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you ever wonder what's on the mind of
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a teen? Like actually wonder what's
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on the mind of a teen? I
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do. Sometimes I know that can be a little
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scary, especially as a parent on the go,
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lucky for all of you, I
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found two teens who were willing to talk to me longer
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than five minutes We
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have Glenn and Isabella
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from their teen up podcasts
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straight out of Taiwan,
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welcome to the show.
0:53
Thank you. Thank you for having us here.
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I just want to say, I like to do my flower segment early.
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I've listened to their podcasts. The two of them
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are very well informed, very well-spoken
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great ideas very very
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great chemistry that they have during
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their talks. And it's very intriguing and interesting.
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I'm going to ask the scary questions to the teens,
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to see if the teens can give us parents some answers
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and some guidance to help you guys out along the way.
1:16
So do you think social media
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helps make or maintain friendships?
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Why or why not? And there is no
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wrong and I wanted to let you know, there is no right
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or wrong answer. Just, I love
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to hear perspective.
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Yeah. I'll go first. So I think
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social media, it
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does help make friends like right
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now, I'm a senior and I'm going to college
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soon and I'm going
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to college in America. So I'm making
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a lot of friends through social media with
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my college friends. But I don't
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think that these friendships are
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honestly like verry true
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or very deep because I'm
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talking to a lot of different people on social
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media and I don't, I honestly
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don't remember like what they look like
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or what we talked about. So
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I think on that part, it's great to connect
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with people from all over the world like
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that, but does it make
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like good and deep friendships?
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I think Actual meetups, like person
2:16
to person is, would be better. And
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the part about maintaining friendships.
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I think it does help. If we don't
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have social media, I don't think that we would
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like right now we would call anyone
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to, do like a meetup or anything. Social
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media is there to help us know like
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how's other people's life doing. And
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we could, like for Instagram example,
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we could reply to someone's stories.
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And I think that is super helpful when you want
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to maintain a friendship. Even if it's like a
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elementary. Schoolfriend it's
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been a long time. You haven't talked, but through
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replying like stories, I think that is not
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very awkward and it is a great way to
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catch up with each other
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Same as Isabella. I'm going to the us for
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college this fall, and
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I'm also like meeting a lot of people on. Internet
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through Instagram or Snapchat,
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just like talking to other people.
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And I have to say I have
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met some very interesting
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people that some people who I
3:16
really click with, but I think
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the main thing about social media
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for me is that social media
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is for making friends that you will
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have a real life
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interaction with instead of just
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like the whole friendship only exists
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on social media or online. And
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I think it's very important that friendships or
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relationships in general, like with people
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need to exist in the physical
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world, because there are a lot of
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things that you cannot substitute
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online like eye contact or some.
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body language or stuff like that. And
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I think they, they are very important in
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terms of making friends or having
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a conversation with other people. And as
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far as maintaining friendships, I
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would say it definitely helps. But
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if this is where I have a different opinion
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from Isabella it's like Isabella was
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saying that how you can still connect
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with. Of in the past, like
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elementary school something like that. But
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for me, I think those people if
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you will not meet them anymore,
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say you'll only meet
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them. Maybe in five years,
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I don't really see a point of connecting
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with them or knowing what's happening in their
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life because they're not
4:32
in your life anymore. Keeping
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up this type of relationship or like this
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type of friendship, I think it's very
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time consuming and it doesn't really make
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sense to me at least. Cause you
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will not have a real
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world like meetup or something like
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that.
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Thank you to both of you very strong answers.
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And I'm going to play in the
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middle, as a teacher, right? I'm like the moderator right
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in the middle. I agree with you both the importance
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of eye contact, body language
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using social media as a way to
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start the connection. But not allow that to be
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the only connection is what I'm hearing from
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both of you. And also. sometimes
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you have some people in your life that you just want to check up
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on to see how they're doing and how things
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are going. For example us older people
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use Facebook, right?
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And we have some high school friends that we may have lost
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touch with. We reconnect and it's nice
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to see what they're doing in their lives and things like that.
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On the flip side, I do agree with Glenn
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there's a limit to how much of
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that you should be doing. You
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can check in, it shouldn't be no
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on your phone. Like looking oh, what are they doing now?
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What's the next move? What's the next move. What's the next move? And
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I think even though we
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need to check in on them, see how they're doing. I
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think there should be a time
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of okay, I still have to continue with my life.
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They can't be my life when. Everyone else is doing
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so I do both answers. I love both answers
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and I actually have some students who feel the same way as
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well. What I want to ask you is what has been the most
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challenging part of your life? Like after
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the pandemic as a team what's been the most challenging
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problem?
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pandemic We, yeah, we do have it.
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Here in Taiwan. Like we
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experienced like the seriousness
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of the pandemic around last year
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where we went online for
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a little bit. And then during the summer we couldn't
6:16
really go out and
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right now, actually it's getting also
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a little bit serious, like next week
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we're doing online school. I think most
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challenging part of my life right
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now. I wouldn't say about like
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maintaining friendships. I think like
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online school for me is really hard for me
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to focus, but I don't
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think that really matters now because we're ending our
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senior year soon next week as the last
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week. So
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I have senioritis just say it. I have seen, yeah, it is.
6:45
Yes. Yes. I
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think the pandemic, like I like going
6:50
out sometimes I don't go out like very
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often, but I don't like how I have to
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actually think about where I'm going, because
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there might be too many people or
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I can't go on public transportations
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and stuff like that. Yeah.
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For me the pandemic, I
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know it's like a very privileged thing to say.
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It has never been like a very
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challenging part of our life. And
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I think that's because we were very lucky that our country
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controlled it. Great. But as
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for now, what I'm thinking a lot
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is what's going to happen this fall or in
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the future. And
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it's not necessarily like the most challenging
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part of my life, like
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right now, because it's not happening
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yet. It's just not the sense of not
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being sure what's going to happen in the future because
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we are both moving to a new country
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and we do not know anyone there
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and everything's going to be different and
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starting a new life at the same time.
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And just learning to be an adult at
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the same time. Like it's nerve wracking.
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Yeah, I think that's like the most challenging
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part for me
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now.
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I agree.
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Yeah. You know what
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I appreciate that both of you stated
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that, it wasn't really you didn't really feel
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it as much because you felt like your country
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handle it correctly. And I appreciate that because
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over here, I'm gonna be honest it was a mess. What
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do you think makes your generation unique I
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want to hear your take on it unique
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from let's say my generation or
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know, or even a group, like a few years younger
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than you what makes your generation you need?
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I would like to add this is like how tick-tock.
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Oh, my gosh, Tik TOK. Yes. Take talk makes
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it feel like Denzy is just like
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a lot of mental health issues
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children or kids, but I
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think it's not like it's a bad thing.
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Because like
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for our generation, our parents are more,
8:43
I would say more hardcore, at least
8:45
from my parents. Oh, a lot of people,
8:47
my parents' age in Taiwan,
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they had to build their
8:52
own business or start from
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a very low status in society.
8:57
And they had to work their own way
8:59
up in society. So there are definitely
9:01
going to be a little bit more hardcore on their
9:03
children. Like my parents always
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tell me to. Work
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hard and don't be lazy and make sure
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that I do the work that I'm supposed
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to. And don't take the easy route or
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anything like that. But I think this
9:17
kind of, it does
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make. Our generation a little
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bit, feeling a little bit misunderstood
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because our parents don't know what we're going through.
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And they would sometimes say that our
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generation has it easier than they did.
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I do think that is true, but
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a lot of mental health issues, I
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think. I said
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to be like, have stemmed from technology,
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because of, like cyber bullying or stuff
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like that. And too much time spent
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on Tik TOK, for sure. Tik TOK is a very
9:48
toxic platform, but it also could
9:50
be very fun at the same time. Yeah, I
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think all of these added together
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it makes us who we are.
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For me, I'm also thinking about like the internet
9:59
in general. I think for
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us, we don't really have
10:03
the internet when we are super young, maybe
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before we were 12 or something
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like that the internet just grows exponentially
10:10
after that. In the recent
10:12
years, like Instagram popped up
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and then we have like tik tok and
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YouTube also grew a ton because
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you, it used to be just like a platform
10:22
where people share videos.
10:25
So like maybe my dad would like, show me a funny
10:27
video or something like that. And
10:29
now YouTube, they're like a lot of YouTubers,
10:32
people making contents, like what, like
10:34
us. And I think we
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didn't have that when we were. Younger,
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but for people who are younger than us,
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they have this since
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probably since they have memory and
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I'm not sure, what that's going to do to them
10:50
because they're using tik tok since
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they have like memory, since they can actually
10:55
choose something for themselves. And I think
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where we're at right now is Interesting
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intersection where we when
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we were like very young, we did not have
11:04
an Instagram or like YouTube,
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but now we're in like
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our twenties and
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not now, but like when we're in our twenties,
11:15
we will have all of these technologies
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and this is what I think makes us
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different, like from other generations, because
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we. Grew up,
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with the internet we grew up as
11:26
the internet grew. So I think that's
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like the most interesting
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thing
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How do you feel after
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consuming information in seven
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seconds and then right after
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consuming another piece of information in seven seconds
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without really having time to process it,
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it's just there.
11:45
So for me, because I'm
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a little different and I acknowledge that.
11:51
I don't really use any social media.
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I actually quit Instagram last year
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because I think it's taking too much of my time.
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I'm basically on it all the time. And
12:01
then during the time when
12:04
we locked down, which is like may last
12:06
year, I was on Tik TOK
12:08
all the time. Like it's at the point
12:11
where I think it's scary, cause I would
12:13
just lay on my bed and then
12:15
open tik tok and before
12:18
I even noticed an hour has
12:20
gone by and it's like a super scary,
12:23
I would just spend the whole afternoon looking
12:25
at Tik Tok so I
12:28
just deleted the app. And I
12:31
think for what you're saying, how do we feel
12:33
after consuming an information
12:36
after seven seconds and then, and that
12:38
next thing just come. I think
12:40
it, it really doesn't leave time
12:42
for people to think about things. And
12:45
I wouldn't like me personally,
12:47
I would prefer to learn things or
12:50
consume information
12:52
in longer forms, say
12:55
movies or books. That's what
12:57
I prefer for it now. And
12:59
I think social media and their
13:02
algorithms, like they're really toxic.
13:04
But they sometimes
13:06
they're also really fun. So for me,
13:08
it's like, when I want to use it,
13:10
I would like download the app and use it for
13:12
a day and then delete it. Yeah, I know I can
13:15
contain it. So it's not. My
13:17
whole week away.
13:19
For me I don't know. I actually
13:21
stopped using, TIk Tok for about
13:24
a week. Like I don't, I'm not on it
13:26
very often right now. But I was
13:28
on it like all the time and.
13:31
I think the seven second thing
13:34
it's it has shortened,
13:36
like my attention span,
13:39
for sure. I have realized
13:41
I could not stay as focused in class
13:44
or I can't even finish one
13:46
YouTube video. the YouTube video has
13:48
to be about five minutes for me to finish
13:50
it. If it's more than 20 minutes, I would
13:52
have to like open it and then watch it for three
13:54
minutes and then stop and then come back
13:56
to it. After a while. I don't, I, yeah,
13:58
I think that is a bad thing. And
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I honestly don't remember much of
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what I watched on Tik TOK.
14:05
Yeah, I think it's very toxic and
14:07
I should definitely cut my time on
14:10
Tik TOK. But
14:13
sometimes it's just a fun, like
14:15
I send a lot of like funny tik tok
14:17
to my friend and it's just like for a good laugh.
14:20
And I think that is a very
14:22
good thing because I could
14:24
just, I could also talk about
14:26
it with my friends and some of the Tik Tok that
14:28
I watch are like informational. They,
14:30
would tell me some facts, like
14:33
for the day or something. And it would
14:35
just be a fun facts for our friends
14:37
too. But I think that's the
14:39
only good part that I've been from
14:41
it really, otherwise,
14:43
I don't like how it shortened my
14:46
attention span for sure.
14:48
Wait I want to add something. So one
14:51
thing good about tik tok that
14:54
I recently noticed is
14:56
that there are some very good musicians on
14:58
Tik TOK, and I think we should
15:00
give, take talk that It lets a lot of
15:03
really talented people to be discovered. And
15:06
I think that's a good thing.
15:07
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What is something you wish adults understood
16:08
about kids or teens today?
16:10
I think for me is that they
16:12
adults need to know that we
16:14
are B can do more than
16:16
they think. I think like in general, Maybe
16:20
it's like a culture thing, because I think in
16:22
our culture they tend to set a
16:24
path for everyone to go
16:26
through instead of letting us explore
16:29
our own path. It's not, it does not necessarily
16:31
apply to my parents very
16:34
likely. But I think. The way
16:36
our school works it's
16:38
that they set a path where everyone,
16:40
and they did not give us any freedom
16:42
to explore different things.
16:45
And I think that's very, that's
16:48
a very sad thing because.
16:53
One thing that I think is very important
16:55
is to, as far as to learn responsibility,
16:58
and I think what the school,
17:01
or like the whole system is doing
17:03
is not letting us to learn responsibility
17:05
enough because they are doing
17:08
everything for us. They're planning out our time.
17:10
I think it's very important to just let
17:12
us know the consequences. Let us know that
17:15
actions leads to consequences and
17:17
we need to. Be able to handle the consequences
17:19
ourselves or think
17:21
before we act. And I
17:23
think that's like the that's,
17:26
that should be like the biggest lesson
17:28
the school teach us, or
17:31
just because it's very important in
17:33
life and it applies to any
17:36
stage in life, in my opinion.
17:40
Yeah, I agree with what Glenn says.
17:42
And I also want to add that this is a little
17:44
bit like towards my parents. I think
17:47
it's to give
17:49
us time,
17:51
like sometimes. We
17:53
can't rush the things that
17:56
we want to do, or we can't rush
17:58
we need to take time to maybe understand
18:00
a situation or take
18:02
the time to understand how to do something.
18:05
I think it's also a cultural thing how
18:07
parents are a little bit. Controlling
18:10
sometimes. I think they should just
18:12
give us the time to understand it ourselves
18:15
and try to also,
18:18
yeah. Give us the freedom to do ourselves
18:20
instead of telling us to do what,
18:22
like right now, or you
18:25
should. Or sometimes
18:27
they would say why are you so afraid of
18:29
this situation? It's nothing to be afraid
18:31
of. Just go do it. But sometimes
18:34
it's really important for us to take
18:36
in like the surrounding and understanding
18:39
there what situation we're put
18:41
in order to process anything.
18:43
Instead of just pushing us and cramming
18:45
information into us, My mom is
18:47
a little bit like, it's not a totally
18:50
bad thing. It's yeah she's just a little bit
18:52
controlling sometimes and
18:55
I think, be
18:57
able to see, give me the freedom and time to
18:59
do the things that I want. But it's
19:01
not like I'm saying she stops
19:03
me from anything that I want. It's just, it has,
19:05
I have to go through a lot of persuasion,
19:07
a lot of conversations to be
19:09
able to reach the point that
19:12
we both are in agreement.
19:14
And I think that
19:16
also. Maybe, yeah, maybe
19:19
it's also a cultural thing. Like they're a little bit
19:21
like more traditional. It's hard
19:23
for them to sometimes accept
19:26
our point of views or
19:28
they would think that we're not mature enough
19:30
because of the, like the
19:32
way we act or the way we think. They
19:36
have to understand that where we're
19:38
also like growing up and
19:42
it's sometimes okay.
19:44
To let go and let us try things out.
19:48
So what I'm understanding
19:50
is that your mom does
19:53
give you pushback, but the she also allows you
19:55
space. Half conversation,
19:57
they have a little sense of persuasion. She allows
19:59
you the space to to help her with her
20:02
understanding of you. And then there are at times
20:04
that it works and then sometimes it does. Yeah.
20:06
But at least, yeah. At least she gives you that space,
20:08
which is very important. Very important because this
20:11
culture is over here. That, it's
20:13
what I say, this is what you're doing. And then that's it.
20:15
There's no conversation. There's no persuasion.
20:18
In that process you've worked on, you've
20:20
worked on your communication skills, right? You've
20:23
worked on problem solving. And you've also worked
20:25
on the audit persuasion, which is something that, is
20:27
key. I made it, it sounds funny, but it's key,
20:29
right? Sometimes you just have to, you
20:33
have to help people see your side,
20:35
just for understanding, just for a fresh perspective.
20:38
That's something I think we do not enough
20:40
of it's always this is my side
20:42
and this it. And I
20:44
don't care what you have to think about. Okay. What you got to say,
20:46
but it leaves no room for conversation and nobody
20:48
can grow from that. Her giving you that is
20:51
I love to hear things like that. So thank you. Sorry.
20:53
My teacher brain came on.
20:55
No, it's
20:57
okay. Glenn, what you got from me?
20:58
It's going to be sound a bit weird. I think
21:02
for me, okay. With anything.
21:04
Cause my, at
21:07
least like at this point in my life,
21:09
I'm just thinking that everything will work out
21:11
for the best and that
21:13
I'm, I don't mean to offend anyone I'm not
21:16
religious or anything, but I feel like it's
21:18
not like necessarily God, but like the world
21:20
works in its own mysterious way
21:22
that whatever comes next, I'll just deal
21:24
with. So I wouldn't
21:27
say anything bad
21:29
about my parents, because I think it
21:31
is what it is. And I can't really change,
21:34
obviously I can't change my parents.
21:36
So I can't say, oh, I'm
21:39
done. I want a different parent. No,
21:41
I can't do that. So I
21:43
guess it's just it's just like how you do
21:46
things with anyone actually just like conversation
21:49
and.
21:50
And I can't change who you are, but I can
21:52
gain my outlook of you. Yeah.
21:55
Yeah. It sounds like you, you're a person
21:57
who rides the wave. We call them the
22:00
Carmen. You ride the wave, what's going on.
22:02
You handle things as they come along. You never really
22:04
up or down just stay as even as possible.
22:06
And that's what that sounds like. Am I getting it right
22:08
here?
22:09
Yeah. Yeah,
22:10
definitely. It's not weird. You're not
22:12
weird. It doesn't sound weird. It's
22:14
your perspective. And that's awesome
22:17
to have seen the positive
22:20
outlook on things, knowing
22:22
and accepting that things will change and
22:24
that you will eventually grow from it and have to
22:26
move on. There's nothing wrong with that at all. So
22:30
your take is just as great as Isabella
22:33
all no, that let's see here. Let's see what
22:35
what is something that bothers you about school?
22:37
I was just asked that anything that bother you about school,
22:40
like teachers, what teachers can do
22:43
their perspective, their take, how they handle certain
22:45
situations.
22:49
I think, school is almost done. Yeah.
22:55
I guess teachers our teachers
22:57
could, I
23:00
don't know, like I,
23:04
okay. When students don't
23:06
do the things that teachers
23:09
expect them to do, I
23:12
don't think it is necessarily
23:15
the best way to just get. Because
23:18
if we don't know what, where your
23:20
expectation is set, we,
23:23
how are we supposed to do
23:25
things the way that you expect us to do?
23:27
So I think if it's better to
23:30
communicate or like
23:32
what the teacher is expecting from students
23:34
or for students to ask more questions
23:36
about what they are, they
23:39
want us to.
23:43
Yeah, that's a priority, right? That's more important.
23:45
So how can I live up to
23:47
your expectations if I don't know your expectations,
23:49
you expect me to do something and be a certain
23:51
way, but you tell me. Yeah.
23:55
Yeah. And it's,
23:57
it's that, I'm a teacher, I'm an adult.
23:59
You're a kid you're just supposed to listen to what I say.
24:01
And then that's okay. But
24:03
how would, what is it supposed to look like? You
24:06
want me to figure it out? So I love
24:08
that Glenn.
24:10
I am actually going to say the exact same thing
24:12
that Isabella just said. I think teachers
24:15
should also learn how to communicate
24:17
with students because some
24:19
teachers, at least for
24:21
us, they just assume,
24:25
or like they think that we should just listen to
24:27
them no matter what. And
24:30
that is just wrong because, we're still
24:32
people and we still need our own
24:34
opinions and our own ways of doing things.
24:36
Yeah, I think conversation is key.
24:39
Oh, and wait on, add something.
24:41
One thing that I find that
24:45
teachers probably shouldn't do as often
24:47
is to bring in their emotions. From
24:50
other classes or from their own
24:52
personal life. I it's like
24:54
they walk into the classroom and they're mad
24:56
already and we don't know why.
24:59
And yeah.
25:01
I don't think that is a great relationship
25:04
between the teachers and the students, for sure.
25:07
Yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to be perfectly
25:09
honest with you. I fall victim to that. This is
25:11
right the human side. I feel that sometimes
25:14
I teach PE. So if a
25:16
class before me gave me a hard time, I've already
25:18
had this little thing
25:21
with me. So when the next class comes in,
25:23
it's, on them extra,
25:25
and sometimes it doesn't require that. And that's something I
25:27
know I need to work. Just finding that downtime
25:29
in between classes to just take a deep breath,
25:32
even though we have a one minute break
25:34
between classes. So as one class is leaving
25:36
the other classes rolling in and as
25:39
a teacher, I'm telling you like the human side
25:41
of, trying to recollect our thoughts while something
25:43
else is popping up can be difficult. And
25:46
I know, like I said, I speak
25:48
for experience personally. That's something I
25:50
need to work. Because I've had
25:52
cases come in and they're like, what
25:55
happened? Oh, you had the
25:57
class before us. Okay. But co okay,
25:59
go drink some water and come back. I'll
26:05
take the water, because it also
26:07
the human side, they know that I'm not
26:10
that person all the time. So obviously
26:12
something happens. It's the recognition it's
26:14
recognizing right. Having that. The
26:17
communication back and forth, that acknowledgement
26:19
of self between teacher
26:22
and student, that we should all have.
26:24
My kids would come in and make a joke and I'm like, all right, whatever
26:26
we get out of here. But but it's, building
26:28
that relationship because now what
26:31
I've done is I left the door open for them to
26:33
come to me with something. They feel more comfortable sharing,
26:35
some of the issues and things going on. If
26:38
I'm a little bit more open with my emotions
26:40
and okay. As opposed to being
26:43
dictator teacher. So I believe what
26:45
you guys are talking about is very important.
26:47
And thank you for bringing that up. And hopefully more
26:49
of my teacher friends are listening to this to
26:53
get that. So what projects
26:56
are outside ventures that you have going
26:58
on outside of school?
27:00
Mainly for us is yes,
27:02
our podcast teen up. We basically
27:04
talk about teenagers. Thoughts
27:07
on the wonders of the world questions?
27:09
Like where did
27:11
the universe come from or what
27:13
is success? And currently we
27:15
are talking about dreams, like
27:18
what are dreams or what
27:20
do they do to our like mental
27:24
issues?
27:24
We don't really have any other projects
27:27
going on. It's mainly our podcast.
27:29
And it's called teen
27:31
up again and you can
27:33
find that on basically any platform
27:36
you could also find us on Instagram
27:39
at teen up dot podcast.
27:42
We're also on Tik TOK with the same handle
27:45
and yeah, that's basically
27:47
it.
27:48
Awesome. I will be sure to put those
27:50
ways to find you in the show notes. So
27:53
you can link up with Glenn and
27:56
Isabella. Thank you
27:58
so much for joining
28:00
me. You are now considered a villagers
28:03
And helping us as features,
28:05
helping us as parents, helping out other teams,
28:07
helping us as people. And I appreciate
28:10
your time. Be sure
28:12
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28:19
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28:24
I prefer a good pods, Spotify and
28:27
wherever you get your
28:29
podcasts, I always like to end with a quote,
28:32
any and everything you do with passion and
28:34
grit. Find your passion and
28:37
get to it as a
28:39
coach. Can I see y'all later.
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