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No. Install your joy you gave

0:02

them your attention. Your. The

0:04

gatekeeper up here your the generator up.

0:07

Your. The commander up here. Emotions

0:09

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0:11

ninety seconds, the three minutes the motion actually

0:13

pass when you think about it like I'm

0:15

kind of happy. But. You

0:17

can't Intellectual eyes, happiness and gratitude for

0:20

a lot of people they have degenerated.

0:22

You. Have to take as a job. I have

0:24

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0:26

have to summon the best of who I

0:28

am. It doesn't happen by default. Most people

0:30

are actually happy. They're just unhappy that the

0:32

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5:30

How to own your emotions. So you don't run

5:32

around saying stuff like, they

5:35

didn't make me happy, or

5:37

I left that company because

5:39

it wasn't making me fulfilled. Well,

5:42

happiness, fulfillment, all of those

5:44

things aren't something that

5:47

someone else can make you. And

5:50

I think that ownership process of

5:52

our own joy is a lifelong process,

5:55

a moment-by-moment process. In

5:58

the church, people say. stole my

6:00

joy, then what in the world were you doing

6:02

putting it where they could steal it? You

6:05

should have locked it up. You should have had it somewhere

6:07

safe. You should have put your joy somewhere other than just

6:09

how somebody else treats you. But really, like I told you,

6:12

in so many of these mindsets, these are the

6:14

things that I preach to me because

6:17

nobody is going to vote me

6:19

for the naturally happiest human alive.

6:22

That's not my disposition. That

6:24

doesn't mean that it can't be

6:26

my destination, though. I

6:28

can become more joyful. I can become more

6:30

grateful. I can practice these

6:32

things. And that's why I

6:34

brought the world's best life coach to help me. So

6:36

make me happy, Brendan. It's your job. Make

6:39

me happy. Make me joyful. I don't know if I can

6:41

make you happy. I'll start with the coaching piece. He

6:44

said a second ago, they stole my

6:46

joy. And a lot of people say

6:48

that. I say, no one stole your

6:50

joy. You gave them your attention. Wow.

6:53

That's what happened. You took

6:55

your... That's what happened. That's what

6:57

happened. No one took it.

6:59

You gave them your attention. You gave

7:02

them your belief. You gave them your

7:05

thought pattern instead of owning

7:07

the fact that you control it. You're the

7:09

gatekeeper up here. You're the generator up

7:11

here. You're the commander up here. And

7:14

when you know you own this, you start

7:16

to own your emotions. And I always love

7:18

to tell people there's a difference between emotion

7:21

and feelings. Different. The nice

7:24

way to think about it is we have

7:26

impulsive emotions and

7:28

we have ongoing feelings. And

7:30

let me give you the difference. If you

7:33

go into a haunted house, right?

7:35

And someone jumps out from the corner. That

7:37

fear that hits you, that is

7:39

automatic, it's physical and it's impulsive.

7:42

Fear just hits you. You get scared, right? But

7:44

if you go home at night and now it's seven

7:46

o'clock at night, you're safe in your house, the door is

7:49

sort of locked. Your husband or your spouse is there. Things

7:51

are good. And you still, you

7:53

start kind of getting spooked. I

7:55

feel like something as bad is going to

7:58

happen. Now that ongoing. feeling,

8:00

you're generating that with your thoughts. The

8:04

first one, immediate fear, scared,

8:07

that's impulsive, that's automatic. An emotion is like

8:09

that, just happens in your body. But

8:12

psychologists found emotions pass. Usually

8:15

in 90 seconds to three minutes, the emotion

8:17

actually pass. Now our thoughts really

8:19

do take over and our thoughts are

8:21

forming a story. Our

8:24

thoughts are telling us what something means.

8:26

Our thoughts are either taking

8:28

command of us or we're going to take command of

8:31

them. Because we can say, wait, I'm in the house,

8:33

everything's okay, oh I just got scared

8:35

earlier and I'm holding on to that.

8:40

Unhappiness is very similar. Something

8:43

can happen, it's an unhappy

8:45

situation. Someone was mean to us,

8:48

you know, something awful happened. It makes

8:51

me feel bad. There's grief there, there's

8:53

hurt there and we can feel that,

8:56

like in that immediate emotion. I'm just like, oh, I

8:59

feel bad. But if

9:01

later on it's an ongoing feeling

9:03

of unhappiness, I promise you're architecting

9:06

your thoughts in such a

9:08

way that's creating the ongoing happiness.

9:11

So think about it, is the situations

9:13

of your life, the bad events of

9:15

your life, are they still dragging on

9:18

in the feelings of today? That's

9:20

where we say, oh, I got to take

9:22

back command of the architecture of my thoughts

9:24

here. Because that's what's really

9:26

screwing me up. That's what's stealing my joy,

9:29

is I'm not architecting

9:31

the thoughts that would give me that. And then

9:34

you hear me teach all the time. I'm

9:37

always sharing this idea that my

9:40

dominant metaphor in my life is

9:42

about a power plant. I love

9:44

it. Y'all listen to the power plant. This change

9:46

in life is crazy. This changes my life every

9:48

day. And the

9:50

idea is, you know, the

9:53

power plant doesn't have energy. It actually

9:55

generates energy. So

9:58

technically, a power plant takes... energy

10:00

from one level of resource, a

10:02

rushing stream or solar or whatever,

10:05

it's taking energy from one level,

10:07

lower level of utilization. It's

10:10

transforming that energy into

10:12

a higher level of utilization and it's

10:14

transmitting it. And

10:16

I love it because the power plant doesn't have energy. Oh, it's

10:20

taking energy from one lower level, it's

10:22

transforming it and transmitting it to a

10:24

higher level. That means I can do that in my own life.

10:26

You know, I'm feeling a low level of energy today. I

10:29

don't have motivation. I don't have joy.

10:31

I don't have love in my heart.

10:33

Actually, I woke up kind of grumpy.

10:35

Well, that's a low level of utilization. It's

10:38

my job. How do I take the energy

10:40

of the world or my situation,

10:42

my life, my relationships and how do I take

10:44

ownership as a power plant and how do I

10:47

up level that? Well, I

10:49

do that with my thoughts. My thoughts are

10:51

my turbines. My thoughts

10:53

are the thing that can spin that energy

10:55

up into a higher level. And now I

10:57

can be a person of goodness. I can

10:59

be a person of cheer. I can be

11:01

a person of joy. And it is that

11:03

choice to be the power plant of the

11:05

feelings of my life that has

11:08

made my life more fulfilling because before that

11:10

I was at the whim of everybody else

11:12

and everything else. Because see most

11:14

of the world right now, it's a pretty

11:16

low level energy. There's a

11:19

lot of division and vitriol

11:21

and hate and us against them.

11:23

It's low level. But you

11:25

can say, I'm not going to live in that

11:28

mud puddle. I'm going

11:30

to take the water out of that mud puddle.

11:32

I'm going to turn it through these turbines of

11:34

joy and faith and reasoning and logic and a

11:37

desire for an extraordinary life. I'm going to spin

11:39

that up and boom, I'm going to feel different

11:41

and transmit different. Yes. See, man, now you made

11:43

me want to be in church. I want it

11:45

to be 10 o'clock on a Sunday

11:48

morning. I want to hem and

11:50

be three Oregon because I want to talk about

11:53

the power plant. And Jesus

11:55

Said, you will receive power when the

11:57

Holy Spirit comes on you and you

11:59

will be my wish. this is in

12:01

Jerusalem judaism area was at best taking

12:04

the power and then transforming that power

12:06

into a witness. Yeah you see what

12:08

he just did My said. I'm

12:11

gonna give you power from another place

12:13

and then I want your face to

12:15

be the turbine. By

12:17

which you take one, I've given you. And

12:20

say did to the world and best. So

12:22

much more empowering to me. Than.

12:25

It is to sit there and go. To

12:28

me joy I'm trying to get people out of

12:30

this pattern that we have been them sometimes

12:32

of going. Lord to

12:34

me join him. Enjoy Gimme joy! And

12:37

The Lord Debut. Somebody.

12:39

To help that would have brought huge

12:41

void is you would have helped that

12:44

person smells it. Also think that we

12:46

should talk about this. Isn't

12:48

the happiness that we want? Often.

12:51

Hidden. In the thing that we

12:53

resist. While. Say

12:56

more. Badass. Well. I

12:58

have had so many times where it was

13:00

the exact thing I didn't want to do.

13:03

That. Gave me the mood booze that I needed.

13:06

You know, I'm a sinner thinking of all the

13:08

things we try to do to be happy. You

13:10

know, all the things that I bought to try

13:12

to be happy, all the things I've done to

13:14

indulge. There's a time in a place for that,

13:16

but there's also times where. Maybe

13:19

there was somebody that was put on my

13:21

hard to call them in, check on them

13:23

and three hours of prayer. Wouldn't.

13:26

Have done for me what. Reaching out to

13:28

somebody and say how did it go and

13:30

know you had the thing men had to

13:33

go you remembered Yeah, remembered. My natural instinct

13:35

was I need somebody to call and check

13:37

on me. Maybe I'm even sitting around feeling

13:39

sorry for myself that nobody checked him amidst.

13:42

The last thing I want to do is

13:44

reach out and check on somebody else. And

13:46

I noticed that God sides. The. Resource

13:49

of Joy. In the

13:51

act of obedience is kind of like

13:53

while do the things. That

13:56

you don't wanna do. and

13:58

you will receive the thing that you need, like the

14:00

Bible says, given it will be given to

14:02

you. Holly preached a message one time

14:05

that we kind of worked on together called Give

14:07

What You Want. And the

14:09

feeling of it was if you want joy,

14:11

like you say, generate it.

14:13

How? Through loving somebody. And

14:16

so I think this idea of

14:18

happiness as an end game is killing

14:20

us culturally. Something that

14:22

we chase that's out there and

14:25

it's marked by acquisition, or

14:27

it's just in a pleasurable experience. So I've

14:30

heard a lot of preachers get up and say, well, the

14:32

Lord don't care if you're happy. He

14:35

wants you holy. The Lord

14:37

don't want you happy. He wants you holy.

14:40

And then that same guy ends

14:42

up cheating on his wife three

14:45

years later. Why? Because there's

14:47

something in us that if we don't feel fulfilled,

14:49

it comes out sideways. You know, he's up there.

14:52

God doesn't care if you're happy. God doesn't

14:54

care if you're happy, but secretly I'm miserable

14:57

and I'm suppressing my misery. And I'm trying to

14:59

keep these rules that I'm just trying to be

15:01

holy, be holy, be holy. But

15:04

wouldn't being holy and being like Jesus

15:06

and letting God's character flow through you

15:09

make you more happy. So

15:11

I'm really against this false

15:13

dichotomy of, well, it's

15:16

not about happiness. No, that's not my

15:19

ultimate goal, but it's

15:21

the byproduct of living the way God wants me to

15:23

live. And I've always wanted to ask you if you

15:25

agree with that. We've never been able to talk about

15:27

it. Yeah. That happiness often

15:30

comes as a byproduct and it

15:32

evaporates when it's what we're after.

15:35

But it comes when what we're after is doing what God

15:37

has called us to do. It's

15:40

in our language, it's full engagement.

15:43

When you engage something, whether you want to do it or

15:45

not, tends to be positive emotions come

15:47

from it because you chose to engage it. So,

15:50

you know, I don't feel love.

15:53

Okay. Engage in a relationship and all of

15:55

a sudden, like, love starts happening there. Yeah.

15:58

I Don't feel motivated today. Engage

16:00

in doing something. And

16:02

that motion. Generates. Motivation.

16:06

And so I think you have to think about like oh, I.

16:09

Wanna ceiling and I want something good to

16:11

happen but engaged in. it's like I never

16:13

feel like working out. I am sir were

16:15

different on this like this I have to

16:17

force myself to work out. but once I

16:20

start. A Felix gonna. Be.

16:22

Source the feeling know it's go a discipline

16:24

my mind that this is good for me

16:26

even know I don't want to do it

16:28

I know it's good for me. And

16:31

if I engage in things that I know are good for

16:33

me, God. Amplifies

16:35

and abundance happen. Sex aussi like work

16:37

and out the when I do it

16:39

all the sudden. As I'm getting it, Or

16:42

maybe fifteen twenty min cinema com like

16:44

in the is go Goodyear and so

16:46

doing the things. Opens you

16:48

up. so doing good things for yourself

16:50

opens you up to more of those

16:52

things. Most people are actually happy. They're

16:54

just unhappy that the not happy. All.

16:56

The Tough. I'm unhappy.

16:59

That. I'm not have the all the time.

17:01

That's what people mistake is like what I'm

17:04

supposed to arrive some kind of destination some

17:06

that's where I'm perfect and awesome. One day

17:08

I'm perfectly happy and I'm perfectly happy. I'm

17:11

perfectly to them all does have never hungry

17:13

to I'm never mad I'm their irritable i

17:15

don't cousin you know church and I don't

17:17

custom traffic anymore A perfect and that's a

17:20

pretty much all arrive at assess nation of

17:22

a perfect ceiling. And the

17:24

thing is feelings just like everything talk about is

17:26

generated results in changed since he's by the situation

17:29

for the most as are going it's naturally come

17:31

up with Everyone struggles with the most and everyone

17:33

struggles with. I wish this in has to happen

17:35

God. And when we got we would.

17:37

Who said. You know where we

17:39

tell ourselves a story that. The. Student

17:41

has to happen. Sometimes

17:44

we don't know. And

17:46

sometimes happiness is recognizing that

17:49

there's not a perfect destination.

17:51

Perfect state. That

17:53

we have this consistently because of that. We.

17:55

Have to generate as much as we can. we

17:58

have to become the power plant against we We have

18:00

to find and fight through to generate

18:02

the joy and the forgiveness. We

18:06

have to try. Yeah. That's why

18:08

when I read this chapter, I was like, I hope everyone will buy

18:10

this book, because it's

18:12

your job to do that. The

18:14

natural happy state that lives forever doesn't happen.

18:18

Every day, you have to

18:20

take as a job, I have to put myself in a

18:22

good state. I have to summon the

18:25

best of who I am. It doesn't happen by default.

18:27

We wish it did. That's

18:29

why we're unhappy. I'm

18:31

giggling a little bit, man, because it's funny how

18:33

you'll start saying a scripture, but you're not quoting

18:35

it, but you're saying the scripture. This

18:37

one always happens to us. It's like,

18:40

you're saying I have to generate it

18:43

and it's my job to do it.

18:46

And I'm thinking of how most of us wake up

18:48

and we're like, it's just one of those days. Like

18:50

in the first five minutes, we decided, am I

18:53

feeling today's going to be a good day? Did

18:57

I feel like the room was a little hot and I

18:59

woke up sweaty? And so it's just going to be a

19:01

day. Like, it's just going to be a day. It's going

19:03

to be a day. I can tell, you know, we're starting

19:05

to try to predict our day in the first five minutes.

19:09

Whereas the scripture says, this is the day the

19:11

Lord has made. I

19:13

will rejoice and be glad

19:15

in it. Now, the first one is

19:17

a fact. This is a day the Lord has

19:19

made. If you've got another one, that's

19:22

a starting place, right? I

19:24

will rejoice. I like that. That's a decision.

19:27

I will rejoice, which rejoice

19:31

is kind of like bringing joy back again. It's kind

19:33

of like a turbine. It's kind

19:35

of like cycling back through what you've been given. It's

19:38

like, okay, God has

19:40

been good to me. And I know there's like a

19:43

lot of teaching out there on

19:45

gratitude, gratitude journals, gratitude practices. Here's

19:47

my confession. I

19:50

do gratitude practices, gratitude

19:52

journals, but

19:54

I have a hard time feeling it. It's almost

19:57

like I have to force it. When

20:00

me and Holly we're getting away Last

20:02

summer, she saw me during my gratitude

20:04

exercise and she said very lovingly not

20:06

in a judgmental where I think it's

20:08

awesome that you do it in fact,

20:10

that I give an exercise in the

20:12

book called great for A because my

20:14

contention is that a great for heart

20:17

is a stable hart. Said.

20:19

The best way for me to get back grounded

20:21

in God and who he is is to begin

20:23

to express thanks. So what do an exercise in

20:25

the book. But all he

20:27

was watching me to the exercise and she

20:29

said. The other just

20:31

feel grateful to. And

20:34

I was like. Of. Us

20:36

I. Just. Like.

20:39

Yeah, but I realize. It. When

20:41

everything is just right, everything is. Completely.

20:45

A line the way I wanted to be

20:47

An What? she was trying to get me

20:50

to see. Was. Said his

20:52

gratitude is just in my head. I

20:54

should be grateful for these things, but

20:56

it doesn't penetrate my heart rate. Than.

20:59

It's not really going to soak in and change

21:01

how I see the world, is it can be.

21:03

A big ship for lot of people

21:06

because we've been told a society you

21:08

know make sure you do your gratitude

21:10

journals and by I'm a huge turn

21:12

worth it. In my software we bill

21:14

mindset journaling it's a bad deeply believe

21:16

in however. There. We've been.

21:19

Taught this idea. The gratitude is

21:21

something you captured the end of the day.

21:24

They get the a Day your Gratitude

21:26

journal and you'll be happier now besides

21:28

actually, so that's true, You. Can

21:31

improve. Your. Gratitude Your sense

21:33

of happiness a single digits. I consistently

21:35

at least three times a week. Journaling

21:37

about things gratitude most people say do as

21:39

the other day. I

21:42

think a lot more pauses I gotta

21:44

say to at the beginning of the

21:46

day capture grabs his and I was.

21:48

I was kinda rub wrong by that

21:50

because again on the powerplay guy. On.

21:52

Degenerative.on the high agency goggles. I don't

21:54

want his capture things because there's an

21:57

intellectual thing that's happening there in for

21:59

some people like yourself. I'm going to

22:01

guess on this. It

22:03

it doesn't. It's like things online up in when

22:05

you think about it like I'm kind of happy.

22:08

But you can't. Intellectual eyes, happiness and gratitude for

22:10

a lot of people may have to generate. Let

22:12

me give an example in also gives you in

22:15

the whole team here a lot of praise. During.

22:17

The Pandemic. And was not

22:20

feeling happy. And I was not feeling

22:22

grateful. And I was haven't developed difficult

22:24

time. He. I went from doing

22:26

these huge seminars with thousands of people

22:28

eight times a year to being in

22:30

his bathroom. Ah, on this island. we

22:32

were literally bring aunts and I was

22:34

feeling kind of lonely as attach it

22:36

was younger. And I was

22:39

like I'm going to go the songs on

22:41

trying to write I wrote a book I

22:43

i I was do my gratitude Oil is

22:45

something as a hitting. The

22:47

blessing. Comes across somebody tax

22:49

me bless. Assault. So.

22:53

I listened a blessing. Wow, that's

22:55

really emotional. The. Songs with

22:57

most and found one and so that

22:59

day I thought I was in already

23:02

to do I need to generate gratitude

23:04

the differently. So I put

23:06

might their phones on. I. Put

23:08

his blessing on replay. And.

23:12

I thought for the three people of north my life.

23:15

And I went on a walk. Probably. Twenty

23:17

thirty minute walk. On

23:20

that song and loop. And

23:22

I thought of the person. Who

23:24

I was grateful for. While. Listening to

23:27

music, While moving. And

23:30

I was flooded with tears. Wow! So.

23:34

I mean I cried soon as he gets as

23:36

a to africa. And.

23:39

So. There's a difference there for a lot of people

23:41

listening and what go much tougher. This. For.

23:43

Me: Generating happiness and

23:45

gratitude. I had to come to go.

23:47

Multimillion dollar the on it. You know

23:49

I can just sit dermis, you know

23:52

I got a move or guy gets

23:54

music in. I've got to visualize and

23:56

all the sudden it's like. It's.

23:58

like a movie It's like the

24:00

clouds open up and God hit me with

24:02

the light. You know, so what

24:04

I wanna encourage people to do is sometimes if

24:06

you don't feel gratitude and you've done the gratitude

24:08

lists and you intellectualize it and

24:11

you think about it, is there a song you

24:13

could play? Is there

24:15

a gift you have you could engage in? If

24:18

your musical could there be music that

24:20

you're participating in or listening to while

24:23

you capture a person

24:27

in your mind, why you maybe

24:29

think about God? Why you maybe think

24:31

about your mom? Mom, you think

24:33

about your dad. You think about your lover,

24:35

your spouse. Just draw them to mind. Think

24:37

of all the reasons you're happy with them.

24:40

But do it as an activity. I'm

24:42

gonna generate the feeling and the emotion

24:45

of gratitude right now. I'm gonna flood myself

24:47

with that. And now that's

24:49

very different than sitting down for five minutes. Very different.

24:52

And it will shock you. If you can do that

24:54

literally two, three times a week, life

24:56

feels differently because now you're coming from that

24:58

place that's way more emotive than just an

25:00

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25:46

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