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So to those of you, you who were at the beginning

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of the home, before the home even started, we

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say.

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Welcome home, Welcome you.

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So we're going to be here, and before we

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even jump into the.

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Substance of the podcast, let's

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roll that clip. Let's roll that clip

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over there. I think y'all wrote that clip.

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We need to hear blond's beach

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blonde that's built body blond,

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bad built pleach blonde, bad built

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bush bodyach blonde,

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bad built blond that built

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pleach blond, bad built bush bottom.

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I'm curious.

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Hey, Hey, that's

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where we're up against these days.

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We're up against a whole lot of beach blonde,

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bad built. About

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to say, but we

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want to replace one of those B words, but we can't

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stop in ourselves. Apologies.

2:00

Can you please warn the people that they are

2:03

on TV?

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And yes, it sounds

2:06

like you're warning them now.

2:07

Yes, Well, Angela was supposed to give y'all a

2:09

legal note that if you're in this room,

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you've agreed to be on TV. And so if

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you find yourself in our YouTube

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release of the show on Thursday

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evening or maybe Friday morning, please

2:23

do not sue.

2:23

Kim.

2:26

Your presence is your consent, and we thank you

2:29

in advance for yes.

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And even more so for those of you who engage.

2:32

This is a town hall takeover as Brandon

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by our good friend Kim Blackwell. Thank you,

2:37

sister for having us at this incredible

2:39

conference. If you ask a question this

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Mike is right here in the center.

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Of the room. You will state your name and where you're from,

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and you are.

2:46

Also authorizing us to record you on

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audio and video, so we are very grateful for that.

2:50

Can I say real quick, Yeah, I want to say

2:52

welcome home to the people in the audience here

2:55

live with us, but also welcome home to

2:57

all y'all who are listening who are not here at this conference.

3:00

Come home, everybody.

3:01

Yes, we are going to accelerate her in Miami.

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It is our first live.

3:04

Show of this election season.

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We're going to be campaigning on our own because campaigns

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right now a little dry. So on

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that what we really wanted to talk

3:14

about today. We normally spend a lot of time

3:16

in politics. What we believe is that politics

3:18

are everywhere, and we talk about that on every single

3:21

show. And one of the things that has

3:23

been very present, especially for people in this room,

3:26

are the attacks on DEI.

3:27

We know that there are up to eighty.

3:29

Bills and roughly twenty eight states

3:31

that are attacking diversity, equity and inclusion,

3:35

and since January fourteen of those

3:37

bills have been signed into law. We

3:40

know that there are

3:42

out of all the fortune one thousand, there

3:44

is one Fortune one thousand

3:47

CEO and she will be honored at this conference.

3:49

Her name is Tashanda Decade for those

3:51

of you who all do not know, and she stands

3:55

alone right now, there's only one black

3:57

woman CEO. Two percent

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of the c suite for the Fortune

4:02

five hundred are black women. Four

4:04

percent of board seats of companies

4:07

in the SMP are black women, and eighty

4:10

six eighty six of those seats were

4:12

filled after the reckoning with George

4:14

Floyd in twenty twenty. We

4:16

also know that last year the Supreme

4:18

Court had a disastrous ruling

4:20

against affirmative action, and since then a lot

4:23

of the companies that said black lives

4:25

matter said, actually.

4:26

Y'all don't matter that much. I ain't trying to really have you in

4:28

here like that. So we have to face those

4:30

attacks as well.

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We know for black women when if

4:34

and how we have children is under attack, to

4:37

how we wear our hair, to how

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and where we learn and what

4:42

we and what we learn,

4:44

and we also know that how

4:47

we fund our businesses is even under

4:49

attack. And you all will hear from Arian Simone

4:52

about what she's experiencing and

4:54

the fight that she's up against at this conference.

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So That's kind of how I

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wanted to to put this

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the context of this

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conversation and lay that out there. We

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know that we also are under tremendous

5:09

attack, even in the legal field. We

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have spent a lot of time on our podcast recently

5:14

talking about our dear sister and friend, Marilyn Moseby.

5:17

I'll be leaving you all tomorrow morning to

5:19

go to her sentencing in Greenbelt,

5:21

Maryland.

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We are fighting for her every day and the reason

5:26

for that, thank you. The reason for

5:28

that is because Marilyn

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is not the only one.

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I've talked about it on the podcast often.

5:35

Andrew, who's sitting next to us, could have been

5:37

in that number. Andrew was acquitted, he

5:39

had to pay a hefty legal fee to make

5:42

sure that he was adequately defended. But it's not

5:44

just the two of them. There was Aaron Mesayala

5:46

and Monique Wordell and all

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of these black women prosecutors, Kim Gardner,

5:51

Rachel Rollins. We are under

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attack on every side. And part of what we

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know are call to action is when we come here every

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year that Kim wants us to sure is

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that we are figuring out how we support

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each other so that when the attacks

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come TIF. We talked about your attacks last

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year. When the attacks come, we are ready

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to mount a ready defense and that

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is what we want to talk about today.

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Thank you for setting it up that way, Angela,

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and I know we don't have to tell y'all in the room

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the state of DEI, but it

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truly does cast a dark shadow of

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influence over so many sectors. And

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just to add to make sure you

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all understand that the center of this conversation, it

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is a conversation with us. But we're here live

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because we wanted to be a conversation with you, So

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y'all are not being talked at today.

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We want to talk with you all today.

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And as we give calls to action to our audience

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watching at home, we are also open and receptive

6:44

to the calls to actions you all have. I

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want to thumbtack or add on to

6:48

what Angela said about DEI. There

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are proactive attacks happening. Last

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year, thirteen attorneys general sent

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letters to private sector

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companies asking them to re examine

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their DEI policies

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in wake of the law. That's what I

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would call a threat. It's

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not a request, it's a threat. And

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so there are people who are responding to this. So

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whatever happens in politics, it definitely

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impacts the private sector, and it should not be

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incumbent upon the private sector to

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play a political role in upholding

7:23

are just our guaranteed rights. But

7:25

increasingly so, that's what's happening. And I know a

7:27

lot of the people in this room, in those listening at

7:29

home, you all hold the line

7:31

for us. So I do want to say thank you to

7:34

everybody in this room and everybody who's at

7:36

home, who has stood up for someone who

7:38

was their subordinate, who has supported someone

7:41

who was their superior, who has opened a door

7:43

for someone who looked like them, who has

7:45

hired.

7:46

Themselves over and over and over, because

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that's what it takes.

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And it's a lot of fear driven responses

7:52

now and we have to get ahead of that as well. So

7:54

thank you all for being here and enjoying the conversation.

7:57

There's a microphone right there, so as

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y'all have thoughts, comments, questions,

8:02

please.

8:02

Feel free to jump in and be a part of the conversation

8:05

as well.

8:05

Yeah, and I'll just add and I just

8:07

want to thank you all for creating this space. I

8:10

was blown away by some of

8:13

the background and the work that you each

8:15

do. And of course my thought immediately ran

8:17

to, well, who the hell is carrying a

8:19

little while y'all are here? As

8:21

I think about the roles that you play every

8:24

single day in somebody's life. If

8:26

it's not at the boardroom, it's

8:29

ensuring payroll works out this month.

8:31

If it's not that, it's client development. If

8:33

it's not that, maybe it's home and taking

8:35

care of all the things that require your attention because

8:37

for some reason.

8:38

Nobody else knows how to do it.

8:40

And so in that spirit, I just want to say thank you, thank

8:44

you for the service, and also thank

8:46

you for being. What is

8:49

any irrational request of any

8:51

of society to have, but you

8:53

all often rise to it and go above

8:56

it, and that is that we expect you to

8:58

be superheroes every day in

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every aspect.

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Of your life.

9:03

And when that doesn't come through

9:05

quite the way that you would like it too, because

9:08

we on the benefactor side are like, thank you, keep it

9:10

moving, and you allt to like, that could have gone

9:12

better, And if I had just the second

9:14

more, this is how it could have been done. I just I

9:16

think it's an amazing attribute

9:19

to you and it deserves and acknowledgment.

9:21

And then the only other thing I.

9:22

Would say is, and I learned

9:24

this through my experience having gone and fought

9:27

the federal government and trial, and

9:29

that is, there are the people

9:32

who you expect to show up for you and to have

9:34

your back, and maybe even some of you

9:36

expected that you might lean out in

9:39

a different kind of way. And I guess to satiate

9:41

that a little bit, I would say, we

9:43

all have roles to play here. And

9:46

the people I was mad at who didn't

9:48

show up at the courtroom, I didn't consider for a

9:51

moment what risks they may be putting

9:53

themselves in that might impact

9:55

their ability to bring home a check next month,

9:58

the month after, or the month after. And

10:00

so seeing those people where they were, I

10:02

think it helped me to get over very quickly

10:05

the fact that it isn't always

10:07

about us. Sometimes it's about

10:09

them, and the way they show up is how they can

10:11

show up for you, because that's the best they can do.

10:13

In that moment.

10:14

I heard it preached one time, and I'll stop that because

10:18

we may be lions, we may be folks

10:20

who are going to show up squad formation

10:23

every time somebody finds themselves in the crosshairs.

10:27

We are expecting the people.

10:28

Who we ride with to do the same.

10:30

And guess what, a lot of those people

10:32

have been camouflaging as lions

10:35

and lionesses.

10:36

And they are hyaenas.

10:38

And you can't expect a hyaena

10:41

to perform like a lion because it just

10:43

doesn't know how. And so

10:45

in the way that they perform, they're just doing what they

10:48

know how to do. And I think if

10:50

we have grace in that way and

10:52

in our own way, keep the pressure around to show

10:54

up every time that we can and the most

10:57

persistent and helpful way we can, I

10:59

think it goes a long way.

11:00

We notice it, and the people who you stand in the gap

11:02

for notice it.

11:04

Can I ask you and you and Andrew a question because

11:06

I take your point. You've said that a lot.

11:07

Andrew counseled me when I was

11:09

going through things, and you know, he said to me, you

11:11

expect hyenas to be lions

11:14

to our lioness and our lion on stage.

11:17

I'm just curious and to the people in the audience,

11:20

I kind of do expect us to be lions, you

11:22

know, because it is challenging when we

11:25

are ten percent of us are lions

11:28

protecting ninety percent of hyaenas. It's

11:31

exhausting, And I just think the more people if

11:33

we all speak out, we all hold the line. If

11:35

we all do something, they can't cancel

11:37

everybody, they can't fire everybody. They literally

11:39

can't live without us. So I'm

11:42

just curious, as you say we should have grace from

11:44

you all's thoughts, like where do you fall on

11:46

that? Like how what is the expectation from

11:49

the folks in this room, the folks who are listening,

11:51

who do operate out of a righteous and

11:53

understandable fear, But we're

11:55

saying, no, you have to check your fear and lock

11:57

arms with us.

11:59

I don't even know if you have to check your fear. I

12:01

think that you have to move anyway, you

12:03

know. And I think the other thing is so funny

12:05

that you're like, I have a question, because I was going to ask this question

12:08

and I will kind of do this as a focus group whole

12:10

with the audience.

12:11

How many of you all are exhausted by

12:14

the attacks.

12:16

Like that?

12:16

I mean, it doesn't give any real room.

12:18

And so if you know that you're sitting next to your

12:20

sister or your brother or your friend, and you're

12:23

like, I know, that I'm tired, and I know that

12:25

you're tired, but maybe we're not tired in the same

12:27

way.

12:28

How can I support you like you might

12:31

find an extra.

12:32

Little boost of energy and support

12:34

from that, like one of the things that I'll give you

12:36

all really as a testimony and to me, all

12:39

of these folks are lions. I have a

12:41

professional development program that I talked to you all

12:43

about last year too.

12:45

These young people, y'all have blown

12:48

my mind.

12:48

Joe Teika is nodding because when with black

12:50

women, there are another source of constant

12:53

strength, a source of lines,

12:55

and that is a reflection of Joe.

12:57

That's how she is.

12:57

She doesn't expect anything else but

13:00

excellence from us, even in our weakness.

13:03

And the time I'm about to cry talking about I'm not doing.

13:04

This, but thank you, Joe, I

13:07

see you, I love you, And I'm thinking

13:09

about these young women who were

13:11

like Maryland Moseby could be us. They

13:14

have shown up doing graphics better

13:16

than any graphic I could have imagined. Kim's

13:18

a testament about control. That's what we talk about all

13:20

the time, like showing

13:23

up like videos a

13:26

social campaign. They've been like they

13:28

ordered T shirts with the QR codes on like

13:30

they are ready for tomorrow. And

13:33

it was there were things that I hadn't even considered

13:36

in my exhaustion, And in my

13:38

exhaustion I leaned up against some

13:40

young folks who were tired,

13:43

but they were tired in a different way and got

13:45

covered Maryland got covered in ways that we couldn't

13:47

have even imagined.

13:48

So I think the lesson in that is in

13:51

your exhaustion. One, you don't have to

13:53

do it all because you can't, you

13:55

know.

13:56

And I think the second thing would be if

13:59

you ask some one for help, it

14:01

might be the best thing you could have ever done,

14:03

because they probably can do it better than you do,

14:06

you know what I mean, Like you really might be blown

14:08

away. So not only

14:11

are we lions, they might

14:13

be cubs, but they're in development.

14:16

Everybody ain't a hyaena. Every want a hyaena? And stay

14:18

the hell away from me though, Andrew, Yeah.

14:22

When I say hyenas, I don't say it as a judgment

14:25

against them. I say it from some

14:27

people are living their lives wherein

14:30

they are accountable to somebody else for how

14:32

they get paid, whether they can show up

14:34

at the job site the next day.

14:36

I just want to acknowledge that.

14:39

Bold bodacious, incredible

14:42

ways in which we try to show

14:44

up for each other.

14:45

There's a sense of liberation and freedom that

14:48

affords that. And everyone

14:51

doesn't have the same thing, but we all have something.

14:55

And I guess the requests

14:57

they asked would be that we lean more

14:59

in to the something that we

15:02

might be able to do. No, you can't stand on the corner

15:04

for me, because your boss drives that way every day and if

15:06

he sees you out there holding a pro sign for

15:08

me, you may face some consternation. But

15:11

could you write a check or at least ask four

15:14

your seat mates at church to pass you with twenty

15:16

five dollar check for this young man who you believe

15:18

how to get there and you've got limitations

15:20

on the ways that you can do that. Or could you

15:22

be the CEO and instead of leading the protests,

15:25

maybe through your procurement policies,

15:27

you are changing rules and contract

15:32

negotiations and bid agreements so

15:35

that the people who then get access to the opportunity

15:37

to compete, their

15:39

lives are transformationally altered

15:42

forever, and their children's children

15:45

and their children's children's children will

15:47

be the benefactors of it. So there are ways

15:49

in which I think all of us have a role

15:51

to play. We may not be marching today,

15:54

but you might be in the in the boardroom

15:56

changing some policies that then creates a whole new

15:58

generation of black millionaire.

16:09

That's such a great point. I want to Speaking

16:11

of black millionaires, we got some in this room and some that

16:14

have questions.

16:14

I'm gonna call on Jewel.

16:16

Jewel told me she had something she was gonna say, so

16:18

I'm gonna call her up so she can come to the mic.

16:20

And I'm gonna call on Britney too. I don't know where Britney

16:22

and Joe Taga.

16:23

I know we've talked about Y'll take Edi on

16:25

this podcast a few times and she told me her

16:27

question in the in the hallway,

16:29

So yes, I want Y'll take her to.

16:31

None of them going up to the mic. What's

16:34

going on?

16:35

Like I wonder if they just deep thought what Andrew

16:37

said preached so good, they were just arrested

16:39

in the spirit. Yes, ma'am, say

16:42

your whole name and where you're from, because you are a legend.

16:45

Oh wow, thank you. Hello

16:47

everyone.

16:48

My name is juel Burg Solomon and I

16:50

am managing partner at Collab Capital,

16:52

which is in the early stage venture capital

16:54

fund investing in black lead innovation

16:58

companies across the US. Yes,

17:04

and to the points about lions and

17:06

hyenas, I'm experiencing.

17:08

That in my day to day.

17:10

What I want to talk about and get

17:12

you all's opinion on is giving away

17:14

early victories. I'm seeing that

17:17

where people are afraid they

17:19

don't want to be the next target for

17:21

some of these lawsuits, and so

17:23

they are making changes. They're changing their policy,

17:26

they're changing their website, they're changing their purpose.

17:29

And we have made a stand that we're not

17:31

going to do that. We are very intentional.

17:34

We understand the need for black entrepreneurs

17:37

and so we're not changing anything. But by

17:39

other people giving away those early victories

17:41

and making those changes, it does put us more

17:44

of a spotlight on us and what we're

17:46

doing. And so I guess it's an urge

17:48

to people who do have control

17:51

and power to not just say,

17:53

Okay, Edward blooming your posse, you

17:55

got it, will make the adjustment.

17:58

We don't need to make the adjustment because we're on

18:00

the right side. So curious about

18:03

you know how you all see that? And encouragement

18:06

for those of us who want to stand as lions.

18:09

But maybe in an even worse

18:11

spot because folks are already kind of giving

18:14

the victory away.

18:15

I love that question.

18:16

I'm gonna just because we just talked about

18:19

this, I want Joe Taka to offer some answers on that question.

18:21

And while she makes her way to the mic, we'll jump

18:23

in. But Angela,

18:25

I think that's a good place for you because I was

18:28

just thinking about your Angela.

18:30

She will.

18:31

Don't let her deflect. I'm gonna tell y'all, Angela

18:33

is the chiefest staff to the Blacks. We always say

18:35

that her because she will jump out

18:37

there and be in charge of something. And with this entire

18:39

Marilynd Moseby situation, like she has coordinated,

18:42

she has spearheaded all of this.

18:44

Then she has an ability in leadership. When

18:46

she asks, people will deliver.

18:48

And even asking asking hyenas

18:50

to be a lion, they might not even know they were a lion, but

18:52

they become a lion when you empower them.

18:54

So, having worked on Capitol Hill and you

18:56

know had all this, I'm curious how

18:59

you get people when you call

19:01

and ask they say.

19:02

Yes, well,

19:05

I love you. But I'm not about to answer that question. No,

19:09

I'm not. I want to answer Jewel. I love

19:11

Jules question Jewel.

19:13

I'm gonna say something controversial and people might

19:15

stage walk out, So we're just gonna have to roll with this. You

19:18

know what, white folks really got us beat on strategy.

19:22

They really got us beat on strategy. Why

19:25

do we have to tell them on

19:27

our websites, on our social

19:29

media everything that we are doing that

19:32

we intend to do. I think

19:34

that there are things that we can do that are

19:36

strategic where we still decide

19:38

what businesses were going to fund, what people

19:41

were going to hire, what kids are going

19:43

to get the scholarship, how we're going

19:45

to organize.

19:46

And they don't need to know our business.

19:48

For example, America First Legal

19:50

that was stood up by Stephen Miller. They

19:52

say on there that they are protecting our patriotic

19:55

duty to do whatever bs. I ain't gonna cusco with my daddy

19:57

and then listen to get mad. But like they ge

20:00

to say that and beat the patriots,

20:03

why can't your fund be the fun patriots?

20:06

Do they have us beat on strategy or do they have US

20:08

beat on power?

20:09

They have us beat on both.

20:12

So I hear people in the audience saying both say

20:14

it to my bank, Yes, I.

20:20

They can also fund their strategies. Like I'm

20:22

right, we're brilliant. We're brilliant

20:24

with less.

20:25

That's what I'm saying.

20:26

Like sometimes black folks, it's like I'm

20:29

trying to figure I got some note in the mail that my

20:31

mortgage company with switched.

20:32

I got two kids in school and cousin

20:34

JJ and need money for the prom.

20:36

And on top of that, I gotta care about climate change

20:38

and Trump and my local elections in.

20:40

The school board, you know.

20:42

And I think even when we talk about Republicans

20:44

have having better messaging and strategy,

20:46

it's like, no, you're just talking to a dumber crowd. We

20:49

have more things on our hands, and you're the people you're

20:51

speaking to. I say, are less curious

20:53

about things happening? If I can lead with the

20:56

racism, I'm already sold with white

20:58

folks. That's how it goes with us. I

21:00

think we're just a little more curious

21:03

about things. Yeah, but I disagree,

21:05

Okay, do you disagree with me all the time?

21:07

And then it

21:10

is I think.

21:12

White people's power in this country, in this world

21:15

has had so much time to experiment,

21:19

pass, fail, reinvent itself.

21:22

But what is insatiable about

21:24

them is their addiction to power, and

21:27

your addiction to power will allow

21:30

all kinds of creative, innovative,

21:33

illegal.

21:36

Ideas to percolate, and

21:38

you.

21:39

Get to try them things out without any

21:41

consequence because you own it all and

21:44

for us where and we may not own

21:46

it all.

21:47

Every step we take may be risking at

21:49

all. You don't tend

21:51

to want to commit

21:54

suicide.

21:56

You want to exist, Your body wants to exist,

21:58

You want to thrive one day, and

22:02

all of that can be upended by us

22:04

making just one false move. And

22:06

when I say false move, it could be the right move.

22:08

It could be the right move. But the person,

22:11

the purveyor, the one who has the ability to give

22:13

it and take it, has determined that it's

22:15

the wrong move.

22:16

And then that's it.

22:18

And so I don't think we're less curious.

22:20

I think we have less capacity for creativity

22:23

because of the conditions in which we exist.

22:26

I was saying they were less curious, not us.

22:28

We are curious. They are.

22:30

I don't know that they're less curious or that

22:33

it matters. I think what they are is

22:35

addicted to power, and that addiction allows

22:38

them to create.

22:39

All the solutions.

22:41

The second, third, fourth

22:43

tertiary option that don't work. You

22:45

know, they can do it because there's

22:48

nobody coming up right behind them that they

22:50

they nearby fear losing

22:53

their power to Even the rise of the

22:55

majority of black and brown people doesn't

22:57

scare them by itself, because the world is all

23:00

always been run by a smaller group

23:02

of the bourgeoisie that haves,

23:05

and it's only about ten percent of them.

23:07

The rest of us just on

23:09

the board. The rest of

23:11

us are just pieces on the board that can be moved.

23:13

Okay, speaking of movie, I'm moving, where'd

23:16

y'all take it go? She's like, I'm sitting down, I ain't got time

23:18

for go.

23:18

We're gonna go to Joe.

23:19

But I just want to remind y'all, Jule's question was not about

23:21

white people's powers, about how to use ours.

23:23

Go ahead, Joe, Well, good

23:25

evening.

23:26

I'm Joe take Edie, strategist,

23:28

investor and founder

23:30

of hashtag Win with black women. I

23:34

wanted to and I totally agree with

23:36

Joel in terms of we have to be careful

23:39

about pre empting the attacks.

23:42

I do also want to talk about this

23:44

notion of power because in these

23:46

attacks that we are facing,

23:49

particularly as black women, and I

23:51

believe we were in a conversation. I think Britt

23:53

is going to talk in a minute. But what

23:56

we see over and over again, whether

23:58

or not it is our sisters injustice,

24:01

our sisters in corporate wherever, it

24:03

is the same strategy. And it is about

24:06

the allure, the control,

24:09

and it's all about power and the

24:11

fear connected to that desire

24:13

for power leads to a

24:16

very ambitious, very well funded

24:18

strategy to attack and

24:20

we have to be very careful. I call it the

24:22

three d's. First, they will

24:24

work to discredit, largely

24:28

a black woman. That will be a discredit

24:30

a smear campaign. Second, a detachment,

24:33

and that is the most dangerous aspect

24:36

of the strategy is when we are detached

24:38

from our root and our base. Because

24:40

once you are isolated, and you're

24:42

talking about the lions and the hyenas, but

24:45

anytime you are in the wild, an

24:47

animal that is isolated

24:51

is most easily attacked. And

24:53

so once you are detached from

24:56

your people and your roots. Even

24:58

if you are detached from the roots of where you

25:00

know you come from and your strength, if you

25:02

are mentally detached, then

25:04

they can destroy you. And so we have to

25:06

be very careful that we cannot

25:09

afford to let not any one

25:11

of us be attacked, because an attack

25:13

on one of us is attack on all of us, and

25:15

it is an attack on us as a whole, as a people.

25:18

And so that is why we always have the truth,

25:20

speak truth to power, even if it's

25:23

uncomfortable, even if it's not necessarily

25:25

the most popular thing to do, because

25:28

that is how we will remain resilient,

25:31

and that is how we have to remain

25:33

as a people.

25:36

Thank you, Joe, Joe, Thank you

25:38

Joe.

25:39

You do realize you're being attacked in this way

25:41

because you are being so successful in so

25:43

many others. The shot

25:45

has to be fired over the bow so

25:48

that anybody who's looking at you, who's inspired

25:50

by you, who thinks they can come behind you and

25:53

have the temerity to do the same thing that

25:55

they see out loud in

25:58

public, for everybody to know this that

26:01

if you come for that crown, this

26:03

is how we level you. Some

26:05

people blame Fani for everything that's

26:08

happened in Georgia and the derailing of that case, and I

26:10

submit, and I said it on our pod. It doesn't

26:12

matter what she did or did not do. This

26:15

will have always been the strategy. If

26:18

it wasn't true, they would make it up. What

26:21

they make up, they then go further to fabricate

26:23

and to continue to

26:25

perpetuate, and they they have

26:28

no shame about lying left

26:30

right, backwards, upside down. But it's our lives,

26:32

our credibility, our community. And then too

26:34

often sometimes we're the first ones to say,

26:37

now you should have known better, and

26:39

then we're gonna be loud about you should have known. But you

26:41

should have known better is inside the house conversation.

26:45

It's not for everybody.

26:46

Yeah, we said about FAM. You ain't

26:48

talking about FAM. You to y'all, you don't care

26:51

about it.

26:51

You ain't you go there.

26:53

You ain't no rally, you.

26:54

Don't get no money, you don't give anything, you

26:56

don't pay no rent. There's no way

26:59

you are occupying space. So

27:01

some of our conversations have to be internal.

27:04

But I just have to say, there's

27:06

a poem that that one of those lines is it's when

27:08

things seem worse that you mustn't quit.

27:11

That's how you know. You getting close to the line,

27:13

that's how you That's how you know they scared.

27:16

That's how you know that they are.

27:18

They are right for their existence,

27:21

and the ones who are in alignment with them, are

27:23

the ones who have closest proximity to them.

27:25

That's how we lose white women voters. They're

27:28

getting killed over here. Yeah, but

27:30

because they're married to a white man and they have

27:32

a white child who's maybe a son,

27:34

their proximity keeps them connected

27:36

to this system that doesn't love

27:39

them, doesn't respect them, does nothing for

27:41

them. Into the passage of those

27:43

men in their lives, They're back to where

27:45

they were at the beginning.

27:47

Shame.

27:48

And I think, Brittany,

27:52

Yes, where's britt britt

27:54

The bishop got a word?

27:56

Bishop, We had a word.

27:57

I mean I had, I had a question you

28:00

want me to.

28:01

I do think though, to first

28:03

of all, Jule, last

28:06

week I was going through the Atlanta Airport and who's face

28:08

that I see on the ad yours? So

28:11

I just want to honor the work

28:13

that you are doing and the impact that you are

28:15

making on us, our people, our communities,

28:18

because even amidst all of the attacks,

28:20

baby, you are shining, and we love to see

28:22

it because we all shine with you when you shine.

28:27

The other thing I think to this point about

28:30

attacking black women is that

28:33

in every era of and Angela,

28:36

I want you to know. I just finished my video

28:39

about our sister Maryland. So I talked

28:41

about this in the video and I'm about to post it. But

28:44

what we know throughout history is that in every

28:46

single era of progress for marginalized

28:49

people, there is a promised backlash.

28:52

It is swift, it is thorough,

28:54

and it is precise. That pattern

28:56

will always repeat itself. Right, Jim

28:59

Crowd reconstruction, right,

29:01

Trump was the answer to Obama, These

29:03

things consistently happen. So after twenty

29:06

fourteen through twenty twenty, now

29:08

we're experiencing that intense backlash. And

29:10

the goal is always to make the

29:12

status quo permanent, right, that the

29:14

folks who hold power are able to hold

29:16

it forever, and anybody who would

29:19

dare try to snatch any morsel

29:21

of it from their hands be damned. So

29:24

if we know that that's true, and we know the

29:26

backlashes promise, and we know that that's

29:28

their blueprint, the good news is that we also

29:30

know our ancestral blueprints.

29:32

We know our history's blueprints.

29:34

We know what we've written, we know the stories

29:36

that we've shared with each other, we know the

29:39

lore and the legacy that we are

29:41

able to push through our not

29:44

just and to Joe take 's point, not just through our

29:46

written words and our formal

29:48

leadership, but through our connectivity, through our

29:50

community, through those ancestral,

29:52

rooted practices that we've been doing in

29:54

that white supremacy

29:56

separated us from right. The

29:59

function of whites premicy really is to separate

30:01

us from our own knowing. And going back to our

30:03

own knowing helps us sustain

30:06

because the truth of the matter is they come after

30:08

black women because they knows that nobody

30:10

else can be taken down quite

30:12

as swiftly as a black woman. They know

30:15

that we're not defended. They know that we're

30:17

not protected. Malcolm X already told us that,

30:19

right. So if we get so impenetrable,

30:23

if we get together so tight

30:26

and link our arms so well that nobody

30:29

and nothing can come in between us,

30:32

that we are the lions that they are afraid

30:34

of, permanently and perpetually, they

30:36

can't come for us because they'll know they can't

30:38

win.

30:39

And that's the work we have to do.

30:41

That's the purpose of accelerate her right, so

30:43

that we're actually building those connections intergenerationally,

30:46

and we're not just saying you got it, good luck, cist,

30:48

but actually saying.

30:49

No, I'm linking arms so that we can come along together.

30:52

Come out, preacher. Thank you Brittany Pagnet

30:55

cutting down the doors of the church. Now,

30:57

oh geez gets to it the question again.

31:00

But speaking of my

31:02

question and speaking of us moving along

31:04

together, to move up political

31:07

for us. Second, even though the personal

31:09

is political for black women, shout out to the kambah

31:11

Hea River Collective. There

31:14

is an understanding that I think we all have in

31:16

this moment ahead of this presidential

31:18

election where not only

31:20

is the top of the ticket important, abortion

31:23

rights are on the ballot, voting rights

31:25

are on the ballot, the

31:28

futures for our young people are on the ballot, guns

31:30

are on the ballot, Climate change, all of that stuff is

31:32

on the ballot, up and down.

31:34

So we know how important this election is.

31:36

And we know that we've seen some of the polling that if

31:38

the election we're done today, that

31:40

there are a number of black people who said they will

31:43

sit out. The good news is the election

31:45

is not happening today, and we still got

31:47

time to engage with our people, not con to

31:49

send our people into voting, but to listen, to

31:52

engage, to understand, and to meet folks

31:54

where they are, to invite all

31:56

of us into a different way of being to move

31:58

forward.

31:59

So this is my question. In

32:02

the era that we have right now,

32:05

we know that black

32:08

votes are.

32:08

Consistently taken for granted, and

32:11

if we are going to get our things,

32:13

not only on the agenda, but the policies that

32:15

truly benefit us past consistently

32:19

that we have to show up, like all of these

32:21

other groups and all of these other issues,

32:23

with the level of force and power and

32:25

fully operating that power. And we

32:28

also know what will happen to us and

32:30

the rest of the world if body loses.

32:33

So how are you all?

32:34

And we've talked about this, but I would love

32:37

for the room and your listeners to hear how

32:39

you all are threading that needle and

32:41

having those loving, respectful conversations

32:44

with our family members, with our cousins,

32:46

with the folks we sit next to on the

32:49

plane wherever, about how to

32:51

thread that needle to say, yes, we need to

32:53

stand in our full power, and we

32:55

need to make sure that we engage that radical

32:57

pragmatism that black people use all the time to

33:00

set the conditions for our fight.

33:01

Because I'd rather fight Biden than fight Trump.

33:04

I love that.

33:08

Feedback on this tiff.

33:09

Under Hey, I'll you know what I always

33:12

talk about the same thing. Thank you for that,

33:14

Brittany Pacnet Cunningham. For the folks who are listening

33:16

and can't see you appreciate

33:19

that. So I think one

33:21

of the wonderful things about our

33:23

podcast is we feel avoid and

33:26

so something that I take very seriously,

33:28

and like you said, britt it is professional.

33:30

It's my professional grooming, but also my

33:33

personal commitment, and that is disrupting

33:35

the narrative that the white run mainstream

33:38

media puts out there. And

33:40

so something we've talked about was

33:43

this narrative that you know, all

33:45

the black folks, but particularly black men, are

33:47

running to vote for Trump. Yes, that is,

33:50

there are people out there who are considering

33:52

voting for him. But I looked at this in

33:54

the media and I thought I would

33:56

no sooner lay the failure of this democracy

33:59

at the feet of black men. And you

34:01

ain't said lock about the white

34:03

conservative folks across every socioeconomic

34:06

demographic. And you want to keep promoting

34:09

this narrative and pushing that out there and pushing

34:11

that out there, and the disrespect it is when

34:13

black men ninety eight percent of whom

34:16

vote Democrat, and of course black

34:18

women do overwhelmingly, so They

34:20

also will plug people who don't have a

34:22

background in politics, are not well

34:24

versed, not well formed. But you put this

34:27

person on to be the voice of what you want to

34:29

talk about in serious issues for us, and

34:31

they only do that in the black community. Tell

34:33

me when the last time was that you heard Joe

34:36

Rogan on CNN talking about policy.

34:38

Tell me when they ask Amy

34:41

Schumer's opinion on what's happening

34:43

in the Middle East. But you have no problem

34:45

putting a comedian on, an actor, on

34:47

a rapper on to talk about serious issues.

34:50

I think we have to demand more respect for ourselves

34:53

and support independent media, and for

34:55

those of who still work in media, who are

34:57

in decision making positions in media, let

35:00

your voices, let our voices be heard.

35:03

It should not have to be it's okay for us

35:05

to speak a truth only after white folks

35:07

say it. Only after white folks make it acceptable

35:10

to drop a cultural reference or hip

35:12

hop music on and then the rest of the black folks

35:15

can do it, and now it's okay.

35:16

That erodes our trust in media.

35:18

And when we saw that happen in the twenty sixteen election,

35:21

there was an overwhelming amount of people who started

35:23

getting their news from social media, and

35:25

we later found out this was the Internet

35:28

Russia agency pumping false narrative

35:30

because they spent two seconds here and said, oh, I know

35:33

the way to mess up the election. They

35:35

treat black folks really messed up over there, So

35:37

let's make that our narrative.

35:39

So that's my personal commitment.

35:41

Every time we talk about something, I'm constantly giving

35:43

pushback on what the media says.

35:45

So thank you for that question.

35:59

I think this is a good time

36:01

for us to open up really into

36:03

solutions. One thing I know that we all

36:06

are clear about is the challenges

36:09

that we're up against. But this is a very

36:11

unique, unique space for us every year

36:13

to come together, even as Jovian

36:15

challenged us this morning around

36:18

stating our intentions, being

36:21

clear about what we want and making sure we're

36:23

creating this space, it's a safe space

36:25

here.

36:25

Native lampod too, is a safe space.

36:27

We say welcome home because we want people to

36:29

feel like this is a safe space to

36:32

discuss your issues, to

36:34

raise your questions. But I think even beyond

36:36

that, beyond this room, beyond this particular

36:38

session in time with this live podcast,

36:41

we want you all to feel like this convening

36:44

is a safe space so there's something you need

36:46

from this room. If you're under attack right now

36:48

and you haven't said it out loud, you've been afraid to

36:51

say it out loud.

36:52

You know.

36:53

If you are like I don't

36:55

want to be under attack, how can I prevent That's

36:57

what jul is saying. Really, I don't want

36:59

that attack because my mission in life is

37:02

not to be fighting them. It is to be providing

37:04

a pathway for us. What is the safest

37:06

way that we can ensure that? Those

37:08

are the kinds of things now, with the time we have remaining

37:11

that I want to make sure you all are sharing with us.

37:13

I'm calling on them for help because, as I said,

37:16

I've learned a remarkable lesson in this season in

37:18

life. I think I know a lot of the answers

37:20

I've learned. I don't have them all, and I'm good with

37:22

that. You know, ye, I see

37:24

your hand. I would love for you to make your way to this microphone

37:27

because that is what we have, so you'll be on camera.

37:30

A reminder that you stepping up here means you're

37:32

on camera and you have a consentant, is that Jessica?

37:35

Yes, yeah, Miss Jessica.

37:38

Where you're from? For the people who can't see

37:40

you on the podcast listening.

37:42

Hey everyone, my name is Jessica Nabango,

37:44

and I love that you brought up the idea of solutions

37:47

and that's just what I want to speak to because

37:50

for me in this era, in the last basically

37:53

since twenty twenty four, for me, I've been talking

37:55

to friends about the blacklash and

37:57

specifically financially because

38:00

for a lot of us who are creators or you know.

38:02

Work as gig workers.

38:04

Essentially where gig workers looking for speaking

38:06

engagements and brand deals and whatnot, it has

38:08

it hasn't dried up completely hopefully like

38:11

luckily for me, it's not completely dry,

38:13

but we've definitely seen it scale

38:15

back.

38:16

And so one thing we need to discuss

38:19

I feel like.

38:19

More of and I'm going to work with Kim for next year

38:21

for this, and I love the announcement of the venture

38:24

fund is I think we have to discuss

38:26

finances more but integrated,

38:29

right so we know, like there's Tiffany the Budget

38:31

Nesto, who's amazing, we know about the podcast

38:34

that exists, but I think we need more

38:36

integration. I think that black

38:38

people generally don't like to talk about money. They

38:40

definitely don't want to talk about debt. They don't want to talk about

38:42

all of these things.

38:43

But I think it's enough of it.

38:45

You so what.

38:47

Right exactly say it's not

38:50

enough of it, But it's like, how do we take

38:52

what we have and grow it without having

38:54

to wait for more income?

38:55

Right?

38:56

So I'm someone I've been investing in the stock market

38:58

for a long time and I have like a variety investments,

39:00

whether it's art, it's stock, it's real

39:02

estate, whatever it is. I think we have

39:05

to have more open conversation about

39:07

that in a very practical manner, but

39:09

also integrated into social justice

39:11

conversation because the only way we're going

39:13

to survive is if we can take care of ourselves.

39:16

And in order to take care of ourselves, we have to

39:18

be able to have the money we had, no matter how little

39:21

or how much, we have to be able to take that

39:23

money and grow it. Like I love the brands that are

39:25

hearing, there's so many things that we can purchase, and

39:27

I'm here to buy.

39:28

All of the things.

39:29

But I also want to know if I see you with a Chanel

39:31

bag, I know you better have investments

39:34

ten times that and if you don't, that's

39:36

a conversation that we need to be having.

39:39

You heard some feelings.

39:40

No, it's

39:42

not.

39:44

It's on the podcast again as a reminder it is

39:46

being recorded, but it is a family

39:48

conversation.

39:49

I love this so much, Jessica,

39:51

in part because you were.

39:52

Like, I have investments, and you listed

39:55

the variety of investments for so

39:57

many people who are serving as influencers

40:00

and even are on shows.

40:01

That is not the case.

40:02

I'm gonna tell you. I hope I'll get in trouble with

40:04

our with our girl thread, but we have some

40:07

of the folks in here who are on it. We

40:09

had to have a conversation about tax lawyers.

40:12

I was just talking. I was having lunch and talking

40:14

to people about tax strategy.

40:15

We had to have a conversation about tax lawyers

40:17

because of tax leans and tax

40:20

debt and not and not knowing

40:22

that once you left your job, now

40:24

you're responsible for paying quarterly taxes.

40:26

It feels really basic to people who grow up

40:28

in business. It was not basic for some of

40:31

us, or for some of us.

40:33

I'm gonna put my daddy business others some of us who

40:35

had dads who did businesses and still just

40:37

collected the tax debt.

40:38

You understand.

40:39

Sorry daddy but like this is the thing.

40:42

We have to have these conversations. I'm

40:44

gonna come find you because I'm gonna come learn.

40:46

Oh yeah, forty four.

40:47

And don't know enough about this still out here reckless

40:50

okay, So thank you.

40:52

I'm twenty four and don't know enough about it. So

40:55

thank you.

40:55

I love it, Tim, It's so fun being

40:58

your mentor.

40:59

Thank you, thank you, my sister. I

41:01

would I'll just say, this isn't a solution. This is a

41:03

problem.

41:03

But a lot of us, Jessica

41:06

to talk about public speaking, and a

41:08

lot of us our income is clunky,

41:10

you know. So you may get a big

41:13

load of money from January to March.

41:16

And I know, for me, i'm you

41:18

know, hood rich sometimes and it's not that I'm

41:20

balling. I don't own a Chanel bag,

41:22

I'll tell you, but I'm not giving

41:24

the government my money because I'm gonna hold

41:26

on to this money because I have to. I

41:28

used to wait till the last minute to pay bills because

41:31

I never knew when the ground was gonna drop from under me, and I

41:33

need that money to eat. Twenty years later,

41:35

I still have that mentality and that PTSD.

41:38

Growing up poor and black in this country is traumatic.

41:41

You carry it with you for a long time. And

41:43

so now if I get a big pot, if I get

41:45

six figures of income, I'm not giving

41:48

that half to the government. I'm waiting until

41:50

I get the next big income to

41:52

put half of that money away because I'm nervous

41:55

about when I'm going to get another check.

41:57

So that's my reality. I think that's a lot of the

42:00

reality for a lot of people out there. So of all the

42:02

people who are in this room from financial institutions,

42:05

please come find me or I will come find you.

42:09

That that that fear, and I like it

42:12

makes sense for all of us. But it's not just individual

42:14

it's because the system is

42:17

acting to protect itself. The

42:19

reason why they don't worry the same way we worry

42:21

is because they know about all of those safety

42:24

nets that exist for them, and

42:26

those same safety nets don't exist

42:28

for us, the same way you misuse

42:31

some funds from that recovery.

42:35

I saw black folks being led through

42:37

the federal courthouse in my area, Like,

42:40

you know, there.

42:41

Was a I ain't gonna be staff

42:44

that that'd be uh.

42:45

I was gonna say, like it was a fish fry, but it was

42:48

my and what I was going to say about

42:50

that was horribly stereotypical.

42:52

But I love fish, and I'll throw a fish

42:54

try anyway.

42:55

But the but the point, the point

42:57

is is that they were marching us through there

42:59

like it was the marching one hundred a Florida and m

43:01

University right on. These

43:04

little puny nothing nothing, nothing,

43:06

but they get the education. They fall

43:08

into the loop, They fall into the whole first,

43:11

and then they create a salve

43:13

so that they never have to fall into it again.

43:16

But for us, this no south.

43:19

We were a distraction in the first place.

43:21

I see Lovey walk up.

43:23

And since we're and since we're

43:25

in our time where we're we're getting some solutions,

43:28

we're gonna get one.

43:28

I know she got a good one.

43:29

This sister, if you don't know, is in New

43:32

York Times best selling author four times,

43:34

yea four times. And

43:37

Lovey is gonna be my one sister friend

43:39

today. Who's gonna say her name and where she's

43:41

from? Because the rest of y'all ain't following no directions.

43:44

What's up with that, y'all?

43:45

Like you know who I am? Look me up me ba,

43:47

go ahead.

43:48

So I'm loving Jay Jones and I'm an author,

43:51

speaker and book advisor.

43:52

I am from Chicago

43:55

by way of Nigeria.

43:57

And one of the things that

43:59

I think is a solution to a lot of our problems

44:01

as a community is vulnerability.

44:05

Whether it is our community

44:07

building, whether it's in finance,

44:09

whether it's in books.

44:11

It's about our inability to be

44:14

siloed.

44:15

One allow ourselves to be soilo because I think officially

44:18

becomes a choice that we choose over and over

44:20

again.

44:21

Right, we know the ways of systems, we know the games

44:23

that are being played.

44:24

We see the playbook, and yet

44:26

we're saying, how am I surprised

44:29

that this game is being played? So

44:31

I think one of the things that we need is to just

44:33

start telling the truth, even when it scares

44:36

us, and I mean the truth of I feel

44:38

lost, I'm drowning, I'm overwhelmed, i

44:40

am broke.

44:41

My company is crumbling.

44:42

Mine did last year shout out, and

44:45

what saved me was vulnerability to

44:48

my TPG sisters, to my mentors,

44:50

and I was like, listen, I am drowning.

44:52

I'm about to be bankrupt in three months, I'm.

44:55

Firing my whole team. And as it's

44:57

happening, them holding me is

44:59

what saved my life. Them giving

45:01

me advice, but.

45:02

It started with me saying I need help.

45:05

Now.

45:05

What's happened is it's been beaten out of us,

45:08

it's been traumatized out of us. We've

45:10

been told not to trust each other, and

45:12

then we walk around walking alone

45:15

when none of this.

45:16

Was ever supposed to be alone.

45:18

And I've had the privilege of having

45:21

access to some rooms where I'm like, let

45:23

me really figure out what's happening here so

45:25

I can tell my people what's going on. So

45:28

one day last year, I ended up in a room where it

45:31

was an invite only room for best selling

45:33

authors. To be in the room, you had

45:35

to either have been a New York Times bestseller or

45:37

have sold two hundred and fifty thousand copies of your books.

45:40

In that room, there were only two black women, and the other

45:43

black women there was there because I made sure she was

45:45

there, and I'm sitting in this room

45:47

and we spent nine hours exchanging

45:50

all the tips on how we all became bestsellers.

45:53

And what I realized is all of them were

45:55

best sellers because whenever one of them was coming out

45:57

of the book, they would all take a week

46:01

and sit with this person and say, so, what are you doing for your

46:03

book, and then we wonder

46:05

why we are not winning. There's

46:08

an intentional I

46:10

need your help.

46:11

Please show up for me. What do you have. I

46:14

need us to really start being honest

46:17

with each other.

46:18

Don't flex about the Chanelle bag if

46:20

you're struggling. Also, I need

46:22

you to say, hey, I need your help, because

46:25

when I would say personally, anybody

46:27

who's coming out with the book, I'm gonna.

46:28

Do a book session after this.

46:30

But I have been so upset for the last year

46:32

when all these books by black women are coming

46:35

out and failing, and I'm.

46:36

Like, why didn't you call me? Yes, I

46:38

could have helped you.

46:40

Like after the fact, I'm like, I could have helped you, and they're

46:42

like, I.

46:42

Just didn't think you would.

46:44

I'm here so I need all

46:46

of us to really start being honest

46:48

with each other, show up for each

46:50

other for real. And when somebody tells you

46:52

I will help you, believe them. And

46:55

I stand here today. One

46:57

thing I know I can help everybody within this book and

47:00

in this room books. I don't

47:02

want one person to come out with a book

47:04

in this room and it tanks because

47:06

I have all our numbers. Now I know what every book

47:09

is selling. Our books are failing, and

47:11

it hurts my feeling every time. I'm like, y'all

47:13

could have called me so number

47:16

one solution, let's just start being honest

47:18

and vulnerable with each other and know we are

47:20

all here to be helpmates and that's

47:22

how we shift culture, and that's how we shift everything.

47:26

Thank you. I love that. Thank

47:28

you for your vulnerability.

47:29

Can y'all do me one favor because

47:31

I think it's so important Again, Jovin,

47:33

I'm still in all your material today, but

47:36

can you just look at your neighbor and

47:38

say I need help? That's

47:43

all I need y'all to say, because we're still recording this podcast,

47:46

but I think it's so important to say

47:49

that, to do that because we have

47:51

to be vulnerable. Lovey, you are so

47:54

right. So that's a great place to start. So we

47:56

know our first solution is vulnerability,

47:58

being honest about your text it and your

48:01

chanail bag, being honest. If

48:03

you need help with your book, let me said, I'm here. That

48:05

is a New York Times bestseller four times

48:07

over.

48:08

That's a formula. She got it figured out. Why

48:10

you want to ask her? What is were talking

48:12

about?

48:14

Getting Angela in space is well? First

48:16

of all, on the books. I just want to shout out real quick doctor

48:18

Sharon Malone, who has a book out right

48:20

now, girl Women's Hea Doctor

48:22

Malone wa wave in there so I ain't know.

48:25

Yeah, so she has a book out. I talk to Lovely

48:27

if you haven't already, sare okay?

48:30

Good.

48:32

So I just wanted to say really.

48:33

Quickly thank you to Kim Blackwell because

48:35

this conference is a setting of

48:37

vulnerability. And

48:40

last year Angela and I were on the stage with

48:42

doctor Joy, who

48:45

moderated a conversation with them. That's

48:52

okay, well, why you

48:54

come up with something I want to say

48:56

on that stage. I mean, it was really just like a conversation.

49:00

And I'll shout out Angela again. She'll deflect

49:03

again. I'm gonna shout out again. Angela

49:05

is a kind of sister who you don't have to say

49:07

I need help. She sees you and

49:09

says, I know you need help, and I'm showing up.

49:12

And there's something about that because if you say, well,

49:14

what do you need, that's a burden to

49:16

me because now I'm trying to think of it. Sometimes it's

49:18

helpful to say here's what I think you need, and

49:20

I'm gonna do it. You know I'm gonna uber eat you

49:22

dinner tonight, or I'm gonna you know, I'll keep your

49:24

kids, or I'll come over and cook you dinner.

49:26

Whatever that is.

49:28

So last year I talked about, you know, I have a lot

49:30

of business in New York. I work in New York, I live

49:32

in DC. I have to be there half the time. And

49:35

right when I walked off the stage, Susan Chapman,

49:37

wave your hair hands, Susan Chapman, she

49:40

came up to me and said, I have an apartment

49:43

in Brooklyn. It's yours whenever

49:45

you need it, and I have not moved out since I've

49:47

been there for a year.

49:48

No, I'm kady, but it's beautiful.

49:51

It's beautiful.

49:54

The air.

49:55

But I did. I took Susan up

49:57

on that. I stated her her beautiful

50:00

place.

50:00

But that is the kind of thing where she didn't

50:03

wait for me to actually just showed up and said, Okay,

50:05

I heard you say this, I have this, and we

50:07

have to be that for each other in

50:10

ways like Angela, I will say, does

50:12

it the most, but in ways that it stretches us and

50:14

bends us. Now, my moment of vulnerability

50:16

is when I have extended myself.

50:19

I've gotten my feelings hurt a few times,

50:22

I've been betrayed or somebody say something slick

50:24

to me, and at this age and stage

50:26

in life, I retreat, you

50:28

know, And it's like, I'm insular. I'm grateful

50:31

to be surrounded by women who I know, I

50:33

trust. I'm you know, cocooned in that

50:35

space and I appreciate it, and men who

50:37

have you know, Andrew has definitely been

50:40

a source of inspiration and listening

50:42

ear and personally and professionally, but

50:45

I have I can get to a place where it's like, if

50:47

I don't know you, I don't want to talk to you because I've

50:50

had too many times, or somebody I

50:52

can talk to you, but I'm not. I might not share something

50:54

as personal because I've had somebody say something slick

50:56

and it bothers me.

50:58

Uh.

50:58

And I've pushed through those moments. But I know after

51:00

my show was canceled, I retreated.

51:02

I didn't want to hear from people. There were so many people

51:04

saying things about me and speaking about me with certainty,

51:07

and it had never met me before. I was under attack and

51:09

it just put me in such an emotional

51:12

hole. And thankfully

51:14

I've been surrounded by people that I'm climbing out

51:16

of that. So I just want to say,

51:18

if you've been in that space, you're not alone in that space

51:21

either. And when I see other people and I can tell you in

51:23

that emotional hole, my vulnerability

51:25

is to share mine and then extend a hand to you to

51:27

lift you out of that place, because I know what that feels like.

51:40

We see Bevvy. Thanks to we see

51:42

Bevvy, Bevy Smith. Hi, I'm

51:44

Bevy Smith. I'm from Harlem, USA.

51:47

Yes you are to say I was from

51:50

She's from Harlem to TV show as well,

51:52

if you're.

51:54

Okay, I'm a.

51:55

Young actress as well. I'm an angel

51:57

new But I wanted

51:59

to say, Kim, what you've done here

52:01

is so beautiful and it's very very powerful.

52:04

But I will tell you this, I've

52:08

been doing a lot of hello and hi to everyone

52:11

and smiling, and I've not always

52:13

received it back. So

52:15

what I want to say is

52:17

I want to challenge everyone in this room

52:20

to say hello to every single black

52:22

woman that you see. Okay, I

52:24

shouldn't even have to say that, but you should. And

52:27

the other thing I want to challenge us because it's

52:29

a lot of us in this room who know

52:31

each other. It's a lot of powerful and

52:33

I'm just gonna say, it's a lot of powerful clicks

52:35

up in here, but not

52:37

everyone is a part of a little.

52:39

Crew and a click and a club and all

52:41

that.

52:41

I'm very fortunate I know a lot of y'all, so

52:43

I could go up in all the spaces. But

52:46

because I was once a nerd girl who was

52:49

bullied, I'm very sensitive

52:51

when I see people that are shy,

52:55

that are a little you know, insular, that

52:58

are sitting at the table bull

53:00

and it's kind of like along, like

53:02

kind of off to the side tonight.

53:05

When we see any of those people, can

53:07

we bring them into the phone. Yes, that's

53:12

a good life lesson.

53:13

We have to do that because

53:15

there's so many of us who are suffering, and chemists

53:18

built this right. But if we

53:20

let those little people just sit on the sidelines

53:23

by themselves, they won't come back next year, yeah,

53:25

because.

53:25

They'll be like, yeah, it was nice.

53:27

But if you don't know the people, if

53:29

you're not in the crew, if you're not in the clique,

53:31

it's not really good. That's what happens out

53:33

a lot of conferences. So

53:37

I want to make sure that folks feel welcome,

53:40

and so that's my little I.

53:42

Love that, Bevy. Thank you, thank you,

53:44

Bevy.

53:45

That's easy. We talked about vulnerability.

53:47

We're talking about transparency, trusting

53:50

someone to be your help when you need

53:52

help, being able to say that we see. Are

53:54

you coming at Nikki?

53:56

Okay, Nikki, you got Nikki

53:58

a boss, a real boss from my heart

54:00

in the building, Nikki, tell everybody

54:03

your name where you're from.

54:04

My name is Nicky Sparrow. I

54:06

am from Baltimore, with Baltimore,

54:09

not Baltimore for the people. That's not from Baltimore.

54:12

But I live in North Florida, Saint Augustine

54:14

area. So I'm so glad to

54:16

be here. Miss Kim, you are absolutely

54:19

jewel. And as you was talking Tiffany,

54:22

I was sitting there like Tiffany, I are a lot

54:24

alike in the way that I'm

54:26

very protected with my emotions, but I

54:28

help everybody naturally. I

54:30

just want to make sure everybody happy, eat and everything else.

54:33

Oh, for goodness, what is tip?

54:35

As I said it, But.

54:36

Last year I came here kind

54:39

of like not knowing anybody.

54:40

I was gonna be in the corner.

54:42

Melissa and I have become like this first

54:44

of all the the yes,

54:49

thank you, the the CMO

54:52

of the Atlanta Hawks, and then also

54:54

yes, looks she had to take a quick call, but

54:56

she'll be back. But even from

54:58

there, just the call, look at you. I'm

55:03

the Melissa who I have since

55:06

connected to and when I'm in Atlanta,

55:08

making sure that I connect with her. And then Kim, no,

55:11

I'm like him if it's anything here, this was

55:13

going on, this is who and everything else. So I

55:15

wanted to tell and I said this to Kim. I have never

55:18

experienced sisterhood like this. I

55:20

have been traditionally the only one that looked

55:22

like me in the room, and that has become

55:25

some of my protection of not allowing

55:28

all of the sensitivit because I got to be strong,

55:30

because I make sure in the room. I got to

55:32

make sure Melissa get in the room. I got to make

55:34

sure doctor Kee get in the room, and everybody

55:37

else and making sure that I'm plugging them in. So

55:39

sometimes when you don't see somebody being sensitive,

55:42

it's not that they're not sensitive when inside.

55:44

It's because first of all, you don't know what they have to

55:47

do even to be in the room,

55:49

yes, and to maintain

55:52

everything that comes along with them when

55:54

people don't.

55:55

Want you in the room.

55:56

But I'm getting a little sassy now that I'm over

55:58

fifty because when people say who are you, I said,

56:00

you can google me.

56:01

And her support pages.

56:03

That's me because I can tell they're not

56:05

asking anybody else in the room who they are

56:07

because they feel like they belong there.

56:09

So thank you all for being you.

56:11

Kim, you are absolutely a jewel,

56:14

and so thank you for being you, your

56:16

vision and everything else. Thank you to

56:19

all of my iHeart family out here, doctor

56:21

joy Derby and my Native

56:24

Pot.

56:24

And I wouldn't be me if it wasn't like

56:26

whatever.

56:27

And any of your business people that want to sponsor

56:30

the Native Pot let us know.

56:32

Thank you, Thank you. We're

56:34

talking about right as.

56:36

You were talking about early we had these conversations

56:38

like in order for them to be supported

56:41

and you want to hear them talk authentically

56:44

and be honest, it absolutely

56:46

take the sponsorships because you have so many

56:48

companies say we want that, but then

56:50

we don't want that because then they don't want to be

56:52

associated with that. And the part of it is

56:55

is not we don't want this, we need

56:57

this in order for us.

56:59

To have this.

56:59

It does. Let's sake sponsorships.

57:01

So if you're interested, I'll be right over there,

57:03

or you can talk to one of them and we can

57:05

make sure that

57:08

sales starts and we'll make sure that you're well taken

57:10

care of.

57:12

Thanks, we love you. In

57:15

the last five minutes that we have, we do really.

57:17

Want to open it up for folks who are feeling

57:20

that kind of attack we were talking about earlier.

57:22

It's not that you would be a case

57:25

study, but it gives us something to work

57:27

toward. Even as we leave this when we leave

57:29

Native lampod our safe space, it

57:32

doesn't mean that we have to walk out of safety. It

57:34

doesn't mean that even after we walk out of these ballroom

57:37

doors, that you're on your own. What we

57:39

hope that we model from here and out

57:41

of the good teaching of Jovian and brit

57:44

We had two preachers with us today, that

57:47

we stay in that intention and that we model

57:49

that intention throughout this conference

57:52

and throughout our lives. So if you are feeling

57:54

attacked or a different type of pressure, we invite

57:56

you to come forward. We will talk to you,

57:59

and we'll also make sure that our sisters and our

58:01

dear brothers, the brothers that are around here two will

58:03

also surround you.

58:05

I can I offer one brother

58:07

on the stage is I

58:10

was thinking as the women were talking in so

58:12

many powerful testimonies about

58:15

what keeps me from sharing

58:17

of vulnerability, And part

58:19

of it is is too many

58:21

experiences where you've heard

58:25

from other people who weren't part of the

58:27

assist to you all

58:30

about the assist, and then some because

58:32

somebody didn't ran and told that, which.

58:37

Certainly causes me to shut.

58:38

Down that I don't want to I don't want

58:40

to make myself available in

58:43

my crisis to ask for help.

58:45

Then you offer it and you do it, and then the world

58:48

knows about what went down

58:51

when it was never their business. And so I

58:53

think part of it has to be a

58:55

level of trust, one intention.

58:58

If I help you, saying way I feel

59:00

about loaning money, I'm almost

59:02

writing it off in my head that I'm never getting that

59:05

money back. But you came to me in a moment

59:07

of need, and I hope to have

59:09

met that need for you. And what.

59:12

I ain't give you no money, you cause

59:15

me problems in my house.

59:16

So the the I just

59:18

think if we disassociate

59:21

ourselves from outcome. So

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the thing that I did to help you I did it because

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I love you, I care for you. I want you to thrive,

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go forth. And

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what if they go on and go thrive, that's great.

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If they go get a Chanell bag because they felt

59:37

great and they needed to celebrate, then

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I'm not mad at that Chanell bag. The season

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was different when they bought that bag, and

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now the season's changed, and that's not

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an indictment on their priorities.

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And so I just if you're doing the

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if when.

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We go outside of ourselves to extend something

59:55

to somebody, I just feel like

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Mother Earth wants us to be giving it as an

59:59

off, not with an expectation

1:00:02

of the return, the outcome, the well

1:00:04

since I did that, she ought to be doing this is that in the

1:00:06

thirty you shouldn't have no bills that are late

1:00:08

now because it's not and

1:00:11

all of us.

1:00:11

Suffer from it.

1:00:12

But it's a real

1:00:15

inhibitor from people showing

1:00:17

up as their full selves and their

1:00:20

need and their vulnerability and their

1:00:22

hurt and their absence of grace

1:00:25

because they know you may be talking with

1:00:27

four tongue because

1:00:29

eventually now you're shaming me for

1:00:32

my need.

1:00:34

I only a gift with the receipt I want

1:00:37

to.

1:00:37

We have two and a half minutes remaining, and I want

1:00:39

us to close out with calls

1:00:42

to action.

1:00:43

So Andrew, why don't you start us

1:00:45

off?

1:00:45

Release judgment? Release

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the judgment. It ain't got nothing to do

1:00:50

with you, nothing to do with you.

1:00:52

Those hateful comments that show up in the inbox. You

1:00:55

don't know me well enough to hate me like that. Now,

1:00:57

maybe something about my life has pricked

1:00:59

you, and so you're getting

1:01:02

your rocks off on me because you can't tell the person

1:01:04

who you need to be telling. So just let

1:01:06

the judgment go. Doesn't

1:01:08

advantage you.

1:01:10

I love that.

1:01:11

I'm gonna follow up on what Lovey said,

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Let's make black women bestsellers. So my

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call to action is go by doctor Sharon Malone's

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book Please Girl and Women.

1:01:21

And she's talking about stuff that we all experience

1:01:23

in here. I'm about ten degrees hotter

1:01:25

than everybody else. I don't know, that's what I feel like.

1:01:27

I'm twenty four, not at twelve.

1:01:30

I have early early perimental Paul,

1:01:32

Okay, got it is that a thing?

1:01:34

Doctor Malone? She said?

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No, Well, can I say?

1:01:38

I was in DC and doctor

1:01:41

Sharon Malone walked up to me and she says, you know you're

1:01:43

Perimantal Pauls, A'm like, what hell?

1:01:46

And I was she was looking out, She was

1:01:48

just looking. My

1:01:51

call to action is about

1:01:54

these attacks that we're witnessing. Marilyn

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Moseby. Please get familiar

1:02:00

with her name. If you're not, please sign

1:02:03

the petition. If you haven't, we are

1:02:05

requesting a presidential pardon for

1:02:08

Marilyn Moseby. I'm telling you

1:02:10

all, she is not the only one. I can give

1:02:12

you a list of black women prosecutors,

1:02:14

a list of black elected officials who

1:02:16

have been targeted. Please get familiar

1:02:19

with that case. My last call

1:02:21

to action is to

1:02:23

support what Bevy stated. I hear you,

1:02:25

Sis, I love you. I'm gonna make sure

1:02:27

I work overtime. This is a reunion for me, so

1:02:29

I am so excited to see my friends, but

1:02:32

it would be so much better and richer if

1:02:34

my friend circle grew in this room, in

1:02:37

at this conference, and so can. We will lift you

1:02:39

up and honor your spirit in that way, making sure we're

1:02:41

bringing everyone in. And as we always

1:02:43

say on this podcast, if y'all

1:02:45

are a wake back there, we're on a music y'all.

1:02:48

Always say on this podcast, welcome

1:02:51

y'all. How many days for that election.

1:02:55

Morning.

1:02:56

Thank you for joining the Natives intention

1:02:58

of what the info and on little latest regulum

1:03:01

mccross connected to the statements that

1:03:03

you leave on our socials. Thank you sincerely

1:03:06

for the patients reason for your choice is

1:03:08

cleared, so grateful it took to

1:03:10

execute roads. Thank you for serve,

1:03:12

defend and protect the truth.

1:03:14

Even in peace. For welcome home to all of the

1:03:16

natives wait, thank you, Welcome

1:03:19

y'all.

1:03:19

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