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to what we have to say in this edition

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of Triple Take about edge rushers.

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Man, this was a fun evaluation and

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there's a lot of these guys, uh

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Man. I guess just a natural evolution.

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If college football they're just gonna throw

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it all over the yard, then you're gonna rush the passer

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and figure out ways to do At football,

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defenses are figuring out how to rush

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the pass or off the edge. Yeah, and

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we did the defensive tackle Triple Take

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and you mentioned, boy, how freaky

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those guys are and you just watch a combine.

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Well, this group takes it up to another level.

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And I think this is the strongest position

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in the entire draft. And to be

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honest, I think there's eight edge guys

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that are gonna deserve first round

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consideration, and five of them might

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even go in the first half of the first round. Yeah,

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this is a crazy talented position

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this year. And and a lot of times

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you see these guys and we've had the

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kind of project. Well he has he he

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has all these measurables, but he didn't have the

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the production we've seen

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some of those guys in recent years. These

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guys both had the just

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ridiculous they

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displayed at the combine and

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also had a lot of production in college.

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So it's it's a really fun evaluation.

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And it wouldn't surprise me not having seen your

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guys list before we we've done this, um

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the list that you two put together. If we have

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about we mentioned about eight guys, as

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Matt mentioned in in this talk, in our each

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of our top five year. Yeah, it's

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and and they're really fun to uh

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watch the highlights and the way these

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guys play with the energy and the

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amazing closing speed and

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aggression that they display. Uh.

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A lot of teams are gonna get get fat on

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defense in this draft. It's a good year to

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Nita pass Rushier. Matt. Let's start

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with you because you and I have the

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same number five. Uh.

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Georgia guy once removed

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Jermaine Johnson, the second of Florida

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State who left Georgia and then blew

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it up for Florida State in the A c

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C. I could see watching that Georgia

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defense why he left and went somewhere else.

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But boy, he played with the Georgia

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defender type of dominance

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and production and impact.

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This year it didn't he Yeah, And I don't hold

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it transfer against him at all. I mean, considering

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the team he left, the defense he left.

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He was a dominant player for Florida State

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this year. He may have been the best player

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at the Senior Bowl. He's long,

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he's thick, he's very physical.

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He's already a great run defender.

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I mean he puts his hands on you and really stuns

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you, but can also run around you. A

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lot of energy, a lot of physicality

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from Johnson. And you've got Treyvon

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Walker of GEI Yeah,

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he's one of the guys that kind of forced Jermaine Johnson

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to to transfer and and Trayvon Walker

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uh two hundred seventy two

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pounds at the NFL scouting combine

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ran a four five. I mean

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that's just unheard of. Uh. You

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know, he had sacks in both the college playoff

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games last season and wins over Michigan

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and Alabama. You know, so that that's

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production against high level competition,

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and that

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would be Michigan, Mike, Yeah,

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I just I thought you might have forgotten about

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that. But he's big enough to take

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on tackles in the run game, but he's

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fast enough to beat them around the edge. He just turned

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twenty one in December, which I think

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matters. I mean, this is still a young, ascending player.

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And you know, you have it's it's a nice

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marriage of skill and

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in athleticism. And you've

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got Dale, You've got Jermaine Johnson. Number

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four, Matt, you went with David

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A. Jabo of Michigan, the uh

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guy from what is it Nigeria Villa Scotland.

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I forget his path exactly. That's the one

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that's it. That's it, that is and

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real quick, I'm gonna I have Trayvon Walker

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three, who Dale just talked about, and

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the Jabo and Walker to me, I

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don't know what they don't know yet. I mean as

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terms of pass rushers, they don't

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have really any plan. They just

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kind of come off the ball and are a better athlete

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than those around them and still make all

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kinds of plays. And Ojabo

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is very raw and reminds me a

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lot of oh Way from

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Penn State who went to the Ravens at the end of the for round,

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except he had yeah,

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right, like seven four. He's got all

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the traits, but he also produced

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for in the Big ten where oh wait,

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didn't um again. Very flexible,

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all sorts of multiple clay here and he plays

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hard. Yeah. He had two two

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and a half sacks against Wisconsin last year.

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You know, Wisconsin is known for their offensive lineman.

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He had to two sacks eaching games against

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Michigan State and Penn

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State last year. I mean that that's high

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level production against against well, some

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of those are pretty good teams. Yeah, I've

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got George carl Off to superdue

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is my number four. Uh. This guy, this

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guy impresses me with athleticism

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and with power. He can you can you can

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walk the blocker back into the quarterback, actually

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shove him back into the quarterback. He can win

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with speed rush. Uh made a lot

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of really reactionary plays,

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tip picks and blocking kicks and athletic

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type of things, a little bit of a history of

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past rush superdue. So I went with

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him there. And now you guys can tell me where I'm

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wrong here, because I've been listening

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since mid season about

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how Aidan Hutchinson is maybe

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the first overall pick, and uh, he's at

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least the first or second overall

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pick. And uh, he's the best this, and

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he's the best at He's a highmar Trophy runner

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up guy, and I ain't

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seen it. I'm not saying that he is not

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a very good player in a group of

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very good players. But I almost put him three

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on my list just on principle. Uh,

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you know, great game against Ohio State, three

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sacks and that was Michigan's biggest win

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in ten years. But I

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see him as one of many not heading shoulders

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above Matt What am I not seeing? No? Agree,

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It doesn't shock me that you'd say that considering

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his on the mater, But I feel the same

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way that serious I'm down the middle on that. I

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mean, I was, I was banging

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the Devin Bus term a couple of years ago. If I

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see a player, I see a player. But I just maybe

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I heard one too many times how great this guy is. I

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don't know. I just it seems like he got anointed,

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and that's everybody's story and they're sticking to it.

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Yeah, honestly, I have him closer

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to Jermaine Johnson or car

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Loft this than I do the clear number

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one, even though he is number one on my board,

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and again, this class is awesome, but

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he's not Chase Young or a Bosa brother

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or Miles Garrett. Um.

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Yeah, I think he's a very good player.

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I think he's safety player. I'm

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not. I didn't come here. Yeah,

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I didn't come in to bury him, but I just to

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me, he's one of many, not but one

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and then everybody else. That's this

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entire draft, though, guys, is it not. I mean, you know,

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we're still talking about who the number one overall pick

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is going to be because there's not a clear cut number

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one guy. The one thing I'll say about

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Aiden Hutchinson that really stood

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out to me was his six seven three

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uh three cone drill at the NFL Scouting

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Combine. It's the third fascist for any

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player to combine for

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any player not not defensive

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lineman or edge guys, any player

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six seventh three is special. M his

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first ten yards are really good. In the forty two he

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has he does have some burst and things

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like that for sure. UM a

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little bit short armed, he can play a little high.

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He's a really good prospect. But I'm with you, Mike, I

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don't think he's a special prospect. Yeah, so

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I kind of put him three just to just to put them

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three. I've got I've got Cavon

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Thibodeau from Oregon is my number

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two. Uh, Dale, you've got the

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same guy number two, and Matt, you've got the same guy

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number two. And it seemed like

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it made a little bit of a ruffle

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when he ran at the combine but didn't work

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out. But man, I think this guy's

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really, really good. And one

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of the reasons they said he didn't work out at the combine

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is he wants to do the linebacker

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drills and the defensive line drills at

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Oregon's pro day. This guy could be an outside

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linebacker dropping back, or he could be an edge

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rusher. Yeah. I mean, I

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mean that's that's really all these guys if

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you look at them, because of the size that they had, there

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aren't any There aren't any of these two forty

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pound guys here. These guys are all two fifty plus.

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Uh TOI those two fifty four. Uh,

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there's a lot of upside there. He just turned twenty

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one in December, so again you're getting

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a guy who is still

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ascending as a player. And Mike,

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to your point, I think he's best, you

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know, playing out a two point stands, you know, sort of

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a Steeler outside linebacker type. Yeah.

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And I brought that up because I mean, Hutchinson, you're not gonna

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have him dropping back. He's

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coming off to you. He's going forward, not backward.

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Uh My Number one, you guys supposed to have

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Hutchinson. I picked

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Treyvon Walker. And here's why I did it. UHDL

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you mentioned the ridiculous time in the forty

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Here's what Daniel Jeremiah

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had to say about him during the combine

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quote. A creative defensive coordinator

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is gonna look at Treyvon Walker and say the

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world has completely opened up. You

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can play him inside, outside, you

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can rush him, drop him, you can play him

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on the ball, off the ball. You want to be able

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to give quarterbacks different looks and not show your

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hand. A chess piece like that allows

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you to play that way. I'm

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in Yeah, I don't disagree

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with it, But to you guys point earlier,

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I mean, the difference between number

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one and number five in this group really

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not much, not much

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at all. I mean, these guys are all first round

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guys and probably top

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fifteen to eight team pick guys. I

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mean, that's what we're talking about here. They're gonna go

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quick. Yeah, yeah, it's it's

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it is the uh. I

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guess we're all agree with the strength position

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of what is very very deep draft

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without you know, forget that there's not that marquee

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quarterback guy. There's a lot of talent to be had.

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Absolutely. I just think that, you know that.

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I think defensively, this draft

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is maybe a little bit of a game changer. Might

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not have the star power of some previous drafts,

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but you're gonna be getting guys and you know, into the

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third and fourth rounds who have an

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opportunity to come in and start right away for a

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lot of teams. Yeah, Predicting

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who next year's defensive Rookie of the Year is gonna

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be Is oh Man select

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with that he used to be. You comes in the

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league, I who win it? You know? Likewise,

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it would be the same way for the offensive Rookie of the Year

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because there's no quarterback. Yeah,

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are you guys sure they haven't given that defensive

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award to Hutchinson yet? Pretty

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sure? Yeah?

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He probably will learn if that's gonna do it for our

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