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want to talk about on this latest edition of

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Opinions Matter? Lisa,

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is that

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her name? Yep, Lisa is the lady who got in

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contact with us and she wrote the following. By

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the way, if you want to get in

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contact with us, you can send us an

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email at any time to allopinionsmattershowatgmail.com, allopinionsmattershowatgmail.com. Just

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before you read out the message, I just

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want to point out, do not read the

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housing estate or the... Yes, yes, yes. But

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we can say that it's based in

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Fingmas West. But at the moment

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we can say the estate because there is... It's irrelevant anyway,

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it's irrelevant. Oh no, it's not, there's murder going on in

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the estate. Okay, but let me read this. This

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is from Lisa. She says, can you bring

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this up on your show because there's murder

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going on over what happened. My

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husband is facing assault charges because

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he gave a neighbour a dig

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yesterday out on the road. But

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it wasn't over nothing. His

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son and our son are both seven and

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in the same class together. And

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their son is a little bollocks. He's

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been bullying my son for months. and

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the school will do absolutely nothing about it.

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My son came home yesterday crying and my

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husband said enough is enough and called at

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the door and got into a row with

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the dad. He said that

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our son needs help to stop being a

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baby and harden up and my

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husband saw red and gave him a

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dig because he deserved it. Any

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of the neighbors who seen it happen agreed

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with him giving him one because he

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has done nothing to stop his

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bully son. Any parent

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would do the exact same thing. The

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police were called and all the whole

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of the avenues talking about it please

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bring this up and that is from

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a lady called Lisa. So let's put

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this into context. Seven year old kid

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being bullied by a kid who happens

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to live nearby and

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daddy's not at all happy. By the way

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on the same avenue you live literally five

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doors from each other. And daddy's not at

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all happy and he saw red when the

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young fella was upset and

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he hit him

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a dig basically. I think he did right. You think he

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did right? I think he did right. So

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hang on. So this

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young fella is picking on Lisa's son. You're

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not going to punch the seven year old his bully new son.

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No, no, no obviously. The

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young fella is being bullied. Please

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don't tell me you're going to be all left on this

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lefty. No, no I was about to say more or less

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two wrongs don't make a right. So

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this young fella gets an example of his dad being

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a macho man going around and punching the lights off

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the neighbour. Oh that's the way to deal with him.

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No, that's the father from what I believe in this

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story. And we've got several accounts

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of what's going on by the way from just some people

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who live in this state. If you do live in this

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state and you want to get in on this, and we're

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not naming these states, but if you live there you'll know.

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But it's Fingmas West by the way isn't it? Yes,

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it is Fingmas West. It is Fingmas West, it's a

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huge area. Yeah, I'm just looking at the, that's as

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many houses are in. Yeah, a couple of hundred houses

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there. Anyway, the point being, I'm arguing that this isn't

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the way to sort this out, to go around punching

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the lights off a neighbour. That's the way to deal

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with... with bullying is it? Stick up for your kids.

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Stick up for your kid alright. Yeah, no bother at

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all. I know some parents say this and they're talking

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shite and all that but I genuinely mean this yeah

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with my hand on my heart. If

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someone laid a finger on my child and I'm

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talking about a kid yeah I obviously wouldn't start

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going around beating up 10 year old kids and

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stuff like that. I

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might threaten them verbally but I wouldn't beat them up. But

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if I was getting no joy from the parents because

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the parents of bullies never believed their kids are bullies.

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Yeah. Yeah I'd agree with that. Yep.

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So this father was obviously in complete denial. My

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little son like you heard there he's a little

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bollocks. The son is a little bollocks. The father

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doesn't believe us. The

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only thing to do is to threaten the

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father. That's the only thing to do. Your

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son okay he's the difference with okay he went

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over to the father and he wagged his finger

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at him and you get your son under control

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blah blah blah. He escalated somewhat and he hit

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him a dig. Because the

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dad said I'll get your young fellas

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to grow up for God's sake. Okay

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so harden up for God's sake. Woke

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Adrian believes that. No I mean don't

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call me woke Adrian I hate that expression.

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I'm merely saying that what does it solve?

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What actually was achieved by his

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dad hitting the other dad? What did they achieve? The

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fist can solve many many problems in the world.

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Would it stop the young fella bullying? I'd say

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probably not. No probably not. That's the

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whole question here. Is this

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fella hitting his neighbor digging the snot going to

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stop the young fella bullying? My

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belief is no. Are you even way off the

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mark? So then this is just bravado behavior? No

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it's not. I would do

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time if someone hurt

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my children. Okay but it's not this father that hurt

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your children. He's the father of

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the little bollocks. He's only seven. We're not talking about

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a 17 year old. It's not a brick shit house.

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It doesn't matter. It's not about a seven year old.

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Bullying is bullying. I'm not going to argue that point.

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But he should go to the school. He should he's

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just made the situation worse for his child. No I

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don't think he has. He absolutely has. I

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know but Adrian you're a what's the word? What's

5:56

the word for someone like you? I don't know. What's

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the word for someone like me? What's it called? type

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of person that we've discussed this before in the show and

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you'd happily stand by and watch someone be... No,

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no, no, I didn't say that. You've never done

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a motion... All I'm arguing is... Tell me, you

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tell me, other than a bit of bravado, what

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has been achieved for this young seven year old

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child to stop that other young fellow bullying him?

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Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

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If anything, it could make things worse. So okay,

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the dad will probably say to the young fellow,

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you leave little Johnny across the road there, you

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leave him alone. Yeah, it would have probably never

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been said to him before. And

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that might be the case, but I doubt the young

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fellow probably will. 0-8-5, 8-2-5, 26-26 is our WhatsApp number.

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Let me kick off with a message from

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a guy in a very similar situation. Sorry

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I can't come on there, but just on my

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comment there, basically I had an issue with it. Same

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thing as what he had really... When

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approaching him literally about ten times, he

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wouldn't do anything about it. So the second last time

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I approached him, I told him straight

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out, basically if he doesn't do anything about it, I'm going

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to take it out with him. So it's all right, don't

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I? And I tell him

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my child has never been bullied since the best thing I

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ever done. The only thing is though, he

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did get a two year suspended sentence. To me it

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was worth it. You see, a two year

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suspended sentence. He's been telling me he did wrong. Go on,

7:13

tell him he did wrong. A two year, what has been

7:15

achieved by him getting a two year suspended sentence? So he's

7:18

going back to type every sentence. I know, it never went

7:20

near him again. It's worth it. Job

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done. Job done. And worth having a criminal record. He

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has a suspended sentence. It means he has a criminal

7:26

record. But he didn't say he just threw a punch

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now. Listen back to what he

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said. Sorry I can't come on there, but just on

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my comment there, basically I had an issue with it.

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Same thing as what he had really. When

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I approached him literally about ten times, he

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wouldn't do anything about it. So the second last time

7:43

I approached him, I told him straight

7:45

out, basically if he doesn't do anything about it, I'm going

7:47

to take it out with him. So it's all right, don't

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I? And I tell

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him my child has never been bullied since the best thing

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I ever done. The Only thing is

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though, he did kill two years suspended sentence. The

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messaging back to those he small he said was donors

8:02

newly opened a roof at the moment which means I

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assume he hit him a dig. Yeah. And

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I've got a two year suspended sentence for souls.

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What's. The point in this was

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achieved. Sought. A deal for

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the probably wasn't touched again but the size of

8:15

criminal record doesn't matter. You do whatever you take

8:17

me to Jesus you're an awful father. You really

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are your spleen you you would have your own

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not be able to travelers who america interest for

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the sake a hidden somebody. I really dig your

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spine of father's no no no you are signs

8:28

do have been smiling who are fun you can

8:30

deal with these things and away the doesn't evolve

8:32

Hidden somebody a dig you respond then your own

8:34

opinions matter how are you then. Are

8:37

so grass goods and I believe you're on your

8:39

whole years. Or hour before sort of

8:41

his as and twenty x rays. Are hated her

8:43

midlands around the no, I don't. Know

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I can't I can't complain. I am

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only back anyway. Lynn L. What's your

8:51

view on this? A father hitting another

8:53

father, a dig at try and stop

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and bullying his child's rights of his

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side bullying his eyes. were

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likely side of my comment. Two wrongs: Don't

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make rice. And that's exactly. That's

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exactly what I'm trying to argue. Everything

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I. Live here. Just said if he ever wanted to

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bring your kids the way. To. America or

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wherever as the cargo could is a criminal.

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Or a suspended sentence. Jeremy, You might think

9:15

it's not a serious it is. it's still

9:17

a criminal conviction. divine. I use their times

9:19

was didn't lose out on a suspended sentence.

9:22

The Northerners exactly You're you're You're guilty of

9:24

this crime but we just won't send you

9:26

to show that all owner was are not.

9:28

Replay probably do a router and

9:30

observe problem of are you. Okay,

9:33

overpowered, he's in back onto Jones. be back

9:35

on to us as is it off the

9:38

roof of the moment and he says it

9:40

was just one point. Stuff bizarre that he

9:42

got to suspend or on bernstein care from

9:44

for just one point, has killed people exactly.

9:47

The point is he and for the sake

9:49

of this one points he got a criminal

9:51

record that makes no sense to me at

9:54

all and and panel and underwear. of something

9:56

that happened and bolland our years ago

9:58

where i owe that boxer for one

10:00

punch and then he did do his

10:02

time for it but when he got out he got

10:04

going to Australia somehow or another I don't know how

10:06

but he's on the exact same thing now again in

10:08

Australia. Oh lovely, lovely right so

10:11

okay but with regard to what Lisa was saying she

10:13

said the whole avenue

10:18

was talking about it a lot of the neighbours think

10:20

he did right but it is two wrongs don't make

10:22

a right sure they don't. No two wrongs don't make

10:24

a right and again I don't agree with the

10:26

child with Bully Dyer like that. No obviously

10:28

not, obviously not. I do feel

10:30

for the child but obviously the way your man

10:32

reacted saying all he needs to harden up and

10:34

grow a pair that's not the way to go

10:37

on either. No and you can understand. He needs

10:39

to harden up and grow a pair but yeah he ran into the guards

10:41

as soon as he got hit. Yeah no you

10:43

can understand, well I can certainly understand

10:45

the anger of the father when he

10:48

said tell him to harden up for God's sake.

10:51

I wonder if he has the best answer but.

10:55

No I can understand

10:57

why he would be a little bit angry over

10:59

that to be honest. Yeah no I wasn't saying

11:01

it was a call. But it still doesn't warrant

11:03

giving the father a dig does it? No

11:06

I don't know what he could have done but

11:10

like hitting somebody as we both said

11:12

he has a criminal record now and

11:14

he can't travel or

11:16

he might have he's up the police were

11:18

called so you know it's not

11:21

worth it having a criminal record to punch somebody for

11:23

bullying like it's. And

11:25

that's exactly the point Jeremy. It's fighting violence

11:27

and stuff. Now Nisa who sent us a

11:29

message her husband she said the guys

11:31

were called I don't know if he's being charged but

11:34

if this guy who the exact

11:36

same as that message from John that we played a

11:38

moment ago this guy could end up in court with

11:40

a criminal conviction for a moment of madness.

11:42

Well again I will do. I could hope for his getting

11:44

judged all and where he'll get off. Well

11:47

yeah I'm the kind of parent that will

11:49

do whatever it takes and imagine if he

11:51

did nothing and that bullying. I'm not saying

11:54

he should have done nothing. Nobody has

11:56

said he should have done nothing But

11:58

yes, violence is not the answer. Also known

12:00

as it is due to the of these to

12:02

these talks. Like

12:04

I do agree that yourself on unlike

12:06

my comment, was the best up. enough

12:09

away that he shot the done by

12:11

one or two wrongs. or he's inciting

12:13

violence to stop violence. Yes no is

12:15

always a non was approaching the father

12:17

speak into the father having and I

12:19

was a father is moon things hidden

12:21

media is muddy greens a to whole

12:23

new level so rarely speak and could

12:25

invite the fodder is always the like.

12:27

I did a lot because to say it off actual

12:29

thought of is trying to get some pissed off. All

12:32

he like fail he needs to hard not to go

12:34

pear he's a seven year old boy. The end of

12:36

the that. Know agree. I know

12:38

you're lying on the border with the

12:40

father to say anything on lads. We

12:42

were doing a completely different show today

12:44

but a seven year old boy who

12:46

took his own noise because because bullion

12:48

we be having a completely only yeah

12:50

sometimes us congress know this isn't becomes

12:52

on the Grammys moist soil never arrives

12:54

home crying because all will march down

12:56

to personal to the child on say

12:58

to towards you put your finger my

13:01

soon again banal on our our article

13:03

said your.and then I will go to

13:05

the fodder I'm whatever happens happens. Whenever

13:08

I hear his ring and is that level that

13:10

you're throwing digs and somebody that's where is wrong.

13:13

That's where where you step over the line. oh

13:15

no you do every works you do as a

13:17

parent is your job to protect your children. You

13:19

do whatever takes us that you'd like to the

13:21

courts are we were just if it was if

13:23

it was to protect rituals and was how is

13:25

it protecting your children hitting somebody. A day

13:27

how in God's name? Because asked us.

13:30

Use your anger and your and your own abilities

13:32

and roll your anger by. Not of I am

13:34

now I'm not a violent person. You. Are too

13:36

young to have while I'm said, why would a lower

13:38

yourself as a little cause i would not

13:40

see modules sorry john has been back on

13:42

who did exactly this i know how he

13:44

wants to address some issues are displayed on

13:47

both sides this is is another voice overs

13:49

on okay hang on here we go by

13:51

wasn't gonna get a wrestler wasn't him to

13:53

milan as when you see your child not

13:55

going to sleep every night coins is monica

13:57

skills when you see little and up as

14:00

You don't know what you're going to do. Don't judge unless you

14:03

see your child like that. I'm here to protect my child and

14:05

I will do anything for her. At the

14:07

end of the day I'll approach him ten times and

14:10

he would not do anything about it. So,

14:12

because I'm faulting the end of the day,

14:14

you do it if your child was

14:17

like that. Interestingly John, we're having this

14:19

conversation now. So Jeremy, God forbid you

14:21

were ever faced with that situation. He

14:25

said in that message I wasn't thinking of a criminal conviction.

14:27

I wasn't thinking of ending up in court. You

14:29

can now in advance of something like this happen, listen to

14:32

the thing about it. Sir you guys, did

14:34

you listen to what he said? Did you just listen to what he

14:36

said? Yeah, I did listen to what he said. But

14:38

he should have been thinking about how this is going

14:40

to go tits up. He has no regrets because his

14:43

job didn't... Lauren,

14:45

your own opinions matter. How are you Lauren?

14:48

Hey, I'll go, I'll go. Well Lauren, two

14:51

wrongs don't make a right as what Lynn

14:53

was saying. It's what I'm saying as well. But

14:56

Rambo here would go and punch the lights out of

14:58

any dad whose son came within

15:00

inches of his child. No,

15:02

well I heard the guard call at me

15:04

last year by her parents. So

15:07

my daughter, like I didn't hear anybody, but

15:09

my daughter was just bullied when she was

15:11

a soldier. I made her life and I

15:13

was like, this is misery again. This is

15:15

God, she's been totally confident. So

15:17

during one of the days last year she reminded me

15:20

that she was leaving school and I actually was leaving

15:22

school. But mother and the daughter were in the car

15:24

and they were driving beside her, watching like a scary

15:26

letter. The mother was. And

15:28

I said, well I'm not having

15:30

any of that. Well not when the mother is going to

15:32

involve myself. So I got to push the school and I

15:34

said, look it goes on, I'm not stalking myself. So

15:37

I told my daughter then the next day, I'm

15:39

going to ask her, wait till I get there

15:41

and I can see. And then you

15:43

start walking by my car. She started walking by the

15:45

car, the same thing happened. Then they must have

15:47

caught my car because it stopped and the mother was

15:50

gone out. So I pulled my car over into

15:52

the whole lane so she couldn't get by me. Told

15:54

her to wind the window down and I let

15:56

her know that. And no

15:58

one said I turned. All

16:00

options have consequences and the consequences for

16:03

you are like there's no way in

16:05

general terms where I said the consequences

16:07

weren't going to be very good on

16:09

the alcohol. So later

16:11

on that day the guy heard a car, I

16:14

seen a six-sixth normal corner on my phone and

16:16

he was saying, look, I said, look, it's nothing

16:18

to happen. I said, I was shouting at your

16:20

one guy, I might of course do whatever on

16:22

her. And he said, look, she could charge you.

16:25

And I said, well, can I

16:28

get her charged for intimidating my

16:30

underage daughter? And he said, absolutely you can. And I

16:32

said, would you make sure you let her know that

16:34

that's what's going to happen if I get charged? Right.

16:41

The argument is here that two wrongs don't make

16:43

a right. Well, you

16:45

know what, Adrian, well, I've never seen

16:47

that car that's due again. My daughter, she

16:49

gave me a big blowback. She

16:52

said, well, thank you so much, ma'am, for doing that.

16:55

And I hadn't been a king after that. I'm not

16:57

going to have to do that. It was over. So

17:00

you're glad you did what you did? Oh,

17:02

my God. Look, I have to restrain

17:04

myself. I did have to

17:06

restrain myself in a car. I

17:08

stayed in a car. Well, she knew. She knew by

17:10

me what I would see before I said for her.

17:13

And absolutely, of course, absolutely. Like Jeremy

17:15

said, I will do absolutely anything for

17:17

her. I would happily

17:19

take a charge for my kids. And you know

17:21

what, Lauren, if you were standing beside me, I'd

17:24

give you a hug, because you are a proper,

17:26

proper parent. The

17:31

only thing that... This just shows you

17:33

how narcissistic Adrian is. The only

17:35

thing Adrian will be worried about is, oh, I can't go

17:38

on a cruise to America anymore. Like, fucks.

17:40

No, this is what you are. No,

17:43

can you go with your bloody children for God's sake.

17:45

I can't go to Sydney on my holidays. There's bigger

17:47

fish to fry than I can't go to Sydney on

17:49

my holidays. No, no, no, no, no. You need to

17:51

think outside the box before you start throwing digs. Think

17:54

of the consequences, the potential consequences. Think

17:56

of the consequences, as Lauren was saying,

17:58

think of the consequences... the consequences of allowing

18:00

that to continue and your child... Nobody

18:03

has said don't intervene. You aren't saying

18:05

that. You are. Nobody has

18:07

said that. All anybody is saying is don't

18:09

bring it to that new level. Don't

18:11

bring it down as low as the other kid has brought

18:13

us. You fight far and far. You

18:16

can argue the point with them. You can

18:18

scream at them but there's no need to

18:20

hit them. Now some people, and Lauren you'll

18:22

agree with me, some families who are scummy,

18:25

they only know violence don't they? That's all

18:27

you understand. Yeah, I mean they're not afraid

18:29

of the guys, they're not whatever. You have

18:31

to kind of say, well I can't believe

18:33

that. Families are afraid of people that are

18:36

bigger than them and stronger than them or

18:38

whatever. Families only pick on people that are

18:40

smaller than themselves. Absolutely, if you stand up,

18:42

yeah absolutely it would stop. More than likely

18:45

it would stop. Okay,

18:49

so two wrongs, two make a right then do they?

18:52

And when it comes to your kids,

18:54

I mean if I spend the whole

18:56

of your time doing my job and

18:58

the school, the schoolwork, the schoolwork, the

19:00

other, I let them do whatever. But

19:02

as I said, once a parent is

19:04

brought into it, the girls are up

19:07

and that's my job then to step

19:09

in with it. You know

19:11

because if they're not going to do anything, if it's

19:13

outside school ground or whatever, then I have

19:15

to intervene, absolutely I have to intervene. Alright

19:18

Lauren, stay there for one second. Again,

19:20

this isn't about intervening, this is

19:23

about throwing digs. That's

19:25

the difference Lauren. Okay, I

19:28

understand it but I can see where that parent came from. When

19:33

a man tried and said, well your kidney

19:35

is a 12 and up, and

19:38

I see that, I would absolutely add

19:42

that to my goals and cause the guards. I

19:44

mean if I was that little boy, a 7 year old boy,

19:46

I'd have to move school because I'd be in the dark today,

19:48

I mean I'd be in the dark today. Alright,

19:50

do me a favour Lauren, stay in the line there for one second

19:52

if we can please. Our number is 085-825-2626. This

19:58

is Matt. So

20:00

let's go down

20:02

team. Yo man

20:04

don't any wrong there hit the outfit. If

20:06

your outfit got smite room I'm telling him

20:09

that his own son should stand up for himself. Cause

20:13

it's not making any sense, him saying that and then

20:15

he's gone ringing the police saying he got shot because

20:17

he got slapped. You know what

20:19

I mean? So he's on C fucking. Fairly

20:23

for the, yeah now. And

20:26

like if you got the skills, the skills, our kids are

20:28

on the in skills for a few hours then. What if

20:30

they were else on the skill like you said, they live on

20:32

the same road. So it's gonna

20:34

continue on. Yeah

20:38

I don't know. I

20:40

wouldn't really have to go, but I wouldn't say your mind

20:42

is wrong for a hit and you're not gonna slap anyway.

20:45

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21:35

it is Lisa who highlighted a story

21:37

of something that happened in Finglas recently.

21:39

Their young fella was being bullied by

21:41

a boy who happens

21:44

to be a neighbor. The kids are only seven.

21:46

Anyway, daddy went over, he had enough, enough was

21:48

enough when the young fella came home yesterday crying.

21:51

He called to the door, got into a

21:53

row with the father. He

21:55

said that our son needs to stop being a baby

21:57

and harden up. And my husband saw red and

21:59

yellow. gave him a dig because he deserved it. Any of

22:01

the neighbours who saw it happen agree

22:04

with him, giving him one because he

22:07

has done nothing to stop his bully son.

22:11

This message came into us a month ago. Make sure

22:13

there's no names, but no there isn't. I

22:15

can see it. So let me read

22:17

this message and it's just come into us a moment ago and it says,

22:20

lads, I live on that road so

22:23

don't mention my name because that family

22:25

are scumbags. He deserved the

22:27

sap. That little boy is only

22:29

seven but he's a terror. He

22:32

does be around in the shops hassling people

22:34

all the time. At seven? Oh

22:36

sure, that's the same my shop, yeah. Seven?

22:39

Yeah, yeah, those kids are yours. That is

22:41

just as bad. Two bullies went off crying

22:43

when he got a sap, called me the

22:45

letter K. So basically

22:48

she believed that his sap... Yeah, he was number one man,

22:50

why did he go off to the guards? What did he

22:52

just sort it out between themselves? I don't know,

22:54

he was obviously obsessed. Adrian would have baked him a cake. There

22:57

you go, you... no, no, it's not funny. I know your

22:59

bully's... I know your bully's me, so

23:01

here's a cake for you. No. Let's

23:03

be friends. If you get a grip... Let's

23:06

be friends, yeah. Okay, let's take out a double-barreled shotgun

23:08

then. No, seven shotguns. But where

23:10

do you stop? The point of trying to make is

23:12

violence is not the answer to prevent your son being

23:14

bullied. And that's it, it's as simple as that. The

23:16

only thing to... All that lefty all you like. It

23:18

is lefty. It's not. It's weak.

23:21

It's not. It is, it's weak. Let

23:24

me go to Sinead, you're on Opinions

23:26

Matter. How are you, Sinead? Good,

23:29

there he is. Good, thanks, Sinead. Two

23:32

wrongs don't make a right, or do they? In

23:34

this case, they do, you know, like people are

23:36

talking about one punch who killed someone. So that

23:38

child had to bully him, that other child, what if

23:40

that bully punched that child and killed him? Was that

23:42

all right? No, of course not. Of course not. So

23:44

what could... that man, that when he went to his

23:46

door and said, that child had won a head, no,

23:48

he'd won a head, and fucking answered back to himself

23:50

and said he was ringing the fucking police. No, I

23:53

agree, the calendar guy. That's a hypocrite. Yeah,

23:55

I agree. That was very, very hypocritical of

23:57

people. Your son should hand himself to a

23:59

police officer. What are your? Hey, I'm gonna

24:01

read Nine. I nice to talk it out. You

24:03

know I agree with you on that point of

24:05

you Ma'am When I read the whole join, I

24:07

heard the whole story and then I saw Jersey

24:09

be readily die right. when lead the adults of

24:11

get bullied or a for hims or decrease tail

24:13

help some malice or to. Hit reach for

24:15

one to try and get bullied or

24:17

stereotypes tool for the protesters leave him

24:19

as a does make sense except he

24:21

he he is disorders homes he had

24:23

your bags and one Sia to manage

24:25

troubled wants to earn that was afraid

24:27

of couldn't score is already for hims

24:29

Calgary did the toilet being bullied or

24:31

you want to hard not to have

24:33

is clearly a suicide as well as

24:35

he has entered like this is a

24:37

me as his native about whether or

24:39

not two wrongs don't make right and

24:41

as an eye on trying to argue

24:43

is us. What was a

24:46

disease to prevent his own being bullied?

24:48

If anything he could make it wasn't

24:50

a beat. The. Child at game

24:52

bullion. Realize that wouldn't just so

24:54

happens daddy's Asic Atlas masks today afford

24:57

it could happen today So I'm of

24:59

do it again. Maybe.

25:01

Or he picks on them even more because

25:04

of what happened between the two Dell we

25:06

won't. Because daddy's every in a to show over

25:08

the road studies have. Shown his true colors

25:10

are dad showed that is not as

25:12

tough as you tell a seven year

25:14

old boy to make Cari had something

25:16

to please idea viruses that was my

25:19

fire again. comparison was just. Telling.

25:21

Me to where we are taught me to

25:23

tell the child eight what a hard not

25:25

to them when I get smashed or during

25:27

the prescribed a hard have to stand up

25:29

for be soft spot for your voice to

25:31

fuck and wouldn't be home. Soon

25:35

as it is, why don't need?

25:37

Okay so the Mr. Smith Okay

25:39

So as you said you believed

25:41

establish Rise to Lose applause and

25:44

his father dig. Guess.

25:47

North. Say them from one seconds. Arrange your own

25:49

opinions matter how are you the reins? I

25:51

dietary. When your child is being bullied use

25:53

go around him some to face off a father and

25:56

as the endless. that

25:59

message i told you I was going to say

26:01

two rounds don't make a right, you're going up to show

26:03

your child I'm going to be a bully now and I'm

26:05

telling you to stand up to people like me. But

26:08

it sounds like that child's a nightmare.

26:10

And as that caller said before me, you're going to

26:13

be totally embarrassed by your dad now and

26:15

his dad now can't handle a bully. And

26:18

do you think that's the message that he's given his son when he

26:20

called the guards? Yes, that, oh look,

26:22

you're being a bully son but when I get

26:24

bullied look what happens, I go and run. I

26:28

go and run and I go and get windy. And I go, she called him a

26:30

windy cunt. Yes, she did. And

26:33

she called him a windy cunt. So, it's that body, he's

26:35

like, he's seven years of age and he's that much of

26:38

a bully already and that much of a tyrant. Like,

26:41

you can't ring the guards on him because he's seven. Nothing's

26:43

going to be done. Okay, but let

26:46

me just go back to this father, his son being

26:48

bullied by the other kids. Yep, and he's angry and

26:50

I understand him being angry and he takes his anger

26:52

out on the father. He goes over to the father,

26:55

has it out with him. The father said something he

26:57

doesn't like, which was something like,

26:59

would tell your son to grow up or

27:01

tell your son to be brave or whatever.

27:04

He needs to stop being a baby and harden up. And

27:07

that was the point at which he snapped and he hit him a

27:09

dig. But what

27:11

has it solved? Nothing. It

27:15

hasn't, but it's showing that you're a

27:17

seven year old, that you're not the wind bike. You

27:19

can't be a bully. It's, I

27:21

started this when I read the message, I was on

27:23

the opinion, two wrongs don't make the right. I

27:25

was on the opinion of my child, dig. So

27:28

listen to everybody. Like I have got kids that

27:30

age and I'm sure if I was told like

27:32

my seven year old, she's a girl, like if

27:34

I was told, get her to toughen up, I

27:36

probably have the same response. I

27:39

will. Yeah. I

27:41

just don't, I genuinely don't believe

27:43

that this solves anything. No.

27:46

In a difficult enough. Sir,

27:49

you keep on saying that you're under broken record. You

27:51

keep on saying, well, I don't think that's going to

27:53

solve anything. Even though we've heard from John

27:55

who did the exact same thing and oh, what do you

27:57

do? It Solved everything.

28:00

Neither did give us a to solve everything.

28:04

Rope Right docker. Me

28:07

because. Environmental been shown to be

28:09

a podium right. And

28:11

will like it could talk about. That could be the end of

28:13

it. Because he seen as I'll see seen

28:15

his own died as a whim bag. Never.

28:20

Been to do it, it's recruiter guy will be

28:22

a bully and is is identical data Probably argued

28:24

that the right thing to do don't know people

28:27

away with to sort of thing. Get

28:29

away with it. He

28:31

would have killed a bit of com for door and the

28:33

he let me throw it away with it when I was

28:36

gonna faint. Hope that I know that word will buy. Time

28:38

you gotta run. The men who had

28:40

before and I said windy Holmes said

28:42

cylindrical Assessed on. Fine Art I was.

28:44

I disagree with you a they were very pure

28:46

out that way current and by my seen as

28:48

we will fight Iraq now with me other companies

28:50

make it a he wanted without Subway tile says

28:52

token old when you come in my town over

28:54

that it when you can put a skill is

28:56

not for the parents Are you trying to get

28:58

older? I target Ls and for my little detail

29:01

my daughter to topple open called the Order turn

29:03

out of beauty. Married sooner Who's I

29:05

can smell Days I saw bullying. all

29:07

the bullying crises in the world to

29:09

throw the windy conditions of us or

29:11

his lover. Okay

29:14

let me bring in Grace is

29:16

the Nautilus and and I went

29:18

to somebody. Your

29:21

time and money in my science

29:23

and you know and I'll and

29:25

edges yet I need to talk

29:27

to my what was signed up

29:29

and. India

29:33

to do. right? So

29:36

many. And. money

29:39

in my mind. One mean I like.

29:43

To see it. Was

29:46

reading away from this is.

29:50

A Sense ratings Woods is not

29:52

what it says. it's

29:57

no right or wrong That

30:00

said, your child needs to soften

30:02

up to eye eye with evil

30:04

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30:25

Nicola, you're on Opinions Matter, how are you

30:27

Nicola? Good, how are you Adrian, yourself?

30:29

Good, not a bother thanks Nicola, what did you want to

30:31

say on this? My seven year

30:33

old was being picked on in school I

30:35

approached the school, the youngs kept kicking him

30:38

in the private I

30:40

approached the school, I approached the school numerous

30:42

times about her and I

30:44

was fed up then and the end, so I

30:46

approached the album and then when

30:48

the youngs were put with hands around my child's neck, and

30:50

my stroke on my child I called her and if

30:52

I tried to ever put my hands on my child again, she would

30:54

know it was like to have my hands around her neck and

30:57

she was not breathing Jesus, come

31:00

on At the end

31:02

of the day, no one can put their kids in chat So

31:05

go on and keep going Its up to someone

31:07

else You threaten to

31:09

strangle this woman No, I called her a killer,

31:11

yes, she said what my hands was like around

31:14

her neck Ok, right, certainly taking

31:16

it to the next level and what did she say

31:18

when you threatened to strangle her? No, no,

31:20

sorry, excuse me, I was ordering the

31:22

English barrier No, there's not, you're in this country, you

31:25

learn English you learn to speak the language that we

31:27

are speaking in this country Don't be using that as

31:29

an excuse, your phone's a little, I'm not going to

31:31

sound the radio You can say it, go on, say it Yeah,

31:33

your phone's a little fucking rum Oh, that's 493

31:35

Ok So I'll be a

31:38

rum to who? I will actually, I would

31:40

kill who, I would actually kill who I'd kill

31:42

for me too But what, again, I'm going

31:44

to ask the question, Nicola You

31:46

would kill for your kids Yeah, of course, you would

31:48

end up, of course Hang on, hang on, hang on

31:51

You would kill, yes And end up with a life

31:53

sentence in prison Yeah, yeah,

31:55

I can gladly take that charge to you,

31:57

Ren your

32:00

children? It was a prison, me in prison

32:02

couldn't they? I can't visit them if they're in a

32:04

graveyard, I already visit one of me children in a

32:06

graveyard. I am not going to visit

32:08

another one in a graveyard over a thumbnail, a tyrant, that

32:11

doesn't like that because of strangle people. Well

32:13

said. So,

32:16

you threatened to strangle this woman and

32:18

did the bullying of your child? By the way

32:20

Adrian, it's only words, that's how she used words.

32:22

No, I guarantee me, I would have a few

32:25

in the field of air. You

32:28

wouldn't have done that, but I know, but words are words. No,

32:30

it's a fucking problem. But anyway, sorry,

32:32

you threatened this woman, did

32:34

the bullying, stop! Yeah, the child doesn't even

32:36

say hello to me young fella now, he

32:39

just walked by him. So he hasn't gone near him

32:41

since? Nope. So he hasn't gone

32:43

near him since? Nope, nothing. So

32:47

nothing is hard. Do you believe making

32:49

that threat, and it's a fairly serious

32:52

threat, against the mother is

32:54

what called the young fella off? Yeah, but she knew, she

32:56

was going to get bullied at the school year, didn't she?

32:59

So she knew, she knew then

33:01

how my child felt. My child is the tallest in

33:03

his class, he'd be the biggest Elvis class as well.

33:06

But he's a softest mother. He

33:08

comes across like a little hard man when you see him,

33:10

like if you look, look, look, that Alty, he's

33:12

a little hard man, but he's a softest mother, he

33:14

wouldn't say boom to anybody. I'm not going

33:16

for that, and anyone's dragged up little

33:18

rums, bullying me care. Not

33:21

a chance. So again, the

33:23

solution then, this is what I'm hearing on

33:25

this podcast today, the solution

33:28

to bullying, the

33:30

solution to bullying is the threat and violence.

33:32

What I hear on this podcast is a

33:34

woman, a mother, who would do anything to

33:37

protect her children. And that's you, by the

33:39

way. Making ridiculous statements like

33:41

I go to prison for life in

33:43

prison. Ridiculous. Oh, Gary, Adrian,

33:45

a son of a bully and a kid sit a punch,

33:48

a kid didn't want to go to school. You see

33:50

him. I would deal with it. I would deal with

33:52

it. But I don't. You're after approaching the

33:54

school, you're after approaching the parents and telling the parents,

33:56

listen, you have to stop this. That

33:58

wasn't the first time I would approach. The

34:01

way to deal with bullying, I just want

34:04

to make this perfectly clear. If it's not

34:06

being worked out by the school, if it's

34:08

not being worked out by the parent, is

34:10

to go and beat the lumps or threaten

34:13

to beat the lumps out of the parent.

34:15

Give him that, didn't I stop it? Didn't

34:17

I stop that poor little rumpet and my

34:19

child? That poor

34:22

little, that's not even a child, it's a

34:24

little dragged up animal, had his hands around

34:26

my child's neck. That's all right, is

34:28

it? No, I didn't say it was. When did I

34:31

ever say that? No, but I'm saying, he's still

34:33

all right. No, of course it's not. But you

34:35

doing the same thing isn't right either. No, but

34:37

don't you denounce, like I meant I was doing. When I

34:39

approach for a force like that, I tell him to keep

34:42

his hands off of him. I say, because the next time

34:44

I'm going to get my young foot to him, my

34:47

young foot is big, so I punch off and maybe swing a punch,

34:49

but oh. Well, my young

34:51

foot won't say anybody. Because he's taller than everyone

34:53

in his class, he thinks, I can't

34:55

hit them because they're smaller than me, even though half of

34:57

them are older than them. He's not a bully. Why should

34:59

I let him be bullied? You're right, you're right. You

35:02

are a proper mother. Adrian, someone wants to put

35:04

a question to you. Let me just

35:06

read it out here. Adrian, this is for you from

35:08

Viv. He says, why are you so shocked that parents

35:10

want to protect their children? Yeah, I'm not unless

35:13

she's sitting here as well. How can you

35:15

twist that around? I'm not in any way

35:17

shocked. I'm sitting here flabbergasted by... That parents

35:19

are looking after... That's

35:23

a ridiculous statement. No, it's not a ridiculous statement. Obviously,

35:25

you stand up for your children. You do whatever it

35:27

takes. But Adrian, if the parent doesn't do that when

35:29

you approach... Hang on, I don't have to bring the

35:31

parents down to the same level as the little runt

35:33

of a bully. Because you have to go down to

35:35

their level. Yeah, exactly. In order to get you a

35:38

point across, you have to go down to the level that they're

35:40

after, bragging that they don't go to. You see

35:42

that as all right, like a whole little journey of going into

35:44

school, like putting his hands around my child. Not

35:46

a term. No,

35:48

no, I hope. When I approach for the first

35:50

time and it's colder, tell your kid to keep

35:52

his hands off my child. And it kept up

35:54

and kept up, I said, right. And

35:57

it's... Do you mind if the child affects me? Don't

35:59

do it. I'm going to flip a

36:01

list. I am going to kill that old lady.

36:04

Lorraine, let me just bring you back in

36:06

for a second. When you're getting to that

36:08

level that you threatened to strangle a parent,

36:10

that's ridiculous. It's not though.

36:13

I can see her point. I could 100% see her

36:15

point if we're trying to be that tormented in school

36:17

and she has gone to the school, she's gone to

36:19

the mother and has her stopped. What is your other

36:21

alternative? I have a question for you, Adrian. What

36:24

happens? You've seen all these kids

36:26

that commit suicide for bullying, commit

36:29

like in therapy and in treatment

36:31

for bullying and commit suicide. How

36:33

do you do then? How do

36:36

you stop that from happening? Lorraine,

36:38

on this conversation, you're actually speaking to somebody

36:40

who was bullied as a kid, who was

36:42

bullied as a teenager very badly and I've

36:45

spoken about this many times. But

36:47

I still don't believe that two wrongs

36:50

make a right. So how would you

36:52

approach Adrian then? If the parents were

36:54

doing what would you do? I'd go to the school,

36:56

I'd go to the school, I'd go to the school. I'd be

36:58

into the

37:01

school, I'd go on to the Department of

37:03

Education. I'd done everything the right way first

37:05

time and I'd have nothing with them. I

37:08

would also tackle the parent but I wouldn't.

37:10

I just don't believe you achieve anything by

37:12

bringing violence into the conversation with the parents.

37:14

When I told her I was going to put my

37:16

hands around for her, her whole son never went near

37:19

my child again. So in my case it

37:21

worked. I don't know if it

37:23

worked at all the time. I was giving

37:25

her a go, didn't I? I had it worked. I was

37:27

here. Stay there for a second if you can't please. Our

37:29

number is 085-825-2626. Let me bring in a lot of reactions

37:31

to this. This is Calvin. Harry

37:39

Ladds, the show as always. I

37:43

think there's kind of two rights and wrongs here. Maybe

37:46

before the dad went

37:51

up to the bully's dad.

37:54

He should have followed by the police

37:56

report or a

37:58

few things about him. I'm not sure. that's the right

38:00

way to do it for at least he'd

38:02

have evidence that his son is being bullied as

38:05

he said in all the podcasts teachers principals

38:07

they can't do anything about it so

38:10

um yeah

38:13

i would think that if he had

38:15

a few police reports at least and

38:17

then yeah okay he's seen red and gave him on

38:20

the dig but at

38:22

least they can show it in court you

38:24

know that this has been going on for

38:26

some time it's been affecting his child and

38:29

um and that's in the

38:31

end what happened and hopefully then

38:34

that little shithead of a bully will

38:36

see the fact that his actions supposed

38:38

to have a fucking punch and

38:41

uh we'll give her a break that's just my

38:43

opinion yeah i don't i don't know if that's

38:45

necessarily true it could make the young fella even

38:48

more hardened um kelly has been on with

38:50

the message from me ajm what would you rather

38:52

would you rather sit in a prison known that

38:54

his child is still alive at

38:56

home healthy still breathing or would

38:58

you rather sit at that child's grave site wishing

39:01

that you did more to prevent your child from

39:04

ending his life because he thought that was the only way

39:06

to end the pain that he was in all

39:08

right kelly um would i rather be

39:10

sitting in a prison cell while my kids are at home

39:12

with uh no dads that's

39:15

really in the in the plan is it don't think it

39:17

should be in anyone's plan to end up in prison and

39:19

leave their kids to fend for themselves basically again

39:22

you do whatever it takes like who

39:24

provides for them then when you're in prison brilliant

39:26

parenting you know i'm gonna get prison by

39:28

the way for punching when you will if

39:31

you strangle somebody i

39:33

don't think she was actually nicholy we actually

39:35

got to strangle the panda yeah i would

39:37

or yeah my little fire and sadness stuff

39:39

yeah i would have already kicked her around the

39:41

skull outside to go like a polter or the

39:43

punter head off no but i think

39:46

you're only saying you know she's saying she would have done

39:48

it no i'm telling you now gerrymiy

39:50

i'd have killed four outside that's the old game

39:52

why should i bring my childhood to respect everybody

39:54

of four if four little rooms is just

39:56

gonna go around i hear i'm gonna hit him i would

39:59

have loved a man like you when I was younger. Come

40:02

on, come on. I'm

40:04

taking out. You'd love Margaret

40:06

to have kicked lumps out of people outside the school. Margaret,

40:08

yeah. If I went home and said I was bullied, Margaret

40:10

would have just gone, what did you

40:12

do wrong? Nicola, I

40:14

need you as me ma, okay? Right, you

40:17

just ring me now when anyone gets on your game. Just

40:19

give me a bow. Look,

40:21

her name is Nicola Dixon as well. There you go. You put

40:23

a make it up. You're literally gonna... I love

40:25

you, Nicola. I

40:27

don't agree with your strangling people. Just for

40:29

the record. You just want me to do

40:31

it for you. You're a kid. A

40:35

woman appears in court charged with strangling neighbor. Stay

40:38

there for a second, Nicola. It's not a great

40:40

parent, though. That would do anything for the child.

40:43

No, I don't agree with actually strangling

40:45

somebody. You're strangling strangles. When

40:48

my kid says... She's after telling you about ten times you've

40:50

got a gunner. That's like you saying, remember when you were

40:52

here because I'm only about to get another ear badger. No,

40:54

I'm actually agreeing. You know when you used to say to

40:56

your kids, I don't want each other to know they're gonna

40:58

strangle you. You didn't actually strangle your kid. But,

41:01

Nicola, again, you did mean it, didn't you? Yeah,

41:03

I'm not daring the eye. I do life in the

41:05

prison cell. Which part

41:07

of the prison cell? Thank

41:10

you. John, are you about to give me an ear bashing or

41:12

can I go home safely? How you doing? How

41:14

you doing Jeremy? Good. Here's

41:17

the story, lad. I was in

41:19

this position many a year ago. My son was

41:22

getting bitten. He was getting kicked. He

41:24

was getting punched. And I went to the school

41:27

and there were numerous amount of times over this. And they said,

41:29

look, you know, we'll have a chat with them. We'll have a

41:31

chat with the parents and this and that. They never really doing

41:34

that in the power. So I got onto the NEWV.

41:37

I don't know if you know it's National Educational Welfare

41:39

Board, a Delta school. And I'm a partner of the

41:41

school. Because I didn't want to go

41:43

down this route of kicking the parents around. And I asked them to

41:46

interview them. And they got onto the school.

41:48

And they had a chat with them. And they got back

41:50

to me. Oh, I got a new one out of class.

41:52

And I said, well, you know, OK. But

41:55

that's fair enough. So the contrast for any better than that.

41:57

The folder away from him, the better. what

42:00

they didn't. And you know, my young

42:02

sister didn't want to go to school anymore. He

42:04

literally didn't. And I went on to school and

42:06

then I just, sorry, go on. So

42:09

what did you do? So the skill was onto me. Where

42:11

is your little lad? I used to say, yeah, he's not going

42:14

to school. And I'm going to find him another skill. I

42:16

said, it's just crazy. I'm going to have to do this. Anyway,

42:19

I got let herself anyway. And I was getting

42:22

fed the quarter. I didn't bring my son to

42:24

school. I explained what was going on. Anyway, long

42:26

story short, I just started

42:28

going to the school and I figured out

42:30

who his parents were. And I said to the parents, I said,

42:32

listen, I just got to stop. I was told to fuck off.

42:34

That's what I was told. And I

42:36

said, look, I says, if it happens again, I says, I

42:38

was a mean young and I have it out. I said,

42:40

I'm serious. I said, I'm serious. I said, this is the

42:42

way it's going to go. And I happened again. I had

42:44

it happen again and again. And that was it. So

42:47

I'll wait. There was a little skill. I seen the alpha coming out

42:49

with the alpha. I walked up to him.

42:51

I said, what you're fucking digging up the next week?

42:54

Yeah. And I actually bent. I said, I told you, I said, I

42:56

want just how many times? I said, I said, the next time I

42:58

said, I want to be used to dig. I said, I'm fucking

43:00

kidding. And that was the end of that. I know

43:02

you mean that was the end of that. Yes, it did report me to

43:04

the skill. And there was a bit of trouble over. But I gave a

43:07

fuck to the skill. This is what I had to do. What's

43:10

this? Because you've gone through. So the way. So hang on,

43:12

Rambo, the way you're dealing with. I'm

43:16

not Rambo. I'm not. You're

43:19

you're you're carrying on like

43:21

that. I don't know. I'm telling you

43:23

how it is. I'm telling you what happened. I'm

43:25

not Rambo. No, I mean, I'm sorry.

43:29

Again, I understand because I mentioned

43:32

this before. I'm somebody who was bullied as

43:34

a kid. So I get it. I understand

43:36

the trauma that it causes to children, blah,

43:38

blah, blah, blah, blah. But I don't believe

43:40

that the way to solve it is to

43:42

threaten to beat the shit out of the

43:44

parents. I just don't. Can I put

43:46

you? Can I put you in a scenario? I

43:48

want to put you in a perfect scenario here. You're

43:50

sitting here in the morning and your son is crying and

43:52

phone you. You just want to go to school. Is your

43:54

family going to bother them there? And if parents

43:57

want to want about it, because I drag them, they'll knock us

43:59

to school. what would you do? What are

44:01

you going to do Adrian? When you've nothing left to

44:03

do, you've no loin, you've no loin anymore. The skill,

44:05

you don't have the skill, you don't have everything. What

44:07

are you going to do? Are you going to fail

44:09

your son? Because I tell you one thing, I couldn't

44:11

stand back and watch this. Okay,

44:14

I would sooner call the guards than... And what

44:16

the fuck are the guards going to do? You

44:18

tell the guards that you're so many thousand and

44:21

stolen and let them do it. Well,

44:23

Adrian, that's seven and eight years a day. They're not going

44:25

to do fuck up. They're not going to do alone. That's

44:27

why I didn't call the guards. If the skill

44:29

was not your own, I'd be better. Surely the fucking guards ain't

44:31

going to do anything. Come on, Adrian. So, do you

44:33

believe you're not going to do anything? So, hang on.

44:35

So, let's have a nationwide campaign then. If your child

44:38

is being bullied at school, go down and punch the

44:40

head off the parent. That'll solve us. Is that what

44:42

we do? Everybody said their own, Adrian. Everybody said their

44:44

own. I'm just telling you what happened and what I

44:46

had to do. I had to take the law and

44:49

put my own hands. I wouldn't have given a fuck

44:51

up to cops like the law. Or you're under arrest.

44:53

Or you're so fierce. I wouldn't care unless it was

44:55

in front of a judge. I wouldn't care. I don't

44:57

care. I keep waiting for my kids. If anybody's going

45:00

to make my kids cry, they're fucking more

45:02

than a fucker. You know, my kids are

45:04

my number one priority. Even at this age,

45:06

they're in their early 20s. I

45:08

still wouldn't want more than someone from the car. Of course I

45:11

was. No doubt about it. All right. I want to go back

45:13

to the

45:15

story that

45:17

started this conversation. This was Lisa's message that

45:19

came into us earlier on. We just got

45:21

a message from somebody who signed their message.

45:24

And Jake said, boys, my girlfriend

45:27

lives on the next road and there's killings

45:29

going on over this. The two maz were

45:31

out screaming at each other last night. They're

45:33

all behaving like children. But my girlfriend said

45:35

that the kid bullies a lot of kids

45:37

on the road and the parents are well

45:40

aware of what's going on. And again, John,

45:42

I'm going to go back to

45:44

the point here. There's killings going on

45:46

over this between

45:48

grown adults behaving like children. This is

45:50

what they said. And who suffers as

45:52

a result of all that shit? The

45:54

kids. No, no, no. The caution. To

45:57

see your man down knocking lumps out of the

45:59

neighbours. stop all you. Unfortunately it's

46:01

got to come to that, it's got

46:03

to come to it. You know,

46:05

you're not gonna, look, you've got

46:07

to have the nipple in the boat somewhere, the

46:10

cops don't walk, the skill doesn't work. Why else

46:12

are you gonna be left with? One

46:14

on one, let's fucking get it on, bang,

46:16

that is, sort of. Yeah, for the first

46:18

time ever in the history of this podcast,

46:20

which we've got three years now, I actually

46:23

agree with it. I agree with every word

46:25

that gentleman just said. You

46:27

don't normally call him a gentleman. Yeah, but he's

46:29

feed a gentleman today. Because you do, you do

46:31

want anything to protect your child. Come again, come

46:34

again. Of course you want. Here is a message

46:36

from the Minister for Education. If your child is

46:38

being treated to school, don't be the shite man

46:40

in the parent. That's what we're talking about here

46:42

lads. That is what we're talking about.

46:45

What are you gonna

46:47

do? If your kids, if

46:49

your kids, I want my kids growing up

46:51

knowing that they have someone strong there to

46:53

protect them. Yeah, I remember. Obviously yours didn't

46:55

get it. Someone's strong.

46:58

Yeah, someone's strong. And

47:00

people say they couldn't find me. More than

47:02

a god. People still gotta think about this. People messages

47:04

and saying I couldn't find me way out of a

47:06

paper bag. I'm well able to look after myself. Inside

47:08

a paper bag. Inside a paper bag. Outside one now

47:10

I'm fucked. But I'm well

47:13

able and I would literally like that

47:15

gentleman on the phone there. So why

47:17

does the Minister for Education not say

47:19

that then, Jeremy? I would see red.

47:21

Why does he not say that? Because

47:23

it's not the purge. Why would a judge

47:25

not look on you favourably? Well done, Mr. What's

47:29

it called again? Extenuating circumstances. That's what it's called.

47:31

Your child is being bullied and you kicked the

47:33

shit out of this man. And the judge is

47:35

meant to say, well done. No, you're simply kicking

47:37

shit. Sean. I

47:40

agree with the father hitting to the

47:42

father. He got smart, you

47:44

know. Yeah, the kid may need to

47:46

open up or whatever. But, you

47:49

know, you need to stop your kid's bullying.

47:51

So the father, I think the father was right to

47:53

smack him. He was either going to smack the father

47:55

or smack the son. Put

47:58

the son from white stuff bullying. now because

48:00

of it because he he be thinking now someone

48:02

else might come up and bite her as a

48:04

die so hopefully he fucking

48:06

stops but parents need to crack down on

48:09

the bullion with their kids take

48:11

it easy all right thanks very much indeed

48:14

Sean this is Neil opinions matter I know

48:16

where the agents come from but if you

48:18

agree with Jeremy on this one you know

48:20

where they come from and the laws are

48:23

fucking shit that's what it is and

48:25

the laws can't stop bullying so

48:27

you have to deal with it in a

48:29

different way that will stop it and unfortunately

48:31

it's violence that father deserved a poacher to fuck

48:33

him up when he didn't come up with his own son

48:35

so that means I don't know boy some kids grow

48:37

up in that extremely soft and that's what he's doing their

48:39

DNA and their nature and that's what he can

48:42

deal with and all the kids and all

48:44

the kids grow up on it so if you

48:46

grow up with a father and ask stop bullying your

48:48

child and he doesn't want to go and he

48:50

says no then you're going to

48:52

be fucking bullied and the poacher may be kicking

48:54

the buttocks and if your son comes near

48:56

me again I'll be back around unfortunately

48:58

the laws are fucking shit and you're going

49:01

to bully him and there's a law can't

49:03

talk Jesus

49:06

cheers Neil thanks very much indeed I know the

49:08

way Neil can go from zero to ten well

49:11

it goes up like a grandfather class you keep on talking

49:13

about yeah it's a lovely day here and I'm driving me

49:15

taxi by the way kill them all and

49:17

have a nice day lads by the way I hate them but

49:19

have a nice day lads I'm

49:21

a fashionator let me squeeze in this

49:24

message from Jay oh yeah Adrian

49:27

Adrian if you don't seem to think I'm going around late it's an

49:29

old video from a while back of the mud on the foot of

49:31

the cart and shot the man who

49:33

raped and murdered a seven year old daughter now

49:37

what would you do on that jerk of sats? I'm

49:39

not sure it's awesome hmm

49:46

I don't really have an answer it's a very

49:48

hypothetical situation Jay that's

49:50

a chickens answer thank

49:52

you very much indeed what's

49:55

that what's that you're

49:57

chicken no it's just you're annoying

49:59

me today So she's like just get up

50:01

and punk the head off you because I'd literally send

50:03

you into a you wouldn't there's a desk in between

50:05

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