0:00

Up next, out Loud with Gianno

0:02

called part of the gang, which switch. Remember

0:05

when Joe Biden was supposed to be the man to

0:08

bring the American people together, the

0:10

moderate savior who would unify this country.

0:13

Yeah, I don't believe any of that either,

0:15

and needed that I believe it to begin with. This

0:18

is out Allowed with Giano called Brow. Welcome

0:24

back to aullowed with Giano called Brow. I'm really

0:26

excited for this week's show. My guess

0:28

is Brian Killed Mead. One of the most well

0:30

known political commentators in America today.

0:33

Brian hosts the nationally syndicated radio show

0:35

The Brian Killed Me Show weekdays from nine am

0:37

to noon on Fox News Radio. You can

0:40

also see him each weekday as the co

0:42

host of Fox and Friends. Beyond radio

0:44

and television, Brian is the New York Times bestselling

0:46

author who has written several books on American

0:49

history, including his most recent

0:51

book, Sam Houston and the Alamo Avengers,

0:54

The Texas victory that changed American History.

0:56

Today, Brian and I are going to talk about the biggest

0:59

issues of the day, immigration, race,

1:01

politics, culture, and much more. Let's

1:04

go today on Allowed with Gianno called While

1:06

I have a very, very special guest, someone

1:08

who's a bit of a mentor to me,

1:10

someone who endorsed my

1:12

book Taking for Granted, and he was one of the first ones

1:15

to say absolutely, I'll do it. Brian

1:17

Kiell me thank you for joining me today.

1:20

Is such a pleasure to have you on. Go

1:22

get him Gianno, congratulations really your success.

1:24

Thank you so so much. So. I want to start

1:27

by talking about Prince Philip.

1:29

As everyone knows, it was breaking news last

1:32

Friday that Prince Philip

1:34

had passed, and I know that there was

1:36

a bit of a flare

1:39

from the mainstream media suggesting

1:41

that you um said that he

1:43

might have died because of

1:46

the Megan Markle interview with

1:48

Oprah Winfrey and Prince Harry. They

1:51

say that you're saying that they contributed to

1:53

it. Can you run us through what your

1:55

comments were? Uh, you mean on

1:57

the show, Yes, on the Fox and Friends terrble.

2:00

I mean, if if that's my grandfather in the freaking hospital,

2:02

I wait on the interview or don't publish it. And

2:05

evidently he was outraged by it, so it's part

2:07

of the story. So that's why I speak spoken about it.

2:10

Yeah, and the media is running crazy with it. I

2:12

want to talk about your trip to Texas of not

2:15

long ago. I guess it was last week. You

2:17

went to Texas and you did a tour with Commissioner

2:19

George P. Bush. What did you learn from

2:21

your trip to Texas? For people not

2:23

in Texas, it's not a big position. For

2:26

people who live in Texas, it's a huge position

2:28

because literally it's the land. Is the development

2:30

of the land, especially for

2:33

oil, gas, wind, solar when

2:36

you talk about developments, industrialization,

2:40

ports, So it's a launching

2:42

pad for a career. And he obviously

2:44

is extremely ambitious, but humble guide typical

2:47

Bush. And what he's saying

2:49

is, I'm fighting when they win. Joe

2:52

Biden opened up those books and signed those an executive

2:54

order putting a pause on oil and gas, and

2:57

his job is to say, that's unconstitutional.

2:59

We out of state here, we gotta

3:01

be able to do this, and please give me a reason why you're

3:03

pausing this. And the other thing to keep

3:06

in mind, too, is that when you pause oil

3:08

and gas and federal land, you're destroying

3:10

Wyoming in New Mexico,

3:13

because Wyoming is something like their

3:16

land is federally owned and thirty

3:18

five to is

3:20

New Mexico, and that's the democratic

3:22

run state. Right now, why would

3:24

you first destroy them with border issues?

3:27

And number one and number two come

3:29

back and say, well, you still make a living And

3:32

what are you talking about? Because this is agenda

3:34

driven. Now, what's in the best interests of

3:36

the people in the country, Because if you want,

3:39

you could tell everyone to stop with oil and

3:42

gas. Let's do that. Let's feel great about

3:44

ourselves. Just so you know, we're gonna

3:46

be buying it from the Middle East, Saudi

3:48

Arabia, which obviously they have a problem with,

3:51

and then Russia, who I don't know if you've

3:53

heard, they're not the best neighbors. So now

3:55

we're going to be buying from them,

3:58

fattening up their accounts instead

4:00

of making Americans successful.

4:02

So I wanted to go out and cover that story and

4:05

find out the human cost, and the human

4:07

cost is tremendous, so immediately

4:09

it's affecting the economy. During your trip

4:11

in in Texas, I know you also discussed immigration

4:14

while you were there. Fox News recently

4:16

reported on the ranchers in places like Texas

4:18

and Arizona finding bodies of dead

4:21

immigrants on their properties. We

4:23

know many people in Central America have been encouraged

4:25

to try to enter America illegally

4:28

because Joe Biden is in office. What do

4:30

you make of the Biden administrations immigration

4:33

policies and what lessons, if any, should we

4:35

learn from the Trump administration on immigration.

4:38

I'll tell you what. Whatever you think about the Trump administration,

4:40

they admitted there was a problem, they made

4:42

mistakes, they fired people, they

4:45

hired people. They've moved it through.

4:47

They going through two secretary defenses, they went

4:50

into other areas. Uh, they were trying,

4:52

and then when you showed up, the border patrol

4:54

was allowed to take you through. I mean I was literally

4:57

doing interviews with the border patrol while

4:59

people will walking up on them, families

5:02

turning themselves in. So I

5:04

don't feel like I was being lied too. I was seeing

5:06

a situation that we needed

5:08

to be handled and they couldn't find a way. But

5:10

eventually they got it right to remain

5:13

in Mexico with Mexico's cooperation was genius.

5:15

The way the President said I'm gonna put

5:17

tariffs on you unless you start

5:20

reigning in your your southern border, and

5:22

they said, well, in turn, I will give you financing

5:24

to let these people apply

5:27

for citizenship in your country, and

5:29

then we'll decide if they stay come into our country.

5:32

And they said all right, and then they put twenty

5:34

thousand troops on their southern border. They said that was impossible.

5:37

Then they passed this other role that says, if you're going to apply

5:40

for citizenship in America, the first

5:42

country you crossed into is where you apply. So

5:45

they were crossing into the next country and applying,

5:48

okay, and then they went

5:50

ahead and started building the wall. That doesn't

5:53

work, then everyone needs so

5:55

they were doing it, and then things dropped

5:58

dramatically to the point where I'm

6:00

saying to myself, why is Trump not running

6:02

on this, Like why is he not bringing up that we quieted

6:04

down the border. But what happened is it became

6:06

a non issue. Almost reminds

6:08

me of when McCain got

6:11

the domination. It's because he supported the surge

6:13

in Iraq and we eradicated

6:15

ISIS or are on route to eradicating ISIS

6:17

there. But by the time he

6:20

got the nomination was running for president.

6:22

The big issue was the crashing of the economy. I

6:24

almost felt like Trump, you fix the trade,

6:27

you fix the border, too quick. It's

6:29

not even on people's minds anymore. So

6:32

there is so much that Biden's doing that is

6:35

wrong. Saying I'm being in humanitarian

6:37

by letting kids stay here is inviting

6:39

tens of thousands to come here and risk their

6:41

lives to get here and to drown

6:44

in the Rio Grand River in route, or

6:46

to be taken advantage of by coyotes,

6:48

or having families say the best thing

6:50

I can do for my kid is to sell my house

6:53

and send my kid to America because he gets to

6:55

stay. So everything they're

6:58

doing is so shortsighted, and

7:00

the fact that they're ignoring it, the Vice

7:02

presidents refusing to do anythings that make one

7:04

phone call getting

7:07

a total pass on it. Yeah, and they're there's

7:09

projecting that there's gonna be over

7:11

two hundred thousand unincompanied unincompanied

7:14

children coming to the southern border,

7:17

and we're not hearing a whole lot of conversation

7:19

about that. So it provides

7:21

a problematic status

7:24

for the country continuously because you're bringing

7:26

people in, you're inviting a man, as Joe Biden

7:28

did, and certainly he's

7:30

endangering these families. Johnna.

7:32

They're not letting us talk to

7:35

the border patrol people, they're not letting

7:37

us into the facilities. Why

7:39

is this media so compliant. Why

7:42

are they okay getting the heisman? Well,

7:44

where where's the anger? I mean, Okay,

7:46

you don't like Trump and you're Democrats.

7:49

I get it. If that's the case, it clearly is

7:51

the case. But don't you have

7:53

pride in what you do? I mean,

7:56

as I said, Trump was willing to have a bad

7:58

story told because

8:01

he didn't think he was to blame and he was trying to fix it. Whatever

8:04

I had access, I literally they said

8:07

to me I could fly down with the Secretary of Defense

8:09

and do whatever story I want. I flew

8:11

down there on the pen on the Secretary

8:13

Defenses plane, and they talked about

8:15

how they were gonna use both the

8:18

Defense Department funds and HHS funds

8:20

in order to stop immigration.

8:23

But they didn't tell me making a positive

8:25

story. I said, let me just tell the story.

8:28

They okay, yeah, if you want, you can hop

8:30

on their plane. And I was able to do interviews on the

8:32

plane on the way down there. Now I

8:34

don't I don't think, not only couldn't you

8:36

do that? Now you're not even allowed to

8:38

talk to a border patrol person. If they're caught communicating

8:41

with you, they get fired. Wow,

8:45

So things have changed. Extraordinarily

8:48

in terms of getting the story out. We haven't seen

8:50

people like AOC make some of these

8:52

bizarre and extreme comments that you

8:54

made with regards to the Trump administration, even

8:57

though the Biden administration uh

9:00

has really encouraged

9:03

the displacements of these children.

9:05

So there's no safety, they're just coming

9:07

over and you've got a lot of smugglers still

9:09

in the space that are profiting off these

9:12

families. Is really disgusting. You're

9:14

paying taxes on daily basis, you're gotta buy something, you're

9:16

paying taxes. You're writing a check at the end of the year, you're

9:18

paying taxes. Uh, you know you

9:20

work, you know how hard you work to get this job.

9:23

If you sell a sponsorship on this job, you get

9:25

a percentage of it. But if you ever get paid

9:27

paid as a freelancer, which

9:30

when when you do a book or a speech you get paid as

9:32

a freelance, you don't take any taxes out. That's

9:35

when you understand how much of your

9:37

paycheck goes to taxes. And

9:39

now in New York, of all

9:41

your money is going to taxes. If you're in

9:44

the higher tax bracket, why

9:48

why am I working for half the year? All right? But I understand,

9:50

you got to tax, you gotta ge roads, you gotta get subways.

9:52

I get it, but is totally

9:54

out of control. Highest in the country. If

9:56

you're writing tax checks on these

9:59

taxes at the around

10:01

now every year, how do you feel

10:04

about New York putting two

10:06

point two billion dollars worth

10:08

of some of which is your tax money aside

10:11

for people here illegally. So

10:13

now they're getting up to sixteen thousand to

10:16

come here. It's a magnet. Number

10:18

two, I've never seen something.

10:20

To qualify. You have to prove that you

10:22

don't exist. I promise you, I

10:24

don't have any idea and I snuck in here. Please

10:27

give me sixteen thousand dollars. What

10:30

country can afford to do that? Can

10:32

I answer that? None? What country

10:34

would do that? None? That wanted

10:36

to be successful and sustainable?

10:39

And now we're thirty thirty trillion

10:41

dollars in debt. People say, well,

10:44

you're you're a rich country. You should be able to know.

10:46

We're not. We're we're overspending

10:48

our budget. And if I'm going to overspend,

10:51

it's not gonna be because I'm going to the clubs and partying

10:53

and taking littles home. It's gonna be

10:56

because I'm doing something that's gonna benefit your

10:58

life. And sometimes you're overdrawn, go too

11:00

much in your credit card. But to go

11:02

over for this reason, it's

11:05

to me unacceptable for for America.

11:08

I agree with you completely. Before we move

11:10

on, let's take a quick break back in a second,

11:18

and I want to switch gears a little

11:20

bit because there's something really big

11:22

going on in the news, Baseball's decision to move

11:24

this All Star game from Atlanta due

11:26

to the backlash against the law. As

11:29

a former sports commentator, you

11:31

know, I I got some thoughts about

11:34

what you may think because I've I've read some of your

11:36

stuff. But how ridiculous

11:39

could this actually be? When six of

11:41

African American support voter I

11:43

d American support voter

11:45

I D the companies to say

11:48

that this is racist. I

11:50

think it's ridiculous. I think you just took a hundred

11:52

million dollar investment from the black community

11:55

and and put it over to where else where.

11:57

There's not a lot of black folks in Colorado.

12:00

It's not a lot of black folks in Denver, Colorado.

12:02

So wokeness is a new shot

12:04

in the face because you're taking

12:06

economic power away from a community that

12:08

needs it. To see Jim Crow and how ugly

12:11

it is part of America's past. No one ducks it

12:13

terrible. Don't ever justify it. Please,

12:16

I don't know anybody that does. If they do, they're

12:18

probably whispering it somewhere in some back alley.

12:20

I never hear it, but to

12:22

say that this is Jim Crow on steroids. And now

12:25

you're saying it's worse. So

12:27

you're saying segregated

12:30

life, several segregated neighborhoods

12:32

from eighteen seventy on down where

12:34

if you want to vote, you better pay some money. When you

12:36

want to vote, you better take a literacy test.

12:38

When you want to vote, you can have your life threatened

12:41

or you could actually lose your life to vote.

12:43

So people, uh minority communities

12:46

weren't even doing it. To compare

12:48

this law and these these

12:51

measures to that is

12:53

so beyond logical,

12:56

practical and accurate.

12:59

I can't put into words. So Georgia

13:02

does this openly.

13:04

They're happy about it. They pushed back on Trump

13:07

and they made some changes and

13:09

they said, well, you're trying to rule out before

13:11

it's even done. Stacy Abrahams

13:13

comes out and says, I want to say

13:16

that this is Jim Crow to point

13:18

out, wow, is that insulting number

13:21

two? Number two is what don't you like about

13:23

it? Just tell me who you don't like about. Just

13:25

go to bat on these measures. You're very popular,

13:28

you have a lot of power. Tells who you don't like. So

13:30

as you look at these measures and read this bill and then

13:32

you hear what they explain on almost each one

13:34

of them, it makes total sense to me what I'm

13:37

saying is and I believe if you put from

13:39

what I know of the Georgia officials, I only know

13:41

him from television and radio. But

13:43

if you gave them a lie detective test and

13:46

said do

13:49

you want everyone to vote

13:52

accurately and fairly? The answers yes.

13:55

What they're guarding against is fraud.

13:57

They're not guarding against people voting

14:00

what they're doing in Texas. They're not saying

14:02

minorities stay home. There is

14:04

a sense that they've lost control of the process

14:07

on the unsolicited no excuse

14:10

balloting. They these ballots

14:12

are and apartment buildings where people haven't lived

14:14

in four years. There in licenses when people

14:16

leave, when they leave college there Obviously

14:18

there are just changes. If they didn't request

14:21

a ballot, the ballot will just sit

14:23

in that dorm room, in that building, in a

14:25

house. It doesn't belong and people might

14:27

pick it up, fill it out, send it in. What

14:30

do I have to lose? I hate Trump, I love

14:32

Trump, I loved Rondo Santis, I love

14:34

Stacy Abrams. I'm gonna vote for Brian

14:37

Kemp. That doesn't make anybody

14:39

feel good about the election process. So

14:42

expanded hours. There's seven and seven. They've always

14:44

been seven and seven when it comes to mailing

14:47

in a ballot. No excuse, balloting is new, okay,

14:49

so you don't have to tell say you could be in town, it doesn't

14:52

matter. But they just want to have an idea on this.

14:54

As you just mentioned, seventy pers out of the country

14:57

is for it, of

15:00

non whites, of African

15:02

Americans. Wow, okay, so they

15:04

want to but know what they're saying, don't worry

15:06

about the signature verification. So that was

15:08

controversial last time. They said, let you throw it out.

15:10

Now that Brian kempt do a good job explaining that.

15:12

No, they're able to say no water on the line.

15:16

But for the President to come out and say that's sick

15:19

is to me something that Trump

15:22

would be raked over the cold for saying so that's

15:24

irresponsible. It is irresponsible.

15:26

Do you get the feeling that black folks

15:29

are continuously being exploited

15:31

not just bout the Democratic Party but the mainstream

15:34

media as well. It just seems like everything

15:36

is a narrative and beyond

15:39

just what the political aspects of our of

15:41

it is, black folks end up being

15:44

this disenfringised, a marginalized

15:46

some way. And that's by virtue of these MLB

15:49

taking the game out of Atlanta. You lost

15:51

a hundred million dollars in your community businesses

15:53

that needed it, especially after a year

15:55

with cold. They also bring up that they're gonna honor Hank Aaron

15:58

in Atlanta the year they he died, Uh,

16:01

you know, celebrating he is the true

16:03

home run king. In my mind that they're not

16:05

gonna do that in Colorado. If they do, no one's gonna care or

16:07

not enough, not as much as Atlanta. I

16:10

want to say a couple of things. I don't

16:12

want to. I think the stereotyping I thought was a

16:14

problem. Why am I stereotyping

16:16

on immigration that it hurts blacks

16:19

or minorities? Isn't a

16:21

stereotype to think that all African

16:23

Americans or might not that modern our communities are working

16:25

class or at the bottom run I don't think that way.

16:28

But people just say, if you let the illegal immigrants

16:30

in, it's gonna hurt minorities. No, I

16:32

don't know. I mean, does it hurt the CEO

16:35

of the founder of b ET, No,

16:37

it doesn't. I don't like that. To

16:40

me is the generalization that should not be acceptable.

16:43

And number two is why is it acceptable

16:45

to believe? Why is the conventional

16:47

thought to believe that minorities don't have I d S. I

16:50

think that's an insult. What do you think black

16:52

folks can do the to kind

16:54

of stop this? And I'm kind of reminded of

16:57

someone who book or T. Washington,

16:59

And I've been reading his Up

17:01

from Slavery, his book Up from Slavery, and

17:04

seeing how he was just one

17:06

of the greatest intellectuals of that time. African

17:08

Americans respected him, White folks

17:11

respected him, and his idea was, if

17:13

we can just secure the right education

17:15

and economic freedom, we can

17:18

be quote co equals in

17:20

this country. And black

17:22

folks. If I look at Black women specifically,

17:25

they're one of the most educated groups period.

17:27

You see a lot of black CEOs. Now you see a lot

17:29

of folks in senior positions. But yet and still

17:32

the same issues of the

17:35

early nineteen and seventies, nineteen

17:37

eighties, nineteen, early two thousand's

17:39

people are still there's still a sense of

17:42

a fight and black

17:44

folks not being equal with white or there's

17:46

injustices. And I know that there are injustices.

17:49

We see that, But some of this stuff is

17:51

being used as a political weapon. Is not

17:53

all totally true, just like the Georgia

17:56

Law. What do you think folks can do the sound

17:58

the alarm and say stop mar generalized in

18:00

us, Stop saying that we're basically

18:02

so stupid that we can't get an I

18:05

D we can't afford it. What kind of stuff isn't

18:07

so much? I remember doing talking

18:09

about slavery and the the

18:11

original sin and George W. Bush talking

18:13

about that and the horror of it. Nobody

18:16

ever, no pun intended, but whitewashed

18:19

it. Ever, uh No one ever talked

18:21

about saying that reconstruction went smooth.

18:23

Ever, when I read Booker

18:25

T. Washington's Up from Slavery, one

18:27

of the best books I've ever read, the story,

18:29

I love the fact that it's not his biography it's

18:32

his autobiography. It was his words

18:34

exactly. So what

18:36

he found out is, yeah,

18:39

people, you know, people who brought up and they just assumed that

18:41

certain color skin made you were smarter or better.

18:44

And then the people started realizing that's washing

18:46

away because there

18:48

was a sense that if you do

18:51

not you know, uh, that whites were smarter than blacks.

18:53

It was only that our of education. Booker

18:55

T. Washington was somehow that was

18:57

instilled in him. He was determined to get

18:59

that education Aian, and when he did,

19:01

he studied both cultures.

19:05

And when he built the Tuskegee School,

19:08

he watched the orderly way in which white

19:11

farmers would plant their crops opposed to black

19:13

farmers. He watched as whites were helpless

19:15

after slavery because they had absolutely no skills.

19:18

He actually felt bad for white because

19:20

they couldn't do a thing themselves. They couldn't

19:22

build a house, they couldn't take care of a farm, they couldn't

19:24

fix anything. Um and

19:27

the African Americans had all the skills, all

19:29

the trades. So what he said is we're

19:32

gonna do both. I'm gonna teach

19:34

you to build stuff, and I'm also

19:36

gonna teach you to know stuff. So

19:38

they're building buildings and built the Tuskegee School.

19:40

But he found out is if you could be a

19:42

benefit to people, that's the equal

19:44

that's the equalizer. And they would make the

19:47

wagons that would be transportation back

19:49

then and just drop it off in the middle of the town and say, hey,

19:51

is this from the Tuskegee School, And

19:53

they would become great neighbors. And

19:55

then little by little, this preconditioned

19:58

preconception of slave me and blacks

20:00

being better than whites and whites being better than blacks just

20:03

would fall by the wayside. There'd be people and

20:05

that that we were on our way, and

20:08

those people who are ignorant would be stepped

20:10

aside. I'm not gonna focus on them. I'm gonna keep moving

20:12

forward. And when I address a white audience,

20:14

I'm gonna have the same speech as a black audience.

20:17

I'm not gonna change my message at all. And

20:19

if my goal was to have a president speak

20:21

at an all black school, he made

20:23

it happen. Got William McKinley to show

20:26

down and give the commencement address. Everything

20:28

that was seemed impossible, he made happen.

20:31

In the time in which I still think it's impossible,

20:33

and he did in eighteen seventy, eighteen eighty, right,

20:36

he did it. I mean, we were making so

20:38

much progress, and I feel now

20:41

there's a there's an invisible force forcing

20:44

us apart. I'm just like a loss for words

20:46

because it seems as though the energy has

20:48

definitely dialed up. We

20:50

saw what happened with George Floyd last

20:53

summer, and everyone knows that it was a

20:55

tragedy. Uh. You saw a senator

20:57

attempt Scott come out with the police reform bill, with

20:59

which the Democrats pushed back against

21:01

because they hit their own agenda and they wanted to use

21:04

it as a wage which issue for

21:06

the election. But it doesn't appear

21:08

that things are becoming better. Even

21:11

though the wealth gap is

21:13

closing when it comes to African Americans between

21:16

the whites and black college education is

21:18

up. It just doesn't seem like

21:20

there's that is making much of a

21:22

difference in our country. So you mentioned

21:25

people are apologizing for white privilege. No,

21:27

they're apologize it for being white. It's

21:29

it's there's a difference, you know there,

21:31

there's there's a distinction there, and it's

21:34

it's become really awful for people.

21:36

And I wonder me as an individual

21:38

who doesn't have kids. I'm not married or

21:40

anything like that, yet, like, what kind of country

21:43

will my kids grow up in if this is what we

21:45

have right now, and it just seems just

21:48

overly divided to me? Yeah,

21:51

I mean it's just overkill. I mean,

21:54

if there are sections in America that think

21:56

it's eighteen, what's

21:58

straightened them out? But I really believe

22:01

most of America respects

22:05

you as much as you might respect me, and

22:07

might be disrespectful to you as much as disrespectful

22:09

to me, but not because of the color of

22:11

your skin, and not because of

22:13

the color of my skin. Some people like, yeah, the one thing

22:15

I know for sure is that guy Brian killed me and I hate him

22:17

on Fox. I never he was cognizant

22:21

of color. And I think a lot

22:23

of it has to do with number

22:25

one growing up lower middle class, not further

22:28

closer to lower than middle. Number

22:30

two is playing soccer. It

22:32

was such a you don't understand this, probably,

22:35

but when you play soccer in the nineteen seventies, nobody

22:37

was playing and almost everybody

22:40

was so called foreigners or minorities.

22:42

And even when I went to college, I was one of four

22:45

Americans on my college soccer team. And

22:47

would you you never see Cohen? You say, well, I

22:50

got three Israelis over here. They're gonna

22:52

be good, hard working midfielders. I got a Greek

22:54

guy in the back. He's gonna be a great sweeper. This

22:56

guy is from Somalia. You know he's gonna be great

22:58

foot skills. I don't know about his in durance. And

23:00

then you got somebody from Jamaica or

23:03

Tobago. Straighter that to

23:05

Bago, I'm gonna tackle in

23:07

a way it's gonna cut you in half. I didn't

23:09

do that to label people. I just said that's what's

23:11

gonna make a great team. I never

23:14

saw color. I

23:16

saw the culture and I loved

23:18

it. You know, we had three guys from Tobago.

23:21

All these guys people I just mentioned that made up

23:23

our team over the next four years. Had two

23:25

guys from Greece, one guy from Colombia. The

23:27

whole back line was Jamaican and

23:30

the other guy was from Huntington Long Island. The goalie was

23:32

from Huntington Long Island. When you play

23:34

sports, it really gives you an

23:36

education on where a team,

23:38

what's it gonna take. And that's the way

23:40

I've always looked at it, and now they're

23:42

forcing everybody to see black

23:44

and white. Even that United Airline

23:47

story. We're going to now fifty

23:49

of all new pilots are gonna be minorities. And I'm thinking

23:51

to myself, Well, if I'm a minority, I wanted to be a pilot.

23:54

I don't want it to be because you made a policy.

23:56

I want to be the best guy. Right.

24:00

No, our hundred percent agree with you on and that we

24:02

need to policy. Here for a quick break, but we'll be back

24:04

in a second. You

24:07

know, being black, growing up like I

24:09

did on the South Side of Chicago, I

24:11

think a lot of times we were taught to

24:13

view life through the prism of race, because

24:17

oftentimes they would tell you, listen,

24:19

you're gonna be discriminated against. You're not gonna get the

24:21

best opportunities. You're not gonna white

24:23

people are gonna look down on you. These are things

24:25

that that are taught. These aren't things

24:27

that you you just grow up believing, you

24:29

were born into believing that you weren't going to be the

24:31

best. These are things that you're taught. And we live

24:33

in a society and a culture which continues

24:36

to perpetrate that narrative and say,

24:39

because of your color, especially if you're

24:41

black, you're you're gonna be insignificant to

24:43

do these major things that so many other people

24:46

have done. And it's something that I would

24:48

have thought would have changed

24:50

by now, but you continue to see it in

24:52

ways that can be micro. So United

24:56

Airlines, Yeah, it's fine to have

24:59

diversity. The most important thing

25:01

is safety in the airplane. Can you do the job

25:03

first and foremost? And this is

25:06

what it doesn't. So

25:08

let's say that Giano Caldwell wants to be

25:10

a pilot and you apologize and

25:12

the United had an opportunity to go in there, And

25:15

do you want people in that class saying well, Gianna

25:17

only got here because it was a quota. No,

25:20

you want to know what you're great to a great You know you've

25:22

got great perception. It has always been your dream. Can

25:24

I please have my dream back? Please? Can

25:27

you please? You know, I'm

25:29

just astounded about some

25:31

of the logic here. Is Democrats now control the federal

25:33

government. The left control so many of our

25:35

most important institution is the media, academia,

25:39

Hollywood, increasingly athletes,

25:41

and now even corporate America. How

25:43

do you see our culture changing in the coming

25:46

years as a result of all the leftist control

25:48

and what role does Joe Biden terrible? It couldn't

25:50

be more disappointed. I think, I don't

25:52

want people are listening to this, but for him to now

25:55

put together a thirty six

25:57

person committee to study fattening

26:00

the courts, for him to be

26:03

writing checks one nine trillion

26:05

dollars, essentially bribing people to vote for him

26:07

and then putting two point two trillion in there and

26:09

pretending its infrastructure. We basically

26:11

we elected AOC. Everything

26:14

that's going on is way

26:16

to the left, and I don't think the country

26:18

is there yet. My worry is they're being

26:20

bribed. They're being bribed with tax

26:22

dollars, tax tax dollars, and

26:25

he's gonna get credit for as

26:27

we come out of the pandemic and vaccines or shott

26:29

into people's arms, and then we'll be

26:31

able just to go back to work, not asking

26:33

to reboot where in

26:36

two thousand and eight we had to go back and go find with the

26:38

bad new banking system will be and find new careers

26:40

in some situations. But

26:42

now we have to just go back to work, go back to that restaurant,

26:44

go back to the department store,

26:47

Uh, go back to go back to your apartment

26:49

building. Uh, and now go back to your

26:51

workplace. And that's gonna put the economy

26:54

on turbo speed. My big worry is they're

26:56

going to say that these policies gave us

26:58

that and and this kind

27:01

of economy was blown was coming back.

27:03

I don't care who was president because

27:06

of the pandemic. Yeah, I think that he's

27:08

gonna gut defense. That's what I think the legacy

27:10

is. And it gout defense at a time where

27:13

China doing the exact opposite. It's death. It's

27:15

death to our superpower status. Speaking

27:19

of China, to pick pick up on that point,

27:22

recently, they threatened the United States

27:24

if they boycott at the Olympics. They said that it

27:26

would be a robust Chinese response

27:29

if the US was to do

27:31

that. I think Joe Biden kind of cow

27:34

til to that because at first there was at least

27:37

reports that there were conversations

27:40

with our allies about boycotting because

27:42

of the human rights abuses in China.

27:45

Joe Biden is clearly showing weakness to China.

27:47

Why do you think that is? Yeah,

27:50

I mean Anthony B. Lincoln was the recipient,

27:53

but did give some back in Alaska. I'm

27:55

mildly encouraged by him. He talked about

27:57

the go to the Asian Accord, uh,

27:59

the Braham Accords. Um.

28:02

He did talk about how NATO is paying more

28:04

than they thought. That's really a tribute

28:06

to Trump. He's leaving the tariffs in

28:08

place, which I like. It shows that tariffs did work

28:10

and all that criticism was all politics. But

28:14

they are really belligerent to come into

28:16

arts on our soil and talk to us as

28:19

if slavery was taking

28:21

place in our country. They because you have a huge

28:23

problem with Black America. They're

28:27

being slaughtered on a daily basis, and

28:29

equate that to what they're doing with the Muslim

28:31

weakers as if it's eighteen

28:33

seventy or eighteen thirty. Is

28:36

unbelievable, but it shows you are all politics are hurting

28:39

us internationally, but they want

28:41

to beat us. Our advantages, we

28:43

have innovation, our advantages.

28:45

We need to be challenged and uh, if you give

28:47

us a common enemy, we can rally. Hence the

28:50

Soviets in every way, shape or

28:52

form. So we have to get interact together.

28:58

I wonder think Bland killed me again and for a great

29:00

interview. If you're enjoying the show, Please leave

29:02

us a review and rate us with five stars on Apple Podcast.

29:05

If you have any questions for me, please email

29:07

me at out lout at Gingerish Street sixty dot com and I'll

29:09

try to answer them in our future episodes. And

29:11

please sign up for my monthly newsletter at Gingishtree

29:14

sixty slash out Loud. You can

29:16

also find me on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

29:18

and parlor at Giano Caldwell. And if

29:20

you're interested in learning more about my story, please

29:22

pick up a copy of my best selling book title Taken

29:25

for Granted, How Conservatism Can Win Back

29:27

to the Americans and Liberalism Failed. Special

29:29

thankst Our producer John Cassio, researcher

29:31

And Kleinman, and executive producers Debbie

29:33

Meyer and Speaking New Gingwich, all part of the Gingerish

29:35

three sixty network