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Up next how Loud with Giano called

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part of the gig which switch. The

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Democratic Party thinks racism in facts

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every inch of American life, except within

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his own ranks. Today I exposed

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the Democratic Party's racism and show just how

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destructive the Party of Jim Crow has

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been for the black community. This is

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allied with Gianno Calledwell. Welcome

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back to Allow with Gianno Caldwell, I've got

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a provocative show for you guys this week. My

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guest is Vernon Jones, who was a member

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of the Georgia House of Representatives from twenty seventeen

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to January of this year, and previously

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served in the same role from two

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thousand and one. After his first

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tent in the Georgia House, Jones served

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as the chief executive officer of Decap

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County, Georgia for eight years. Jones

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is also a successful businessman and the

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founder of the Waken Up America and

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organization dedicated to promoting America's

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core values of hard work, self determination,

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and the promise of the American dream.

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But Jones is perhaps best known for becoming

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the first state elected Democratic official

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in Georgia to endorse Donald Trump's reelection

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bid and Justin January,

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he announced that he was leaving the Democratic Party

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and joining the GOP. Today, I'm

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going to ask Jones why he switched parties

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and so much more. Let's go so,

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I want to begin with Georgia's new election law,

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which Governor Briant Kemp just signed. The

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stated purpose of the laws to protect against voter

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fraud and ensured Georgians Georgia's

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elections are fair and honest. As

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you know, the law does several things such

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as requiring a photo idea in order to vote

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absentee by mail and giving the legislature

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more control over administrating elections.

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And of course, the left has called the law

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racists and it will disenfranchise voters

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of color. What are your thoughts on this? A couple

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of things. The left has

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really shaped the narrative,

1:53

using Stacy Abrams as their shield

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to say it's okay to call this racist.

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That's why Joe Biden is and it's ray this. It's

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ironic that Joe Biden's home state has

2:03

much more restrictive laws than Georgia, but he's

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not calling his home state Jim

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Crow. Matter of fact, that's why I called him

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Joe Crow. When you look at Georgia's

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election laws historically, um

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mail in ballots were or apsotete ballots

2:17

were used for those people were handicapped or

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senior citizens, or you had to have a

2:21

legitimate excuse. When Stacy

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Abrams lost her election, not

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narrowly lost, as she was fifty five thousand

2:29

votes when even getting into a runoff, but

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the media ship as if she narrowly won

2:34

or loss, I should say, um, she

2:36

got upset ful a lawsuit.

2:38

Nobody claimed by her finding lawsuit a matter of

2:40

fact, Gianna, I don't think she's even admitted

2:43

yet that she's lost that race. It's kind of interesting.

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Um, so she files a lawsuit.

2:49

And the Georgia's constitution is very

2:51

clear. It says that only

2:54

the members of the Georgia General Assembly

2:56

have the authority to change election

2:59

laws, not the Secretary of State,

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not the governor. It has to be adopted

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adopted through the members of the Georgia

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General simile mean meaning, if you're gonna change

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anything, we can change it as a legislator.

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The governor can veto it, of course, but the Secretary

3:15

of State has nothing to do with that. And saw

3:17

what you saw, what you saw happen. You

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saw Stacy Abrams go in through

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a back door and negotiate with the

3:24

Secretary of State whose arms were not

3:26

as long as hers. You had Brian Kemp,

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who's fully aware of it, signed

3:31

off on it, who had been a former

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state senator, a former secretary

3:35

of State, and now he's governor, and

3:38

he signed off on that agreement. The members of the

3:40

General simbly knew nothing about it. And

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here's what's iranic. What's

3:44

iran is they were doing

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this, didn't tell us about it, and

3:49

it was all because the governor

3:52

is afraid of Stacy Abrams. They

3:54

had made her Godzilla in

3:56

the State of Georgia and I'm sure other places

3:58

too. She is not the big bad

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wolf. Uh, that's a paper

4:03

tiger. Let me be clear. That is a paper

4:06

all right, and so um um.

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What's interesting is that there's never been

4:11

any litigation. An attorney general sat

4:13

on the sideline they all cut and rent on the president.

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The Attorney General cuve Easy had gotten

4:17

involved and said whether or not it was constitution

4:20

or not. But he's even noticed. He's been silent.

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He is the highest law enforcement officer in the State of

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Georgia. You haven't heard him do anything

4:27

or see anything about investigating anything,

4:29

and he's the highest law enforcement officer. He can

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do it. And so when now

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let's get back to this racism and Jim Crow.

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This build. Someone was saying, including

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Jesse Jackson and what's his name of the guy would

4:41

like to use all the big words, the black guy

4:43

who specializes in hip hop at the Ivy

4:45

Lee School. I can't think of his name right now.

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But but uh oh, they're not allowing

4:50

allowing people to have water. That's not true.

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The way it sets up, it says that within a hundred

4:55

and fifty feet you cannot bring it

4:58

in one water or food. Well, the

5:00

lawyer is right, now, you can't come in that particular

5:02

part in campaign. That's where campaigning

5:05

starts. So people can get food, people

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can't get water. That was a complete lie.

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And then the drop boxes. Did you know that those

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drop boxes would just put out there in an obscure

5:14

place, no supervision, no

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camera, no nothing. Now those drop

5:19

boxes are located in the area that's

5:21

well supervised and it has to be in

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an election precinct. Now what is

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Jim Crow? What is racist about that? And finally,

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Gianna, you can get me on this. If

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white Democrats and Republicans

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have to adhere to the same law that

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black people have. Why is it that is

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suppressing black votes and it's not

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suppressing white votes. It's because

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you don't have an I D. Well, you need an

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I D to check in the hotel, you need an

5:48

I D to go and buy a cigarettes,

5:50

to buy beverages, and an I D

5:53

to get a COVID shop. So you're saying,

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now black people either can't have an idea.

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And by the way, I D s are given out free in George if

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you want on you can't have an

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I D. And you're

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not smart enough. You're just dumb

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as a black person that you're

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now going to be suppressed from voting. I

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tell you what the vote suppression is. The voting suppression

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has been done by Stacey Abrams and

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the Jim Crows that were still in place, who

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painted a picture that black people are deficient

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and defective. That's the real Jim

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Crow. You know. There's

6:25

a saying that the greatest trick

6:27

the devil Everpool was making people

6:29

believe that he didn't exist. There's

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a narrative in the Democratic Party

6:34

that racism doesn't exist

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within their party, and some people

6:39

consider it a safe haven from racism.

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As a long serving member who was

6:45

a Democrat for many many years, what say you

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well to me? The

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most h the most

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devastating area, the most

6:55

bigoted area, the most racist racist

6:57

party is the Democratic Party. For one, they

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think they know what's best for black people. For two,

7:02

they want to think for black people. For three, they

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want to build your habitat house, but not in their neighborhoods

7:08

uh. For four, they have

7:10

gotten so high tech where they were using black votes

7:12

to carry out their liberal agenda. Now

7:15

because more and more blacks are running as Democrats

7:17

for these jobs that they always had, like

7:20

us and and govern everything else. So now

7:22

what they want to do. They're coming in and they're

7:24

picking their own black. Now they've gone high

7:26

tech, they're picking their own black to

7:28

put all the resources behind so they can

7:31

get their person in office. For or not. That

7:33

was support aboarding babies at eight

7:36

months, that was support uh

7:38

taking away your guns. That will support attacking

7:41

you because you're political ideology or political

7:43

affiliation. That would support

7:45

this false sess of Jim Crow and

7:48

not called Joe Byen now for saying that

7:50

if you don't black, you don't if you're not black, you don't vote

7:52

for him. They don't call Joe Biden out by saying

7:55

black people aren't as diversity thinking as white

7:57

people and more as Latinos, and

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even more recently Giano not

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calling the Democrat Party or Joe Biden

8:04

for saying that the reason why black people are

8:06

more or disproports affected by

8:08

COVID is because we don't know how to go online

8:10

and get information. Hell, my four

8:13

year old nephew can get online right now and

8:15

serve more than anybody else. I know. That's

8:17

the bigger tree in a Democratic party. And they

8:19

don't want people like you and me who think independently.

8:23

And I tell you what they use. They use the old method

8:26

when the slaves would leave the plantation, they

8:28

would catch them and bring them back. Who would

8:30

they get the whip the slaves. They

8:33

would get black slaves to whip

8:35

the slaves in front of slaves. So they use the Stacey

8:38

Abrams and the others to

8:40

whip you and me, or try to whip

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us back on the damn plantation for whites

8:44

because now white liberals, because why because

8:47

we're thinking for ourselves now, we don't need them

8:49

to think for us. I wasn't raised a

8:51

victim. They want you to think

8:53

you're a victim. Oh you're

8:56

you're gonna be suppressed by this vote of law,

8:59

really, or your vote is going to be much

9:01

more protected. And

9:04

why not verify when you vote

9:06

in person? Now, Giano, you have to show your

9:08

I D. If you go to Democratic

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Party register for something, you got to show an I

9:13

D. Now why

9:16

is that a person cannot show an idea attached

9:18

it to their mail in ballot. So

9:21

it's better, it's easy and more efficient to verify,

9:24

Uh, your ballot based on on identification

9:27

card versus signatures.

9:30

I signed my signatures ten different ways a day.

9:33

Don't verify me based on my signature. Use my photo

9:35

I D. But it's never been a problem. It's not a problem.

9:37

Now this is fabricated and there you

9:39

know what station Ables using her folks out there to

9:42

call these corporate companies like Coca Cola

9:44

and Delta said oh we're against

9:46

this. But wait a minute, Delta, make Coca

9:49

Cola, you were just busted

9:51

for trying to tell your employees, your quite

9:53

employees, not to be as white.

9:57

Now what if somebody were in the corporate America

9:59

was telling us Giano, Uh, you

10:01

can't be that black, you can't be as

10:03

black. We would lose our mind. We were

10:06

calling Coca cola Jim pro

10:08

plantation. You see the hypocrisy.

10:11

A lot of people know you. They know you from

10:13

being one of the first Well,

10:16

I guess the only Democrats to to endorse

10:18

Presidents Trump's re election for Uh,

10:22

you're a state representative at the time. You've

10:24

been involved with the Democratic Party for

10:27

years. I would imagine decades, and you

10:29

can correct me if I'm wrong. The racism

10:31

and the Democratic Party didn't just start. So

10:34

why did you stay in so long? Well,

10:36

you know what, you don't move

10:39

quickly. You try to change within first.

10:41

You know it's not always Oh

10:44

I quit. I wasn't taught to be a quitter.

10:47

But when I really started

10:49

to see that the

10:51

Democratic Party does not have the Black

10:53

community at heart, at

10:56

his heart, it does not support the black

10:58

agenda. It's supporting BIRA,

11:02

transgender males participating

11:05

in female sports. They

11:08

want to put they want to pass legislation in

11:10

Washington that you're your sex

11:13

or your gender is determined by your mannerisms.

11:16

They want to say that they're for hate crimes,

11:19

but they let black lives matter in

11:21

teeth, attacked and fighting, even killed

11:23

people, even children, and they dope

11:25

say anything about it. They're

11:27

burning churches now, and

11:30

I'm like, wait a minute, this is not

11:32

the Democratic Party I know about. I mean, now,

11:36

faith, it's not even political.

11:39

You have to be. It's kind of funny. You can't even

11:41

say you're a man now. You

11:44

can't even refer to your father and your

11:47

mother as your father and mother. They want you refer to

11:49

them as your parents. Are guardians

11:53

children. They support children

11:56

getting transgender operations

11:59

and being injected with hormones. Children.

12:03

You have to be eighteen just to devote,

12:05

but you're gonna change your child's body.

12:09

Where is the science? You always talk about

12:11

following the science. See, they follow the science

12:13

when it's when it's convenyent for them.

12:16

And so you know what I said,

12:19

By the way, I didn't leave the party. Party left me, but

12:21

I said I'm not gonna go along with that. I'm not gonna

12:24

I'm not gonna deny my faith. I'm

12:26

not going to deny my gender. I'm not

12:28

gonna deny saying that I am a

12:30

man in supporting women and women sports.

12:33

I'm not gonna deny the science. I

12:35

am not going to be more supportive

12:38

of children coming to this country

12:40

illegally than the children right

12:42

here in the United States. Might

12:45

just signed a bill for eighty and

12:47

inforce eight million

12:50

dollars for hotel

12:52

expenses for illegal kids coming over

12:55

from Mexico that he invited to come over Giano,

12:58

their children from your I go to Atlanta,

13:01

living on the streets and under bridges. We're

13:04

the hotels for them. We're the hotels

13:07

for our homeless, including those who

13:09

have mental challenges. Wait

13:13

a minute, and to see the Democrat the

13:15

liberals want to bring those illegals

13:17

in because everything that they're going to voting Democrat,

13:20

and that's gonna push black votes farther

13:23

and farther down the totem pole, where

13:25

soon you won't even be irrelevant. That

13:29

why I said, I can't take this foolishness no

13:31

more. Enough was enough. Now

13:34

let me ask you this question, because since President Trump

13:36

has been at office now he's former

13:38

President Trump, there's been very

13:41

few people have had an opportunity to

13:43

sit down and meet with him and talk with him.

13:46

But you have been a frequent

13:48

visitor of President Trump in Florida,

13:51

and I'm imagining you all are having discussions

13:54

about a number of different things, is

13:56

it, Uh, potentially discussions

13:59

about you running for governor of Georgia.

14:01

Has been a lot of rumors you broke news

14:03

last week. Uh. People have

14:05

been saying that you I mean, but it's

14:07

true. It's true. I'm

14:09

seeing you in a lot of photos with the former president

14:12

and he The people that are meeting with President

14:14

Trump now are those who

14:16

are more of his inner circle than there's ever

14:19

been. There's been folks that met with him when he was at the White

14:21

House, um, stakeholders

14:23

for different industries, et cetera. That's what the

14:25

president does. But in this state, especially

14:28

considering the fact that you came out so hard

14:30

core form in Georgia, one of the

14:32

states that there was major contention with

14:35

Brian Kemp, the governor of Georgia

14:37

and also the Secretary of State, you spoke

14:40

out against that as an elected Democrat

14:42

official. What's going on? Can

14:45

you? Can you let us in on the discussions you've been having

14:47

with President Trump and what's your future

14:49

plans? Well, let me say this general,

14:52

I've always been a Bob Harrison person

14:54

Um. When I was in the legislation in the nineties,

14:56

I worked on both sides Stile. That's how I

14:58

was raised. I was raised faith based,

15:00

hard work. The government doesn't owe you anything,

15:03

business opportunities. Create those opportunities,

15:06

get educated. That's just how it was reared.

15:08

Um. But at the same time, when

15:11

I came out for President Trump, I

15:14

supported him in two thousand and sixteen,

15:16

but nobody paid me any attention because they didn't

15:19

think he could win. But when I came

15:21

out for him in two thousand and twenty,

15:23

you were thought, all hell broke lose primary

15:26

because the Democrats and the liberal media,

15:29

Oh, this cannot happen. He

15:31

doesn't fit the profile. How

15:33

can he do that? He's black. That

15:37

showed a lot of the bigotry

15:39

within the liberal media and the Democratic Party.

15:41

But I supported President Trump

15:44

because of his policies. Look, I went to Historical

15:46

Black College. And if I can sit

15:48

around any group of black liberals

15:51

or whatever, and they'll gree with me at the dinner table. I

15:53

went to Historical Black College North Carolina

15:55

Central University. President

15:57

Obama cut funding for HBCU. President

16:01

Trump came along and not only did it increase

16:03

funding, but he wrote it into law. And you're

16:05

how important is to have funding written into law?

16:07

If you don't think that's not important. Ask

16:09

playing parents who when they lose their funding, so gonna

16:11

try to challenge their funding. Um. At

16:13

the same time, what he did for historical black colleges

16:16

um, that was important. But what he did for

16:18

prison reform was important. I have friends

16:21

and relatives and many other folks I know who

16:24

have had family members who were subjected

16:26

to that crime bill the Joe Biden passed,

16:29

and you saw people giving time with

16:31

the time didn't master crime. And

16:33

so when the President came and did prison reform

16:35

and allow a lot of these non violent

16:37

offenders to be released and have a second chance

16:40

to get the job and work and contribute to

16:42

get back with their families. As a father, as

16:44

a brother, as a son, that was important.

16:47

What he did with opportunities, own districts, What

16:49

he did with the border, when he when he built

16:51

the start building the wall back and stopped to stop

16:54

and release and start stopping them and taking them

16:56

back, catching and return. That

16:58

was good policy of us. Not that he didn't support

17:01

immigration, but look, we had to secure the border.

17:03

And I can think of a number of things that I can remember.

17:06

When Gino, I mean Gianno,

17:08

I'm sorry. When Craig Melvin Gianno,

17:11

I remember and Craig Melvin was

17:13

interview. I mean, the only time I've ever been on a

17:15

liberal station. CN has never had

17:17

me. And when he asked me why I support President

17:20

Trump. When I was telling me, I was going down things

17:22

of policy, and the first thing that came out of his mouth

17:24

you could tell he was radioed in his ear and

17:26

he asked me. He interrupted

17:28

me, asked me how much of the Trump campaign

17:31

paying you? How

17:33

much is the Trump campaign paying

17:35

me? He never asked, Say Abram's

17:37

about the five million dollars that she got

17:40

from from the former

17:42

mayor of Bloomberg.

17:45

She never asked. They never asked her and all

17:47

these other blacks how much money they have gotten from

17:49

the Democrats. Matter of fact, a lot of them got nothing, but

17:51

they just working there. But many

17:53

of them did. And it's like it was an insult.

17:56

Because that's why I didn't want to die from

17:58

this president. I just support its policy. So

18:00

I came out strong for him, and I will continue

18:03

to come out strong for him. Now where we are now,

18:05

I've been visiting the President. Yes, I've been

18:07

fortunate enough to maintain a relationship

18:10

with him because I am interested in

18:12

growing the Republican Party. I didn't

18:14

join the party just to be a member. I came

18:17

to the grand old Party bringing a grand new party,

18:19

grand new ideas, grand new people, grand new

18:21

opportunities, and I want to help this party

18:24

through my leadership that I can share with them

18:27

to grow this party. The President is

18:29

the Republican Party, whether they like it

18:31

or not. And I want to know where his thoughts

18:33

were, where his thoughts were, where he's headed, was his

18:36

agenda. How I can still

18:38

remain a part of his agenda because I believe in what

18:40

he's doing. So we've had that dialogue.

18:42

Clearly, I think many people,

18:45

especially those in their right mind, are going to try to

18:47

see the president. I want to talk to the President about

18:49

their personal or future aspiration

18:52

and politics. I think that's a normal

18:54

thing because he's very influential and Georgia

18:56

has an eight eight percent approval rate. Now

18:59

let me get bringing us on home. I

19:02

am very seriously

19:06

considering and been

19:08

doing due diligence and going across this

19:10

state and having conversations

19:12

with small business people that nobody

19:14

know, individuals who don't see them in a newspaper,

19:17

farmers, uh school teachers,

19:20

police officers, those who

19:23

would have physical conditions where they are

19:26

having to have some assistance from the government.

19:28

But but you know it's for the right

19:30

reasons. I'm talking to a number of people,

19:33

corporations, to colleges,

19:35

students. I'm focusing a lot on students,

19:38

and I can tell you this, Governor

19:41

Kemp and the Secretary of State let

19:44

the president down and let the people of Georgia

19:46

down a number of ways. First of all, if

19:49

I were a governor, President Trump

19:52

would have won Georgia. He would

19:54

have won these other states as well. And

19:56

you may say, well, how vernon, Well, first of all,

19:59

I would not have allowed the Secretary

20:02

of State or sign off on with the

20:04

Secretary of State and states Abrams did to change

20:06

the mail out process, mail in battot process. That

20:09

really created a quadmire, that really created

20:11

the opportunity for fraud. Secondly,

20:14

I would have done a health a lot better job

20:16

and selecting who he selected

20:19

to fill Johnny Issens unexpired

20:21

term. The natural person who had the grid,

20:23

the guts and the courage and the experience

20:26

was Doug Collins. Doug College

20:28

should have been in there. That race had been over, we'd

20:30

won both of those. You had senate races Plus I

20:32

would have campaigned a lot more across

20:35

the state for the president and across this country.

20:37

I would have been in Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota,

20:40

Arizona. I would have been all over this country for the

20:42

president. Look at what I just as a state

20:44

representative, how much I was out there for. But

20:47

as a governor a

20:49

state of Georgia, that's what been that would have been even

20:51

more influencing. So yeah, I

20:55

have concerns with what this government did. He cutt

20:57

and Randy didn't have the courage I thought he

20:59

should have had, hadn't displayed um. Not

21:01

to say that I'm asking him to do something

21:04

wrong, but I'm asking to stand up for the people of Georgia.

21:06

For nothing else. He showed no fight. He didn't

21:09

call a special session. He didn't bring this

21:11

out to the legislature. Hey, we changed these election

21:13

laws, and he knew better. He was a Secretary of State.

21:15

So it's about leadership and the

21:18

legislature. They did take a step in the right

21:20

direction to address those election

21:22

luke holes. However, that's

21:25

a daughter Layton and a day short. The

21:27

president should the governor should have had that done

21:29

in the special session, and he didn't. He failed

21:32

so this failure leadership and then he wants to

21:34

come in with this grand photo, not

21:37

realizing that behind him was

21:39

a pitch of a plantation. I

21:41

mean that goes to show you he's

21:44

absolutely don't understand people around

21:46

him. He's not making good decisions. And so

21:48

yeah, I'm very, very seriously

21:51

considering h being

21:54

the governor state of Georgia as a Republican.

21:56

That's where I am, and so we'll be making

21:58

that decision though very short I have not made

22:01

that decision yet, but we will be making a very shortly.

22:03

We're talking to the one and only Vernon Jones. We

22:05

got much more with him out their quick break. What

22:18

is President Trump saying to you,

22:20

because I'm sure you've had these conversations with him,

22:22

you you're considering running for governor

22:24

of Georgia. That's going to be a very hot

22:26

state for him this next

22:28

coming election, and that's in every

22:31

way beyond twenty and beyond just this

22:35

is gonna be one of his targeted states. Is

22:38

he supporting you running

22:41

for governor of Georgia? Let

22:43

me say this, no, nobody

22:45

can disagree. The President

22:48

appreciates how I stood up for him.

22:51

The President appreciates how it stood up for this country

22:53

and how it stood up for Georgia. UM,

22:55

we have a great relationship. At

22:58

this point in time as too early

23:00

for anybody to be doing any endorsements. I

23:02

would say for the president. I'm

23:05

not saying that he can help his business, but I

23:07

would love to have the President's support. It

23:09

would make a huge difference to have his

23:11

support. And at the appropriate

23:13

time those discussions will be held.

23:16

But I can tell you this, the president

23:19

can see who stood up for him when

23:22

times are rough, and who's asking

23:24

for his support now when they thought

23:26

he wasn't gonna be standing, still standing when the

23:28

dull cell. This president is strong, and that's what

23:30

I like about him. He's a man's man.

23:33

He has courage, he'll fight and and he's

23:35

doing it for the right reason. He could be doing so many

23:37

other things, but he really believes in

23:39

America first, and I'm totally call

23:41

up into that with him. I believe in America

23:44

first two, and I think he wants to see He's

23:46

gonna be involved in Georgie, He's gonna be involved in other

23:48

states too, because he wants to see people elected

23:51

that would stand up for for America and

23:53

have the guts and the courage to do so

23:55

and fight the left who's destroying this country.

23:58

Look at what has happening now. Crisis

24:00

are being created because of Joe

24:02

Biden, and Joe Biden is there.

24:05

Let me tell you what I've learned. And I've been a

24:07

legislator for twelve years, I've been a chief executive

24:10

account executive for another eight. I've had to run

24:12

a government. Probably I have more executive

24:14

speris than than the governor that's there

24:16

now in certainly state's abrams Um.

24:18

But let me tell you what's important.

24:21

When you have to make tough decisions,

24:24

you don't need somebody in there who's going with the political

24:26

wins, who are afraid to make the decisions and

24:28

so um, I would feel very

24:31

comfortable being a chief executive

24:33

of the State of Georgia and getting

24:35

things done, moving to state forward, and not being afraid

24:38

and not being afraid to get involved these corporate

24:40

companies out there who probably never they

24:42

never read the damn bill, and all of a sudden

24:44

they're taking the issue with it because of the

24:46

pressures from Stacy abrams Um.

24:49

We're not gonna play that kind of game, and I'm

24:51

not gonna engage in a in a closed

24:54

uh effort to change something or

24:56

stand for something. I believe I

24:58

would have done this. I would have clearly taking

25:01

additional step and deal with the

25:03

voting system. That that's one

25:05

thing that people, no matter what they change,

25:08

many Georgians are concerned about. They

25:10

do not feel comfortable with it, and the President

25:12

doesn't feel comfortable with it. So the President

25:15

is gonna be having people he believed that

25:17

that supports his agenda. Um, and

25:19

and believe in his agenda. That's did one thing

25:22

from just supporting it, but believing in and so yes,

25:24

he's gonna be very involved in candidates in twenties two.

25:27

Okay, So you in other words, you've

25:30

not you've had the discussion, but you've not had

25:32

a formal discussion with the president about you potentially

25:34

running for governor. Then that's what I'm hearing you say.

25:37

In other words, I got the right yo yo. Now

25:39

I'm looking for the whole stream. Okay,

25:41

very good, very good. So, as someone as

25:44

you just mentioned how many years you've been

25:46

in office, and the course it spans well

25:49

over a decade, you are

25:52

very familiar with folks on the national end

25:54

of the Democratic Party. You know these

25:56

people you I'm sure you had friendships

25:58

with them, your friends with these folks

26:00

locally. What is the Democratic

26:03

Party's playbook these days? Is that identity

26:05

politics and calling everyone a racist. Giving

26:08

your experience as a Democrat, are there any special

26:10

insights that you have into their

26:12

goals and political strategy that conservatives

26:15

might not be aware of. Yeah,

26:17

here's a Democratic party's playbook. It's

26:20

very simple. Continue to push

26:22

a liberal gender agenda

26:25

where we become a genderless society.

26:29

Continue to do more for other countries

26:32

than to do for our own country. Continue

26:35

to do things to scare and put fear

26:38

and black voters minds and hearts

26:41

so they continue to vote Democrat, and

26:43

to continue to let them are i

26:46

should say, brainwash them to feel that

26:49

haven't we been taken care of you all? Let

26:51

us take care of you, We know what you need.

26:54

Don't worry about anything. You don't need to think. That's

26:56

their agenda. Their agenda does

26:59

not in any They involve bringing

27:01

black people out of dire

27:04

conditions. They want, you know what, They want

27:06

people to remain on programs. They don't

27:09

want them to have jobs. They want to have programs. They want

27:11

to continue to lean on the government. Thing the

27:13

governy. The government is here to help. We're gonna help

27:15

you. No, we want

27:17

to help ourselves. But we've been we've been conditioned

27:19

to be that way. And again, because they think

27:22

about this, If the Democratic Party

27:24

lost just of the

27:26

black vote, they

27:29

could not get elected. If

27:31

they lost consistently fifty percent

27:33

of the black vote, you'll start to see more

27:35

and more Democrats lose. Why

27:38

and more and more Republicans win. Why Because

27:40

Democrats cannot win without the black

27:42

vote. Republicans used

27:45

to be able to win without the black votes. But

27:47

they're running out of white conservatives.

27:49

They're running out, so they're

27:52

gonna have to grow the party. And you have to

27:54

grow the party by going word. The conservatives

27:56

are. They're in the Democratic Party, but they just

27:58

don't trust the Republican. They'll tell you, oh

28:00

yeah, the Democratic Party has been taking me for granted.

28:02

None of all of them would tell you that. But

28:05

I'm choosing less of two eevers. We have been the less of two

28:07

EETs. Let me think about this now, for sixty

28:09

years you've been voting Democrat and you're still singing

28:12

someday we'll overcome. And just four

28:14

years were President Trump and and

28:17

he didn't get maybe maybe

28:20

said the most, he did more for the

28:23

African American community in four years,

28:25

and they half for them in the past sixty

28:27

years. Joe Biden been there for forty seven years, and

28:29

nobody can tell me to this day. Maybe because

28:31

I know you do a lot of your research, can

28:33

you tell me anything that Joe Biden has done to

28:35

help black people in any way

28:38

other than put them in jail? No?

28:41

I mean, clearly, Joe

28:43

Biden. This is this is the hardest part

28:45

for me. I'll tell you. If we're talking about Joe Biden, especially

28:48

racism, and those terms are thrown around

28:51

quite a bit these days, it is

28:53

extraordinarily difficult for someone to

28:56

be intellectually honest if

28:59

they say that Donald

29:01

Trump is a racist and Joe Biden

29:04

isn't a racist. It just doesn't

29:06

make sense to me. If you consider if you consider

29:09

President Donald Trump a racist by any

29:11

measure, you cannot say that Joe Biden

29:13

isn't a racist. I will say

29:15

that I believe that there

29:18

and when it comes to Joe Biden, his policies

29:20

have been much more destructive than anything

29:23

that President Trump has said period.

29:26

So with that being the case, I believe in

29:29

policy over rhetoric, and Joe Biden has felt

29:31

that test time and time again. Now we're in a situation

29:33

where the Democratic Party UM,

29:36

which has had a monopoly on the black

29:38

vote for many, many years, and we've seen

29:41

people like you and many others who have decided

29:43

to step out. I stepped out over a decade ago.

29:45

I became a conservative. Now is

29:47

the time for conservatives to really

29:50

embrace the black community in a

29:52

way that they never have. You mentioned correctly,

29:55

they're the numbers in terms

29:57

of growth in the Hispanic community,

30:00

Black community. The Republican

30:02

Party has to in order to survive, It

30:05

has to wrap his around, its arms around

30:07

like the minority community. Otherwise it doesn't.

30:09

So what do we do from here? Continuing

30:12

the Trump policies, I think is a part

30:14

of it. Uh, but what else

30:17

do we do? You you have insights that no one

30:19

else has. What else is it the Republicans

30:21

should be doing in order to get these folks

30:23

into the tent. First of all, it's not gonna

30:26

happen overnight. But President Trump showed

30:28

that if you invest, you getting

30:30

ready to return when he had two

30:32

million more black men to come out and support him.

30:34

That's huge. It goes to show you're right there. You

30:37

have a potential right there. In the black male

30:39

community. We have

30:41

to engage black males from college

30:45

to fraternities and sororities, pastors,

30:49

the church community and religious community, through

30:52

other nonprofit organizations,

30:54

through men's organizations.

30:57

We have to come in and say, hey, wait

30:59

a minute, listen, here's what we

31:01

stand for. We want

31:03

you to have a job. We want you to have the opportunity your own

31:05

business. Look at our policy. We offered

31:08

up the when they offered up to have billion

31:10

dollars for black businesses, not

31:13

minority business because minority now could be so stressed

31:15

so far, but for black businesses.

31:18

How we talk about Look, we

31:20

are men. Let's not lose the fact that we're

31:22

men. There's an attack under

31:24

the attack against the straight male.

31:28

Black Lives Matter was founded by three

31:30

lesbians. And what did they do. They went

31:32

to the heart and the nucleus of the black

31:34

community, the black man to destroy that, to

31:36

take that away. Now, Republicans

31:40

have to be committed. Here's what I

31:42

have. Where I come

31:45

in and you and others come in. We have

31:47

to hold those Republicans accountable.

31:50

You cannot here Georgia,

31:52

for example, David Purdue and

31:55

Kelly Loffler. You cannot put

31:58

two black people in a commercial them and

32:00

all of a sudden, that's your outreach, that's that's

32:03

that's you're getting the black vote. No, that

32:05

dog will not hunt when you really

32:08

start like Donald Trump, and he Donald

32:11

Trump's Mesican be saying, no matter where you're going from a

32:13

black or white audience, Donald Trump beginning

32:15

for a white, all white audience, and say, look, here's

32:17

what we've done for African Americans. All

32:20

right, here's what he's not afraid to see it. Republicans

32:22

got to get out there and start talking up

32:24

and engaging directly on African

32:27

Americans. They got to talk to talk, and they have to walk

32:29

to walk. Why aren't they concentrating

32:32

on African Americans? And Seapack concentrating

32:34

on African Americans and and uh

32:37

and from from from the

32:39

top. And I'm

32:41

having dialogue with Ronald Mcdonnald

32:43

McDaniel, where is the real

32:46

African American engagement? Now's

32:48

the time to do this. You see, you can't

32:50

win. There are a lot of us out there. More bofers

32:52

are coming every single day. But I'm not gonna wait

32:55

on them either, though, Gianna, let's

32:57

let's be clear, I'm not I'm a Republican,

32:59

so with us as much as my responsibility

33:02

as it is, there's and so not

33:04

only I'm gonna be vocal and continue be vocal

33:06

with them, I'm gonna be vocal with myself.

33:08

You're a vocal You know how many African American young

33:10

men who know of you never got

33:13

a chance to meet you. And you went to college. That's why

33:15

I'm going to college is to meet them, to say,

33:17

look, you have a choice. I'm not here

33:19

to get you to change parties. I'm getting

33:21

you to change your mind about only

33:23

looking one way, look both ways. Look at what we're

33:26

really offering. The older generation,

33:28

they've been locked in so long they

33:31

can't get out of it. But the newer generation,

33:33

and we're talking about the future Republican Party.

33:36

The future Republican Party. Giano looks

33:38

like you and me. That's the future the Republican

33:40

Party. We need to pause here for a quick

33:42

break, but we'll be back in the second. What

33:52

do you say to the critics that say, oh,

33:54

you're looking to run for governor as a Republican,

33:57

but you just became a Republican. I think you change

33:59

party's in January. If

34:01

I'm correct, what do you say to those critics?

34:04

Well, let's look at the last three

34:07

Republican governors, all

34:10

but Brian Kemp. We're

34:13

Democrats. Nobody said

34:15

anything about that, not

34:17

a word. Nobody said

34:19

anything about Zell

34:21

Miller, who was a Democrat who

34:24

came out and and supported President

34:26

George W. Bush and spoke at Republican

34:29

National Convention. Nobody

34:31

said anything about that. The

34:33

Democrats were hashtag silent.

34:37

But wait a minute, why is the issue when

34:40

a black man stands out like that? Well,

34:42

you know what, I've always been a barrier

34:45

breaker, So We're gonna break that bear. We're gonna knock

34:47

that roll down. So other young

34:49

African Americans or anybody else who want

34:51

to change parties, they don't have the issue of

34:53

white people with changing from Democrats

34:55

Republican. Almost every day, nobody

34:57

said anything about it. So I underst

35:00

stand, I understand the burden

35:02

that I care, the cross that I care, But who

35:04

other than me can care of this cross? Who

35:06

other than me can have this type of influence and

35:08

this day and this time. So you know what, I

35:11

don't care about that. But they don't realize I've

35:13

always been conservative. You can you

35:15

know what many liberal Republicans I know, and

35:17

how many conservative Democrats I know? It's

35:20

about conservative I've

35:22

always been conservative. I haven't changed

35:24

who Vernon is. That's why I said the party

35:27

left me. I didn't leave the party. The Democrat,

35:29

the Republican party espouse more of

35:31

what my beliefs are, my core beliefs.

35:34

So I'm much more comfortable change in Jerseys

35:37

And you know what, but it ain't about party,

35:39

because that's what's got grid lock going on to Washington

35:41

right now. Who are people who are willing to stand up

35:43

and do the job work across the owl and

35:46

get things done. I'd like to get things

35:48

done, and I have a record of getting things done.

35:51

Besides you potentially running for governor,

35:53

do you have any other big projects coming out the folks

35:55

at homes you know about? Well, you know, I found it

35:57

waking up America dot US. Waking

35:59

up America dot US. Where that

36:02

organization I'm concentrating on several things.

36:04

One obviously for law enforcement,

36:06

fighting socialism and Marxism,

36:10

supporting those conservative

36:12

and recruiting other African Americans, and going

36:14

to college and university, reaching out to young people,

36:17

growing the party that way, but

36:19

also school choice and that that's something we

36:21

hadn't talked about. I'm pushing school

36:23

choice and let me tell you why. Here's what's interest

36:26

in Gianna. Those kids that are coming over

36:28

here. Now, they're coming over here,

36:30

and the Democrats are saying, come on, come on. Uh,

36:33

they're looking for a better life for their kids. Okay,

36:36

I can understand that. So they give them all

36:38

these services. They get them in schools now

36:40

here. Black kids who are trapped

36:42

in failing schools based on Democrats

36:45

policies. And you have a black

36:47

mother whose kid is

36:49

trapped there based on that zip code. She

36:51

can't she's in a failing school and she cannot.

36:54

She cannot take her kid and put a kid in a performance

36:56

school. Now what if she goes

36:59

and lies about her address to

37:01

get her child into performing school

37:04

and they find out that her that she lied

37:06

on her address, They throw the child

37:09

out. There's no sanctuary school for that

37:11

child. And you know what, the mother gets

37:13

arrested for Lyne. Now,

37:16

let me understand something. You have illegals

37:18

that can come across the border illegally,

37:21

and you give them a place to sleep

37:24

and put them in a school. You give all these wrap around

37:26

services and you have American families,

37:28

American children who are trapped

37:30

in these Familian schools, and when their mother go in lives

37:32

and get their kids in a performing school because they want to have been a

37:34

life for their kids too, then

37:36

where is the sanct wary for that child at that

37:39

school? Why is that parent now

37:42

arrested? It doesn't make sense. It

37:44

does not make sense, and

37:46

so that's what I'm fighting. And black people,

37:49

I don't care what you say. They do want

37:51

their child in a performing school. Why

37:53

can't the money follow the chowlel Why

37:55

not? Gianna? Why not? Yeah? I agree

37:58

with you, and I think we should. We should live in a a blind

38:00

society, especially when it comes to an application

38:02

of laws. So you can't come into the country break

38:05

our laws, be here and then

38:07

say oh yeah we need to rest people for

38:09

this, that and the other. It's either we're all

38:12

equal or we're not. And that's what it comes

38:14

down to. So I really appreciate that that point,

38:17

and thank you for your point of view on that. And they get

38:19

paid, they get paid to break along

38:21

coming to this country. They get paid because

38:24

they free services,

38:26

free government services, free. That's that any

38:28

other free hotel room, etcetera. I

38:32

mean, I mean, it's it's it's the darnest thing.

38:35

And so yeah, that's my other

38:37

project. I've been going across the

38:39

country preaching that and again recruiting

38:41

and uh, just getting people to wake

38:44

up, open your eyes and see what's happening

38:46

and look at what's really happened here. And

38:48

you know, it's kind of funny, you and I both

38:51

have experienced African Americans attacking

38:53

us. Here's what I've

38:55

been trying to get this in my mind. I

38:58

got people that I've known when the llege

39:00

with living my neighborhood, uh,

39:03

going to church with met just through

39:05

social gatherings that I've been knowing

39:07

all my life, damn near and

39:10

you know what, they're mattered at me

39:14

for believing what I believe in, then

39:17

they're real oppressor. Joe

39:20

Biden is the one who said you can't think.

39:23

Joe Biden is the one who said, if you don't vote for

39:25

me, you're not black. Joe Biden is the one who said

39:27

that you know, he doesn't want his kids grow up

39:29

into a racial jungle. He was

39:32

on who jailed your black men.

39:34

He was the one who owned property on the home

39:36

that said that in indeed that he couldn't

39:38

sell it to a black family. But you

39:40

want to beat me up and not beat him up.

39:43

You want you want to. I just I just

39:46

don't understand that how they don't

39:48

want to fight their real oppress. You know, David

39:50

Dukes today right now that

39:53

they black sea as a big clansman

39:55

can go and run as a Democrat right

39:57

now and Black people will vote for him just the

40:00

because he has a deep beside his name. And

40:04

you remember this now, remember

40:06

Joe Biden said that he was considering one

40:08

time having a Republican and a vice presidential

40:11

candidate as vice president running

40:13

mate. He actually said that not a

40:15

word from black people or Democrats,

40:18

not a word, not a word.

40:21

And you know the going back to Bigger tree

40:23

in the Democratic Party, you noticed that they grade

40:26

their candidates. What do you mean

40:28

vernon grade? Why can't they ever select

40:31

somebody that both of their parents

40:33

are black? Why

40:36

why can't they Why can't they ever support

40:40

why can't they ever select for vice president

40:42

president? We're

40:44

both of the parents are black. I understand your

40:46

point on David Duke, And just for clarification

40:49

for the audience, who want to make sure that people understand

40:52

exactly what you're saying. You're saying

40:54

when you mentioned David Duke, that

40:57

black folks generally or even just Democratic

40:59

voter will vote for it just about anyone

41:02

because they have a D next to their name, not necessarily

41:05

that they would vote for David Duke

41:07

generally, who's obviously someone

41:10

that a lot of folks know as a klansman

41:12

and and a racist. So I I get your

41:14

point completely. That's what you were saying. Right, Here's

41:17

what I'm saying. Let me be specific.

41:19

If David Dukes were to turn today

41:21

and become a Democrat and

41:24

we're the run against run

41:26

against Joe Biden or any other Republican,

41:29

they would vote for David Dukes just because

41:31

he called himself a Democrat. And

41:33

that's mostly black people. White people were

41:36

the only race look at just look at the numbers.

41:38

We're the only race that's been voting consistently

41:41

for the past sixty years, ninety

41:45

of one party. Asians

41:47

don't do it. Native Americans don't do it,

41:50

um um um. Indians don't

41:52

do it. Specifically, Islanders don't do it. Whites

41:55

don't do it. With the only ones,

41:58

which they really did a good job

42:00

of branding that D in our

42:02

minds. And you know what, you

42:05

could be the most loved black person right

42:08

today if T D. Jake's changed, If

42:11

t D D T D. Jakes today said I gonna

42:13

run as a democ as a Republican, he

42:16

would lose and keeping the same core

42:18

values, he would lose his

42:20

entire church. Yeah,

42:25

but let a white person change parties.

42:28

First of all, no white people are gonna call

42:30

him all those names, those racial names.

42:33

They're not gonna call him all those racial names.

42:36

But when black people do it, we get attacked based

42:38

on our race. We get

42:41

attacked based on our race. What did they call

42:43

us? Sellouts? And they're only it's

42:45

some of them so stupid. They don't even know what Uncle

42:47

Tomy is when they call your uncle Tom. If they

42:50

knew they were complimenting you, they wouldn't do it. But

42:52

they compliment you when they call Uncle Tom. It's

42:54

just pathetic. It's just pathetic how

42:57

white people have got White liberals

42:59

have gotten into black people's heads to

43:02

that extent. Wow, you sound

43:05

like you're very you're very fired up. And there are

43:07

some points that I agree wholehearted

43:10

with you on um. Others

43:12

I don't know about the David do come and I leave that

43:14

for you in your opinion. I'll leave

43:16

that in your camp. But but

43:19

in Chicago, so here here's the here's

43:21

the distinction, and I'll tell you this. There's this guy.

43:24

He used the state represent name as Ken Duncan. He

43:26

ran uh. He was a state rep for many

43:28

many years, very beloved, and

43:30

this guy helped a Republican

43:33

governor. He worked across the aisle. And

43:35

when people found out he was working

43:37

across the aisle, the entire Democratic Party

43:39

turned their back on him. Even President

43:43

Obama started cutting ads

43:45

for state representative race because

43:48

he helped Ken Duncan helped

43:50

a Republican governor and

43:52

it was an issue that was beneficial for his constituents.

43:55

So they said, oh no, this is absolutely

43:57

not allowed. And it went so far.

44:00

The Obama did the campaign as

44:02

for this other person, and he went down

44:04

to the state capital and gave an address before

44:07

the state the State Assembly,

44:10

so the both chambers of the House and

44:12

the Senate in Illinois in Springfield,

44:15

and he called out Ken Duncan on the floor.

44:17

Ken Duncan lost that race, and

44:19

he was one of the most beloved state

44:21

reps in the state of Illinois.

44:23

Very pro black guy, but he wanted to

44:26

do what was best for his constituents, and if that been

44:28

working with the Republican, so be it.

44:30

But now he's no longer. So

44:33

I understand. I understand your point completely.

44:36

In history tells that to be a true

44:38

story. I get that. Um, the David

44:40

Duke think that's yours. I'll let you keep

44:42

that. But thank you, thank you so

44:44

much. Let me tell you, if you put slavery on

44:46

the ballot right now, liberals

44:49

would be for it. Put it on

44:51

the balance, and see how many votes he would get. Put

44:53

it on the ballot, and watch what liberals

44:56

do. If slavery was back in existing today,

44:58

the slave owners would be Now

45:01

you probably said, Vernon, you're just as crazy as you can

45:03

be. But no, Diana,

45:05

I'm keeping it real. Think about this soon.

45:10

Ator. Robert Bird was a card carrying

45:13

chapter president of the Clue Klux

45:15

Klan voted against the civil rights and

45:17

the votes right at Joe

45:20

Biden said, that's his hero, Harry

45:23

Clinton, that's my mentor. Joe

45:26

Biden utilized him a

45:29

klansman. And

45:31

black people won't even talk about it. You can't

45:34

even Oh Trump did, but wait,

45:36

let's forget about Trump. Let's talk about what Joe really,

45:41

really, really

45:45

and the man right now says stuff

45:48

that that clearly bigg at it, and

45:51

black people won't say a damn thing. I'm

45:53

not confused. I agree that

45:56

he if he was a Republican,

45:58

I'm sure there will be picked forks outside

46:00

of his house and everybody would be going crazy

46:02

over it. I get it. I mean, we look at Virginia.

46:05

We saw with Governor Northam. We said

46:08

and and people said, oh, we don't care if he's racist,

46:10

he's a Democrat. And I mean, truly, these

46:12

things have happened, So I don't disagree with you

46:15

on that point. I truly appreciate your time.

46:17

Thank you for joining allt with Gianno Caldwell

46:19

and bringing a very important perspective.

46:21

And certainly as a person who has been a member

46:23

of the Democratic Party for many, many years, I

46:26

think Republicans would do well by taking

46:28

a meeting or two and having

46:31

a strategy conversations with you about

46:33

how to uh embrace

46:36

communities who unlike

46:39

when Trump was in office, who really stuck

46:41

his neck out to bring about policies and embrace

46:43

the community, the Republican Party

46:46

overall hasn't necessarily done

46:48

that, and President Trump certainly took

46:50

it to another level. So when he won in twenties

46:53

sixteen, he had eleven percent of

46:55

the black vote of black men, and those

46:57

numbers went to double digit this

47:00

this time around in and I'm sure he can build

47:02

on that if he decides to run again in So

47:05

we we love having new blood,

47:07

new ideas, fresh diversity

47:09

and the Republican Party. And thank you for being a part

47:11

of it. Well, thank you too. And you know, I

47:14

gotta tell you, Giano, President

47:17

Trump inspired me to

47:19

come to the Republican Party, not as

47:21

much as the Republican Party. What they were doing

47:24

is what Trump, President Trump did, So I'd say,

47:26

hey, wait a minute, here's a Republican

47:29

who understands, who wants

47:31

to build this party, who wants to have a diverse

47:34

party. He wants everybody have an opportunity.

47:36

That's what experiences I'm hoping me

47:39

and other individuals, even when the Republican

47:41

Party as a whole, maybe it's not coming

47:44

from the top, but people like you and

47:46

me and others, we are the Republican

47:48

Party too, and

47:50

people trust us. We have my own constituency

47:53

and so I'm sure you've

47:55

been you when I first heard

47:57

you go on and first heard about you and

47:59

see you're talking. I'm like, wait a minute, shoot

48:02

this this brother is thinking what I'm thinking. So

48:04

even when you didn't know that, you

48:06

inspired me. You inspired me. I'm like, okay,

48:08

I got somebody else out there thinking just like

48:11

me. And and that choir starts

48:13

to get bigger and bigger, you know.

48:15

And so man, you don't know here.

48:18

Yeah, I'm a I'm a seasoned lawmaker,

48:21

been around this business for thirty years. I'm

48:24

inspired by Gianno cardwell

48:27

too, I'm inspired. And

48:29

I quote you a lot of time. I said, listen to that brother.

48:32

Man up. Look he's not in

48:34

policy. I'm in politics. Okay, you want to call me

48:36

a politicis right here. Here's here's somebody

48:39

who grew up not

48:41

with a silver spoon in his mouth, and

48:44

he's not he's not crying victim.

48:46

He's trying to open your mind, the open doors

48:48

and get you to see way amend and this

48:51

is America. Yeah, we're not gonna

48:53

say there's no racism. It would be stupid to

48:55

say that. But that's not what's causing

48:57

us to holding us back. It

49:00

doesn't make any sense for kids not to go to school.

49:02

Now, in my time my parents, they couldn't

49:04

go to school. Man, they had to take turns to go to school because

49:06

they had to work on a damn farm and they

49:08

can't get past the third grade. All I

49:10

had to do was go to school. All kids have to

49:13

do now is go to school. Don't tell me you can't get an

49:15

education. Don't tell me you can all

49:17

right, I don't want to hear that. Don't tell me there's no opportunities.

49:19

Is it hard yet? But guess what You and I both

49:22

know what our parents teach us. Um

49:24

that we have to work twice as hard,

49:27

be twice as smart. But

49:29

we can do it. We can get ahead. We can be anything we want

49:31

to be. You know when when

49:34

liberals, when liberals think you're

49:36

now too cock and too big for our bridges.

49:38

You know why we're like we are because

49:41

our parents told us that we're just as

49:43

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49:45

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