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Monday, 22nd April 2024
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0:03

["

0:06

Papua

0:21

New

0:28

York is fresh back

0:30

from Wembley, an excellent day of manuing

0:32

there, Eric's brave boys

0:34

beating City to reach the FA Cup

0:36

final, brackets Coventry." How was

0:38

it? What a team. It

0:41

was one of those situations where you're like, well,

0:44

it was like a decade in the day, wasn't it? Just

0:47

the whole, because it looked like, straying

0:50

at number one, a stone

0:52

cold wilderness years classic

0:55

to ruin all the other

0:57

classics we thought we'd seen before. Oh

1:00

yeah. And then I mean, I don't even,

1:02

I have myself had the day. I

1:04

was in the discotheque till quite an

1:06

hour last evening. I then

1:08

had to get up and I did

1:10

the first half of the Forest Everton

1:12

game, then I went to the game and I came

1:15

back and just did the classic home now. And

1:17

it's actually that situation where I thought, if this goes

1:19

to Penals is, like, I thought it was before the

1:21

game, I might have a problem getting back for the

1:23

Cusico. But I thought,

1:25

okay, that can't happen. You're like, okay. But as

1:27

soon as the first goal

1:31

went in, I said to

1:33

the mate that I was next to, this

1:35

has got all the makings. Absolutely.

1:38

And Coventry were, what, a toe away

1:40

from winning that right at the end.

1:42

I mean, it's the narrowest of narrow

1:46

offsides. And in fact, it's the kind of offside

1:48

where I see

1:50

it happen. I think a lot of football fans probably

1:52

feel this way. And we feel like the old rule

1:54

where it was like, that's level. It

1:56

was perfectly fine. And I almost felt

1:59

guilty. Sorry for

2:01

Coventry until I remember the Richard

2:03

Keys of the Coventry fan and then I like fuck

2:05

him. Steve

2:10

Agrizovic and Keith Ouch in Campaign for the

2:12

Tourists and Steve

2:15

Agrizovic like spent his play

2:18

for Liverpool in the 80s. Keith Ouch I think is

2:20

from the Northeast. How

2:22

dare you behave in that

2:24

manner. Still the

2:26

finest FA Cup final goal ever. I

2:30

think that is non-united,

2:33

probably my all-time favourite goal that one.

2:35

Not united, non-united related. I wrote a

2:37

long piece about it a few years

2:40

ago now because I was totally

2:42

fascinated by this goal because I haven't

2:44

seen a goal like that scored ever

2:46

before or ever again. I

2:48

was chatting to a mate's teenage son yesterday in

2:50

the short synagogue and I was telling him about

2:52

this and I said

2:55

he's literally horizontal. I sent

2:57

him the goal today and he was just like what? Because

3:00

it's weird because you

3:02

would think as the athleticism of

3:04

football has improved we'd see more

3:07

goals. More of that but actually

3:09

only that one really where your

3:11

proper horizontal like the fast straight

3:13

is just amazing. Well there

3:16

is Robin Van Persie in the World

3:18

Cup wasn't there. I mean obviously different goal further

3:20

out and all of that but he was pretty

3:22

super manny. That's yeah

3:24

I guess Persie may be

3:27

a bit dester. Yeah

3:29

because he's actually trying to guide the ball

3:31

whereas Howchis was just hurtling at it and

3:33

he gets it in the middle and smacks

3:35

it. But there's

3:38

like his own like he's just got to get to the

3:40

ball. Persie's got to get to the ball and control it

3:42

but now Howchis is still better. Anyway

3:45

one of the reasons we

3:48

don't see those kind of goals anymore is because

3:50

the cross has gone out of the game but

3:52

we to some at least the high cross Across

3:55

the box was sort of high cross,

3:57

but we had a low cross across.

4:00

The box open the eyes scoring a Scotland's

4:02

how many Braves got Mike Tomlin. A play

4:04

at number ten will bring out. In.

4:06

The holding are all. Sound.

4:09

Sound tactical Price: A from Eric

4:11

and any Olmert. Oh,

4:13

it's fine. it looked at as it

4:15

should be. I United doesn't matter what

4:17

kind of his side to go, my

4:19

genius manager puts out for any eleven.

4:21

Manchester United on the mantis night plays

4:23

on the pace and I should be

4:25

this lot nice outside of there. Wow

4:27

of many minutes he was. Yes,

4:30

But at the same time it

4:33

was so slow. Like.

4:35

Mcguire from going forward with the

4:37

bow. And. Everything

4:40

they did, they did slowly. And.

4:45

Yeah. I don't know

4:47

why. almost saw. A thing

4:49

and is at half time that given that

4:51

the kind of criticism and the way United

4:53

been lightning dollars by live midfield I've been

4:55

that C L quite conservative in that first

4:58

half and me, what was it to know

5:00

at the bright. And they

5:02

were compressing the gain a bit more

5:04

be better than they normally do. they

5:06

weren't allowing com to just go through

5:08

the central midfield he said When customer

5:10

i decided to try and run which

5:13

was bad idea pay me to just

5:15

stay still now as since most of

5:17

our attacks much more a customary to

5:19

be i suspect it's but he was

5:21

is just like a is almost like

5:23

he's done. oh yeah I see how

5:25

we can see the all these goals

5:28

less do watch. Most. Seems to

5:30

you and tries a compact when you

5:32

lose the ball and buddy or went

5:34

to say after fifteen minutes or stop

5:37

doing that. Well.

5:39

I think he was. That's thing is

5:41

that that once you get into trouble.

5:44

They. Don't. But he can't quite

5:47

say they haven't been able to extricate

5:49

themselves from it because they did my

5:51

and and they have done. But. They

5:53

like the has to that they could.

5:55

They compounds things so sorry easily. Incidentally.

5:59

i think this And I couldn't speak to the other

6:01

end. Look, when McGuire scores the header, it was a good header.

6:03

Does he knee slide? Oh,

6:06

I don't remember. So that

6:08

felt like... A bit dangerous. A bit dangerous. I

6:11

felt like he was good at it. You

6:13

can't knee slide. He scored

6:15

a header from a corner when you're winding

6:17

up against Coventry. I'm sorry. I mean, maybe I'm

6:19

actually chastising him for something he didn't do,

6:21

but I think he did. And...

6:25

And then, like, someone says what he...

6:29

He must think he's playing for England, the

6:31

Wembley, but that don't feel like his scores

6:33

like the header goals for England either. No,

6:36

he scored the one, didn't he, in the 2018

6:38

World Cup in Russia, and he's had a reputation

6:40

ever since that he scores a lot of goals,

6:42

which he doesn't. The other

6:44

thing... Anyway, fine header. Fine header from

6:46

Harry, and we can't take that away from him.

6:48

The other thing is that it feels like... United

6:51

played Liverpool twice recently. And

6:54

in both of those games, like, the

6:56

take-home has been, don't

6:58

fucking switch off. Because

7:01

if you do, that can happen. And

7:04

that's what they did. And, partly,

7:06

I'm thinking, were those changes necessary?

7:08

Well, I think... When you don't have any good

7:10

players on the bench. When you don't

7:13

have any good players on the bench. But, you

7:15

can't fucking take players off in 20 minutes to

7:17

go or whatever it is, and you're threeing them

7:20

up against the Jamfos side. Then when can

7:22

you? Well,

7:25

I think the thing is, you can't trust any of these

7:27

fuckers at all. I mean, look, three

7:29

games previously, the Liverpool game, the Chelsea game,

7:31

and what was the other game in between,

7:33

I forget now. He's taken

7:36

Golanacjo off, and in each of those

7:38

three games, United have gone on to

7:40

Lusoline. I mean, now,

7:42

it doesn't mean they're correlated, of

7:44

course, but it is interesting

7:46

that happens. I mean, the Golanacjo one I

7:49

was less concerned about, Cobie

7:51

Minu, who's played a lot of football and may well

7:53

be knackered and the sports science may well be that

7:55

he can't play more than an hour, but

7:57

they took him off and United lost all

7:59

semblance of control. They just completely lost the

8:01

run of themselves tactically. And I

8:04

mean, it was pretty shocking when a

8:06

18 year old who's barely played 20

8:08

games of football for United's

8:10

first team is so

8:13

important to their tactical makeup that you just

8:15

can't lose him. But they

8:17

did. I mean, by that show,

8:19

I felt like I was tired, taking

8:21

a few kicks. We need him. So

8:25

okay. Hoyland at the

8:27

end could hardly move. Yeah,

8:30

but he kept running, didn't he? So

8:33

he did. He did. And

8:35

the chance he missed was

8:38

that was a real classic. This guy's a

8:40

bit low on confidence and needs a goal

8:42

because we're confident him just

8:45

puts the laces through that. He

8:47

tries to make sure because if you put

8:49

the laces through it, you might balloon in my head. Defender

8:52

might keep him my favorite. So he tries

8:54

to get himself into a position from which he

8:56

cannot miss. And he doesn't have

8:59

that sort of time as it turns out. And

9:01

I think one of the problems that he has

9:03

is that he's multidimensional

9:06

in that he can do a little bit of everything. So

9:09

he can run in behind, he can post, he can

9:11

run to the front post, he can run from halfway,

9:13

he can hold it up a bit. He

9:17

can do a bit of all of these things

9:19

quite well. And actually,

9:21

if you had a player who was one or

9:24

two dimensional, then they'd have like

9:27

without, right? There was only a

9:29

couple of things he could do. So you knew what he was, you knew

9:31

what they were going to be. So you

9:33

could play to that because he's

9:35

only going to do that or that badly,

9:37

probably. But that's what it's going to be.

9:39

Rose Hoyland has a much bigger

9:42

range of abilities and range things that he

9:44

can contribute to the team, which I guess

9:46

is making it hard for them to play

9:48

to him, him to play to them. It's

9:52

not an excuse to the manager not being able

9:54

to sort this out. Yeah, but he

9:56

was he was not really in the game today. No,

9:58

but he's a. Hardly ever in the game,

10:01

you look at the number of shots he has and

10:03

the number of touches he has, it is really, really

10:05

on the low side for a striker. And

10:07

this is, as the nerds would say, game

10:09

model. United do not

10:11

play through the centre of the striker. He's expected to

10:14

come slightly deeper or play with back to goal and

10:16

bring other players in. And when it goes into him,

10:18

which he doesn't often most of the time, it's

10:21

going out to the wide players and the wide

10:23

players aren't playing well. United don't play well. And

10:25

also, the wide players are

10:28

more scorers than providers. Scorers and impact

10:30

players. I see a lot of people

10:32

moaning, both online and where I was

10:34

watching the game today, about Rashford,

10:36

because he runs down blind athletes constantly. When he's

10:39

not playing well, like today, he takes the ball,

10:41

he tries to take on every single defender in

10:43

front of him and inevitably he loses it. And

10:46

I just feel like that's instruction. Now,

10:48

I think it's bad instruction and he's

10:50

executing it incredibly badly. I'm

10:55

not sure about that. So

10:57

what I find with him, and I thought our third

10:59

goal was a really good example of this. He runs

11:01

down a blind alley, like loses the

11:04

ball. And I think the reason why he does

11:06

it is because he doesn't have a

11:08

clear plan himself of what he's going to do.

11:10

Tenhouse is not going to game plan every

11:12

single, when you're here and the defenders are like

11:14

this. Right now for sure, yeah. Like he's got

11:17

responsibility. And I

11:19

feel like he's lost in the supermarket. He just

11:21

can't decide what to do. And I think that's

11:23

partly again, like not a little bit like Hoyland,

11:25

but different way. His toolkit

11:28

is extensive, but unreliable.

11:30

I don't know, like a Fiat toolkit or something. That's

11:35

like quite an 80s gag, isn't it? Fiat's

11:37

being unreliable. I don't know. It's all like

11:39

telling cars, isn't it? My dad had one

11:41

in the early 80s that was famously so.

11:43

And Fiat's were famous for that until the

11:45

sort of... I say this, I don't know

11:47

anything about cars whatsoever. And I know I'm

11:49

talking to the mechanic. But

11:53

he has quite a deep toolkit rash. You can

11:55

go both ways, Left and right,

11:57

inside and outside. The

12:00

well I'm on a set of Carvallo on

12:02

go both ways. You. Can Sue. He's.

12:05

Got grey eye for a posts

12:07

sometimes. And. He couldn't hit

12:09

policies the haven't seen some signs so we'll

12:11

get enough decision down the that's usually and

12:14

what is trying to find the route to

12:16

go in. He's just. He's. Moving

12:18

inside and jockey installing because he he

12:20

taught working on the seat guess into

12:23

that position. And. He and he makes a

12:25

bowls of it. And. Then it goes

12:27

to breathe. I'm a breather, knows what he's gonna

12:29

do, sites the ball. He slams the show with

12:31

as much power as he can muster at that

12:33

time from the angle and he muslims. But with

12:35

all those ads that. Kind

12:37

of thing can happen in scope. And

12:41

it died. That critique crystallized nothing. Us a different

12:43

see wrestling gone that are as well go nuts

12:45

or makes up is my boy's gonna do and

12:47

he tries to do it. Meant to.

12:49

Doesn't work, It doesn't work. Be feels like he

12:51

has a better chance of of making it work.

12:54

And. Of making us. I'd say it's.

12:57

Because. If reader like your what

12:59

said, you know what's going on with rest but

13:01

it just feels so repetitive now. That.

13:03

He just borrows into hop into

13:06

Defenders. Tries. To work

13:08

a shooting range and slams into their

13:10

sins or whatever and Nasa is frustrating.

13:13

I mean it's it's a seventy something

13:15

that should be coachable and I don't

13:17

know what out Betty Mccarthy and and

13:19

ten hours a day redress read but

13:21

it's not what all season say he's

13:24

he's out place while down superior of

13:26

unless ability to completely shrivels is down

13:28

as well and any does have a

13:30

different role this season. but it's It's

13:32

not working at all the way that

13:34

I guess. When. We get Betty

13:36

Mccarthy Betty Mccall seat at the that with

13:38

likes him so my I don't have a

13:40

mouse thousand the Betty regards a some. And

13:43

Sunday, ah this they are. they are they. The

13:45

other one guy I can remember but he. He.

13:48

Schools that header against West Ham, a Britain

13:50

had A and a city schools. Another good

13:52

heather around that time is what o the

13:54

cat the confetti records it. But.

13:58

Not. Our is, nor is it. Neither

14:00

abetting because he's headed for

14:02

so guide Snyder's Britain's. When.

14:05

I then yes. Yes,

14:08

And I phone in our our when

14:10

were robbed still saw about that once

14:12

and that twat running down the at

14:14

the sights on Hillary did he do

14:16

anything in his life. So

14:18

well my mom, my classmates who that's

14:20

the during with Merida film As a

14:22

moment I'll get. There.

14:25

Is Abby fun? Authorize door and

14:27

also the island there was authorized.

14:29

Okay, so he's sitting rejoicing. Nice.

14:32

Nice and I had see a lot

14:34

mean I think does his time has

14:36

come and gone and buses one side

14:38

using see last week or on the

14:41

overlap they didn't realize that the that

14:43

goes I may well be a total

14:45

romance and that everyone seemed back. Anyone

14:47

in the premier League to the the

14:50

job I've been agitating isn't he. So.

14:52

Eyes is it sounds ludicrous by the

14:55

I'm sure he was the Schweinsteiger. To.

14:57

Remember he gets that red card games were

14:59

some. Fat. Albert someone in

15:02

a had ride Birdman? No reason

15:04

whatsoever. And yes, three games off,

15:06

A can't remember if it's proximate for his

15:08

birthday. unfounded about of it's his birthday. For.

15:12

Hours to renewed was at it as

15:14

a was there was a dentist Wilkerson

15:16

special I believe with my how is

15:18

that yeah it is because it is

15:20

easy to bow Berbers The Depths surrounds

15:22

himself with similar died Monday they let

15:24

like to have a sidelines I dunno

15:26

as you follow him on Instagram but

15:28

there was paid I'm not, I'm still

15:30

alive a party there and to be

15:32

Saroyan and that yeah I'm easy to

15:34

blame in a specific or survivor new

15:36

high question. cannot I got an Asa

15:38

thought if. The first go

15:40

that they score. On. The

15:42

Martin for that. Even even

15:45

amongst everything we say before

15:47

the markets about first call

15:49

was absolute top Not. As

15:52

an he says it. Out

15:54

sit sit another saves it is

15:56

it feels like he struggles with

15:58

tigers kinds of things. The as

16:00

or below when. Are you

16:02

probably kids it? But. The next

16:04

if you think it wonder at the time

16:06

that always gets to see subsequent these so

16:09

most of that's know helpful for that but

16:11

not yeah it's a good one I mean

16:13

nothing and on a service with the sea

16:15

and especially change the direction that needs I

16:18

don't like today. Couple of really excellent saves

16:20

I from the folly i forget who he

16:22

was of the corner the one to one

16:24

eighty bomb. The. One that hit

16:26

the ball as he gets as he gets it is

16:29

A at at Nc does snow. And

16:31

spotlight he sees mean apart from the

16:33

one he dived over, lost weight and

16:36

and maybe today smoke on Saturday I

16:38

you. To deflect it

16:40

was I just nothing to do about not

16:42

very big deflation. Yeah. They. Deflation.

16:45

Pull. Parker Special. That one says

16:48

yeah. Exactly Exactly that. Yeah.

16:51

Yes, Sussex I mean they call alley

16:53

seems last week as potentially having be

16:56

at the Tools that causes some problems

16:58

And and he did I he had

17:00

such as the right oh god he's

17:02

got the Pouncey it right? That's right.

17:04

the end to to bring It's really

17:06

all that the moment he skins. Absolutely.

17:10

Skins Casimir. I just recently passed the

17:12

My Runs posse Mckesson. Their eyesight, an

17:14

old man on these crises trying to

17:16

get back. and I do Right Nine

17:18

that quit. In. I was I just

17:20

had Omo quake I mean extra time as he

17:23

goes by Both seem saw the win that game

17:25

but you know gotten that we were trying to

17:27

do very well but they were both seem saw

17:29

them in the guy is what used as.with custom

17:31

arab as i did the back why the what

17:33

did you buy gives us to for was generally

17:35

kiss. I. Thought that. It

17:37

has some good bits yet age is

17:39

not my balls and said he did

17:41

he. yeah he did the right I'd

17:43

have no gonna get slight says. I

17:45

went very keen, had to dames it

17:47

center back in the and it was

17:49

he aware you say and we won

17:51

Three Nelson rely on may be highly

17:53

politicized I'm react and it doesn't work.

17:55

In the first game of the ninety

17:57

five seventy where he gets climbed over.

18:00

Corners staff and and the

18:02

As Rehman straight cigars, subscribing

18:04

sexy game. But. Nominees not

18:06

be as oversee those that moment is it says

18:08

it's it's highway, gets icy or he has less

18:11

to get school out out out. Why didn't. Have

18:13

a seat on there anything. Yeah, but

18:15

the distribution was good. Yeah,

18:18

shall abridge I was. well, I for one

18:21

hundred policies today and descent running and running.

18:23

Running and running. He's dragged through the cup

18:25

competition, drugs or three that Liverpool game and

18:27

distract us through this game. and it was

18:30

been nice to see better performances with him

18:32

or season, but it seems like he hasn't

18:34

really been given many songs to play his

18:36

best because of where he's been playing in.

18:39

the buy a ticket surrounded the playing. I.

18:42

Mean, I idea he. The.

18:44

I the appointed should be no.

18:46

No good team could have brews. I read

18:48

it but what would really like in a

18:51

good same. Yeah. I great. I

18:54

think Brunei are in a good team. I

18:56

would be much less frustrating cause he be

18:58

deployed in the right. Position.

19:01

Not. Sir as he was it has

19:03

been large parts of the season Deployed

19:06

behind Scott much dominate the number Ten

19:08

Lady Chris Am and ends and a

19:10

that vet a place around him that

19:12

guidance and right hundred positions define the

19:14

angles as he finds. Pockets is basically

19:16

do that constantly and send you a

19:19

nice went championship place. We had a

19:21

pick up on him. There. Of

19:23

course Now I mean I I have a

19:25

grudge with him at see that he wrecked

19:27

the rectify it but winning the tossing events.

19:29

And games. Kick seconds. Is

19:33

I've felt like a much more

19:35

egregious error them valve than than

19:37

although not bringing on for to.

19:41

Someone's life right away that was I don't I

19:43

The key to the wasn't decide who is how

19:45

Henderson the bringing on hand to said that like.

19:49

A disproportionate number of times that seen that

19:51

takes for us wins to the point where

19:53

there was so of. Mucking.

19:55

about was like was right there was a while

19:57

i say why the and i like that like

19:59

a top rated tennis serving because

20:02

he wasn't fair. Yeah, yeah. And

20:04

for it also for that penalty

20:06

shootout to go how it goes where it for

20:09

like seven times or whatever

20:11

it is six time seven

20:13

times you're kicking up from

20:15

behind and they scored. Yeah,

20:18

that was that was that was ridiculous behavior. But

20:20

what I liked about the penalty shootout what he

20:22

did this time was and I do think this

20:24

probably had an influence was him in another got

20:27

the needle going. And

20:29

that ups the pressure on them. And

20:31

in the end, you would expect

20:33

obviously there's the idea that the team that

20:37

the team that doesn't deserve to win wins

20:39

penalties, which I guess the sort of us

20:42

but also given the difference in

20:44

skill levels of the two players,

20:47

in theory, you would expect the site have done

20:49

this before a year ago, you have

20:51

better technique, you expect their technique to hold

20:53

up better under pressure if they've experienced the

20:55

pressure. And it's not like because

20:58

these guys, this is the moment that their lives, you're

21:00

never going back to this probably most of those

21:02

players ever again, yeah, should get through to the

21:04

cup final. And they go think about that.

21:08

And it felt like

21:10

the United players are just we're

21:13

just like they you would expect the better place

21:15

to have to have the ability to take good

21:18

penalties. Well, like a test of errors. That was

21:20

amazing. It was just it was Bernardo Silver's penalty

21:22

was exactly the same thing. The ball is there,

21:24

he goes early, he does the walk because he

21:26

obviously wants to get the walk done. But then

21:29

they keep the keeps in there for quite a

21:31

few minutes. He's walking away to the side, the

21:33

rest the rest given them instructions. So he's gone

21:35

too early. And then the keeper walks away and

21:38

obviously knows what he's doing. The rest games with

21:40

him, but the keeper knows that they

21:42

can't detect the penalty. And so he

21:44

said them that. Yeah, yeah. And then

21:46

they played with him. I thought they

21:48

tried to do it with Haji

21:51

right print penalty at the end. They were standing

21:53

on the spot. They were and

21:55

I got to put the knee and

21:57

or not a been booked for time wasted previously.

21:59

And then he I thought he might get himself

22:02

booked again for getting in the face of the

22:04

referee and the and the taker and Yeah,

22:07

they were trying to do some needle

22:09

during the during the penalty shootout as

22:11

well I mean, I don't know

22:13

for commentary is a free hit the whole time

22:16

Maybe up until the penalty shootout and then suddenly

22:18

the pressure is on isn't it? I United

22:23

that also was quite funny about not with

22:25

the penalty, but when they when they score

22:27

a lot of people fuck it off

22:30

I saw I

22:33

know people that did it. Yeah Didn't

22:36

wait for the bar. I bought a schoolboy error. That

22:38

is yeah I saw a friend of the show Andy

22:40

Green they get out and he got him he must

22:42

have got back He got back in because I saw

22:45

him come back and a couple

22:47

of other mates makes on there They

22:50

left didn't get back in Wow,

22:54

I did see that like everyone behind

22:56

ten hogs just disappeared Like it was

22:58

like the whole block just went gone.

23:02

Yeah, we should know now wait for the bar

23:04

So I thought they were desperately unlucky

23:06

like it with your eyes and

23:09

in real time. It doesn't look offside

23:11

It looks like no When it when

23:13

it went in and no point admit me any of

23:15

any of the big groups of us I was with

23:18

Go was outside. No, and it's basically the

23:20

size of his foot You know, it's just

23:22

like time these fractions off But that that's

23:24

the thing when you when you have the

23:27

when you have the ability to measure things

23:29

to that fine level of detail Which isn't

23:31

necessarily a finer level details. You might want

23:33

to know conclusively But whether when you can

23:36

measure things to that fine detail, it's always

23:38

gonna look like how on earth Can

23:41

you give that outside? But

23:43

you can't have that information

23:45

and go well, it's almost not

23:48

offside. No, no, it's binary self-sider I'm

23:51

sure that that would have been onside just

23:53

without vol. Yeah with a line. Oh,

23:55

that would be onside I don't care that that

23:58

kind of thing to happen that margin of error But,

24:01

yeah, I mean, I thought, I mean, I

24:03

didn't have a good view of it. It felt

24:05

like they got a bit lucky with the penalty

24:08

though, the three-all penalty. Yeah, it is his hand.

24:10

I mean, it's, he was very close to his

24:12

body to be called and he's

24:14

turning as well. So it's very close

24:16

to being natural silhouette. I mean, Jack

24:18

Grealish got away with one that was

24:20

more egregious. Did you see, I

24:23

didn't see that, but did you see the Ebenezer Forest

24:25

game? I didn't see it at all. So Ashley Young

24:28

just sticks his arm out and

24:30

you just, I don't know, let's see.

24:33

And I think I've been watching this

24:35

game for 42 years and

24:37

I don't think I understand the

24:39

laws anymore. No,

24:41

it was brilliant. If

24:44

the forest put that state without and they

24:46

go, yeah, we simply cannot

24:49

accept. Well, actually you can, because what else

24:51

are you going to do that? So apart

24:53

from accept, then they go, yeah,

24:55

we will. We warned Pickball that the VAR is

24:57

a Newton fan. The VAR is a Newton fan.

24:59

I mean, he's even written that before

25:01

the game, but they didn't change him. Hang

25:04

on. So you tell them,

25:06

and then this isn't how this works.

25:09

Our patience has been tested multiple

25:11

times. How fucking shrill is this?

25:14

Your patience has been tested multiple times.

25:17

No one cares about your patience. But

25:20

is this my orchus? Because it just seems

25:22

to be very driven, but I

25:24

wouldn't be surprised if he hasn't thrown that

25:27

statement in. It's so weird and

25:29

petty. And I mean, I know

25:31

after the three articles did it, what

25:33

options have you got? Why options? I

25:37

know. Quit lying. Hopefully,

25:39

I wouldn't have been upset about

25:42

countries like that fourth goal

25:45

being awarded. It's fractions.

25:47

It's sentiment. I mean, obviously, I want the United

25:49

to win so we can go through

25:51

and get beaten by City again. But

25:54

all the effort the country had done to get

25:57

back into that game, the pathetic nature of United

25:59

retreating and suddenly going into a long

26:01

a low block at halftime the way we

26:03

approached it after after the

26:05

third goal we deserved to lose basically I just couldn't

26:08

have complained about it and I couldn't have complained if

26:10

that goal had been a goal because it would have

26:12

been a goal at any point from like 1875

26:15

to like 2015

26:17

right and and now it's not and

26:19

then like far if you if you

26:22

play the old rules where any part

26:24

of the body is level it's level

26:26

then then the bar's still gotta like

26:29

you still got to draw a line somewhere

26:31

yeah it will still be it'll still be

26:34

fractions it feels like the whole body

26:38

might be too much advantage too

26:40

much advantage yeah then literally like you've got

26:43

yeah you can play behind the defender and

26:45

that doesn't that doesn't feel right but

26:49

it's funny like well I was a bit hitched in the second

26:51

half and I thought we were going to win it's just like

26:53

like slow with three levels thinking

26:56

what do we think's going to happen for the

26:58

final with the defenders so we reckoned they

27:01

were we rushed Martinez back just

27:03

in time for the final to get into

27:06

the end but we think no no we thought there

27:08

was time to rush to get Verand back and get

27:10

him injured again feels highly

27:13

achievable oh yeah

27:16

he'll come back yeah play a couple games

27:19

get injured Mr. Finder whereas Martinez feels more

27:21

like might start the final having not

27:23

played at all in that game should have came

27:25

to the mat and just get bullied he

27:27

takes a little while to get over

27:30

his rust as well Martinez it'd be

27:32

interesting to see if we've got any

27:34

defenders for the midweek game because Harry

27:36

McQuire was clearly unfit at the end

27:38

of that game and so was Scott

27:41

McTominay not those a defender and Rashford

27:43

yeah Willie Cramballa obviously not in the

27:45

squad today Lindelof not fit one

27:48

of the sackers was also like he

27:50

wasn't moving very freely at the

27:53

end there his brain isn't moving very free I

27:55

can tell you that imagine how

27:58

much Bruno despises these wankers He

28:00

must absolutely. I think

28:04

I might have stolen this off someone. I

28:06

can't remember who said it first, but you

28:08

know, it just resonated. It's the dumbest football

28:10

team in the country. They're just the IQ

28:12

of these players. And I think

28:14

I suspect the manager as well. It's really,

28:16

really low. They managed to get it wrong,

28:19

given whatever game state there

28:21

is. All the fucking

28:23

time. All of the time. And

28:25

the amount of stones they have

28:27

is zero. Except for

28:30

Bruno and Harry.

28:32

I don't think he's that bright, but he

28:35

has lots of heart. So

28:38

I think like stones, I mean,

28:40

I don't know how we're quantifying

28:42

or measuring, but individually,

28:46

there are players in that team who can do things.

28:48

And Rashford is one of them. I know that we

28:50

don't like how he's played this season. He is streaky

28:53

and all the rest of it. Yeah,

28:55

it's more about getting it all to

28:58

work together. Like there's a collective, and

29:00

this is also just part of the

29:02

sickness that afflicts the club all

29:05

the way through it. There's a collective,

29:07

it just doesn't work. I don't

29:09

look at this team particularly in like, there

29:11

are that many individuals in it that I

29:13

think are mentally weak. But

29:15

I think as a collective, they're mentally

29:17

weak. And it feels more like a

29:20

whole group thing rather than an

29:23

individual's thing. Yeah, I mean,

29:25

that may well be a fair assessment.

29:28

I mean, but at no point after commentary score

29:30

did, I think, oh, we'll be all right. We'll

29:32

see this out. I have to say, I thought

29:34

we'd score an extra time. I thought half an

29:36

hour against this. But then as the team sort

29:38

of depletes and depletes, I

29:41

don't have a clue how

29:43

Amari Forson is getting near it.

29:48

I haven't seen, I mean,

29:50

there was the little nice move for

29:52

the main new winner of Wolves. But

29:54

that aside, I feel like I've seen

29:56

nothing. No, I Mean, he's not. He is

29:58

of the sort of tech. Nicole slay the game

30:01

down tight there is not see to retain

30:03

hogtied own as as he's i mads as

30:05

he sanchez saw so I am as tight

30:07

as so am I showed signs when it

30:10

first came on my he was I mean

30:12

in the he he did he go I

30:14

guess he must he from tight schedule plasma

30:16

season. In one the butterflies in

30:18

the championship of whether he's much pass the championship

30:21

play or not we don't really know by So

30:23

either that or right when he first for he

30:25

first time on I guess we might be say

30:27

more than. What

30:30

a jam in it they came on for

30:32

I think on I said the other week

30:34

as as I mean by the ends in

30:36

extra time or seen it was of this

30:38

witness in the cup. Them Islam follows Weldon

30:40

Weights. We had Bruno as a deep lying

30:42

playmaker. For. San. Antonio.

30:46

Amat and Hoyland up front. To.

30:48

Have any other midfield this is now so

30:51

Aaron said. Taylor Erickson was playing so the

30:53

left side of the of the midfield sorry

30:55

so slow I raised. yeah I'll go. These

30:57

sell out here. Titles of Osama. Death.

31:02

Death. Death Penalty. But.

31:05

I'm not much else, but yet good.

31:07

pouncey. Talking about

31:09

the paddles is those funny? Just I

31:11

know there just has is unbelievable habit.

31:14

Of whatever the player does, he will.the

31:16

runway. I

31:18

forgot what nine and he thought was right. when I

31:20

know that it's because. It. Is also

31:23

my max in the dots. You keep you safe and

31:25

know is. Is.

31:28

Doctor. Not as nice as is describes. Posttraumatic.

31:31

Stress from the that are they say

31:34

to is that it does make sense

31:36

is like Ricardo balls has. Given.

31:38

Them Away have a the them. And. Saw

31:40

another so of that coin to keep her as

31:43

well. except. Is generally. Get.

31:45

Don't Get and I were there. Any of them. But.

31:48

For they did sex tape and agencies one was

31:50

net so they were. It was yeah we will.

31:52

It was a good save and it fell. Yeah

31:54

like he asserted himself in that suits out. Made.

31:57

a fast meditative unsigned put pressure on

31:59

the kicker And yeah, I

32:02

mean I have to do it against commentary, but

32:04

you've got to do what you've got to do

32:06

better than those embarrassing as losing to commentary No

32:09

one that was skied over. He's off. He's well

32:11

off his line By the

32:13

time the kick is taken and they show the replay

32:15

and I was like, oh this is just gonna be

32:17

They're just gonna take this one again. It's so

32:19

obviously He's miles

32:22

off his line and it should

32:24

have been really taken. Oh, they're the country

32:26

player I forget which one is in an absolute

32:28

state at that point anyway So I'm not sure

32:30

he'd been in a fit position to do it

32:33

again It reminded me a bit of

32:35

when Liverpool win the Mickey Mouse trouble in 2001

32:39

I think in the course of winning definitely the

32:41

League Cup Is it a struggle pass with him

32:43

and they beat is it Birmingham? They'd be on

32:45

penalties to win it something like that And

32:48

then they end up they'd be Alaves on

32:50

penalties as well But

32:52

again for European's I have the best

32:55

before you start with anything else Yeah,

32:59

I guess it fell a little bit like that but

33:01

it was actually What did

33:04

you make of the celebrations? Rasmus goes

33:06

bonkers because he knows he's won it and

33:08

he needed it And

33:10

none of the other United players did the

33:12

traditional run and pile on they just it

33:15

was just like it's like the end of a

33:17

friendly in July or something and and is that

33:19

because of Just embarrassed

33:21

they got over celebrate at that moment exhaustion

33:23

relief embarrassment I was at this point legging

33:25

it down went by the way and let

33:28

me tell you after an evening

33:30

in the disc Evening in the

33:32

discotheque. This is not a move not quick.

33:35

I mean, yeah, this is not yeah It's not

33:37

it's not ideal. I wouldn't I wouldn't say

33:39

who do you reckon's quicker quicker in the

33:42

straight line you or our friend? Casimir and

33:44

my boy. Yeah, I mean I I When

33:47

I I was I was always I'm renowned for

33:49

my pace I would say and not no change

33:51

of face like I know I wasn't like I

33:53

could run in the rocket Not run the races

33:55

at school, but like not that

33:57

was one of us. We had the LP teacher at

33:59

school One of the things he would

34:01

do with, where he was in Camden, so

34:03

running FX was just running around the track,

34:06

like the playgrounds, when the track printed on

34:08

it. He would take the hands

34:10

of the slow kids, who were often also

34:12

large kids, give him half a

34:14

lap head start, and then he'd stand there and

34:16

piss himself as everyone overtook them. I'm

34:22

not certain to get away with that now. But

34:24

the same kids where we

34:26

had swimming, where there's women

34:28

swimming teacher, and the pool

34:31

was usually quite cold. She would

34:33

always leave the fire doors open in the

34:35

winter, so that you have this

34:37

blast come in from the main road, and you'd

34:39

get out of the pool, and we'd all be

34:42

sitting there in our speedos on the side, on

34:44

the bench, and everyone had to get out of

34:46

the pool via themselves. Like you

34:48

had to leave yourself out, not allowed to use the

34:50

cord and not allowed to use the steps. So

34:53

we'd all be sitting on the bench apart from the

34:55

bigger kids, and I can

34:57

still hear the slap of flesh on

35:00

linoleum, as they go slop, slop, and

35:02

then slide back in. Q,

35:05

laughter, obviously. Oh,

35:07

dear. Yeah, I mean, it's

35:09

quite weird. It felt weird that this was a

35:11

mixed school, and this was, I don't know, the

35:15

person who was doing it was just this

35:17

unusual woman, I guess. It was kind of

35:20

quite weird, that dynamic of

35:22

a bunch of teenage boys sitting there in their

35:24

underwear, and being laughed

35:26

at by the teacher, I don't know. But

35:29

I wasn't slow like that, but

35:31

slow ones, I was on a football pitch with all

35:33

the people who could play sport. Yeah,

35:36

I didn't have much pace, but I did. Q,

35:38

Talking of slow, did you see Sir Jim running

35:40

the marathon? He ran the marathon and then went

35:42

to Wembley. It was pretty impressive,

35:45

he's 71 years old, and he wasn't

35:47

exactly rapid in the course, but I

35:49

can't remember what his time was. He

35:51

was four, 20-something last year. That's all

35:53

right. 38. That's a pretty

35:55

good time. Yeah. He was a 71-year-old. It was

35:57

a pretty good time anyway. an

36:00

amateur. But yeah, it's all that training Geraint Thomas

36:02

is giving him. I think his

36:05

face though was he was sat

36:07

next to that right face fucker Avram

36:09

Glazer and his face was

36:12

pretty joyous as United are winning 3-0 face

36:14

like fucking thunder. I have suspected he's going

36:16

to do baseball coach style run onto the

36:18

bitch and it's like you're out of there.

36:20

Buy him. Just stack 10 arg

36:22

on the spot. I mean, to be

36:24

honest, I'd have been totally out for that. I

36:27

was thinking about this and obviously if we lose you

36:29

have to fight him. But how

36:32

much of what I saw today was I

36:34

sitting there going this is totally the manager's

36:36

fault. In

36:39

some ways, I guess not that much. We

36:42

were 3-0 up. He made some

36:44

changes. And

36:46

as I said, like on the one hand, you could

36:48

be like, no game could possibly be in the bag

36:50

with these idiots. So never do that.

36:53

Or you need to rest these players

36:55

because yeah, some of them are

36:57

looking like they might get hurt. So

37:00

you need to make sure. And then so if

37:03

we say that the substitutions were reasonable in

37:05

the circumstances, which I don't think is a

37:07

reach, then what happened

37:09

after that? How much

37:11

of that is his fault? And it doesn't

37:14

feel like that much of that was his

37:16

fault. That feels more like that's just the

37:18

malaise that exists that it's taking. That

37:21

would take a lot of time and a lot of signings

37:23

and a lot of sales to get rid of. And

37:27

it's a job that has only just

37:29

been started. Well,

37:31

I think that's all a fair observation.

37:33

One of the things I'd say is

37:36

the way United play is

37:38

not by accident. This is what Tenhar

37:40

wants. He wants United to play in

37:44

a deep block and fast, vertical,

37:46

direct football up into the wings

37:49

and committing players forward. And the chaos that

37:51

we've seen is by design, not

37:53

by accident. So that's all I'd say. And we

37:55

saw some of it today. Big

37:58

picture. I agree. I

38:00

don't see him as someone who's going to be

38:02

able to do the necessary. I'd

38:04

keep him if the alternative was

38:07

Southgate or Potter, probably. Definitely, definitely more

38:09

talking about. If there was someone good,

38:11

I'd get rid of him. But

38:15

I just, I didn't, all the things that

38:17

are wrong with this team in the way

38:19

that we play didn't feel like the reason

38:21

we contrived to toss in three goals against

38:23

Coventry. It felt much

38:26

more like the ability to

38:29

embrace catastrophe that

38:32

is ingrained in some of the

38:34

players as individuals and in the

38:37

team as a whole and throughout the club. And

38:44

that's why I saw that. You're not being

38:46

10 hard guys. Like,

38:49

because they were, okay, unfair comparison

38:51

times, but there were times during

38:53

Fergie's time at United when he

38:56

had a crap team and he managed to get more than

38:58

some of the parts. And it just feels like 10 hard

39:01

is consistently getting less than the sum of

39:03

the parts at this player, these players. And

39:05

maybe I'm great being unfair and these players

39:08

are not as good as I think they

39:10

are, but they certainly earn the fucking wages

39:12

and United paid the price for them to

39:15

be good players,

39:17

top four quality-ish

39:20

players, and they consistently underperform that. And

39:22

that, in a macro sense, feels like

39:24

that's on 10 hard. No, I agree.

39:26

I agree. Enough

39:30

of what we see is his fault despite

39:33

all the ill luck. The

39:37

reason is partly it shouldn't be this bad in

39:39

any situation, as bad as it has been at

39:41

times. But also, I

39:43

don't feel like I believe in the end point. And

39:46

I definitely don't know that that makes

39:49

me think that he should probably be

39:51

fired. But if the

39:53

alternative is idiots, then

39:55

I would prefer

39:58

someone... to tell

40:00

someone above him to tell him you

40:03

can keep the job but you need

40:05

to find a solution to this. These

40:08

very specific fuckers of vacating

40:10

midfield and giving away all these chances

40:13

and having no control in games. And

40:16

yeah, the answer can't have better players, although

40:18

that is a big part of the answer.

40:20

It means we definitely need feels like we need

40:22

two midfield players in the summer, because if we

40:24

get one, one injury or suspension, we're

40:27

back to the same bullshit. So two midfield

40:29

players. Well, plus Ericsson is

40:31

going to leave and Ann-Rabbat will

40:33

not be retained. So I mean,

40:36

that's two midfielders right there before

40:38

you even think about Kessamiro and

40:41

Muxalmenet. I mean, low key. I

40:43

was thinking Ann-Rabbat is a hilarious

40:45

chapter in this litany of disaster,

40:47

but I can't

40:49

like I feel like Mason Mountsees in this

40:52

prison because we think we get

40:54

him for a bargain

40:56

because he's got a year left. But really, we

40:58

overpay for him given he's got a year left.

41:00

We get him, he does almost

41:02

nothing. And by the

41:04

time he's actually any use to us, we're probably going

41:07

to have signed at least one player, maybe two players

41:09

to go in positions he

41:11

can't go in. And we could have had him

41:13

for free. Yeah, yeah. That's

41:16

the middle of the vignette. And there's

41:19

more hill luck there. There's as much hill

41:21

luck there as bad judgment, the bad judgment

41:23

being buying him and whatever.

41:25

But it's just in such

41:28

a beautiful vignette of... Of the unitingness.

41:31

...the wheels of his ears. It

41:35

really is. And Tenharg moans before

41:37

the game. I mean, after the

41:39

game, he was like, I

41:42

have to say it was

41:44

almost like Tenharg blindness. He

41:47

was basically saying we played pretty well

41:50

and it was a shame to

41:52

give it away, but we sort of deserved

41:54

it. I might be paraphrasing in the wrong

41:56

way. Before the game, he was complaining about

41:58

injuries and saying I'd not have any

42:00

luck. I've only been able to play

42:02

my full team once against my chesticity

42:04

last year, except I

42:06

keep getting non-contact

42:09

muscle injuries over and

42:11

over. 62 separate occasions

42:13

this season. Now

42:16

some of those are contact injuries and some

42:19

of those are illnesses, right? So it's not

42:21

all of them, but it's

42:24

just incredible. And I can't

42:26

help but think he's clogging the fuck out

42:28

of them, both in terms of the

42:30

number of games that his core set of players play because

42:32

he doesn't trust the rest of them. And

42:35

rightly so, in some cases. But

42:38

also in training, I think back to

42:40

after the United lost to Brentford and they'd

42:42

run 13.7 kilometres more

42:44

than us and he made them go and

42:46

run that 13 kilometres. At the time we

42:48

were all like, yeah, stick out

42:50

those fuckers, they deserve it. And

42:52

this will set them right. I

42:55

just wonder whether that wasn't the portend of bad

42:57

kinks to come and he's just literally flogged them

42:59

on the training page for two years and that's

43:01

why they're all dropping dead. It's

43:04

hard, not hard, it's impossible

43:06

to speak with any authority

43:08

on the subject. But we

43:10

can agree that it looks

43:12

sus, that it feels unusual

43:15

and so it feels legitimate to ask

43:17

questions. But all we can really do

43:19

is hope that if someone, and you

43:21

feel internally, they will be asking these

43:23

questions for sure. I'm

43:25

sure he even he hinted it and said they

43:28

think they know the answer. It

43:30

doesn't appear to be that they're actually doing anything. The truth

43:32

is it. Well,

43:41

that makes as much sense as anything. All right,

43:43

shall we leave it there? And we've got

43:45

a game on Wednesday night. One more thing.

43:47

I met someone at the game

43:50

today who listens to the pod. So thank

43:52

you, Daniel. We appreciate the support. And he

43:54

said to me, what's going on with the car? Ah,

43:57

you're in a car update. Come on, you've got to. I

44:00

do have a car update. So

44:03

I had the people coming to pick up

44:06

my return to the lease car that I'm returning

44:08

on Friday. So I saw that

44:10

I got the breakdown round. They turn off, get

44:13

them to turn off the engine light. The

44:15

engine light goes off, I know it's going to behave itself because

44:18

I know you now you get a few drives out of it

44:20

till it comes back on and so on and gone. Beautiful. I've

44:22

obviously had all the stuff sorted out

44:24

on the car, which I didn't realise

44:27

I could have got done for less by

44:29

the actual garage, by the actual lease people. But

44:31

anyway, the first time they came to do it

44:34

and the engine light came on, the guy was a really nice

44:36

guy. I was pissing it down with rain. So

44:38

really hard to see stuff. And

44:40

he was willing to be reasonable because he talks about

44:42

it. And he's like, I'll be reasonable but some people

44:44

won't. I know immediately this

44:46

time, it's not pissing it down with rain,

44:48

this guy is a stickler. And

44:52

before we were like 10, 20

44:55

yards away from the car, and he already used

44:57

to tell me that the paint job has not been done

44:59

by a painter. I've had it painted to get rid of

45:01

scratches or whatever. And it's not done well.

45:04

And obviously you're thinking, thank you, I'm reasonable. And

45:06

he goes around with this piece of card, like

45:08

reflecting, because it turns out has to be it can't

45:11

be done yet. So the other way of doing it

45:13

is you have to, if you can see your face

45:15

in the side of the car, then the

45:17

car work, then that's what it needs to be. And

45:20

it was so clear that this had not

45:22

been done on any of the

45:24

work I'd had done. So and

45:26

then he goes, right,

45:28

you're looking either you need to go back

45:31

to your place and

45:33

tell them to do it again, or cost

45:35

you about 1500 for us to do

45:37

it. And at

45:39

that point, I'm thinking, well, I need to give this

45:41

car back. And so I really feel like

45:43

I have an option of take I don't feel

45:45

like I've got an option of taking it back to them. This is like

45:47

another 1500 quid. And then he looks at

45:50

the MIT certificate

45:52

that I've had done by my same

45:54

garage and on the MIT certificate. It

45:57

says there's been a recall on the car and I have

45:59

to take it back to Volvo for free

46:01

service and this is obviously

46:03

the reasons for the engine situation. The engine light

46:05

that keeps coming on and the engine light saved

46:07

me because it meant

46:11

that he couldn't take the car away because of

46:13

this MAT situation. Right and you could

46:15

take it back to the paint zone. I'm now taking it

46:17

in for a service and they're not doing it till May,

46:19

then the May and I've

46:21

got till then to get my guys to sort it out.

46:25

Wow, you can do that yourself. I've got

46:27

a rotary polisher. Yeah,

46:30

I repainted the back of my Maserati. So

46:32

yeah, you can do it. I did make

46:35

a couple of mistakes but I sort it

46:37

out in the end. Yeah, learn on the

46:39

job. I would come

46:41

back with fewer limbs than I started with I

46:43

think. All

46:46

right, how many limbs will be on

46:48

the pitch when United inevitably lose to

46:50

Sheffield United on Wednesday night? How

46:53

many limbs have we got fit because it's not many. So

46:57

I'm thinking of today, so we

46:59

already had Martial Evans,

47:01

Martinez, Shaw, Mount Verran, Molassia and Lindelof

47:03

engine. None of them are going to

47:05

be back and we've also got Rashford

47:07

McGuire and Juan Basaca all

47:09

looks like and McSulmonay was limping through the

47:12

mix zone apparently. There's not a lot left

47:14

in the squad. It's possible he didn't want

47:16

to talk to any of the press I

47:18

guess. There is that. It's normally headphones on

47:20

they pretend they got a call. So rather

47:23

than my dad used to have this trick,

47:25

don't suppose he does that anymore now he's

47:27

old but if he was trying to cross

47:29

the road or he wanted to make

47:31

a car like the M walk he'd start limping. Nice,

47:37

since we're on limping in cars in

47:40

Washington State if a pedestrian is trying to

47:42

cross the road you have to stop for

47:44

them and it still freaks me

47:47

out right now when cars stop in the middle

47:49

of the road. I'm like

47:51

what they do? What's going on? That feels

47:53

quite dangerous if people shunting each other. You'd

47:57

think so, yeah, but I don't know. common

48:00

practice. I

48:02

spent a good many

48:05

years in London, know

48:07

that what you do when you want to cross the road is

48:09

walk out in front of the car and see

48:11

and play chicken with them and see whether they'll actually

48:13

stop for you or not. Sheffield

48:24

United, Wednesday

48:26

night. What the fuck are we going

48:28

to see? I mean, I think that's

48:31

got disaster written all over it. I know

48:33

they're terrible, but we're unfit,

48:35

just played a game, have no

48:37

players. 120 minutes, big emotional dump.

48:40

120 minutes, big emotional dump.

48:42

When they scored the

48:44

goal that we thought was the winner, the

48:47

United bodies strewn everywhere. The only

48:49

thing that I can compare it

48:51

to pretty much is Bayern players

48:54

at the end of the final. Just

48:56

like, bodies prostrate,

49:00

prostrate, prostrate everywhere

49:02

and prostate. And

49:07

just like that, emotional dump, even though they

49:09

go away with it at the end, they'll

49:11

be embarrassed about what went

49:14

down this day.

49:16

And they'll stick with them

49:18

for a bit. And they

49:21

may perform against the craps

49:23

here in midweek or they may just do

49:25

what they do. I

49:28

mean, they are truly crap,

49:30

Sheffield United. They

49:32

didn't get a new manager bounce when they

49:34

brought back Wilder. I mean, that's

49:36

just like, have they had any decent results recently?

49:38

I'm just looking through there, they got

49:41

spanked by Burnley, they got spanked by

49:43

Brentford. They did get a draw with

49:45

Chelsea. Not sure

49:47

that says much. They haven't

49:49

won a game since they

49:51

beat Luton in February. What

49:53

odds would

49:55

they be on them beating United? I

50:00

don't think they've got it in them. But

50:03

I mean, we need to

50:05

want to see United 11 I guess. Yeah.

50:09

Well the thing is, it's hard with the only

50:11

game that matters now for the rest of the

50:13

season because it's not going to catch Villa. And

50:17

it doesn't look like the Premier League is going to get that

50:19

fifth spot now. Still

50:22

childish. Yes.

50:27

So the only game that matters is the Cup Final. So

50:30

we've got a month and a few

50:32

days until the Cup Final. And

50:35

none of the games count really between

50:37

there. So does this team all play for a

50:39

place in the Cup Final or do they behave

50:41

like dickheads and lose a bunch of games? Well

50:43

I think it's where you're trying, as a manager,

50:45

you're trying to get them to that game. Like

50:48

fit, you try to get to that game

50:50

with everyone fit but also in rhythm.

50:54

And doing that without risking injury is

50:57

difficult. And the players also know that they've got a

50:59

Cup Final and most of them have got the Euros

51:01

coming up as well. Like

51:05

busting your arse, tiring yourself out,

51:07

risking injuries for these nonsense

51:09

is quite probably

51:12

going to be, some of them will

51:14

probably need some convincing to do all themselves. I

51:17

mean I feel like the

51:21

old school dad in me

51:23

is going to be disgusting. They've

51:26

got a playing field out here. But

51:29

the more

51:31

sensible human being in me is just, well

51:34

of course, something has

51:36

to give and why would it not

51:38

be the bullshit that doesn't mean anything. That

51:41

doesn't mean I trust the players to

51:43

nurse themselves through this so that they

51:46

are raring to go in peak form

51:48

and fitness against City, nothing of the

51:50

sort. But I would totally understand if they

51:52

were trying to. Yeah, yeah. Well,

51:56

it's Chef O'Unaid, Burnley, both

51:59

at home. and clearly I

52:01

should win those games. Palace away,

52:03

Palace has just scored five today,

52:06

which was weird. But then

52:08

Arsenal, Newcastle and Brighton to finish the season

52:10

off and that has got not great rhythm

52:12

going into the Cup Final written all over

52:14

it, that has. That's the

52:17

come. Alright, we'll leave it there. Thank

52:19

you very much people for putting out with

52:21

us. You can catch us on our YouTube

52:24

channel where we're doing the few dailies during

52:26

the week, picking out some topics, 15 minutes

52:29

or so a day. You can

52:31

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52:34

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52:36

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52:38

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52:41

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52:44

we'll catch you in the midweek. Thanks a

52:46

lot.

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