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Welcome to the Oddity Shop , where

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the bizarre is always on sale

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. Hey

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everybody , welcome back to the Oddity Shop . This is the podcast where we tell you

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weird , creepy , strange , odd , paranormal

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stories from around the world . I'm

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one of your curators of the shop

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, Zach , sitting here with the other lovely , fantastical

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curator , Kara . How the

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hell are you ?

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I'm doing fabulous . How

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are you ?

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I'm amazing , which I feel like

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you know what we're going to take a second , because the last time

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both of us started one of these podcasts where we're both

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feeling fabulous and amazing has been a minute this is true

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so . This is true . We manifested

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this .

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Yeah , well , I did manifest some other things for us , and so we've got some cool

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stuff in the works . I'm excited because my manifesting worked crazily um

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.

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I have not even told you in

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detail about conversations yeah

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, you've got something else going on .

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This is we've got .

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We've got some stuff , we've got shit happening

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.

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Guys get ready um , how

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was your day ? Oh well , it was

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my last day at the location

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that I work at currently , so they threw me

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a party , which was absolutely , absolutely

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insane .

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They threw me a funeral I was gonna say would you

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call it a party or a funeral ?

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they threw me a funeral because they're upset that

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I'm leaving . So what

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were the decorations ?

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I think it said um the cake said

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you're dead to me , right , you're dead . To said you're dead to me . You're

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dead to us . Yep , you're dead to us .

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And it was all black . And

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then they got me this huge bouquet of flowers and they had all the flowers

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that they could spray paint . They had them spray painted black

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because I love the color black . Then

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the banner said who said you could leave

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us ? Then they

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made what are those things called , Like

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the funeral card that you get .

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Oh , like the memorial card , thank you .

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They made . I don't know if I sent that

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to you .

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No , that's amazing .

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They made a memorial card with my face on

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it and it says like , in

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loving memory of when she worked here , was employed here , have a picture

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on it . And then the back , Anthony , shout out aunt , he just searched

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saddest One Tree Hill quotes

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, because he just knows I'm obsessed with One Tree Hill . And

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then he found one and then slapped it on

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there and it was like it kind of fit , Like .

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I know you had reasons , like

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legitimate reasons , for having to leave that location

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, which aren't drama related or anything and I'm so

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happy that you're getting the change

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you need . But I know leaving that crew is

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hard .

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I am so sad . I was like , oh my gosh

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, try not to cry when I walked in right away , because

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I'm like , what in the hell ? They'd like balloons

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, black balloons . And I'm like , oh

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my God , it was so

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great , so that was my day . So

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you were napping at 8 pm

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, so what the hell was your day

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.

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Everything today . So I got

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up early and I actually got some of my chores

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done and stuff and

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then I've had a few conversations today that I'm going to tell you off of recording so we can keep

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it a surprise . That really got me jazzed . And

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then me and Julia went to the farmer's market and

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there was all these little things happening .

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Oh , you went to a book thing or something , right what ?

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did you ? Yeah , so we went from the farmer's

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market to a pottery shop that

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was having their one-year anniversary

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so they had like free treats and stuff . Then

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the meat market down the street was having customer appreciation

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day so there was like raffles and they had free

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sandwiches . Oh my God . It was

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it's National Indie Author

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Day . So a bookstore by

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us was having like a little party . We went and got

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a glass of wine . And

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we met the two cutest dogs . One

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was a little pit bull with an underbite and

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one was this old lady . And the owner

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was like oh , she's looking at you . I'm like

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what .

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The old lady was the owner or the dog

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?

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No , the old lady dog and she's like she

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loves men she's

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going to be all of and this dog just sat with me the whole time

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it was .

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She loves men . That's so funny .

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Then we , where did we go from there ? We went to a little

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apothecary . We rented some

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scooters , we went and got dinner at our

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favorite gay bar , which just has the best french

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fries in the world , and then I

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took a nap . And

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now here I am . It was like it was the first like really nice weekend day where I've had

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nothing going on . So I just like I

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forgot how much I love my neighborhood . There's always

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so many little things going on .

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Sorry , I had to readjust my life

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over here so I wasn't responding to you , but I was

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listening . Yeah , you were napping at 8 pm . I was like

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what happened today ?

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Everything . Oh , I went to the crystal

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store at one point .

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How much stuff did you buy today ?

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Not a whole lot actually .

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I bought a couple things for my face at the apothecary

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.

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Yeah , and I found $60 in my wallet

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, so I felt like because I didn't remember

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that money was in there , like it didn't feel like

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real money .

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Yeah , it's like girl math . Oh

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we also got ice cream . Oh my god damn . You

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and julia just like gallivanted

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the town all day . What time did you leave your house

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?

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um one and then we kept coming like

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in and out and got home at seven wow , you did

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a lot I've been going I . It

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was a great day and I needed this because

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, good , I'm glad life's been

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fun okay

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, well yeah , we're six minutes in . Let's

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get this going item would

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you curse ?

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if you could like , if you had control

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of an item , to be a cursed item ?

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that's a good one . Um

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, I will find a really

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, really interesting book , like one that if

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you saw the cover of it , you wouldn't be able to not

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like not open the page I like that idea

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because books can easily be

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passed around right like in , like thrift

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stores or sales , like whatever , so you could curse so

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many people along the way . See

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, it's kind of a good one . If that's

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like your goal , you could leave it like in

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the line of somebody , like

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it would be , like you wouldn't just leave

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it around anywhere , but you could leave it for the victim

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you wanted . I sound terrible . All right , go

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on . Well . I mean , I asked a crazy question Fair

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Okie dokie Enough .

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We're heading to Strumpshaw

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. This is a complete side note , but did you

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know that Selena Gomez has an okie dokie jar ?

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What did you even just say to me ?

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I have no idea what that means .

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Because I just said .

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I said okie dokie and then I was like I thought about it like a , like a swear jar , yeah . So she apparently

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says she's like a cooking show and stuff , and apparently she

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says okie dokie a lot and so she

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has a jar that she has to put like a dollar and

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every time she says it because she thinks it's lame

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, it's like a lame word and or like saying

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and I think it's so cute , she's so sorry

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, that's a complete side note , but selena Gomez

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is so freaking cute . Okie dokie

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, okay , okay . So Stromschad

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.

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Where is that ? Is that Germany ?

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It is a village in English County

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of Norfolk . Oh , okay

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, so Norfolk , folk

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, falk ? How do you say it ? Norfolk , right

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, norfolk , norfolk

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, right , norfolk , norfolk , whatever you say , norfolk . See , the more I practice it or the more

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you say it , it sounds messed up . So I can say it correctly , but I've messed myself

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up . Anyway , it's east of England , if anyone wants

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to know . Perfect , okay , so in

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2011 , the

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population was 634

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in 261 households

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, so that's , if you break it down , it's like only two

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people per household .

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So it's OK , so not like a family place . Very

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, very small village .

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Yes , Granted , that wasn't 2011 , but

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still OK . As I was like doing the research

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for this , I keep picturing Belle singing

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through the village on her way to the library . Oh

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, look at that in the book . We talked about books . You

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know what I'm talking about . I haven't seen beauty and the beast since it's like the main scene .

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She does have a book , doesn't she ?

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yeah , she's returning the book to go to the library . She's singing through the village , okay , um , so I picture that

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only we're going to the pub . Perfect , so the pub

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is an essential part to any

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small town . Hello actually right

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, so we're moving from beauty and the beast to Cheers

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. Rip Christy Alley oh

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, I forgot she died . I

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think her parents just died in a car accident or something

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. Oh God .

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Anyway , anyway , rip

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Christy Alley's parents . Well

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, that sounds harsh . I mean , it's very sad that they

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died in a car accident , but it's just out of

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nowhere Okay .

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I could totally be wrong on that too , so don't quote

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me on that , but I'm pretty sure I saw something about

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that .

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Oh , that's the quote of the episode . Okay , Go

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on .

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Let's get into this the goat was

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said to have a usual

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mix of madness , fun and

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boisterous behavior one would

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expect from the place where plowmen

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, reed cutters and farm lads would

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spend many an evening quaffing

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the locally brewed ale and cider . And

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if you're like me , I didn't know what quaffing was . So

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it's to drink something , especially

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alcohol . Did you know that ?

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No , I didn't . I kind of put it together with context

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, but my context was wrong so like oh

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, I just thought it meant like having a

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good time , like a conversation or whatever .

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Yeah , I kind of thought that too , and then I had to look it up and

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no , it just means like drinking something like eagerly

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, mostly alcohol , fair , all

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right , all right , so for 200

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years this was the place

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to be . So we've talked

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about curse objects here before James Dean's

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car , the Hope Diamond , items

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. To me that make sense that they became

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cursed like as a warning perhaps

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, or revenge after death . That

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they became cursed like as a warning perhaps , or revenge after

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death , like we'll never know why it becomes cursed . We can only open the shop doors

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and discuss it . True that so , in 1908

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, miss newton purchased a

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goat , ironically enough , because mr

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newton was the owner of

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the goat the pub . What's happening

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? You about to get arrested I left

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the window open .

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I am I'm just not doing great

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on setting up the studio tonight uh

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, keep this solid .

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It's funny , the challenges of being

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a pub gangster , okay

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, uh , so , ironically

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enough , because Mr

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Newton owned the goat , the pub

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, okay , so he owns the

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pub . She just buys a goat . So

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, other than the traveling

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peddler offering a

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bargain price for the goat , there is really

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no actual reason why she purchased him . Some

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say to have as an unusual

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pet and others think that it was destiny

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.

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I like the goat of destiny idea

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.

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I do too . I think it's kind of cute because it's like the goat pub

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for like 200 years and then she just like gets a

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goat , Like I think that's cute .

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I want a goat , so bad Okay , I know .

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So unfortunately she

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didn't want to go like we want to go

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. So , miss Newton , actually I

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know she actually got one of the regular ale drinkers to dispatch the goat to fill

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her larder . And again , if you're

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like me , a larder is a room or

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a large cupboard for storing food

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. So there is x face

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is like horrified right now . I know because

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not the goat , I know because

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wouldn't it be so cute you have a goat pub

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and then the goat , just like , roams around the pub

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like he could have been , like the little , like they would never

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have to mow the grass , he would do it . Right

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. She did tell this

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gentleman to keep the head . Oh

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no , in 1858

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Harry Thompson , who was 82

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at this time , said in an interview

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that he remembered slaughtering the creature

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so it could be preserved and hung

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behind the bar With its long

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horns and beard . The head surveyed

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all who came into the pub , glaring

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balefully with black and hazel eyes

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.

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I will say though , for a place called the goat , it does

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seem fitting .

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You think it would already be there .

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Yeah , yeah , for sure .

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I don't know , though . I mean listen , we

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went 200 years without it . I

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don't know if we needed to slaughter a goat for

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it .

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Never a good idea to slaughter a goat . I feel like

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that's .

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I know the poor goat given

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the name Old Capricorn was now

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a wall ornament for the next 60

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years . Over those 60

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years , old Cap was blamed

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for a lot of illness and disharmony

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. Why ? Because he

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was there . So anything that went

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wrong , old Capricorn did it . Things

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went missing , even though the drill just like anything

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else . We gotta blame something or someone

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, not the actual people doing it .

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So we're already putting the energy into the goat

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, got it ?

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Correct . So for 60 years this

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is kind of all . Capricorn did it . You know what I mean . Whatever happened

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? Okay , in 67 , a new owner took on the goat . This was about the

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11th owner , though , from the time

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that Old Cap was alive at the pub to

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this point . So it's quite a few owners in between

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, but this owner was

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the one that was a little bit different , so

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, frank sorry when you say became

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owner of the goat , we're not talking about just the

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head we're talking about . Sorry , the goat the

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pub . Sorry , I know it's a little confusing . The

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goat is going to be the pub . Old capricorn

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is the head got

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it . Okay . Owner

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Frank Walpole was different

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than the rest , so his name

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is Frank Walpole . So Frank said

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that he was experiencing strange events

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. Since purchasing the goat , mirrors

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would fly off the wall , the pub

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piano would play by itself despite

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the top still being closed . Water

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would pour through the ceiling despite

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the top still being closed . Water would pour through the ceiling

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and his wife lily and their daughter jane would see figures walk around the inn at night

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. So I'm just going to put this disclaimer , because it was really

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hard for me to figure this out . They

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refer to it as a pub and then an inn

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, so I think there might have been rooms that you could stay

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at , but it's primarily referred to as

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a pub . I'm just putting that out there . Unless

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people call an inn a pub too , I

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don't know .

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I think English pubs

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way back then had rooms

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you could rent , but I think an inn

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and a pub are kind of synonymous . Now , I

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could be wrong too .

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We're going to go with that because when you look at it

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it looks like a small little place . I

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don't know it could have rooms whatever . One

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instance that stuck out to Frank

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the most was when a 17-year-old

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boy died in a car crash

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after touching old Capricorn

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the night before .

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Uh-oh .

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I don't know . Okay , so

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the newspaper of that time

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reported Mr Walpole saying

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that made me think seriously

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about taking the head down . Now

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I've done it . Some of the regulars don't

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like it , but it's for the best .

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Was this the first time he tied something

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bad happening to the head , because it seems like kind

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of a jump .

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So for Well ? Okay , so

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for 60 years prior to him taking this

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pub , everybody blamed the

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head on him .

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Oh head , okay , so that's already a set .

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But then he's the one that started experiencing

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like the mirrors falling , the flooding , people

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seeing stuff . So he's just like correlating

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it with like and then that kid touching

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the head and then dying the next day . He's like I gotta get

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this head out of here , gotcha okay

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okay , some say

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that the walpoles believe that the goat's

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head was all poltergeist activity

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. So they just thought that , like him

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itself was like a poltergeist

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, like the head itself .

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It kind of seemed that way at first with the way you were describing

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it .

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And then others say that

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they believed the

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Walpoles believed that this

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was their dead cousin , Alfred

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, who died on the British destroyer

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HMS Harvester

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on March 11th 1943

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. So they actually spoke with a medium

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and a priest about an exorcism which I

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don't know . Can you do an exorcism on a fucking goat

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head ? I don't know .

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I know you can do them in locations .

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Oh , I guess you can , can't you ? Okay

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, well , they did

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that or they didn't do it , but they talked , spoke

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about it at least . So I'm just not sure

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, though , because to me that doesn't make sense , because old

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cap came to us in 1908 and

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induced misfortune and such well

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before alfred died . So to me that doesn't

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really make sense . The poltergeist one I can

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, obviously I can get down with , but the

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uncle or cousin , whoever he was

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, I don't know about that . So

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, regardless , though , the town's

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peeps were not happy with Frank's

16:20

decision to remove their beloved watcher

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. They want him back , back

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, they want .

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I'm so sorry .

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Oh , you can always count on me for a good pun . Oh

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my God , I'm dead . I

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need to get a drink . Okay , that was good

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.

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Thank you , I'll be here all week .

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Two years later , old Capricorn

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was back on the wall Now

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.

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I'm not Okay , I'm done . I won't ever

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do it again .

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So you will . I'm not

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entirely sure where Frank had placed

16:54

, where

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he had placed him that deemed safer than the wall . But

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I digress . So now back

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displayed on his beloved tavern

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wall . Old cap got right

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back to it , but

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this time it

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wasn't people that he aimed his paranormal

17:13

activity towards , it was the pets

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I

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know I'm down for you fucking with

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the people . I am not down for you fucking with

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the pets , I know so to interrupt the

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sadness for one second , I'm

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just gonna say that I don't know who had

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these pets and how they got . I'm just

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I don't know , I don't know okay

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, so a mina

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bird dropped dead , and

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apparently that's just a species of birds around

17:39

here . So I don't know whose bird it was

17:41

, or if it was just a bird that just dropped

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dead , but it dropped dead okay a

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monkey died of a

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head injury . I have no idea

17:50

where they got this monkey or who actually had it

17:52

, but but he died of a head injury .

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Well , you answered my questions before I asked them .

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See , this is why I'm saying I don't know who had

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these . Now , this I do know . The family

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, this is . They're all sad , but okay . One

18:04

of the family's three dogs ran away

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while the other died giving birth

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and then its companion passed away

18:10

the next day . So

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we've got three dogs gone

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, a monkey and a bird

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. How did they lay the blame on the goat

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? Because apparently it all happened after they put

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him back on the wall .

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Okay .

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Listen , I don't know . So on

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Valentine's Day 1972

18:29

, brink had enough and

18:31

once again he removed the head from the wall

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. The local paper reported Once

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again removed old Capricorn , weighted

18:39

the shaggy head and threw it in the river

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. He had been told he must drown

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the evil spell . Only Mr

18:45

Walpole knows just where the goat's head

18:47

lies . He is hoping the place

18:49

will not bode ill for any broad

18:52

visitors this summer .

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Okay , but he probably doesn't even know where it's at , because

18:56

he threw it into water I was just gonna

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say what are you thinking like , what are your thoughts ? Cursed

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river is what I'm thinking . Now

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he just curts the whole fucking river right

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. How do we make energy stronger

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?

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throw it in water somebody

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told him he was supposed to drown the spell .

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I don't know who he got hopefully a witch

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and somebody smarter than me who knew what they were talking

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about but you're right , water is

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like a conduit , so I

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don't know .

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Are you thinking that this head is cursed

19:23

? Is that , maybe this ? What are you ? Where

19:25

are you thinking ?

19:26

I don't know it , just like if I knew why

19:28

they blamed it for the pets a little bit more I would say

19:30

so , other than like the kid touching

19:33

it and dying in the car accident . I'm thinking it's a little bit

19:35

more I would say so , Other than like the kid touching it and dying in

19:37

the car accident . I'm thinking it's a lot more correlation than causation . But

19:39

go on .

19:39

So then do you think all of the weird paranormal

19:42

stuff happening there is just because it's

19:44

like just an old pub and it's probably haunted

19:46

, not because of the I mean , show

19:48

me a place in England that's not haunted . Right

19:51

. So I'm just saying so . Do you think it's really this goat

19:53

head right now ? Right now , do you think it's the goat

19:55

head , or do you think it's just in general ?

19:57

Can I go 50-50 ? Yeah , I can see

19:59

how it could be the goat head , but I need more evidence .

20:01

I can see how it could be both .

20:02

Yeah , yeah .

20:03

All right , one month without

20:06

Old Cap goes by . Okay

20:09

, a reed cutter named

20:11

Alfred Stone stumbles upon

20:13

Old Cap . Old Cap had traveled

20:15

five miles to Rockland

20:17

Ike .

20:18

It does kind of make sense that a reed cutter would

20:20

find him .

20:22

Those grow on the banks of water , and he was said

20:24

to be looking more malevolent than

20:26

ever . Oh hello , so

20:29

would I if I drowned and then was floating

20:31

for a month .

20:33

I don't know . A lazy river for a month would be kind of

20:35

nice , but if I wasn't like dead .

20:37

But yeah , but if he was dead a long time

20:39

he

20:42

was dead , before he drowned .

20:43

How bad could it be so .

20:45

Alfred , I guess , is semi-smart

20:47

because he passed old cap to Mr .

20:55

A Lodes of Broad Hall Farm in Rockland , St Mary . Wow , these are some names .

20:56

I know I say semi-smart because I'm just not sure

20:59

if he should have even touched Ol' Cap . But

21:01

you know whatever . So

21:03

Mr Lodes' son Dennis

21:06

thinks he's cool , so

21:08

he hangs Ol' Cap on his barn

21:11

. And if you look , this up you can see

21:13

a picture . It's

21:15

like a picture of Ol' Cap on barn and like the guy standing

21:17

around it .

21:18

I don't know why , but I just get like a flashback to

21:20

Jeepers , creepers , where he's hanging in the

21:22

barn .

21:23

Oh my God . So Dennis

21:25

was quoted saying he'd start

21:27

his own museum . And

21:29

I'm just like listen , dennis , can we just leave

21:31

this to Greg and Dana . Don't don't

21:33

do what you can't do .

21:34

Like a haunted museum .

21:36

A something museum . Ok , so

21:38

he , trying to just keep old cap , even though

21:40

he knows he's supposed to be cursed , hangs

21:42

him on his barn and says he wants to start a

21:44

museum .

21:46

OK .

21:47

Dennis .

21:47

Very well thought out business plan .

21:49

Dennis is not smart .

21:53

Dennis is not going to have a good time .

21:54

I was trying to think of something that would go with Dennis , but

21:57

I'm like Dennis is dumb , okay

21:59

, so just a few

22:01

short days after arriving at his

22:03

new home , old Cap once

22:06

again back at his shenanigans

22:08

, the dogs on the farm almost

22:10

immediately started acting

22:12

aggressively , so they just completely

22:15

changed . Oh , and Dennis's

22:17

grandmother , evelyn Todd

22:19

, who lived with him , got

22:21

a prolonged attack of nosebleeds

22:25

that ended up putting her in the hospital

22:27

For nosebleeds . Yes

22:29

, that's how bad they were . They just never would stop

22:31

, Can you ?

22:32

imagine .

22:34

I've only had one nosebleed in my life and thank

22:36

God I was in the shower . Remember I told you I was in the shower and

22:38

I thought I was dying because blood

22:40

was just pouring all down my body like

22:43

once or twice a week .

22:45

When I was a kid like they were my

22:47

mom used to send me to school with a

22:49

dish rag and an extra shirt every day . I

22:52

still don't know why they happen . I I

22:54

don't know .

22:55

I probably picked my nose or something , but the

22:57

shower ones were the worst , because it mixes

22:59

with the water and you think you're like gonna

23:01

bleed out that's exactly what happened , because I was

23:03

washing my face , so my eyes were closed and then

23:05

, once I opened my eyes , blood was all

23:08

down my body and I was freaking out

23:10

because I had no idea what was going on anyway

23:12

, okay , back to the goat head

23:14

okay , so

23:17

shortly after hanging up old cap on the

23:19

barn , he was removed and

23:21

Old Cap was given back to the goat

23:23

. Oh no , and I'm sure they were so thrilled

23:25

, can you imagine ? So

23:27

now it's not gonna go well , like

23:30

the headlines and stuff are like the

23:32

goat that always comes back or

23:34

the goat that won't leave , like oh my god

23:36

, oh no , oh no . In

23:44

August of that year , old Cap was discovered in a shallow grave at strumshaw

23:46

gravel pit . I don't know if the goat had ever rehung up old

23:49

cap how long , like they

23:51

messed around . I don't know what happened , but

23:53

all of a sudden then he was found in a

23:55

gravel pit these

23:58

guys need like a 101 book on

24:00

how not to handle a cursed object

24:02

. Okay , tell me what at this point

24:04

, you would do with him I feel

24:06

like burn it , yeah , like get rid

24:09

of it .

24:09

You know , I feel like this is like starting to get

24:11

jumanji style , where they just keep hiding

24:13

it and then some unsuspecting person

24:16

, yeah just stumbles upon it .

24:18

yeah , okay , well , okay , well , I'll see that . So

24:20

if you were trying to curse somebody

24:22

, your book is perfect . Your book idea is perfect

24:24

because you just keep stumbling upon

24:27

people .

24:27

Hell , yeah , all right , I'm sticking to that

24:29

original answer .

24:31

No , I like that answer . Okay , so anyway . So he's found

24:33

in a gravel pit . It was said

24:35

that the creepy cranium

24:38

was found in the ground , as

24:40

if it was alive .

24:42

Oh , can you , can you elaborate ?

24:44

I mean no , like he was sticking out and

24:46

it looked like he was like coming out like he's alive . I

24:48

need you to understand . This goat

24:50

has like massive

24:52

, like horns , white fur

24:54

, like beard gruff , like scruffy

24:57

beard , like it looks wild . Before

24:59

it's already been in a river

25:01

for a month . Then

25:04

it's been in a gravel pit

25:06

for how long like I can't even

25:08

imagine what this thing looked like when they

25:10

just found it this time . So a

25:12

digger was . A digger was used

25:15

to remove old cap , like to pull him out of the

25:17

gravel because he's kind of really in there . And

25:19

after retrieving him , the digger got

25:21

a flat tire traveling across

25:23

across the quarry I'm going to

25:25

, I'm going full curse now I know . So

25:27

doesn't the quarry make you think of the flintstones

25:29

? The movie oh , I love that you've

25:32

never seen it . I never saw the movie

25:34

.

25:34

I I think I've seen like clips from the movie , but

25:36

I don't think I've ever seen it's such a good movie and halle

25:38

berry is so hot in that movie

25:40

.

25:41

Okay , anyway , uh . So that

25:43

could be coincidental , though the flat tire like

25:46

I don't know yeah , but it's starting to add

25:48

up .

25:48

Enough now for me okay .

25:50

However , the

25:53

mechanic that came to fix

25:55

the tire on the digger got shot

25:57

in the arm by a pelican . The

26:00

shooter unknown .

26:03

No idea where it came from now it's starting

26:05

to sound more like like james's car and the hope

26:07

diamond , where it's like when we're like the

26:10

people helping , you're starting to get

26:12

affected .

26:12

Yeah yeah , I don't know , in 18

26:15

, nope , in 1984

26:18

. In 1984 , the goat was

26:20

bought by Paul Cornwall and

26:23

he renamed the goat the Huntsman , which

26:25

I kind of think is funny because , like

26:28

we didn't , hunt .

26:29

Are we playing on like Cinderella ?

26:30

I don't know . Oh yeah , we could be , but we didn't

26:33

hunt the goat , but we killed it

26:35

. So I guess you know , change it from the goat

26:37

to the huntsman .

26:38

I don't know . It's kind of a badass name , though

26:41

, for a cursed goat . Ted , I'm here for it

26:43

.

26:43

Well , here's the thing he just bought

26:45

the goat he .

26:47

Oh , he doesn't know .

26:48

No . So the story of

26:50

old cap was rekindled when Paul

26:52

bought it , and so Paul was very much intrigued

26:54

, and

26:57

the local newspaper quoted Paul

26:59

saying I'm all for local superstitions

27:02

and I am interested in the whole history

27:04

of the place . I'm not a believer but

27:06

having said that , we all have got

27:08

to go sometime and

27:11

, you know , might as well die through touching

27:13

a goat's head . Of course I'd like it back

27:15

. I am a glutton for punishment . No

27:18

one knows where old Capricorn ended

27:20

up after the quarry . Glutton

27:22

for punishment . No one knows where old Capricorn ended up after the quarry . So maybe he

27:24

found another pub to watch over , perhaps he finally found a place to rest All right

27:26

.

27:27

So the digger came out . The digger broke

27:29

down , but then we don't know where he went after

27:31

.

27:32

No , isn't that crazy . So the digger

27:34

gets him out , gets a flat tire . The

27:36

mechanic that's fixing the digger gets shot in the fucking

27:38

arm . And then that's the last that anybody's

27:40

ever heard of old cap . Nobody

27:43

knows what happened to him .

27:43

And you know this goat head is in like somebody's

27:46

basement .

27:47

I know and I think it'd be so

27:49

cool if somebody had

27:51

it and brought it back to the

27:53

pup . I think it should be brought back . I

27:55

mean , maybe it should .

27:56

I think that's kind of cool , but it's also kind of wishing

27:59

a curse on people I know . I think that's like a kid dying in a

28:01

car accident . I'm like maybe it shouldn't .

28:03

So I know this is a little bit like of a shorter

28:05

story , but it is . It's

28:07

just so weird to me and

28:16

I kept reading it and reading it and I'm like it's so

28:18

like at first you're like you know the drunks

28:20

blaming the goat head , but then it is really weird

28:22

that he just kind of keeps coming back

28:24

or like at least being found and reappearing

28:27

. Like it's so crazy to me . This is

28:29

a skull .

28:30

This is literally just a skull I'm

28:33

going intentional thing on this one , okay

28:35

, like the dibbick boxes , you know , remember

28:37

that whole thing . When dibbick boxes became a

28:39

craze , they were the jew rite

28:41

of trapping a demon in a box

28:43

with all these artifacts . And it turned out while

28:46

they were getting EVPs and

28:48

dark messages and then bad things happening

28:50

around the Dybbuk boxes , the guy who made

28:52

the original one came out and was like I threw it up on eBay

28:54

and it was all a prank , like I literally made it up

28:56

. Made it up , yeah , but because

28:58

over years , right , people were putting

29:00

this yeah , psychic energy , this

29:02

negative energy , feeding

29:04

it into the item , it starts

29:07

to act in accordance with what

29:09

you're prescribing onto it , right , like I think

29:11

you and what you've talked about it a million times

29:14

that psychic energy is a lot stronger than we

29:16

think and I think they intentionally curse

29:18

this item so I do

29:20

agree with you , but then also

29:22

I'm like maybe it is just old

29:24

capricorn being pissed off because he got murdered

29:27

for no goddamn reason yeah , he was like the pet

29:29

of the bar .

29:29

He could have had a great life he should have just

29:31

been able to live at the bar and , just like

29:33

you said , cut the grass . He could have been like a

29:36

mascot , but like alive , like

29:38

why did he have to die ?

29:39

I mean , it also could be like whatever the shadow

29:41

things were , whatever in the bar , like maybe somehow

29:44

attached to this item , because people were

29:46

already like I guess , if I

29:48

was a spirit right and I wanted to mess with people

29:50

, if people were already sort

29:52

of not respecting isn't the right word , but

29:54

holding that head in like some sort of reverence

29:57

to the bar . I agree that's yeah

29:59

then maybe you attach to it so

30:01

well onto that .

30:02

You know they say that dolls become

30:05

haunted a lot because they look like the

30:07

vessel of , like what you already were in , because they

30:09

look like humans . So dolls a lot get

30:12

haunted because they're

30:14

similar but like goats

30:16

are like the bad

30:18

side . So maybe it was like a

30:20

. I'm not saying demonic , but you know what I

30:22

mean , because I don't think it's a demon , I think it's just something

30:24

like maybe , not maybe not human , just

30:26

like an energy that's like oh , that looks fun

30:28

, like , that looks like the devil .

30:30

Let me jump in that yeah , like humans

30:32

already attribute demons

30:35

and goats .

30:35

So that's what I'm saying , yeah , yeah , it's

30:38

interesting that the pub was there for like 200

30:40

years yeah no

30:42

one reported about anything

30:44

.

30:45

And not to say that until the head was there , and then the

30:47

head was there for six years .

30:49

Some things they just blamed on , but it was

30:51

not anything crazy . Then

30:54

that frank guy comes along and all this weird

30:56

stuff is happening again . Who's to say it wasn't happening

30:58

before ? No one said anything or just wasn't reported

31:00

. So it is interesting how

31:02

it happened . And then , like amped

31:05

up , like amplified , which I I do understand that

31:07

like energy and hauntings and things like that

31:09

, they do progress and they amplify . It's

31:11

just very interesting . So I don't know

31:13

, I'd like to think that old cap is

31:15

just you know , hmm , where would he like

31:17

to be ? I mean , I don't know , I mean probably

31:20

back at the bar fucking with people yeah , but if

31:22

he's , but if they don't have him there , he's

31:24

clearly hasn't tried that much hard to

31:26

get back , because he can do it if he wants . He's

31:28

gotten back . So I

31:31

don't know maybe they destroyed him

31:33

.

31:33

I would like I imagine , right

31:35

, if I found this thing coming out of the gravel and

31:37

I pulled it out and then I was trying to like get

31:40

help and that guy got shot in the arm , I

31:42

would destroy him . In my mind it's kind of like a

31:44

goat screaming but also coming out .

31:46

I don't know so

31:48

, anyway , that is the story

31:50

legend , not really legend , but

31:52

the story of I would say

31:54

it's almost legend .

31:56

It's probably legend to some old goat

31:58

drinkers .

31:59

Yeah , old Capricorn .

32:01

Well , I meant old goat like the bar . Oh

32:03

, I listened to what you said , but no

32:06

, I love me a good cursed object story

32:08

and I think that it's one . Like I said , it goes

32:10

50-50 .

32:10

But like then when it just keeps

32:13

reappearing , right , I know that

32:15

, jumanji vibe , that's what I loved about it

32:17

is because it's like all the articles are like the

32:19

cursed goat head of Strumshaw

32:21

that always returns and it's just

32:23

like what are you talking about ? And they're like this is

32:25

kind of creepy .

32:26

How did you find this one ?

32:28

I found it a long time ago

32:30

and I've had it in my like notes to

32:32

go through and I was like that . Actually

32:35

I think it was on um , what's the

32:37

I

32:39

don't know that doesn't

32:41

matter .

32:42

Well , good job , though I kind of want to

32:44

dig more into this one .

32:46

I know there's not Because it is

32:48

quite a long time ago . There's a decent

32:50

amount of articles , but they're all pretty much the

32:52

exact same article .

32:54

We're going to have to keep our eye out

32:56

for if he reappears .

32:57

What if it's every 60 years ?

32:59

Well , then we probably have some time

33:01

.

33:02

No ? When did I say the last no

33:04

? When did it be passed ? Probably you know what We'll do

33:06

the math later .

33:09

Anyways , all right .

33:10

Nice job .

33:11

Thanks , friends , listeners

33:14

, people of the shop , tell us about your favorite

33:16

cursed objects , or if you think the goat's real

33:18

, or

33:26

if you think the goat's real , or if you know where the goat head is . We want to hear it all . Um , with

33:28

that being said , if you think Kara did a great job today , you should leave her a review telling her that

33:30

she is the goat , because in my mind , oh , you are . Thanks , uh , and what else should those people

33:32

do ?

33:32

um , I don't know , but I have to tell you this story

33:35

because it just made me think of it , did you okay

33:37

? So , oh my god , what

33:39

the fuck's his name ? The actor Jonah

33:43

Hill . Okay , so Jonah Hill and Meryl

33:45

Streep were in a movie together ? I

33:47

don't .

33:48

Uh , don't look up .

33:49

Yeah .

33:50

And .

33:51

Jonah literally I guess all of

33:53

recording kept calling Meryl Streep the goat

33:55

, like you're the goat , you're the goat , yeah

33:58

, yeah , yeah . And she's just like going

34:00

with it like oh my god . And then I guess she says to

34:02

somebody like one day , like after months and months

34:04

and months was like I don't know why he

34:06

keeps calling me the goat . And they're like meryl

34:08

, it means greatest of all time , like he oh

34:10

my , can you imagine meryl ? She'd just be like , oh

34:13

thanks . Like he was mortified . He's like this

34:15

woman just thought I was just calling her a goat for months

34:18

I have have seen that clip actually . It's so cute

34:20

. If you haven't watched that movie you need

34:22

to .

34:23

First of all , it's got my like the

34:25

woman I would go straight for in two

34:27

seconds in there who ? Jennifer

34:29

Lawrence . Oh , she teams

34:31

up with Leo .

34:33

Yeah , I know the premise .

34:36

Oh , my God , it's so good , it is so

34:38

good . I'm gonna watch it , god it's so good .

34:39

It is so good , all right . Well then there's your movie recommendation . So Zach's

34:41

going to go watch it , so you guys can watch it , and

34:44

then let us know if you like it . Please

34:46

let us know if you like us , like Zach

34:48

said . All right , I'm delirious

34:50

, I got to get out of here . So thank you

34:53

so much for listening . Thank you for staying all

34:55

the way to the end . If

35:06

you got to the end .

35:06

Please leave us a ghost emoji on our last post . If you've made it all the way to this

35:09

we love you , appreciate you and , most importantly , creep

35:11

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35:11

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35:13

I , I was

35:15

gonna correct you , but yes , go

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, go Okay bye .