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know they will read. Or.
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Know is a city located in
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Hennepin County, Minnesota in the United
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States. It's on
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the north shore of Lake Minnetonka and
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is a suburban community known for it's
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scenic beauty. The
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city's also known as a commuter hub.
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Dude, it's close proximity to the nearby
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Minneapolis. Education holds paramount
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importance in Aura know what? the
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esteemed or no public school district.
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For. Known for it's academic excellence
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and strong community backing. The.
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District comprises Aura Know High School.
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Or. No middle school and to elementary
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schools. Fostering. A culture of
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learning and grow. Beyond.
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Academics or a New offers
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abundant recreational opportunities. From.
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Boating and fishing on Lake
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Minnetonka. To. Hiking and picnicking and
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it's numerous parks and trails. He
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was a client morning for police officers in
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or know on the twentieth of May. Two
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thousand and twenty two. Some.
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Right on patrol when and I'm among
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Call came into the dispatch center at
3:51
around seven a m. it
3:54
was from a woman who reported seeing
3:56
a chevrolet impala weaving through traffic with
3:58
the shuttered rear window and a flat
4:00
tire. She wondered
4:02
if possibly it was a drunk driver
4:04
and feared for the safety of other
4:06
drivers and people. The
4:09
dispatcher wasted no time in relating this
4:11
information to the nearest patrol units.
4:15
Within minutes, Officer Trent Wibush and his
4:17
colleague took off in the direction of
4:19
where the car was reported to be
4:21
driving. It
4:23
wasn't long until they spotted
4:26
a Chevrolet Impala driving along
4:28
Barlett Avenue. The front tire was
4:30
missing and the car was riding on the
4:32
rim as the rhythmic thud
4:34
of metal against the pavement sounded
4:36
out. The
4:39
officers turned on their sirens and
4:41
the car pulled over to the side of the
4:43
road. As
4:46
they drew closer, they could see
4:48
that the back window of the vehicle had
4:50
been smashed and a tire was missing, much
4:52
like the caller had said. The
4:55
two officers anticipated a drunken driver
4:57
to emerge, but when a
4:59
woman emerged from the driver's side and
5:02
she was sober, they seemed
5:04
perplexed. But her
5:06
demeanor was quite strange to the officers.
5:10
She was disheveled and unkempt and
5:12
appeared to be nervous and fidgety. The
5:15
two officers took her behind the vehicle and as
5:18
one of them questioned her, the other
5:20
glanced into the vehicle. They
5:23
could see a bullet hole in the back seat,
5:25
as well as a live shotgun shell
5:27
and a spent casing. As
5:31
they spoke with the woman, they then
5:33
noticed that there was some blood on her
5:35
hands. Eli
5:51
Hart came into the world on the 15th
5:53
of December 2015 to parents Jilla Cecile and
5:56
Tori Hart. We're
6:00
both nineteen years old at the time they
6:02
met. Their relationship
6:04
swiftly evolved. Leading. Them to
6:06
move in together within months and saying
6:09
they welcome their son a lie into
6:11
their lives. However,
6:14
He likes the Us to challenges from the start.
6:16
Being. Born. With times Brock Syndrome.
6:19
A rare genetic disorder causing
6:21
various developmental issues. This
6:24
condition lead to kidney disease and
6:26
hearing difficulties. Necessitating. The
6:28
use of hearing aids, That.
6:31
Despite these obstacles he live or
6:33
mean Brazilian. He
6:36
even managed to enjoy typical childhood
6:38
activities. Such. As running and playing
6:40
despite some physical challenges like overlapping
6:42
toes on his slot see. Yet.
6:46
Amidst these trials a lion pointer to
6:48
another struggle in his life. His
6:51
mother to Melissa. She.
6:53
Battled with longstanding substance abuse
6:56
problems. Which. Persisted even after
6:58
a lies for. Some.
7:01
People who knew her belief that she may have been
7:03
using. Drugs during her pregnancy. Jealous
7:07
his life had been marked by adversity,
7:09
Long. Before he like him in the world.
7:13
Struggles. With mental health including
7:15
depression. Mood Disorder, the
7:17
borderline personality disorder that plays
7:19
her since her adolescence. Or
7:23
bottles extended to substance abuse, leading
7:25
to multiple hospitalizations and periods of
7:27
homelessness including a stint on the
7:29
street for forty five days during
7:31
her final year of high school.
7:34
Despite. Years of medication to listed
7:36
chose to discontinue treatment. The for a
7:39
I was born. Those.
7:41
Who knew Julissa held out hope
7:43
that motherhood would inspire positive. Change.
7:46
Believing. A vice Presidents my prompter
7:48
to confront her addiction and seek
7:51
professional support. I
7:53
have. Or this optimism proved. On find it.
7:55
A. Still us to continue to grapple with her
7:57
demons. Despite the responsibility.
8:00
Of motherhood. Jealous.
8:02
His mental health struggles and Scully
8:04
at it. but instead of turning
8:06
inward, they took a harmful turn
8:08
towards Tory. She. Began
8:11
saab or kidding Accusations is abuse.
8:13
Once. Even involving the police by
8:16
alleging physical harm during an argument.
8:19
To list went as far as claiming that
8:21
Tory threatened her life if she ever last
8:23
him. Only to retract the
8:25
complaint days later. Admitting. That
8:28
it was fabricated to tear untreated
8:30
mental health issues. Despite.
8:34
This Tillis repeated her false accusations
8:36
the following: Year. As
8:38
time alleging the Tory had threatened her with
8:40
a shotgun. I
8:43
ever given her history and a lack of
8:45
evidence. Please. Choose not to
8:47
pursue charges, Fearing.
8:50
Further damage. Story decided to end
8:52
their relationship. And. He laughs Their
8:54
shared home. Door.
8:57
He wanted to get sole custody of his son.
8:59
A lie. That his efforts were
9:01
supported because of the false orders of
9:03
protection for the been filed by job
9:05
listening. She frequently
9:07
saw it restraining order against Tory accusing
9:09
him of making threats to physically harm
9:12
her and a lie. It's.
9:14
Are always on funded. The Julissa had
9:16
find a way to manipulate the system
9:19
in her favor. In
9:21
Minnesota, unlike some other states on
9:24
wed, father's have no custodial right
9:26
unless the courts award them. The
9:30
system truly fever his mother's over and
9:32
over again. Even. When concerns
9:34
are raised, As
9:37
Tillis his own father said. I
9:39
guarantee one hundred percent the Tory is
9:42
incapable of anything Julissa has accused him
9:44
of. It wasn't even in
9:46
the see it when some of this stuff
9:48
supposedly happened. He. Has received showing
9:50
he was in Wisconsin almost three hours
9:53
away. The.
9:55
Beast or Seeds did very little sway the
9:57
poor. So. Jealous of was
10:00
granted who custody. Of A My. After.
10:09
The family dissolved to listen. Tory
10:12
didn't cross paths again until two
10:14
thousand and nineteen, when she unexpectedly
10:16
appeared at his sister's wedding. A
10:20
few months later Julissa choose Tory of planting
10:22
a nail bomb in her car. Prompting.
10:25
Police involvement. Despite.
10:28
No evidence of such an act, a
10:30
judge still ordered Tory to stay away
10:32
from Julissa for two years. Even.
10:34
Though he resided in Wisconsin at the
10:36
time, Then. In October
10:38
of two thousand and twenty. Police.
10:40
Responded to a lesser and he lies
10:43
residents after eve I balked his mother.
10:45
I. Upon
10:47
entering the home Police are solved by
10:49
the squalid conditions. The
10:52
previous musty odor assaulted their
10:54
senses. While. Piles of brothers and
10:57
dirty dishes, cluttered, nearly. Every. Room.
11:00
The. Upper floor bathroom was flooded. And
11:03
eggs had been smashed and spread throughout
11:05
the entire home. The.
11:07
Officers observe troubling signs, Eli.
11:10
Locked Closing. Or. An open
11:13
wound on his elbow and he was also
11:15
find with orders essential. Hearing Aids.
11:18
Child. Protective Services intervened.
11:21
Temporarily. Removing a life Angeles's
11:23
care and placing him into foster
11:25
care. During. Her scheduled
11:27
visits with a my. Social. Workers
11:29
observed to list is alarming behavior.
11:33
She. Displayed consistent anger towards.
11:35
Her son. Often blaming him
11:37
for their separation and the intervention
11:40
of police. Services.
11:42
Accusations against a lie for locking her
11:44
own and spreading eggs in the heist
11:47
were particularly. Disturbing. She.
11:50
Told the four year old. Not. Made
11:52
them com. And get you. Instilling.
11:54
Guilt and fear into him. He.
11:57
lies demeanor during these encounters is
11:59
equally out disturbing. He
12:02
appeared frightened of his mother, seeking
12:04
refuge behind furniture and refusing to
12:06
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12:08
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12:11
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12:13
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a call indicating that Jelissa
14:38
was experiencing psychosis and
14:40
hearing voices urging her to harm herself.
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It had also been discovered that she had
14:46
been showing Eli disturbing videos of cop feces
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and new women. She
14:51
had been experiencing a level of paranoia and
14:54
had set up a noise machine in her
14:56
apartment because she feared that her
14:58
neighbors were spying on her. As
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a result, Eli was once more removed from
15:02
Jelissa's care and placed into foster
15:05
care under the guardianship of
15:07
a woman named Nikita Kromberg. During
15:10
this period, Eli had the opportunity to spend
15:12
quality time with his father. He seized
15:15
the chance to teach him valuable skills such
15:18
as riding a bike and enjoying
15:20
weekend fishing trips together. Despite
15:23
the challenges that he faced, Eli
15:25
remained a cheerful and content child.
15:28
He loved playing with matchbox cars and
15:31
harbored dreams of becoming a firefighter one day.
15:34
Eli eagerly embraced fishing with his father,
15:37
displaying a natural talent for the activity
15:39
from the outset. Despite
15:41
his father's extensive experience and ownership of
15:44
a bait shop, Eli outperformed
15:46
him in fishing that day and
15:48
caught more fish. Tory
15:51
reminisced. and
16:00
it moved on with a woman named
16:02
Josie Josephson, who embraced Eli as part
16:04
of their family. Torrey
16:06
cherished the opportunity to establish stability and
16:09
a genuine connection with his son, eagerly
16:12
anticipating their time together. Under
16:15
Torrey's care, Eli enjoyed new freedoms,
16:18
including sleepovers at his father's
16:20
house, a privilege denied during
16:22
Jelissa's custody. He
16:25
established traditions such as Tuesday
16:27
nights at Caboone's restaurant, where
16:29
Eli always ordered his favourite dish,
16:32
a massive bowl of meatballs. Josie
16:36
said of Torrey, he was
16:38
missing a piece of himself when his son
16:40
wasn't around. During
16:50
the custody battle, Child Protective
16:52
Services raised significant concerns about
16:54
Jelissa's suitability as a mother.
16:57
These worries stemmed from her troubled mental health
17:00
history and her involvement in
17:02
criminal activities. In
17:04
June of 2022, Jelissa faced a
17:07
workplace hearing due to allegations of
17:09
stealing drugs from a health clinic. This
17:12
added to a list of transgressions that
17:15
included multiple traffic violations such as
17:17
speeding, rak was driving, and using
17:20
a cell phone while driving. Jelissa's
17:23
ongoing substance abuse problems further
17:26
exacerbated the situation, and
17:28
she tested positive for methadone
17:30
and OxyContin. Her
17:32
living situation was also unstable, marked
17:35
by eviction from two homes due to
17:37
disruptive behaviour that prompted police intervention
17:39
21 times in a mere 10
17:42
months. She
17:44
was once kicked out after keeping ducks in
17:46
the living room. Jelissa
17:48
attempted to address her addiction at a
17:50
drug testing facility but was
17:53
ultimately expelled due to what
17:55
staff described as bizarre behaviour. Amidst
17:58
these concerns, Child Protective Services services
18:00
highlighted apprehensions that
18:03
Jelissa's mental health struggles might impede
18:05
her ability to provide proper care
18:07
for Eli. They
18:09
also feared her actions could be
18:11
negatively impacting Eli's relationship with his
18:13
father, who they described as a
18:15
stabilizing influence in his life. Despite
18:19
these serious concerns, Judge Tim
18:21
Wermacher ruled in Jelissa's favour,
18:23
granting her custody of Eli on
18:25
a trial basis in December. While
18:28
Jelissa had the backing of one social
18:31
worker, Beth Danner, who advocated for her
18:33
to receive full custody, Danner
18:35
had also highlighted some concerning issues.
18:39
She noted that Jelissa had been absent
18:41
from weekly therapy sessions for several months
18:43
and locked in sight into her own mental
18:45
health and behaviour. Additionally,
18:48
Danner pointed out instances of neglect
18:50
regarding Eli's medical needs, particularly
18:53
regarding his hearing aids. But
18:56
despite these red flags, Danner said in
18:58
her report, there is no current indication
19:00
that her son is physically unsafe in
19:03
her care. So
19:05
on the 10th of May 2022,
19:08
Jelissa was granted full custody of Eli.
19:11
This decision deeply upset Tori if
19:14
he believed that Eli had a more stable
19:16
relationship with his foster mother, which
19:18
had allowed him to be in the picture. Determined
19:21
to secure custody himself, Tori
19:24
expressed his desire for Eli to come
19:26
and live with him in Wisconsin, where
19:29
he owned a bait shop. Following
19:32
Eli's return to living with his mother,
19:34
there was a noticeable shift in his
19:36
behaviour. Previously a
19:39
diligent and cheerful child at school,
19:41
he began displaying signs of
19:43
anxiety and engaging in troubling
19:45
behaviour. Instances such
19:47
as pushing a child off a slide
19:49
and kicking another in the throat, actions
19:52
that were completely uncharacteristic of him,
19:55
raised serious concerns for Tori
19:57
about Eli's well-being at home. Eli
20:01
had often shown up to school without his hearing
20:03
aids, and he often told teachers
20:06
that he hadn't slept. The
20:09
situation continued to deteriorate as
20:12
Eli started to regress further. He developed
20:15
habits such as chewing on his t-shirt,
20:18
struggled with sleep, and exhibited
20:20
speech patterns akin to a baby,
20:23
accompanied by stuttering. Fearing
20:26
that Eli might be subjected to abuse,
20:28
Torrey took action and reached out to
20:31
Dakota County social workers to
20:33
express his apprehensions. Torrey
20:36
emphasized that Eli hadn't exhibited any of
20:38
these issues before returning to live with
20:41
his mother. He
20:43
pointed out Jelis's troubled mental health history,
20:46
noting instances of paranoia
20:48
and auditory hallucinations. He
20:51
also said, I feel so
20:54
bad for Eli. I feel he will
20:56
be injured or worse being back with his mum. Concerned
21:00
about his son's safety and well-being, Torrey
21:03
firmly believed that Eli would be better
21:05
off under his care in Wisconsin.
21:08
In pursuit of this belief, Torrey initiated
21:10
a separate legal case to secure custody
21:13
of his son. A hearing
21:16
on that petition was scheduled for the 21st of June.
21:20
Even Jelis's father seemed to support this
21:22
decision. He said of Torrey, he
21:25
was the parent that Eli deserved. He's
21:27
the guy you want raising your grandchild. Jelis's
21:30
grandmother Linda also agreed. She
21:33
had once had a close relationship with her
21:36
granddaughter Jelissa, but after she
21:38
filed the phony restraining orders against Torrey,
21:41
she cut off all ties with her. She
21:43
recalled, That man doesn't have
21:46
a mean bone in his body. I
21:48
said, you drop that restraining order now, or
21:50
you can consider our relationship
21:52
done. That was the last
21:54
time I talked to her. According
21:57
to records, Eli appeared to be much happier
21:59
when he was with her. his father during
22:01
their visits. One
22:03
of them noted, Tori brings
22:05
age-appropriate toys and activities and
22:08
is very engaging with Eli. During
22:10
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22:13
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22:15
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the only one to observe the distressing changes
24:02
in Eli's behaviour after Jelissa
24:04
got full custody. Eli's
24:07
foster mother, Nikita, also took action
24:09
by reaching out to child protective
24:12
services. She voiced
24:14
her concerns about Jelissa's potential danger to
24:16
Eli, even suggesting that
24:18
she might resort to extreme measures to prevent
24:20
Tori from gaining custody, she
24:23
commented, I express
24:25
those fears numerous times, and
24:28
it was clearly brushed aside. Just
24:37
ten days after Jelissa regained full custody of
24:39
her son, police in the
24:41
city pulled over a young woman who was
24:43
driving with her back window smashed and her
24:46
tyre missing. She
24:49
explained to the officers that she was
24:51
onward to meet her AA sponsor, the
24:53
Tonker Alenow Society in Mound, when
24:56
she was ambushed by individuals emerging from
24:58
nearby woods who began pelting her car
25:00
with rocks. She
25:03
further claimed that they had fired upon her vehicle
25:06
with what she initially thought was a BB gun,
25:09
but later said that it was a paintball gun. While
25:12
one officer conversed with the woman, another
25:15
officer, Officer Wibush, worked
25:17
at a visual inspection of the
25:19
vehicle's exterior. He
25:22
was immediately struck by a pungent odour
25:24
of decay emanating from the car. Upon
25:28
closer examination, he observed traces of blood
25:30
in the back seat, on the ceiling,
25:33
and along the passenger side door. There
25:36
was also what appeared to be a bullet hole, as
25:38
well as a live shotgun shell and a
25:40
spent casing. There is no
25:42
tyre there, alright. One
26:06
question about the blood. The woman said
26:08
she had recently purchased some deer meat
26:10
from a farmer. But
26:13
blood was also present on her hands, which
26:15
she explained away as being from changing
26:17
her tampon. The
26:20
officer spent the next 30 minutes
26:22
trying to figure out if the
26:24
woman had been involved in an
26:26
incident outside of their jurisdiction. While
26:29
they were doing this, the woman appeared
26:31
to become impatient. She
26:34
complained that she was cold, so
26:36
the officers told her she could
26:38
leave while they looked into the
26:40
matter. However, they needed to give
26:42
her a lift back home because
26:44
her vehicle wasn't roadworthy. Before they
26:47
left, they asked the woman
26:49
for some identification. She
26:52
told them that her name was Jelissa Saylor. The
27:03
two officers accompanied Jelissa back to her apartment
27:06
in Spring Park before returning
27:08
to her damaged vehicle. They
27:11
intended to have it towed for further
27:13
investigation. While waiting for
27:16
the tow truck, the officers decided
27:18
to conduct a preliminary inspection. In
27:21
the backseat, they noticed what appeared to
27:23
be bloody tissue. Upon
27:25
opening the trunk, they were confronted
27:27
with a shotgun hidden behind a
27:29
grey blanket. The
27:32
blanket itself bore traces of
27:34
a blood-like substance along
27:36
with what appeared to be brain matter. Beneath
27:40
the blanket lay a horrifying discovery.
27:48
It was the lifeless and disfigured body
27:51
of a young boy, his features
27:53
unrecognizable. It
27:56
was six-year-old Eli, and he
27:58
had been shot nine times with a shotgun. completely
28:00
destroying his face and upper body.
28:04
The officers wasted no time and swiftly
28:06
returned to Jelissa's apartment. However,
28:09
their repeated knocks on the door yielded
28:11
no response. Without
28:14
hesitation, they resorted to breaking down the
28:16
door, revealing an
28:18
eerily empty apartment with
28:20
only the sound of a running washing machine
28:23
echoing through the space. Upon
28:26
closer inspection, they discovered that inside
28:28
the washing machine were the very
28:30
clothes Jelissa had been wearing during
28:32
the traffic stop. Their
28:35
investigation led them to Jelissa just a few
28:37
blocks away from her home, where
28:40
she was arrested. As
28:42
she was placed into handcuffs, the
28:44
officers observed blood and human tissue
28:46
entangled within her hair. During
28:54
Jelissa's arrest, she was charged with
28:56
the second-degree murder of Eli, prompting
28:58
detectives to launch a thorough investigation
29:00
into their final movements. Utilizing
29:04
the damage caused by Jelissa's car, detectives
29:06
managed to reconstruct some of her
29:08
activity from that morning. Their
29:11
investigation led them to a nearby petrol
29:13
station, where Jelissa had been before
29:15
her encounter with the officers. During
29:20
the area, detectives made some chilling discoveries
29:22
in the dumpsters. Among
29:25
them was a backpack, stained with blood
29:27
and brain matter. In
29:30
another dumpster, they found a child booster seat, ominously
29:33
marked by a shotgun blast, in
29:35
the exact position where a child's head would
29:37
have rested. It
29:40
became apparent that Eli had been secured in
29:42
his booster seat, when he
29:44
suffered the horrific fate of being shot
29:46
nine times with a shotgun. Inside
29:50
the booster seat led Eli's blood-soaked
29:52
backpack, containing his untouched
29:54
homework. As
29:57
detectives delved deeper into the investigation,
30:00
then covered more evidence linking Jelissa
30:02
to Evi's murder. Alma
30:05
Vasquez, the clerk at the Shell gas
30:07
station, provided crucial
30:09
insight, recounting Jelissa's activities
30:11
that morning. She
30:14
said that Jelissa had spent approximately an hour
30:16
at the gas station, cleaning out
30:18
her car's back seat and disposing of
30:21
the items in the dumpsters. Alma
30:24
also observed Jelissa washing her hands in a
30:26
puddle, a detail that
30:28
would prove significant in the forensic
30:31
analysis. Upon
30:33
further examination at the gas station,
30:35
forensic experts discovered traces of Eli's
30:38
DNA in the water and dumpsters.
30:41
Additionally, testimony from a friend shed
30:43
light on Jelissa's disturbing behaviour leading
30:46
up to Eli's death. She
30:49
had shown a keen interest in
30:51
firearms, purchasing a shotgun and ammunition
30:53
with a disturbing request for the
30:55
most destructive rounds. Jelissa
30:58
had also researched morbid topics
31:01
such as child life insurance and blood
31:03
loss thresholds for a six-year-old. The
31:06
detectives continued in their investigation and
31:09
they obtained surveillance footage from outside
31:11
Jelissa's apartment the night before Eli
31:13
was found. She
31:15
could be seen loading a long object
31:18
wrapped in a blanket into her car.
31:21
It was the shotgun. As
31:23
she did that, Eli skipped along
31:25
and climbed into the back seat of the
31:27
car. As
31:35
details of Eli's upbringing were made public,
31:38
questions were raised about whether or not he
31:40
had been filled by the services set up
31:42
to protect children just like him. His
31:46
former foster mother, Nikita, blasted
31:48
the child protective services and
31:50
said that they had failed Eli big time. Tori's
31:54
fiancee, Juicy, echoed
31:56
the same sentiment, stating, No
31:59
matter how many times we cried, they ignored
32:01
us, no matter how many
32:03
warning signs we gave. On
32:05
the 22nd of May, approximately
32:07
200 people gathered at the Wistonka
32:09
Library to honour the memory of
32:12
Eli. The library
32:14
held special significance as
32:16
it was a place that Eli had cherished, often
32:19
visiting with his father to indulge in
32:21
their shared love of reading. As
32:24
a tribute to Eli's aspirations of becoming
32:26
a firefighter, the Mound Fire
32:28
Department presented a helmet in his
32:30
honour, along with bestowing upon him the title
32:33
of Honorary Member. Eli's
32:36
dreams would forever remain unfulfilled,
32:39
as he would forever remain six years old.
32:43
Tori, who was holding tightly to a
32:45
bag containing his son's ashes, was present at
32:47
the service, accompanied by
32:50
Eli's foster father, Brian Nair.
32:54
Brian reflected on the poignant gathering,
32:56
stating, It's sad to
32:58
see that it has to come from a little boy
33:00
passing in such a violent death, but it's
33:02
great to see the support from the community. It's
33:05
great to see people have come out to support
33:07
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33:09
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After the memorial, the Mound City Council
34:16
voted to name a local bridge in
34:19
Eli's honour. The
34:21
bridge was across a channel from Lake
34:23
Minnetonka and was currently unnamed. The
34:26
petition to rename the bridge after Eli drew
34:28
more than 2,300 signatures. People
34:33
had suggested that renaming the bridge in
34:35
Eli's memory would remind people to
34:37
keep pushing for a better system to
34:39
protect children. But
34:42
the community wanted to do more to remember
34:44
Eli, and a group of
34:46
people began fundraising to build a playground in
34:48
his name. Eli
34:51
loved playgrounds, especially the
34:53
monkey bars, and it seemed like
34:55
a fitting tribute. In
34:57
August of that year, Tory filed a
34:59
lawsuit against Dakota Conte and three
35:02
of its employees for allegedly ignoring
35:04
warning signs that Jelissa was mentally
35:06
ill and unfit to care for
35:08
Eli. He noted how
35:10
two social workers and a court appointed to
35:12
Guardian had repeatedly raised
35:14
concerns about Jelissa, but
35:17
still recommended she be granted full
35:19
custody. His
35:21
attorney, Joshua Tutsher, announced, had
35:23
due care and reasonable decision-making
35:25
being employed here, Eli
35:28
would not have been returned to his mother,
35:30
and she would not have had an opportunity to kill
35:32
him. In the lawsuit,
35:34
Tory accused Jelissa of failing to abide by
35:36
the rules set down by the court and
35:38
her monitors, such as failing
35:40
to show up for mandated drug tests
35:43
and engaging in inappropriate conduct with her
35:45
son. He accused
35:47
her of leaving rotting food in her apartment,
35:50
testing positive for methadone and OxyContin,
35:52
and exposing Eli to images and
35:54
videos of naked women. He
35:58
also said that Jelissa had told her therapist, that
36:00
she had once left Eli on the
36:02
side of a cliff in Colorado when
36:05
she fetched a drinking cup. She
36:08
had described tying a rope onto herself and
36:10
climbing down the side of the cliff to
36:12
retrieve the drinking cup. She
36:15
had left Eli unattended at the cliffside
36:18
and couldn't say why she didn't just go out and purchase
36:20
a new drinking cup instead of
36:22
putting herself and Eli in danger.
36:26
While this was going through the courts, Jalissa
36:29
had a competency evaluation at the request
36:31
of her defense attorney. It
36:33
found that she was competent and could assist
36:35
in her own defense. Then
36:38
in January of 2023, Jalissa's murder
36:41
charge was upgraded to first-degree murder.
36:44
Her trial was scheduled for the following months, but
36:47
before then she made a request to the judge.
36:50
She asked for a warning during the
36:53
trial before graphic photographs and evidence were
36:55
presented, and asked whether she
36:57
could leave the courtroom to avoid seeing exactly
36:59
what she had done to her own son.
37:03
Prosecutor Don Allard described the photographs as
37:05
the worst thing he had ever seen
37:07
in his entire life and
37:09
objected to Jalissa being given a warning or
37:11
being allowed to leave the courtroom. The
37:14
judge ultimately rejected her request and
37:17
by the 3rd of February, a jury was
37:19
seated and the trial was ready to begin.
37:25
The courtroom filled up quickly as
37:27
Jalissa sat alongside her defense team
37:29
in preparation for the opening statements.
37:33
Her defense attorney Rebecca Nussad asked
37:36
the jury to come to the table with an open mind,
37:38
assume nothing, and withhold
37:40
judgement until deliberations. She
37:44
stated, A beautiful six-year-old
37:46
boy is dead. His grieving
37:48
mother is sitting here accused of murdering her
37:50
son with a shotgun. There's
37:52
no light at the end of this trial, no
37:54
way to bring him back. Prosecutor
37:57
Britta Ropp didn't offer a motivation
37:59
during her opening statements, but
38:02
said that they would show that the murder
38:04
was premeditated. She
38:06
revealed how Jelissa had taken out life
38:08
insurance policies, obtained a firearm
38:11
permit, purchased a shotgun and even
38:13
searched on the internet how much
38:15
life insurance pay for a dead
38:17
child, as well as how
38:19
much blood can a six-year-old lose. The
38:22
first witness to testify during the trial
38:24
was Tory, who poignantly told the court that
38:26
there was still so much he wanted to do with
38:29
his son before his life was
38:31
brutally cut short. He
38:33
was emotional, as he said. He was
38:36
everything to me. He completed my
38:38
life. I just loved spending time
38:40
with him. All the stuff I got
38:42
to show him, and all the stuff I wanted to show
38:45
him. The
38:47
two officers who responded to the
38:49
911 call the morning Eli's body
38:51
was found, testified about Jelissa's demeanor.
38:54
She refused to make eye contact and appeared
38:56
to be nervous. Officer
38:59
Trent Wibush stated, It raised
39:02
my level of alertness to be beyond
39:04
a routine traffic stop. Something
39:06
more is going on than not having a tire.
39:10
The evidence against Jelissa was
39:12
overwhelming. Detectives presented
39:15
the surveillance footage, as
39:17
well as the forensic evidence found at the
39:19
dumpster and puddle. When
39:22
Jelissa was arrested, the blood and brain matter
39:24
in her hair came back as a match
39:26
to Eli's DNA. The
39:30
prosecutor said that the night that Eli was killed
39:32
had followed what seemed to be a happy day
39:34
for him. Eli
39:36
and Jelissa had gone shopping, ate
39:38
pizza, and then watched movies. This
39:42
testimony had come from Jelissa's boyfriend at the
39:44
time, Robert Pickeranian, but when
39:46
it came bad time, Eli
39:48
didn't want to go to sleep. This
39:51
caused an argument, so Jelissa shuffled
39:53
him into the car. Prosecutor
39:57
Allard said that Eli probably thought he was going
39:59
on a late night's visit. adventure with his mother.
40:03
They drove her on the western suburbs of
40:05
Minneapolis until Jelissa found a
40:07
secluded spot where she shot him nine
40:09
times as he sat in the backseat.
40:13
The prosecutor noted that the final three
40:16
shots were fired after Jelissa
40:18
had reloaded the weapon. Cell
40:23
phone data from Jelissa's phone placed
40:25
the murder at Lake Minnetonka Regional
40:27
Park. Her cell
40:29
phone data also put her at all of the scenes
40:31
where evidence was found. While
40:33
the prosecution wasn't required to prove a motive
40:36
for the murder, they mentioned that
40:38
Eli was the subject of a
40:40
custody dispute between Jelissa and Tori.
40:43
The defense, on the other hand, suggested
40:45
that somebody else may have pulled the
40:48
trigger. Defense attorney
40:50
Brian Leary admitted that the prosecution
40:52
had presented enough evidence to show that
40:54
Jelissa was guilty of
40:56
participating in murder. However,
40:59
he said they didn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt
41:01
that the gun was in her hands. He
41:05
stated, she destroyed
41:07
evidence, lied to police, ran
41:09
away, but they have improved beyond a
41:11
reasonable doubt that the gun was in her hands
41:14
when it was fired nine times into
41:16
her son. The
41:18
defense attorney declined to suggest who may have
41:20
pulled the trigger, and he
41:22
opted out of calling any
41:25
witnesses. However, Jelissa and Eli were
41:27
the only two seemed getting into the
41:29
car the night of the murder. Then
41:32
Jelissa arrived back home alone after
41:34
the two officers escorted her there
41:36
after stopping her damaged vehicle. The
41:40
jury deliberated for just two hours
41:42
before finding Jelissa Thaler, guilty
41:44
of the murder of Eli Hart. The
41:47
judge scheduled the sentencing phase for the 16th of February,
41:51
but the conviction carried an automatic
41:53
life sentence. The
41:56
Details of Eli's murder were so horrific, the
41:58
jurors were offered to. Free crisis
42:01
counseling. On
42:07
the sixteen to favour a Julissa return to
42:09
court to be sentenced for a vice murder.
42:12
Victim. Impact statements were presented.
42:15
And. He my father and stepmother with the
42:17
first to stand before the microphone. It
42:20
was an amazing through boy toy.
42:22
Zoc a full of energy him
42:25
after he was kind make friends
42:27
easily loved reading books. You
42:30
I had a love. For. Animals that was
42:32
very special. He
42:34
likes floored sit outside fish
42:36
with that. To. The
42:38
Sasabe alongside her defense team. Wiping.
42:40
Away tears with the tissue. A sushi
42:42
spoke about the bond. Between Eli and
42:45
Tory. Sullivan connection
42:47
is yard with his. Son. The
42:51
three had with the only son. Was
42:54
some mean I was privileged to see. You
42:59
can. See. The Law of and bomb. They
43:01
shared every second they were together. They
43:04
had is esther spark between them
43:06
that everyone could see. Now
43:10
we only have memories. Are
43:13
bigger? not enough? Time
43:17
was taken from us. A
43:19
lifetime. Or memories. Be
43:22
made gone. The
43:24
moment. Goes
43:27
I treasure that has been a
43:29
parent myself. Tory will never have
43:31
those experiences. A
43:34
lifetime without you like robbed
43:36
of us. School
43:39
milestones that we will never to
43:41
see like Sweden to the garden
43:43
and elementary school. All the artwork
43:45
should have brought home and put
43:47
on the front facing. the
43:51
first day of middle school
43:53
and high school prom graduation
43:55
watch him play sports teach
43:57
him to drive stolen from
43:59
us Watching
44:01
Eli grow and become a young man and
44:04
what he could have been and done in
44:06
this world. We
44:08
will never have those memories. No
44:11
more hugs, no more snuggles. They
44:13
were ripped from us. Josie
44:15
spoke on behalf of herself and Tori, but
44:18
he stood by her side the entire time. She
44:22
was then given the chance to make a statement.
44:51
The person that takes a child from
44:54
the world, what I can imagine,
44:56
nobody can imagine, is when the
44:58
person that takes a child from the world
45:00
is going to hurt that child. That
45:03
is what the jury completely
45:05
did. They respect the jury's judgment.
45:08
They respect Minnesota's decision
45:11
about what the appropriate consequences are. Nothing
45:14
I do would bring justice to
45:16
this situation. Nothing I do
45:19
would bring any of the same cause
45:21
of doing that. But what is
45:23
according to a lot of the stuff in
45:25
here, it is a different
45:28
concept. It is like a
45:30
prison layout, the possibility
45:34
of a call, so you just go to
45:36
the first degree learner and you just do that. The sentence,
45:39
I will not implore you to get there.
45:41
I can't hear you over your stomach. Five
45:45
lines that you are being sentenced to life
45:47
in prison without the possibility of growing a
45:50
scholar. In
46:00
1973, Mound City Council approved the new
46:02
playground to be dedicated in Eli's memory.
46:06
Private fundraising had covered the cost of the
46:08
playground equipment, and the council
46:10
voted to spend $120,000 from
46:13
the city's municipal liquor fund and
46:16
the Special Project Reserve Fund to prepare
46:18
the ground for the new playground. It
46:21
was to replace the smaller playground in
46:23
Surfside Park on the shore of
46:26
Lake Minnetonka. It's
46:28
scheduled to be built and open by the summer of
46:30
2024. The
46:34
lawsuit that Torrey filed is still pending.
46:37
The tragic story of Eli Hart underscores
46:40
the flaws within a system vulnerable
46:42
to manipulation by a parent
46:44
driven to win custody by any
46:46
means necessary. It
46:49
exposes the daunting challenges that fathers
46:51
face in securing custody rights, particularly
46:54
in cases where the parents were never
46:56
married. Tragically,
46:59
Eli paid the ultimate price as a
47:01
result of these systemic shortcomings.
47:26
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47:29
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