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A fantastic conception story but also because

0:58

they just got so excited about something

1:01

and thing on the moon will hang

1:03

it was it was caught stuff. To

1:16

meet you Debbie. And

1:18

I know. That isn't a professional

1:20

broadcaster speaking as many of you would

1:22

have to activist. Us

1:25

A that is are incredibly long suffering colleague

1:27

case and she's feeling in which I think

1:29

is really good of a know what I'm

1:31

going to allowed to say much else was

1:33

at a coffee runs to get the emails.

1:35

well it was good while it lasted. Feedback

1:38

now but I'm sorry but I didn't realize

1:40

that we were just going to go butcher

1:42

to churches should be at work and really

1:44

oddly people are asking us to work today

1:46

on the side. As A it's critical, extraordinary.

1:49

And we do we will have during

1:51

the course. This additional for ah, an

1:53

extract from James Martin's book. Brilliant. Just

1:56

a short one and I think maybe

1:58

we'll have a bit more. Greek

2:00

Mythology so much discussed personality.

2:02

So with a with the we treat

2:05

you and ourselves and now onto subject

2:07

of Conception with season For said this

2:09

is a delightful email from a Cz.

2:11

Will just leave it at that that

2:13

says Hello China Sea One of my

2:15

mom's favorite stories to tell. Still at

2:17

the age of seventy eight is the

2:19

day Neil Armstrong first walked on the

2:21

moon. She and my Dad were on

2:23

holiday at a boarding house on the

2:25

Isle of Man. They was so overcome

2:28

by most fun and excitement that they

2:30

danced away from the Tv room and

2:32

conceive me. Within the hour I was

2:34

sixty five this week was pregnant. Names

2:36

such as Luna and Apollo were Moldova,

2:38

but in the end they decided to

2:40

name me off to the actor who

2:42

played Miss Diane. And. Crossrail. To

2:46

go with that is that is and

2:48

make something of a joke. Is that

2:50

thing a giant leap for mankind thus

2:53

easy at. Thank you for such great

2:55

focused as kind of you'd say said

2:57

such and such as that that really

2:59

is a lead business. So Luna or

3:01

Apollo. Or. Maybe nail or but

3:04

you ended up as a season and

3:06

off to Miss Diane and Crossroads for

3:08

this deinococcus of she was she has

3:10

very difficult was always a challenge Mr

3:12

hats the shoes as a helpful to

3:14

benny and so seat she sort of.

3:17

She was one of those ladies with

3:19

the house ago. now he gonna have

3:21

to remind me with Miss Cyan blonde

3:23

hair blond has always in a silvery

3:25

blonde blaring as a babe. No oh

3:27

no not this is Barbara. Was

3:30

very saying this famous a manager of

3:32

the process by till they're not the

3:34

owner other than says his leg i

3:37

think cc that's a fantastic conception story

3:39

but also because they discuss how excited

3:41

about something something on the moon. Was

3:44

it was on. It was still.

3:47

clearly but it it really was and

3:50

of i don't know if anyone else

3:52

knows they were conceived in a boarding

3:54

house on the isle of man bus

3:56

to contact especially if you think you

3:58

meant assistants and of I've been to

4:00

the Isle of Man, have you been to the Isle of Man? No. Have

4:03

you been done? No, I won't say that. But I

4:05

went to our girl guide camp,

4:07

was once up on the Isle of Man. And

4:11

by God, I mean the weather was challenging that

4:13

week, as it always seemed to be challenging whenever

4:15

we went on guide camp. But

4:17

that was the only location upon

4:19

which, do you say that if

4:21

it's an aisle? An aisle?

4:23

That I smoked. I

4:25

had half a cigarette on the Isle of Man.

4:28

Good song. No, never to be repeated experience. I

4:30

thought it was absolutely

4:32

disgusting. Well, I

4:34

think everybody thinks that the

4:37

first cigarette they have is absolutely disgusting.

4:39

That's what's so weird about it, that

4:41

you then kind of make

4:43

yourself carry on. I think

4:45

I retched the first cigarette. I did retry, because

4:47

I hate being sick and feeling sick, but I

4:49

just didn't want to ever go back there. But

4:52

we would love your conception stories because

4:54

I'm not sure it's going to be

4:56

easy to beat Susie. It's quite a

4:58

big start, if you think you can.

5:01

I absolutely love, as she

5:04

said, that giant leap from

5:07

the possibility of being called Luna to

5:10

the more earthly Susan,

5:12

which is, of course, my middle name. Susie,

5:16

lovely. Thank you very much for that. We've

5:18

not got a huge amount of time in this

5:20

podcast, have we, because we have got such a

5:23

busy day. So do

5:25

you want to head straight? Have you got expelling

5:27

male sporty fluid? No, but I do want

5:30

to hear that. Do you want to read it out? Because I've got

5:32

a couple of lovely ones here that I've picked. OK.

5:35

So this one comes from Alice, who says,

5:37

listening to you discussing sporty spitting on Monday's

5:39

podcast as I run along the Lee River

5:41

this morning. Coming towards me, a

5:43

male runner blowing his nose with no tissue.

5:47

This means covering one nostril at a time and pushing

5:49

and blowing the contents of the other nostril as far

5:51

as it will go on the ground. The

5:53

ground I was about to run on.

5:55

I pointedly ran around the offending bogey,

5:57

touched my nose, waggled my finger and

5:59

shouted shouted growth at him. Marion

6:02

Keyes would have been proud. But I'm in

6:04

my fifties and therefore invisible to him. Half

6:07

a kilometer later, I encountered a man happily sitting on

6:09

a bench gazing at the river with a bottle of

6:11

beer and some strawberries, far less offensive. But it was

6:13

9.30 a.m. I

6:15

decided not to wag my finger at him. I

6:18

think these are wise choices, Alice, that

6:20

you've made. And we would be completely

6:22

behind you. We would have been the

6:24

waggy finger too, because that is revolting.

6:27

Revolting. Yes, I

6:29

just don't get that. Hold

6:31

one nostril, expel from the other. It's

6:33

utterly. And just because you're going

6:36

for a run with all your lycra and all

6:38

that kind of stuff, it doesn't mean that you

6:40

cannot carry a handkerchief or tissue. Thank

6:42

you. And now onto the section

6:44

of the podcast we like to call, Women

6:46

Aren't Always Perfect Either. It's from Anonymous. Please

6:49

keep this anonymous, says our correspondent. Don't worry,

6:52

we just have. I got married in 1996 when

6:54

mums didn't traditionally give speeches at

6:56

ceremonies. I had a pretty traditional

6:59

affair with my parents inviting lots

7:01

of people because they are, quote,

7:03

family, and lots of people in

7:05

fact my husband and I didn't even know. But

7:07

that wasn't the issue. Picture this, all the usual

7:09

suspects are sitting at the top table, and

7:12

it came to speech time out of the blue.

7:14

My mum said she was going to give a

7:16

speech. She stood up confidently and

7:18

said, well, what can I say about Anonymous?

7:22

After a short pause, she said, nothing.

7:26

And then she went on to regale

7:28

lots of fun stories of my husband.

7:32

Outrageous. On my most special day,

7:35

it made me feel like shit, and

7:37

it took all my strength not to

7:39

burst into tears. Whoa, I'm so sorry about

7:41

that. I hear what you say about involving

7:43

parents in weddings, but sometimes parents

7:46

are not welcome. Being a dutiful

7:48

daughter certainly backfired on me. Yeah.

7:51

Oh, wow, thoughts and prayers there. Yeah,

7:53

that was very unkind. Yeah. I

7:57

think in the moment, well, I know that.

8:00

the moment so many parents,

8:02

I mean you know

8:04

it's a trope isn't it that the best man

8:06

gets the tone wrong and whatever

8:09

but I have been to a fair few

8:11

weddings where the parents, you know

8:13

the father of the bride has got it wrong too. Yeah.

8:16

Well and as our correspondent illustrates there, women

8:19

can sometimes stand up and talk and crap

8:21

and actually be very hurtful. Yeah. So

8:24

I don't think you can generalise. Let's

8:26

not do that. I mean normally I do obviously.

8:28

Let's try not to just because it's

8:31

Thursday. Right,

8:33

Julia has been back in touch.

8:35

Julia makes the mugs and her

8:37

company is called Dialectable. We've definitely,

8:40

definitely, we'll give that a mention

8:42

in fact we just have. And this

8:44

one is called Carry On Films. Now we've had

8:46

quite a few this week actually haven't we about

8:48

ages and the difference in our

8:50

ages and you're always very, very, very keen

8:52

to point out how much younger I am

8:55

than you. But Alison thinks that

8:57

maybe you're wrong to do that Jane. I felt

8:59

compelled to get in touch over Jane's comment today

9:01

that she was too young to remember the Carry

9:03

On films. What was she doing living under a

9:05

rock? I was 54 on Monday

9:07

at a very similar age and Carry On

9:09

Films are a big part of my 70s

9:11

childhood. The lewd jokes and toilet humor seem

9:14

awful now but I love them all. Carry

9:16

On Camping being a particular favourite. My dear

9:19

old late dad loved them too and did

9:21

a cracking said Jane's impression. Maybe

9:23

Jane can buy her a box set for her

9:25

birthday, a definite gap in Fie's cultural heritage. Well

9:27

I mean I do know the Carry On films

9:29

but it's a funny thing isn't

9:32

it because I think sometimes you do think that

9:34

I'm a child. Well comparison. Sometimes

9:38

I think you might have had more rarefied tastes

9:40

growing up. No it's not that because sometimes we've

9:42

talked about the moon landings and you'll always say

9:44

of course Fie wasn't even born then and I was.

9:47

But you didn't even remember it. No. No.

9:50

But then I'm not sure. I actually do either.

9:53

I've got, I think I do anyway. It's

9:56

all very, very confusing. Oh talking of the

9:58

future. The futuristic things. I did. minority

10:00

report last night. Oh how was

10:02

that? Am I tell

10:05

you what, get down there if you can, not

10:07

just because it's an hour and a half of genuine entertainment

10:09

with no interval, but what they're

10:11

able to do on stage these days with

10:14

the technical side of it, it's

10:17

mind blowing. Like what? Well, just the,

10:20

I'm not very good at explaining it, but

10:22

obviously it's set in 2050, there's a

10:25

lot of computer imagery on screen,

10:28

there's like a

10:30

voice activated BOP person who then

10:32

becomes human, a character called David.

10:35

It's just, I just do not

10:37

know how it was possible. And

10:39

I was sitting there just thinking, well, how

10:41

have they done that? The theatre is just

10:47

way ahead of how it used to be 30

10:49

or 40 years ago. That's it's

10:51

been to be, of course. But anyway, if

10:53

you have seen the film or you know

10:55

that the Philip K Dick short story, I

10:57

do urge you to go and have a

10:59

look. Not, I mean, it's like watching a

11:02

film on stage, really well done,

11:04

incredibly clever. I always think one of the

11:06

oddest things about imagining the future is that

11:08

you have to imagine the fashions of 2050.

11:10

Now bearing in mind, it's, I

11:13

mean, we, with a fair wind, we could both still be

11:15

going in 2050, might even still be doing

11:18

our fair. I've got the impression

11:20

that Kate may have checked out. But anyway, but

11:23

when you actually think back, so that's 26 years

11:25

ahead and 26 years ago was 1998. So did

11:27

the clothes

11:32

of 1998, they really

11:34

differ from the clothes people are wearing now? No, not

11:36

really. So what they've imagined for 2050 is

11:38

that a lot of people are going to be the

11:41

police force, such as swaggering around

11:43

in cloaks with big belts, which

11:45

I suppose is possible. The

11:48

character of the home secretary is wearing

11:50

a Nehru jacket. Oh, well, I mean, those

11:52

come and go, don't they? So

11:55

they might be making a comeback. They might be on

11:57

the back in journey. Yeah. And then

11:59

the other characters. just wearing sort of short

12:01

trousers with kind of combat boots which

12:04

suggested that we were living through troubled

12:06

times in 2050 but yeah that's sensible

12:08

footwear. Because didn't you always find it

12:11

a bit strange in any of the

12:13

kind of Star Trek-y type things or

12:15

whatever that everybody had unrecognizable outfits. This

12:18

is what intrigues me. Yeah they're always

12:20

in kind of nylon all-in-ones or those

12:22

you know those classic tunics. I mean

12:24

the tubby were not well served by

12:27

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12:29

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15:14

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15:16

am. A royal correspondent. And aristocratic correspondent. So

15:19

Vogue Williams has a new podcast out,

15:21

which is looking at relationships in families.

15:23

It's called The Apple and the Tree.

15:25

It's a very clever concept. And I

15:27

asked her to explain a bit more

15:29

about it. It is an adult child

15:32

having a conversation with their parents. And it's

15:34

a really deep conversation that you would never

15:36

really consider having. I would struggle to have

15:39

it with my own mother. But

15:41

we recorded a lot of them at home.

15:44

So you really feel like you're just listening

15:46

in on this really deep and meaningful conversation.

15:48

And they all are. And it

15:50

was just kind of fascinating that people opened

15:52

up so much And they kind of

15:54

dealt with things that they were really struggling with in

15:57

their family. And When you hear about it, and you

15:59

hear it so much, The so the zebra going

16:01

to use your actions of it's like it's

16:03

like when you think is taken on somebody

16:05

else has problems you think actual take my

16:07

back like people go to so many hard

16:10

times but some of armies the stories i

16:12

just so of listing and on what they've

16:14

gone found on headed for my to the

16:16

side as as really amazing so. So

16:18

what kinds of things are you

16:21

covering? Business. Expect. To so

16:23

the first episode. As with some. Unlocked on as

16:25

the darkness on on some came a to

16:27

ask am on. He's been of an Asian

16:29

community so he was really really worried that

16:32

he would be frowned upon that his dad

16:34

wouldn't be up to accept as and it's

16:36

all about his coming out stories a lot

16:38

about as pass on assists. Really interesting to

16:41

hear it on. His dad is so amazing

16:43

like just exactly what he was one like

16:45

I want I was on school system a

16:47

laid back as. He was just so

16:50

amazing about us and there's some.

16:52

Stories are that are quite hard to listen

16:54

to what I see when he when he

16:56

here the whole conversation it's quite of listing

16:58

anything that the found the so amazing and.

17:01

He got soon. Alex on Alex was diagnosed

17:03

with motor neurone disease and he was thirty

17:05

and he's thirty three now and he's in

17:08

a wheelchair and them and just he wanted

17:10

to talk about how his disease has affected

17:12

their families and he also want to talk

17:14

about how when he came as as him

17:16

on his brother came out as gay to

17:18

their parents so are they gonna double a

17:20

double whammy that they put em. His mom

17:23

was incredible as well because. I

17:25

mean as a mother myself having to go

17:28

to watch your child skill he just wants

17:30

to take it off them and it was

17:32

just really size and he's so young and

17:34

even coming in and shouting to me after

17:37

they record the part he was just just

17:39

like really positive and it was so nice

17:41

to see him the able to have such

17:43

a great life when he's a is it

17:46

was happening to him and he just he

17:48

just was. His cell have been so lovely

17:50

and their relationship was so nice and as

17:53

soon as I sat down with them you

17:55

can. Just imagine having a really long

17:57

conversation with them. How? Do you make sure

17:59

that people. Going to overstep the

18:01

mark because some of the stuff

18:03

that that people are talking about

18:05

is very it's very deep you

18:08

can understand as in every sammy

18:10

the replaces sometimes we should. I

18:12

should see. difficult to go to

18:14

without the professional around and what's

18:16

amazing about the conversation says they

18:19

are very well balance between both

18:21

participants sites. What's happened this food?

18:23

The microphone goes on to make

18:25

sure it's okay. To

18:28

be also you answer is like.

18:30

Recording any. Podcast economy hostile at

18:32

a conversation row and see how it goes

18:34

and see where they where they get to

18:36

with his oversee those editing that can be

18:38

done within podcasts and but I think that

18:40

it's really important to just let it be

18:42

a free zone conversation cause us of they

18:44

are really wanted and you know yourself like

18:46

if I was sitting at my mom's I'd

18:48

know where not to really go d to

18:50

put like he can still get your point

18:52

across any conceal discuss the topic that you

18:54

want to talk about sports upon talk he

18:56

made some of those topics a a brought

18:58

other things in for them so it's and

19:00

they're all. Really different and really amazing And

19:02

I think families are just incredible him

19:04

and parents and protect their the way

19:07

they are with their kids. I only

19:09

knew how much my mom does me

19:11

when I have my first sleep well.

19:13

E S exists a different setting up.

19:15

A bit more about your mum says

19:17

she sounds amazing se as he sounds

19:20

herself as a single parent didn't see

19:22

yes at while she still had a

19:24

job on the Transatlantic Airlines as soon

19:26

as she doesn't mean how how did

19:28

that even work? We always. Hard and

19:30

au pair growing or am do we still

19:32

now and my mom used to wear tons

19:34

of antique sites and as you would come

19:36

home and stuff to work in restaurants but.

19:38

Weirdly, Enough I don't remember her not being

19:41

there. So we would be in school

19:43

all during the week so he wouldn't really see

19:45

or than any way. But I do remember my

19:47

mom being around quite a loss and back and

19:49

by family didn't have very much money. I don't

19:51

think my dad was very helpful to my mom

19:53

so she classes he was on her own. She

19:55

had three kids he needed to support them and

19:58

she did that. Still an amazing job! The. It

20:00

just worked really really hard. I don't a highly

20:02

she got her but she was just incredible and

20:04

that's why I do. I do look of to

20:06

her for that because I've got three kids and

20:08

I know how difficult that is. But to add

20:10

in like being on your own and having to

20:13

to make sure everything is running smoothly that even

20:15

know when he said look ask them m must

20:17

have been really really difficult. The. Size of you

20:19

have that loves the moment with your

20:21

own mom. Why he's actually said see

20:23

her I really gets it now and

20:25

is possibly. A sorry that assists attendance and

20:28

seen a Just Switch weekends has on say

20:30

my next a son not other. I have

20:32

an amazing relationship with my mom I I'm

20:34

really test all my family and my mom.

20:36

My feet are nearly every day and party

20:39

couple of times a day and I love

20:41

get to spend time with her so she

20:43

knows how much I appreciate Anaheim. What's odd

20:45

about means to me. As

20:47

that stuff but the teenagers I to you

20:50

as your sister would known as the monsters

20:52

the esses at your stat saw necessity the

20:54

his come your life and then ready at

20:56

the very support is set of insists can

20:59

you can use less that out for us

21:01

in a little bit of these her what

21:03

was so months to us about you will

21:06

behave more kinds of say Another thing. I.

21:08

Could ever have any on As much as he

21:10

loves my mother books and sixty sixty game in

21:12

this is of where they had my brother Alexander

21:14

together and he came in having no kids and

21:17

took on the three of us on we were

21:19

nightmares I remember once he tried to come in

21:21

on him and he was done in like bond

21:23

my sister ninety time and you think I'm going

21:25

to really to the all this and so he

21:28

came into the room and the to vote for

21:30

it is jumping from bad bad because he had

21:32

to a bad and screaming and he just couldn't

21:34

understand what was going on so he never read

21:37

the Harvests put have. Succeeded always

21:39

try Amir teenagers we were nightmares

21:41

basically my sister I didn't cause

21:43

for every single car for everything

21:45

I got away with this rice

21:47

without ceasing that seats as he

21:49

for other. Assess

21:51

Absinthe trying to get away

21:54

with ssssss. A big fan of

21:56

Alice and the it's A get Said

21:58

bracing. Pointed in this area. Your

22:00

Mama she said rights any to go somewhere else

22:02

while when you are what seventeen When I was

22:04

seventeen yeah I got kicked says am A wasn't

22:06

as romantic as that because obviously she didn't just

22:09

kicked me I it's in our see as she

22:11

told me to down live or die because I

22:13

was kind of abusing the system so I was.

22:15

She would say that you can't go to the

22:17

Sas the my be like. Okay, I'm going to

22:20

Dogs to seek. And offered goes fast on

22:22

seed no I don't us but I've like know didn't

22:24

I didn't see, couldn't have the exact proof and then

22:26

I think after a while she was like right. Into

22:29

I do not so much aussie go to live with

22:31

him on them. On. Yes that

22:33

was that was eye opening like my dad is

22:35

on my best friends but he i wouldn't say

22:37

he was able to look after we the way

22:39

my mother did so of I went back eventually

22:41

and. Are saying all of this a

22:43

in it was a beautiful smile on

22:45

your face. The actually then you'll seventeen

22:48

and was a big sister owns an

22:50

apparent. Finally goes know is that com

22:52

the as he quite tough. Was

22:54

it was it quite tough I think

22:56

when it first happened it was a

22:59

little bit upsetting but telling hundred just

23:01

a oh the hard like. I dunno

23:03

the freedom. My dad was grace for like

23:05

he would let me go and these of that I

23:07

wouldn't be allowed to go in the warmer climate. My

23:10

window and gun of the likes of of throw the

23:12

Matter is a nice might invite my friend over to

23:14

say that we'd like sneak out the window. I assume

23:16

everybody did this book maybe. It's

23:19

ah so after a while the novelty kind

23:21

of were all of a being able to

23:23

do whatever you want to do. I wouldn't

23:25

say I was doing amazingly in school and

23:27

economists my mom like to my washing and

23:29

sulfide.and like I miss my my siblings and

23:31

so so was it was dancing nice to

23:33

go home. And say sound is that.

23:36

Rebellious. Teenager turned into.

23:38

A woman with not one but

23:40

two degrees from university and I

23:43

would say. As quite a

23:45

decent and Halsey amounts of ambition

23:47

and kind of work ethic as

23:49

Seattle you have club busy person

23:52

on his I'd I definitely am

23:54

busy at I'd say. I honestly

23:56

would put all that and to accept as meal

23:58

he was a using he have a he I

24:01

said that his. Suitable

24:04

kind of. He's still here with us. a

24:06

set. Foot as Neal is T

24:08

V a school teacher on he's from

24:11

Don't The. So I saw everyone into

24:13

undies release for equal. I kind of associate

24:15

Scottish people because of all my Scottish family

24:17

like they're all very strict and as if

24:19

the if the skies person tells you to

24:21

do something the was so he was very

24:24

strict the whole time and he gonna wanted

24:26

me to get a degree I had tried

24:28

to do architecture but i didn't get the

24:30

the course and because I was pretending to

24:32

so the instead of studying so he got

24:34

me into different course in aberdeen and i

24:36

went to play did as I loved it

24:39

and then i did another degree. And

24:41

in add. Sylvan. And then the

24:43

building industry collapse which was them was rented in

24:45

have to work in us so I could go

24:47

try do what i wanted to do am and

24:50

asked on a how i got to the career

24:52

that I'm doing that right I had no idea

24:54

that was an upside to the clap for the

24:56

building industry was examined the has some I'm possibly

24:58

the only ones that are whole world. Is

25:02

it? well as I was halfway to Qatar and that

25:04

are as I got. See now has. Something. You

25:06

definitely say you're one of those people

25:08

as he sliced just seems amazing. In

25:10

a you are plaza you're talented. You'll

25:12

be so you have three children are

25:14

in a little. I'm taking you home

25:16

as a suspect a sudden as the

25:18

your life seems to really really wet

25:20

towels and then in a we also

25:22

know about either either d struggle with

25:24

anxiety and she's talked about that club

25:26

that in the past see us always

25:29

think it's just really helpful for somebody

25:31

like yourself to explain what that means

25:33

how you deal with it's only it's

25:35

I wrong. To assume that everybody else

25:37

is nice is absolutely grand and fine.

25:39

I think about. Say as well with the

25:42

podcast it's it's amazing to listen said everyone else

25:44

is perspective on life and what they're going for

25:46

and and and things that we all go through

25:48

ourselves. Put em with me. I think you look at someone's eyes

25:50

and you think is. Perfect But no one's

25:52

life is absolutely perfect. Everybody has

25:54

their ups and then everybody has

25:57

their struggles. Am I'm deathly struggle

25:59

with anxiety? Am I

26:01

think that we live in such a fast

26:03

say Swirls? Everything is quite stressful. I've got

26:05

three kids at home. Am I? Am I

26:07

the full time job so that can sometimes

26:09

see like to get on top of each

26:11

Am. So it's I do. I,

26:13

yeah, I try to. This isn't lazy

26:15

conceal. Your own anxiety me have to kind

26:18

of find your own part of your insistence

26:20

on. I worked a lot trying to figure

26:22

it. ice am I think for me that's

26:24

why I love exercise so much. A think

26:26

it helps. I know if I don't drink

26:28

that's gonna completely reduce my anxieties. but I

26:30

also go on and off medication sometimes as

26:32

to to try to help with this on.

26:34

I do find that really helpful. On

26:36

and therapy. Is always good. So

26:38

five one put it, the other one is

26:41

just throw your problems with someone else, isn't

26:43

get assistance. Yeah, yes, and county balance

26:45

that thing as being in the public

26:47

eye and doing stuff with people expect

26:49

you to talk about your private life.

26:52

mini have a a podcast with your

26:54

husband's i'm the we Don't Get here

26:56

Absolutely everything that you're putting your personal

26:58

life you making it available in the

27:01

sense on easier So where's how do

27:03

you draw that line was that kind

27:05

of balance? I think it's just a

27:07

natural thing. To do to draw a line

27:09

like thus am we give a lot in the

27:11

podcast and I've got a punk ass of my

27:14

best and to on as well where we probably

27:16

give even more his m put a with podcast

27:18

the i think you're either going into you're going

27:20

to go into it like with bases or there's

27:22

no point if you're tell when he has to

27:24

do what your your son a to do with

27:26

has to be reading three conversations the same with

27:29

the Atlanta treat all has discussed the winning to

27:31

be open on Am on us is natural to

27:33

think that and things that you wouldn't share like

27:35

is even for me like if I share the

27:37

kids are my Instagram. Some that that I could

27:39

never put them up throwing a tantrum, were

27:41

or like doing something that they could possibly

27:44

feel embarrassed about and years to come because

27:46

he do us to consider other people on

27:48

even on the part when I'm talking about

27:50

family members of of a hack see I

27:52

have to consider them a lot more to

27:54

have my sister him insisted. He says about

27:56

me on the podcast on Excel an

27:58

Sti things that we. just

28:00

don't really rate privacy

28:03

anymore. Yes, actually there

28:05

is a bit in all of us

28:07

that really yearns for it. It can

28:09

be your safest place, can't it? When

28:12

it's really just you, nobody else is

28:14

watching you, criticizing you, nothing to perform

28:16

or give anything. So it's

28:18

quite, I find that quite a odd circle

28:21

to square at the moment. I

28:24

find for me, I'm a really, really

28:26

open person anyway. And what I need to

28:28

keep private, I do keep private and certainly

28:30

there's times when you just think,

28:32

God, I wish that had of been

28:34

just left alone and it didn't get out there

28:37

and things like that. But mainly, honestly, I'm

28:39

just quite an open person and it doesn't

28:42

really bother me too much. Like even my

28:44

husband and I did a show together years

28:46

and years ago. And even with

28:48

that, you kind of just, you still hold back

28:50

things that you wanna hold back. But

28:53

God, I'd never do that again. Now

28:56

your husband's just made a big announcement certainly

28:59

today that he's going to run, what is it,

29:01

30 marathons. But he's laughed his mind, yeah. Very

29:03

much so. You can say that's your

29:05

narrative. He's gonna run 30 marathons in 30 days on

29:07

sand. Yeah.

29:10

Okay. 45 degrees.

29:12

Okay, why? He's

29:15

doing it for charity, first of

29:17

all. He's doing it for Global's Make Some

29:19

Noise charity, which is, it looks after so

29:21

many different charities all over England and the

29:23

UK. And he wanted to

29:25

do it for that reason. And it's also gonna

29:28

be a world record. I'm like, I don't, he

29:30

just really enjoys it. He said to me the

29:32

other day, he was like, I can have you

29:34

running a marathon by the end of the year.

29:37

And I was like, well, I just don't wanna

29:39

do it. I never, I don't

29:41

think I'd feel that sense of achievement if I

29:43

did it, because I just, I don't want

29:45

it. I don't think I'd be able to do it. I

29:48

don't think I'd enjoy the training so much,

29:50

but he loves this and he loves pushing

29:52

himself. And he's really resilient. He's done races

29:54

like that, but he's never done anything like

29:56

that before. So we don't actually know if

29:59

he's gonna complete. He's trying his very best

30:01

obviously, but it's a really tough race. It's 30

30:03

marathons 30 days in 45 degrees. It's extraordinary I

30:08

mean, I just don't really know how the human

30:10

body Repairs itself every

30:12

night to go and you know

30:14

do something again. I have no idea

30:16

and the fact that it's on side Why did he

30:18

have to choose to stand for himself? And

30:21

but he's really he's been training really really

30:23

hard and he's really looking forward to it

30:26

And I hope he makes tons and tons of money

30:28

for us, but I better him

30:30

than me Yeah, do you quite like it when he

30:32

goes away for a while? No,

30:34

I Would

30:37

say you know I love it for a

30:39

little bit But our kids are so small

30:41

that I'm like oh you're just going away

30:43

for What's gonna end up being about

30:45

40 days? And so I have to do 40

30:48

days of bath time and bed time and getting

30:50

up at half six every morning before there We

30:52

know lions for 40 days, but um No,

30:55

we'll miss them, but the first week would

30:57

be nice Vogue

31:00

Williams and you can listen to her

31:02

latest podcast whatever you get your podcast

31:04

from That's such a modern

31:06

phrase isn't it imagine if you'd said that

31:09

to your grandmother? 60

31:11

years ago just wouldn't know actually it

31:13

especially if you use the term platform My

31:16

mom's still very confused by where this platform is

31:18

yeah Is

31:22

there a podcast shop? Where

31:24

you can buy up and know there isn't

31:27

a podcast ease no, I'd like a big

31:29

slab of your freshest podcast Mr.

31:32

Shotkeeper Okay,

31:34

now we have over the last

31:36

couple of weeks been enjoying mail

31:39

as it happens Showbiz

31:41

pretty much very much autobiographies.

31:44

We've had titillating

31:46

tit bits from David

31:49

Niven David Niven and who

31:51

else Simon Bates? I'm radio

31:54

one legend Simon base, but today we can

31:56

bring you just a little nugget from

31:59

James Martin's wonderful work driven cooking

32:01

in the fast lane. Well, I

32:03

mean, I think buckle up everybody

32:06

because this bit is particularly fast.

32:11

It's a real insight into what some people

32:13

think is worth including in their life story.

32:16

Now we join James as he's purchased a

32:18

Maserati. It could have happened to any of

32:20

us, couldn't it? Sadly,

32:23

he's having some trouble with the paperwork. Four

32:27

weeks on he writes still no

32:29

v5 document. Five weeks

32:31

later still no sign of it. I pulled

32:34

the DVLA in Swansea and

32:37

it was told it was being

32:39

processed and they were very busy. How

32:45

long did he have to wait? I

32:48

didn't finish the paragraph yet. The weekend

32:50

to that? Nothing. Eventually

32:55

the v5. Right,

33:01

there we are. That's it. But

33:04

it's just incredible. Oh

33:07

gosh, what a climax. You

33:10

never forget your v5 arriving, do you?

33:14

By the way when it comes you must put it

33:16

somewhere safe. Where do you put

33:18

yours? I've got it's in a special folder.

33:21

Is it marked safe things?

33:23

Yes, Mr. Burglar. Things to

33:25

keep. Things worth it. Oh, god,

33:27

you're right. I need to go home and sort

33:29

it all out. Anyway, if you have any of

33:32

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33:34

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33:39

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33:44

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33:52

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33:57

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34:00

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34:09

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34:50

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