it's not like they've been lighting the world on fire. With

9:18

national titles. Yeah, they won a lot of big ten titles, and

9:22

it's Woody and Bow and we all remember that. But I don't think they've

9:24

won a ton. I mean, even ninety seven they had to share share

9:28

that one, all right, Michigan means national Go ahead and talk Burnsy.

9:31

Well, that's where it was going to be with He's getting out ahead of

9:35

it, and I agree with that one hundred percent. I hate the narrative that's been going around since he took that job of well, he's got unfinished

9:41

business in the NFL. Maybe he does true to an extent, he's also

9:45

just getting out in front of whatever is going to come down. He's also

9:48

losing his first round quarterback losing it. Well, the twenty guys we said

9:52

before the season, told Bruce Evelm he's gonna have twenty draft picks off that

9:56

team. Well, that's even where you look forward to next year's team for them if they if it it's not Sharon Moore, they're going to lose.

10:03

Like Alabama did a bunch of first round picks because they got a bunch of

10:05

guys, especially on defense, they're going to be top sixty overall draft picks.

10:09

That you saw a star in that college football playoff. But I think

10:13

we all agreed without I think consensus opinion among every insider I've seen right about

10:20

it is it's Sharon Moore's job. And if it's somehow isn't him? For

10:22

sure it is you're going to see Alabama type of departures. Yeah, I

10:26

would be. I think I'd be shocked if it's not him. Yeah,

10:33

you know, I'm sure there's always that Oh, let's you know, or

10:37

Michigan, let's go make a splash. Well, if you have a guy there that has learned under Harba, did a you know, held a team

10:45

together when he was gone or whatever, players respect, Yep, you know

10:48

he knows the school. It just makes sense. Dred That's just where.

10:54

But you know, the whole unfinished business. I come on, Michigan on

11:00

to thirty two jobs. Those they all have egos and they all want to be in the NFL and be on that stage. Well, I think I

11:03

mean there's part of it. Yeah, he wants to win a super Bowl

11:05

for sure, his brother did I get it. But he also doesn't want

11:09

to have to deal with the crap that Michigan's going about to have to deal with I just would straight up like, I'm curious to see what the punishment

11:16

is. I know it'll be nothing because it's it won't be it'll be nothing.

11:18

The College Football Playoff separate from the NCAA, so they have no you

11:24

know, yeah, they can't like which again that the who cares cares you?

11:28

Yeah? Yeah, but I'd love it if they took you know, how many scholarships did they get eighty five years. I'd love it if they

11:33

took forty five of them year for the next decade, that'd be great.

11:37

Well, then they could do like some other Big ten West programs doing,

11:39

just have their nil fund the walk on go ahead. Yeah, that'd be

11:43

great. Yeah, that's great. I don't I don't think Ball won any

11:46

national championships. He won thirteen Big Ten titles. Michigan has unclaimed national titles

11:52

in seventy three and seventy six, which would be bow years where you had

11:56

a good run like where I think he theoretically could you say we run and

12:01

beat it or whatever, so we didn't have the uh, we didn't have

12:03

the ap vote back then, or how did they cry him back in?

12:07

I don't remember. I don't remember nineteen forty eight here, so they have

12:09

twelve claimed titles oh one, O two, oh three, oh four,

12:13

eighteen, twenty three, thirty two, thirty three, forty seven, forty

12:16

eight, and then ninety seven was the Lloyd Carr And where they shared it,

12:20

and then obviously twenty twenty three. So that's my point about you know,

12:24

Michigan's been this. It is a historic program, obviously, but it's

12:28

not like they were just lighting it up with Natty's the whole time. And

12:31

that's where Harbor he not only did his job, he did his job above

12:35

and beyond. He did an unbelievable job the last three years, as good

12:39

around as you can have if you're not Alabama or Georgia. And he built it back up there it used to be. I mean, he's a master.

12:45

He went ahead of what he used to. I mean he's a master

12:48

motivator, which is why he's always had success essentially no matter where he's been.

12:52

Now he gets to the to the zenith, I guess, and now

12:54

he gets to walk away. And now it's where I'm so curious to see

12:58

what the team looks like next year. And we're going to have a long

13:01

time to talk about that too. And hasn't Ohio State. I mean a

13:05

lot of those guys came back, right, Yeah, it seems like their

13:09

anil program is strong. Bern Yeah, I mean that when you can get

13:13

the best safety in college football from Alabama, you can get Alabama's five star

13:16

quarterback commit to transfer to you. But we haven't even talked about the Ohio

13:20

State. We'll get to that on this one. Who they hired as their

13:24

offensive coordinator? Yeah, but other than Harrison, didn't they have some key

13:26

guys come back to think a Mecca Buka is coming back. I think he's

13:30

announced. Yeah, yeah, so I mean it's and I think a defensive

13:35

key defensive guy. Yeah, I mean there, Ohio State is to me,

13:39

probably in the same tier as Oregon next year. Okay, it all

13:43

depends. Is We're going to talk about a lot this offseason. Look across

13:46

the Big Ten and how many brand new starting quarterbacks are going to be We

13:50

got to be like fifteen of the teams. Yeah, I mean, because

13:54

so many teams fifteen of the Big Ten teams, I know them welcome to

13:58

twenty twenty four. Yeah, we talked about, you know, just size

14:05

wise, it's changing, but these teams are going to change too, with new coaches and new quarterbacks, and you don't really know. We'll think about

14:11

all the every year with the portal guys going to the NFL and all that,

14:13

but Michigan's gonna have brand new and Ohio State, Oregon, Washington,

14:18

USC, UCLA, Wisconsin, I guess technically Iowa, yeah, Minnesota,

14:26

so it works. But I mean, Jim Harbaugh was like the crazy uncle

14:28

the Big Ten to an extent with how outrageous some of the things and just

14:33

strange things he would do. But there's no doubting about how he built that

14:37

program into what it was and now it's going to be if it's not. Searon Moore, I will remind everybody now that Harbor has left, any Michigan

14:45

player can leave for the next thirty days right without repercussion burns. And I've

14:50

read some things Michigan's always going to be, you know, up there recruiting,

14:56

but they're not recruiting at the Georgia Alabama level, right, I mean,

14:58

they're built more on they'll sign top ten, top fifteen classes. But

15:03

that's also where whereas the large majority of four and five stars in the United

15:07

States, it's in the Southeast, and so it's a lot easier to recruit

15:11

within three hundred miles of you. But Michigan is still recruiting really well.

15:15

And that's where I'm not saying there. But they're not class They're not challenging

15:18

Alabama or Georgia for no. But they're signing top ten, top fifteen classes.

15:22

But I think where you look at how did Michigan get to this point

15:26

is they just built themselves into the best front in college football with Joe more

15:31

Award winning offensive lines in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, I think

15:35

it was, or was it twenty two to twenty three, either way, back to back years. And then you saw in the national title game.

15:39

I mean, Caleb de Bores says, I'm going to get out of the

15:41

Big Ten now after I watched that Michigan front do what they did to that.

15:46

What was the Joe Moore Award winning offensive line at the time, and

15:50

that Michigan front just took it to them. So that's where it starts for

15:54

me, is what am I going to remember about the Harbaugh era? Yeah, McCarthy, yeah, Blake Orum, but what he did up front,

16:00

they ran the ball. They I mean they that was like Pj's dream exactly.

16:07

They all loved it. Yeah, physical, run the ball, methodical

16:12

at that absolutely loved it. I mean any of them, I explained when

16:17

they were when they were playing here, is like that team just squeezes the

16:22

life out of you because they're so physical and the way they do it,

16:25

they run the ball, they it's like they have a That's the thing about

16:29

Harvall. He had a formula and he got the right players to do it.

16:33

Now, I'm sure there are a lot of five stars, but there are probably something that just fit what he wanted to do, no doubt.

16:37

And when you know the plays, it makes it a lot easier to really

16:41

take the guy where you want to go. I did remember talking to Dan

16:44

Dierdorf. They're all their legend. You know who did Monday Night Football was

16:47

their radio guy into the last couple of years, one of them, and the first year the the shifting motion drew all the Tarski Saturday night the first

16:57

year and I remember asking, do you okay, what's different about this team

17:03

already that you can tell? And that's exactly what he said. The physicality,

17:06

he said, the physicality, just the way that they want to do

17:08

stuff they're obviously not where we want them to be or whatever. And they

17:11

probably won eight games that year and nine. That's the other thing. That's

17:15

the other funny thing about Harbas. I thought it was It's funny that I'm

17:18

so bitter and bored with the whole thing now because you well, a couple

17:22

of years ago, I thought it was ridiculous that he had his contracts slash.

17:25

Yeah, and so in a way, if I'm him, I'm looking at it and going, oh, you want okay, well I'm gonna get

17:30

fired anyway. I'll just cheat my ass off because you guys, even though

17:33

I've won eight, nine, ten, ten, ten, ten, ten games, i can't beat Ohio State. I'm going to New Year's Day bulls

17:37

whatever, which again go through the history of Michigan. It's not like they're

17:41

just lighting it up with banners. They win a ton of games, but and they're historic, but it's not like it's their birthright to just dominate everybody,

17:48

including Ohio State. And I thought it was preposterous when they cut a

17:52

salary like they did. And so it's funny how I've turned though. It's

17:57

funny how you definitely tarn well, have you seen what Connor's I thought,

18:02

after this whole thing, Connor stallions maybe in the last few weeks would start

18:04

to fade in the background. Have you seen where he is? Now?

18:07

Where Chip? I'm gonna ask you something. Do you know what cameo is?

18:14

Cameo? Is that the thing where you do a video for someone.

18:17

Good job, good job, I'm proud of you. He's doing cameos.

18:22

He's now on cameo, so instead of him fading into the background, you

18:26

can get cons exactly why I feel no pain, I hear you. I

18:30

mean, I really don't, and I wish I wish I was. I

18:32

think Joe Matturre's on the committee for infraction. Still I would call Joel and

18:34

say, Joel hammerm hammerm stand up. I don't know if he is.

18:38

He used to be, so he does that now in his retirement. But

18:41

man, you know who the other person is who is the happiest to see

18:45

Jim Harbaugh leave the Big TENE day? Correct? Yeah? Again for what

18:49

they've added through the portal, and we'll see how that team looks in August.

18:52

Like any other college football team at this point, but they looked prime

18:56

to be what Michigan potentially was this year for them. I would you know,

19:02

we'll see what how everything shakes up, but they're going to be one

19:04

of the top two teams. I would think. Charon Moore on television after

19:08

Penn State, love the bleep out of you, man. This is for

19:11

you, for this university. The president ra ad we got the best players,

19:15

best university, best alumni in the country. Love you guys. Gradually

19:18

diagnosis of cheating for him. Congratulations on the on the gig Coach More,

19:22

I hope you lose every single game the rest of your life. Jim Harbaugh

19:26

begins or is the fifth head coach to leave immediately after a national championship,

19:33

first in the Apopole era since nineteen thirty six. This is just kind of

19:36

interesting. And then we'll get out of here. Twenty twenty three. Harbaugh goes to the Chargers, Tom Osborne ninety seven, he retires, Howard Schnellenberger

19:44

nineteen eighty three, wins with Miami. Goes to the USFL Johnny Majors in

19:48

seventy six, wins it at Pittsburgh, goes to Tennessee. Did he win

19:52

any there? Yeah, so put your arm down. And nineteen forty one

19:56

Bernie Beerman at the University of Minnies Where did Bernie Berman go? What job

20:03

was better for Bernie Berman. I'm gonna give you the year again, nineteen

20:07

forty one that Bernie Bierman after winning the national championship left. I'd love to

20:11

get I need to do some more digging into that play. It's fascinating.

20:15

Wow, forty one, I don't even have it. Where did he look

20:23

at old think of old schedules? Oklahoma, Oklahoma? No, where Pitt

20:27

didn't go to Pitt. He became the coach of the Iowa pre Flight Seahawks.

20:33

Who are the Iowa pre Flight Seahawks? You ask? They're the US

20:37

Navy pre flight school at the University of Iowa. They only participated in forty

20:41

two, forty three, forty four. What was going on in those years

20:45

only world wars and only world wars. So the Navy commissioned pre flight schools

20:49

at Georgia, Iowa, North Carolina, Saint Mary's in California in nineteen forty

20:53

two. Cadets were given three months of rigorous physical training and instruction in basic

20:57

aerial navigation and communications. Then graduates were sent to basic flight schools in advanced

21:02

flight training before Pacific Our assignment to the Pacific Fleet. Athletics and training are

21:07

emphsides the schools that has believed that the riggers of college football were ideal preparation

21:11

for World War Two. Numerous collegiate and professional athletes and coaches were recruited as

21:15

instructors. They often played on or coached the football team at their respective school.

21:19

Each team usually played established football powers in their respective region and other service

21:25

academies. Bernie Beerman had IOWA pre Flight nineteen forty two and went seven and

21:30

three. Wow, there's a history lesson, So was there? Pete Carroll

21:37

USC, so there must have been. They must have had a after his

21:41

diacety you have a year two and then he went or they must Yeah, it must have been. I was thinking he I think he. I was

21:45

thinking he won one and then left. So, Chip, I'm gonna ask

21:48

you this question now, now that Harbaugh has left, who were the top

21:51

three tenured Big Ten football coaches? Well, Kirk, he's number one,

21:56

James Franklin and PG. His mind is clear done. Didn't even have to

22:04

think about it. That's why college their That's why you should have been at

22:10

the quick laying Bowler loves college football like you don't. That hilarious. So

22:12

I saw you tweet that burns and it just shows you how fast. I

22:15

think Mark Coyle is like second longest tendard ad or something now that your guy

22:19

Geene Smith is out, I mean something like that. Well you think about

22:22

a d and coach now that Oh yeah, you know gets they is Sandy

22:32

Barber still the ad it? I don't know. I think she hired.

22:34

I think she is correct. I think she is. Somebody will tweet us

22:38

the Penn State nit New Lion fan out there, We'll tweet us and let

22:42

us know how weird is it? The flex the third longest ten yured Big

22:45

ten coach going into year eight. It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy. What

22:52

else? Okay? So we mentioned hard about anything else you guys want to say about that? I think we've I think I did. Yeah, hopefully

22:59

the audio regulated there. When I screamed, I mean it'll be forever for

23:02

me. I mean, I'm at the age now where I'm holding grudges forever.

23:04

I'm so grumpy, I can't stop it. Yeah, you're not with

23:10

Iowa fans clearly with the fair catch signal. No, that's stupid. I'm

23:14

not going to take that bait. I like people still tell you to let it go. But then like, did you see that so the Gopher?

23:18

Yes, I saw the gymnastics, Yeah, yes, And of course I

23:22

saw the gymnastics. Yes, And I saw Lisa Blueter complain that Caitlyn Clark

23:27

had some mean things yelled at her. Apparently. Now again, do I

23:30

want anyone running over Caitlin Clark as they're storming the court at in Columbus?

23:36

No, no, we all agree on that, correct. The most important thing is to get players out safely. Am I concerned at all as someone

23:42

who has spent five ish six games on the Kinnick Stadium visitors sidelines? What

23:48

any fan says to any player that's not like racially motivated? No, I'm

23:52

not, Lisa. And if you'd like to be my guest the next time

23:56

the Minnesota Golden Golphers come down to Kinnick, and if you'd like to walk

24:00

with me on the sidelines to hear what your beloved fans, some of whom

24:04

are my family members. By the way, I think that's why this bothers

24:07

me personal. Yeah, come on, uncle Rich, come on, Uncle

24:12

Terry, come on at Carol, if you'd like to be my guest to

24:18

hear things that are yelled at these kids adults, PJ be my I'd love

24:26

for you to hear it. We can certainly make that happen. Be careful,

24:29

though, you might get bush life thrown at you if a call goes

24:33

the wrong way. So I still can't believe that. If you don't want

24:36

to come out of the luxury suite or you know, back into the tunnel

24:40

after you know one of your teams is being honored, come on down.

24:42

If that's now you got me going. That bothered me because no one wants

24:47

Caitlin Clark or any player to get run over. But are we really going? And man, the fans were really mean too. I wish you could

24:52

hear what they were saying. Come on down any Saturday in September, October

24:56

or November and hear what you know here with the people from Cedar Falls and

25:00

Waverley and Dubuque and Sioux City and everywhere and Anchory, hear what they're yelling

25:06

at these college athletes. Good God, give me a break. Speaking of break, good time to take one. You know, where is a good

25:11

place to calm down if you're a little heated, if you need to blow

25:14

out some steam, if you just need a great meal and a great ambiance

25:18

and a great vibe. Jack's Cafe in Minneapolis, It's only been around for

25:21

ninety years. You can't fake that kind of longevity. And we are thrilled

25:23

that Jacks Cafes continuing their partnership in the offseason with us. Had a great

25:27

time with Chip for the Chip Lame Bowl. You had a great opportunity to

25:30

hang there. We've got some plans to get to Jack's Cafe in the next

25:33

couple of weeks, especially once basketball stops for me, but Jaxcafe dot com

25:37

to make your reservations for whether it's brunch, whether it's dinner, or if

25:41

you just want to go there for happy hour. You can't go wrong with

25:44

the food, you can't go wrong with the vibe. You can't go wrong

25:47

with anything at Jack's Cafe. Yeah, and Burnsy, I feel like this

25:49

is the blood pressure episode guards these blood pressure right now. I wouldn't want

25:56

to take the reading on it. We need to take him to Jacks.

26:00

Have a nice come. We'll go to the bar, have these beautiful craft

26:03

cocktails. I need to sit next to the piano and just let somebody or

26:07

wait till the spring when the patio's open. Yeah. I need to hear

26:11

the water. I need the babbling brook and I need the trout. I

26:15

need to sit at that table in the back corner and look at the watak.

26:19

Yeah that does sound good. Chip will order your himself a big thing

26:22

at crem berlet Ye. Yes, but that's what Jack's Cafe is about.

26:26

We won't talk about Michigan, we won't talk about Iowa. What will we

26:29

talk about? Be careful scallops. We'll talk about scallops. We'll talk about

26:33

the salads, we'll talk about the brunch. We'll talk about your kids.

26:37

Will that raise the bloet pressure? It depends on the day. I mean

26:40

it really depends. Are they there, if they're with me? Yes, But that's why I can't say, Uh, if you have kids and you

26:45

want to bring them checking out the trousers to kill five minutes before the love

26:51

it, before the food comes. Have kids? So what do you have

26:55

kids or not? You are having a good day like these two. If you're having a bad day like me, Jack's Cafe is there for everybody.

27:00

Jaxcafe dot com for reservations learn a little bit more. Thanks everybody that has

27:06

gone over to Jack's Cafe and told us that you have I know Bill appreciates

27:08

as well. It's just a wonderful place and we're glad to be partnering with

27:11

them once again on the parentis Bear podcast, Jackscafe dot Com. Well,

27:18

with Chip's heart out, we haven't left a ton of time for I'm sorry.

27:22

The greatest of all time, Nick Saban. What a run. A

27:26

run, an unbelievable run and not all that surprising when you factor in on

27:32

the basketball side of things. Mike Krzyzewski no longer coaches. Roy Williams no

27:37

longer coaches. Going down the list, Jay Wright no longer coaches. These

27:41

coaches that have been around for seventy two years, that have had things a

27:45

certain way, that had a lot of advantages, are saying, you know

27:48

what, I think it's time that I enjoy the fruits of my labor and

27:52

retirement and my family and I don't need to worry about nil, I don't

27:55

need to worry about transfer portal, I don't need to worry about any of that. I'm going out somewhat on top. And Saban, what a game

28:00

against Michigan. We talked about it. What a performance, But I'm bummed.

28:06

I'm bummed because I loved I'm not one that hated Alabama or hated Nick

28:10

Saban. I'm most fascinated by the whole thing. To be that good that

28:12

long and really never have any slippach is incredible. Well that's the thing I

28:17

mean for me, Tennessee fan, third oh watch is going off. Siria

28:21

doesn't love it. Yeah, third Saturday of October. Never could beat him.

28:26

Everything about his program was excellence. And that's what made excuse me when

28:33

we finally did beat them last season. Yep, Like you beat a Nick

28:37

Sabent team, right, Like that's all you need to say. Yeah,

28:40

And he adapted as he h He never he never allowed And this is the

28:48

hard part, and you always hear it is cliche, is like it's one

28:51

thing to win a championship, it's another one to stay there. Sure not

28:53

only did he stay there, he stayed there. And there was never an

28:59

ounce of relax in that program. Complacency, complacency. He always was pushing

29:07

to stay relevant. Uh. Recruiting was the lifeblood. Everything about his program

29:17

was a model for everybody in that sport. He would, you know,

29:21

think about all the best punches that they got from teams every week, every

29:25

single week you had the target on on. Yeah, we're going to give

29:29

your best punch every time you played him. And it didn't matter because one,

29:34

he recruited better than everyone else until Georgia started doing it, and even

29:38

still they were recruiting top ten classes. But you look at just how he

29:41

changed the game, recruiting, hiring all the analysts that now every scene does.

29:48

I'm sure facilities, I'm sure there's probably so many tentacles that everybody looked

29:55

at him and said we have to do that too. So you know,

29:57

it's became kind of the things that guys to go with. That guy's got,

30:00

he's the great, he's to go the goat twenty eight years as a

30:03

college head coach, seven national titles, six at Alabama, one at LSU,

30:07

twelve conference championships, eleven in the SEC, one in the MAC,

30:11

never had a losing season. His worst seasons were ninety six and ninety eight

30:15

at Michigan State. You go all the way back there. We all know

30:18

about the Dolphins. Bit didn't love Drew Brees. He might be still coaching

30:22

in the NFL if he had, Drew Brees didn't want to pick him up.

30:26

Two hundred ninety two seventy one and one as a college coach, ranking

30:30

him sixth all time in the FBS and wins twelfth in NCAA college football history

30:33

regardless of division. He led Toledo to a MAC championship in nineteen ninety,

30:38

his loan season as the program's coach. There. I just what I liked

30:45

about it is he would complain about things that he didn't like in college football,

30:49

like is this the direction that we're going? And somebody phrased it this

30:52

way. This was a while ago. It wasn't that he was complaining because

30:57

he felt I'm trying to think the best way to say this. He would

31:00

complain about stuff he didn't like, but it was almost like a warning,

31:03

like this morning, if this is the way you guys all want to go,

31:06

we can do it. I'm still going to be better at it than everybody else. But you know, whether it's yeah, the up tempo offense,

31:11

yeah, he hated it. He goes, I think it's tricking people.

31:14

You're getting people up here, you get numbers, you're not huddling,

31:17

you're not allowing people to get set. But then what did you do? He hired Lane Kiffin and switched everything and started to do more spread stuff,

31:22

won a couple more national championships. The recruiting part of it, like,

31:25

is this really where we want to go? Okay, I'm still gonna be

31:27

great at that. Like you tell me what the rules are, I'm going

31:30

to dominate within those rules and that framework. We just got to decide as

31:33

a sport what we want to be. I just loved that. You know.

31:37

The thing it just amazed me too, is like every year there'd be

31:41

five to eight first round picks off his team and then the next year,

31:45

yeah, just with new coordinators because they'd usually get such jobs. Right.

31:51

Well, that's one of my favorite Nick Kate Nick Saban facts. He has

31:55

more first round picks than losses at Alabama. Think about that, Yeah a

32:00

lot. Or he has more than a billion that is b billion dollars in

32:05

contracts from his players in the NFL from Alabama. More first round picks than

32:09

losses at Alabama. That no other coach can say that at whatever institution they're

32:15

at. That's insane. But that's the run he had and the coaches,

32:20

as we mentioned. I mean if you they reclamation project they called Yeah,

32:22

they called the analyst role basically like career career rehabilitation where you could go if

32:28

you were fired something. Bill O'Brien, Steve Sarkisian was there. Yeah,

32:35

because Sarkisian jumped in as the OC was Kiffen went got fired during the playoff

32:38

run, right, I mean, yeah, God, Mario, Cristobal,

32:43

Dan Lanning, Mike Loxley. Think about how many of those names were mentioning

32:45

now are at so many the top fifteen jobs in this sport. Yeah,

32:50

his coaching tree is crazy, It's huge, It's unbelievable. And then of

32:55

all the people they hire, it's the guy who got passed to for the

33:00

North Dakota job about ten years ago. Yeah, Bubba Schweiger got it.

33:04

Which it's interesting. He's like, college sports are weird? Man, How

33:08

do you follow Nick Saban? You know, you better be comfortable in your

33:10

own skin because you know you're never going to measure up. And I'm sure

33:16

there's you know, there's a huge letdown. Yep, no matter who you

33:21

hired, there's gonna be a huge letdown because it's not Nick Saban. So Kaelin de bor. I wish it. I wish him luck, you know,

33:25

I hope he does well. But man, that's a well in a

33:30

very fast rise for young Kaalen. Know, as you mentioned ten years ago,

33:34

he's not getting the North Dakota job. He spent some time at Sioux

33:37

Falls, won some titles. I do like the fact. What I like about him as a Midwesterner is he's already done like four interviews with like his

33:44

hometown paper in South Dakota. I think he did one in Fargo. Like he a friend of mine that knew him from his time in Fresno because he

33:52

was Fresno OC for a while when he came here, right right, Yes, at least the first yeah, the first year. Yeah. I don't

33:58

know if he was there the second ye or not. He might have been an indie. But you can't argue with kind of his quick rises, fast

34:04

rise and the stuff that they're doing offensively. And I want to talk about

34:07

making a guy money, I mean he made he made the Indiana coach what's

34:09

his name, the guy that just got fired Tom Allen, Tom Allen now

34:14

offensive coordinator. Yeah, so he made Tom Allen a lot of money because

34:17

of the work you did with Michael Pennix. Sure, and now you've made

34:20

Michael Pennox a lot of money because he's probably going to be a first or second round pick and really only had success with you, which is interesting.

34:27

Well, he's the offensive coordinator that year at Indiana. Yes, the defensive

34:31

coordinator. Kean Womack is now was the South Alabama coach. He's now at

34:36

Alabama. Think about that twenty twenty Indiana team. There's the reason why they

34:39

won those games. Yeah, Oh my goodness. Yeah, I'm curious to

34:44

see what recruiting does they do. They remain one two with Georgia. I

34:50

mean, they'll probably be a dip, but I even think of I'm just

34:52

fascinated by his staff more than anything. So they Yeah, So Alabama tries

34:55

to hire Ryan Grubb last year their offensive coordinator. Doesn't get him. Now

35:00

he's there, he was at Washington. Moe Linquist, former Minnesota dB coach,

35:05

was the coach of Buffalo for the last three years. They hire him as a position coach. Right. They hires Caane Wllmack from South Alabama.

35:13

He I mean, you're hiring group of five head coaches who are making six

35:16

figures. I mean, it's not a ton of money, but it's good

35:19

money to come be on the Alabama staff. Like, think about that looks

35:22

good on the resume, Yeah, fascinate if you don't love the situation you're

35:25

in. And Moe's had some problems in Buffalo, yeah recently, so yeah,

35:29

that han't a lot of sense. So he got out ahead of that to kind of reset a little bit. If you can get a job at

35:32

Alabama with a really hot coach, you do it. Well. That's why

35:36

I feel for I mean to an extent, I don't know what Kaitlin's making

35:39

there. I don't know if I've seen the contract come out. I'm sure

35:43

he's well compensated. But what happens if Alabama just goes eight and four instead

35:45

of ten and two and eleven and one every single year? I mean,

35:50

because they can do that next year, they can do that next year,

35:53

five two years, they'll get wrestled. I mean, that's a prize.

35:57

That's a proud UH fan base. But it's like there's you're I don't say,

36:05

no whim, but how do you follow that and think that you're going

36:07

to keep up the same standard of excellence that he Yet, Well, if

36:13

you don't I'm sure de Bor's got into his contract. He's going to get a very nice payday that he probably doesn't have to coach for quite some time

36:19

if he gets fired after just a few years. But I mean, Alabama

36:22

has seen their roster get depleted, but they're Alabama, and then they're they're

36:27

going to be just fine. It's just going to be fascinating to see with

36:30

so much, so many of these coaches moving around. Even think about the college football payoff. We talked about it before the show. Look at the

36:36

four coaches who were in that Saban's now gone, Debor replaces him, Harbaugh's

36:39

now gone, Like the only person left is Sarkisian. So I mean,

36:45

you're starting to, in theory, get a little bit more parody throughout this

36:49

sport. And now I'll see if that actually comes to fruition. But I

36:52

just I continue to think about how many of these coaches moving around, how

36:58

many of these quarterbacks moving around. In theory, yeah, they're the two most important people on a team more or less, and there's so many moving

37:04

around. In theory, hopefully you get a little bit more parody. And

37:07

the new Washington coach is a former Gopher offensive coordinator, Chips Guy Jed Jed

37:13

Fish. Were you on the beat when he was there? Had you already

37:15

moved on? What was the years? I don't remember. I think it

37:19

was a year. It was one of the well then he's bounced around.

37:22

I don't know because I was my last year, was Brewster's first year,

37:27

and Mike Dunbar was never the spread Yes, I do Dunbar. Mike Dunbar,

37:31

it sounds right, was the coordinator, you know. I think Fish

37:36

replaced Dunbar the next year. I think Dunbar might have just been one year guy coordinator in two thousand and nine. Who was fi Oh yeah, because

37:44

so Dunbar might have been two years? Okay, it was I mean teen

37:47

years later he's we talked about how many jobs I'm gonna get. I'm going

37:52

to get to that because that was the funniest part is he was a guy

37:54

that everybody seemed to really respect in the industry and say, this guy's a

37:59

genius. But he wouldn't stay anywhere longer than five minutes. He has started

38:01

to slow down a little bit the last few years, but even what he

38:06

just did just a couple of seasons at Washington and now or Arizona. So

38:09

he started. Let's just go where did he come from? Before you get

38:14

here, he was from Denver, Broncos wide receiver coach. Just for a

38:17

year before that, he was an offensive assistant with the Ravens. I'll just

38:22

run through his whole thing. Ninety seven he was the defensive coordinator at P.

38:25

K. Young Developmental Research School in Florida. I'm assuming that I'm not

38:30

I'm reading I mean Wikipedia. I mean we've already talked about the Iowa pre

38:34

Yeah, yeah, something or another. I bro with that, but you

38:38

hear this high school was ninety ninety eight, he was the new Jersey Red

38:44

Dogs receiver and quality control coach. Ninety nine. Two thousand, he was

38:47

a GA at Florida, So that's where he hooked up with Spurrier. Spurrier

38:52

was a big part of this, sir the Texans. In two three he

38:57

was defensive quality control Florida. He was the Baltimore Ravens offensive assistant and then

39:02

eighty was the wide receivers coach for the Broncos. Two thousand and nine Minnesota

39:07

offensive coordinator. Where hooked up at that and Weber who actually joined him a couple of different places we'll talk about that. Weber totaled it up, right,

39:13

four offensive coordinators in like eleven position coaches in his five years. It

39:16

was absurd. Yep, one of the most. I wonder if you could

39:19

even name him. Yeah, and he's still through for ten thousand yards.

39:22

It kind of shows you how good Weber was. Year here as OC quarterbacks

39:27

coach in Seattle, the Seahawks, Miami Florida offensive coordinator, quarterbacks coach two

39:31

years eleven to twelve, Jacksonville Jaguars offensive coordinator, thirteen and fourteen Michigan quarterbacks

39:37

receivers and pass game coordinator PGC. I'm gonna go with fifteen sixteen UCLA offensive

39:45

coordinator, quarterbacks coach in twenty seventeen, Weber was Weber. Yeah, because

39:50

Weber the years before was here helping Tracy and Jerry did that for a couple

39:55

of years. And yeah, the Holiday Bowl was his last game. We

39:59

hung out with him. Have to remember that. Oh yeah, Leidner Island. Yeah, give it hugs to Leidner's parents, Thanks for everything. Then

40:05

he went to UCLA. Imagine being Adam Webber by the way, as like

40:08

a GA or low level assistant in Westwood, like he lived in a closet.

40:15

Essentially, you can't do it. Eighteen Los Angeles Rams senior offensive assistant

40:22

assistant offensive coordinator in nineteen with the Rams, So he must have been with

40:25

me. It's McVeigh, yeah. Twenty twenty, he's the new England Patriots

40:30

quarterbacks coach. Twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three, he's the head coach

40:34

of Arizona. They had a good year this year, they've been good.

40:37

His overall head coaching record is seventeen and twenty two, and he's a new

40:40

head coach at a great program, the University of Washington Huskies. The Jetfish

40:45

story forty seven years old. Good question, he is boy, that's a

40:52

run, right, That's a lot of moving around. He worked on Brian

40:54

Phillick would not be retained under Harbaugh. He worked under Mike Shanahan. He

41:00

worked under Pete Carroll, He worked under Gus Bradley, Stand up North Dakota,

41:07

see who else? And obviously Bill Belichick College game. Al Golden was

41:10

a Miami coach. Trying to think who was so he was hired by let

41:16

me think here. He worked with Harbaugh his first year at Michigan and then

41:22

Jim Mora hired him at UCLA, So there you go. Now he's a

41:25

big ten coach. Jed Fish, there's your Media Day column next year.

41:29

What did you think of your year? Here? Tell us about Adam Weber.

41:32

We'll have enough time there wherever this is. Yeah, I'm hoping it's

41:36

in Los Angeles one of these years. Lastly we got like four or five

41:38

minutes. We all have things to plug, believe it or not. We

41:42

all have other projects that we work on when we know you do, because

41:45

you've you've showed your priority for par and a spare. No, you got

41:51

another one football? Really, Yeah, you're you're essentially the Duluth News Tribune

41:54

bureau chief. Now up in Esco, Minnesota, you spent some time with

42:00

Coy Parritch, the maybe the most important player from what we know about him,

42:04

and keeping him and Ryan Day and the private plane to Duluth, you

42:07

know, maybe the most important player since Bobby Bell. That's how you guys

42:09

are building it up for the University of Minnesota. Yes, I went up

42:13

there two days back to back, went to his basketball practice and went over

42:17

to his house and hung out with him and his mom and dad, and

42:20

then went back the next day to watch him play Cherry which Isaac Osama go

42:23

for SI, which is fun. It is a great atmosphere. I bet

42:27

standing room only crowd. They had turned people away. There's so many people

42:30

and Chips could get a seat. Sportswriter that's what he's got it on his

42:37

own little lanyard. That's what he's wearing right now. I will say burns.

42:44

He has been talking about his athleticism all throughout recruiting and to see it

42:47

in person, Uh, he is freakingly athletic. The way he can't explode

42:54

off the floor, the way he moves, the way he runs. He's

42:58

he's built too, uh, stocky, very strong. You can tell.

43:01

His dad is the fai ed teacher at the high school there middle school and

43:06

also he runs their strength program. Yeah, and so they got him involved

43:08

in weight training. It when he was in seventh grade. And he looks

43:12

like he lives in the weight room. He's a strong kid, very confident,

43:15

very competitive. That families families they basically do like holiday bench president contests

43:21

and wrestling and mom usually comes out on top. It sounds yeah, the

43:23

grandpa was a strength bodybuilder. He's seventy one, four hundred and five pounds

43:30

seventy one and he's benched four plates. So he last year that that's that

43:35

he won three eighty five. He said he's trying to get back. He just turned seventy three. But mom was a great athlete. His aunt Gina

43:42

was won the state track title for ESCO as by herself. So just the

43:45

athletic family very competitive. His brother Mason, who's the receiver down at me

43:51

Kyo State, he's a very very confident athlete. You know. I asked

43:58

him. I was like, you know, you went that that's the All

44:00

American Game and from Northern Minnesota. Was there any kind of were you kind

44:04

of curious to see how you would stack up against, you know, the

44:06

best players in the country. He's like, He's like, no, I don't want to sound egotistical, but I think I'm one of the best athletes

44:10

in the country. And it wasn't like, yeah, as very very confident,

44:15

like facts or facts. I mean, if you followed the story Chip,

44:19

yeah, he said. So he wants to make an impact. You

44:22

know, I'm I said it from day one. I would love to see

44:28

that kid return punts and kicks because he has that kind of explosiveness that's the

44:31

one word I kept coming back to what I saw him. He's like,

44:34

he's an explosive athlete. Yeah, I wanted to be in basketball. You

44:37

see it in track. Yeah. Our final rankings came out and he's now

44:42

a ninety six on our scale and he's top seventy five player in the country.

44:45

So he jumps Carter Coughlin. So he's now number two all time behind

44:49

Chip's favorite former city running back Jeff Jones. Yeah. So, I mean

44:53

he's got a ton of prospect pedigree, and that's where it's gonna be.

44:58

How quickly can he adjust. I mean, we've seen him down in San

45:00

Antonio that week. Sounds like from the people I talk to, he struggled

45:04

to start, but as the week kept going on, he got better and

45:07

better and then when the lights came on, Yeah, he's one of the

45:10

best out there. So I think I like it. But he said,

45:15

you got to make a play. I was like, you're not really like scared to make a mistake. He's like, no, no, you just

45:19

go make a play. So I think he has that confidence, like he's

45:22

got that instinct that it's hard to teach. I says it ever, like you know, bitching the button. He's like, yeah, you know,

45:25

and this is kind of his personality. Said, yep, sophomore year playoffs

45:29

have fumbled. That's right, We're going in and fumbled. He's like, never fumbled again. Yeah, So it's like balls a program. There's something

45:36

about him that just natural competitiveness and confidence that I think teammates will gravitate to

45:44

him. Right. I definitely read the story because it's funny to hear about.

45:46

I mean, they sound like you mentioned other Way characters. Yeah,

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well, it sounds like the Seinfeld Mandelbomb family where they had the three generations

45:53

of Yeah, you think you're better than me, and then then you know,

45:55

try to lift stuff and all that you think you're the number one dad,

46:00

like brilliant. Yeah, you spoke with Dickey Town Athletes co founder Derek

46:05

Burns forty five minute conversation on the Red Parts. This is going to take

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me two weeks of putting my kids to bed to listen to this. Go

46:13

for Great Iron podcasts, well, sign a podcast. It's all it's all over in written form, So we got I talked to him from so I

46:19

got to read it. You do have to read it. Shoot, well,

46:21

after Chip's story I'm kind of my brain's kind of well, take a little bit of a break. It's not going anywhere believable. Yeah. I

46:25

talked to Derek for forty five minutes about and I get a ton of questions.

46:30

I know he gets a ton of questions. So it's trying to answer these common questions that everybody gets about w Iron Fortune five hundred's helpening. Where

46:37

do they stack up in comparison to the rest of the Big Ten. And

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that's where I thought Derek was very candid in terms of it's tough to get

46:44

data on all these different collectives because it's all private and yep, that's another

46:47

thing he touches on is why don't anybody make it public information? When he

46:52

touches on that, but he gives very candid thoughts on where he believes they

46:57

are in comparison to Iowa. I'll tell you a little this. They know

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they're behind i was collective. But it talks about Wisconsin, the rest of

47:04

the Big ten, how fans can help. But I think it's important where

47:08

I thought it was important to talk to him because there's just so many things

47:12

that it's always so hush hush, right with Nil, No one knows where

47:15

their dollar is going hypothetically, or how is Minnesota doing? What does success

47:20

look like when you don't have any of this data going public? I should

47:23

say, And that's where he was really good in trying to answer as many

47:29

things as he could. And I don't know that as many people who are

47:31

in charge of a collective would be as candidate as he was. So yeah,

47:36

go for Illustrated dot com for that, Go for illustrated dot com, Gopher Illustrated dot com for that, Start tribute dot com for chips stuff and

47:43

real quick wherever you get your favorite podcast, The Golden Gopher podcast. I

47:45

talked with Max Brozmer New QB one for about thirty minutes. Great interview.

47:50

It was good. Yeah, he's great, I heard. I've heard a

47:52

lot of good things about it. What was the takeaway from you? Maturity?

47:57

Yes, I mean you can see why PJ likes him. Yeah,

48:00

and he's a graduate student, so he's which means you essentially watch film all

48:04

day. I'll go yeah, go ahead. I mean, as he kind

48:08

of conveyed on podcasts and we're talking about right now, since he's been on

48:13

campus here these few weeks, he has from what I've been told lived in

48:16

the film room. Yeah, been with the receivers, been with like It's

48:20

been a lot different around there with him really taking charge of that team.

48:24

Right, The most interesting thing or the thing I followed up on because you

48:28

had done a Q and A with him that I pilfered from, essentially to

48:30

get me some directions. That's what we're trying to help each other at different

48:35

times. We're all the spare some of us were the pair were hashtag family.

48:38

And he said that when he got hurt because he tore his ACL one

48:43

of the years in New Hampshire, he said one of the things he did

48:45

to stay involved was he's just started in camp meeting with all the different position

48:50

groups, and he said that was the best decision I've ever made in my life because I then I learned everything that I needed to know, just about

48:57

what the line's doing, what my tight ends are doing, what my running

48:59

backs are doing. So I thought that was interesting. I hadn't heard that

49:02

much before. I mean, you've heard it from time to time of these

49:05

guys watch film together, they throw together. But I just thought, like,

49:08

I thought that was pretty interesting, so I would encourage people to listen

49:12

to it. It was about thirty minutes and I most of it was him,

49:14

So if you don't want to hear my voice, it was because he was talking the whole time, which was great. That was the whole point

49:17

of it. So, uh, Golden Gopher Podcast wherever you get your favorite

49:22

podcasts. All right, we're two minutes past. Chips hard out. He's

49:24

worried already. I can tell about getting back for his next engagement. Well,

49:28

he is the sports writer of the year. Sports writer of the year,

49:30

has things to do, and we're just happy that he fit in. You know, it's his fault. We're even here. None of us asked

49:35

to do the college football podcast. He wanted. This was his baby,

49:38

Yeah, and we're just raising his kids and now he's gone class absent and

49:44

me two single dads. Exactly right. It's like two three minutes Uncle that

49:49

comes in the podcasts and leaves. But here you and I are and we

49:52

have to play catch with Classic Chick. Yeah, coming to play catch with

49:57

me, we said he would. I know, honey, he's got another

50:00

project that he's working on. Go do your other podcast. We've got computer

50:02

training. You know, it's always something with Uncle Chip. But hopefully he'll

50:07

have time for you next week. Ship. What do I gotta do to be standing behind you for an hour and a half computer training? No,

50:13

you didn't stop it. Hold on the he nailed like all your quizzes today.

50:16

So it's a it's a new chip. You need to text your children

50:20

that you know what cameo is, because they're gonna text back Dad, how

50:22

do you know that? And who are you getting a cameo front? That's

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