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Welcome to Noble Blood, a production
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of I Heart Radio and Grimm and Mild
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from Aaron Minkie listener discretion
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is advised. Culturally,
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we are obsessed with the idea
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of women going mad. It's
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a theme that's pervaded literature for
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hundreds of years. It's
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a woman sometimed, young, usually
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beautiful, who becomes a
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tragic figure hold away
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in a gothic, decrepit mansion.
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The woman loses her mind and
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then usually her life.
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There are too many examples to name,
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the Lady of Shelot, Cathy from
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Weathering Heights, Bertha and Janier,
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Miss Havisham, and of course,
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perhaps most iconically, Ophelia.
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Feminist literary critic and Princeton
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professor Elaine show Walter wrote,
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Ophelia became the prototype
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not only of the deranged woman
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in Victorian literature and art, but
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also of the young female asylum
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patient. In fiction.
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The madwoman usually comes from
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a society of rigid gender rules.
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Take Ophelia again. Ophelia's
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madness is the thing that allows her
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to break free of the limitations
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and restrictions on women in her
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society. In the play, her
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hair that was once neatly covered
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and pulled back is after
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she goes mad, let down, wavy
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and untamed at its full length,
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and, as Elaine show Walter points
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out, Ophelia also breaks
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free of her sexual propriety.
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Ophelia becomes provocative, singing
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body songs and giving away flowers
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in a not so subtle allusion
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to her deflowering herself.
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That brings up another aspect of
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the pop culture portrayal of the
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woman gone mad, that madness
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is the inverse of proper female
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decorum when it comes to sexuality.
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A mad woman is one
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who wants, one who has explicit
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female desires. In
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essay on Ophelia, Emmy Harmana
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writes about the idea of mad women
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as a rado maniacs. She
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writes this is based on masculine
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assumptions that women are more inclined
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to go mad since they are closer to the
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irrational by nature, and that
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young women's madness is more
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often than not caused by sexual
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frustration of unrequited
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love. There it is the
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woman who goes crazy because
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she wants a man she cannot have.
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Perhaps it's even the origin of a particularly
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sexist modern trend of dudes
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telling their friends that all of
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their clingy x is are quote
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crazy. The link
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between sexual frustration
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or desire and madness or hysteria
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in women might also help
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to explain the Victorian invention
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of the vibrator, used to
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induce what doctors called paroxysms
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in women in order to restore
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their sanity. But the
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stories when it comes to our fictional
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heroines don't usually end
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well. Mad women get
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a brief chance to break free
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from social conventions, to scream
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in a society that forced them to whisper.
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But then these women's are disposed
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of. They die by beautiful
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suicide in flowy white gowns
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and water if they're beautiful like Ophelia
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or the Lady of lat or
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by fire if they're not as beautiful
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like Miss Havisham or Bertha in
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Jane Eyre, or more
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sinisterly, they're disposed
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of, deposited in a asylums
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or the attic, like the heroine
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of the Charlotte Perkins Gilman story
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The Yellow Wallpaper. If
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you've never read The Yellow Wallpaper, you
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absolutely should. It
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was written in eighteen two,
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and the story is framed as the diary
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of a young woman who suffers from
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what might be in modern parlance called
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postnatal depression, and
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so, after this woman gives birth, her
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husband decides that the best treatment
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for her is isolating her
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in an attic room. Over
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the course of the story, the narrator
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begins to hallucinate, to
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become as mad as her
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either sinister or misguided husband
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believed her to be. Was
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the narrator mad all along? Or
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did the prolonged period of boredom
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and isolation drive her crazy?
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That brings us to the unlucky
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subject of today's podcast.
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Want To of Castile, or as she's
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known more colloquially, Juana
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la Loca. The Juanna
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was technically Queen of Castile for over
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fifty years and of Argon for thirty
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of those. Her title was
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in name only. For
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the vast majority of her reign. She
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was imprisoned in a castle in tordisse
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Us, declared insane by
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the men in her life who wanted to rule
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in her place, first her
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husband and then her father and
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then her son. As
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a literary figure, Juanna is irresistible.
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Her supposed madness was
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brought on by her obsessive love
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for her husband. After
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his death, they say that Wanna refuse
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to let them bury the body so
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that she could continually open the
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casket and kiss his cold
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face. There maybe
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couldn't be a better example of an Ophelia
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archetype in real life, love
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sick over a man to the point
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that it destroyed her sanity. But
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it's impossible to note to what extent
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the stories are true, or
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whether they were just convenient propaganda
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for her father to use in his
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claim to her kingdom.
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There are versions of Juana's story
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that try to paint her as a maligned
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feminist of history, a woman
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who was perfectly in her right mind,
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wrongfully accused of madness on purpose
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by men who knew that they could have that power.
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But some of one's behavior was genuinely
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strange, and as an heir
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of the deeply inbred Hapsburg family,
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mental illness was an occupational
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hazard for European monarchs. By
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the end of Juana's imprisonment, after
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decades in isolation, it's
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irrefutable that her mental condition
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had collapsed, but
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plenty of kings ruled freely, even
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as they behaved in ways that were charitably
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called eccentric. Being
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a woman made it easy for Juana's
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rivals to dispose of her and
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to turn her life into easy,
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appealing fiction. She's
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the type of story about a madwoman
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that we can't help but want to tell over
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and over again. I'm
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Danish Schwartz, and this is
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noble blood. Even
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if you've never heard of Juana before, you've
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probably heard of her parents, Ferdinand
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and Isabella, the King and Queen
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of Argon and Castile, respectively,
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but their union meant that the pair of
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them ruled a dynastically united
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Spain. The two of them
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are famous for funding Christopher
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Columbus's exploration of what was
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then called the New World, and
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for being the Catholic monarchs that began
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the Spanish Inquisition, and for
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the conversion of all of the Jews and Muslims
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in Spain. You've probably
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also heard of Juanna's younger sister, Catherine
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of Aragon, who became Henry
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the eighth first wife. Juanna
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was never supposed to be a queen. She
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had an older brother and an older sister
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in line before her, but still,
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when she was young, she was incredibly
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well educated, so that one day she
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would be ready for an advantageous
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marriage. That means that she was
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taught all of the languages of the
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Iberian Peninsula, Castilian,
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Catalan and Galico Portuguese, as
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well as French and Latin to
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her religious parents Dismay.
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As she was educated, Juanna became
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something of a religious skeptic, but
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none of that mattered really When she turned sixteen
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and it was finally time for her to fulfill
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her real purpose marriage.
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Juanna was betrothed to Philip
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of Flanders, Duke of Burgundy,
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also known as Philip the Handsome.
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This is where I will say, if you are
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near your phone or a computer, you
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should absolutely google a photo
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of Philip the Handsome, just to
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get an idea of what passed for good
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looks in the fifteenth century. Baby
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bangs on men were clearly
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a look that worked back then, but
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by all accounts, Philip was quite
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the charmer, and the pair were married
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first by double proxy and
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then in person in four when
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Juana arrived in Flanders with a
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fleet of over one hundred ships.
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Their marriage was supposed to be on October,
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but the story goes that one arrived
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and met Philip in person on the and
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was so immediately overcome
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with love or lust that
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the pair of them begged to be married that very
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day that they could consummate their relationship
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that night. Philip's handsomeness
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clearly worked on Wana, and the
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two of them had three children while
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they lived in Flanders. It
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was during this period that something unexpected
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was happening to the line of succession back
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in Spain. A year
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after Juana married Philip, her brother
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Juan, the heir to the throne,
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died, But to the great
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relief of everyone, One's
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wife, Margaret of Austria, was seven
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months pregnant at the time, and the hope
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was that she would have a son and a new
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heir who could take his or
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her father's place in the line of succession.
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But that December, Margaret gave
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birth to a stillborn girl,
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with that line ended. Next in line
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was one as older sister, Isabella,
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the Queen of Portugal, wife of Manuel
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of Portugal. People in
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Spain were a little resisent about
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a female queen, but the
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good news for everyone was that Isabella
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was also pregnant and she
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had a son that would assuage all
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of those concerns. And
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lo and behold, a son was
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born, Miguel in August. But
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Isabella of Portugal had had a
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difficult pregnancy, during which
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she had traveled extensively and
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that might partly explain why
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hours after childbirth Isabella
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died. The kingdom
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had little Miguel, but not for long.
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The infant Prince of Portugal
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and the Spanish Kingdoms, the
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boy who would have united all of the Iberian
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kingdoms, died when he was just
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two years old in his grandmother Isabella's
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arms. So
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in just three years, Juana
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became next in line to be queen,
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and she was officially recognized by
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the legislative bodies, the Corteses.
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But during her time away in Flanders,
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rumors had already begun to spread about
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her mental state. Juanna,
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who had been madly in love with her husband
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Philip the Handsome since the moment she saw
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him, was also wildly
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jealous when it came to her husband's
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infidelities. For what it
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was worth, her jealousy was merited.
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He was a philanderer. Once
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Wanna caught her husband in the
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throes of passion with one of her ladies
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in waiting, a woman who was known
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in courts for her luscious,
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shiny, long hair, Wanna
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shared the woman's hair off herself
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and then left the locks on Philip's
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pillows. A tom Hagen
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horsehead maneuver centuries
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before the Godfather. Wanna
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desperately wanted her husband to love
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her to stop his wandering eye.
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She tried love potions and tonics
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literal snake oil, all
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to no effect. Wanna
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and Philip had wild fights.
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Sometimes those fights would end in Philip
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literally confining and locking
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Juana in her rooms, where she would
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refuse food and sleep as
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a tactic for control. That
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was a frequent strategy when
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Juana Tantrum in
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fifteen o four, her mother Isabella,
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was sick with a fever, and Juana
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went to visit her in Castile. It's
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unclear exactly what happened, but
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there was some sort of altercation there,
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either between Juanna and her mother or
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between Juanna and her husband back home
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in Flanders. That meant that Juanna
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wanted to go back home immediately
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through France. The
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problem was Castile was at war with
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France, and it would be incredibly dangerous
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for her to transport herself on land.
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Castile might be at war with France, Juanna
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declared, but I'm not. She
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was completely irrational in her
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determination, so much so
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that her traveling companion in Bishop
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Fonesca, had to physically take
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her horses back to the stables himself
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to prevent Juanna from leaving. When
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Wanna reached the lock stables,
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she screamed and shook the bars
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and stayed up all night, refusing
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the basic comforts of food or
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blankets. So
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that was one as reputation when
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later that year her mother, Isabella
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died, Argon and Castile
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being separate kingdoms, meant that
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upon her mother's death, Juana
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became the Queen of Castile, although
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Isabella had stipulated that if Juana
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was unfit or unwilling to rule, Juana's
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dad, Ferdinand, would be allowed to govern
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until Juana's eldest son turned twenty.
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But Ferdinand had been ruling
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a united Argon and Castile
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alongside his now deceased wife,
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and he was not willing to let that go with
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one and her husband still in Flanders.
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For Ferdinand printed coins that said
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fernand and Joanna King and Queen
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of Castile and tried to persuade
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the Cortes that Juanna was
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so ill that she would not be able
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to govern, which led to the Cortes
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appointing him Ferdinand as
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the kingdom's administrator and governor
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and as Juan as guardian. But
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Philip the Handsome, Juana's husband,
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wasn't going to take that sitting down.
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He wanted to rule Castile,
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and so he also printed
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coins with his and his wife's
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names. For her part, Juanna
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attempted to dispel rumors about
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her insanity. She wrote
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a letter from Brussels to a signor de vere
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that I haven't been able to find translated
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into English, but the general
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idea is that she acknowledges the
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stories about her jealous passions,
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but that jealousy is a trait that she inherited
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from her wonderful mother, whom
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they all acknowledge was just one
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of the most excellent women in the world. But
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Ferdinand had already gotten the Cortees
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to appoint him as one as guardian,
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and Tuana and phil the Handsome were still
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in Flanders, so Ferdinand
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moved in to try to assert his
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power. He was also looking
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to edge Juana out of succession
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entirely by getting married again
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with the intention of producing an air Ferdinand's
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second wife was Germaine de Foix,
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the niece of Louis the twelfth of France,
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and in classic Hapsburg fashion,
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Ferdinand's own grand niece. The
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two never produced an air, and
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the move actually backfired on Ferdinand,
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whose pro French policies only
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bolstered support for the husband
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and wife pair of Juana and Philip. With
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the nobles on their side, Juanna
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and Philip made their way to Castile to
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try to cement their power. Although
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Ferdinand and Philip were rivals
16:56
here, they did put their differences aside
16:59
for the mutue really beneficial arrangement,
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where they met secretly to declare
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Juanna unfit to rule because of her
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quote infirmities and sufferings.
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Ferdinand did briefly attempt to challenge
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Philip for Castile, but knowing a losing
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battle when he saw one pretty quickly,
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Ferdinand retreated back to our gun. So
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Philip the Handsome was King of Castile
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with all of the power that he took
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from his supposedly infirm
17:31
wife. But he wouldn't have the
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power for long. Philip
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got sick, and though the official cause
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of death was typhoid, many
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people thought that he was poisoned, possibly
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on the orders of Ferdinand. Mad
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with love or just mad, Juanna
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was bereft, Philip
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the Handsome was just when
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he died. Juanna was pregnant
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with their sixth child. It's
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at the point that, if you believe
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the stories, Juanna had
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a breakdown. She
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refused to be parted from her husband's
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dead body for months.
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They say, she didn't leave the side
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of the embalmed corpse, and she frequently
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requested that the casket be opened
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over and over again so that
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she could gaze upon her dead husband's
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handsome face once more and
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kiss his cold and waxy
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lips. At least dead
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in his coffin, Philip the Handsome
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couldn't incite his wife's jealousy,
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or so you might think, I
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want to accompanied the casket to its
18:38
final resting place in Granada,
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and she insisted that the procession
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only travel at night so that
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other women wouldn't see Philip the Handsome's
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body and be tempted by the corpse.
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It was during these travels that Juanna
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gave birth to a daughter named Catherine
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for her sister at
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She finally let them put Philip's body
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in the ground for a good Wanna returned
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to a castile plagued by
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disaster, with a literal
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plague first of all, but also famine.
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Juanna was out of her depth.
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On one hand, some of those problems
19:17
would have been impossible for a monarch
19:19
to solve, but Juanna also
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probably did suffer from some mental
19:24
illness that was wildly exacerbated
19:26
by the death of her husband. It
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was a loss that she would never be able to get
19:31
over. For whatever reason,
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Juana was incapable of ruling
19:35
her kingdom effectively against
19:38
her will. The Cortes set up a regency
19:40
council for Juana in fifteen o seven,
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and Juanna just didn't have the resources
19:45
or the tactical ability to raise
19:48
the support she would need in order to protect
19:50
her right to the throne. Just
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as the plague and famine were finally
19:55
letting up the next year, her
19:57
father, Ferdinand swooped in
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he who was promptly placed as regent.
20:04
In fifteen o nine, Ferdinand
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confined his daughter to the royal
20:09
palace at tortoisse Us on the
20:11
basis of her supposed insanity.
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There are rumors about her paranoia,
20:17
suicidal urges, and her
20:19
necrophilia with the dead body of her
20:21
husband, but it's tricky to parse
20:24
out exactly what's true and what
20:26
isn't. It's always challenging
20:28
to retroactively diagnose
20:31
illness in historical figures, mental
20:33
or otherwise. But it's especially
20:35
tricky here because it was in Ferdinand
20:38
and Philip's interest for the general
20:40
public to think that Juana was so insane
20:43
that they could rule in her stead, and
20:45
we know for a fact that both had forged
20:47
letters and documents from her at
20:49
different points to suit their purposes.
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Ferdinand, one his father, was never
20:58
able to have a new heir, and so, though
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he didn't like it, one as eldest
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son, Charles, was the heir to the thrones
21:05
of Argon and Castile. Ferdinand
21:08
especially hated Charles because he was
21:10
raised in Flanders and Ferdinand saw
21:12
his grandson as a foreigner. Fernand
21:15
tried to instead put another one
21:17
of juan as sons, a younger son who
21:20
was raised in Castile, next
21:22
in line for the throne, but
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it didn't Ultimately work, Charles
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and port Juana were left the kingdom's
21:29
jointly when Ferdinand died, although
21:32
for a brief period after his death, Argon
21:34
was ruled by Ferdinand's illegitimate
21:36
son Alonso. They
21:39
say that for the rest of his life, Ferdinand
21:41
only visited his daughter Juana twice
21:44
while she was in prison. Young
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Charles inherited the kingdom and
21:49
also custody of his mad
21:51
mother in tord to see Us, where she
21:54
was kept for the rest of her life.
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Charles the Fifth in Spain would go
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on to be the Holy Roman Emperor
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as Charles the First. For
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forty five years, Juanna
22:06
remained imprisoned. There
22:08
was one year where she was briefly freed
22:10
by rebels against Charles, but he swiftly
22:13
put an end to that and put Juana back
22:15
in toward to see Us. Charles
22:17
instituted a policy of isolation
22:20
for his mother. Quote it seems
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to me that the best and most suitable
22:25
thing for you to do, he wrote to her
22:27
attendants, is to make sure that
22:29
no person speaks with her Majesty,
22:32
for no good could come of it. The
22:35
longer Juana was confined, the
22:37
worse her condition became. Although
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it's hard to pretend that being locked up
22:42
and more or less ignored for a few decades
22:44
wouldn't make someone well lose
22:47
their mind. By the end
22:49
of her life she was paranoid, but
22:51
the nuns wanted to kill her. Juanna
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refuse to eat or sleep, or bathe
22:56
or change her clothes. She
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died at age seventy five on Good
23:01
Friday in fifteen fifty. They
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buried Wana in the royal chapel, beside
23:07
her parents and her husband. And
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even though her life ended there alone
23:12
and all but forgotten, all
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six of one as children would go on
23:17
to become monarchs in their own right France,
23:20
Spain, the Holy Roman Empire, Hungary,
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and Portugal. Whatever mental
23:24
illness they might have inherited from their mother,
23:27
they also inherited her royal
23:29
blood. That's
23:35
the story of Juanna la Loca. But keep
23:37
listening after a brief sponsor break, to
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hear a little bit more about one of her
23:42
most macabre relatives. I
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think you're gonna like this one.
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The part of juan a story that tends to
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get the most attention, perhaps
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justifiably, is the exhimation
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of her husband's corpse and her rumored
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necrophilia. But there's
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another story about a dead body
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in the nobility of the Iberian Peninsula
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that I think is worth our attention.
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Peter, the first King of Portugal,
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was a direct ancestor of Juana, albeit
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one almost two hundred years before she
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was born. He was in love
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with a woman named Inez de Castro, and
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they were forbidden to marry. And though
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the story of their lives are fascinating
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and maybe even a story for another
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future podcast. It's the story
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of Inez's death, or rather
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her life after death, that I
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think seems appropriate to talk about at
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the moment. Inessa
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had only been Peter's mistress in her lifetime,
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and when she died, he wanted
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to find a way to legitimize their
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children in the line of succession. He
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claimed that he had secretly married Annez
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before she died, but there was no proof
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of that. The Pope refused to recognize
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that secret marriage or the legitimacy
25:04
of the children that they had, so
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in an attempt to force the court to
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recognize her as the legitimate queen,
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and as a show of his love for her
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and his power, rumor has
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it that Peter exhumed
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in as his body from her grave, dressed
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the body in all of the regalia
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of a massive coronation dress
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Jules robe for and crown,
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and held a coronation for his
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queen even though she was
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just a dead body. Peter
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then forced every single noble
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in his court to kiss the
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hem of his dead love's robes,
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and then to kiss her cold
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waxy hands. For
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what it's worth, no one ever called him
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Peter a loco, but
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for Juana, maybe it ran in
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the family. Noble
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