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Up next, Out Loud with Gianno

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called America's

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inner cities have been flooded with federal money for

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decades, yet they remained riddled

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with crime, poverty, and terrible

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schools. And today these

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problems only seem to be getting worse, especially

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in Baltimore in Chicago. Why

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is this the case and what can be

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done about it? Today? I dig into

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the facts and shed light on some of the unpleasant

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truths with a very special guest.

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This is Outlied with Gianno Caldwell. Welcome

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back to Allied with Gianno Calblo. I'm

0:43

Giano Calblin and I've got an amazing

0:46

show for you guys this week. We're doing

0:48

something different, but I think you'll enjoy

0:50

it. I'm bringing on my dear friend

0:52

Kimberly Klasick, who I'm sure many

0:54

of you already know, to co host with me this

0:56

week. Rather than me interviewing her

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as I do with most of my guests, We're

1:01

gonna tag team this episode, having

1:03

a really honest and in depth conversation

1:05

who knows, maybe even a debate on issues

1:08

we both really care about. Now,

1:11

for those of you who don't know Kim,

1:14

she's a rock star in the Republican Party

1:16

in the Conservative movement in Camera

1:19

and for Congress in Maryland seven District, which includes

1:21

much of Baltimore, winning the Republican

1:23

nomination. During the campaign,

1:26

Kim gained national fame for

1:28

her creative and hard hitting ads calling

1:30

out Baltimore's Democrat leaders for

1:32

filling the city's residents for decades.

1:35

Earlier this year, following the campaign, Kim

1:38

founded Red Renaissance, a

1:40

new and influential political action committee

1:42

dedicated to supporting the next generation

1:44

of conservative leaders. Kim

1:47

and I will discuss her pack and plans

1:49

for the future, but first we

1:51

dig in to the rise in violent crime devastating

1:53

American cities, the terrible

1:56

state of education in these cities,

1:58

and all things COVID. Trust

2:01

me, you don't want to miss this one. Stay

2:03

in your seats. And with that,

2:05

I want to bring on my very dear friend, Kimberly

2:07

Klasick. Kim, thank you

2:09

so much for doing this. I'm so excited

2:12

to have you on. This is really for me.

2:15

Uh, it's an honor. In a full circle moment,

2:17

I remember many many years

2:19

ago how we met. You reached out to

2:21

me on Twitter and you wanted to talk about media,

2:24

and I was like, wow, Okay, first

2:26

and foremost, this young lady is

2:29

very beautiful, Like who

2:31

is this? Why haven't I heard of her just

2:33

yet? And we madden hit a very friendly conversation,

2:36

and um, from there has

2:39

been just a tremendous friendship

2:41

of growth. You've grown in media

2:43

and so have I don't think at that point I was on

2:45

Fox News. But the little

2:48

advice I was able to offer you in

2:50

contact, you took and you blew it

2:53

up and did something that I've never seen anyone

2:55

else do. So it's an honor to be

2:57

working with you and co hosting this show with you.

3:00

I don't thank you so much for having me back. I

3:02

was just thinking about the fact I think that was two thousand

3:04

and fourteen, and that we met

3:07

up and you were giving me advice at a coffee

3:09

shop, and if you remember all those details,

3:11

yeah, I do Starbucks on Capitol I remember

3:13

that day. Yeah, yeah. And then from there

3:16

I went and did the show with with Roland

3:18

Martin, I believe Roll one American

3:20

News Network, and then it was Roland Martin.

3:23

But you you just stayed consistent in

3:25

your approach. You continue to push.

3:28

We talked regularly throughout and then

3:30

you became a big superstar. And I don't

3:33

know if you recall, during that Starbucks visit

3:35

on Capitol Hill, I said,

3:37

and I recalled, I said, you can be very

3:39

big. You got it. You just

3:41

gotta push through, Uh, star writing,

3:44

do TV media, But I think you could be a big

3:46

star. Remember me saying that to you? I do, I

3:48

do, And I didn't believe you. I was like talking

3:56

point talking point indeed,

3:59

but you are a big star. So it

4:01

worked out. So I'm happy to be here

4:04

with you. So as we talk about

4:06

what's really devastating the violent crime

4:09

in America cities, it's it seemingly

4:11

always an issue, but it's especially

4:14

more of an issue now in the in the wake

4:16

of George Floyd, and you see

4:18

how the Democratic Party has been

4:20

running the country from the White House

4:22

to these Chicago you talk about Baltimore,

4:25

going to Detroit, any of these urban

4:28

centers, for the residents

4:30

there, it's hell on earth for many

4:32

of those folks. And you really

4:34

made a name for yourself, uh

4:37

when it comes to Baltimore by shooting

4:39

film of the waste

4:42

in the city where people were actually living, seeing

4:45

the environment. And President Trump

4:47

took it upon himself to repeat

4:49

a number of your videos and it really

4:51

put you on a rocket. No.

4:54

Absolutely, and I'm so blessed

4:56

that. I feel so fortunate for that happening.

4:58

This is why I tell people on of time, like, if you have

5:01

something going on in your community and you know it's

5:03

not right, and you know, government can

5:05

get involved because you're paying taxes and it's

5:07

their job. Anyways, what I did was basically

5:09

take my cell phone and made a couple of videos

5:12

showing just all of the trash in

5:14

all the crumbling infrastructure, and I

5:17

kept posting it and I did it for about a week. Um,

5:19

and then that's when I got a call from a

5:21

producer at Fox News and they're like, um,

5:23

can you tell us where you are? And I was

5:25

like, I'm in Baltimore, and she thought I was in another

5:28

country. She had no idea. Yes,

5:31

that's what's so crazy about it. And she said,

5:33

well, you gotta come on and explain. And so

5:35

I went on Fox and Friends that morning, and

5:37

it just so happened. President Trump was watching

5:40

at that moment, and when he retweeted the

5:42

videos, he was like, look, I know for a fact,

5:44

we have sent millions of dollars to Baltimore.

5:47

Recently, you know, because right after the

5:49

the riots that we had in two thousand fifteen,

5:51

after the death of Freddy Gray, President

5:53

Barack Obama and President Trump sent

5:56

a ton of money to Baltimore and into

5:58

that area where I took the video ols that I was

6:00

just showing people. Look, they haven't done

6:02

anything on the ground here, and it's been

6:04

years, and so I just felt very fortunate

6:07

that the story got picked up and people

6:09

got to see what was going on. And you've

6:11

not stopped since then. You ran for

6:13

Congress, but you're still in the community, You're still in

6:15

Baltimore, you're still talking to the residents. In

6:18

fact, we have some exclusive

6:20

audio that we want to play from one of the

6:23

residents that you you're you're providing

6:25

for for our show today. Yeah. Well, man, I'm

6:27

scared to go out myself. I mean, uh,

6:29

you know, we got Baltimore is

6:31

on um track club having three

6:34

murder in a in a in a year for a

6:37

seven year row climb is up. I

6:39

can't go to the can't go to the gas

6:41

station, gas station people being robbed at

6:43

the gas station down when they pulled their cars up to

6:45

the punt. I mean, what are we supposed to do

6:47

here. Baltimore commons, it's just out of control.

6:49

Baltimo was one of the Uh, this is one

6:51

of the more worst cities for climb in

6:54

America. We're just supposed to do now, Kim,

6:56

this, this is your community. What do you

6:58

think when you hear this? It's the exact

7:00

truth. And so when we see people

7:03

coming out and talking about defunding the police,

7:05

I want people to know in Baltimore City,

7:08

especially West Baltimore, absolutely

7:10

no one there wants to defund the police. They

7:12

actually want more of a police presence.

7:14

And as that gentleman was saying that

7:17

the whole car jacking is through the roof right

7:19

now, armed carjackings, a lot of

7:21

juveniles are doing it. A lot of juveniles

7:24

are getting away with it because they know right now

7:26

our state's attorney isn't really prosecuting

7:28

juveniles. So we call it a

7:30

walk through here. You know, a police officer

7:32

might arrest the juvenile for an armed carjacking,

7:35

but he's able to go to central booking and walk

7:37

right out because unfortunately, right

7:39

now they're not really prosecuting juveniles.

7:42

UM. So it's a very scary situation for

7:44

those that live here. UM. And we have a lot

7:46

of senior citizens. They're the ones that actually own

7:48

their homes in these neighborhoods, and they're afraid

7:50

to go outside. Man. That's

7:53

that's that's really devastating. And and

7:55

and honestly, you know, you have experienced

7:58

some of these things yourself. It's not as you're just

8:00

getting audio. You've been in these neighborhoods. You've

8:03

lived in one of these neighborhoods

8:05

before where they were shooting on the block. You live knowing,

8:07

right, correct? Even I

8:09

guess it was maybe two weeks ago. We were

8:11

at an event one of my managers

8:14

here at Renaissance. They were hosting a town hall.

8:16

We wanted to actually get people together

8:18

in a room at a church, Simmons Morel

8:21

Baptist Church, and just asked them

8:23

what were their immediate needs right,

8:25

what can we do right this second to

8:28

cure some of the problems. And so we're

8:30

all sitting there, we talk, we're there for

8:32

about an hour, we go outside,

8:34

and of course, further down the street we hear gunshots.

8:37

It's literally NonStop, right,

8:39

and and so a lot of times we talk about the homicide,

8:42

but we don't talk about the shootings. We don't

8:44

talk about the attempted murders. We don't talk about

8:46

them. Shootings basically heard and even

8:48

though they don't hit anyone, but those are

8:50

attempts on someone's life, and so we don't

8:52

talk about that. But that's ongoing in these

8:54

neighborhoods. That's that's terrible.

8:56

So anything gonna happen with the state's attorney there.

8:59

So our states Attorney Maryland Mosby, she's

9:01

a self proclaimed progressive, so

9:04

she's not actually prosecuting what

9:06

she calls low level crimes right now. Um,

9:09

so she's not prosecuting those

9:11

dealing drugs, prostitution.

9:14

Uh, there's like a list of things, and she calls

9:16

it victimless crimes. But we know

9:18

those crimes lead to bigger crimes.

9:22

Yeah, I mean, it's it's it's unbelievable at

9:24

what she does. But we have violent repeat offenders

9:27

on our streets as well. And you take a

9:29

look at what's going on in Baltimore. We have shooters

9:31

that have been caught with handguns

9:34

scene, leaving the scene of a crime, and

9:36

they still just to get to walk free. And

9:39

it's unbelievable to me. You know what's

9:41

interesting to me is we talked

9:43

a lot about criminal justice reform. And

9:46

when the First Step Act came up,

9:48

we had a lot of conservatives. It

9:50

was a vocal minority, I should say a

9:52

vocal minority of conservatives who were saying, listen,

9:55

we can't do any criminal justice reform because then

9:57

you're gonna allow those

9:59

criminal back onto the

10:01

street, lighter sentences. Crime will

10:04

will get worse, it will become worse. When

10:06

we heard that, a lot of us we pushed back on

10:08

that. But we are seeing crime become

10:11

worse. But can anyone articulate

10:14

that that's because of the criminal

10:16

justice reform? I e. People may think that

10:18

the laws have been weakened. Therefore the

10:20

criminals have become really bullish

10:23

on committing to crimes in in the area. Do

10:25

you do you think that might have anything to do with

10:27

it? No? No, And I think

10:29

we're both we both know Doron Smith right,

10:31

that was right

10:34

right, and he was the one that authored a lot of that. For

10:37

me, the proof is in the pudding, right.

10:39

Most of these crimes and most of the riseing crime

10:42

is happening in cities where you have progressive

10:44

mayors and progressive prosecutors.

10:46

So it was really criminal justice reform

10:49

because that was something that happened on

10:51

a federal level. We would see it in all areas,

10:54

right, but we only see it in these particular

10:57

areas that progressives are in charge.

10:59

So I think it's fact that they're soft

11:01

on criminals altogether. I still

11:03

believe that people should have second chances,

11:05

especially if it is what we call those victimus

11:07

crimes. We have a lot of people that come out

11:09

of prison that want to do the right thing, and

11:11

I believe that they should have the chance to do so

11:14

well. I think with that Criminal Justice Reform,

11:16

the biggest piece of it was the First Step Act

11:19

allowing individuals as they're coming out of prison

11:22

a chance to get caught up on what we

11:24

got in the tech boom and you know, getting

11:26

some skills understanding how to put their resumes

11:28

together. And so we're not releasing

11:30

criminals not able to then go and get

11:33

a job, because the last thing we wanted for them to end up

11:35

back in prison. So I thought Criminal

11:37

Justice Reform First Step Act. I thought they were

11:39

both great, at which President Trump got more credit

11:41

for him than he did. He was he

11:44

was the reason he

11:46

was because the folks that the very again

11:49

vocal minority on the

11:51

right, because Democrats played a game with

11:53

it too, So Democrats were all for it. When

11:55

Republicans got on board, they were against

11:58

it. Is that all we can't do it. They didn't want Republicans

12:00

to get any credit. And then we had a vocal minority

12:03

on the right, people like Senator Tom Cotton,

12:05

people like the Senator Ted Cruz, who

12:08

were saying, yeah, we don't think we

12:10

should be getting involved in that. In

12:12

Senator Mike Lee, a former federal prosecutor.

12:15

Uh, he was a very big

12:17

advocate for it, and he laid out some brilliant

12:20

points to counter all

12:22

the nonsense from Senator Ted Cruz. So

12:24

that that was that was great. However,

12:28

President Trump was the reason. If it

12:30

wasn't for him pushing it, Mitch McConnell

12:33

and others as hard as he did, it

12:35

would not have happened. So he does

12:37

deserve a lot of credit. And I

12:39

still stand by my statement which I've made in

12:41

the past. President Trump has been

12:44

the most productive

12:47

advocate for policy

12:49

that impacts black folks

12:51

most We've never seen the president

12:54

like that on so many

12:56

issues and one term,

12:58

especially being your term, no Democrat

13:01

or Republicans, So he does deserve

13:04

that credit, which we know Democrats

13:06

will not give him, not at all.

13:08

And we saw it on the heels of

13:11

our first black president, President Barack

13:13

Obama, and I think that's also what

13:15

woke a lot of people up in the black community.

13:17

It was like, wow, you know, we had a black president

13:19

and and these are the things that he should have been pushing, but

13:22

it took President Trump to come along to get

13:24

it done. So yes, I thank

13:26

President Trump for doing that, but I really

13:29

am just so disheartened by

13:31

the progressives that really

13:34

feel the need to basically turn everything around

13:36

and be soft on criminals when they're

13:39

praying on the individuals living in

13:41

these dangerous neighborhoods. Indeed,

13:44

so we talked about Baltimore, but you know,

13:46

I gotta ask you as far as Chicago, Um,

13:49

I know that your homicides are up fifty and

13:52

shootings are up sixty three compared

13:54

to what you had going on in two thousand nineteen.

13:58

Its routine for several dozen people to

14:00

be shot over any given weekend,

14:02

and we watched that play out. And I know, I see

14:04

on Twitter all the time just that the

14:06

amount of numbers coming out of Chicago as

14:08

far as shootings, I just gotta ask, what

14:10

are people in Chicago saying about

14:12

the spike in violets. You

14:15

know what, can I gotta tell you, Chicago

14:17

is my home, has been my home forever

14:20

in a day. I will always rep Chicago as

14:22

hard as I can. I grew up on the South Side of

14:24

Chicago, se hard, seventy second

14:26

in Dorchester, A hundred and nineteenth in Michigan, all

14:29

over the South Side of Chicago. Love

14:31

the city to this day, but I

14:33

am horrified. I

14:36

am horrified by what I see there on

14:38

a day to day basis, and

14:40

I'm actually piste the hell

14:42

off. I'm pissed the hell off for

14:44

a number of reasons in general,

14:47

but I'm piste the hell off, but specifically

14:50

around something that just happened recently in

14:52

my family's life. Last weekend, I

14:55

was in Italy. I got a call from my little sister

14:57

on a Saturday, Apparently that Friday

15:00

night, she was walking with her infant

15:02

child from the grocery store, infant

15:05

child and two

15:07

people approached her, no interactions

15:10

with him beforehand, and

15:12

they approached her, a man and a woman,

15:15

both adults, and they beat

15:17

the hell out of her, pushed it to the

15:19

ground, kicked her in her face, kicked in her stomach,

15:21

her body, while her child was

15:23

there, her infant child, he's only like what three

15:26

or four months old, And then they

15:28

pulled a gun out on her and they said,

15:30

we will kill you and your

15:32

child. She thankfully

15:36

lived, but so many people in that same situation,

15:38

only by God's grace, but so many people in that

15:40

same situation would have been killed,

15:43

no question about it, and and

15:45

and never probably would have received

15:47

justice for it. That Chicago Sometimes

15:49

just came out with an analysis showing that

15:52

since ten since

15:54

twenty sixteen, over a thousand

15:57

shooting victims a hundred and six

15:59

that died, there were only two

16:02

convictions, two out

16:04

of over a thousand. I think that number was a thousand

16:07

thirty three I think was the actual number

16:09

for the analysis. But since this

16:12

is the justice, that they're getting, no

16:14

justice at all, and meanwhile,

16:17

it I think hardens the criminal.

16:20

If I'm not gonna get convicted for it, if I'm not

16:22

gonna face any any real charges

16:24

for why wouldn't I Why wouldn't I walk

16:26

down the street with an a K forty seven? Why wouldn't

16:28

I go and attack somebody just randomly,

16:30

which is something that used to actually do when I

16:33

was. I was growing up. At times you'll see kids

16:35

that would jump on you at the bus, but you weren't

16:37

losing your life per se.

16:39

They may beat the beat you up, or they may

16:41

try to rob you or something. But this

16:44

is a whole different beast, and

16:46

it's a satanic one it at that. So

16:49

yeah, I'm really upset by how

16:51

the direction of my city. I think the County

16:54

prosecutor she is a big part

16:56

of the problem. She's a big part of the

16:58

problem. That's why so much bloo hut in the streets of Chicago

17:01

because she's letting the criminals off. Twenty

17:03

five thousand felony cases dropped, including

17:06

murders under her leadership. This

17:09

is not an American city anymore, as a third

17:11

world country with some

17:13

good people living in it. And it's it's just really

17:16

insane, and it's shameful where we are

17:18

at it's time in our country. And it's even more

17:20

shameful that people like the Biden administration

17:23

who said that they were gonna be advocates

17:25

for for those who feel like they've

17:27

been left out of the American dream, they're not

17:29

advocates for the people in Baltimore. They're not

17:32

advocates for the people in Chicago. Joe Joe

17:34

Biden is an advocate for any of

17:36

those people. He may be an

17:38

advocate for those who are coming in over our southern

17:40

boarder, the migrants that are coming

17:42

over here bringing thousands of cases of COVID,

17:44

he may be an advocate for them. In fact, he's

17:47

probably their president, because that seems

17:49

to be the only folks that he cares about. When

17:51

you have American citizens who

17:53

are suffering on a day to day basis

17:55

in places like Chicago and Baltimore, it's

17:58

ridiculous. It's upsetting, and

18:00

I cannot stand this ish

18:02

anymore. I'm very disappointed. I

18:04

am so sorry that your cousin, I mean

18:06

your family and my little sister,

18:09

my my blood little sister. Oh my

18:11

gosh, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

18:13

I'm glad that she's okay. I guess

18:15

the prosecutor there is, is that Kim Fox?

18:18

Yeah, that's Kim Fox's county. Yes.

18:21

So what are Chicago's liberal political

18:23

leaders and people like Kim Fox, the prosecutors,

18:26

what are they doing to reverse this trend? I

18:30

mean, we've they've been trying to reverse the

18:32

trend. And look, let me not saying

18:34

that they've not necessarily been trying to reverse

18:36

the trend. They've been saying they're trying to reverse the

18:38

trend. However, as I

18:40

mentioned, if you're gonna drop twenty

18:42

five thousand felony cases, including

18:45

murder, then that tells me

18:48

uh and her predecessor closed way

18:50

more cases and had more convictions than than

18:52

Kim Fox. That tells me you're

18:54

not a part of the selution, You're part

18:56

of the problem. So how we

18:58

reverse the trend? New leadership? Get

19:01

rid of the county prosecutor, bringing

19:03

somebody who's gonna be tough on crime. That

19:05

can be a Republican or even a Democrat.

19:08

You can have sensible policies that

19:10

that can be supportive of those who want

19:12

to have second chances, that were willing to put in

19:14

the work, but punish the criminals and especially

19:17

those repeat offenders. You can.

19:19

You can do all of that as a

19:21

county prosecutor. Ours just isn't

19:23

And the mayor is another person the

19:26

blame game that she's doing. Oh,

19:29

violence is so bad in Chicago because of racism

19:32

and sexism and people, you

19:34

know, it's just ridiculous, Like, I

19:36

don't know if these people are ready to start working at MSNBC

19:39

or what these talking points are really for. But

19:42

it makes no sense, it's not based in fact.

19:44

And I think a lot of Chicagoans,

19:46

a lot of Chicagoans are upset

19:49

with the leadership of these folks and I can

19:51

only hope, I can only hope

19:53

that they're gonna do the right thing when it comes to election

19:55

time. Yeah, I mean, I hope so too. In

19:57

Baltimore, just to give every to

20:00

feel for this, in Baltimore City,

20:03

of the homicides are ever solved in

20:05

Baltimore County, the neighboring county where

20:07

we have a moderate Democratic attorney,

20:11

of those homicides get solved, and so

20:13

you have to look at it and say, it is definitely

20:16

leader. Them get solved

20:18

in Baltimore County, only gets

20:21

solved in Baltimore City. And

20:23

that's like I said, they're neighboring county.

20:25

So it's crazy and it's definitely

20:27

comes on to leadership. What do

20:30

you think is causing the surgeon crime

20:32

in Chicago? Do you think that's part of the defund

20:34

the police movement? You know, it's interesting

20:37

when it comes to the defund the police movement,

20:39

I think if we're just purely

20:41

looking at the numbers. Just overall in

20:43

the country, sixty three of the

20:45

sixty six largest police jurisdiction

20:48

saw increases in crime, and

20:50

at least one category. If you

20:52

saw the Fox News polling, it

20:54

showed eventy seven percent I believe it

20:56

was, but it was in the seventies seventy percentile.

20:59

Believe that there is much more crime

21:01

than that was last year and probably

21:04

has been in many, many

21:06

years decades. I mean, the last

21:08

time we saw a crime like this, I think, really

21:10

and truly was during the crack epidemic.

21:13

I think in the eighties the nineties,

21:15

especially in Chicago inner cities. We saw how badly

21:17

those cities were beaten

21:20

up by the drug dealers

21:22

and the gangs that were controlling the market

21:25

of drugs. We saw how how those

21:27

things impacted cities like Los Angeles.

21:30

We saw it in New York, we saw it in Baltimore, we

21:32

saw it in Chicago. But things did

21:35

change and get better at

21:37

a point. But now it seems as

21:39

though we're back on that trend, which is

21:41

completely unfortunate. But Democrats

21:44

have themselves to blame. Honestly, George

21:47

Floyd Dyan was not a mission slip

21:49

to say we're gonna defund the police, or

21:51

we're gonna create an environment where

21:53

criminals can kind of do their thing and

21:55

and decriminalized crime, if

21:57

you will, that's the term, right, criminalized

22:00

crime. That's where we are

22:03

now. Democrats across the country

22:05

have decriminalized crime. Therefore,

22:07

you see places like San Francisco where they go into

22:10

Walgreens with garbage bags

22:13

steal everything off the chef while people watch,

22:15

because they have laws in place which says

22:17

you can't you can't even call. But I don't know if it's

22:19

you can't call the police, but you definitely can't get involved

22:22

while they're still in you gotta let them go.

22:24

It's this insanity on every level

22:27

and not worthy to be in any American

22:29

city. So when I think about polaces like Chicago to

22:32

defund policeman movement, it's

22:34

the mentality that even

22:36

elevates criminals, the fact

22:38

that they know that the police um

22:41

either won't come or if

22:44

they call, they're called, they won't be They

22:46

won't even engage the criminal. In

22:48

some cases, there's a law on the books in Chicago,

22:50

a recent one which was a part of their police

22:52

reform, where they can't even they can't even

22:55

chase criminals now, and criminals

22:57

can make anonymous complaints about

22:59

police officers and they can lose everything

23:01

with no evidence at all, no facts. They can make anonymous

23:04

complaints to you know, police brutality,

23:07

et cetera, and they'll lose their

23:09

jobs with no uh, with with

23:11

no evidence. And that's where we

23:13

are in this country. And it's a terrible time.

23:16

So it really is, and that's what we have

23:18

going on here also in Baltimore. Absolutely

23:21

absolutely that we need to get to

23:24

a commercial break, But I hope

23:26

you all enjoying the conversation. I'm

23:28

certainly glad to have Kim

23:31

co host this with me, and I'm

23:33

really glad that we're able to really talk about

23:35

these issues and not that she has this

23:37

this pack red renaissance. Kim

23:40

is endorsing and putting candidates

23:42

in place who will fund

23:44

the police, who will be supportive

23:47

of criminal justice reform and second

23:49

chances, but also understand that

23:52

those who are repeat offenders, you're

23:54

losing your second chances the more you do this, so

23:56

you're gonna have to be tough and face the full

23:58

penalty of whatever you did. So

24:01

I appreciate the conversation. We

24:03

need the policy here for a quick break, but when we

24:05

come back, Kim and I will dig into the problems

24:08

with education in Baltimore, in Chicago, back

24:10

in the moment. So

24:13

it's no secret that inner cities have notoriously

24:16

bad education systems with failing

24:18

public schools. You can look no further

24:21

than Baltimore to see just how

24:23

devastating an impact these schools

24:25

have on the community. So what I

24:27

did is I went and I got some exclusive audio

24:30

to talk to someone in Baltimore

24:32

City basically dealing with

24:35

the poor education system tasical.

24:37

Listen, I feel like there's no hope for our

24:39

kids. I mean, I have a family, I

24:42

have nephews that's in high school right now, and

24:47

a Baltimore public high school students earn

24:49

a below one point

24:51

g p A. How

24:54

is that? How is that helping our kids? How

24:57

can our kids go forward? And

25:00

there's no hope, there's no hope

25:02

for our kids, and we need to do something. That

25:05

is just so depressing to hear from

25:07

a resident of Baltimore. I

25:10

mean, what do you think when you hear such hopelessness?

25:13

You know, it's it's I

25:15

think it's been a reality for

25:19

people in the black community for decades.

25:22

I think that's one of the reasons why

25:24

there's been so many people who champion charter

25:27

schools. There's a charter school in Chicago.

25:29

It's called Urban Prep, and it

25:32

Urban Prep. This is mostly

25:34

black, but they have like Latino students

25:36

too, and that I know they had some white students

25:39

that came in at a particular time. But I went to

25:41

the school to check it out for myself. Because

25:43

their biggest thing or play

25:45

is and what they're celebrated

25:47

for is they get a hundred graduation.

25:51

They have a hundred percent graduation rate. So those

25:53

who come into the school, they

25:55

stick with them. They do tutor

25:58

sessions, they give individual learning,

26:01

and they ensure that these students

26:03

graduate. Now, these aren't folks that they're just passing

26:06

along. Because you hear that, you're like, oh, so

26:08

they must be just saying, okay, participation

26:10

trophy, you get to go to you get to graduated

26:12

high school and get your diploma. Now they're really really

26:15

working with the students to ensure their individual

26:17

success. And I think charter schools

26:20

are supreme model for

26:22

good education and individual learning.

26:25

Was because some of these charter schools end up being

26:28

trade schools and we've got some brilliant

26:31

young people across the country, of course,

26:33

but there's so much I

26:36

think smarts in the hood, if

26:38

you will. I think there's a lot of kids

26:40

who may not be proficient, but they're

26:42

very smart people and could be so. In Chicago,

26:45

UH, Chicago public schools

26:48

of elementary schools tested at or

26:50

above the proficiency level for

26:52

reading and tested or

26:55

above that level from math. Also,

26:58

middle school students tested at

27:00

or above the proficiency level for reading

27:03

and tested at

27:05

or above that level for math. Eighteen percent

27:07

for high school students test to add above that proficient

27:10

level for reading, test

27:12

to edder above that proficient level from math.

27:15

Those are horrible numbers. I mean,

27:17

I if I was married Chicago,

27:20

I would be embarrassed that I got

27:22

all these students in

27:25

in my in my city who aren't

27:27

even testing well at the proficiency

27:29

level. This is an embarrassment

27:32

in every way. This is exactly

27:34

why the h we

27:36

gotta break the backs of these teachers unions

27:39

who are secured UH

27:41

from being fired in many cases, and

27:44

they're awful teachers. We got some great

27:46

teachers out there to go out there way. They spend their own money,

27:48

they go by their own supplies, they do. They tutor

27:51

kids after school with no additional

27:53

pay. We got some who really care about

27:55

young minds, but we also got a lot who don't

27:57

care, and they just want to get a check. And

28:00

this is beyond unfortunate

28:02

that has been allowed to continue.

28:05

But we know why it's been allowed to continue.

28:08

Eat your unions give to democratic

28:10

politicians. Democratic politicians mostly

28:12

run major urban centers, and

28:15

those folks allow for these

28:17

failures to continue, thereby

28:20

creating another generation

28:23

of individuals who will never live up

28:26

to their fullest potential. And that's

28:28

what's really upsetting for me. Yeah,

28:30

and it's upsetting. And we have similar numbers

28:33

here in Baltimore. A lot of people don't know

28:35

this, but in Baltimore City, nine out of

28:37

ten Black boys and not read at grade

28:39

level. Nine out of ten. Yeah,

28:41

Sean Handy talks about it a lot, but people don't

28:43

really mention it. But not out of ten

28:46

black boys can't read at grade

28:48

level. That's an insane number. I

28:50

know. That's I don't like to I

28:53

would think that that would be almost impossible.

28:56

Nine out of ten, you would think so, But

28:58

you know what's so crazy too, And I don't know

29:00

how it is in Chicago. But here in Baltimore

29:03

City. You know, most school boards,

29:05

you elect your school board members. Right in

29:08

Baltimore, the mayor actually appoints

29:10

the school board members. And so of course

29:13

it's our our Democrat mayor who appoints

29:15

basically their friends that continue

29:18

on with the same agenda that they want to push

29:20

and help them get the vendor contractors

29:22

for their other friends. And so

29:24

it's this vicious cycle, and it's it's

29:26

almost like the parents have no way

29:28

of controlling what's going on. And so

29:31

you know, when I ran for office, I ran on

29:33

school choice, and it was interesting

29:35

because there were a lot of parents

29:37

that were for it, um,

29:40

but you know, I don't think they felt like it was possible.

29:42

And I could see how you could feel that way,

29:45

uh, just seeing how bad the school

29:47

system has been, you know, their entire lives.

29:50

Um. But what's your personal experience

29:53

with the school system in Chicago.

29:56

I mean I grew up there

29:58

and went to elementary school, high school

30:00

there. Uh, I

30:03

gotta tell you, just like I said, when I was

30:05

growing up, there was some I thought there were some teachers

30:07

that they cared, but you see a lot that just

30:09

simply there for a paycheck. I remember when I was

30:12

I had to be in what third

30:14

grade? Yeah, I think I was in third grade.

30:17

I was a good low elementary school. Was

30:19

that third grade or fourth? Maybe

30:21

it was fourth, I don't know, maybe it was fourth

30:23

or fifth whatever, But I never forget

30:25

this day. I was in a classroom

30:28

in this particular teacher. He didn't

30:31

he he was telling me that, you know, kind of settle

30:33

down, stop talking, or whatever the case

30:35

is. And I was never

30:37

the kind of kid that would talk back to

30:39

the teachers because I grew up in the house where

30:42

we were told you have to respect adults, no

30:44

matter who they are, so you

30:46

know, and then you have the respect for your teachers.

30:48

Anyway, they teach you every day and you get sent to the principal

30:50

office some kind of punishments, dispension. So I

30:53

didn't want any of that. And I think I may

30:55

have been suspended in school maybe

30:57

one time in my life, maybe, I think. But

31:00

this teacher who

31:02

was so offended for

31:05

whatever reason, decided to

31:07

take come to me, pick

31:10

me up by my shirt. I'm a little kid, and

31:12

throw me on the desk, and I'm like, you

31:15

know, I'm a kid. I can and I'm not gonna try to fight

31:17

a teacher. This guy was in his he was in his

31:19

twenties and I was a kid. But you

31:21

teend, you tend to see those kind of things

31:24

happen. And he literally he

31:26

had graduated college not that long ago

31:28

before he had started teaching, maybe like a year

31:30

or two before. And I'm like, dude, why

31:33

are you even here as a teacher like

31:35

you commend violence against students and a

31:38

young a very young one at that isn't it would

31:40

be different if you're in high school and you're a senior

31:43

and one of the kids trying to get tough with you

31:45

or something like that. I can understand it

31:47

going there, but not for somebody

31:50

who's like ten years old. So

31:52

those kind of things do happen, and it is

31:55

super unfortunate. But that's where we've been

31:57

for many, many years. So when you talk about the folks

31:59

in Balti More who don't believe the

32:01

school choice can happen, it's

32:03

because the politicians

32:06

there have have chosen that route. So

32:09

there are a lot more hopeless in places

32:11

like Baltimore in Chicago that they're

32:13

going to get a good quality education because they

32:15

know the teachers unions have

32:17

everything on lock. And the

32:19

bad teachers no matter just about

32:22

whatever they do, they stay in their jobs

32:24

because the union is protecting them. And that

32:26

that's discouraging for parents, I think, all across the

32:28

country to know that and to know

32:31

what is being taught in these schools these days.

32:34

No, I totally agree. I can't believe

32:36

he was doing that to you at elementary level. That's

32:38

why that was well.

32:40

And I wish I remember his name. I

32:42

got a lawsuit coming.

32:45

I don't remember. He

32:47

probably is no longer a teacher there. He may have

32:49

lasted for a couple of years. Maybe I don't

32:52

know, or yeah, yeah I just

32:54

got fired. I don't know, and maybe, but I

32:56

doubt he got fired, so he's

32:58

Uh. It's terrible times. But this happens

33:00

a lot across the urban centers

33:03

and sometimes kids do take it there.

33:05

But as an adult, you should know a

33:08

kid as a kid. So leave it alone and

33:10

let the let the police deal with it is

33:12

what they should be doing. Yeah, No,

33:14

for real, And I just wanted to read a

33:16

quote real quick. The late Walter Williams

33:19

of George Mason University once wrote

33:21

the following in two thousands sixteen in

33:24

thirteen of Baltimore thirty nine high

33:26

schools that a single student scored

33:28

proficient on the state's and mathematics

33:30

exam. Citywide, only

33:32

fifteen percent of Baltimore students past

33:34

the state's English test. And

33:36

here's the critical part. Money is

33:39

not the problem of the nation's

33:41

one largest school system.

33:44

Baltimore ranks third,

33:46

and spending per pupil, that's third,

33:49

so we're right behind. I think it goes

33:52

New York City, Boston, Baltimore,

33:54

and um, you know, it's just wild to me that

33:56

we get so much money. But how can

33:58

the education se be feeling

34:01

so much if it received so much

34:03

funding, Like, how does that even make any sense? Yeah,

34:06

I think I think you clearly laid it out

34:09

for us, Kim when you talked about

34:11

especially you being kind of inner

34:13

circle in terms of being a political understanding

34:16

the Baltimore politics. I think a lot of Republicans

34:18

don't understand Baltimore's politics.

34:21

And as part of the reason why

34:24

when you ran, people trying

34:26

to write you off as like a gimmick

34:28

and oh yeah, she did a couple of videos

34:31

that Trump posted. Now she's gonna try to

34:33

run for Baltimore and nobody's gonna vote for you.

34:35

But then you created a movement right now, but

34:38

I think you you you set it up for us perfectly

34:40

in terms of how the corruption takes place.

34:43

Follow the money. Follow the money

34:46

every time. Uh, these

34:48

folks get into office and then they give

34:50

their friends these kickbacks, these deals, and as

34:52

you said, they do it for the vendor privileges,

34:55

give million dollar contracts, and

34:57

a lot of times these are their their donors.

35:00

So yeah, where's the money. Where's the money going

35:02

in the pockets of the vendors and the donors and

35:05

the donors who donate to get these folks

35:07

in office and they get these contracts. Meanwhile,

35:10

Uh, the unions are still winning big

35:13

time. Meanwhile, the mayor

35:15

can say that they care, but you don't see the

35:17

substance of them caring to change

35:20

things around. In places like Chicago

35:22

and Baltimore, it's more empty promises

35:24

and no action there there lifting

35:27

their duties and they fell in their residence.

35:30

Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean we get close to

35:32

sixteen thousand dollars per student

35:35

in Baltimore City. That's why we're the third highest

35:37

per people spending. And we still

35:39

have schools where they don't have heat air conditioning,

35:42

and they're still dealing with lead pipes. Uh.

35:44

So there's a lot of schools, especially on the West

35:46

Side, where kids can't even drink out of the water fountains.

35:50

Um. So yeah, I mean we're getting a ton

35:52

of money, but who knows where just going.

35:54

I don't know. Yeah, it wasn't it some years

35:56

ago, if I recall correctly, some years ago,

35:58

there was a study

36:01

or it was like a maybe like a local

36:03

TV reporter, local news

36:05

station went into a school and it was it

36:07

was like in a winner and they didn't have he'd

36:11

what was that situation? And has that been rectified?

36:14

Yeah? So that was our our last mayor she

36:16

was in office, Mayor Katherine Pugh, who's

36:18

you know, later was indicted for pay to play.

36:21

Um. But in other words, to

36:24

your point, to your

36:26

point, literally

36:28

demonstrate what you just said. Okay, got it

36:30

right. And so it was wild because

36:33

one of the teachers in one of the schools

36:35

posted this picture that went viral of

36:37

all the students sitting there with their winter coats

36:39

on, and then she took like a picture of the thermostat

36:42

showing that it was sixteen degrees in the classroom.

36:45

And so because that went viral, and you

36:48

know, social media is good, you know, in a lot

36:50

of ways. Because that went viral. Then

36:52

everybody started questioning what was going on,

36:55

and um, she said, oh it must

36:57

be the school board is is not making the right

36:59

decision. So instead of actually

37:01

changing out members of the school board, she

37:04

actually added four more seats to

37:06

the school board so she could appoint

37:08

four more friends. Yeah,

37:13

well, I think Rama Manue will say the best. Never

37:16

let what do you how do you say, never let chaos

37:18

go to waste? What man Never

37:21

let a good a good crisis go

37:23

to waste good crisis? Clearly

37:27

she said, man I see more opportunity

37:29

to make money, and so yeah,

37:32

and and and and the results where she went

37:34

to jail afterwards.

37:38

Yeah, she went to jail for a little bit and then they released

37:40

her thanks to the pandemic. Oh

37:43

wow, yeah, we

37:46

got out. Speaking

37:48

of COVID, let's shift the latest

37:50

with the pandemic. Right after a quick break, Welcome

37:58

back to Outline with Giano called but I'm

38:00

so excited to have my dear friend co host

38:02

the show with me. The only repeat

38:04

guest ever out of almost

38:07

fifty episodes, Kimberly

38:09

Clasic is in the house and

38:12

certainly glad to have her give

38:15

her vast knowledge on the issues

38:17

that people care about that are impacting families

38:20

across the country, and

38:23

really putting the Democratic Party's

38:25

failure on display.

38:27

A lot of folks, uh didn't

38:29

realize how badly some of these cities

38:32

were running and performing,

38:35

and you exposed it all in a

38:37

campaign that so I'm so so

38:39

happy to be here with you. And before

38:41

we went to break, before you tossed us to break,

38:43

we were talking about uh. You mentioned the

38:46

mayor and who was released, the former

38:48

mayor of Baltimore who went to jail for pay

38:50

to play, and she was released early

38:53

for COVID. So you know, it's

38:55

it's interesting that we're now talking

38:57

about COVID in a lot of ways.

39:00

I know, there was a lot of folks who felt like,

39:02

man, most of the country is now vaccinated,

39:05

we can finally give it to the mass and go back

39:07

to our lives as we used to live

39:09

them. I was happy about it. I

39:11

was excited. I'm sure a lot of the people were.

39:14

And we were told by Joe Biden and

39:17

Dr Anthony Fauci, once you

39:19

get vaccinated, you can get rid of the mask,

39:21

go back to your life, encourage your family to get

39:24

vaccinated or I

39:26

remember when they said, well, if you hit COVID before

39:28

then you're gonna have this natural immunity to

39:31

you won't be able to get it again. Or you

39:33

you it's just like that's what It's just

39:35

like being vaccinated. And then

39:38

everything turned. It's like the messaging

39:40

at the c d C, the White House,

39:43

local government officials is

39:45

all over the place, and

39:47

we saw what benefits

39:50

they received. And I hate to

39:52

say it like this, but it's true. We

39:54

saw what benefits that they received

39:57

in the last election by virtue of locking

40:00

down the entire country, ensuring

40:02

there was mass mail in voting. Uh,

40:05

they did a number of things. And

40:07

now we're at a place where soon

40:09

enough we're gonna be going into another

40:11

election in the fear

40:15

of COVID and the new delta

40:18

variant as being dialed

40:20

up tremendously. So no one really

40:22

knows what may happen again, or

40:25

if the country is gonna

40:27

shut down again and go back into a depression

40:30

after all of what we experienced.

40:33

What are your thoughts on that, Kimberly,

40:36

So for me, it's very personal,

40:38

you know, Like you know, I ran for Congress

40:41

in Maryland seventh and um, you

40:43

know here in Maryland we allow

40:47

unsolicited mail in ballots, and this is

40:49

something that Governor Ron De Santis is trying

40:51

to tackle in Florida right now, we

40:53

have supposedly a Republican governor and

40:55

Governor Hogan, but he's not

40:58

doing anything about it. When you have unsolicited

41:00

mail in ballots come in, it's not like absentee

41:02

ballots. It's you know, these ballots come anywhere.

41:05

Um, it could be a former resident

41:08

of a home and that new resident could just fill

41:10

it out and send it back in the way they want to.

41:13

And then also, unfortunately Maryland,

41:15

ballot harvesting is legal, so

41:17

we had a lot of people on my opponent's

41:19

side that would go to nursing homes and other

41:22

areas and literally just collect ballots

41:24

for people. And so when you have unsolicited

41:26

mail in ballots, if if they wanted to

41:29

help somebody that didn't receive a ballot with

41:31

another ballot, they could just basically

41:33

request one or even just pick up

41:36

another one to fill it out for them. So on

41:38

election night, we thought it was gonna be a

41:40

pretty good night, but the very next day we

41:43

had a lot of mail in ballots counted and

41:45

we actually ended up with more mail

41:47

in ballots than we did voters in

41:50

our Yeah, so

41:52

so it allows people to basically

41:55

get into fraudulent activity.

41:57

But that's something that we should have been tackling in

41:59

the meantime. And so, now, like you

42:01

said, we see COVID coming back, they

42:04

just continue to move the goal post. Right, And we

42:06

first heard about it, it was, oh, we gotta flatten

42:08

the curve. Right, it was flatten the curve for two weeks

42:11

that it was this and was that, Like you said, the vaccine.

42:13

Now they're telling us, oh, the vaccine doesn't

42:15

really work. Still got to wear a mask. Oh, now

42:18

you know, unvaccinated people, they must

42:20

go and get a vaccine. Like you know, they

42:22

continue to move the goal post because I do

42:24

think now they are looking at two

42:27

they're looking at the fact that they didn't do anything to secure

42:29

the border. Like we talked about, crime and violence

42:32

is out of control when Democrat areas. So

42:34

it's not looking very good for them. And

42:36

even when it came to the COVID relief

42:38

bill, there's a lot of money that is still caught

42:41

up in that and didn't really make it to those

42:43

in need. And so if you look at

42:45

it, the administration the Body administration didn't

42:47

accomplish a whole lot. So I guess

42:49

to them, why not take advantage

42:51

of another election with COVID.

42:54

Yeah, I think I think that's I think that's a really

42:56

important point. And I also want to point out

42:58

that the unemployment rates in califern Fownia,

43:00

in New York, which it was at eight point

43:02

five percent, in California eight point

43:04

nine percent, and uh New

43:06

York remained significantly higher

43:09

in February than the national six point

43:11

to average. Unemployment in New

43:14

York City was still at

43:16

twelve point nine percent. But

43:18

yeah, the the real issue,

43:20

I think for a lot of folks is now what

43:24

do they do. We were supposed

43:26

to be, not necessarily in a post COVID world.

43:28

We're supposed to be in a place where

43:31

we have the solution to the problem, which

43:33

was the vaccine. Now we have a different

43:35

variant. They're talking about passports,

43:38

uh COVID passports, which I think it's really

43:41

ridiculous. Like we went from you

43:43

can't and I know people have made this point, but

43:45

yeah, you know, we we can't us get

43:48

be identified to have somebody with an I D to

43:50

go and vote. But yeah, we're gonna get your health

43:52

record passport like it's kind of ridiculous

43:55

and it's stupid in that way. I don't

43:57

think that it should be anyone's business

43:59

if person is vaccinated or not, unless

44:01

they want to tell them that if

44:04

you are a person that's overweight,

44:06

if your person is obese, if your person would pre

44:08

existing conditions, then perhaps

44:10

you should be one that wears a mask. Definitely

44:12

get vaccinated, because those

44:14

are a big bulk of the people

44:17

who died from COVID last year and this

44:19

year. Those who were have the preexisting conditions

44:22

or overweight or obese,

44:25

and with where we are now,

44:28

it appears to be a lot of government overreach

44:30

and dealing with what the issue

44:33

truly is. It's you shouldn't require

44:35

citizens to make a medical

44:37

decision for themselves and unless

44:39

also keep in mind some people have

44:42

reportedly died after

44:45

they receive their shots, and I'm not trying

44:47

to make people hesitant from getting

44:49

the shot. I'm not. I'm not trying to be

44:51

the boogeyman on that issue, but

44:53

there are people who are concerned about

44:56

their health because this pick.

44:58

These shots have emergency

45:00

authorization, but they've not been FDA approved,

45:03

So some people want to ensure

45:05

that the FDA has fully approved it.

45:07

Not only that for those who already have had

45:10

COVID, they're following the science.

45:12

And I saw a friend of mine just yesterday

45:14

he said, listen, I don't I don't need to go get vaccinated.

45:16

I had COVID. I'm gonna follow the

45:19

science. Which the Democratic Party used to be

45:21

the Party of science. I'm

45:23

guessing that was just a facade at this point

45:25

because they're not following the advice

45:28

that was then put out and a number

45:30

of times from a number of doctors, just like

45:32

when Trump said, hey, um,

45:35

if you get the hydra coded Quinn,

45:37

this is called it. It's a Z pack. Again,

45:40

I can't think of how to pronounce him anyway, when he said,

45:42

hey, you take this and and

45:44

and and the survival rate is better, and

45:47

all the reporters, the media and even

45:50

a number of doctors came out

45:52

against that, and he turned

45:54

out to be right. The survival rate I think increased

45:58

or something like that after people would

46:00

have that that particular

46:02

medicine. And just imagine how many people

46:04

would have been saved. Head the media

46:07

not ridiculed President

46:09

Trump for saying something that ended up being true. We could

46:11

have saved a lot of lots, So people are really

46:13

following the science anymore, and it's

46:15

more political in a lot of cases

46:18

than it is science based. And that's what's

46:20

really troubling now. A live decisions

46:22

are being dictated based on the politics

46:25

of a governor or a mayor,

46:27

and that's insane, No, it

46:29

is, and it's so crazy about it. I'm one of

46:31

those people where I'm listening to my doctor,

46:34

so I see an asthma and allergy

46:36

specialist once a month just

46:38

because I always have dealt with asthma really

46:40

bad, and apparently

46:43

with the vaccine, they have been seeing

46:45

respiratory issues. So I

46:47

was told to wait and to

46:49

kind of see what happens with other people

46:52

dealing with the same issues that I have. So I personally

46:55

have not been vaccinated UM. I also

46:57

had COVID right when it we

46:59

really started talking about it. That was in

47:02

what was it, March when

47:04

I had UM and so

47:06

yeah, we were told that we wouldn't have the antibodies.

47:09

I don't know if they said forever obviously,

47:12

but no, I know the risk as

47:14

somebody that's not vaccinated, and

47:17

I personally choose to take the

47:19

risk instead of choosing to take the vaccine,

47:22

not knowing if it's going to trigger a

47:24

n asthma attack and have a bad effect. So

47:27

I'm gonna listen to my doctor before I listened

47:29

to Joe Biden to

47:35

like a smart decision. Listening to Joe Biden

47:37

these days it's not worth while. And

47:39

half the time he doesn't even know he's president, so

47:41

we it's tough

47:43

to try to listen to Joe Biden no much

47:46

of anything, and it's it

47:48

seems as the other media has been protecting him

47:50

on all his his uh

47:52

his his misspeaking to put

47:55

it mildly, because some of his

47:57

laws is not a miss misspoke situation.

48:00

Uh. And I'm I'm sure with all the

48:02

new information coming in about about the delta

48:05

variant, are you more concerned

48:07

than you were about COVID previously

48:09

because they said this is a stronger

48:12

variation of the original

48:14

strain of COVID. Are you concerned? I

48:16

mean, I definitely think about it. You know, I travel

48:19

with my pack every week, and so

48:21

I meet a lot of new people all the time. But

48:23

that's right, because you do events multiple times a week.

48:26

Yeah, so I but I also get tested often

48:29

too, so because you have to travel correct,

48:32

and you know, the last thing I want is to like

48:34

give any kind of variant to somebody

48:37

else, so exactly,

48:40

and you know, I have a five year old daughter as well, so

48:44

we got to just keep you know, track of it. But

48:46

you know, that's how I choose to live my life.

48:48

And I'm fine with that. And hopefully

48:51

if I get it proved to go and get the vaccine,

48:53

I will. But for right now,

48:56

think about it with Joe Biden in his town hall,

48:58

what was that two weeks ago he was

49:00

telling people on stage, Look, if you

49:02

get vaccinated, you can live life normally.

49:05

And literally within days, he

49:07

completely changed his chune about

49:09

it. Yeah, and that's we

49:11

don't need that kind of leadership, especially when there's

49:14

a public health emergency.

49:16

And let's also keep in mind Joe Biden

49:18

ran on the platform that Donald

49:20

Trump mishandled COVID, and

49:23

I'm gonna being honest, there was some I

49:25

don't think he he took it seriously

49:27

in the way, but when he came at the hospital, I just

49:29

thought he did too much. Like

49:32

that should have been his point where he's like, you know what, there

49:35

is a serious disease. Folks,

49:37

wear your masks etcetera, etcetera. And I

49:39

gave the Democrats and the media

49:41

more uh more soundbites

49:44

for them to play over and over and say that he didn't take

49:46

it seriously. So I thought when he came

49:48

out at President Trump came at the hospital, when he did

49:50

the one on the balcony of the White House

49:53

with all the music and the sound, that was like,

49:55

bro, you're doing don my old question

49:59

doing the most. Yeah, you see,

50:01

he could not breathe up there right

50:05

for air. I was really nervous

50:07

because of course I think asthma immediately. Um.

50:11

But yeah, no, I think he probably

50:13

could have done a little bit more to say, look, you

50:15

know what, I got vaccinated and

50:17

and it is serious and something

50:20

that we should all just stop politicizing.

50:22

But yeah, I look at it as President

50:24

Trump, no matter what he says or does, he's

50:27

going to get bashed. So yeah,

50:29

that's that's been the case. But he's

50:32

also given some reasons to bash him

50:34

too. I think that would be one of them. And as much

50:36

as I would support the policies in which he

50:38

passed on the number of occasions, I'm still willing

50:41

to call him out wherever necessary, because

50:43

that was just not that was

50:45

awful. That was awful.

50:48

But but that's here

50:50

nor there. What do you make of people

50:53

with like New York Mirror Bill

50:55

de Blasio essentially saying unvaccinated

50:57

people won't have access to the same races

51:00

and freedoms is vaccinated people? What what

51:02

do you make of that? Um? I feel like that's

51:04

the new form. It's like modern day

51:06

segregation, right, I mean, it's

51:09

that's wild. I saw the mayor in Boston,

51:12

black woman Democrat, she said, how

51:14

is this any different than asking slaves

51:16

for their papers? Right? I mean it's

51:19

to me, it's it's segregation. It's like, okay,

51:21

here the unvaccinated, here the vaccinated.

51:23

They already seem to want to shame the

51:26

unvaccinated. I think

51:28

it's a personal choice, and I

51:30

don't think we should be taking it down this road.

51:32

But Mayor built a Blasio. I

51:34

mean, I've never shocked at the things that he

51:36

says and does. Yeah,

51:38

it's it's it's gotten to the point where we just

51:40

already know he's he lost

51:43

his way a long time ago. I don't think he ever really

51:45

had it. But you

51:47

know, don't get me wrong, there's some Democrats out

51:50

there where I'm like, man, this is a good part. I've had Democrats

51:52

on the show where I'm like, Okay, these are

51:54

good people. These are really cool people,

51:57

elected officials and everything. They're like good

51:59

hearts. They want to do the right thing. We may disagree

52:01

on politics or particular policy,

52:03

but they're good, good people, and you know, they're

52:06

well intentioned. And I don't know how well intentioned

52:08

build the Blasio is I I don't

52:10

necessarily see see that.

52:12

You don't force people to make medical decisions.

52:15

I just I'm just really against

52:18

that. In Democrats are supposed to be the party of choice,

52:21

and they're giving us no choice.

52:23

You know. I respect the person's desire,

52:26

which is not to get vaccinated, just like I respect

52:28

somebody who says I want to be vaccinated.

52:31

I've not been vaccinated. I've had COVID

52:33

before, So I'm okay, I'm

52:35

comfortable with not being vaccinated.

52:37

I'm not comfortable with being shamed for not

52:40

being vaccinated. And leaders like

52:42

you said they gotta stop throw the politics

52:44

away, just give us the science

52:47

and let us go on from there. You

52:49

know, it's a serious health issue, got

52:51

it? Uh Wuhan lab

52:54

likely came from the Uhan lab, the

52:56

one in which the the CCP certainly

52:59

UH probably unlikely head of

53:01

hand in just based on the reporting that we've

53:04

seen have has come out, and

53:06

certainly it was. If this

53:09

is the case, if the reporting gets correct

53:11

and accurate, that the

53:13

this came from the Juan lap UH,

53:16

then China certainly was looking to

53:18

decimate the U. S economy and whoever else,

53:20

And as a result of COVID and the lockdowns,

53:23

their economy will overtake

53:25

or at least is UH scheduled

53:28

or predicted to overtake the U. S economy

53:31

UH in this decade. So

53:34

with these different variants, I wonder you know where

53:36

could this have come from? But democratic

53:39

politicians are helping to stop the

53:41

progress of our country

53:43

economically, given China UH

53:46

front row seat, or rather in the driver's

53:48

seat if you will, to win

53:50

over us economically, which brings me to another

53:54

statement here. When the data is clear,

53:57

the red states that opened up from the lockdowns

53:59

quicker did better economically, as

54:02

Political reported in late June,

54:04

of the fifteen states that have returned

54:07

to pre pandemic levels of economic

54:09

activity to wherever I led by Republican

54:11

governors of the ten states reporting

54:13

the lowest level of economics activities since

54:15

January seven. I run by

54:17

democratic governors. Economics,

54:20

folks, it's it's you have to be able

54:22

to take care of your family. We cannot

54:25

live on the government. I know there's a lot of

54:27

folks who received a bunch of unemployment.

54:29

They may have gotten some p PP money.

54:31

And somebody that I know

54:34

I saw in l A recently

54:36

said, man, that was the most money that

54:38

I ever made on that unemployment. I wish they'll bring

54:41

it back. No, folks, we gotta

54:44

get back to self reliance, and we

54:46

have politicians who are creating

54:49

economic situation that is destructive

54:52

to families. What do you

54:54

think about what's going on with them shutting

54:56

down or have shut down and possibly

54:58

about to shut down local

55:01

governments or rather cities and states. Again,

55:03

what are you what's your your take on, Nick Camp? I

55:05

mean, it's a scary thought. Everything the

55:07

government has ever touched or run. I believe

55:09

it's just been a disaster. That can point

55:12

too many times in history where that's

55:14

happened. I think the biggest one is

55:16

in nineve where it really

55:19

affected the black community, and in my opinion,

55:21

is when basically the government asked

55:23

the black woman to marry the government rather

55:25

than the father of a child. Right, we saw basically

55:28

the welfare state come into play

55:30

and that has devastated our communities

55:32

since then. And then you compound that with

55:35

crime bill. It's just everything the government

55:37

touches to me just ends up being

55:40

more of an issue. And then they try to

55:42

say, oh, we need more money to fix

55:44

this issue, and that's what they run on. It's

55:47

the same old cycle and it never benefits.

55:49

I don't think we the people. I

55:51

mean right here in Maryland, we have

55:53

a lot of people that are still on unemployment because,

55:56

like your friends said, they're making more money sitting

55:58

home, and so we have some busy This is especially

56:00

the rest Maybe I misspoke.

56:03

Someone I know we

56:06

have is out of acquaintance

56:11

people be like them your Ganna Frians. No,

56:15

we have some restaurants here in Maryland

56:17

where they are having a hard time getting

56:19

people to come back to work because

56:21

they are making more money on unemployment.

56:23

Luckily, Governor Hogan is saying by September

56:26

one, uh, they're no longer going

56:28

to be given, you know, so much in unemployment

56:31

to make people come back to work. He ended

56:33

the eviction moratorium daying, look, landlords

56:36

need to pay their mortgage and so you got

56:38

to pay your rent. And that's how it should have been

56:40

from the get go. It should have never gotten

56:42

to this point. Of course, I think

56:44

I think like a Republican in that sense.

56:47

Um, But you know, for me, it's

56:50

just a no win. And we look at states

56:52

like Florida with Governor Rod de Santis,

56:54

and they were able to continue moving those

56:57

people down there seem to be doing just fine

56:59

with and things are, you know, as fine as

57:02

economically. We look at the delta variant

57:04

now and people are saying, oh, it's it's more

57:06

in Florida, Texas, and I believe

57:08

Louisiana. But I have to say

57:10

with that, we know it came in from out

57:12

of this country. I think they pinpointed

57:15

to India. But we have our southern

57:17

border wide open right now. When

57:19

I look at that, I'm like, well, is this really serious.

57:21

If it's really serious, why do

57:24

we have our southern border wide open? If it's

57:26

really serious, why didn't

57:28

we do anything in the meantime to prepare

57:30

us for possibly the variant and another

57:33

pandemic. I ran on basically

57:35

bringing the billion dollar medical equipment industry

57:37

back to the States, particularly through the

57:39

Baltimore City port, but we did

57:41

not do anything to beef

57:43

up our equipment industry as far as medicine

57:46

here during this entire time that we're

57:48

trying to rebuild from the pandemic. And

57:50

then you see President Joe Biden put out a tweet

57:53

saying, oh, We've got the most jobs

57:55

back on the market this past month, and it's like,

57:57

basically he just he's taken

58:00

it for jobs that are being replenished that we're

58:02

taking away in the beginning right there,

58:05

right, they're not new jobs, they're not new careers.

58:07

So it's it's a disaster to me. But maybe

58:10

that's just my take. No, I think

58:12

that's the take up a lot of other people. Very

58:14

cogent point. Now, I want to shift

58:17

now from the issues of the day to

58:19

what you're up to, Kim, and what

58:21

you got planning for the future. But first let's take

58:23

a quick break. Welcome

58:27

back to Ally with Giano Caldwell. I got

58:29

Kimberly Clasic co hosting the

58:31

show with me, first time ever doing

58:33

this. It's been quite fun,

58:36

certainly auspicious commentary.

58:40

This is one of the shows

58:42

that I think I'll forever remember because

58:45

I enjoy doing co hosting.

58:47

I really do. I'm actually co hosting

58:49

on a Fox News channel here

58:52

next week, but I really appreciate

58:54

having just the various viewpoints and being able

58:56

to kind of toss things back and forth with somebody.

58:59

So thank you for doing it, Kim. But I want to

59:01

before I let you go, ask the

59:03

question that everyone wants to know from

59:05

you, which is will you be

59:08

running for Congress again? Well,

59:10

first of all, thank you so much for having me today.

59:12

This has actually been a lot of fun being able

59:14

to just talk candidly. But

59:17

yeah, we plan on running again. We

59:19

left a million dollars in the treasury to

59:21

to do so. We were so fortunate

59:23

to have support from all across this

59:26

country, from amazing people, and

59:28

then to have the support from the Trump family. We

59:30

raised over eight point four million dollars in our

59:32

race, so we're allowed to We're

59:34

able to keep some money in the bank to

59:36

to continue. It's gonna take time. Baltimore

59:39

City, like Chicago, it's it's tough when

59:41

you've been under Democrat one party

59:43

rule for fifty some years. It's

59:46

gonna take time for people to change their

59:48

minds and say, wow, you know, maybe I

59:50

should vote differently. But for

59:53

us in Baltimore City in that part

59:55

of the district, usually a Republican gets

59:58

votes. We were able to get we're teen thousand

1:00:00

votes, and we did that in a in

1:00:02

a pretty short amount of time because our our

1:00:05

viral ad didn't go viral until mid August

1:00:08

and so we had until November three to really

1:00:10

just take it home. So I think you know

1:00:12

now that we still have time, we're still in

1:00:14

the community. You have a team

1:00:16

out there right now registering voters.

1:00:19

There are actually seventy four thousand people

1:00:21

in Baltimore City that are not registered to vote

1:00:23

at all, and so that's a big chunk,

1:00:25

and it's a big number where I know there's

1:00:28

a lot of people saying, look, things

1:00:30

aren't going the way we saw things were gonna

1:00:32

be going at this point in time. One,

1:00:34

we're all, you know, we're going backwards in a way.

1:00:37

And so the more we stay out there and

1:00:39

stay relevant and making

1:00:41

sure people know they were there for the community. We

1:00:43

took a bunch of kids from West Baltimore and

1:00:46

sent them down to West Virginia to summer

1:00:48

camp this year, and that was a lot of fun and

1:00:50

you know, just give them something else to do and

1:00:53

great exposure for them. Hopefully they'll go

1:00:55

back each year. I've been donating and

1:00:57

helping out at many churches in the area and

1:01:00

is doing the things that anybody

1:01:02

would do that's able to lend a helping

1:01:04

hands. So we're definitely gonna run again.

1:01:06

We're looking to run in twenty two,

1:01:08

but if it ends up being four where

1:01:11

we make the biggest ground game, then

1:01:13

we'll just take our time and do what needs to be done

1:01:15

so that we can win. But at the end

1:01:17

of the day, I'm never giving up on Baltimore.

1:01:20

You know, I hear all the rumors, Oh, Kim's gonna go to Florida.

1:01:22

She probably is gonna go run in a in a district

1:01:24

where it's easier to run, and It's like, no, that's

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not why I'm here, That's not why I got into this.

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This is about changing Baltimore.

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There are people that have hope, dreams,

1:01:34

aspirations to do more, and I want

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to make sure that they have the opportunity

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to get to the American dream just like everyone

1:01:41

else. And so we're gonna continue to run.

1:01:44

I'll probably wait a little bit to announce,

1:01:46

probably towards February next

1:01:48

year, because I am working on my pack

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and you know the FBC rules, you can't do a

1:01:53

pack and be an announced

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Kimia at the same time, so we'll we'll take our

1:01:57

time on that. Well, thank you for giving us

1:01:59

that exclusive of Kimberly Classic is

1:02:02

running again. And you know

1:02:04

one thing that I appreciate, I think you have

1:02:07

it. I mean obviously the star

1:02:09

power, but I think you actually care

1:02:12

and that I think that resonates with people

1:02:14

more. You actually care. And I've known

1:02:16

you for years and I know that you care

1:02:18

because we've been talking about this stuff for years

1:02:20

before you even really hit the scene in the

1:02:23

in the media. So thank you so

1:02:25

much for all that you do. And

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the GOP should really be taking note because

1:02:31

instead of trying to go to an area to

1:02:33

win a race one time, especially when

1:02:35

you're talking about urban centers, you gotta

1:02:37

be in the community. You gotta stay there. You

1:02:39

don't just win the race from one

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election. Most times, when you're trying to win urban

1:02:44

seat, you gotta let the people get

1:02:46

to know you. They gotta have conversations with you, feel

1:02:48

comfortable with you, and whatever political

1:02:51

boogeyman the Democrats will use.

1:02:53

People look at it as bs and said, you know

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what, I know her. She's a good person.

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I don't believe that I want to give up my support.

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I met her, I believe in her, so

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continue doing that. And I hope you're still

1:03:05

pushing the party to get involved

1:03:08

in a lot of these races, but certainly you're

1:03:10

you're using your pack to create the wave versus

1:03:13

chasing it with the r n C. So, Kimberly,

1:03:15

where can people find you? So? On Twitter,

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I'm at kim k Baltimore, and

1:03:20

on Instagram and Facebook it's Kimberly

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Clasick. I'm on LinkedIn, but I

1:03:25

mean that's not fun. Let's be honest. So just

1:03:29

kidding now it's Kimberly Clasic there too.

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Okay, We'll be sure to follow you on all social

1:03:34

media. I want to thank you again for co hosting

1:03:36

the show with me and I

1:03:38

look forward to what you have coming

1:03:40

up and certainly doing more this with

1:03:42

you. Thank you, thanks for having me,

1:03:44

and keep up all the good work you're doing too.

1:03:47

It's definitely appreciated. Thank

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you, miss Kimberly Classic. I appreciate your time

1:03:52

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1:04:03

want to thank my dear friend Kimberly Clasic

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