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On this episode of News World, trail

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Blazing TV journalist Bill O'Reilly,

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the best selling author of the Killing Series,

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adds Killing the Legends The

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Lethal Danger of Celebrity to his

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roster of record breaking books. The

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Deco writes of Martin Dugard, this

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will be the twelfth book in the series, nearly

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all of which have become Number one New

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York Times and national bestsellers

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and sold almost nineteen million

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copies worldwide. And I have to

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say I think a Bill is a close

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personal friend. We've done many things

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over the years together. He is a

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remarkable journalist. He's an amazing

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guy, and his range of knowledge

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is astonishing. And the way in which

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he has put this whole Killing series

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together, I'm astonished at how

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well he's done with this and Killing the Legends

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his newest book, he explores the lives,

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legacies, and tragic debts of

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three of the most famous people of the twenty century,

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Elvis Presley, John Lennon

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and Muhammad Ali. These three icons

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change the worlds of music, film

1:08

and sports. Here to talk about his

1:10

new book, I am very pleased to

1:12

welcome back my good friend Bill

1:14

O'Reilly. Bill,

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it's terrific to have you back. Thank you, missus

1:27

Viaker. I never take it for granted. Your audience

1:30

is very well informed. So those

1:32

are the kind of people we want to reach when

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promoting anything, including

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Killing the Legends. You know, one thing in your

1:39

intro that I want to point out is

1:41

that the reason I selected these three

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Presley, Lennon and Ali is

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because they change the way we

1:49

live in America. And

1:52

you saw it because you

1:54

are in that age group post

1:57

World War Two that went

1:59

through the conformity of the fifties, saw

2:01

the rock Rebellion come in after Presley's

2:04

at Sullivan appearance, and then lived

2:06

through the sixties in the sex drugs,

2:08

rock and roll, which we still have spear

2:11

pointed by the Beatles, and then

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into the Age of Descent spearheaded

2:15

by Muhammad Ali when it refused to be drafted.

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So you saw all of that up

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close. And cultural history

2:23

is underreported in this country. You

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know, all of my other Killing books have been on wars

2:28

or presidents Lincoln Kennedy.

2:31

But this one I wrote because

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it's right in my wheelhouse. I lived it

2:35

and you lived in. These three

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people were astonishingly

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present in people's lives.

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I mean, Presley at one point I

2:44

think did a program on worldwide

2:47

television with one and a half

2:49

billion people watching and

2:51

was the first person to be in that kind of a league.

2:54

Leonard of course with the Beatles, and

2:56

then just as a creative force was

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kind of remarkable. And Muhammad

3:01

Ali both because he was so

3:04

unique and willing to stand up for what he believed

3:06

in, but also he was such an astonishing

3:09

boxer. He carried himself

3:12

in a very positive way. And

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I think that an impact that people today probably

3:16

don't realize how significant

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Muhammad Ali was as a personality

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and representing sort of a kind

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of excellence. I mean, all three of these people were

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giants. How did you conceptualize

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this book, because it's a very interesting take.

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Well, what I did was I always

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look at things from a history

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slash journalism point of view,

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and I knew, based

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upon my life and my job

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as a journalist, that all three of these men

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self destructed. So

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they were given by God

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extraordinary talents, and

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they use those talents to become icons,

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wealthy, they could do whatever they

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wanted to do. Yet with all that,

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they destroyed themselves. All

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three in very similar ways.

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They will all betrayed, and they

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all basically were overwhelmed

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by their circumstance, by their fame. They

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could not handle it,

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which is why the subtitle is the

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Lethal Danger of Celebrity. Now,

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both you and I are celebrities. We're famous

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people, and we know that

4:30

we are targets and that

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we have to be careful and

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that we have to take

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steps to protect ourselves and our families.

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Yet a nineteen year old from Mississippi, eighteen

4:44

year old from Louisville, Kentucky,

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and eighteen year old

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from Liverpool, England did

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not know that they had no

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blanket idea what

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was about to befall them when they

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became so success asful And

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the reason this material attracted me was

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because a lot of people in our culture in

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America want to be rich and famous, and

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you know the old cliche, be careful

5:10

what you wish for. The

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three you picked not only were gigantic celebrities,

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but all three came out of poverty.

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So all three sort of rose within

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a decade or fifteen years from

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not having very much to having more than you

5:25

could imagine. And I think that made

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it a little disorienting, if you will.

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They were all disoriented and

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they didn't know where to go. And

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they had no one around them to give

5:38

them solace, to mentor

5:40

them. They didn't have any

5:43

of that. And what

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happened was that once

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they got into a situation

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where they were isolated, you

5:52

know your elevits, you can't go out to dinner

5:56

or ali where every winning with mob

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then and they gave up their autonomy

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to other people. It became so oppressive

6:04

to them. So Elvis to Colonel

6:07

Tom Parker, who was a criminal, you

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handle it all. Alee to

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Herbert Muhammad, the Nation of Islam,

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which exploited him in

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harrowing ways and lent into Yoko

6:20

Ono. They all three gave up

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their autonomy. Famous or

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not. If you allow

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other people to run

6:29

your life, it is not

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going to turn out well. Certainly

6:34

in Elvis's case, Colonel Parker

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just totally exploited him. Not only

6:39

was he not protecting Presley,

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but he was actually setting Presley up

6:43

to use him to pay off Parker's

6:46

own gambling debts and to do

6:48

whatever Parker needed for himself, even

6:51

if it was increasing the destruction

6:53

of Presley. It's sort of amazing

6:56

how negative a royal Parker played.

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He was a heinous human

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being. He understood that

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Elvis was not intellectually

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equipped to run this empire

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that his talent led

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to. But I don't see Elvis,

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Orlean and or Elie as victims.

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They all knew what

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was happening to them. Pressley signed

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the contracts giving

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Parker fifty percent of

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all his earnings fifty percent.

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Ali allowed the Muslims

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to book him fights. When doctor

7:35

said you are not able

7:38

enough medically to go into the

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ring, the Muslims still

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put him in the ring, and that destroyed

7:45

his brain. But Ali knew that

7:48

that was the circumstance and allowed

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it to happen. Why do you think

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all three of them were,

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in a sense willingly exploited because

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they were overwhelmed at all. You know,

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everybody in life listening to West right now,

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when we get into difficult situations,

8:06

we either surrender we fight.

8:09

But it's very hard, very

8:11

very hard, And the tendency

8:14

for people is to run away

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into narcotics like Lennon

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and Presley, or into

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a cult like

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Ali. You just don't

8:26

want to deal with it. It's too painful,

8:28

too stressful, too complicated,

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So let somebody else deal with it. And

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that was the mistake all three of them made.

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did not know this until I read your book. I

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didn't realize how much Lennon's

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heroine use contributed to

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the breakup of the Beatles. That

9:54

story was kept very quiet. Some

9:56

in the press knew about it, but most

9:58

did not, and Lennon

10:01

became addicted to heroin after he

10:04

hooked up with Yoko Ono, who was

10:06

also a heroin user, and

10:08

the Beatles were shot the other

10:10

three members of the band because Lennon's

10:13

whole personality change from

10:15

an outgoing guy was always sardonic

10:17

and confrontational, but he was kind

10:20

of a good guy, fun to be around,

10:22

into this stoned out

10:24

guy who didn't interact with them at all,

10:27

and that's what led to the dissolution

10:29

of the Beatles. The story was kept

10:31

very very quiet. Now

10:33

to his credit, Lennon kicked the addiction

10:37

all right. Pressley never did,

10:39

and Pressley died because of drugs.

10:42

Lennon did get it behind

10:45

him, but then of course was assassinated,

10:47

the three of them. That's the most shocking

10:50

end. What do you think motivated

10:52

Mark David Chapman, who was the guy

10:55

who came from for Worth, Texas, to New York

10:57

specifically to kill Lennon? What was motivated

11:00

him? Yesterday was the anniversary

11:02

of Teddy Roosevelt being shot in the chest

11:04

and Milwaukee, Wisconsin by

11:07

this deranged thirty six year old

11:09

bartender, and Roosevelt actually

11:11

gave the speech with the bullet

11:13

in his rib Cage yesterday

11:15

it was the anniversary of it. Okay,

11:19

delusional people are everywhere,

11:22

and Mark David Chapman, the Lennon

11:24

assassin, was obviously mentally

11:28

ill. And that is

11:30

the lethal danger of celebrity.

11:32

If I want to go to a Washington Redskins

11:34

game, or they're not the Redskins anymore,

11:36

the Washington Commander's game,

11:39

I can't sit in the stands. I

11:42

don't know about you, but I can't sit

11:44

in the standard. I gotta sit in a box.

11:47

Most of the people when I encounter them in

11:49

public, are very nice. They want to picture, they

11:51

want to chat, hap me to do it. But

11:53

there is that fringe two percent

11:57

that are just unhinged

12:00

and may physically hurt

12:02

you. And every celebrity

12:04

knows that. Incredibly.

12:07

Pressley did have security,

12:09

they called it the Memphis Mafia,

12:12

but Lenin did not. On

12:15

No controlled him to such an extent that

12:17

you don't want anybody around him. So

12:19

Lennon and Ono would walk around

12:21

the streets of New York by themselves,

12:25

no security and boom.

12:28

So that's the harrowing

12:30

part that if you're famous, you become

12:33

a target of crazy,

12:36

deranged people of the internet, nuts

12:39

of political foes, whatever it may

12:41

be, you are a target,

12:44

very heavy weight to bear. In

12:46

Lennon's case, he said the Hubris as

12:49

you remember, and as you put in the book of

12:51

saying in nineteen sixty six, we're

12:53

more popular than Jesus now. And

12:56

I think for some people that was a deeply

12:58

offensive comment and sort of served

13:00

as a lightning rod. Sure,

13:03

but Lennon didn't mean it. Because Lennon

13:05

just babbled. He didn't know what

13:07

he was saying. He's kind of like Joe Biden.

13:09

He just says stuff out

13:12

of the thin air, and

13:14

he says it to get a reaction. So

13:16

the press would come around John Lennon, and

13:19

this was before Yoko and

13:21

kind of bait him with stuff and knowing

13:23

that Lennon could say anything at any time and

13:25

they get a headline. It's like clickbait

13:28

now on social media. So

13:30

I never took that seriously.

13:32

I mean, Lennon was a guy who

13:34

was very flamboyant. He was kind of entertaining

13:37

to watch until his life

13:40

took a dramatic turn, before

13:42

he got so heavily into

13:44

drugs. Do you think that Elvis

13:47

sort of understood what he was doing. I mean, it's

13:49

remarkable, how his career explodes

13:52

and how he's the pioneer

13:54

who breaks open music for everybody

13:57

who follows, not just music.

14:00

So post World War Two, nineteen

14:02

fifties, Eisenhower President America

14:05

is conformist. We

14:07

all look the same, sound the same. No

14:10

rebellion, no descent. People

14:12

do what they did the last

14:15

four decades because everybody was exhausted

14:18

by the war. Just want to raise

14:20

the family, baby boomers, no

14:23

turbulence. All of a sudden,

14:25

a teenager from Mississippi appears

14:27

on The Ed Sullivan Show and

14:30

blows up the conformist

14:33

culture in six minutes,

14:35

singing a dopey song named

14:37

hound Dog. The next

14:39

day, preachers all over

14:41

the country are saying that Elvis Presley

14:43

is an agent of Satan. Parents

14:46

are telling their kids, you're not going to slick

14:48

your hair back, You're not going to wear

14:50

that leather jacket. But

14:52

who wins? Presley

14:55

wins. The culture changes

14:58

into rock and roll and rebel, and

15:01

then you get all of that subtext.

15:03

We were still in innocent society.

15:05

You remember the hula hoop in nineteen sixty

15:08

the twist. We weren't hardcore

15:11

like we became in the sixties, but

15:13

Elvis single handedly brought

15:15

down the conformist culture, which

15:18

is why this is a history book. You

15:20

know, sometimes I have trouble explaining to people

15:22

why I'm writing about. It's not People magazine,

15:25

this is American history.

15:27

These guys drove it. And

15:30

then the sixties, the Beatles

15:32

were the spear point magical mystery

15:35

tour, Sergeant Pepper, sex,

15:38

drugs, rock and roll. We have that today,

15:41

suspicion of authority,

15:43

and Lenin was the

15:45

driver of that, along with his bandmates

15:48

who didn't take it as seriously as

15:51

Lennon did with the give Piece

15:53

of Chance, Mantra and all of that. Well,

15:56

and it's remarkable when the Beatles did break

15:58

up how different they're careers

16:00

were. Some of them just

16:02

bounced back and went on to live very

16:05

successful, normal lives. Sure

16:07

the other three learned from

16:10

Lenin, so they're all drug involved.

16:13

In the mid sixties, all the Beatles

16:15

were taken drugs, but not opious,

16:18

not heroin, I mean that was debilitating.

16:20

They were taken pot and hash

16:23

and LSD. But when they saw what

16:25

happened to Lennon, that

16:28

wise them up, and

16:31

also when he was

16:34

assassinated. All three of the Beatles

16:36

then had cadres of protection.

16:39

They changed their whole life and they

16:41

were just lucky, I think, to get

16:44

through it, where Lennon

16:47

didn't get it was almost luck because

16:49

any of the three could have been a target

16:52

of it, an assassin, that's for sure. Well,

16:55

of course, in the case of McCartney, he

16:57

is carried on. He's still today is

16:59

carrying on a remarkably successful

17:01

career and seems to have been a relatively

17:04

stable balanced person

17:06

most of his life. Yeah, McCartney

17:08

was lucky enough to run into the Eastman

17:10

family through a girlfriend

17:13

and then a subsequent wife, Linda Eastman,

17:16

and to this day they run his career

17:19

and they are very very

17:21

savvy business people and

17:23

pretty much you know it said, Look, you

17:26

can have every luxury you want in the world,

17:28

which Paul McCartney does, but

17:31

you know, there's certain things you've got to do, and

17:33

McCartney conformed to that with

17:35

both Presley and Lennon and the Beatles

17:37

as a group. You have people who are

17:40

making music. They may have things they do

17:43

to themselves, either to relieve

17:45

the tension or out of boredom or whatever, but

17:47

there's not an inherently difficult

17:49

challenge in being successful

17:52

musician. On the other hand, when

17:54

you cover Cassius Clay, who then becomes

17:56

Muhammad Ali, he was inherently

18:00

in a dangerous business. In the book, you point

18:02

out that there was an estimate that

18:04

during his career he had actually

18:07

absorbed almost two hundred thousand

18:09

blows to his head and his body.

18:12

I mean, that's almost unimaginable, it

18:14

is, and it just shows you how

18:17

strong a man he

18:19

was. But the thing about Muhammad Ali that struck

18:22

me the most was here

18:24

was a charismatic guy who

18:26

got along with everybody I interviewed

18:29

him. I never thought he was anti whitey,

18:31

or a racist or anything like that. And he

18:33

signs up with a racist organization,

18:35

a Nation of Islam, which is run by

18:37

Farikahan, now still in operation.

18:41

And once he does that and

18:43

becomes a Muslim, he

18:46

conforms to what they

18:48

want him to do. So he

18:50

almost died, Muhammad Ali. And this is some of the

18:52

finest writing I've ever done in my life. I

18:54

put you in the ring in Manila,

18:57

the Philippines, when he's fighting Joe Fraser.

19:00

Frasier almost kills him, literally

19:02

kills him, and he almost blinds

19:05

Frasier Ali. And

19:07

then for two weeks after that fight.

19:10

Ali couldn't even go out, he had

19:12

to stay in a darkened room. And as doctor

19:14

Ferdie Butchekov says, look, you can't fight

19:16

for a year. You're so damaged.

19:19

You can't fight for twelve

19:21

months. Four months later, guess

19:23

who's back in the ring. And it was

19:25

because of the Nation of Islam. They

19:28

wanted the money, and they

19:30

took an enormous amount of money

19:33

from Mohammed Ali, who

19:35

allowed them to do it. And

19:37

you know, Lennon, Presley and Elie were

19:40

not stupid men. They

19:42

weren't. They weren't well educated,

19:44

they didn't have a support system,

19:48

they had dysfunctional families,

19:50

but they weren't stupid, and

19:53

they just got exhausted and they

19:55

gave up, and that led

19:57

to their demise. You

20:16

knew book Killing the Legends the lethal danger

20:18

of celebrity is remarkable himself. But I cannot

20:21

have you on at this particular

20:23

time of the year, given your remarkable

20:26

background as a journalist, and

20:28

not ask you about the elections. We were chatting

20:30

earlier that you see the world from

20:32

Long Island, So share with us, just for a

20:34

couple of minutes, your thoughts about what twenty

20:37

twenty two is likely to turn out

20:39

to be okay, So I agree with you.

20:41

There's going to be a red wave. I

20:44

think the House will be almost historically

20:47

Republican. I think the Senate

20:49

will go to the Republicans as

20:51

well, although if

20:54

Republicans can muck it up, they will

20:56

all right. I'm not a big party guy, as

20:58

you know. Right now, with

21:01

eighty percent of Americans eighty

21:05

saying that they are suffering because

21:07

of the Biden economy, I

21:09

don't see how it can go any other way.

21:12

Now, what you're going to see in the next few

21:14

weeks is panic in the media.

21:17

All summer, the media propped up

21:20

the Democrats and all comeback, comeback,

21:22

comeback, abortion, this Trump

21:24

that, whatever it may be. Now

21:27

they're starting to realize that

21:30

the country is going to profoundly

21:32

change in the next four months.

21:35

The progressive left is

21:38

going to get hammered. They're

21:40

going to lose all credibility as well.

21:42

They should for inflicting

21:45

this economic horror on

21:48

working Americans. This

21:51

was a system

21:53

of incompetence run

21:56

by Joe Biden, but dictated

21:58

by his progressive left masters.

22:01

And you want to link it into killing the

22:04

legends, here it is Biden

22:06

is not in charge he's

22:08

not making the decisions. He has

22:10

seeded all power and

22:13

sold out all his previous

22:15

convictions to the progressive

22:18

left. That was the financial

22:20

pathway to the White House,

22:23

and he and Jill Biden took

22:25

it. He doesn't have

22:28

any decision making right

22:30

now. Biden. He does

22:32

what he is told to do. And

22:35

the sad fact is the progressives

22:38

in the name of global warming have

22:41

destroyed the infrastructure

22:43

of the American economy and

22:46

people. They may not understand

22:49

all of their nuance, but they know

22:51

they're getting hurt, so they're

22:53

going to hurt the Democrats on November

22:55

eighth. What is your take. You're

22:58

pretty optimistic that Leezelden could

23:00

end up as governor of New York, which would truly be

23:03

a dramatic moment earthquake.

23:06

So Zelden is about

23:09

three points down

23:12

and the Democratic machine in New York

23:14

State is two to one over Republicans

23:17

registered voters. Twenty million

23:20

people in New York State, eight and a half million

23:22

of them live in New York City, which

23:25

is destroyed. New York

23:27

City is a violent

23:30

place. Quality of life is decline.

23:33

Everybody can see it. You don't

23:35

have to be told it. You can see it. Okay,

23:38

it is a dangerous situation.

23:41

I think that a lot of the Democrat

23:44

voters, particularly in the African American

23:46

community, aren't going to vote for

23:48

Zelden. They're just not going to

23:50

vote, and the polls

23:53

do not reflect that. If

23:55

they don't show up, and believe me, the machine

23:58

will try to get them out.

24:00

I don't think they're gonna go. Zelden

24:02

will win, and that will be an earthquake

24:05

in politics in America since

24:08

that happening in a number of places. You

24:10

know, Iowa used to be very competitive. I

24:12

think the last Iowa Democratic

24:14

congressman is going to get beaten this year

24:17

and it'll be all Republican. And you see

24:19

place after place. I think the

24:22

Valley in Texas, which is very

24:24

Hispanic, is basically going to

24:26

be one conservative Democrat

24:29

and three Republicans when this election's

24:31

over. I'm looking around it. What

24:33

could be a genuinely revolutionary

24:36

election in terms of the

24:38

size of the wave that is building. I

24:41

agree with you, and people

24:43

are not only disenchanted

24:46

with the Biden administration and the Democrat

24:48

platform, they are angry

24:52

and anger drives

24:54

votes. Okay,

24:58

so if you're angry, that's Trump

25:00

lost because people

25:03

were angry with him, not with

25:05

his policies, because

25:07

his policy largely worked, but

25:10

they were angry with him. The

25:12

same thing is going to happen now they're angry

25:15

with Biden. When Biden goes out

25:17

this week and says the economy

25:20

is strong as hell, that's

25:22

an insult to working

25:24

people who can't pay the bills.

25:28

He just insulted them. The

25:30

economy in the real world,

25:33

a world which Joe Biden does not exist

25:35

in the economy

25:38

is not strong as hell. The economy

25:40

is hurting people, and so that

25:42

kind of a visceral reaction is

25:45

going to mean and I believe a lancelide

25:47

for the GOP. I

25:50

couldn't help myself. I saw this picture of Biden

25:53

after he made his economy comments, eating an

25:55

ice cream cone, so I went and

25:57

checked. In December twenty

25:59

twenty one, a half gallon of ice cream

26:01

was four seventy six. In September

26:04

of this year, it's five dollars and seventy

26:06

cents. That means in less than a

26:08

year there's been a twenty percent increase

26:11

in the cost of ice cream. And I hope

26:13

everybody who watches Biden eating an

26:15

ice cream cone will remember everything

26:18

is more expensive because of Joe Biden. Than

26:20

they should also remember, mister speaker,

26:22

that Biden didn't pay for that ice cream. We

26:25

did paid

26:27

for it. That's right. I hadn't thought

26:30

of that part of it. He doesn't notice

26:32

the price because he doesn't pay it. He

26:34

didn't care. He didn't care about us.

26:37

He didn't care about people scratching a

26:39

living, people with five kids trying

26:41

to get by. He didn't care because

26:44

he's in denial. Oh no, it's not

26:46

bad. Oh, the southern

26:48

border is secure. All

26:50

those hundreds of thousand people dying for

26:52

federal da it's secure.

26:55

No, no, no, we're doing a great job. We

26:57

have a delusional president, the

27:00

second worst president in

27:02

the history of this republic in

27:05

his first two years, the second

27:08

worst president, Joe Biden. So

27:10

who do you nominate for worst? James

27:12

Buchanan will never be overtaken

27:15

as the worst president in our history,

27:18

the worst. He allowed the

27:20

South to storm federal

27:23

depots, to accumulate weaponry,

27:25

to abuse the federal government, and

27:28

I've led directly to the Civil War. Poor Abraham

27:30

Lincoln when he walked in there with a mess.

27:33

No, I couldn't agree with you more. It's

27:35

just remarkable Bubby, I've been telling

27:37

people, make sure you check your four oh

27:39

one K before you vote, and it will

27:41

convince you to vote Republican. I

27:44

don't know if anybody needs convincing anymore,

27:46

even the dimmest among us. Yea,

27:49

even the dimmest people. But it'll

27:51

be interesting to see the media panic in the

27:53

next two weeks. They will panic,

27:56

They'll try to drag Trump back into the spotlight.

27:58

The abortion things out work and for him. But

28:01

where do you see the panic on a part

28:03

of the corporate media. Yep,

28:05

it's going to be interesting to watch. Let me

28:07

just say, I arge everybody listening.

28:10

One, make sure you go vote, and two pick

28:13

up Killing the Legends. As you heard

28:15

in this conversation, it's a fascinating

28:17

book and once again we'll open

28:19

up ideas you've never had and as

28:21

typical of the kind of work that Bill

28:24

does. So Bill, I'm sure and

28:26

within a year you will be back with another

28:28

book and I will look forward once

28:31

again. Okay, I got one more to do in

28:33

the contract that we have now, and I got

28:35

to tell everybody, missus speaker, that you we mentioned

28:37

the top of the program that we've been friends for It's

28:40

got to be now close to

28:42

thirty years, and I respect

28:44

that you are an honest man who

28:46

speaks on behalf

28:49

of the regular American.

28:52

You've never been one of these snooty, snobby

28:56

politicians whose power went to his head.

28:58

You still maintain that common

29:01

touch and I respect that very much. Thanks for having

29:03

me on your fine podcast. Thank

29:07

you to my guest Bill O'Reilly. You can

29:09

get a link to buy his new book, Killing the Legends

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