We work harder than you think, calling doesn't always look conventional, and other things your church leaders wish you knew.

Throughout the past year of interviews, I asked people extra questions and this one drew the most passionate response by far: "What do you wish people knew about your job?"

On this Music and the Church episode, Darrell St. Romain, Deanna Witkowski, Pr. Lisa Heffernan, Anita Smallin, J. J. Wright, Chelsea Chen, and Anny Stevens-Gleason share what they wish people knew about their ministries in the church.

Here are the previous episodes that featured today's guests:

Chelsea Chen on Artist Residencies and Concert Series in the ChurchPr. Lisa Heffernan on Welcoming People with Disabilities in Church Music MinistryAnita Smallin on "A Noisy Church Is a Living Church"Darrell St. Romain on Congregational Singing at MassAnny Stevens-Gleason on Getting Youth Invested in Music MinistryDeanna Witkowski on Congregational SingingJ. J. Wright on Leading the Notre Dame Folk Choir

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Resources Mentioned on This Episode:

"Ten Things This Youth Minister Wants You to Know" by Anita SmallinThe Business of Being a Writer by Jane Friedman"The Canticle of Turning"Frogs Without Legs Can't Hear by David W. Anderson and Paul Hill

What do YOU wish people knew about your ministry in the church?