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Jerry's percentages in about a half

0:35

an hour. Jerry was watching

0:37

us on the lead panel last night. I'm

0:39

sure you'd have access to that if you wanted to.

0:41

I guess Well, find out. We'll see what he's

0:43

up doing about a half an hour, and Mike Johnson

0:45

will join us here in a moment. Johnny was obviously in

0:47

Pittsburgh calling that game with Gord Miller last

0:50

night. and the leaf

0:52

got themselves a win. And I've went in five

0:54

two, John DeVar scoring his four hundredth

0:56

career goal. four

0:58

hundred snipes. That that's

1:01

impressive. A lot of goals, man. Yeah. It's a lot

1:03

of goals. A

1:04

lot of goals. Yep. And

1:06

that's a sign of just because we

1:11

and I

1:11

agree. We've talked about it at the start of the

1:13

year, like, what were we gonna get

1:15

out of them? I think maybe or maybe,

1:18

like, for me

1:19

personally, my

1:21

expectations were a little bit lower. And

1:24

he's blown through that. He's been

1:26

very consistent. He could argue he's been

1:28

the most

1:28

consistent forward

1:31

I thought Jamie, it might have been, like, a twenty

1:33

twenty situation. the first, what, six games.

1:35

That's right. because of the injury. Right?

1:37

Yep. I thought it was gonna be a

1:39

twenty twenty situation if he had a

1:41

good year. Like,

1:42

twenty goals, twenty assists, and it's

1:45

like, that's what he's gonna bring to the table.

1:47

And See

1:48

what it does for you, but he's been pretty good.

1:51

Yes, but I I think he has been the most consistent

1:53

forward. I he's got nine goals now in the

1:55

season and he's

1:57

on pace for, you know, a a thirty

2:00

five and eighty type

2:02

of season. That's a great season. Like, and to be fair

2:04

to him, that's what he has done as our career. Yeah.

2:06

Yes. And there's still a lot more runway here

2:08

for him to prove that he can stay on those numbers,

2:10

but I was

2:12

bracing for it. I I said multiple

2:15

times. I'm I'm expecting more of

2:17

like a twenty five and sixty five as

2:19

opposed to a thirty five and eighty.

2:22

But to his credit, even with missing

2:24

camp, he's had a he's had a great start.

2:26

Like, he's really been productive. He's got nine goals

2:28

already on the season. and that helps you

2:30

get the ball rolling. You guys talk about that all the

2:32

time. Get you get the ball

2:35

moving in the right direction early in the season.

2:37

you avoid a slump, you feel good all of a

2:39

sudden, you know, the the puck finds you. It just

2:41

seems to be a consistent theme throughout

2:43

the year. Mhmm. And he's

2:45

had a really really good start. He's only

2:47

thirty two. It's just like Eric Carlson. Like

2:50

Carlson's thirty two. It's

2:52

they've been in the limelight for

2:54

so long. nineteen years

2:56

old. Exactly. Like, Tavares

2:58

stepped in at at eighteen.

3:01

First, overall, tons of hype, exceptional

3:03

status. He was in He was in

3:05

people's living rooms on TV when he was

3:07

fifteen, you know, showing up

3:09

with the generals as a fifteen year old.

3:11

So it feels like it's even longer than

3:14

his NHL career because of what he did

3:16

at the world juniors and what he did in junior.

3:19

But he's only thirty two. But to have

3:21

four hundred goals, you know, we saw the stats last

3:23

night. in the last, you know, since

3:25

o nine ten, I believe it is. There's only two

3:27

guys who have scored more goals, and

3:29

that'sovic in in Stampkos,

3:31

I believe. That's That's

3:34

pretty

3:34

decent company.

3:35

You know? You're you're talking Oh,

3:37

that's good. When you think about it since o nine

3:39

ten, Oh, that's good's got five hundred

3:41

and nine goals. Stamp

3:44

goes four hundred and sixty five and John Tavares

3:46

at four hundred now. So those

3:48

are three first overall picks. That's what

3:50

you want. Right? Like, if you bought them out, and

3:53

and you have a first overall pick.

3:55

That's what you're hoping for. You you pick a

3:57

guy that turns into a

3:59

great player. and those are three examples.

4:01

player And it could have gone either way. It's not

4:03

like the guy behind me was a stiff either

4:05

headwind. It was either to ours or headwind

4:07

that year. Mhmm. And Whichever

4:09

one you got you were getting a player.

4:12

Well, Owlette's getting the second pick

4:14

in that draft was Melkin. So

4:17

that's pretty good consolation price too,

4:19

I would say. You know, I I think you're all

4:21

I think everyone's taken over. Yeah. Personally,

4:24

if I'm building a team, I'd take headwind

4:26

just because of what he does in the caliber

4:28

of player. But Tavares,

4:30

you know, he's had a really good career. He's had a really

4:32

good start. You know? And he and Marner, they

4:34

connected last night. you know, like that. I'm

4:37

curious how long that goes because bunting

4:39

got on the board a couple of times last night. Willie

4:41

scored an empty netter. Matthews,

4:43

couple of assists, but you

4:45

know, if if Tavares and Mitch are connecting,

4:49

how long do we expect the two of them to be on the

4:51

line together?

4:53

do you think thirty four is, like,

4:55

like, to kinda have him back

4:58

type of thing? Like, I don't know. I haven't

5:00

Not I don't think not forget about

5:02

that Matthews and Pairs. I

5:06

I forget about it.

5:08

Regardless, This is the regular

5:10

season. I get it. Where you're gonna be

5:12

judged, this team is going to be in the playoffs.

5:14

What but you still have pride. I heard Austin

5:17

Mathews, like, I don't care what people are thinking me

5:19

care about stats. I get that,

5:21

but III don't think he wants to end

5:23

up.

5:23

I I still think he's

5:24

gonna get fifty five goals this year.

5:26

But I just I I feel like if he

5:28

plays with Marner, he gets a lot

5:30

easier looks. I might

5:31

be wrong. Mhmm. Oh, I don't think there's

5:34

any debating that. I mean, Marner could

5:36

put it on a tee for you, unlike anyone else

5:38

on this team. And

5:40

Matthews, you know, he's been scoring a lot

5:42

of the power plays. Five on five production has

5:44

hasn't been where it has been in the past.

5:46

I think you'd reference shooting percentage

5:48

and, again, getting a ball rolling and all

5:50

of a sudden that floodgates could open. But

5:53

if it is about winning, and I think Matthews

5:55

is being genuine there. If this

5:57

is gonna help you, then stick with it. Stick

5:59

with Mariner and Tavares. Joining us

6:01

now in the Maple Toyota hotline here's our TSN

6:03

hockey analyst, Mike Johnson. How

6:05

do you project that mystic Mike?

6:08

The idea that Marner will stay with Tavares

6:10

on the line for what the next game, two

6:12

games, five, ten, how

6:14

long before Matthews starts

6:16

looking and saying, maybe I'll take sixteen back

6:18

on my way? I

6:21

think it goes

6:21

until they don't win or are not

6:23

productive or some combination of the both.

6:25

Right? Like, I don't think as much as

6:27

they want off and going off is still getting

6:29

chances. If the team is winning and

6:31

if moderate or ours are scoring together,

6:34

and if Matthews and MUELLiner are budging or

6:36

scoring together, even if it's not quite as

6:38

much as Austin wants or anybody wants because everybody

6:40

always wants a little bit more. And I

6:42

think they stay together kind of almost indefinitely

6:44

now at some point, it'll cool off. At

6:46

some point, it will happen and they will go back

6:49

to Matthews and Martin together, like

6:51

they have so many times before. But Yeah.

6:54

I think it's almost indefinite until

6:56

it's no longer working. I

6:58

think this is the luxury

7:00

that they're trying to explore they have all these high

7:02

end players. They don't have to just play

7:05

these two guys together and these two guys together.

7:07

You can mix and match as needed

7:09

And right now, if it's working or

7:12

or Tamar's and Mariner are good together,

7:14

then they stay together. And I don't think we

7:16

can forget that. I think it was it was

7:18

like mid just maybe second year where

7:20

it's a VARs and Marner played together an awful

7:22

lot and then we're very good together, very

7:24

productive together. So we shouldn't

7:26

be surprised that they have a good chemistry,

7:28

good connection. I guess we're going to drive

7:30

good. We shouldn't be surprised at all either. So I

7:33

don't know if it said the over under. I'd probably said

7:35

it somewhere around ten games if it goes

7:37

well because they're not going to hospital

7:40

or rush to get out of it. Johnny,

7:43

Matt Murray, kinda he

7:44

got the job done. He looked fairly good last

7:47

night.

7:47

Like, you're talking about the line

7:49

combinations, the Gold tender, how he

7:51

played. Like, you

7:53

would is the organization basically

7:55

looking for this to all to come together. Like,

7:58

who cares about who you're playing with?

7:59

Matt Murray, forget about your past

8:02

injury

8:02

status, but let's build something

8:04

towards the playoffs and get on a heat

8:06

or come playoff time. And let's see

8:08

if we can pull this off. It

8:11

kind of seems that way, though. Right?

8:13

Like, this team has, you'd say, well,

8:15

if it all comes together, if

8:17

it all works out, if it all

8:19

goes according to plan, then they would be really,

8:21

really good. and they have a gold center who's

8:23

won two Stanley Cups, who has been really,

8:25

really good in his career. Now

8:27

there's a whole bunch of ifs for all

8:29

parties involved and I think Matt Murray's

8:31

last game was a very positive

8:34

first step. He

8:36

got the win. only gave up two goals.

8:38

He was asked to do quite a lot, especially in the

8:40

second period. News supply

8:43

tell you, like, maybe something to read about control

8:46

or his movement might have

8:48

been a little bit leaky, but he did

8:50

enough to keep trucks out of the net.

8:52

And like a lot of the team though, it's just

8:54

kind of a weight

8:56

and fee or wait and prove it. Like, happy

8:58

for him. Glad it went

9:00

well. Saw glimpse of what he could

9:02

be with the team. But he

9:04

has to do it a whole bunch,

9:06

not just to everybody he can, but to everybody

9:08

he can stay healthy and do it to

9:10

kind of maybe start feeling comfortable or

9:12

confident that it might end

9:14

up being as good as they think it could

9:16

be.

9:19

Yeah. Got it. Where do you

9:21

stand?

9:21

Oh, sorry.

9:23

Go ahead. Sorry about that. Johnny, where do you

9:25

stand when it comes to O

9:27

and I or O brought it up on the show

9:29

earlier? about he

9:31

read some analytics

9:32

people talking that they should use

9:35

the money for Muzzin to go get

9:37

another forward in instead of trying

9:39

to shore up the D? Did

9:43

were they listening to our segment here last week? I think

9:45

I said last week on this on this

9:47

show. Okay. On a sec, you agree

9:49

with that? I I

9:52

think that, yeah, they could I I

9:54

think the chance

9:56

of landing a impact forward

9:59

is much easier then

10:01

define and impact the sentiment.

10:04

But that's a different angle, though, Johnny. That

10:06

that

10:06

is say that's saying, you know, I can't

10:08

find that. I was not saying let's

10:10

say they're both available for the same

10:12

package, which are you taking? A

10:14

forward or a defenseman. if

10:16

it's – if you can have

10:18

Ryan O'Reilly or you can have

10:22

Peter or you're going to share Peter, Right. But

10:24

you're not gonna get Shacey, you don't you're

10:26

gonna get Scott Mayfield, to

10:28

meet you Coolikov and

10:31

Right. O'Reilly. Oh, and or Riley. And I

10:33

think you probably try to get both. Yeah.

10:35

0II am of the mind

10:37

that I'm going to get one of those

10:39

defensive businessmen that can help you

10:41

when Brody's back and everyone else is healthy with

10:43

that money is a good idea. But

10:46

they also, I think, would do well

10:48

to upgrade their forward. And

10:50

that I don't even think that's being, like, super read.

10:52

Their third or fourth lines are not as good as

10:54

they once were. last year.

10:56

And if they could get

10:57

someone who could defend

10:58

really well and I was wondering why I don't rally out

11:01

there because depending UFA and

11:03

he's a good player, somebody

11:05

like that. And I think that would

11:07

be a more feasible and

11:10

almost a smarter way to use all that

11:12

money is to go get both, but

11:14

the impact defense when everybody wants it.

11:16

If they don't exist, like,

11:19

Ottawa has been trying to get that

11:21

guy nine months.

11:23

They have more picks and better

11:25

prospects to trade and are just as desperate

11:27

as Toronto, and they haven't been able to do

11:29

it. And Jacob Chickering is not the answer. Like,

11:31

that's not the guy who's gonna make

11:33

this offense to what you want to be. Oh.

11:35

So, yeah, I I am also a little bit of the

11:37

mind that, you know, don't ignore the forward just

11:39

because everyone seems to think that the offense is where

11:41

the issue my my only

11:43

point, Johnny, is that

11:44

if you

11:46

wanna get by the sec or the first round

11:48

and and have a stretch, like that

11:50

decor. No way, know

11:52

how. Sorry. So you

11:53

can go get it forward. But if you think that

11:55

that's going

11:56

into the Stanley Cup playoffs, and

11:58

it's gonna go any kind of

11:59

distance for you,

12:00

not happening. Generally

12:03

speaking, what

12:04

has kept them out of the second round in the

12:06

last several years, their ability to

12:09

score or keep it out of their net? score

12:11

or keep it at internet generally be their ability to

12:13

score. I

12:14

haven't been losing in Slide four

12:16

in the playoffs. Think about the Columbus

12:18

series. Think about the last few games, again, once

12:20

you're all there, mailed the score, that one

12:22

big goal in those crucial moments in the

12:25

playoffs. Tampa, same thing. So,

12:28

you know, you you you you want both you

12:30

want to upgrade it both, but I just think

12:32

defensively as a group when everyone's

12:34

healthy and as a team, Charles

12:36

is not bad. Mhmm. I

12:38

think they could use the bog on offense.

12:40

Even with all the stars they have upfront,

12:42

I still think their depth forward could use the bump,

12:44

and it's so much easier

12:47

that would be just wanna find a

12:49

depends on. It's

12:51

a big drop off, though. That's what you're

12:53

saying.

12:53

you got four guys, and then

12:55

it's a massive drop off to the next

12:58

guy. Yeah.

13:00

Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Like, you know,

13:01

I I think we're forgetting, like, McAev,

13:04

Kasha, even Spetha, I

13:06

don't have it in front of me, but would they have

13:08

scored thirty five

13:10

goals last year? Yeah. We

13:12

gave it twenty, I believe, is all -- Yeah. -- did

13:14

he not. So Yeah. Maybe so maybe forty

13:16

-- Twenty five goal. -- whatever. Mhmm.

13:18

So, you know, and and about

13:20

probably thirty five of those were even

13:22

strength. and they don't have that. You

13:24

know, yard broker, the utility guy,

13:26

curve foot is not carrying a line on his own

13:28

at all. The fourth line actually quite liked. They've

13:30

been good, but comp on us and

13:32

REIT together are not going to score very

13:34

often. They'll do other good things, but it just

13:36

will not score. So,

13:38

yeah, like I think the idea that they want to play three lines

13:40

attacking play with pace

13:42

and be a multilayer to be on the top

13:44

two lines threat. they might

13:46

need an upgraded forward, which I think would

13:48

be available by

13:51

the far more plentiful getting

13:53

to the trade deadline that there would be a

13:55

really high end offensive. Well,

13:58

Eric Carlson is available,

13:59

Johnny. eleven point five.

14:02

Why not? How would that even work?

14:04

Make it work? five. Okay.

14:06

Make it work? Okay. So

14:09

No. Well, as San Jose

14:10

eats all of it or half of it. Right?

14:12

So now you're down to 575

14:14

The whole problem is, like, that would make sense

14:16

if there is one or two years, but four

14:18

years It's just crazy. So much.

14:20

So, like, how that would work? Okay. So what if

14:22

Montreal say, okay. Listen to San Jose,

14:24

you eat three

14:27

million dollars and we'll trade you Brendan

14:29

Gallagher for Eric Carlson. Brendan

14:31

Gallagher has four more years at five point

14:33

seven five. having a net three

14:35

million dollars pickup for Toronto

14:37

and until they get the net

14:39

whatever three million dollars saving left

14:42

Gallagher instead of Carl says, like, that

14:44

kind of trade, you need to attach and

14:46

that's not the same brand in Gallagher as a bad player, but you need

14:48

to attach a contract that is

14:50

underperforming. to make

14:52

that trade work. Because I don't think

14:54

that was going to eat everything like

14:56

six million dollars a year for four years. And

14:58

even if that was the case as great as Charles and his

15:00

business year, like, oh, do

15:02

you trust that body

15:04

for four more years at some version

15:06

of six million dollars seven million dollars eight million dollars nine million dollars

15:08

per year makes sense.

15:11

Right. Like,

15:11

that that would be a very

15:12

daunting proposition. It's probably a trade that we have

15:14

to be made out of desperation. One

15:17

of the keys that maybe could use the noodles

15:19

like, Ottawa. Maybe he's a player like

15:21

him. That's

15:21

what I was thinking when he said it. Like, would

15:24

Dorian ever there? Would he ever like,

15:26

Carlson wouldn't wave, I think, to go

15:28

back there. But, you

15:30

know, would like Ottawa keeps

15:32

coming up. Johnny, you referenced it noodles. You said

15:34

their name fifteen times in the last two

15:36

weeks. Easily. Easily.

15:38

Easily. that they need some now he

15:40

may not be exactly what they envision

15:43

as the help, but what a

15:45

return now would be. You know, Carlson

15:47

heading back to Ottawa never

15:49

gonna happen, but be kinda cool

15:51

story. And listen to Ottawa better get something

15:53

going. Like, they for

15:56

me, like, you you look at it now.

15:58

The leafs, all of a sudden, they're five

16:00

one and one in the last seven, I believe, they're nine

16:02

five and three. They're back where you thought they'd

16:04

be Boston in a great spot.

16:06

Tampa in Florida right there lurking.

16:08

Now Buffalo is fading

16:10

rapidly. Mhmm. They're losing

16:12

like crazy. Ottawa is losing

16:14

we know we think we believe we know where

16:17

Montreal and Detroit will be by the end of the

16:19

year on the outside looking in. Like,

16:21

it does all of a sudden,

16:23

kinda feel like everything

16:25

is back in its proper spot.

16:26

Does it not Johnny? Like, we're trending towards

16:29

a projection that most of us

16:32

had that Boston, Toronto, Florida,

16:34

Tampa would trump the other four teams in the

16:36

Atlantic. Absolutely.

16:38

And, yeah, May and and sixteen

16:40

games to kind of get to where

16:42

the normal order of things. And

16:44

I know there's lots of smiles and Buffalo and much

16:46

draw when they were ahead of Toronto after seven

16:48

eighty nine games. And

16:50

those credit for positive starts, but

16:53

even if the gap is tighter and it probably

16:55

will be tighter than last year.

16:58

The gap was so huge. It was always going

17:00

to be almost impossible for those kids to make

17:02

up a thirty point gap between

17:04

one of the top four and the next

17:06

fourteen. So yes, and for all

17:08

the positivity about

17:10

Ottawa, winning the summer in

17:12

Björn Dorian and Jerou and all the trade,

17:14

and they're in the last. And they're

17:16

one of the worst teams in the league. I think there are, you know, there are a

17:18

couple of points that are being lapsed in the

17:20

entire league. So

17:22

I I don't know how what the desperation level

17:24

is because I don't know if there's any trade they could

17:26

make or any move they could make that

17:29

would make them a playoff team this

17:31

year. So maybe that does alleviate some of the

17:33

pressure they want to be better, more

17:35

competitive. even more competitive probably

17:37

doesn't turn them into a playoff team.

17:39

But yeah, I guess it's kind

17:41

of the way that we all thought it would be

17:43

and we all thought it would be that way for a reason

17:46

because four teams that are at the top

17:48

four are better than the teams

17:50

that are below them. But Ottawa,

17:52

like, doesn't really feel like tonight's

17:54

game is You point old Black

17:56

Knight game, like it was Vancouver and

17:58

Buffalo. Like, Trump is gonna give

18:00

someone needs a win, chaos if

18:02

they don't, Well, now Vancouver got

18:04

it. So maybe that settles down for a

18:06

day. Then that was Ottawa and

18:08

Buffalo. Something's gotta give. Yeah. Someone's

18:10

gotta win, chaos and whoever doesn't.

18:12

feels like a game at Ottawa. Noodles, you're around

18:14

that team all the time. If it doesn't go

18:17

well, I don't know how close they are to like

18:19

some sort of tipping point

18:21

where something happens, but it like if they were to lose

18:24

tonight to another team, they're going to stay in boat,

18:26

they get pretty close to

18:28

something happening. Johnny

18:30

Yeah. And I think Pierre Dorian's

18:32

yeah. Well,

18:34

I mean, let me I I

18:35

think Pierre Dorian is gonna

18:38

do something sooner than later. Put it

18:40

that way, guys. I just I I think he can't

18:42

sit on his hands anymore. You're

18:44

right. Like Johnny winning

18:46

the off season and all that. I think all

18:48

of us thought they were gonna play meaningful hockey, but I

18:50

don't think any of us thought they were gonna be in the

18:52

playoffs, but I thought they were gonna be right

18:54

on the cusp. Bottom line

18:56

is is is they haven't had the start

18:58

that they've wanted to, and this is a

19:00

critical month for them right

19:02

now. And, you know, they're banged up. You got

19:04

Zoom out. You you've got Chabot out now with

19:06

the concussion

19:08

that could be longer, and some

19:10

guys still have underperformed. He I think Pierre

19:12

Dorin might do something just to shake a

19:14

group up too. Wow.

19:17

You gotta beat Buffalo, man. Buffalo's

19:18

last six in a row, and

19:21

you're at home. Leaking gold everywhere.

19:23

Yes. That's what you we do have with Eric Comery

19:25

and, you know, Andrew's mister Anderson.

19:28

Yeah. Like, come on. That wasn't ever

19:30

gonna be tenable. forty

19:32

one years old. Yeah. Like, come on.

19:34

And as Eric Brantstrom, as he apologized to

19:36

you at Noodles, because he laid a beating on you the

19:38

other night. We don't like him anymore. he should

19:40

reach out. No. No. No. I'm a

19:43

parent. My understanding is that

19:44

he he didn't even know he hit me.

19:47

Like, that the senes were were surprised that

19:49

I even was injured. Like, they didn't they

19:51

had no idea that I was hit

19:53

between the benches. That's when I

19:55

was told. That's why. So yeah.

19:57

Maybe it maybe they hate my gums.

19:59

He's

19:59

gonna ride in the trunk into the

20:01

your two feet away from his dog. their

20:04

trainer, like, oh, you're bleeding. What do you think

20:06

happened to you in there? No

20:08

kidding. Well, Dom was

20:10

helping out, but everyone else

20:11

was like, nah, let's nothing to see here. Let's keep moving. And it

20:13

was at the end of the period too. It

20:15

was literally, like, ten seconds left in the period,

20:17

I think. So I don't know. Well, next

20:19

time you see him, make sure he's

20:21

he at least

20:22

addresses the situation, the

20:24

elephant in the room. because he'll be

20:26

back between the benches before you know it. I mean, you

20:28

you're out there in California. I'm assuming you're gonna

20:30

see a bunch of them and yeah. We'll see what

20:32

comes up. Yep. Alright, Johnny. We'll

20:34

leave it there. Powell, do it again soon. Thank

20:37

you. Alright. Boys, we'll go on the channel

20:39

last night, and hey,

20:39

just for the record. I had a clean

20:41

sheet for mystic Michael last night. I'm giving most

20:43

of the credit to you. I noticed that. I

20:46

was paying attention. I think

20:48

tomorrow's snuck over. When do you have three shots, I

20:50

think, last night? Didn't he? He he hit

20:52

the third one late on a very

20:54

debated late Sally, they gave

20:56

him, but I -- Yeah. -- I took it

20:57

in random. So don't worry. As you

20:59

should, Gino snuck in and assist. Was that

21:01

a primary or a second this. It was

21:03

it was the primer. Oh, okay. Secondary. The tip

21:05

of the front. No. Secondary. No.

21:07

No. It doesn't matter. They don't count way around, but

21:09

we need them. We've taken them You're back, baby.

21:11

It's I love it, mystic. Mike, back in

21:13

the winter circle of feeling it. Alright.

21:15

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21:17

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dot com. Yeah. We were talking a

21:32

lot about noodles your face

21:34

last night. And and selfishly, you

21:36

know the way we operate, and the way we think, and the

21:38

way, you know, I think in terms

21:40

of content, The second had happened. It

21:42

was like, this is actually really

21:44

great. Like, it sucks for

21:46

you. But I'm like, this is gonna

21:48

be really good for us in

21:50

our material. and it was a pretty constant

21:52

theme throughout the panel. Yeah. It was

21:54

a good icebreaker for the

21:56

guys and -- Exactly.

21:57

I said I said it before. Stroudy was

21:59

the first call, then a bunch of other

22:01

goons messaging me. Tyson Nash

22:03

and Jerome again. Our group chat was

22:05

on fire, and you

22:07

know, everyone called me to leather face because there

22:10

was no cut. It was just like a

22:12

scrape and and my eyes gotten

22:14

blacker and blacker. And with the flight, Like,

22:16

I flew back from Ottawa the next morning.

22:18

Like, it moved up again. Yeah. It's

22:20

pretty tough. A little bit sore, but

22:22

it is what it is. You're a pro. Yeah. You

22:24

made it

22:24

last night, and you're back in the road, you're calling

22:26

more games, and, yeah, that one

22:28

tonight. That that's gonna be a nice

22:30

one. That that that is mandatory

22:33

midnight, I would think. Dude, I don't know why, but

22:35

I like I don't know if you what you call it

22:37

hate watching or kind of

22:39

like tension watching, but I I

22:41

get fascinated watching the most stressful games.

22:44

I know. Buffalo because it's you

22:46

gotta get back in the rails. Buffalo's lost a

22:48

ton of games. and Ottawa clearly is in trouble,

22:50

you know, early into the season. So

22:53

that more coming up around the NHL, we get

22:55

the Raptors back in action with Kyle Lowery and

22:57

the heat back in town. We'll start teeing that up. CJ Miles will

23:00

join us. His take on Kevin Durant's

23:02

comments, Ben Simmons

23:04

comments, and tee up the rapid game with him.

23:06

Darren McGregor still to come as well.

23:08

but Jerry's percentages patiently

23:11

standing by will catch up with Jerry

23:13

next. You're gonna

23:15

wanna

23:15

hear Jerry's percentages. I

23:18

don't love being commissioner as much as

23:20

I used to. I actually love it

23:22

even more. That's the voice of

23:24

a Hala

23:26

Famer. Are you kidding? Have you have

23:28

you been out drinking?

23:32

You're out, pigeons. Filthy,

23:34

pitch It's

23:37

Sherry, g e

23:38

double r y.

23:40

Alright. Sherry's percentage. Sherry's score,

23:42

by the way, Sherry's growing his hair out.

23:44

I saw it the other night. He's got, like,

23:47

locks at the back. I love

23:49

it. A little He's got a

23:51

mule.

23:51

I love

23:52

him. mood light for the winter months. Right?

23:54

It gets cold. You need a little more

23:56

He likes a he likes a beard at

23:58

the outdoor game, and I

23:59

saw it at the hall of fame. he's

24:03

going, like, all one

24:04

length, like I

24:07

love that look. It's insulation.

24:09

Man, it gets cold. You need it.

24:11

The beard, and a little bit of a little bit of length. Alright.

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24:25

moonlight. Let's hear from Jerry. I

24:28

saw fraud

24:29

last night trying to take away

24:31

the spotlight of Jerry on

24:33

the panel. Don't ever think

24:35

of it, Hayes. this is the

24:37

Jabbie show. Let's get

24:39

to

24:39

the tics. When you

24:42

go and finally stop collaborating

24:44

in the puck drop, All Jerry came to

24:46

a quick conclusion that the

24:49

Pittsburgh Penguins window is

24:51

closed and they will miss

24:52

the playoffs. Alright,

24:56

Jerry. Hello, Sean. I knew he'd be tuning

24:58

in last night. You knew it would that you talk

25:00

about hate watching. Hate watching

25:02

us on the panel last

25:04

night. But Jerry's take

25:05

his penguins missed the playoffs. He's

25:07

got them missing the playoffs.

25:09

Yeah. Seven percent. Seven

25:12

percent. And

25:13

I understand how you

25:15

could kind

25:16

of open your

25:18

eyeballs to that percentage.

25:20

after what has been

25:22

going on and after what

25:24

you saw last night. Mhmm. I don't know

25:26

what's up with their goal tending. I don't know if

25:28

they're too old, but they do this all the time

25:31

and they end up winning

25:32

the metro. And I don't

25:34

know if they'll do it again, but I do

25:36

not think

25:36

they missed the play. No

25:39

way. Seven percent.

25:41

Oh, nice. I'm

25:42

a little higher, guys. I'm a little

25:45

higher. I'm twenty

25:48

eight percent.

25:49

And and couple of things. It's not even the

25:51

age of the group because now

25:54

can cross being a lotang. They

25:56

look good. they they were good all season.

25:58

Like, they were getting looks last night. Matt Murray

26:00

made some great saves. So

26:02

it's more about the rest of the group

26:04

and the because I just Tristan Jarry is a

26:07

very good gold tender. He hasn't had a great start.

26:09

Casey just Smith, I think he's

26:11

a good too. That's it. Like, I just

26:13

I think they need saves. I think

26:15

their defensive core has been banged up. I don't

26:17

know if I we were talking about it yesterday.

26:20

or a couple days ago, knocked out two guys in

26:22

one game last week alone. They're

26:24

a banged up group and, you

26:26

know, they do look a little

26:28

bit of their age right now. But

26:30

I'm twenty eight percent.

26:31

I still believe in them. But I

26:33

I there is a There's

26:36

something there of There's

26:37

some baby. Exactly. They're they're like,

26:39

they are not a young team. Right? Like, we know that.

26:42

And look up the middle of the ice.

26:44

Sid, Gino Jeff Carter.

26:46

Like, this isn't twenty ten. And

26:48

I'm like, those those are three

26:50

great players, but they are not -- Yeah. -- there are going

26:52

there will be games this year where

26:55

like stretches where two of

26:57

them are out of the line up. Like, I fully

26:59

expect that injuries will pop up,

27:02

and that is likely gonna

27:04

happen. Now The thing is you look at the

27:06

metro,

27:06

the devils,

27:07

I have to give credit to Jersey.

27:09

We're paying attention to you. They're

27:11

thirteen and three. They're they're playing great. I

27:13

love this Jack Hughes. can't even get

27:16

swag. Dude, did you hear when he got

27:18

asked? What do you guys need to

27:20

do to have

27:20

a complete sixty minutes?

27:23

he's like, we've been on a nine game

27:25

heater.

27:25

I think Why

27:28

was he asked that question?

27:30

It's just overanalyzed. you know, maybe it

27:32

was something that coach said, I don't know, you know, who

27:35

knows. But No. They let

27:37

somebody they let somebody in there

27:39

that doesn't traditionally asked cocky

27:41

questions. That's what it was. There, you know,

27:43

somebody from the regular news station got

27:45

in there and asked the question. Excuse me.

27:47

Basically, my game writer.

27:49

Yeah. That's a great answer. Like, I think

27:51

we're doing pretty well. We've, you know, we've won

27:53

nine in a row, and they won again. They're they've

27:55

won ten in a row. They're thirteen in three.

27:57

Yeah. So, you know, that that that's

28:00

a ten that's an eleven

28:02

point buffer on pit.

28:04

So Jersey's there. Do I have faith that it

28:06

continues? No. I do not. but you gotta take it

28:08

for what it's worth. The Islanders look like

28:10

they've turned some things around. You know?

28:12

Like, they're in a haystuff. they

28:14

are. Carolinas getting in. I believe the Rangers are getting in.

28:16

So, like, you just start to do the the math

28:19

on it. Mhmm. I don't

28:21

know, man. Like, I don't I

28:23

don't I'm gonna say forty nine percent.

28:25

I'm gonna be into the minority, but it's

28:27

basically a coin flip for me. And I will

28:29

say this. I think one of Washington or

28:31

Pitt are gonna miss. One of them

28:33

will That's where I was gonna go. Yeah. I'll

28:35

agree with them. I'll ask one

28:37

of them are. Okay.

28:39

So they've got Washington has one more

28:41

point, but they've played two more

28:44

games. Rocco Innet hasn't

28:46

settled in. you know

28:48

-- Yeah. -- camper. What do you call

28:50

him? Oh, like, Carrie? I'm not saying it

28:52

again. You keep going though. Okay. Oh, keep

28:54

going. You supported him now. We don't just

28:56

not Darcy. It's not Rocco. But

28:58

it's just Darcy Camper signed

29:00

a big deal, and he hasn't settled in yet.

29:02

But at the end of the day, they're

29:05

like, watching dinner pit, one of those teams

29:07

could miss. Yes. I don't think Philly will be there

29:09

in the end. No. But

29:11

I But if you're looking at a

29:13

four pack from the

29:16

metro, I think there might even be a five

29:18

pack. That's what I keep saying,

29:19

like, you just gotta be banking

29:21

if you have the leaves get points every night. Yeah. I

29:23

don't know. I I still think I think Boston,

29:25

Toronto, Tampa, Florida, like, I which

29:27

one of them do we think is gonna miss?

29:30

like, Boston's not. You know,

29:33

and and I don't think the lease will. I don't think

29:35

Tampa will. I don't think Florida will. Like, I

29:37

just I don't I think those were

29:39

getting in. So I think you're dealing with four spots with

29:42

the metro and, you know, that's gonna make it difficult

29:44

for both Washington and Pitt to

29:46

get in. Alright. Let's move on here. What else do

29:48

we have from Jerry? Jellies

29:51

all time favorite

29:52

golfer is Greg Norman

29:54

because

29:54

he had the coolest gear.

29:57

But just like Sunday in ninety

29:59

six at the Masters,

30:00

it's time for Gregi

30:02

to shard himself and

30:04

its stage now because he'll

30:07

be out of bed by the end of

30:09

two thousand twenty three.

30:11

Maybe he just does on

30:13

the beach for this short sign.

30:16

You know what I mean?

30:18

Greg Norman, and what a shock that he made

30:20

sure that picture went viral.

30:23

Greg Norman. Was he a photographer

30:24

walking

30:25

with Tati, if I

30:27

have that short setup, I have

30:29

a photographer too. We'll

30:31

be calling teams easing. I'll be at the beach

30:33

in an hour. No. No. Every day at eight

30:36

o'clock, I have my walk with a coffee, and

30:38

my shorts will be wet. So I get it right

30:40

now. Instagram, Facebook, Twitter.

30:43

wide lens, please. Go

30:46

ahead. So this is

30:48

spawned by Rory

30:50

McElroy, who cannot stop talking about Lyft.

30:52

Dude, he loves it. He loves talking about it. Not

30:54

Lanny loves talking about it.

30:56

Always. And Rory said it's

30:58

time for an adult. Like, he

31:00

hates Greg Norman. he

31:02

hates him with a passion. And he

31:04

said for us to have any type

31:06

of amicable relationship and

31:10

coexistence in future. Greg Norman's go. Apparently,

31:13

Jerry is siding with Rory here,

31:15

and he thinks Greg Norman will

31:17

be out of live by the

31:19

end of twenty twenty three.

31:21

I think zero percent.

31:23

I

31:23

think he was probably floated.

31:26

There's a the players are getting a lot of money

31:28

to play golfer live. Can

31:30

you imagine the money that Greg Norman was

31:32

giving to start live? and recruit

31:34

and kind of go

31:37

against the PGA tour and be the

31:39

bad

31:39

guy and start all of this. How much he

31:41

must have got a billion dollars for

31:44

that. now. It was about he had a billion dollars, but

31:46

Like, Eric here was over five hundred

31:49

million. For Greg North, what does he do? He

31:51

doesn't

31:51

play Dude, he started to like,

31:54

did you see anybody from Saudi come over

31:56

here and started saying,

31:57

oh, yeah. We're starting up live golf. It

31:59

was Greg Norman.

31:59

Of course. He was he's the

32:02

commissioner. In fact, Kepler, Google

32:04

Google, how much Greg Norman was paid for live

32:06

for from live golf? I actually never heard

32:08

those numbers. I've never heard what he's he's trying to

32:11

has might have a percentage in it.

32:13

That's what it is. It's ownership in

32:15

it. But III agree. They

32:17

gave him a boatload of

32:18

money. This guy soiled this

32:21

reputation. Like, he he legitimately has become the villain.

32:23

Like,

32:23

he's getting paid to

32:26

be a villain now.

32:28

Like, I was I'm gonna say

32:29

fifteen percent because I've been

32:31

hearing that there's rumblings that people

32:34

on on the live tour they're

32:36

starting to hate us cuts as well. Wow. There

32:38

you go. But you might have

32:40

a problem, but I'm gonna say,

32:44

The the the the the comment is

32:46

he won't be

32:46

at live. Yes. He's oh, he's

32:49

disassociated with liver. He's gone. Fifteen

32:51

percent. Fifteen percent. I'm

32:54

lower. I I think he's tied to live.

32:55

He's a cat. man.

32:57

Spot committed. So what's

32:59

your number then, Noodles?

33:01

seven percent -- Seven percent. -- you

33:03

see what

33:03

grabbers put in our group tax

33:06

seven hundred to eight hundred million.

33:08

Wow. For Greg Norman

33:10

to not I'll pick

33:10

up a clock. Hold on a second. Like, now he's saying

33:13

that's a lie. Yeah. So now he's he's

33:15

picked up fake news. So There's our crack

33:17

research team. Yeah. Crack news

33:19

No. That's a

33:22

lie. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, guys. That's a

33:24

lie. Yeah. Ron Ron It's

33:26

on AOL. He's on it. He's like, what are

33:28

we using here to try

33:30

to find out Greg Norman's side.

33:32

Yeah. Like, did he put twenty five cents

33:34

in a gumball machines and pop

33:36

out it? a number. Honestly.

33:38

But here's here's what I think we

33:40

need to remember. Who we're dealing

33:42

with at the top? Do you think the

33:44

Saudis care about Greg Norman?

33:47

Do you think they care about him

33:49

at all? Absolutely not. But, dude, he

33:51

might be so deep

33:52

into them where he they

33:54

think that Greg Norman is the only guy

33:56

that can operate this live operation. They probably

33:59

you know what it's

33:59

like when there's like a non golfer just a

34:02

bunch of money and Greg Norman gets in

34:04

there when the greatest of all time and

34:06

he's like, I do this. I know how to make

34:08

this work and everyone start thinking he's

34:10

a God.

34:12

Yes. I agree with you. And I think that was definitely the sales

34:14

pitch that they bought hook line

34:16

and sinker to get it off

34:19

the ground. But the whole essence of

34:21

this program from the Saudi perspective

34:24

is is to elevate their

34:26

reputation internationally. Right? It's all about

34:28

the Saudi fund. It's all about

34:30

them, you know, trying to improve their

34:32

reputation around the world. And if

34:34

they believe Macro is being

34:36

genuine here, and I'm not sure that he is. And I

34:38

Macroro doesn't speak for everyone on tour.

34:40

You know, like, there's a commissioner of

34:42

the PGA that needs to speak for this.

34:44

But Right. If the Saudis actually get to

34:47

a

34:47

conclusion that they

34:50

believe,

34:50

if Norman's gone, we we

34:53

can amplify what we're trying to do here. They're not gonna be beholden

34:55

to Greg Norman. And why would

34:57

you believe Norman is Norman

34:59

doesn't want to be associated with the PGA Tour. He hates

35:02

them. He hates McElroy. But what

35:04

in the Saudis care if their players get

35:06

to actually play in

35:08

a major because Greg Norman's not around. Like, what do they care?

35:10

Because maybe because then they can say, look

35:12

what we've accomplished here. Look what we've

35:14

done. We're on the

35:16

same par. you know, right now, they're just a bunch of there's it's a

35:18

nothing tour. It's a nothing tour.

35:20

And guys that play three round tournaments

35:22

don't deserve to

35:22

play in major championships in my

35:26

personal opinion. I wanna see them there, though. I wanna see Dustin

35:28

Johnson. If they want of course, I

35:30

wanna see Dustin Johnson at Kam Smith,

35:32

but how fair is it other guys that are playing four

35:34

round tournaments. And these guys

35:37

are are blowing bubbles and riding

35:39

dirt bikes around the team blocks

35:41

with their golf clubs. and they're playing three

35:43

rounds of golf. It's not fair. It's not right. It

35:45

is different. But I'm gonna say sixty

35:47

five percent Normans gone by the end

35:49

of twenty twenty three. sixty

35:52

five percent Alright. What else do we have?

35:53

The Boston Bruins

35:56

will keep

35:56

lapping the field and win

35:59

the

35:59

president's trophy this season. They are in

36:02

a pretty good spot. Now, Vegas

36:04

is right there

36:05

with them. and we

36:07

have a lot of season

36:10

left. I mean, let's let's be perfectly

36:12

honest. Right. Yeah. But they are

36:14

at they are at twenty eight points. Vegas is at

36:16

twenty six. and then

36:18

it's a big drop off. Like, they've they've

36:20

got a pretty significantly now the Devils are

36:22

twenty six two, but the Devils are not winning the

36:26

president's trophy. be honest. I I popped their tires a minute ago. Let's bring that

36:28

back to reality. Here you

36:30

go. Why equipment day? Who knows? Maybe

36:32

they have a magical year like the Buffalo

36:34

Savers didn't

36:36

do thousand den. Do you think that Donald's have a sniff at

36:38

me? I don't I don't know if

36:40

we need a negative where you're just, like, it's

36:42

not hot. because I don't think they're that good.

36:45

I think they're better than you think. They're they're I've

36:47

talked to people that think that they're I've

36:50

talked to people that think that they're the fastest

36:52

team

36:52

in the National Hockey That's significant. That and that is

36:54

something that can win a lot of regular season games.

36:56

Yeah. There's I I'm not

36:58

executing that, but the president's throw Alright.

37:01

Get back on track. The Boston Bruins win the

37:03

president's trophy. Mhmm. I'm

37:05

gonna say seventy

37:08

nine percent

37:08

because it's just something

37:11

Boston would do.

37:12

It's just something Boston would

37:14

do.

37:14

One it's their last

37:16

dance. It's

37:17

their last dance. Is

37:20

it? We've been saying it feels like we've been saying that

37:22

for

37:22

five years. Dude, it was a shower

37:24

left. on in Christ. She end up back there.

37:27

Again, next year. Yeah. I fully expect it, especially with

37:29

all the success they're having. But we

37:31

we said that when Charah left, we

37:33

said

37:33

that when Chuka

37:36

left, like, it, you know, crudgy went away for a year, it comes

37:38

back. They just find a way, and

37:40

it's Marshaan, it's Burjiran, it's

37:42

pastor, Nakhu

37:44

said, think fashion acts got to I think he's third in the league and

37:46

scoring right now, like as far as points and

37:48

stuff. Like, he's having an unbelievable start

37:51

to the season. I I'm gonna be a little bit lower than you, Hayes,

37:53

because I'm gonna play the field.

37:54

I think Vegas is is a good team.

37:57

Mhmm. I think Carolina's a

37:59

good team. I think there's a bunch of teams like that

38:01

are right, you know, maybe at

38:03

twenty two

38:05

twenty one points. right now

38:07

behind them. So

38:07

I'm gonna go fifty six percent for for

38:10

Yeah. I'm I'm

38:10

lower than that. I'm gonna say twenty

38:14

percent. I mean, we're we're fifteen of games into the

38:16

season. Yeah. I mean, they're off to an

38:18

incredible start.

38:20

And they're gonna cruise to

38:22

the playoffs. But, like, Vegas is off

38:24

to a good start. There are

38:26

other high end teams in the league

38:28

that still have a lot of runway to to

38:31

make up some ground. And it's I

38:33

think it's too early. Like, if they're still in this

38:35

position where they're they've got a huge gap

38:37

in twenty more games, then it

38:39

starts to push towards sixty, seventy percent. But I'm I'm gonna

38:41

be relatively low on this. What did I say?

38:43

Twenty twenty percent? twenty

38:47

percent of the unions hold on and win

38:49

the president's trophy.

38:51

The blue jays will

38:53

trade at least one more

38:55

significant roster piece this soft

38:58

Atios, Tia Oscar Hernandez.

39:00

You are one of my favorites.

39:03

I didn't know that. Jerry loved

39:05

Tayo. Tayo Oscar Hernandez on his way

39:08

to Seattle. So I don't like that. I

39:10

don't know. is one of those

39:12

guys whereas,

39:12

like, a jays guy. I like watching the

39:14

jays. He was one of my guys that I

39:16

was, like, this guy's a legit good player.

39:18

Yep. I just like the guy.

39:20

I gotta miss him. Well, he was I

39:22

mean, he hits for power. Like, that's for sure.

39:24

Like, this he was capable of hitting thirty

39:27

five home runs. Yeah. That's right.

39:29

That's difficult to I know Atkins said today, they think

39:31

they can they can fill that production from within.

39:34

I'll I'll believe that one. I see it.

39:36

Who? Well, I don't

39:38

think anyone stay south. Bijio

39:40

gonna go start launching bombs? No.

39:42

A full year of Whit Marafield isn't

39:45

gonna supply that. not gonna happen. One more guy

39:47

gets traded as the percentage? Yep. Like one more

39:50

guy of of significance. I guess you're

39:52

talking Kirk, you're talking maybe

39:54

Bijio could

39:56

be included in that Greel -- Yeah. -- everyday ball players. Eighty

39:58

five percent not gonna go

39:59

ninety percent. I think they're look at

40:02

shuffling the

40:04

deck and possibly add strengths in different areas,

40:06

hopefully, pitching, but I think

40:07

ninety five percent. Ninety ninety five

40:09

percent. Yeah. They're gonna do

40:12

it. Mhmm. I I'm high on this

40:14

too. They've they've got needs they need to

40:16

address. It was two years

40:17

ago, I had, what, ninety one wins. Last

40:20

year, that ninety two. like, air it's it's

40:22

not like they were a hundred win

40:24

team. Like, I need to continue to

40:26

keep pushing it. III would

40:28

I don't know who they would trade, but I I think you're gonna see one more

40:30

piece move out to try and add to their

40:33

bold pencils. I'm high on that too. Yeah. I'm high

40:35

on it as well. I mean, like

40:37

Phillips said, they're dealing with a a budget and it's like

40:40

money goes out, money comes

40:42

in, and that's likely a part of

40:44

it as well. Like, you're

40:46

you're looking they wanna they want left

40:48

handed bats. I think they want better defensive players. And

40:50

this is going to be

40:52

the the Springer Bishop flotty

40:56

show. Like, that's that's what we're talking here.

40:58

And Kirk too, like, if Kirk can do it again,

41:00

Kirk was a really productive

41:02

player this year. and that's

41:04

effectively gonna be your team, you build around

41:06

them. And I I think that's gonna be

41:08

a part of it. So I'm I'm I can say

41:10

eighty five percent Yeah. I think another piece is gonna

41:13

go. Alright. We got some Jerry's after

41:15

dark in about an hour. Darren McGregor

41:17

still to come, CJ Myles still

41:19

to come on Raptors eat tonight. Kevin

41:21

Durant's comments, Ben Simmons. Like, it's just

41:23

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41:26

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still to come. And this

42:18

some of these Kevin

42:20

Durant comments with Chris Hanes

42:22

are Crazy.

42:24

So explosive. Like, I'm I'm

42:26

getting accused Hayes of saying he's not

42:28

a leader. But how can you say what you said

42:30

on the record and be

42:32

considered a leader?

42:35

and be Like, listen

42:36

to what he says about his teammates.

42:38

Guys that are on the

42:40

plane with him back to Brooklyn, they

42:42

just got crushed by Sacramento. and

42:45

this was to a reporter. This is

42:47

to Chris Haynes, one of the biggest

42:50

insiders in basketball. He

42:52

said, quote, this is Kevin Durant. Look at our

42:54

starting lineup. Edmund Somner,

42:56

Royce O'Neil, Joe Harris, Nick Claxton,

42:58

and me. It's not disrespect, but

43:00

what are you expecting from that group? You

43:03

expect this to win because I'm out there, end

43:05

quote, those are his current teammates. That's

43:08

outrageously Ruthless,

43:10

but that comment has not made

43:13

a lot. No. No.

43:14

That's like, if you're

43:17

though those guys

43:18

are on

43:21

the bus, on the plane, in the room, on

43:23

the bench, they're his current teammates,

43:26

and he's basically saying they are

43:28

absolutely awful.

43:30

They're horrendous, and you're and they're suing his

43:33

career. That's basically what he's

43:35

saying. I played in Minnesota with a

43:37

guy named Aaron Gabbie.

43:40

now Aaron got picked up an expansion from Dallas, and he would

43:42

he knew I played in Saint Louis

43:45

with Brett Hall. And

43:48

when hitch hitch in Hollywood can

43:50

hitchcock in Hollywood fight? So

43:52

at one point, it was

43:55

Aaron Gazy, Mike Keane and

43:58

Brett Hall on the line. And apparently, Holly

44:00

turned around right in front of them and

44:02

goes, oh, great hit. You've got Aaron

44:04

gave me passing me the puck. And and,

44:07

like, gave me's gave me's,

44:09

like, I'm right here,

44:12

buddy.

44:12

That's that's a

44:15

direct comment right there. Basically, what do you expect

44:17

what do you want me to do with these stiffs?

44:19

But at least that is off

44:21

the record on the bench. All show ranges.

44:23

They're both out. They're both out

44:26

range. Right. Like that one's really

44:28

tough. Like a private meeting in the

44:30

coach's room can you give me

44:32

some help? Like, to the guy's face, that is outrageous. That's tough.

44:34

But this one is public knowledge.

44:37

It's public record Chris

44:40

it's like, did he not realize Haynes was recording

44:42

this? Like, he's just

44:44

basically saying, look who I'm playing with. We

44:46

can't beat Sacramento because these guys are

44:50

brutal. And I don't know, man. I I wonder if it's if it's

44:52

reaching

44:52

sabotage time

44:54

now for Durant. Like, if he's gonna

44:56

take a page out of the hardened book,

44:59

you know, Carmelo in Denver where

45:01

he's like, I just I have you gotta get

45:03

out. You're

45:03

getting they lost to the Lakers who

45:06

no one loses to. they lost a

45:08

Sacramento, but he he's

45:09

just trying the last straw. He's like, I

45:11

just

45:11

can't be associated with this anymore.

45:14

Right. I've got, like I

45:16

don't know. But it

45:18

didn't

45:18

work in the summer. Why would it work now? Is

45:19

it different pressure points now or

45:22

what? I get against sabotage.

45:24

That's you know, that might be the only way out because you what are

45:26

you gonna try to bend and Kyrie

45:28

Irving. You get to trust those two? Like

45:30

Kyrie's not playing because of the that's

45:31

the team that's made

45:34

that that he's not playing at Ben Simmons. This is Ben Simmons. Right?

45:36

He hit ten points for the first time in, like, five

45:38

hundred days, and it was

45:40

celebrated as if that was some

45:42

big accomplishment.

45:42

you know, it's it

45:44

it is a mess. They're terrible. They're

45:45

twelve in the east. They are a

45:48

mess, and Kevin Durant is on an island

45:50

there. And

45:50

I'm wondering if this is sabotage

45:52

now. That might be the final card.

45:55

CJ Miles on that and more

45:57

in the next hour, Darren Dreger

45:59

will join us as well. Well, we'll

46:01

get his take on Jersey because Jersey's gonna be town tomorrow night. Right? Like,

46:03

I'm Why don't we get his

46:05

take Casey from your little

46:06

inside or

46:08

trading segment, we'll just do a follow-up. Okay.

46:11

I'll follow-up on the back desk. How

46:13

about that moving around last

46:15

night. I didn't watch it. I was too nervous. I'm like, maybe

46:17

he's gonna get some late game, like,

46:20

shakes. It was it was seamless though. I

46:22

think it went alright. I will ask Gregor. You

46:24

ask him. I'm not gonna ask them. You let him Bring

46:26

him in, and that'll be my first question. Alright.

46:28

Well, catch up with Dregs and CJ Miles. Overdrive

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