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Hello everyone, and welcome to another
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edition of the NFL Draft Triple
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Take, presented by up MC
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Mike Pursuda along with Dale Lawley and
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Matt Williamson. We're getting you ready for
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the upcoming NFL Draft, and we're gonna
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do things a little bit differently for
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this edition of the Triple Take. We've been
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throwing out some mocks of round
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one. I believe we're up to three of those
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so far. Yeah, if I haven't lost
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count. But today we're gonna do something
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a little bit different. Dale is
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at the controls of the Pro
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Football Focus mock simulator,
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and we're gonna try to recreate
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a draft room and we're gonna go through the first
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three rounds and put our heads together
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and come up with picks for the Steelers.
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Now, these are our picks.
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It's gonna be our consensus what we
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decide. It's not any
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more of.
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The war room.
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None of us are going to jump on the table. We
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might pound on them.
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Take my shoe off. There we go,
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Google of kids. You know what I'm talking about.
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Man, I'm sure you could agree having been in a draft
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room. This is very much oh the way it's
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gonna go down.
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Spot on yeah, exactly the process. I
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do think it's noteworthy.
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Folks.
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We got four picks, so we got twenty fifty, one,
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eighty four, and ninety eight. So after
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some trades and wheeling deal and they got you know, two
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third rounders, we might do a little bit more and who knows.
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Yeah, we'll open to trades and listening
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to offers and all that kod stuff.
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I'm eagerly anticipating how this
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plays out, so I want to get it started.
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Lead us off, all right, So I've already run the first
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nineteen picks. The three quarterbacks
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scale, William Shade and Daniels Drake may all
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go one, two, three, JJ
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McCarthy, your favorite player goes at
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six to the Giants. Uh so
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we do have four quarterbacks in those top
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six picks. That is
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good news for the Steelers. If you're sitting here playing
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along at home, you want those quarterbacks to
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go because the Steelers won't be in the quarterback markets
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no more quarterbacks though before our pick
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here for sure that I'm just saying.
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It's an interesting it has been
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that it has been that. So right before us
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at fifteen, Rock Bauers finally
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goes to the Colts.
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You have.
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Byron Murphy, the defensive lineman
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from Texas, goes at sixteen to
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the Seahawks. Quinyam Mitchell goes at seventeen,
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cornerback out of Toledo to Seattle.
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At eighteen, the Bengals take JC
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Latham. If I'm the Steelers
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and Latham starts to slide that that far, I
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might be on the phone with Seattle and saying, hey,
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can we do something here to go get this guy?
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Do we think he is the best
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right tackle? I do?
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I do. I mean, it depends what you're looking for.
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I mean, if you just want to run behind a guy on
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fourth and one and mash people that he
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is the guy. Yeah,
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I think he's I think he might be the best tackle, period.
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To be honest with you, I mean I think it's a debate.
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Yeah, I think that's certainly within reason.
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Then you look a lot of tackles.
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Yeah, you look at nineteen. Brian Thomas,
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the wide receiver out of LSU, goes
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to the Rams, putting the Steelers on the
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clock. Here some of those top players
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still available. Johnny Newton, defensive
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tackle from Illinois, doesn't really fit the
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Steelers defense. He's a little shorter, Cooper
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Dejene is still available there, Lady
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too. Latu is also available.
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Nate Wiggins, Amarius Mims, Cooley
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mckinstree, Jackson Powers, Johnson Graham
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Barton.
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Well, if you guys were with me for our mock
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three point zero and you were, you
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already know who's getting my vote here.
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Yeah, we do have three trade offers, Mike, So
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let's take a look at these and see whether we want
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to consider those or not. The Arizona
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Cardinals are on the phone with pick number twenty seven,
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that's where their next pick is at. Then you have Jacksonville
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pick forty eight, and the Rams
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at pick fifty two. I don't think we want to move out
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of the first round though.
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Guys, I don't think we're going to go that far back. Yeah, acquire
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future first and things like that. That doesn't make
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for the best video here.
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Let's take a look and see what the Cardinals might be offering
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us here, though.
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Can we come up with five to seven names
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that were comfortable with at twenty seven? I
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think I can.
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I think we can.
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Uh.
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So they have Arizona's Houston's
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number twenty seven pick. Obviously
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they want to come up and get twenty. If we want
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to do that, they're gonna have to kick in
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some stuff. They do have pick thirty five. They're probably
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not going to.
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Give us that.
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Uh, but if they they would give us sixty
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six.
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For sure.
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If we move back to those seven spots, you
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can get more than that. I think we can get more than that.
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There's a sixty seven percent perchance, a
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percent chance that if we made that move we could
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do that. Can
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we get maybe ninety out of them as well?
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Probably?
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No, it doesn't look like about to do.
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Thinkure third from a team that might not have a lot
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of wins next year. I like my future picks.
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He's a big future guy. Yeah, that's what he
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likes to do.
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I'm in the win now mentellity.
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I hear I say picked the center.
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You guys figure out he might still be there though he
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could still him. I got
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you, I got you. I like the roll the dice.
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If we go for the future round four pick,
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we can get twenty seven sixty six
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in Arizona's fourth round pick next
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year. For twenty there's
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a fifty percent chance that gets accepted.
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Off for trade.
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They accepted it.
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There we go.
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We're
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all right. So I mean, we got a lot of draft capital.
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I like having draft capital,
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additional draft capital next year because
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if you've paid attention to the
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mock drafts and stuff, next
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year's draft is supposedly much deeper because
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all those kids that stayed in college because
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of the the COVID rules are all going to
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flood into next year's drafts. And next year's draft could
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be ridiculously deep, but.
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It's not deeper a tackle or wide receivers probably
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not take that bet.
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All right, thosees
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fell, So the six guys that went
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ahead of our picture before in between our picks
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there, So Arizona came up to get.
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Lost late too.
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Okay, it doesn't hurt us.
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Tyler Geiiton went at twenty one, Nate
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Wiggans goes at twenty two, bow Knicks at
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twenty three to Minnesota, Amarius
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Mims goes at twenty four to the Cowboys,
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Graham Barton twenty five to
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the Packers, Chop Robinson
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at twenty six to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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And there's a center from War there
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guys as as Cooper Degen.
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Though let's take the center for War.
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I understand that's with it. Yeah, I'm I with
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that, but we we've.
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Now had that extra pick floating around that could be
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a tackle or something fringe benefit there.
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Yeah, so do it official Jackson
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Powers Johnson is the pick at twenty seven. Now
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we're back up at fifty one, and it's
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this is why that you know you might want
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to do a move like that, because you know you start looking
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at some of those guys. Zach Frasier, the other
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top center in this traft, goes at thirty
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nine to Carolina. There's kind of like
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a no man's land there between the Steelers first
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pick and that second round pick. Another
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guy at Kingsley, Sue Mattia at forty one.
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Mike Sandastril at forty two. Who's
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a really good nickel corner that
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you might be interested in there if you're the Steelers. Jordan
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Morgan, another one of the offensive tackles, goes
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as well in that in that no man's
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land, that pick forty five, you're guy. Peyton
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Wilson goes to the Bengals at forty nine. I
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know he's your guy, Troy Franklin.
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There are guys every draft you
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got your sure, yeah, there's one or
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two that jump out at you. You just met that Bake
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Wilson's that guy for me.
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So we're back up here now at fifty one.
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I'm not thrilled to Troy Franklin went to pick ahead
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of us. No, all the draft capital we had, I
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would have loved to get to forty eight or forty nine and
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snagged him.
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So the guy's still available here, Braden
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Fisk, Michael Pennix.
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It's an interesting players roll. Javon
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Bullard, Ricky Piarsow, the wide receiver
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out of Florida.
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Tackles were basically gone at this point.
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Dice, Isaac, I think the
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guys that you would consider at this at this
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spot are probably gone. Yale offensive
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tackle, the DJ I
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did never get that one. Blake Fisher still there,
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Patrick Paul More third round.
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Just guys, it.
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Works out this way as pro football focuses,
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MOUK simulators suggest it will, I'm
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gonna go with the receiver from Florida.
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Well, let's take it. Look at the receivers are pretty heavy.
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You got Ricky Pierre, Saw, Jermaine Burton, Jalen
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Polk, Jalen McMillan, Donte
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Devontees Walkers On Baker.
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Right after we draft him. I'm gonna give him the
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phone number of the traveling secretary,
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and then I'm gonna say, Ricky, don't lose that
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number.
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Yeah, I mean Roman. Roman Wilson is
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another guy that would have been interesting there. Out
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of Michigan he went, He
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went at forty eight to Jacksonville. Pennix
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would be at this point interesting.
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But not. I don't know that's
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going to contribute to win.
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Now, true quickly, true, But neither
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one of your quarterbacks are under contract for
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twenty twenty five.
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I mean, frankly, I think he's gonna go earlier than this.
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I do too.
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I think that's kind of cheating.
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Yeah, And I also think you want to get
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Justin Fields and the new guys as many reps as
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you possibly can in camp, and you don't want
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to spread that, you know, labor around,
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So I think we pass on Pennix. Yeah.
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I think the receiver is
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probably the guy who's just throwing that.
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I like Burton from Alabama quite a bit too. Stuff.
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Oh yeah, yeah, I had back, can't down
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the scene. Yeah, yeah, let's not
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overthink it.
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No, Okay, Ricky Pearsall
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is the pick. Look back up again now at sixty six,
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because we made that trade earlier and
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Uh, Well, there's some interesting guys here available
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at this pick, including Ruke Aro
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Hero, the lineman you
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can say from Clemson.
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I think he would fit right into the Yeah.
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I think he's a fantastic fit to be.
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Jaden Hicks is still there, the safety out of Washington
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State. Christian Haynes's guard at of Connecticut. We don't
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really need a guard at this point. Junior Colson,
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the linebacker out of Michigan. Kyrie
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Jackson the another long corner
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six foot three cornerback out of Oregon. Spencer
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Rattler is there if we want to go quarterback again
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there Jalen Wright, uh
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the running back out of Tennessee. I.
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You know, I don't know if we overthink this guys. I
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think Aurora ro Is.
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He's jumping off a screen to be. But can you just do
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a quick corner search?
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Yep.
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If I don't want to neglect
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the defensive.
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Backfield, don't either. Yeah,
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So you got Kyrie Jackson, Max.
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Max Mountain was a name I was interesting. Yeah,
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I'm a big fan.
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ANDREI we got we
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got to pick at eighty four coming up here. We're not
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going to get a chance at that defensive tackle. There's
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other cornerbacks there on the board. Phillips out
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of Kentucky, Bernardo Green out of
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Florida State, Jerry and John's at.
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A slot capable guys which they
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need, and they tend to fall a little. I would take Aurora
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ro though I never try
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to say that name, but he's long. He'd
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learn from Cam. He kind of fits that three
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four D N mold and there's not many of them.
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I'm happy to address the D line. Yeah, that's
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your guy, that's.
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Your good Auror Hero.
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It is okay.
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We're back up now here at eighty four. We have no trade
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offers for this eighty fourth pick. Some
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of the top guys available. Johnny Wilson, the big
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wide receiver out of Florida State.
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He's a lot different than the receiver like six.
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Seven power forward Jamari
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Thrash, the wide receiver out of Louisville. Malachai
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Corley another one of those shorter type,
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but power.
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I would take receiver Wilson if we were
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do a second receiver, which seems a little ambitions.
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I think at this point we want to definitely take a
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look at tackles, and we want to take
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a look at the cornerbacks. So
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Ernardo Green is there cornerback
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out of Florida State Dominic Pooney, Jerry and Jones
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DJ.
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James Uh corner pretty
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hard.
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Yeah, they got hit pretty pretty darn hard. Tackles
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are also drying up there. Matt Gonclave's
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uh is there from Pitt.
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I'd consider Elijah Jones. I'd be
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Yeah, I think he fits in well, they'll
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know a ton about him. He'd
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be there slot from day one. He also could play
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outside a little bit. Yeah, I think
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that works well.
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Should we take a look at safety just as have
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a.
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Little uh
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yeah, so he gets I got a couple of safeties
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there that have slot capabilities
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as well, including Dadrian Taylor Demerson
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who was Ke Smith.
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Yeah, just an extreme athlete.
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Cool. Bishop is intriguing.
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I just don't think it's a
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need compared to the I
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mean, if he's there two picks from or twelve
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picks from now, I would consider him.
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Shall we roll the dice?
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I think you take the BC corner
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and.
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Then hope for the Utah
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safety.
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Yeah. I'm not thrilled with the tackle situation.
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Yeah, it's it's dried up quickly, all right.
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And again, in a different world, we had
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so many picks. We could have maybe trade up five spots
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to have to tackle Seem Mataia went
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like ten picks ahead.
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So Elijah Jones is the pick, takes the ball away.
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That's what you want to do there, to play inside it.
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We're out.
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We're up here at ninety eight. Now we
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do have a trade back offer. But let's let's take
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a look here. Cold Bishop
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still there.
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Well, he's intriguing.
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You still have super athletes some of those safeties
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are, you know, Dadrien, Tom Taylor, Demerson, see
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Ony Backy Tyke Smith, Cold Bishop.
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I'd have been okay with Bishop last pick, though, I'm
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certainly okay with him here.
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I mean he helps on special teams a ton. You
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could play him with the two starters and big Nickel
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a lot early in his career.
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I mean, he's are you guys, did you
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tell guys you pretty much know what you're getting?
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Yeah, I yes, Yeah, it's been like a really good
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from that program on defense. It's a great point.
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Yeah, And I think there's
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still one tackle out there that I would have my
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eye on here. When the Steelers roll around the pick
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with their next pick, that will be Jones
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from Texas.
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Yeah, there's a couple of projects too. Yeah,
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they're interested in probably a year.
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Away, all right.
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Cole Bishop is the pick. So
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we came out of this then heavy
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on the defensive side of things after
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the young Rose couple of Yeah, after the first
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we got Jackson Powers Johnson at pick twenty
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seven. Remember we traded down, giving
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up twenty twenty for pick
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twenty seven, pick sixty six and
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next year's fourth round pick from the Cardinals,
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which could be pretty good.
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You would think Powers Johnson's a plug and play
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starter from first daycamp. Yeah.
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You got Ricky Piersoll secid receiver.
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Second day camp.
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Yeah,
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yeah, wide receiver Ricky
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Pearsall out of Florida at pick fifty
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one. Then we picked at
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sixty six Rooke Aro Hero at
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a Clemson the defensive lineman.
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You have to get used to spelling that one, Mike. If we do that,
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Elijah Jones at pick eighty
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four, the cornerback out of Boston
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College, and then came back with another defensive
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back at picked ninety eight in Cole Bishop
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out of Utah.
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I think that just completes your secondary. Yeah,
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and same with the deal a number of years. Yeah, yeah, you
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could be set there for a while.
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Yeah, I like the way that worked out. That's
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a nice start. Yeah.
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Absolutely, get some plug and play guys, get some guys
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on some premium picks on offense
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and then defensive depth, and guys
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who maybe help you out at some point
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this year as well.
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And this time next year. I'd be pretty happy with that fourth round
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pick from Arizona too.
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Sounds like we got to figure it out. Well,
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see what happens when we get to the
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real thing in a couple of weeks.
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But that is going to do it for us
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for now. I want to remind everybody the opinions
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expressed on this program onere of the opinions of
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Matt Williamson, Dale Lawley and Mike
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Pursuit It nobody else. But that's
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what we came up with, and we will be coming up
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with more just compelling
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for finding us, however, and wherever
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you found us. Until next time. For Matt
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