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V.C.R. Presents: The Karate Kid (1984)

V.C.R. Presents: The Karate Kid (1984)

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V.C.R. Presents: The Karate Kid (1984)

V.C.R. Presents: The Karate Kid (1984)

V.C.R. Presents: The Karate Kid (1984)

Monday, 29th January 2024
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1:13

Hey , this is Dave . Matt and

1:15

Zap , and welcome to the vintage

1:17

cinema review where , every week , we

1:19

review some of our favorite films from the past

1:21

.

1:22

Hey , there ain't no late fees here .

1:24

Silence is golden and be kind .

1:32

Rewind . Hey

1:35

, Davey San , what are you going on in the VCR

1:37

today ?

1:38

Very nice . I like what you did there , Dave

1:40

. This is in fact your pick .

1:42

Yeah , it is actually the Karate Kid 1984

1:45

. Not that we confuse with the

1:47

newer .

1:48

The woke version . Yeah , it was at 2010

1:50

. They're going to say the Van .

1:51

Halen album . Oh yeah , I

1:53

forgot about that one .

1:54

One of their best , isn't that a Taylor Swift album

1:56

1984 .

1:58

I think it's 1989 . Oh okay

2:00

. I knew it was an 80 something , because

2:03

I have a 15 year old daughter .

2:05

I'm sure she's a cheat and I'm sure that's the reason

2:07

you knew that .

2:08

I should say about , about to

2:10

be 15 , not 15 yet , but yeah

2:12

, this Karate Kid 1984 , this one man

2:16

for me , just this screams 80s man

2:18

.

2:18

Oh my God . Yeah , without a doubt , this

2:21

is one of those that you want

2:23

. Assumes that everyone our

2:26

age or everyone in the known universe has seen

2:28

, but it's not necessarily the

2:30

case . I know for me , for damn

2:33

sure . I've seen this dozens of times .

2:36

Yeah , yeah , the new

2:38

one kind of like through , I think , a lot of people off

2:40

. I think the kids kind of gravitated toward the

2:42

who's , who's , the who

2:45

played Mr Miyagi in

2:49

that Jackie Chan and will

2:51

Smith's little kid .

2:52

Yeah , I think I saw the

2:54

new one bits and pieces .

2:56

I saw . Yeah , I didn't see the whole thing through either .

2:58

For me the classic one , always the best . Now

3:01

I do like the show they made , the Cobra

3:03

Kai . I don't know if you've either of you have seen

3:05

that available on Netflix .

3:06

I've seen , yes , every episode of that . Actually

3:10

, my wife came in the one time I was watching it

3:12

. Oh really , in the room she

3:15

wasn't really like , she didn't really hear anything about it and

3:17

she was like , what kid show are you watching ? She thought

3:19

I was watching like Nickelodeon or something . That's awesome

3:21

Like a teenage show . Yeah , it was like a teenage show .

3:23

I'm pretty sure I'm up to date on that . I'm almost positive

3:25

I'm up to date . What are your thoughts on that

3:27

? The Cobra Kai show yeah , oh , it's fantastic

3:30

.

3:30

Yeah .

3:30

I'm not really . Oh , my God , it's awesome .

3:32

I really like it . How about you , Matt ?

3:34

I love it . I

3:36

like the fact that they went through Johnny's like his whole

3:38

life and kind of like making him a whole

3:40

character that you can relate to . He has a whole life

3:42

. That hasn't been that great . He's

3:45

just trying to like live his life

3:47

and be a regular guy . He has problems , no

3:49

kid , he has no real job

3:52

.

3:52

Yeah , he's one of my favorites . I like

3:54

Johnny Lawrence .

3:55

Ever since this movie . Yeah , I think everybody's

3:58

like Johnny .

3:58

Lawrence For sure . So

4:01

Karate Kid , rated PG . Released

4:04

date on this June 22nd 1984

4:06

. So summer movie , sure Running

4:08

Time , which I didn't realize , this was this long , 127

4:11

minutes , directed by

4:13

John G Abeldson , written

4:16

by Robert Mark Kamen and

4:18

produced by Jerry Weintraub , which is a

4:21

name I've heard . He's definitely , I

4:23

think , in the 80s was doing a lot . That

4:26

name sounds very familiar to me .

4:28

Wasn't that the Me Too guy ? No

4:30

, that was a

4:32

wine steam .

4:34

Wine steam Harvey , not

4:37

Jerry .

4:37

Harvey Weinstein . So budget

4:39

on this 8 million box

4:42

office , 130.8 million God

4:44

damn , that was all the

4:46

summer of 84 .

4:47

It made that .

4:48

Yeah . It was box office money . Well , I'm

4:50

trying to think back . If I saw this on

4:52

like HBO or something . That's why I've seen it

4:55

.

4:55

I did not see it in the theater . I remember it was

4:57

playing on HBO like nonstop . It would like they

4:59

would like have the movie and then they played again .

5:01

Okay .

5:02

I didn't see this one in the theater . I saw its

5:04

sequel in the theater , but I did

5:06

not see this one in the theater . But for damn sure

5:08

, once it was available on your

5:10

HBO's or whatever , for

5:12

damn sure , I saw it . You caught it , yeah .

5:16

So this was mostly filmed in Calabasas , malibu , woodland Hills

5:18

, areas of LA , oak Creek Canyon

5:21

in Arizona . The Miyagi

5:23

house which is now since demolished

5:25

, was located on Galt Street

5:27

in Kenoga Park , los Angeles , probably

5:29

like a suburb , and filming for this

5:31

October 24th and 83 started

5:34

, ended December 8th , so about 45

5:36

days of filming .

5:37

That's not bad dude . No , you

5:39

want to talk about the juice being worth the squeeze , right , if

5:42

that's all you got to put in ? Is that much effort and 8 million bucks

5:44

?

5:45

Shit With kids too . Like

5:47

that's there are a bunch of kids filming this you

5:49

could slave labor , it's fantastic , and

5:52

there was .

5:52

This is one of the rare movies that was filmed like

5:54

chronologically , so each scene

5:57

was filmed as they were going through it . A lot of you

5:59

know they'll do the beginning , the end and mix it all up . That's

6:02

pretty much it for all that fun stuff , so I'll pass

6:04

it over to that for the cast .

6:06

Cool , all right . The

6:08

cast of 1984's the Karate

6:10

Kid includes Ralph

6:13

Macchio as Daniel

6:15

LaRusso , pat

6:17

Morita as Mr Miyagi

6:19

, william Zabka

6:21

as Johnny Lawrence , elizabeth

6:25

Shoe as Ally Nills

6:27

, martin Cove as

6:30

John Crease , randy

6:32

Heller as Lucille LaRusso

6:35

, ron Thomas as

6:37

Bobby Brown , chad

6:39

McQueen as Dutch , tony

6:42

O'Dell as Jimmy and

6:44

Rob Garrison as Tommy

6:47

.

6:47

Tommy , tommy , that's a good cast . I

6:51

have a thing to add to that . I might have said this

6:53

on another podcast .

6:54

I think that Dave said yeah , it

6:57

was on the Greenbriar Ghost . If you want to go back and

6:59

hear it , yeah , check that one out , but Ally

7:01

Nills , who is played by

7:03

Elizabeth Shoe .

7:05

Yeah , it's Elizabeth Shoe . Ally Nills

7:07

is actually the mom's name on the Wonder Years . That's

7:09

her real name . In real life In real life

7:11

. Yeah , that's just a little fun factual

7:13

. But yeah , elizabeth

7:16

Shoe . I was in DC with my wife and we

7:18

were walking down the street I seen this

7:20

lady with her hair was all

7:22

curled , blonde hair , great body . She

7:24

was in this blue dress and I was

7:27

looking . She turned around , looked at me and

7:29

I was like Elizabeth Shoe . I said it like that out

7:31

loud and I just stopped . My

7:33

wife bumped into me and I stopped there looking

7:35

at her . She's like five , 10 feet away

7:37

and she kind of looked at me and smiled and

7:39

turned and went into the hotel

7:42

there . No , no , no . She seemed really

7:44

cool and I was like what the heck ? Who

7:46

was that ? I was like that was Elizabeth Shoe . She's like who . I

7:49

was like Adventures in Baby Sitting , crowdy Kid . I was like Elizabeth freaking

7:51

Shoe .

7:51

You should have kicked the soccer ball over to her

7:54

In the face .

7:56

I won't say anything about the song yet , but yeah that's

7:58

been a cool part .

7:59

But yeah , it's just a little fun fact there

8:01

. Yeah , that's pretty cool . I got a fun fact

8:03

too on one of these cast members , Chad McQueen

8:05

. We played Dutch .

8:06

Yeah , is he

8:08

dead as fried chicken ?

8:10

No , he's , as far as I know , still alive . But you know

8:12

who he's , the son of .

8:14

Steve McQueen .

8:15

Steve McQueen correct .

8:16

Give it a name like that McQueen . It's

8:19

like hmm , a lightning McQueen , yeah , so

8:22

wow , I did not know that was Steve McQueen's son .

8:23

Yeah , that's awesome . One and only son . So he

8:26

was born in 60 .

8:27

McQueen died like that yeah , he died a while back

8:29

. He died young .

8:31

Did he die like an accident , car accident or something

8:33

?

8:33

No , he had the bad cancers or some

8:35

kind of stomach something or whatever

8:37

, but it it . He went down for the count

8:39

early . Some internal something was going

8:42

wrong .

8:42

Queens from Bullet right Correct .

8:44

Who's the guy I'm thinking of ? That like maybe

8:46

50s guy died in like a car wreck

8:48

, like a Porsche . Good looking guy , james

8:51

Dean .

8:51

James Dean yeah , that's from the 1950s

8:53

or whatever .

8:55

I know , like my dad and like old heads , they love Steve McQueen because he was always

8:57

in his car movies and all that yeah .

9:00

So I mean he was like a precursor

9:02

to like a Bert Reynolds , Like he was

9:04

the Bert Reynolds of his era .

9:06

He was like a manly man . He

9:08

was the man's man .

9:10

He was definitely a man's man . I mean , you have him

9:12

in not only Bullet , as we've discussed , but he was in

9:14

the great escape , incredible movie , oh

9:19

, a movie later remade with Pierce Brosnan

9:21

the Thomas Crown affair .

9:23

Oh really .

9:24

Yeah , I didn't know that was a remake . He

9:26

did a bang up job in that ?

9:27

Who was the ? Who was the redheaded lady

9:29

that played in that ?

9:34

In Thomas Crown affair with Pierce Brosnan . Oh yeah .

9:35

Yeah , I can picture .

9:36

Is it Renee Russo ?

9:38

Renee , yes , renee Russo .

9:40

Yeah , she's Renee Russo , foxy lady in

9:42

that Foxy lady . Dennis Leary's

9:44

in that as well .

9:45

Oh , he's great . I forgot about Dennis Leary .

9:47

Yeah , but don't sleep on that . The OG original

9:50

Thomas Crown affair , give that a shot

9:52

. Nice James Bondi .

9:54

I think I saw it like about years ago . So

9:56

I guess that's it for the cast and

9:58

we'll pass it over to Matt for a brief synapsis

10:00

.

10:01

Yes , we have a brief synapsis here of

10:03

the movie Karate Kid . A

10:05

fatherless teenager faces his moment

10:07

of truth in the Karate Kid . Daniel

10:10

Ralph Maccio arrives in Los Angeles

10:12

from the East Coast and faces the difficult

10:14

task of making new friends . However

10:17

, he becomes the object of bullying and

10:19

the Cobras , a menacing

10:21

gang of karate students , when he

10:23

strikes up a relationship with Ali Elizabeth

10:26

Shoe , the Cobras leader

10:28

ex-girlfriend . Eager to fight back and

10:30

impress his new girlfriend , but afraid

10:32

to confront the dangerous gang , daniel

10:35

asks his handyman , miyagi Pat

10:37

Morita , whom he learns is a master

10:40

of the martial arts , to teach them karate

10:42

. Miyagi teaches Daniel that

10:44

karate is a mastery over the self , mind

10:46

and body and that fighting is always

10:48

the last answer to a problem . Under

10:51

Miyagi's guidance , daniel develops not only

10:53

physical skills but also the faith and

10:55

self-confidence to compete against

10:57

tremendous odds . As he encounters

10:59

these , they fight towards his life in the exciting

11:01

finale . This entertaining film

11:03

is one the whole family would enjoy

11:06

.

11:06

Nice Wow .

11:07

I just said the movie .

11:08

God damn , was that on the back of a VHS ? Yes , it

11:11

is , that is the VHS .

11:12

You don't even have to rent the movie .

11:14

We can hold it up for a while . We have the whole

11:16

movie right there . That's a ridiculous

11:18

synopsis .

11:20

Okay , fun facts , fun facts .

11:21

Yeah , fun facts , jesus .

11:23

Christ .

11:25

Well , I was very happy to be here , thank you

11:28

, so I guess it's time to steer through the movie a little

11:30

bit .

11:30

Yes man , it's going to be tough , though I mean

11:32

there's not much left to fill in the blanks .

11:34

Right right .

11:35

But indeed our story

11:37

begins in September in Newark

11:39

, new Jersey . Amidst

11:41

a cityscape of working class , a

11:44

lone station wagon departs its

11:46

passengers waving goodbye to their friends and

11:48

neighbors as they depart for sunny

11:50

California . Arriving

11:52

at the South Seas Apartment Complex , we're

11:55

introduced to the travelers a

11:57

hopeful single mom , lucille

12:00

LaRusso , and her distraught

12:02

son , daniel LaRusso . Why

12:05

do you say distraught ? Well , because he's

12:07

distraught . He doesn't want to fucking be

12:09

there .

12:09

He's like why do we even have to move what ?

12:11

a teenager , true man . An

12:14

awkward meeting with his neighbor , freddie

12:16

Fernandez , lands Daniel

12:18

with an invitation to a party

12:20

at the beach later that day , and

12:23

a broken faucet in their new apartment prompts

12:25

Daniel to meet the apartment complex's

12:27

maintenance man , mr Miyagi

12:29

Miyagi .

12:31

Yeah , so those kids , in the very beginning when they're leaving New

12:33

Jersey , there was like a pack of kids , like you were

12:35

saying , chasing the car . They were supposedly

12:38

like local kids in that neighborhood that were like bothering

12:41

the people on set and the guy was like

12:43

, look , if you just

12:45

leave us alone , we'll let you in on the movie , like just

12:47

chasing the car or whatever . So they were actually kids

12:49

in the neighborhood the actual neighborhood that were like bothering

12:52

everybody there .

12:54

Kind of like Rocky running behind him . That was so

12:57

typical . I mean , they did a great job . I'm sure it was

12:59

that had to have been filmed , I'm guessing in

13:01

Jersey , Because I mean that was as typical you

13:04

could expect out of Jersey .

13:05

You know , I was wondering about that because when I looked up the filming

13:08

locations there was nothing on there from New Jersey

13:10

. So I'm wondering if that's like a part of LA that

13:13

kind of looked Jersey-ish , but I don't know Arizona

13:15

or something . Or maybe maybe in Arizona , but

13:17

I was thinking the same thing because I'm like that looks

13:20

like an East Coast town . It was

13:22

like such a striking change from where he left

13:24

to where they ended up .

13:25

If they're filming all of this in California , I don't think they

13:27

went all the way to the East Coast to film three minutes

13:29

of the movie .

13:31

Yeah , probably not , but

13:33

that place he's living to .

13:35

The South Seas .

13:36

Well , when they get to California and they're living at that

13:39

reminds me of a beach , Like

13:41

when you go to the beach and rent like a spot , like

13:43

a condo or something like that .

13:44

Yeah , yeah , but those pools in the middle and all

13:46

that , that pool was so gnarly .

13:48

Yeah , maybe that's why he was distraught , because he

13:50

like , so he's like the South Seas apartment

13:52

.

13:52

I'm pretty sure he was distraught because he didn't . I

13:54

mean , he was pissing and moaning about it the whole way there

13:56

. He did not want to leave Jersey . Why

13:59

do we have to go to California ?

13:59

Well , mom got a new job right .

14:01

Which we I wanted , I will get to that question

14:03

in a second , but

14:06

it is speaking of the mom played

14:08

by Randy Heller . Randy

14:10

Heller was . She played the character of

14:12

a lesbian in soap

14:15

.

14:16

Oh , was that Benson ? So it was like

14:18

an offshoot or something .

14:19

Benson was in fact a spin off of soap S . Soap is

14:21

an incredible sitcom incredible . But

14:23

yeah , she played a lesbian in that .

14:25

Fun fact too , on her in this movie . So LaRusso

14:28

, you know , played by Machio

14:30

, was 22 and she was only

14:33

like 36 , I think they said like 14 year

14:35

difference for the mother and the son

14:37

in this like real life , you know what I mean Playing

14:39

his mom .

14:40

So he was 22 in this . Yes

14:42

, one more time , he was 22

14:45

. Yes , god damn , he

14:47

looked young . So if he was playing a 17

14:49

year old going on 18 , I thought he was younger

14:51

.

14:51

Like 15 . Yeah , I'm serious

14:54

.

14:54

I mean , he looked like a goddamn baby .

14:56

That's what for the casting . They said something about the guy

14:58

was like , well , he's 22 and you're like , ah , that's too old

15:00

. And they saw him and be like , ah , this guy's perfect .

15:02

I mean he looked young , Perfect and terrible

15:04

.

15:04

I love dude . I remember all those girls just loving

15:06

that team beat magazine with Ralph Machio

15:09

in there .

15:10

Oh , he was like Tiger beat , correct , tiger

15:12

beat , team beat , you name it .

15:13

The magazines were beat .

15:14

Just beat , just beat .

15:17

So it's interesting . So on the way to the California

15:20

you know is there traveling through , and they stopped here and they stopped

15:22

there . I guess during one of the stops

15:24

they needed to pop the clutch , you know , as they're

15:26

rolling the car that you know , pop it out , put it in second

15:29

and do whatever . Now , this was a station

15:31

wagon , a sizable station , a Malibu I think

15:34

, five speed , I'm thinking . Well , that's

15:36

something like a manual transmission in that

15:39

size of , or I should say , that type of , a

15:41

car is probably up on the column .

15:43

You know , I mean one of them .

15:44

That that is entirely possible , yeah that's what I think

15:46

you meant is just put it down into into

15:49

what drive when he was pushing it .

15:51

I've never I've been driven one like that , but I know they exist .

15:53

I've seen sporty little wagons . In

15:56

fact I've driven sporty little wagons

15:58

that have , you know , the that

16:00

are manual but not this big

16:02

. You know , that thing was a boat .

16:03

Land yacht that was the like , a family

16:06

truckster style .

16:07

Did either of you guys notice the shirts between Daniel

16:09

and Freddie Fernandez ?

16:11

Yeah , yeah , I wrote something down about that .

16:14

I wrote at what was the style at the time

16:16

? A muscle shirt . Do

16:18

does anyone still wear those , please ?

16:20

God know Well the shirt Daniel

16:22

had on is the three eyes . It's

16:25

that only three eyes the three eyes

16:27

. I looked it up , just Google

16:29

it . Is that a band or whatever ? It's

16:31

a national park in Dominican Republic

16:33

. Now , that's all I could find on that , the

16:36

maybe , maybe there's a band , the

16:38

three eyes .

16:39

I don't know who's to say you don't even

16:41

know , you don't even know that other kids I

16:43

forget .

16:43

his said like making bacon .

16:44

Correct , His had two big a lot of making

16:46

bacon shirts in the 80s he's had one pig

16:49

, humping the other and had making bacon .

16:50

Nice , nice , all kids should have that

16:52

shirt . So , as what's his name

16:54

, kicks the door in , he's kicks the door to the complex

16:57

and he's walking with his bike and a piece of luggage . The

16:59

bike will obviously we'll get to , but I

17:02

should say we'll see more of . But what kind

17:04

of bike was that ?

17:05

That was a mongoose and it was the model

17:08

. Was called a two , four .

17:09

Okay .

17:10

And then he had a two , six , I think two , and I don't know .

17:12

So that was not a 20 inch bike .

17:14

No , that was . You could tell the tires were bigger and

17:16

all that Like it was a .

17:17

That was the big kids .

17:19

Just a BMX bike for that time .

17:21

Yeah , so like a 20 inch , like I had a mongoose

17:23

California and I got 1984 .

17:25

That was like 20 inch .

17:26

That was a 20 inch trick bike . You could put pigs on

17:28

it . You could do whatever these bikes are

17:30

more I think for like racing and

17:32

Mongoose is a racing red line was

17:34

racing .

17:35

There was like the GTs , which were like the pro performers

17:37

. They were more like a trick bike .

17:39

Yeah .

17:40

Like in the 84 , 85 , 86 times

17:42

.

17:43

So I looked that bike up to see , like you know , people

17:45

selling them or whatever .

17:46

Like I found , one is like over three grand .

17:48

Fuck that .

17:49

Like uh , one of us like put back together and

17:51

I just assume we've talked about it .

17:52

I just assumed get a dyno or a mongoose or

17:55

a dyno back , or whatever .

17:57

Japan now you can buy the sets of them

17:59

.

17:59

Yeah , they're nice looking . I

18:01

mean there's old bikes like they're they're awesome

18:04

.

18:04

They don't make them like they used to .

18:05

No .

18:06

So that crazy lady in the apartment complex that's

18:09

just sitting there smoking and Doing whatever it knit and

18:11

Freddie keeps telling Dan , you're like , oh

18:13

you know , she's not , she's cuckoo . Was that

18:15

happen ? Was that the woman that played happy Gilmore's grandmother

18:18

? I ?

18:18

don't know . I thought it was the . Where's the ?

18:20

beef lady no it was definitely not

18:22

her .

18:23

I'm not sure on that . I didn't really get a good look at

18:25

her face cause she was like Done

18:28

up and you know , I don't know , I didn't

18:30

. I mean , I didn't put that together .

18:32

But we'll have to find that out .

18:33

Maybe we put that in the mail into it interesting

18:35

, so we we do get a .

18:37

He does meet with the busted ass faucet

18:40

. He did meet mr Miyagi , so

18:43

it is interesting that Matt makes that sound

18:45

. I got to drop it . Fun

18:47

fact Pat marita

18:49

Was born and raised in the

18:51

United States .

18:52

Yes , no accent .

18:53

He created that accent just for the character . Yeah

18:55

so it's like you know

18:58

, it's almost like Arsenio

19:00

Hall in oh , we did it coming to

19:02

America , and both him and Eddie Murphy did

19:04

it . They both put on blackface

19:06

to play a black character right

19:09

when they were playing the barbershop guys . So in

19:11

this case , pat marita is putting on Whatever

19:14

he thinks is the appropriate , you know

19:16

, accent of whatever part

19:18

of the orient he's from , just to sound like

19:20

, to sound like that .

19:21

Right , well , that's a sound authentic

19:23

, yeah for the casting of this .

19:25

They said that they knew him from happy days

19:27

and they were like we're not bringing a week , we

19:30

were not bringing a comedian into this part , yeah

19:32

, and and then when they did that that's when

19:34

tap they said like we need somebody . That's like

19:36

you know from that costume .

19:37

He's like I eat you put it on and he

19:39

put it on . They were like , yeah , that's it , that's

19:41

the guy , that's the guy . I forgot

19:43

he owned owls right sure , yeah , happy

19:45

days .

19:46

He owned owls after Al .

19:47

That's right . Yeah , I'll back you up , right .

19:49

Yeah , he died yeah .

19:51

I think nothing . Nick told me that when I told him we're doing this

19:53

is a fun fact , you know ?

19:55

yeah , I remember that shut up , not Lee

19:57

shut up .

19:58

No , no , leave not , leave alone . He's bugging

20:00

to get in here , he's he's yeah , and he will

20:02

be .

20:02

I assure you he will be for what ?

20:04

the classic Classic ?

20:06

review of image album review . It's coming , it's

20:08

come , brace yourselves .

20:09

We're halfway there .

20:12

Are we living on a prayer , oh ?

20:16

Well played , sir . Yes , that

20:19

evening at night , daniel attends

20:21

the beach party with his newfound friend , freddy

20:23

and meets a hot local blonde

20:26

, alley mills , who takes a shine

20:28

to him , but uh-oh , troubles

20:30

brewing . A group of high school

20:33

kids arrive on their dirt bikes , and

20:35

one of them happens to be Johnny Lawrence , the

20:37

de facto leader of this miss makeshift

20:40

gang . As chance would have

20:42

it , johnny and alley used to be

20:44

boyfriend , girlfriend , and he's none

20:46

too happy about their breakup . Seeing

20:49

Ali and Daniel hitting it off , it

20:51

doesn't take long for Johnny and his

20:53

most excellent skills in karate to

20:56

make short work of Daniel . With

20:58

a black eye and an already grim

21:00

outlook for his new surroundings

21:02

, daniel makes his way to school

21:05

to the tune of cruel summer

21:07

by banana Ramah .

21:08

Yeah , get to meet our hero of the

21:10

story , johnny Lawrence .

21:11

It's some would say yeah but uh

21:13

, the search .

21:14

certainly the hero of Cobra Kai , for sure , yeah , Um

21:17

, I just , I just wanted to say like I

21:20

like that part too , because you're showing these are kids

21:22

that like Johnny , really

21:25

doesn't him . Him and Daniel LaRusso , I don't , they don't have

21:27

anything in common , not a goddamn because he's

21:29

a rich kid , like they're all on their dirt bikes

21:31

, you know , they have dirt bikes just because they can . You know

21:33

what I mean . Right , they don't ride regular bikes , they

21:35

got dirt bikes .

21:36

I mean even have cars like what he . He

21:38

has a car .

21:38

Why are ?

21:39

you riding the dirt ?

21:40

because it's cool . Yeah , because the same reason

21:42

.

21:42

A dog looks his boss because he can't he just

21:44

get on your dirt bike right out to the beach , like

21:46

, uh , but yeah , these , you mean these guys

21:48

, they're at the Cobra Kai . They got their own little

21:50

like their little buddies . Big houses

21:52

, country clubs , it's just a gang , yeah

21:55

.

21:55

I noticed cool kids . One of the group of

21:58

kids that Daniel was hanging with had a Varney Varney

22:00

shirt on . As I said , it Varney , french , if

22:03

you say the sunglasses V you a

22:05

R N E T remember those Varney .

22:07

I do not know the shirts Varney shirts .

22:09

Yeah , that's the big . That was the big thing in the 80s .

22:11

I wasn't that highfalutin .

22:12

Yeah , I mean it was a little before our time , like

22:15

we would have been much younger , sure , but I was aware

22:17

of it mostly , probably because of movies and stuff

22:19

. It was like product placement in movies . But yeah

22:21

, I noticed that shirt and again one

22:23

of our boomboxes the big thing in the 80s . That's

22:25

what kind of sparked all this . Yeah , they're a little

22:28

run-in on the beach .

22:29

Absolutely .

22:31

So Johnny , we find out , obviously has a thing

22:33

for his ex . Yeah , they're broken up .

22:35

He won't let it go . Mm-hmm , it's so

22:37

. I see the boomboxes like that and I remember seeing those

22:39

, but when I was a kid , the boombox

22:41

to have was that , though , any one

22:44

of them that had detachable speakers . Yeah

22:46

like that to me was that you were the shit

22:48

if you had to like your . Your boombox was

22:50

a transformer right , which was just awesome

22:53

.

22:53

It was like the record player to tape decks

22:55

. Yeah , and it had like the big equalizer

22:57

underneath , and then you had the two speakers

22:59

that you could take off .

23:00

You get it from Sears . It was always like the SR

23:03

series , like SR 2000 , sr 3000

23:05

.

23:05

What is it ? That's like Sears robot , something to

23:07

do with their ?

23:08

wonder yeah , you know what you're right

23:10

.

23:10

Sears robot .

23:11

Yeah , that's the SR but then later , if

23:13

you were like mid 90s , it was Iowa AI

23:18

, that was how it progressed . Those

23:20

things sounded awesome , those little Iowa systems

23:22

, but 80s boomboxes all

23:24

over the place all over the place .

23:25

So we were talking about the dirt bikes , right ? So Matt

23:27

and I grew up not too

23:29

far from one another and Maybe

23:32

right in between us . Geographically

23:34

was this area of yet

23:37

to be developed land Billy's trails

23:39

, the Billy trails ? Well , so it was a

23:41

cornfield that , over the course of time

23:43

, there was a lot of runoff , almost

23:46

like glacier , like that had cut through

23:48

a back side of it . It could have been from

23:50

earth movers , who knows , but there was a just

23:52

a ton of dirt that was moved and created

23:55

this huge , long-running ditch .

23:57

Off-white house lean . Is that what we're talking about ?

23:59

This would have been .

24:00

I mean not at the time it was in between

24:02

there was a hand over street and

24:04

God , it's where your cousin lived

24:06

. It was right behind , which was hand over street . Hand over

24:09

street . It was right behind , like Rosedale Avenue

24:11

down . That way the Michelli's lived the next complex

24:13

down . It was right behind the complex that was like that . Lake

24:16

side drive yeah .

24:17

So there was any number of ways to get to

24:19

this and it was all through what ? You're riding

24:21

your bike through woods or cornfields like Nobody

24:24

no , no , parents knew where it were

24:26

. In fact , I knew where it was in fact . I remember my parents

24:28

at one point saying look , you're not going to those trails

24:30

unless you take us to these trails . What you keep

24:32

talking about , this what's go ? What goes on back there ?

24:34

That was the first place I had a Tobacco

24:37

.

24:39

So let me put it in perspective back then when you guys

24:41

were kids is like Hill Valley . When you go back to where

24:43

Marty's houses , it's all fields . Yep , but

24:45

now it's all houses . Oh yeah

24:48

, okay , I'm trying to get there now .

24:50

I bring up the concept or the memory

24:52

of the Billy trails because , as we're talking about bicycles

24:55

and whatever so , most kids , and I

24:57

mean 90 plus percent of the kids back there

24:59

, were riding their BMX bikes . They would go

25:01

down this into this ditch and come back up

25:03

, like you guess like a half pipe made of dirt , correct

25:05

? Yeah , thank you for that . That's exactly what

25:07

I was looking for . It's a very long half

25:09

pipe made of dirt and it was deep , it

25:11

was . So Every

25:14

once in a while , every once in a while

25:16

, you would see someone show up with

25:18

a dirt bike , and that

25:21

I mean they would just rip . I

25:23

mean rip you . The air they

25:25

would get was unbelievable .

25:27

But I don't know if you remember Jeff Webb . He was like

25:29

one of the older kids . So you , jeff .

25:31

Jeff Webb used to hang out with a guy named Scott guest

25:33

. Okay , those two were the dynamic

25:35

do yeah .

25:36

I had a Yamaha .

25:39

Right , you and your brother , yeah .

25:40

I used to ride and do that . You couldn't go anywhere

25:42

in the city Like I'd have like a little . I

25:45

just do little circles and stuff your grandma's , your

25:47

grandma's house .

25:48

She had those two hills .

25:50

It's not like now , like in the city . Kids just ride up down

25:52

the street like through traffic . Oh

25:54

my god , I can't stand that shit .

25:56

I look forward to every single one of them getting hit by a

25:58

car .

25:58

I'm serious , I'm ridiculing cancer .

26:00

I look forward to every single one of them getting hit by

26:02

a car real quick .

26:04

We didn't mention this , but I never real quick

26:06

cruel , cruel summer there by banana

26:08

Ramo . This saw there was a pretty good soundtrack To

26:10

this . For sure it's fun . It takes you

26:12

right back , shit .

26:13

Yeah , you know , with that part too I wanted

26:15

to mention I wrote down here so that scene

26:18

where cruel summers playing , they're all walking into school

26:20

. Yep , everybody's got denim jeans on

26:22

and I'm like man , that's a nice ass , that's

26:24

a night and like half of them are dudes . Yeah , because they

26:26

have the same hairstyle , because you just see him from

26:28

the back , and a lot of guys and girls had

26:30

a hand and the third yeah , and the jeans are so

26:32

tight , I'm like man , that's nice , like and

26:34

it's a dude . You know what I mean .

26:36

Oh my god , dude on this one is like riding

26:38

those bikes . Yeah , you're like hey

26:40

, check , check oh when you're driving up on them .

26:44

You're like oh , oh , oh , oh . Hey , man , I just wanted to ask you

26:46

if you thought the game was good last night .

26:48

Oh , how about it ? How about that game ?

26:50

Yeah , Jesus Christ , that's tight denim

26:52

jeans back in the day .

26:53

Yes , they were all the guest jeans .

26:54

Mm-hmm , yeah , I guess who's wearing

26:56

them .

26:57

Yeah , good one .

27:01

All right , everybody's at school . Not

27:03

long into his first day at school

27:05

, daniel has a rough go at soccer

27:08

tryouts , where we find Johnny and

27:10

his friends dominating the practice

27:12

session and luring Daniel to take

27:14

the bait for a fight . Daniel

27:17

is determined to get even with the local hooligans

27:19

and is now intent on learning

27:21

karate . Making

27:23

his way to the local dojo , he's

27:26

swift to find that his nemesis , johnny

27:28

, and all of Johnny's cohorts Are

27:31

the star pupils of Cobra Kai

27:33

, the dojo's namesake fear

27:36

not . A quick pep talk with his

27:38

mom and a reminder of Ali's attraction

27:41

set his mind at ease for

27:43

the moment . That night

27:45

, as Daniel makes his way home on his

27:47

bicycle , he's followed and terrorized

27:50

by Johnny and his friends on their dirt bikes

27:52

. He doesn't stand a chance as

27:54

he's run off the road , tumbling down

27:56

the hill with his bike right behind him . Eventually

27:59

making his way to the apartment complex , we

28:02

find a distraught Daniel cursing

28:04

his bikes inferiority To

28:06

the point of throwing his bike into the dumpster , and

28:09

his mom's inability to console him at

28:11

the time . All of this Outside

28:14

the door of mr Miyagi's on-site

28:16

workshop eight , where

28:18

he's heard the entire exchange .

28:21

You know one thing I want to mention too . With his Daniel he

28:24

gets the town and makes friends with those that guy

28:26

there and then a group of them stuff and they ditch him

28:28

like real quick Just cuz you get your ass beat like

28:30

off . Screw you , I'm done with you and they just kind of

28:32

roll that one , thank you .

28:33

So that was in the first thing when they're doing the beach party

28:35

.

28:36

Yeah , I want . I wrote that down . I forgot

28:38

. I wanted to mention that you .

28:38

That's messed up . They left him there .

28:40

Like , would you do that ? Like ditch it , dude , cuz he got

28:42

his ass beat . You know , you met Somebody's pretty

28:44

cool and then you're getting it off and then they

28:46

get to beat up and you're like , ah , you're a loser and

28:49

they just kind of left them there .

28:51

You know , you remember , and it was just kind of maybe

28:53

back then I might .

28:54

I mean , I'm just a kid .

28:55

So in 84 . I'm eight years old

28:57

, so yeah , I probably would do that . Like who's this kid ? I

28:59

just met him . He's trouble . I don't want anything to do with

29:01

this guy .

29:01

Hey , just yeah , cuz you're like , if he got beat up , maybe

29:03

I'll get beat up if I hang out . You're a loser

29:06

. Yeah , you don't want to be like so sure as be

29:08

. Then too .

29:08

Yeah , so you're like . And one other thing I couldn't notice

29:10

because it was nighttime , but it was Johnny

29:13

wearing parachute pants , and you remember

29:15

those from the 80s .

29:16

I for sure remember parachute pants , zippers

29:18

. Absolutely .

29:19

Yeah , when did emcee hammer come out ?

29:21

I think 89 or 88 , the first

29:23

one , I think , of his emcee hammer .

29:24

But those were more of a baggy pants , parachute

29:26

pants . You could get ones that were kind of tight and

29:29

almost like , but they would have zippers like joggers

29:31

, right Right yeah and and and I'm

29:33

pretty sure he was wearing them and it made me

29:35

think off . Forgot about parachute pants .

29:37

I thought they were all the rage in the 80s I thought they

29:39

were more like work , like like a jumpsuit

29:42

type pant maybe like an adidas .

29:45

I had parachute pants . You could zip up the side

29:47

and like there'd be a different color , like up the

29:49

scene you know me that type stuff . And

29:51

you know I was looking at Johnny's outfit

29:53

and I'm like oh shit , parachute pants . Now

29:56

in HD you can see all that stuff .

29:57

They still make . They still make the button

30:00

pants that button all the way down

30:02

. Yeah , that you usually take off for a basketball

30:04

game .

30:05

Yeah , I'm sure they do .

30:06

Oh my god , I forgot all about those .

30:08

Yeah , I completely forgot about the adidas

30:10

ones yeah yeah

30:11

so before the , before those guys run Daniel

30:14

off the road .

30:15

Mm-hmm .

30:15

So Daniel goes to the doge , took Cobra Kai

30:17

dojo sees the bad guys in there and

30:19

he high tails it the hell out of there . Yeah so

30:22

just draw it again . He goes over to this restaurant

30:24

where his mom is , his mom's working . So

30:27

the bad guys seem in there and they're just waiting

30:29

. They they're . They know he's got to come out of there soon enough

30:31

. So as he's

30:33

sitting there in the restaurant talking to his mom , his

30:36

mom says you know , she mentions her ability

30:38

oh , this place is great , I'm gonna train as a manager

30:40

. I'm curious

30:42

just If she isn't

30:45

already a manager or some higher

30:47

level of employee . What was

30:49

her draw ? To leave Jersey to

30:51

go to California to be a waitress

30:53

?

30:53

No , there was something that they mentioned , that she

30:56

was going their job Computer

30:59

computer .

31:00

So she did say that , oh , if I do this manager

31:02

thing , maybe she was working two jobs .

31:04

Maybe so it wasn't so techie

31:06

in the New Jersey area . I think that they were in

31:08

. So you know , you move out to California . Big tech jobs

31:10

. It was come down yeah she was looking at .

31:12

This makes sense now . So her main gig was

31:14

something in computer , because she says that she's oh , I could make

31:16

way more money than being in computers making

31:18

it out of the safety sands or whatever it's called shady

31:20

shady anchors South seas .

31:22

Yeah , the

31:24

Oriental Oriental Express or something , that

31:26

restaurant she was at her but

31:28

, I was looking at his plate . He had like a nice big

31:31

steak . He's like picking on me , man . That steak looks banging

31:33

. It

31:37

wasn't a Benny Hanna food was really good .

31:39

Oh , it looked real good .

31:41

Yeah , but I'm . He's there like picking at the broccoli

31:43

and like do I be tearing that steak up ? Look like a high-end

31:46

kind of restaurant , Nice restaurant . But yeah , I

31:48

wondered about that too with the job thing I've

31:50

heard that as soon as she said .

31:51

The computer thing and you piece that together for me . Thank

31:54

you , dave . Yeah , she had to have moved out there for

31:56

computers . She's working a second gig for

31:58

sure . Well , the

32:00

next day at school , a Pleasant

32:03

run-in for Daniel with Ali and her friend

32:05

is short-lived . As he sees Johnny

32:07

as and his friends lurking about , he

32:10

runs away without being seen and makes

32:12

his way home . Upon arriving

32:14

in his apartment , he finds his bicycle

32:16

waiting for him , fully repaired

32:19

and in brand new condition . Assuming

32:22

correctly that it is Mr Miyagi to thank

32:24

, he pays him a visit , a

32:26

lesson in bonsai trees and a quick talk

32:28

about inner peace . Later , daniel

32:30

has made a friend in Mr Miyagi and

32:33

is shaping up to be a worthy apprentice

32:35

.

32:36

Sounds very ominous .

32:38

Is it Maybe hopeful ? He's a .

32:40

Sith Lord .

32:40

Sith Lord , yeah , so PS . Allie's friend

32:43

is a bitch , that

32:46

dark-haired chick .

32:47

Yeah , she's always trying to jump in , it's

32:49

just awful Like come on man .

32:51

Hey , this is my friend Daniel charmed

32:53

. Yeah , shut up .

32:55

Like all the kids in this high school

32:57

, they all seem to be rich because Allie's house

32:59

Correct , so how did they zone

33:02

to be in ? His little

33:04

apartment complex there . Like why are they going to this school

33:06

? Wouldn't that be like a ?

33:07

Well , no , this is one like I taught to LA Ron because

33:10

he grew up out there and he always mentioned how , like

33:12

the schools he was at , like you'd have some kids that would be

33:14

from the hood like down in some areas

33:16

, and some are like out in these , like the . What do you

33:18

call that ?

33:19

place Cliffs or something .

33:20

The hills or the hills sure .

33:21

Yeah , and he's like you'd go to these parties and

33:23

these houses are .

33:24

It's like a whole another life and here

33:26

around where we live they seem like every time they put up like a real

33:28

big new housing project .

33:29

they like zone it out , zone it out of a certain school district

33:31

.

33:32

Yeah , school districts , like what the hell ? It's

33:34

like a congressional redistricting ? Yeah , it's

33:36

redistricting .

33:37

Yeah , you see , like these lines , like it goes like a

33:39

mile east and then it drops like six miles

33:41

south to pick up the project . Yeah , and

33:43

then it bumps and then it goes over and

33:45

gets the projects like all out of the picture . That's so

33:47

crazy .

33:48

It's so true though .

33:49

It is true .

33:50

So when Daniel runs away from these cats again

33:52

he's with Ali and her bitch of a

33:55

girlfriend he

33:57

sees Johnny and Johnny's friends . They're

33:59

all sitting on their dirt bikes at the bus stop

34:01

Because , again , daniel doesn't have a bike

34:03

, he threw his . At this point , daniel threw his bike into

34:06

God damn dumpster , so he's got to take you

34:08

know , get on the bus and

34:10

there's Johnny and his friends and Daniel just wants to avoid

34:12

these guys . We

34:14

were talking earlier about the dirt bike thing around here

34:16

, and I'm sure it's . In

34:18

fact I know it's nationwide . There's whatever

34:21

with ATVs or four wheelers or even dirt

34:23

bikes , where just the bad

34:25

element gets on them and they roll up and down busy

34:28

streets , absolutely busy streets . Three

34:30

lanes , four lanes of traffic , Rush hour traffic . Yeah

34:32

, so this is

34:34

back in 84 . We're talking I

34:36

hate to say it almost 40

34:38

years ago .

34:39

It's crazy .

34:40

Yeah , Wrap your head around that one . So

34:43

how are these dirt bikes

34:45

legal ? Like for them to ride these around , there was no

34:47

license plate . There was no license needed to

34:50

ride one of these Was , I guess . Was that

34:52

okay in California or just okay overall

34:54

?

34:55

Yeah , I don't know about that one .

34:56

When we were kids you could ride your dirt bikes on the street

34:58

. I don't think they'd really bother you , unless you were . You

35:01

would probably like weave in and out like go up on the sidewalk

35:03

or ride down the sidewalk in the street . Yeah , like bop out , like

35:06

when nobody's looking and stuff .

35:07

I never did with mine . I would

35:09

always take it to like what little patch of grass

35:11

we could find . Otherwise I'd go outside of the city

35:14

, We'd load up on my dad's truck and

35:16

take it out and ride at my cousin's house or wherever

35:18

. But in the city I wasn't jumping on

35:20

it Like riding it up to the little league field .

35:22

There's kids around here that they'll drive up

35:24

the sidewalks onto the little league field and stuff so

35:26

yeah , I don't think it's a thing , unless you're like really causing

35:28

trouble .

35:29

Now I had cousins that lived in Halifax

35:32

.

35:32

Yeah , a lot of dirt up there , so they're

35:34

riding . There's still a lot of dirt up there .

35:36

Yeah , and they'd ride wherever . I don't even know if

35:38

there was a cop up there or state police . They might

35:40

be the only ones that patrol it . And they're not

35:42

patrolling it .

35:43

Regional , they call it .

35:44

Regional , yeah , so I don't know about out

35:46

there . I would think that they would frown on that Dirt

35:49

bikes riding around , but maybe for the movie

35:51

they just kind of rode it in there , I don't know .

35:53

Or no , like if they're just riding around the beach and stuff . I don't think it's

35:55

.

35:56

Well now , with that , what did we see

35:58

? Not but 10 years or so later , in

36:01

Terminator 2 ? We see a young

36:03

John Connor and his friend riding

36:05

their dirt bikes around town . True , maybe

36:07

that's an LA thing . That's an LA thing .

36:09

Yeah .

36:10

Who's to say oh , wow

36:12

. Well , time passes

36:14

and Halloween is soon upon us . At

36:17

the encouragement of Mr Miyagi , daniel

36:20

decides to attend the school's Halloween party

36:22

. Daniel and Ali

36:24

rekindle their estranged , budding

36:26

relationship and all is right

36:28

in Daniel's world . But timing

36:30

is everything . And when Daniel finds

36:32

Johnny in the bathroom rolling a joint

36:35

in one of the stalls , daniel

36:37

makes the most of the situation by sneakily

36:40

placing a maintenance hose in just

36:42

the right place to douse Johnny from

36:44

head to toe with water . An

36:46

infuriated Johnny races past

36:48

Black Spider-Man and , along

36:51

with his entire group of misfit friends , chases

36:54

Daniel all the way back to Daniel's apartment

36:56

. Daniel is caught in

36:59

the ass-kicking of a lifetime in Seuss

37:01

. Just when we think all

37:03

hope is lost for Daniel , mr

37:05

Miyagi arrives and saves the day , making

37:08

short work of Johnny and all

37:10

of his friends .

37:11

Yeah , there's Daniel . He can't just leave things alone , he's

37:14

gotta go in there and stir up some shit . He's

37:17

okay .

37:18

He was dressed as a shower curtain , which I thought was

37:20

like a shower , daniel is definitely a

37:22

shit-star , johnny is definitely a bully

37:24

, but Daniel is definitely a shit-star .

37:26

Then he goes out and crawls his accidents running

37:28

down the street like in traffic .

37:30

Oh shit , that's right , the two guys . I mean the guy's a menace . A

37:32

menace , I tell you . Yeah , a menace to

37:34

society .

37:35

I think Johnny was just upset that he was trying to take his girlfriend

37:37

Like right in front of him . Like the goal on this

37:40

guy .

37:40

Yeah .

37:41

So indeed , I said it tongue

37:43

in cheek , but in fact there was Black Spider-Man

37:45

. Oh yeah , so the kids , just , it's just

37:47

this dude walking into the bathroom and he

37:50

puts his hand up like yo , what up , johnny . Johnny

37:52

just runs right by him . Just disses Black Spider-Man

37:54

.

37:54

Yeah , saw that .

37:55

That isn't cool at all . Not at all . Any

37:58

of you catch the one line from Miyagi

38:00

when he says that Daniel doesn't wanna go to this party

38:02

. He just wants to be an introvert at this point because

38:04

he just gets beat up wherever he goes . So

38:06

Mr Miyagi says oh , like Confucius

38:08

, right To make honey , young

38:11

bee need young flower . That's

38:14

pervious shit .

38:15

It is a little pervy I didn't catch that one .

38:17

What was the ? Is that improvised , I

38:19

guess ? What was the name that

38:22

Johnny's one friend it might've been Bobby gave

38:24

to the joint he's like are you rolling that ?

38:28

Thunder stick .

38:28

Yeah , like insert Thunder stick .

38:30

He didn't call it a joint .

38:32

He didn't call it a whatever , A whammy or

38:34

something like that . Did he call it a number

38:36

Like hey , are you done rolling that number Maybe

38:38

?

38:38

Maybe it might've been . Oh wow , that's

38:40

something . I didn't catch either on that .

38:42

But I don't think Larusa knew he was rolling the

38:44

joint there . I think that was just a bonus .

38:47

Well , he came up over and was looking down at him through

38:49

the mic drop where he put the hose over

38:52

. But yeah .

38:54

Oh , so after Miyagi comes in and saves

38:56

the day at the end . So Daniel's

38:58

trying to let's recall , Daniel's trying

39:00

to jump this fence to get away . His

39:02

apartment's like right there , His building is right there

39:04

, and of course the bad

39:07

guys catch him and they pull him off of the fence . Did

39:09

anyone other than me notice that after

39:12

Miyagi kicks all these kids' ass , after

39:15

having jumped from the top of this fence onto these

39:17

kids , he just lifts the chain in the lock

39:20

right off of the thing and the gate opens wide . Yeah

39:23

.

39:23

Maybe he had the key .

39:26

He didn't insert a key . He just like

39:28

flipped some stuff over . Maybe he karate chopped

39:30

it . He's magic , yeah , magic Miyagi

39:32

.

39:33

It was like Batman jumping down there taking out all those

39:35

dudes . I

39:38

laughed too , though you ever see and it's always

39:40

, and I get it because it's a movie , but they

39:42

always have you got five guys , they all take weight

39:44

, their turn to get their ass kicked . It's like why

39:46

wouldn't you just fucking why ?

39:47

wouldn't you do . They're all like doing these moves . They're guys like

39:49

sitting back To the air and then they like attack .

39:51

You're spectating . He's done . All right , my turn , and

39:53

you're gonna get your ass beat Like if you all three jump

39:55

on him at once . You might have a chance .

39:57

Now you couldn't see it , but Matt just did a great impression of

39:59

Johnny , who was the last one to get his ass kicked , but

40:01

yeah , like he's standing back there , he starts waving

40:04

his hands around Like he's basically doing wax

40:06

on , wax off , and he comes over and Miyagi

40:08

just kicks him right in the belly .

40:10

But you remember , like Kung Fu theater growing up it was always like that , like

40:12

, oh , it's like one guy attacked at a time .

40:15

And everybody's watching everybody else get their ass kicked In

40:17

real life . I don't think that goes down like that . Five

40:19

on one , I don't care who you are .

40:21

So why wasn't there any charges pressed against Mr

40:23

Miyagi for beating up a couple of 16 , 17

40:25

year olds ?

40:26

It's 84 , man . Stuff like that just

40:28

happened it's 84 .

40:30

Kids got a beating back then and that was it .

40:31

That was it Just kind of happened here

40:34

, yeah , but by like a grown Asian

40:37

man .

40:37

Right , so if you told your parents like I

40:39

don't know , asian dude just came

40:41

down and whooped our asses . Dad .

40:43

Well , any good father is going to say

40:45

well , what did you do ?

40:46

Right , right , right , you were picking on the LaRusso

40:48

or the LaRusso kid was starting trouble again .

40:49

Yeah , only a woke helicopter parent is going

40:52

to go over and say you beat my kid up . I don't

40:54

care what shit terribleness he did

40:56

, you can't do that to my kid .

40:58

Right , I think back then it was just kind

41:00

of like kids got in fights all the time

41:02

. Yep you know what I mean . You come back beat

41:04

up a little bit , or bruised or no , your parents never really

41:06

questioned .

41:07

I got my eye cut open when I was six

41:09

or seven .

41:10

Fighting and stuff . No , I was throwing . How old was ?

41:11

he 14-E ? Yeah , no

41:13

, he was like 13 or 14 . He was riding his bike over

41:15

the hill by where I used to get babysat , so

41:18

anyway , we were throwing these stones Spelled differently .

41:20

I know , I know who he is .

41:21

I guess I hit the kid's bike so he like slams on his

41:23

brakes and comes over . He's like who threw the rock

41:25

and , like my friend Mike , just turns around

41:27

and runs back towards his house . Oh man , the

41:29

kid just goes and punches me and I remember because I got

41:32

stitches under my eye and I remember I didn't get

41:34

, they didn't inject me , you were six . Seven

41:37

or eight .

41:37

Oh , seven or eight still .

41:39

He went no-num stitches . Yes , I

41:41

remember that to this day . I just remember how

41:43

much it hurt on the no-num stitches . Because

41:46

it was so close to my eye . But anyway

41:48

, my dad wanted to know who this

41:50

kid was , so he had Mike's brother jump in

41:52

the car and my dad found the guy and he was riding

41:54

his bike . Still , the kid , who was probably 14

41:56

, 15 . Grabbed the handlebars

41:58

of his bike , bent him , and

42:00

then the kid went and told his dad and my dad called his dad and said

42:03

look what you did to my son . I remember the dad's like

42:05

talking it out and the dad was like , oh , he deserved that , then

42:07

this and that . But yeah , to

42:09

your point , I think yeah , that happened in the 80s .

42:11

Shit , shit , that happened . Yeah , you just kind of

42:13

work it out . Hey , stop being

42:15

a dumbass . Look , I got slapped around a couple

42:17

.

42:17

I got slapped around by my friend's parents

42:19

for sure , like because it was expected

42:22

. Like look man , my parents would say if

42:24

my kids acted up , feel free . Like

42:28

it probably went unsaid . It's

42:30

just understood If a kid acts up , you're

42:33

going to smack him around a little bit .

42:34

But I was just thinking like these rich parents , this

42:36

Asian guy from an apartment complex whoops my

42:38

kid's ass . Like I'm sure there would have been like cops called

42:41

.

42:42

I don't know . You can't get blood from a

42:44

stone .

42:44

And yeah , those kids aren't going to probably say anything

42:47

either .

42:47

They're not embarrassed .

42:48

And they're in karate , so they probably come home bruised

42:50

up all the time .

42:51

True , getting beat up . We used to come home bruised

42:53

all the time too . Just what ? I went there

42:55

Getting woopin , yeah , hell yeah , with

42:58

grill marks , all right , well

43:00

, hot damn . Daniel now

43:02

has another avenue in which to learn karate

43:04

Mr Miyagi . Mr

43:07

Miyagi accompanies Daniel to the Cobra

43:09

Kai Dojo in hopes of squashing the

43:11

ongoing feud between Johnny's gang

43:14

and Daniel . Soon enough , we

43:16

learn a little more about the sinister nature

43:19

of the Dojo sensei John

43:21

Crease . After a short exchange

43:23

between Crease and Mr Miyagi , the gauntlet

43:26

is thrown . Daniel will fight

43:28

at the upcoming All Valley Karate

43:31

tournament , where all scores will

43:33

be settled . In the meantime , there

43:36

are to be no fights or harassment from

43:38

Johnny and his friends . In order for Daniel

43:40

to train , mr Miyagi

43:43

has a few tasks for Daniel to complete

43:45

before he starts training , however , and

43:47

his first task waxing all

43:49

of the cars in Mr Miyagi's parking lot

43:51

.

43:53

Yeah , wax on , wax off .

43:54

Wax on , wax off . So the Mr

43:56

Miyagi John Crease exchange was pretty good . Like

43:59

you have this menacing , angry

44:01

, just a shithead

44:04

of a man here that's

44:06

just teaching his kids like hate

44:09

and beat people up and this is how you be a bully

44:11

. And what was their creed

44:13

? It was like no mercy and that's it

44:15

.

44:16

But Crease had a pretty jacked up backstory .

44:18

He did which we find later . He did discover

44:20

later .

44:21

So , yeah , a lot of that has stemmed from

44:23

just years of abuse .

44:25

Right , he wasn't born that

44:27

way . Yeah , he was just kind of

44:29

me . He was me To a killing machine

44:31

.

44:31

He was a killing machine . Actually , he was perfect

44:33

in that movie . Like

44:35

you , just hated that guy .

44:37

Right .

44:38

Oh my god , yeah , he was the villain . Nobody liked Crease

44:40

, nobody at all . He was terrible .

44:42

Are you more of a wax on or a wax off guy ?

44:46

Booth Paint the fence I

44:48

guess it depends on the situation . Yeah

44:51

Well , that night

44:53

Daniel's got a date with

44:55

Ali . They make their way

44:57

to the local golf and stuff where

44:59

, despite what had been such a fun

45:02

date , Daniel finds himself

45:04

intimidated by Ali's affluent friends

45:06

, their cars , their everything

45:08

. But back to focusing

45:10

on what's important . Daniel's next

45:13

day with the Pistramiagi is met with yet another

45:15

task Sanding the floor

45:17

of the decking surrounding and making its

45:19

way through Mr Miyagi's Oriental Garden

45:21

. Evening comes and

45:23

morning follows . Daniel's next

45:26

day with Mr Miyagi begins with a quick

45:28

stint of catching flies with chopsticks

45:30

, followed by yet another task

45:32

Painting both sides

45:34

of the fence surrounding the rear of Mr

45:36

Miyagi's property . Evening

45:39

comes , and morning follows . Yet again . Today's

45:42

task for Daniel paint the entirety

45:45

of Mr Miyagi's house , with

45:47

only a note to guide him as to how to perform

45:49

the task , as Mr Miyagi will

45:51

not be present this day . Upon

45:54

Mr Miyagi's arrival at his house that night , he

45:57

finds an infuriated Daniel , frustrated

46:00

with having to perform so many tasks while

46:02

having received no karate lessons in exchange

46:05

. Daniel's mind is

46:07

blown when Mr Miyagi reveals

46:10

that all the mundane tasks Daniel

46:12

has been performing for him have actually

46:15

been part of his training .

46:20

I remember back when I saw this movie that I

46:23

was kind of blown away by that part .

46:26

Oh dude , that's a great part I would

46:28

have never guessed that , that's what he was doing .

46:29

Incredible he

46:32

pulled a mind trick on him . That was crazy

46:34

.

46:35

He's showing me a paint the fence and then

46:37

he's doing the hand moves in Sand the floor

46:39

. It was really cool and just

46:41

how he was doing it .

46:42

It was only that easy to learn . And

46:45

the other thing , back to that park where

46:47

the mini golf , golf and stuff . Again

46:50

, with those beach vibes . Watching

46:52

those scenes makes me think of when you go to the beach

46:54

. We live on the East Coast here

46:56

, so when I go to the beach , those

46:58

are the things you do . There's water slides

47:00

, there's mini golf , there's arcades . It

47:03

just seemed like a night at

47:05

the beach on the East Coast . Out on the West Coast , this

47:07

is what they do , I guess .

47:08

The weather is completely different out there .

47:10

Oh , absolutely it's like 65 degrees in the winter .

47:12

That's what I was laughing the night before

47:14

the match which takes place

47:16

in December . They're out on water

47:19

slides and stuff . They're at that park For sure You're

47:21

on Christmas break and you're swimming and

47:23

stuff .

47:24

What was the tune at the park there ? That

47:27

?

47:27

one I don't remember .

47:28

I have it written down here your heart's

47:30

young .

47:32

No , that's later . That's not now , that's

47:34

later .

47:36

I thought it was . Yeah , you're right , it's the

47:38

second time , correct , ok

47:40

, ok .

47:42

So Daniel drove Daniel I'm

47:44

sorry , daniel's mom drove Daniel and

47:46

Allie to the golf and stuff . She picks

47:48

him up , of course , in the beater wagon and the thing doesn't

47:50

work , or again it stalls again . And now

47:53

Daniel and his mom are pushing Daniel's would-be

47:55

date and Daniel's actual date

47:58

and she's the one starting the car .

47:59

Pop the clutch .

48:00

So I guess it's quite

48:02

evident that Daniel didn't make such a good

48:04

impression with Allie's parents .

48:06

Right , ok .

48:08

Oh , we were talking about dirt bikes

48:10

earlier and they ride dirt bikes because they can

48:12

, and Johnny already had a car , in fact

48:14

Johnny's car . He drove in a Vonte

48:16

, but they are . It's

48:19

not often you see an Avanti . Yeah , I don't

48:21

know , that's an incredibly rare

48:23

car , but it makes sense considering

48:25

the affluence .

48:26

Yeah , and that other dude pulls up in a white vet .

48:29

Yeah , so this is cool .

48:30

And this is 84 . They're

48:32

filming us . That was that new body style at that

48:34

time . Yeah , so all your Corvette's up around the

48:36

stingray type . Well no , this 84

48:38

vet was when they got real long the curves went

48:40

away .

48:40

The curves went away and the flat came in right

48:42

, yeah , they weren't that like 70s style

48:45

Corvette the best .

48:46

I think 82 they

48:48

was the last year of that like your

48:50

70s style vet . And then they

48:52

went to that Almost like real modern

48:55

looking , so you'd imagine you're in a theater

48:57

in 84 , like what the hell kind of cars had

48:59

that white .

49:00

Yeah , that white vet . It was like seeing a DeLorean

49:02

like whoa .

49:02

I've never seen that before right , but that I

49:05

didn't know that . Avanti Yep , I think they're

49:07

rims right . Let me talk about Avanti .

49:09

Avanti .

49:11

Now I remember . Renzo's what was that ? Yeah , that's what they

49:13

were Lorenzo's Avanti .

49:15

Yeah , so yeah , and Avanti Fantastic

49:18

or a neat little car , definitely a neat little car . So

49:20

when ? So everything is all coming

49:22

together here and Daniel's pissed in a moment

49:24

like dude I've been , I've

49:26

been doing this work for nothing and all I want to do

49:28

is get trained . Am I the only

49:31

one who thought , when

49:33

mr Miyagi or I should say , thought

49:35

mr Miyagi might have been for a special treat

49:37

Wink-wink when he told Daniel to

49:39

wax on wax ?

49:40

off at .

49:40

Santa floor and Daniel bends down

49:42

immediately and he's completely out of the scene . Yeah

49:45

and just be like I Was

49:48

thinking the same thing . All right , I just wanted to

49:50

make sure I wasn't feeling one being juvenile no , no , that's

49:52

where my mind goes .

49:53

He's like no , get back up here . Up here

49:55

or not . Down there All

49:58

right .

49:59

Well , with his arms now conditioned

50:01

, daniel's first day

50:03

of official training begins on

50:05

the beach , where he is to learn

50:08

balance it is during

50:10

this session where he catches a glimpse of mr

50:12

Miyagi before performing what is known

50:14

as the crane technique

50:16

have a quick fun fact on that .

50:18

You guys know what I'm gonna say no . Okay

50:20

, that was not Pat marita up there

50:23

doing the crane technique . That does

50:25

not surprise me .

50:26

No , who was it ?

50:26

It was the guy . Actually , it was

50:28

one of the writers . He came up , but he just made up the crane

50:31

tech . It's no . There's no crane technique

50:33

in the martial arts . Oh was some

50:35

guy and he just they said well , what is it , what do you do with this

50:37

crane technique ? And he got up on that thing . It was

50:39

doing it doing that move , and that's where Allah

50:41

I feel like .

50:43

I feel like I don't have this written down or in

50:45

any fun facts , but I feel like Somebody

50:47

in the UFC or somebody used like

50:49

the actual crane technique , then in an

50:51

actual fight , and I don't know if that's

50:53

real or not , if I just think I read that somewhere

50:55

might have been just for comedic

50:58

effect .

50:59

Yeah , I'm sure , and it's to say yeah .

51:02

Well , as a welcome distraction , daniel

51:05

makes a date with Ali for this coming Saturday

51:07

night . He's to meet up with her after

51:09

she attends dinner with her parents at the local

51:11

country club . In

51:14

the meantime , daniel's training continues

51:16

with learning balance , this time

51:18

on a small boat with mr Miyagi . Saturday

51:21

night arrives and an impatient

51:24

Daniel sneaks into the country club and

51:26

hoops of seeing what his crush is up

51:28

to and why she may be delayed

51:30

. There he sees

51:32

her and Johnny dancing . Johnny

51:35

seeing Daniel kisses Ali

51:37

passionately , and Enraged

51:39

Daniel swiftly flees , only

51:42

to make a fool of himself by running into

51:44

one of the servers who's carrying

51:46

plates of pasta and tomato sauce

51:48

go figure .

51:50

Yeah , once again Makes a mess of

51:52

everything he does . Yeah .

51:54

Yeah , do you have to pay for those dishes after you ruined

51:56

them ? Yeah , I know what's he been doing there . He

51:58

wasn't invited .

51:58

That's probably one of things where you know they tell you like

52:01

you got to watch dishes to make up for everything they

52:03

buy , Adam work , this whole scene , that

52:06

whole scene where he Runs into

52:08

the whatever runs into the other server .

52:10

So , first things first , daniel's

52:13

outfit , who the

52:15

fuck wears an entirely

52:17

white Outfit , a white

52:20

shirt and white jeans or white

52:22

slacks , like he was all white the

52:24

only thing , not Shadowing the only

52:26

thing not white on him was a red zip

52:29

up you know , rain jacket .

52:30

Yeah , yeah , yeah .

52:31

Look , he was in like running of the bulls , like the old way down fit

52:34

like a red scarf , like dude , what were you thinking

52:36

Like ?

52:37

was that ever fashionable ? All

52:39

white ?

52:40

like to go out that coat to . It

52:42

had one of the zippers along the neck , yeah

52:46

.

52:46

I was wondering if that was what members

52:49

. What's it called ?

52:50

members only , members only . That's it . No

52:52

, they had the zip pocket on the might have been

52:54

a London fog .

52:56

Yes , I know fog .

52:57

So after so Daniel , now in

52:59

all white and now covered in pasta and sauce

53:01

. I am curious had

53:04

it been another server that ran

53:06

into the ones Not Daniel

53:08

, but another server to the run into

53:10

the server who's carrying the pasta Would

53:13

the whole room still have laughed as much

53:15

as they did ? Oh yeah

53:17

, I know like dudes lay in there with pasta

53:20

all over himself and there's another server right next to him

53:22

and the whole room is just laughing at these

53:24

two cracking up .

53:26

Well , that's what Johnny , he saw . He saw Daniel

53:28

there in that little , in the little window there , and

53:30

that's when he like he forces the

53:32

kiss upon Ali , hmm , and then

53:35

she gets all like stop it . But they didn't even

53:37

hang around to see that part . Mm-hmm , he shouldn't

53:39

have been there . Though , like you said , davey's just trying to

53:41

like call his shit again .

53:42

He's just stirring it up and that part

53:44

with the what wait a second , wait , wait .

53:45

He wasn't stirring it up . He was supposed to have a

53:47

date with this chick after she was done with dinner

53:50

right at 9 30 . Well then , it's 9

53:52

40 and Daniel's waiting outside .

53:54

Okay , so where's this ? You know ? But they weren't

53:56

like inclusive , Like she's allowed

53:58

to date other people if she wanted to . Like he's getting all

54:00

, it's getting all weird .

54:03

And those people in the country club . They always want to make rich

54:05

people look Evil you know

54:08

, they're laughing in there , dude . That goes back

54:10

to look at that poor kid . Look at that kid .

54:12

Black and white Of course of course Did

54:15

anyone else besides me the when

54:17

. When Daniel and mr Miyagi

54:20

are in the rowboat and Miyagi

54:22

shakes him out off of the the front of the boat

54:25

, the first thing I thought

54:27

of was clutch cargo , because

54:29

he's like Daniel's

54:32

son . You all went behind that he is

54:34

Ah .

54:37

I don't know alive .

54:38

I told him Paul alive .

54:41

Wasn't , wasn't Daniel's mom like , didn't you

54:43

know he was hanging out with Miyagi all the time either

54:45

?

54:45

Well , she , I think she likes it because he

54:47

got a friend . It's a father figure , you know .

54:49

yeah he is fatherless yeah

54:51

ps .

54:54

I loved that . That was like the first or second

54:56

word in the synopsis . You , you read

54:58

, matt what father , father

55:00

, fatherless . That's why I repeated it like dang

55:02

, yeah , yeah , all right , a fatherless

55:05

I know , Jesus Was a test .

55:07

Did they say what happened to his dad ?

55:09

Is there any ?

55:09

part of his biological didn't bother .

55:11

No , so he just he's somewhere

55:13

in new jersey with another family could

55:16

be , could be . He should . They should

55:18

have him back on like the uh cobra kai

55:20

. That'd be a good episode , could be long

55:22

lost father .

55:23

Maybe they'll go into that . There's a new season coming out who's

55:25

this ?

55:26

a book , season four ? I think no three

55:28

.

55:29

More than that , we might be on five five , it

55:31

might be oh . Who's to ?

55:33

say I mean , these kids are like 27 now .

55:35

Right . Oh my god , I still can't believe he was 22

55:37

when he did this .

55:38

Yeah , dude .

55:38

He was old . Well

55:40

, after the failed date , daniel

55:44

makes his way to mr Miyagi's house , where

55:46

he finds a drunken mr Miyagi

55:48

Lamenting his long dead wife

55:50

and son . The next day , daniel

55:53

trains alone . The

55:55

following day , daniel's training

55:58

continues with mr Miyagi , where

56:00

Daniel finally learns how to go on

56:02

the offense as he is trained in

56:04

how to punch . Time passes

56:06

and we come upon a red letter

56:09

day in the larusso family , daniel's

56:11

18th birthday , which

56:14

also happens to be the day before

56:16

the all valley karate tournament . From

56:18

mr Miyagi , daniel receives a

56:21

gi and the keys to

56:23

any of mr Miyagi's cars of

56:25

his choosing , ready to

56:27

take on the world . Daniel makes his

56:29

way to golf and stuff where he

56:31

reconciles with alley during a montage

56:34

of scenes with Young hearts playing

56:36

in the background .

56:38

Young hearts beat fast .

56:39

So you're driving down the road .

56:41

You know , I didn't think about that . He turned

56:43

18 and it's an under 18 .

56:45

Bam , that was one of my questions . Thank

56:47

you for pointing that out . It is the all valley

56:49

under 18 Karate tournament

56:52

, so there again he's picking on kids .

56:53

Well no , that's like when you're , when you're playing

56:55

t-ball and stuff , there's kids that are like it goes by

56:57

the yeah , goes by the date of , like the birthday if

57:00

you're 18 , under 18 .

57:01

Well , then again , are you saying Daniel's a cheater ?

57:03

then maybe he's just saying , like he was

57:05

, wasn't under .

57:06

Because maybe johnny was like only 15 at the time

57:08

.

57:08

There's got to be some wiggle room . What

57:10

if they would have scheduled it a week earlier ? Then

57:12

, all of a sudden , he wouldn't be 18 . Like there's got to

57:14

be some kind of wiggle in that .

57:15

Well , no , it's like signing up for kids sports . There's always

57:18

like a sign update .

57:19

Hmm , like , if you're like in , yeah , like

57:21

a little league , we'd have kids that turn 13

57:23

during the season . You know when it's on 12

57:25

, you know usually 12 is the age but

57:28

um , yeah , that can make a difference sometimes

57:30

. I know , like in travel baseball , like

57:32

my son played for a couple years in there and

57:34

they would always target the kids that were older

57:37

. Like that would turn if you're on 11

57:39

. You , you know they'd have kids that were already

57:41

12 , but they would , because

57:43

that makes a difference . You know , I don't know about by

57:46

time you're 17 , 18 , 19 . I

57:48

mean I'm sure you can get an edge though , but a 10 to

57:50

12 year olds .

57:50

Big difference .

57:51

Look , puberty starts kicking in at varying ages

57:53

, man . But yeah , luck , the older you are man , is it ? You

57:55

know ?

57:55

so you think , you think alley was all impressed that he had

57:57

, like this , new yellow 100? . Yeah

58:00

, she was like oh , I kind of like him now .

58:01

Well , now he's , oh , he's like one of my friends , he's

58:03

got a fancy car . And

58:05

he has confidence in himself . Now that he knows how to punch

58:07

, you , do whatever .

58:08

Well , that was a scene too . You were talking about the friends and how

58:11

her friends were kind of jerky and

58:13

he's in there trying to apologize and they're

58:15

all getting in the way . Yep , like they got to put

58:17

their two cents and beat . It has nothing to do with

58:19

you . Like you know what I mean . Like they

58:21

, they just got to keep putting in their two cents the whole time

58:23

.

58:24

Get your white ass away from that window .

58:26

Yeah , they , uh . I , I did think it

58:29

had an that part .

58:29

Yeah , uh , oh , so

58:31

curious between both of you . Oh

58:34

, all of the cars and mr Miyagi's

58:37

lot . I want to pick that one . Which one would you

58:39

have taken ? I for one would not have taken

58:41

some bright canary yellow convertible

58:43

. No , it was that black one . I would have taken

58:45

the black one right next to it . Yep for sure .

58:47

I think that's because the only one that they focus on , because they always keep

58:49

showing the canary yellow convertible

58:51

, the black one right next , because it had . What is that ?

58:53

a Ford who knows , wait

58:57

, wait , wait . The yellow one or the black one ? No , the black one . The

58:59

black one was a 40 something

59:01

. I would say Chevy or

59:04

Ford .

59:04

I thought it was a Ford . The yellow one was a 1948

59:07

Ford super Deluxe

59:09

. It's de dash l ux .

59:11

What is ?

59:12

one run today there , dave I that I don't know

59:14

. That's a . That's the type of apartment in the sky

59:16

.

59:17

Yeah , Deluxe apartment .

59:19

D moving on up .

59:20

Moving on up Deluxe . Wasn't that the name

59:22

of the band ? That's saying groove is in the heart . That

59:25

was delight , oh delight .

59:28

What was that in the ? Was that a 90 song

59:30

? Yeah ?

59:31

Yeah , very early , but 90s on the

59:33

last 91 , 92 . So

59:37

good , so good oh so fun

59:39

fact , we see

59:42

mr Miyagi the character lamenting

59:44

the loss of his wife and his son from world war

59:46

two . In

59:48

reality , pat marita Spent

59:51

time in an internment camp while growing

59:53

up .

59:54

I was gonna say he was way too young . The . Yeah

59:56

, correct right , right , right . But I mean , I

59:58

thought that's where you're going with it .

59:59

Yeah , he lived in . Pat marita lived during

1:00:02

world war two , again born and

1:00:04

raised in the united states . But at the

1:00:06

time there was this thing against

1:00:08

japanese where . Look man , we

1:00:11

don't know , you could be terrorists .

1:00:12

Yeah , they put them in camp . They put them in camps . George

1:00:14

takai was in that , one of those two .

1:00:16

Really .

1:00:19

The um , actually uh , prisoner

1:00:22

of war camp was right there on the depot in new

1:00:24

carmelin . That was a japanese prisoner of war camp .

1:00:26

Oh , wow .

1:00:26

There was another one of those , uh

1:00:28

, one of the trails where my buddies

1:00:31

and I go hiking , or the trails of tears . Yes , the

1:00:33

trail of tears . No , that was for the american indians

1:00:35

. Okay , uh , there was the . Uh

1:00:37

, there was a , an internment camp

1:00:39

Outside of carlisle , basically like between

1:00:41

here and carlisle .

1:00:42

Wow , hmm , who

1:00:44

knew ?

1:00:44

is it haunted ?

1:00:46

No , okay , not to my knowledge . The

1:00:49

next day the tournament

1:00:51

arrives , despite

1:00:53

some pre tournament hazing from a few

1:00:55

cobra kai members , daniel

1:00:57

wins his first match and we watch

1:01:00

Daniel win again and again

1:01:02

in a montage of scenes

1:01:04

playing to the tune of you're the best

1:01:06

, nothing's gonna ever keep you down

1:01:08

.

1:01:08

Heck , no , that's didn't the one dude , the first guy

1:01:11

you thought ? Didn't that look like a napoleon dynamite ?

1:01:12

Yeah , what was that guy ? Yeah , he was

1:01:14

not looking .

1:01:15

Uh , yeah , intimidating

1:01:17

the napoleon the acting

1:01:19

, or I should say the the punch

1:01:21

is thrown , were pretty lame in that verse .

1:01:23

He was very much glass joe .

1:01:25

He was your first . Oh , my god yeah opponent

1:01:27

.

1:01:27

It's probably like one of the writers or screen director , like

1:01:29

one of the kids like get in there .

1:01:31

Yeah just no so glass joe is

1:01:33

the fighter . His first opponent is don flamenco

1:01:35

. He has the rose in his mouth

1:01:37

.

1:01:37

No that's not the first one .

1:01:38

Are you sure .

1:01:39

I'm positive glass . Joe is the first guy .

1:01:41

Yeah , then don flamenco is the second he's don flamenco

1:01:43

.

1:01:43

second , he has the rose in his mouth .

1:01:45

Oh shit .

1:01:46

You're right , you're right , you're right .

1:01:47

And then the third guy is uh , uh the pig

1:01:49

guy , or um punching the belly king , king hippo

1:01:51

king hippo .

1:01:52

Oh , not bald bull , it is king hippo . My

1:01:54

bad , and in fact the name the kid's name is billy

1:01:56

Right , the character's name ?

1:01:58

Lily the kid , yeah , little mac little

1:02:01

mac .

1:02:01

God damn , I gotta play mike tyson's punch out

1:02:03

. I have it right over , right over there we can play . I'm

1:02:05

gonna beat it real quick , I'll beat tyson .

1:02:07

I can beat him .

1:02:08

Fucking game here . Yeah , getting well . Who's the

1:02:10

guy before tyson ? Uh , macho , mr

1:02:12

Saman . Mr .

1:02:13

Saman .

1:02:13

Oh no , super macho super macho man yeah super

1:02:16

macho , yeah he'd

1:02:18

spend , yeah he was real muscular .

1:02:19

I gotta play that game .

1:02:21

Oh , there was also the third guy , so

1:02:23

it was a glass , joe don flamenco

1:02:25

. And then it was the guy Great

1:02:28

tiger . He had the oh , turban

1:02:31

.

1:02:31

Yeah , you have to hit the turban and your body blows .

1:02:33

Yeah , yeah , yeah , yep Classic

1:02:36

.

1:02:36

Yeah vintage .

1:02:37

uh , nintendo review yeah .

1:02:39

Oh yeah , like old nintendo games .

1:02:41

Hell yeah . Well , fight after

1:02:43

fight , daniel makes his way

1:02:45

to the semi-finals . First

1:02:47

up , larusso versus bobby

1:02:50

brown at the it's

1:02:53

true , is he there ? It is his prerogative

1:02:55

to beat the shit out of daniel . It was a whole new

1:02:57

addition at the , at the insistence

1:02:59

of his sensei , bobby lands

1:03:02

a cheap shot on daniel's leg and

1:03:04

is disqualified . This does

1:03:06

, however , automatically

1:03:08

move daniel up to the finals .

1:03:11

Bobby was a good one , right , he was one like I'm sorry , daniel , I

1:03:13

don't want to do it . Yeah .

1:03:14

Yeah , but how can daniel compete

1:03:16

with a bum leg ? A little Miyagi

1:03:19

magic can fix that . The final

1:03:21

fight is soon at hand Daniel

1:03:24

versus Johnny .

1:03:26

It's funny that Mr Miyagi thing where

1:03:28

he slaps his hands and rubs them together . Yeah , I

1:03:31

do that to my kids . Sometimes they're like dad , this hurts and I do that

1:03:33

whole thing they're like . Yeah , they're like what are you doing

1:03:35

, all the Miyagi ?

1:03:35

Yeah , does it work .

1:03:37

No , I think it does for them , because they're like little kids . They think

1:03:39

you know what I mean If they fall like oh , down my leg I can't

1:03:41

. I was like here , let me see it .

1:03:42

Yeah , clap your hands , create some heat and

1:03:44

put it on there You're like oh , I feel that that's

1:03:46

basically helped .

1:03:47

So we're talking about competitors , right as he's going

1:03:49

, like earlier we were talking about his first fight against

1:03:51

Napoleon Dynamite .

1:03:52

Right .

1:03:53

So , as again at the montage

1:03:55

of you're the best around , or you're the best

1:03:58

Daniel's fighting all these

1:04:00

varying people , and I think his first Cobra

1:04:02

Kai fight is against this

1:04:04

fat dude , this

1:04:06

brown-haired fat guy .

1:04:08

Right .

1:04:10

And he does this walk-up strut

1:04:12

that he's like you know , they've already bowed

1:04:14

and the fight's begun and he just walks up to Daniel and

1:04:16

Daniel just knees him in the

1:04:19

gut and he falls over Quick . So

1:04:21

you can actually read the lips of

1:04:23

. So Johnny and Chris

1:04:25

are watching this . West Marine and Johnny . Yeah , yeah , yeah , and

1:04:27

you can read his lips . He says Johnny

1:04:30

says to Chris he's not good , yeah

1:04:32

, he's not good . You can see

1:04:34

his lips moving . He says that about Daniel . No

1:04:37

, he says it about the fat guy .

1:04:38

About the fat guy .

1:04:39

That Daniel just beat the shit out of Like justifying

1:04:41

it . Yeah , I didn't catch that Matt

1:04:43

you had mentioned . I guess Bobby is the

1:04:46

. I guess the quote-unquote good-ish

1:04:48

, good-ish .

1:04:49

Is he the one that when they he's torn when they were

1:04:51

out at the fence and he's like , hey

1:04:53

, he had enough , johnny . Yes , exactly Johnny . Stop it

1:04:55

, Johnny . That's Bobby .

1:04:56

Okay , so we all have

1:04:58

seen that hairstyle that Bobby sports

1:05:01

. I'm curious , matt , yes , did

1:05:03

you have that same haircut when you were a kid ? Of course , of

1:05:05

course .

1:05:07

The part down the middle it's always class , it

1:05:09

was so feathered . Actually , I think George

1:05:12

had one of the best feathered dudes I've

1:05:14

ever seen in my life .

1:05:15

I believe it .

1:05:16

Man so lush . I remember like he'd be in the bathroom

1:05:19

like a towel and listening to like Loverboy .

1:05:22

Like blow drying it .

1:05:23

Yeah , blow drying .

1:05:25

Man .

1:05:26

Every George is working for the weekend .

1:05:28

Yeah , he's like working for

1:05:30

the weekend . I can almost smell the brooch

1:05:32

. Turn me loose . Faberge cologne

1:05:35

Faberge .

1:05:37

Ah , yeah , turn me loose , but

1:05:39

no , the feather , I'm bringing that back . I love

1:05:41

that track , which one turned me loose

1:05:43

yeah . Oh , that whole album . I don't know , I forget

1:05:45

what the album's called , but it's like . It's like those

1:05:47

jeans , oh , loverboy album .

1:05:49

Yeah , it might be Loverboy Working for the

1:05:51

weekend .

1:05:53

Yeah , great album . I'm saying like when I because

1:05:56

cry to kids on all the time . But if ever , this

1:05:58

montage is always something like I just keep on if

1:06:00

I'm like flipping through . Like I just leave it

1:06:02

and sit down and like a watch for like the three to five

1:06:05

minutes at the end . The music Just makes you feel good

1:06:07

.

1:06:07

I love that music . I like any

1:06:09

underdog story , so that's no

1:06:11

different .

1:06:12

Was he an underdog , though , in real life .

1:06:14

I mean , you would say he had no

1:06:16

formal training .

1:06:17

Yeah , he was trained by a master .

1:06:20

He had two months at best of training . In

1:06:22

fact , no , a month and a half .

1:06:24

Yeah , you figure October .

1:06:27

So this was after the Halloween dance , right

1:06:29

so ?

1:06:30

But Miyagi was like his , like family

1:06:32

history , like they were , he

1:06:35

was passing on techniques that have been there since the

1:06:38

beginning of Miyagi time .

1:06:39

Of course , they had the stereotype that

1:06:41

they couldn't have Chuck Norris train in him . It

1:06:44

had to be somebody from Japan

1:06:46

or China or wherever .

1:06:47

No , I'm just like he might have not been like that

1:06:49

much of an underdog . I think he was given a lot of

1:06:51

Proper training . Yeah , like

1:06:53

the best training that you could get .

1:06:55

You have an edge .

1:06:56

Well , as Mr Miyagi had once said to Daniel

1:06:58

, as Daniel's complaining about the bullies , he

1:07:00

says well , there's no such thing as bad students

1:07:03

, only bad teacher .

1:07:05

And I like , when they get to the match , he goes . I

1:07:08

thought you knew what we're doing here in Miyagi . He's like no

1:07:10

, I , I , I fall for my life . Now for points .

1:07:12

There you go .

1:07:13

So he's never fought in anything like this .

1:07:16

While the climax commences , a

1:07:18

punch to Johnny's torso lands Daniel

1:07:20

with his first point . Thereafter

1:07:22

, a scissor leg and a blow

1:07:25

to the back of Johnny's head lands Daniel

1:07:27

with his second point and Johnny

1:07:29

with a bloody nose . Sweep

1:07:32

the leg is the direction

1:07:34

given to Johnny by Sensei Crease . That

1:07:37

move gives Johnny his first point

1:07:39

and Daniel a world of pain . Thereafter

1:07:42

, an elbow to Daniel's ribcage

1:07:44

lands Johnny with his second point . Frustrated

1:07:48

with a slow progression of

1:07:50

what should have been an easy victory for Johnny

1:07:52

, johnny grabs hold of Daniel's

1:07:55

bum leg and gives him an elbow

1:07:57

to the back of the knee . All

1:07:59

hope seems lost for Daniel . Tensions

1:08:02

are high . Recalling his

1:08:04

Sensei's crane technique , daniel

1:08:06

calls upon this ancient Chinese secret

1:08:09

and miraculously lands it flawlessly

1:08:12

. This final kick

1:08:14

to Johnny's face cements Daniel's

1:08:16

victory . A humbled Johnny

1:08:19

hands the winning trophy to Daniel

1:08:21

and Mr Miyagi looks on smiling

1:08:24

with satisfaction .

1:08:26

You're all right , LaRusso yeah

1:08:28

.

1:08:28

See , he can be all right , he is

1:08:30

a good guy .

1:08:31

Come , johnny , put him in body bag , get

1:08:33

him in my body bag .

1:08:35

Good , johnny , which guy was that one

1:08:37

that wasn't .

1:08:37

Bobby , obviously yeah , that wasn't

1:08:39

Bobby .

1:08:40

It wasn't Bobby , it wasn't Dutch .

1:08:42

It was Dutch , I think .

1:08:43

It was either Tommy or Jimmy . Tommy or Jimmy .

1:08:45

Who's the one that looked like he was in the Lost Boys with the blonde

1:08:47

hair ? Was that Jimmy ?

1:08:48

That was Dutch .

1:08:49

Dutch .

1:08:50

Who was Steve McQueen's kid and that was actually a dye

1:08:52

job on that hair . Yeah , that

1:08:54

was a pretty bad dye job too .

1:08:55

Get him a body bag . What if they used a sun

1:08:58

in for that ?

1:08:59

I remember sun in yeah .

1:09:01

When you couldn't afford sun in , you would put lemon

1:09:03

and water .

1:09:04

Spray that on your hair . Spray that on your hair Spray that on

1:09:07

your hair .

1:09:07

I did that yeah . Some kids use Kool-Aid too .

1:09:09

No , that was a diet Diet different colors .

1:09:11

Is that a ? Thing ?

1:09:12

Yeah , I think girls did that and stuff

1:09:14

.

1:09:14

Before we get into .

1:09:15

Mikey Zack and I did that one year with Kool-Aid

1:09:18

, but Kool-Aid .

1:09:18

You dyed your hair with Kool-Aid .

1:09:20

Yeah , over the summer .

1:09:21

Doesn't it just wash out ?

1:09:22

It does when you wash it out with soap and stuff

1:09:24

. But you dye it in there . You just

1:09:26

do a soft mix of it in the sink

1:09:29

. You put red or blue . It's

1:09:31

pretty cool .

1:09:32

I remember that being a thing I do not remember that

1:09:34

one .

1:09:35

I do recall questioning this

1:09:38

scene here , these fights . So

1:09:41

Johnny's non-karate punch to

1:09:44

the face got him no points

1:09:46

. So this is just when he just basically

1:09:48

hooks Daniel and hits him . He got no points with

1:09:51

that , but Daniel had

1:09:53

blows to the face . I

1:09:55

should say Daniel received points for blows

1:09:57

to the face .

1:09:58

So what's the difference ?

1:09:59

Yeah , so what face or head blows are okay and which ones

1:10:01

aren't ?

1:10:02

I think you're allowed not to close . It's like an open

1:10:04

hand .

1:10:04

Oh , maybe I think sense .

1:10:08

I think when they don't wear the yeah , like an open hand

1:10:10

to the face is a strike

1:10:12

that counts , like if you

1:10:14

punch a closed fist to the face . I think doesn't count .

1:10:16

This makes sense now , okay , that

1:10:18

does make sense there was like the

1:10:20

karate thing was huge , back then Huge .

1:10:21

Yeah , everybody was in the karate . People

1:10:24

were doing all different types of karate .

1:10:26

Chinese stars were all the rage .

1:10:27

They certainly weren't num chucks .

1:10:29

Yeah , I was wondering num chucks , chinese stars , all

1:10:31

that . Do you think that was out ? I remember

1:10:34

around this time that was hot stuff . That

1:10:37

was like the hot thing to have Chinese stars .

1:10:38

Sure , you could buy them at Big M .

1:10:40

Yep , yeah , the Big M market . Do

1:10:42

you think this movie was the reason , or was there something

1:10:44

else that I'm missing that the guy had his own karate

1:10:47

stand .

1:10:47

Yeah , I'm pretty sure .

1:10:49

No . So you had the Kung Fu movies from the

1:10:51

70s and early 80s with the voiceovers

1:10:53

. You'd see their mouths moving , but you'd

1:10:55

hear English coming out . Those

1:10:58

were big . Wushu is the

1:11:00

name of that variety of movie

1:11:02

, by the way . Wushu .

1:11:03

Oh shit , yeah , that was the Wu

1:11:05

.

1:11:05

Tang and by Wushu I think

1:11:07

it's WXU Wushu

1:11:10

.

1:11:11

But yeah , you could buy those like the sticks

1:11:14

with the knife on the end , Shit yeah . You

1:11:16

could buy , like the stars . You could buy those size

1:11:19

or whatever they were called with the things , with the pokers , I

1:11:22

don't know you could get anything at that freaking store . It was awesome

1:11:24

.

1:11:24

You get one of those like brass knuckles with the knife attached

1:11:27

to it . You know what I'm talking about .

1:11:29

Dang Everybody wanted a

1:11:31

switchblade .

1:11:31

You would put your hands to it . It'd be like

1:11:33

brass knuckles , but then it'd also be a knife , so

1:11:35

you could punch or stab .

1:11:36

Oh , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . All kinds of things . The handle

1:11:39

so it was just the handle of the knife

1:11:41

Was open . Well , no , it had

1:11:43

metal rings at the end of it into which

1:11:45

you would insert your fingers to grab that knife .

1:11:47

So you could stab yeah , Stab and oh I was

1:11:49

thinking the . Rambo knife .

1:11:50

That was all the rage too .

1:11:51

Shit yeah , you would take the compass off the back and it

1:11:53

had the matches and fishing lines hidden

1:11:55

there . So one of those at the big M .

1:11:58

The big M was a spot and you get some fresh what's chips

1:12:00

there .

1:12:01

I think at the time , I mean , I paid like 14 bucks

1:12:03

for it , which is a lot of money .

1:12:05

Cash Back in those days straight cash

1:12:07

.

1:12:11

Fun facts .

1:12:13

Oh , I love this part .

1:12:15

It's about that time .

1:12:16

I love it even more because you too . I'm leaving it up to

1:12:18

you to impress me . What do you

1:12:20

?

1:12:20

got . So I'll start off here with Ralph

1:12:23

Macchio is in every scene of this film

1:12:25

. There's not one scene where you don't see

1:12:27

him .

1:12:27

Oh , it's like Superman .

1:12:29

Fun fact , that's crazy , he

1:12:31

is like Superman .

1:12:33

Yeah , that's a fun fact . Oh

1:12:35

no , I just found this whole movie is a fun fact .

1:12:38

The whole thing's fun .

1:12:38

The whole thing is fun within itself .

1:12:40

So the ref at the

1:12:42

end of this movie , the guy at the very

1:12:44

end who's officiating , the the mustache

1:12:47

guy . Yes , His name is Pat E Johnson

1:12:49

. He was a former student of Chuck Norris

1:12:51

. I knew that .

1:12:52

Hey .

1:12:54

He was a former expert himself , so

1:12:58

Daniel LaRusso , original

1:13:01

name they were thinking for this movie . Anybody

1:13:03

know ?

1:13:03

Butch .

1:13:04

Butch Cassidy no , it was .

1:13:05

DeVionne Charlemagne . That's

1:13:10

the one I had heard I'm off , I can't remember .

1:13:13

Daniel Weber .

1:13:14

Yes , there it is Daniel Weber .

1:13:16

And then they were like well , Is any like a producer

1:13:18

or like a music guy ?

1:13:20

Daniel Weber , I don't know . He played for Michigan

1:13:22

, I thought .

1:13:22

Oh , daniel Weber .

1:13:24

No , Spud Weber . Spud Weber .

1:13:27

No , daniel Weber , Like , doesn't he make , like the soundtracks to

1:13:29

like Disney movies .

1:13:30

I mean he could I don't know , he might be a name like that . And

1:13:33

how about Johnny Lawrence ? You know his original name , no Matt

1:13:36

.

1:13:36

Todd , todd

1:13:38

, todd .

1:13:40

Kazinsky Johnny Coltrane .

1:13:41

Yeah , donald Rice , which

1:13:45

that doesn't sound .

1:13:47

The names are based on the writers , like , I think , family

1:13:50

, and that was where the whole concept of the story was

1:13:52

. We went to train in martial arts and there was actually like

1:13:54

a Miyagae guy or whatever they taught him .

1:13:57

Did you say there was a Miyagae guy ?

1:13:58

Yeah , this is the name Miyagae or something like that . This

1:14:01

is Sensei .

1:14:02

So , talking about the ages , we said Machio 22

1:14:05

. Elizabeth Shoe 20 .

1:14:07

Rob .

1:14:08

Garrison . Tony O'Dell were 23 . Chad

1:14:10

McQueen 22 . Rob

1:14:13

Ron Thomas was 22 . And

1:14:15

William Zapka , who played Johnny Lawrence was

1:14:17

18 . He was the youngest of them all that makes sense

1:14:20

.

1:14:20

Yeah , and I had no

1:14:22

idea that Machio was that old

1:14:24

. He just looks like a baby

1:14:27

.

1:14:27

I remember like back when this came

1:14:29

out and the movie was out and stuff and he was in

1:14:32

all those magazines . It was a big deal

1:14:34

that he was in these Teen Beats

1:14:36

magazines . He was like 24 , 25 by

1:14:38

then , he was older .

1:14:40

But that's Thank you for bringing that up , because

1:14:42

I'm thinking about that this whole time . So in

1:14:44

these Teen Beat magazines , which are

1:14:46

intended for teens , they're

1:14:49

looking at this grown ass , very adult

1:14:51

man , like that's fucked up .

1:14:53

It is .

1:14:54

Yeah , yeah , rob

1:14:56

Thomas , wasn't he even playing with Santana .

1:14:58

Yeah , rob Thomas , matchbox , matchbox 20 . Yeah

1:15:00

, let

1:15:03

me think here .

1:15:04

Do we know any of the Kudahutashutas

1:15:06

?

1:15:07

instead of it was like everybody who

1:15:09

was everybody in the 80s . Is that right ?

1:15:11

Yes .

1:15:11

No , I have a big list here , yep . So

1:15:14

for Daniel Sean Penn , robert

1:15:17

Downey Jr , charlie Sheen , john

1:15:19

Crier , emilio Estevez .

1:15:21

Could you imagine , john Crier ?

1:15:23

No , he would have sucked . I hate that guy .

1:15:25

Nicholas Cage , Anthony Edwards , C Thomas

1:15:28

Howe , Tom Cruise .

1:15:29

Tom Cruise . He would have been fun , of course . Yeah , cruise could have been

1:15:31

, of course .

1:15:32

Right , eric Stoltz , db Sweeney

1:15:34

and

1:15:36

then Ralph Maggio got the role ultimately

1:15:39

because of performance in the Outsiders

1:15:41

.

1:15:41

Oh , great move . Yes , they

1:15:43

actually thought Tom Cruise was too tall for

1:15:45

the role . He was too tall .

1:15:46

He couldn't do the crane . Yeah , he

1:15:49

couldn't reach his face from the kick . You kick him in the

1:15:51

nuts . Yeah , you couldn't fight anybody .

1:15:53

What's worse is that he would have been shorter than Mr Miyagi

1:15:55

.

1:15:56

His crane . Yeah , he would have kept getting disqualified

1:15:58

for nut kicks .

1:15:59

He would have needed a crane in order to pull off

1:16:01

the crane technique .

1:16:02

For sure , this was the top video

1:16:04

rental of 1985 .

1:16:06

Makes sense .

1:16:07

Yeah , I can believe that .

1:16:08

Sure .

1:16:09

I know I probably rented it a million times . Hell yeah

1:16:11

, supposedly you know . These

1:16:13

are all these names we were throwing out . It's

1:16:15

from the internet . So who knows it's

1:16:17

from Jim Carrey audition .

1:16:20

I don't hear that .

1:16:21

Interesting .

1:16:21

I don't know about that . One Wait for Johnny .

1:16:24

Johnny or Daniel ?

1:16:25

Okay .

1:16:25

Yeah , both .

1:16:26

I guess he's

1:16:29

like fuck it , I'll try either . He's

1:16:31

like I'm .

1:16:32

Johnny , okay , yeah , it

1:16:34

would have been funny to see him , michael

1:16:36

.

1:16:36

J .

1:16:36

Fox was considered for the title role

1:16:39

, but he did back to the future .

1:16:41

He chose wisely .

1:16:41

Yeah , and Elizabeth Shoe ended up hooking up

1:16:44

with him then and those .

1:16:45

I guess what in the sequel , then right . Correct

1:16:47

, she replaced yeah .

1:16:52

Oh , the Sean Penn thing . He

1:16:54

turned it down because he wanted to do more adult roles

1:16:56

. That he later on

1:16:58

said he thought Machio did a great job in it .

1:17:01

Sean Penn would have been too serious .

1:17:03

Yeah , so for the role of Ally , Demi

1:17:06

Moore , Helen Hunt . They

1:17:08

were both considered for that role .

1:17:12

Helen Hunt's in the new true detective on

1:17:14

HBO . They heard that was really good .

1:17:16

Yeah , it wasn't something . A movie that

1:17:18

I watched recently Helen Hunt and

1:17:20

it was like a really good movie .

1:17:22

Wings .

1:17:23

It was called . It was about no

1:17:25

, no , it wasn't Wings , it was about

1:17:27

a thing called Frogging . Did you ever hear of that Frogging

1:17:30

? It's P-H-R-O-G-G-I-N-G .

1:17:33

No , to explain .

1:17:35

So Frogging basically is like these

1:17:37

people vloggers and stuff people

1:17:39

that video and put shit on YouTube . They'll

1:17:41

go around and try to break into a house

1:17:43

and see how long they can last with you , not knowing

1:17:45

they're there . So it'll live in your attic

1:17:47

.

1:17:48

Jesus Christ , I saw some of that movie . Yeah

1:17:50

, it was a great movie .

1:17:51

They'll live in your basement .

1:17:53

They'll live in you know , I don't really now I don't really

1:17:55

want to give the way You're saying . This is more than minutes

1:17:57

, this is like days .

1:17:59

And like people think their house is haunted and they're

1:18:01

like , oh shit , why is that

1:18:03

open now ? Why is this ? Why is this ? Like

1:18:05

they screw with you while they're living there and they document

1:18:08

it , but you got to do it in like a big house

1:18:11

, you know where you

1:18:13

can't do it in like a trailer or something like that

1:18:15

.

1:18:15

Holy shit , it's crazy . But

1:18:17

it was a really good what's this called again , frogging

1:18:19

, frogging , not soaking . But soaking

1:18:22

.

1:18:22

Now that's in the .

1:18:24

Mormons , is it like a pH pH

1:18:26

or just yeah , ph .

1:18:27

R-O-G-G-I-N-G . Huh , here's

1:18:29

a fun , funny one here . This is , and I can believe

1:18:31

this but .

1:18:32

But it is fun fact land .

1:18:34

And I hate to be hogging all these , but no , you got

1:18:36

them . But now this is

1:18:38

supposedly . But Kyle Eastwood

1:18:41

, son of Clint Eastwood , went

1:18:43

out for the title role of the Crowdy Kid

1:18:45

. He failed to get the part , denied

1:18:48

, denied . Clint Eastwood was pissed

1:18:50

, real upset . He banned

1:18:52

all Coca-Cola products from

1:18:54

the sets of any movie he was associated

1:18:57

with . And at the time Columbia

1:19:00

Studios was owned by Coca-Cola . So

1:19:02

if you notice , in the movie in the beginning they

1:19:05

had a Minute Maid Orange Juice

1:19:07

out and they made a big deal of showing

1:19:10

the Minute Maid and that was a product

1:19:12

, coca-cola product .

1:19:14

I guess of that company and also a Sprite

1:19:16

can later on .

1:19:17

I don't know why , and that he would even

1:19:20

have pulled even care , because this is

1:19:22

probably very early on in his career

1:19:24

. But Machio supposedly didn't like that and

1:19:26

like was pissed about the promotion

1:19:29

of these Coke products . It's like , dude , you're

1:19:31

in this movie getting paid . Deal

1:19:33

with it , yeah .

1:19:35

What he wanted the Coke products . He didn't .

1:19:37

He was upset that they were promoting them because it all

1:19:39

had to do with product placing . Because Coca-Cola owned

1:19:42

Columbia , had a tie to it and he tried

1:19:44

to cover the Sprite logo . They said

1:19:46

in that scene if you pay close attention , what

1:19:48

an ass you know .

1:19:49

I'll tell you what , ralph if you're not acting

1:19:51

in this movie , you're going to be acting in commercials

1:19:54

.

1:19:54

Right , stop trying to be so , machio , yeah

1:19:56

.

1:19:57

I thought what you did there . What was

1:19:59

he really in after the Karate Kid series .

1:20:02

Cobra Kai . Yeah , that's what I mean .

1:20:05

Like after that , like what was he really in my ?

1:20:06

cousin Vinnie . Oh yeah , yeah , he was

1:20:08

good in that .

1:20:09

Other than that I got nothing .

1:20:11

Yeah , I can't think of anything .

1:20:13

I'm going to be Ralph Machio movies and that's it .

1:20:16

Yeah , um da da da

1:20:18

. So William Zabka

1:20:20

, after this movie , continued his karate

1:20:22

training to the . He

1:20:25

became a second degree green belt . So I don't know where

1:20:27

that lies on the chart , if

1:20:29

a green belt is close to black belt or how

1:20:32

good that is .

1:20:32

but I have no clue , no clue . I

1:20:35

know that , unless I'm mistaken , this

1:20:37

was Zabka's first movie .

1:20:39

Yeah , yeah , because he was 18 . And yeah

1:20:41

, elizabeth Shue at the time was

1:20:43

enrolled at Harvard . Dang smart

1:20:46

.

1:20:47

Smart and sexy .

1:20:48

Yeah , stopped their studies to be in this movie .

1:20:51

That wonder if she ever went back . Figure if you're

1:20:53

like to be Harvard educated , I

1:20:55

mean they except like 2% .

1:20:57

Well , you had your chance to ask her , and you missed

1:20:59

it .

1:21:00

I should have told her that .

1:21:01

Just think of we would have did this before , that , I

1:21:04

mean , you'd be able to go up there hey , we did this

1:21:06

movie and ask her .

1:21:07

I wonder like what stars are like , cause she's not like

1:21:09

super huge , but she's big enough that people would

1:21:11

definitely big enough . But , but I mean , like , do they

1:21:13

get annoyed ? Like if you would just say , hey , like , can I get

1:21:15

a pick ? You know what I mean . Like , where do you stop that

1:21:17

at ?

1:21:17

Like , I don't know that the person would actually

1:21:20

enjoy it , maybe for the recognition .

1:21:22

Look , I gotta tell you , I bet that they all enjoy

1:21:25

it for maybe the first few months of their career

1:21:27

, exactly . And then it gets old really

1:21:29

quickly .

1:21:29

Cause , like if you can't even go out , like she was with her husband or

1:21:32

I don't know if she's married , but I mean she was with

1:21:34

somebody and they were like having a good time , you know talking

1:21:36

, or whatever . You don't ? Hey , elizabeth Shue

1:21:38

, like I love your movies , can I get a picture or something like that ?

1:21:40

I don't know . Yeah , I got go

1:21:42

. No , I'm sorry . I'm sure , like Zapp said , after a while

1:21:44

it gets old .

1:21:45

It gets really old , so old . I

1:21:48

was in an elevator once with

1:21:50

what's her name ? Fleetwood

1:21:53

Mac .

1:21:54

No , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no , no . Steven X . Steven X

1:21:56

.

1:21:58

I got . I was in an elevator with . Steven X and her handler , and

1:22:00

she was in the elevator the whole time . Like

1:22:02

as soon as I jumped on , she put a coat

1:22:04

over her head and , like zipped it up over

1:22:06

her face , knowing full well that she would

1:22:08

have to leave that elevator to go someplace else . Like

1:22:10

so imagine just somebody walking up , or

1:22:13

is this like ? at Hershey or something , no this was at the

1:22:15

one hotel in Philadelphia

1:22:17

oh cool , oh , it's got

1:22:19

the dome on it . What is it ? God

1:22:21

damn it . I can't remember . It was a hotel

1:22:24

. Then they converted most of it to apartments . It

1:22:26

was the God damn

1:22:28

. It's right by City Hall . I

1:22:30

can't remember , I'm terrible .

1:22:31

So you were the only one on there with her . No

1:22:33

, so there was a group of people .

1:22:35

No , that was . It was my wife and I , and

1:22:37

then Nixon her bike

1:22:40

Her handler yeah .

1:22:42

I mean , I even this is on a much smaller

1:22:44

level , but I'll never forget this , because

1:22:46

they weren't big , they weren't . They were kind

1:22:48

of big at the time and not . I mean , they had a couple of songs

1:22:50

at the Bloodhound gang .

1:22:51

I talked about them .

1:22:53

So they played locally here at

1:22:55

. It was called Galifte's

1:22:57

.

1:22:57

It was the Ritz Carlton , by the way . The Ritz , that

1:22:59

was the hotel . Okay , I got you .

1:23:03

They played a Galifte's across the river , which they had a little like a little

1:23:05

bar and then like a stage and stuff

1:23:07

underneath . I don't know if you remember that . So

1:23:09

they came there , they had a tour bus and stuff . The

1:23:12

roof is on fire . It was like that . There

1:23:14

was their first big song kind of , and I was kind of hitting at the

1:23:16

time . It was on MTV , they had videos and stuff . Well

1:23:18

, they came there to play and it's a small venue . There

1:23:21

was an opening band and all that and

1:23:23

we're there hanging out and he's walking

1:23:25

around like drinking beer and hanging out

1:23:27

and all the guys are the one little . It

1:23:29

was like a real small guy with yellow , with

1:23:32

a blonde dreadlocks . The drummer

1:23:34

, he was there . He was real nice . Jimmy

1:23:36

Pop was walking

1:23:38

around . We were walking into the bathroom and

1:23:40

people were trying to talk to him . He's like I

1:23:42

can't talk . I got it and he was like doing

1:23:44

this thing I got to see . So I'm wondering

1:23:47

, like with like that he probably does that , just so

1:23:49

that he don't have to talk to people , but

1:23:51

it's like that's only like a small

1:23:53

level Like this guy is by no means popular

1:23:56

, but I'll never forget that , thinking yeah , he's

1:23:58

probably just don't want to be bothered with people talking to him .

1:24:00

To be in the elevator with like Stevie next to her , probably

1:24:02

like see , that's the whole thing . You don't want

1:24:04

to be that person .

1:24:04

You can't . I didn't

1:24:06

say a word to her or the handler

1:24:09

or anybody . I just remember getting

1:24:11

on that elevator and as soon as I'm

1:24:13

sure that she and her handler were hoping that

1:24:15

they would go right to the ground floor , which is a

1:24:17

tough ask if she's up in the penthouse . So

1:24:20

I get on immediately

1:24:23

. This jacket is zipped up over

1:24:25

her face , like on the top of her head , which I'm

1:24:27

sure we've all done right . Yeah , it's like

1:24:29

putting up trying to . You're not going to fit your head through that hole

1:24:31

and again . Then she's just

1:24:33

pushed back into a corner and then her handlers

1:24:35

there and between me and would be

1:24:37

her , and then she's escorted off the elevator . Once

1:24:40

we get to the lobby .

1:24:41

You should have started like singing white winged off , yeah

1:24:44

, break out your guitar , start playing

1:24:46

. And your wife should have like jumped

1:24:49

in . I'm sure that would have

1:24:51

annoyed the shit out of her , I am sure .

1:24:53

On the opposite end of that , a very famous person

1:24:55

, Ice Cube , I met and was as nice as can

1:24:57

be signed . Everybody you know we

1:24:59

were down in Philly and he was hanging out the Holiday Inn

1:25:01

in the lobby .

1:25:03

We were going for a concert . Hotel Holiday .

1:25:05

Inn and the Chiefs were playing the Eagles the next

1:25:07

day . It's down by the stadium there

1:25:09

. We were going to the concert the next day . It

1:25:11

was like corn , it was the family values tour and he

1:25:13

was on tour with them . We all walk in

1:25:15

. We're like , oh there's all . These big dudes were like

1:25:18

they must play for the Chiefs because the Chiefs are in

1:25:20

town . Well , they were his bodyguards who owned the Chiefs

1:25:22

and they part in there

1:25:24

. There he is and my buddy's like it's

1:25:26

Ice Cube winner . He was as nice as can be , Took

1:25:29

time with everybody .

1:25:30

They said Kevin Bacon , I saw him play

1:25:32

at that when I showed you guys those pictures . But

1:25:34

they said afterwards like he had a table

1:25:36

and everybody , he sat and talked to everybody and

1:25:39

like everybody waited to go and talk to him and he sat there

1:25:41

for like 10 , 15 minutes talking to people . Like

1:25:43

people were waiting around for like an hour to talk to him . I was like shit

1:25:45

, we left early because we're like we're old .

1:25:48

We wanted to get out of the traffic . That's an opportunity

1:25:50

where we should have been there with like our

1:25:52

stuff . Kevin , can we get five

1:25:54

minutes ?

1:25:54

But yeah , they said he was like cool as can be .

1:25:57

But I could believe that with him . He seems like down

1:25:59

there . So one last

1:26:01

one here . I have the car given to

1:26:03

Daniel , that 1948 yellow

1:26:05

Ford the Lux . He

1:26:08

still owns it to this day and it appeared in the

1:26:10

Copacá TV series .

1:26:13

I didn't know he owned it . I saw it in the series

1:26:15

, but I didn't know that he owned it .

1:26:17

Yeah , it was given to him after completion

1:26:19

of the film . They said yeah , it's his , wow

1:26:22

, yeah .

1:26:23

I wonder , if he was like I , should have chose the other car then if I knew

1:26:25

what I'd have kept it .

1:26:26

Yeah , I wonder , yeah , cause you wonder if he really liked

1:26:28

that one , yeah , yeah .

1:26:30

The car would have been cool . Minus , for my sake

1:26:32

, I don't want a convertible and I

1:26:34

definitely don't want a yellow car .

1:26:36

The color was weird , yeah , yeah .

1:26:39

One other thing I wanted to go back to . At the very end and it kind of when I'm

1:26:41

watching it I'm like this doesn't seem to fit . Did you

1:26:43

guys think anything about the promoter that

1:26:45

was kind of announcing the whole thing ?

1:26:46

He's wearing that blue leisure suit

1:26:48

. Yep With sideburns , yep , yeah .

1:26:50

And it looks like cousin Eddie's outfit

1:26:52

from Correct . I'm

1:26:55

like this guy's the promoter that's running this , because it looked like a huge

1:26:57

, big event . I mean , there was tons of people

1:26:59

there . It seemed like an odd .

1:27:01

It's like the all valley .

1:27:02

Yeah , was they all valley me .

1:27:03

Yes , the whole valley yeah .

1:27:07

Or maybe it's multiple valleys , but he just didn't seem to fit that profile

1:27:09

of like a promoter for that .

1:27:12

Maybe they just like looking like they got somebody they thought was

1:27:14

like a promoter type , like world wrestling , they

1:27:16

might have thought about .

1:27:17

Dude Matt , I can't believe you said that , because I look at that guy

1:27:19

and I think of maybe a younger Mount

1:27:21

to the south Bobby , the brain he knew .

1:27:23

Bobby the brain ? Yeah , yeah , I was thinking that too

1:27:25

. The wrestling ?

1:27:28

The wrestling was doing the casting . And they're like oh , this

1:27:30

guy looks cool . We'll take him over

1:27:33

the top .

1:27:34

Yeah , that was a fun one . You guys got anything else

1:27:36

we missed ?

1:27:37

I got nothing else . I know that for me this was

1:27:39

super fun . This was all

1:27:41

of our childhoods . You know , movie

1:27:43

a must watch . Just a great , great

1:27:46

, feel good movie .

1:27:47

Speaking of that , back to the last thing we do Late

1:27:50

fee , return or burn . So why

1:27:52

don't we start Start with zap this time

1:27:54

Late free , return or burn

1:27:56

.

1:27:56

I you know what I might actually late fee this one

1:27:58

.

1:27:59

Yeah .

1:28:00

I would late fee this one . Now again , this is taking

1:28:03

away the whole idea of being able to stream

1:28:05

and all that bullshit .

1:28:06

Yeah , let's make a rule that , like when we , when we

1:28:08

do these movies , we're talking about it's 1985

1:28:11

.

1:28:11

What we would do at the time of the movie .

1:28:13

Put yourself in those shoes .

1:28:15

I would , I would late fee this .

1:28:16

I agree I'm late feeing it because , if I

1:28:18

you know , I remember the first time I probably

1:28:20

saw it was probably only HBO , but if I did

1:28:23

run it , I know I watched it again and

1:28:25

like really enjoyed it . So same thing

1:28:27

for me . Late fee , matt , what you got .

1:28:29

Um , just yeah , I just remember

1:28:31

watching on HBO . If I had to yeah

1:28:34

, if I rented it I would probably

1:28:36

think about when I had to return it , but I probably try to watch it

1:28:38

as much as I can .

1:28:40

So you're holding it but probably getting it back .

1:28:42

I'm giving it back but , back in time , but

1:28:44

with multiple watches . Yes , Multiple watches of course

1:28:46

.

1:28:47

So we got two late fees on one return . No

1:28:49

burn yet .

1:28:50

No .

1:28:50

So that's good .

1:28:51

Not this one . This is an American classic .

1:28:53

It definitely is . Americans landed

1:28:55

and said show me the eighties . I'd say here check , check

1:28:57

this out .

1:28:58

Yep , did they archive this movie ? Yet I

1:29:00

know they just said uh , uh , home Alone was just

1:29:02

archived in the national treasuries of uh

1:29:05

, whatever , so for like it's , it'll

1:29:07

be encased , so further generations

1:29:09

like 3000 years from now would

1:29:11

be able to watch it .

1:29:13

They'll probably put ODB podcast in there .

1:29:15

Yeah .

1:29:16

If they're smart check your local Smithsonian

1:29:18

.

1:29:19

Yep In the vaults . In the vaults

1:29:21

, that's right .

1:29:22

Deep in the back .

1:29:23

In the back .

1:29:24

In the back of the covenant .

1:29:25

Right , right , all right , fellas

1:29:28

. Well , I guess that's it . If you have anything else , no

1:29:30

, yeah , so

1:29:32

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1:29:43

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