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1:14

All right, everybody, different kind of victory horns tonight because the

1:16

incomparable and incredible E.

1:18

Casey Lydon is not with us.

1:20

He's in LA. He's at

1:23

BKFC KnuckleMania 4, which we're

1:25

just about to go to. And

1:27

we're going to be doing a little bit of a tour of

1:30

the venue. So we're going to be going to the BKFC KnuckleMania

1:32

4 and we're going to be doing a little bit of a

1:34

tour of the venue. So we're going to be doing a little

1:36

bit of a tour of the venue. So we're going to be

1:38

doing a little bit of a tour of the venue. Which

1:42

we're getting ready to watch in a little bit. Before that

1:44

happens, the main card is just about to start. We're

1:47

going to talk about what just happened

1:49

at the world's most famous apex in

1:51

Las Vegas, Nevada. Yes, UFC Vegas 91

1:53

just wrapped up and wrapped

1:56

up in a big way. Alex Perez gets

1:58

his first win in almost four years. Four

2:00

years he knocks out Mikai's think allow

2:03

in the second round before that

2:05

Boggs and Uskopf just continues to

2:07

surge Up the

2:09

UFC's light heavyweight division finishing Ryan's fan

2:12

And we're here to talk about all that and much more

2:14

and boy oh boy. Do I have a crew with me

2:16

first? Let us say hello To

2:19

the man just dancing away. Oh, you didn't want to

2:22

show off your sweet sweet dance moves Where'd

2:25

the music go Mike where did it went away

2:27

go yeah, well, I'm not gonna

2:29

dance to no music I'm not a crazy

2:31

person. I'm just a regular dude who's here

2:33

to tell you Two and

2:36

a half parts was too generous Mike it

2:38

was far too generous You were trying to get this

2:40

up to three farts and look at

2:42

us now Mike Look at us

2:44

now. I thought

2:46

we might have been I was

2:48

gonna say sniffing three and a half farts, but

2:50

maybe sniffing was the like that word there, but

2:54

We also have and this is

2:56

just an honor to privilege anytime. He can join us on

2:58

these post shows or pre shows or whenever Mr.

3:01

New York Rick joins us on this Saturday

3:03

after UFC Vegas 91. How we doing New

3:05

York Rick? Incredible couldn't be better

3:07

blessed to be with you guys. How are

3:09

you? Wonderful

3:12

the card is over so I guess

3:14

Jed will begin with what you How

3:18

are you guys wonderful it's finally

3:20

over it's finally over

3:23

We're here to talk about it. So Jed You

3:27

said two and a half farts a

3:29

little too generous. I try to bump you up to like three

3:31

three and a half. I Think

3:34

the ending like saved it and we talked about it all

3:36

the time how the main event needs to end in like

3:38

a good Way to kind of at least

3:41

put cherry on top of it Like even a

3:43

tremendous card with 12 great finishes

3:45

and things to talk about Can

3:47

be let down by a main event that just does

3:49

not deliver Luckily Alex Perez went

3:52

out there and just early KOed Mateus

3:54

Nicola this is a nasty ass knockout and bogged in

3:56

goose cop Did bogged in goose cop things he was

3:58

kind of the MVP of the car in a lot

4:00

of people's eyes. So you're

4:02

saying this did not live up to the two

4:04

and a half FART score you

4:07

rendered yesterday on the preview

4:09

show. Well I think it

4:11

lived up to exactly two and a half. I think

4:13

I nailed it. I think this

4:15

was two and a half things.

4:18

Now granted I didn't know that half

4:20

of a FART was going to be us

4:23

you know breaking new ground. A

4:26

record I guess record isn't being

4:28

set but the first female cage

4:30

announcer in UFC history happened tonight.

4:32

I didn't realize that that half was going

4:34

to be that half of FART was going

4:37

to come from Joe Martinez's vocal

4:39

chords given out on him. But yeah look the

4:42

main event ended fun so that's cool. That first

4:44

round was tough but we get a fun finish.

4:46

The coming event was real light

4:48

heavyweighty. It was real weird and then it was

4:50

real Ryan Spani and we know how

4:52

that goes and the rest of this card like

4:55

you know Karina Silva got a good win like a

4:58

meaningful win but I don't

5:01

I sat here and watched every second of

5:03

that fight and I can't remember it because

5:06

that's all of this was. You know Uros

5:08

Medich had a fun post-fight interview and a

5:10

good knockout but this was all

5:12

replacement level stuff and you

5:15

know it is where it is. It wasn't a

5:17

bad time. That's a lie. Probably wasn't a good

5:19

time but it is 10 p.m on the eastern

5:22

on the eastern seaboard and so I got

5:24

a lot of respect for that because now

5:26

the you know I just had

5:28

my veggies and now dessert

5:30

can follow. BKFC is live right now

5:32

and that's pretty fun.

5:37

New York York will you remember

5:39

this card after like Tuesday? No

5:41

but I can't say I remember most

5:43

apex cards like after Sunday

5:45

but the moment it's over. I think Jed

5:47

has mentioned the saving grace here is like

5:49

it's relatively early on the east coast

5:52

right. It's 10 p.m right now. Get

5:54

to enjoy BKFC. Wasn't the

5:56

worst wasn't the best. Not

5:58

gonna remember much of it but And we

6:00

move on, as is the UFC's way

6:02

these days. Yes.

6:05

Real quick, there's a tremendous comment that I

6:07

just have to bring up here. Okay.

6:11

Where is it? Where is it? The robbery

6:13

that I was, was Nicolau stealing

6:15

Dustin Poirier's walkouts. Correct. You

6:18

kind of, you kind of felt like I almost wanted to go to the

6:20

bedding window and just put a underdog

6:23

bet on Alex Perez, like right there. I did. You

6:26

just can't do that. You did? That

6:28

was very... I mean, Perez came out

6:30

to freaking Juicy, which is a banger.

6:33

And then like one, Nicolau also just like

6:35

looks boring and he comes up to... he's

6:37

a thief. Like I'm not

6:39

going to bet on a boring thief. At least if you're

6:41

going to be a thief, be like cheeky about it. He

6:43

just stole the man's walkout. Like you

6:45

wouldn't see no other women

6:47

come out to, you know, bad reputation

6:50

or where. Like you just, some people have

6:52

their own thing and you can't...

6:54

that's gimmick infringement. And the man didn't even

6:56

have the decency to jump a ghillie. So

6:58

no, I absolutely bet on Alex Perez. The

7:01

only bet I made, it was terrific. Bet

7:03

like an idiot got paid off. Yes.

7:06

Flyweight unders, live on. Heavyweight

7:10

overs, as you said in our Slack channel. I mean,

7:12

that heavyweight fight, it was no doubt it was going

7:14

over. You could have bet the whole freaking house and

7:16

community on it. And that certainly

7:18

was a heavyweight fight if there ever was one.

7:20

But let's talk about what happened in

7:22

the main event. Jed, you

7:24

were very wisely put

7:27

an underdog bet on Alex Perez. Hasn't

7:29

won in a long time. If you go

7:31

to his tapology page, I'd like to do

7:33

a 30 for 30 someday just on Alex

7:35

Perez's last four years on tapology. So

7:38

many gray marks. I mean, you literally have to

7:40

scroll up a bunch before you get to like

7:42

2024 in his current fights.

7:45

But he goes out there. He's very aggressive tonight.

7:48

And I said on the preview show, if a finish

7:50

was going to come early, it was going to come

7:52

from Alex Perez. And boy did it. Lands thunder shots.

7:54

He was very, very close throughout round one, very, very

7:56

close in the early stages around two. And

7:58

then he finally landed that piston and Mateusz. I just kind of

8:00

dropped right to the fence and that wasn't that was just

8:03

a nasty ko First win

8:05

in almost four years Jed your reaction

8:07

to Alex Perez doing the damn thing

8:09

tonight. I Mean it was

8:11

great for him because like this is a dude who?

8:14

Outside like first win in four years four years

8:16

is so long to go winless in this sport

8:18

like that S with your

8:21

mentality, you know and the and it's

8:23

not just without wins because like you

8:25

sort of mentioned it has been a

8:28

Disastrous four years for him, right?

8:30

Like when he has got to

8:32

the cage He's lost but he has not gotten to

8:34

the cage way more often than

8:36

he has at this point A lot of that

8:38

is you know his own fault He missed weight

8:40

injuries a lot of things that were to some

8:43

extent in his control but some of that also

8:45

wasn't in his control and just kind of everything

8:48

has been working against him and

8:51

You know even this one this wasn't optimal.

8:53

He steps in on short notice himself He

8:55

steps up and is like hey, you know

8:57

that that's risky that that is a risk

9:00

to take on when you're already Three losses

9:02

in the hole, you know, we

9:04

talked in the in the pre-fight Q&A in the

9:06

preview show Maybe he gets

9:08

walking papers if he loses He's still you

9:10

know a top 15 ranked guy before in

9:12

a row and having a history of issues

9:14

with showing up on fight night That

9:17

can get you cut so he may have been fighting

9:19

for his job and he goes out there and has

9:22

you know His literal best performance

9:24

in years and kind of

9:26

reinvigorates himself. I haven't seen

9:28

bonuses I would be absolutely stunned

9:30

if he is not one of the bonuses

9:32

Feels like it's just a guarantee that him

9:34

and her rose medic get bonuses tonight and

9:37

maybe they do like a quad bonus thing Or

9:39

whatever, but you know that it's a

9:41

great night the office for him gets him back, you

9:43

know There was some talk of

9:45

him pre-fighting stuff that gets him back in

9:47

the title conversation It's not entirely untrue just

9:50

because of the lay of the land at

9:52

flyweight, but realistically no He's still a couple

9:54

of wins away, but this does keep him

9:57

relevant and maybe lets him Pick

9:59

a better or fight for his next venture

10:01

as opposed to just kind of being forced

10:03

to fall on whatever grenade the UFC lobs

10:05

at him. So great performance, great win, you

10:08

know, happy form. Yeah,

10:10

spoiler alert for on to the next

10:13

one tomorrow. He's fighting

10:15

the he's gonna fight the Tetsuya Tyra

10:17

Josh bad winner. Like that's that's where he

10:19

is going next even after a win over

10:21

Mateus Nicola, like he was I think he

10:24

was fighting for his job all in all.

10:26

And this is what happens

10:28

now like you beat Mateus Nicola, that's great. You've

10:31

lost three in a row, you haven't won almost

10:33

four years like to and I know some of

10:35

the commentators were saying like, oh, maybe he got

10:37

himself a title show with this one. I think

10:39

they're absolutely insane with Muhammad Ocaya and the conversation

10:41

we were having heading in but New York Rick

10:44

Alex Perez does it, I mean, he probably saved

10:46

his job tonight. And that was sensational.

10:48

And one thing he said that I completely

10:50

agree with and, you know, it's different when

10:52

he says it compared to like when Volkonofsky says it, not

10:54

a lot of people believed he was going to win this

10:56

fight and he went in there and did it. Yeah,

11:01

against the game incredible opponent. He

11:04

needed this desperately. I think we've all kind

11:06

of recognized and touched on this. It

11:08

was required. This was a must win for lack

11:10

of a more artful

11:13

term. And he did it

11:15

in impressive fashion. I obviously disagree with the

11:17

idea that he's jumping into any kind of

11:19

title conversation, just because of how rough and

11:22

rocky the last couple of years have been.

11:25

But I don't think he's far away. I think he's

11:27

one of those guys, especially with how competitive he gets,

11:29

he looked against Mokayev that he can

11:32

be in conversations shortly. You

11:35

know, you string together another one or two

11:37

against a high level competition, which, you know,

11:39

in this division, Nikolau is, and

11:41

you're back in that conversation. So he's not, he's

11:43

not super far away, but certainly not in

11:46

any position to be fighting

11:48

for a title next or even one

11:51

away. He's going to have to string together a few, but

11:53

he does seem like somebody who's capable of that, right?

11:55

Like when he fights at his best, when he, when

11:58

he is on Alex Parela. is

12:00

a bad dude. Like I was first dangerous

12:02

like we've seen him do some some nasty

12:05

things in there Especially like TKO's the electix

12:07

and things like that Like he can when

12:09

he's rolling He's a tough out

12:11

for a lot of people and again I point back

12:13

at the Makaya fight like he was a tough out

12:15

from a kind of that was not like what I

12:17

think people Expected to happen. So yeah

12:19

good for Perez like happy for him to

12:21

be honest like with how this has recently

12:23

gone He needed this desperately,

12:26

but I think he can be a player in this division. It's

12:29

just not gonna be next Like that would be ridiculous.

12:31

That'd be silly But but I think

12:33

with two more three more like he can be back in

12:35

a conversation if he's able to string it together Sure.

12:39

Yeah, he's got to be you know a

12:41

Tyra type of he beats van or vice versa

12:43

and then after that get another one against I

12:47

Mean I was gonna say my high but he

12:49

just beat Makaya but somebody like that like somebody

12:51

in that range of Roy Val or something like

12:53

that and Goes ahead and wins

12:55

that three in a row. He is back in the

12:57

conversation to A fight

12:59

alley pants or maybe Vinnie SIG's who's gonna fight

13:01

for the title next week. So so

13:05

this is This is probably

13:07

I'm just looking at the US these rankings and trying

13:09

to parse out how they're gonna go Because

13:12

right now Nicolas five and usually when

13:14

a fighter loses, they just get jumped

13:16

by the fighter who beat them But

13:18

Perez is beneath Muhammad Makaya the Minow

13:21

cop Nicole obviously has the win

13:23

over cop I

13:25

Might just move into the top Is

13:29

I think what's gonna end up happening think this gonna

13:32

be one of the situation for Nicolas gets bumps and

13:34

Minow cop, you know just stays winning

13:37

buddy. Just keep not fighting and just

13:39

slowly gonna advance yourself into Well,

13:43

maybe that's what Alex Perez does next

13:46

yes fight Minow cop, but I

13:48

don't know we have to get Minow I don't

13:50

think you can help that fight. I Think

13:53

you gotta look that fight The

13:56

chance of it getting to happen seems

13:59

real low Yeah, they tried doing

14:01

it before and yeah, yeah, we saw that went Man,

14:06

I'll said some some very harsh things

14:08

about Alex Perez But a good win for

14:10

Alex Perez good to see him back in

14:12

the wind calm Bogdan goose

14:14

cough, New York Rick. This guy is just

14:17

got it all he's getter get got he's fun

14:19

as hell He's one of those

14:21

guys. I could just make this division a better place

14:24

Ryan span out there doing Ryan span things and

14:26

then goose cough started doing goose cough things and

14:28

Gets a win and then gets on the mic

14:31

and I think Alan Joe band said it best

14:33

He's got a little bit of Moikana when him

14:35

he's just fun to listen to I just Want

14:38

to hear him do post-fight interviews all the

14:40

time Like if he could just step in

14:43

for Joaquin Buckley to do Joaquin Buckley's post-fight

14:45

interviews Like Joaquin Buckley would be the main

14:47

event of UFC st. Louis on May 11th

14:49

But what did you think of Bogdan's

14:52

performances by the way? He

14:55

obviously got a bonus Yeah,

14:57

Alex Perez obviously got a bonus you guys want

14:59

to guess the other two and then I'll have

15:01

you weigh in on unboxed ins. Oh So

15:03

they did a quad not a fight.

15:05

We did a Aros

15:07

for sure the three and

15:11

I who else won didn't

15:13

he? Padilla maybe

15:16

Nope, I need to these got it Padilla

15:18

should absolutely got one though. Yeah, perhaps the

15:20

dude who miss weight I feel like

15:23

they just looked awesome Yeah,

15:26

looked really good. They always favor the knockouts though

15:28

is kind of like how this

15:30

is true Oh, and yeah, Denise also

15:32

I'm not even upset with getting one

15:34

Yeah, these slept him and it was

15:36

a really funny KO like Austin Lee.

15:38

Yeah kind of Quit

15:41

and like I've never seen a guy

15:43

quit and get knocked out at the

15:46

same time Cuz you know

15:48

like we've seen the like Kimbo Dada Dada

15:50

just sort of falls over and is done

15:53

Often Lane did it while also falling

15:55

unconscious. It was very interesting way to

15:57

wait a little yeah, and after Austin

15:59

Lane beat the hell out of him the first round. I'm

16:02

okay with that. But you know,

16:04

Padilla deserves some love. All

16:07

those knockouts are pretty nasty. So they were

16:09

good. But they were good. Let's talk about

16:11

let's talk about Bogdan near quick. Would you think

16:13

his knockout his performance and his future in this

16:15

division? I think what he needed,

16:18

right? Like he's trying to be

16:20

one of the guys he's, he's definitely leaning into

16:22

this Anthony Smith angle that has been created for

16:24

him. And to his credit, like I think doing

16:26

it well, I think there could, there could be

16:29

some real quick burnout on that. And I will

16:31

admit like I'm getting close to it. But

16:34

I don't think it's because of him. I think

16:36

it's more because of everybody else kind of pushing

16:38

it. I think he's doing it well enough and

16:40

subtly enough and when asked. But this division beyond

16:43

the fact that of like winning the fight beyond

16:45

the fact that this was an impressive knockout against

16:47

the guy who's who's been ranked for a while.

16:51

He's got charisma. It's exactly what you said.

16:53

He's got personality. He's somebody you want to

16:55

hear on the mic. And this division desperately

16:57

needs that it is. It is an absolute

16:59

waste. Like talent wise, it's not great, but

17:01

even worse like personality and charisma, charisma wise,

17:03

it is lacking desperately. And he's a

17:06

fun character that could be injected into

17:08

this. So I'm all for the rise

17:10

of Bogdan. Like let's just let's

17:12

just keep pushing it. Give him give him favorable

17:15

matches until we can get them into a position

17:17

to be like really a player in this division

17:20

and see if he can sink or swim. But this

17:22

division needs somebody like him desperately.

17:26

Chad, your thoughts on what this guy

17:28

can do at 205? I mean, there's

17:30

all this talk about, you

17:32

know, him being Anthony Smith 2.0 to

17:35

some degree they look alike and all

17:37

of that. Your thoughts on where

17:39

this guy can go at 205 pounds? I

17:43

don't know. We'd be fun and

17:45

interesting, right? Like, how old is

17:48

he? Holds old boggy. Is he 31? No, ho

17:50

Hank is 31 turns 32 in September. Okay. I mean, 3031 is

17:52

pretty young for light

17:59

heavyweight. is that he's never

18:01

gonna want to belt but like I don't

18:03

know he can just have Nikita Krelov's career like

18:05

right he just do that there's kind of be

18:08

a top 10 fun action

18:10

fighter who pretty clearly

18:13

has some limitations but

18:15

you know he's gonna beat more people than he

18:17

loses to be there can you know

18:20

be interesting and be around but you

18:24

know it's fun to call him an out there more kano

18:27

I'm not sure that that's true but maybe like I

18:29

get where you're coming from at least with the thought

18:31

right but I need a little bit

18:34

more I do like me to know how Hank though

18:36

I think he he's just super

18:38

fun to watch because he's going to die or kill

18:40

and those are the best attributes

18:42

to have so I'd like heavyweight that

18:44

can carry us some some ways but

18:47

he would get absolutely slaughtered by people who

18:49

aren't Ryan's fan Ryan's band just

18:52

Ryan's band is what happened like that's

18:54

my primary takeaway from this fight it's

18:56

like oh yeah that's Ryan's

18:58

band doing the thing like he

19:00

was just absolutely clubbing Hank was

19:02

doing a smart thing and then

19:04

says like and I can't breathe

19:06

anymore I have cardio for about

19:08

six minutes and that

19:11

might even be too much to give him

19:13

credit for and then suddenly

19:15

like as soon as his plan a

19:17

does not lead to a finish Ryan's

19:20

band's plan B is I'm just

19:22

gonna punch and see what happens

19:24

that's not particularly good and

19:27

frankly and super not a

19:29

good plan when your opponent's only real

19:31

way to win is by brawling with

19:33

you so Ryan's band continues to

19:35

be the biggest disappointment at 205 he hooked

19:37

me he sold me when he said he

19:39

was taking with me seriously in training and

19:41

he was gonna be real good now and

19:44

I don't buy it anymore and that's why I

19:46

didn't buy for this fight and yeah you

19:48

know I would like to see

19:50

no Hank fight somebody who can fight

19:53

back after the six-minute mark has

19:55

passed let

19:58

me let me ask you this Who is who

20:00

has let you down more over the last three years?

20:04

Ryan span or Jake Matthews? Ryan

20:08

span has I mean because since

20:10

I believed in Ryan span he is

20:12

not one Jake Matthews

20:14

has at least one Though

20:17

not I mean the true answer is and

20:21

this is not just me. This is me and

20:23

Shaheen on McKinsey-Dern Island She

20:25

will forever be the disappointment Because

20:28

at least Ryan span has the decency when

20:30

he falls apart and loses for us He

20:33

does it in such a way that I no

20:35

longer believe in him McKinsey-Dern loses in a way

20:37

where I'm like she could just

20:40

like it's there you can see the you

20:42

can see it She is that has she's

20:44

right at the door She just can't walk

20:46

through it And so I can't give up

20:49

on the dream from McKinsey-Dern Ryan span the

20:51

dream is dead I let the dream go

20:53

and You know

20:55

it's just it's sad to see it

20:57

continue to happen even though. I'm no longer invested in

21:00

the ride What

21:02

do you think about this New York Rick Sometimes

21:05

you believe in fighters they turn oh Yeah,

21:08

they thought that they were I guess no my

21:11

heart is black I don't believe in anybody or

21:13

anything anymore, so that doesn't apply to me. I

21:15

don't believe in me You

21:17

son of a bitch. I mean

21:19

I believe in you Rick well. I appreciate

21:21

that One-sided I

21:23

even though you tried to kill UFC 300.

21:25

I still believe in you I Think

21:28

it's more of a I think if it's more of

21:30

a mentality of I believe in everybody and nobody will

21:32

you accept that like More of like a all encompassing

21:35

kind of like I believe in in you as

21:37

much as I believe in everybody and and nobody

21:39

at the same time so Hopefully you can accept

21:41

that I don't I don't accept that But

21:44

yeah, he's breaking this heart a great answer. That's such

21:46

a great answer Oh So

21:49

good, that's so good so favorable. This

21:51

is why he does so well in BTL

21:53

It's just such a put it turns into

21:55

such a political game in the best possible

21:57

way So good way to for

21:59

bogged Karina Silva continues to

22:01

do great things at 125. She's

22:04

gonna be a problem spirited performance

22:06

from Ariani D'Silva

22:08

I believe is the new name. Yeah, we

22:10

talked about these David. Oh nama gets wood

22:12

over Jonathan Pierce. That was a scratch That

22:15

was good. Here's an onama was a scrap. I like that

22:17

one a lot. I Like

22:20

there, you know mini max Holloway at the end

22:22

there. Yeah, just going for it

22:30

Here we go. No, here's the thing about this fight because

22:32

that fight is a perfect example of a thing

22:34

that I keep I've thought a lot this year and

22:36

just over the past few years Look

22:38

if you are a David or nah

22:40

or a JSP I'm

22:43

sorry to be the one to tell you this I

22:45

didn't want to I thought your friends your family your

22:47

teammates might have shared this Information you're

22:49

just gonna be a champion. You just ain't

22:51

now. It's not in the cards for you. You

22:53

don't have the makeup You

22:56

can still be a professional fighter. That is a career

22:58

you can choose to do. But if

23:00

you're gonna be one of those Be

23:02

a grizzly Any

23:05

fighter can be just engagey They might

23:07

not be as successful but you can

23:09

walk into every fight and be like

23:12

I am going to get a car crash

23:14

going and Just see where the

23:16

chips fall And if you do

23:19

we will love you for it because that

23:21

was fun as hell Rick You're right the

23:23

stand toe to toe and throw down You

23:25

could just do that from the jump and certainly

23:27

you could do it if things aren't going your

23:29

way You want to come out? I'm gonna try

23:31

and wrestle and if that doesn't work like I

23:33

would like Ryan's been a lot more if when

23:36

he gave up And started brawling it was We're

23:39

gonna settle this in the next 20 seconds not

23:42

I'm going to throw three punches and then

23:44

heave for breath and Then

23:46

I will slowly get knocked out over the course

23:48

of this round Just know when

23:51

you're at your limit be like be

23:53

like Korean zombie Korean zombie max Holloway

23:55

That's like one of my favorite retirement fights of

23:57

all time. Just why it being slightly sad because

24:00

Zombie just stared at Max at the third

24:02

round after the second round was like, I'm

24:05

done. I got nothing left. Moon

24:08

shot. We're going to solve this

24:10

question in the next 10 seconds,

24:12

whichever way it goes. Be that

24:14

guy more. Be like JSP and

24:16

David Onama. It's so much fun.

24:19

I support this movement. I will say

24:21

what happens sometimes is some people try

24:23

that. And then the other

24:25

fighter is so thrown off that they're not

24:28

willing to engage. And they kind of do

24:30

this weird defensive point fighting weird thing where

24:32

they're trying to stay away from it. But

24:34

I support this fully,

24:36

but I do. I will say that happens sometimes. Just call those

24:38

people cowards. Call

24:40

them cowards and bucket them like chickens

24:43

and draw them into anarchy.

24:46

That was definitely one of the highlights of the

24:49

evening until the last two fights. And it was

24:51

just like, oh, because these two dudes kind of

24:53

just threw cars from the wind and said, F

24:55

it. Let's try and get a bonus. Didn't work.

24:57

It was fun. Yeah.

25:00

Got a feel for Jonathan Pierce a little bit. This

25:02

guy, what? A year

25:04

ago was supposed to fight Bryce Mitchell in

25:06

like a top 10 fight and

25:08

then tears his ACL getting ready. And then he has

25:11

to come back by shortness and Brito gets

25:13

Ninja choked and then fights David Onama

25:15

who misses weight and prop.

25:17

Let's be honest, guys, like I think

25:20

this is something I can say fairly.

25:23

David Onama probably cost. There's a really good chance

25:25

David Onama cost John at the Pearson extra 50,000

25:27

bucks by missing weight because that could have

25:30

been a fight of the card. Yeah, it

25:32

was definitely the best fight of the card and no Nama by

25:34

missing weight disqualifies bonus. So you

25:36

think that that's why you think they

25:38

would have gone just with

25:40

the fight of the night versus doing quad

25:42

bonuses. I don't know. Like all the years

25:44

it made sense. If we're not made weight,

25:47

if we're not made weight, they might have

25:49

done it. But yeah, I mean, they might

25:51

have. I'm not sure. But it did take

25:53

that off the table completely. I'm

25:55

still not sure they might still have gone because the chaos were

25:57

all cool. Like, you know, they were fun. Yeah. But

26:00

again, when you're a beginning

26:02

or like second tier

26:04

contracted UFC fighter and you miss

26:06

weight, it means nothing. It

26:09

literally means nothing because 20% of your purse

26:11

is shit. But if you

26:13

go in there and win the fight, then like

26:15

it doesn't even matter. It almost like washes itself

26:17

out. So conversely, it could

26:19

actually be an advantage, right? We've seen this

26:21

before. I mean, you know, Ryan Garcia is

26:23

out here like flaunting it in everybody's face.

26:25

Like I didn't try to cut too hard.

26:27

I wanted an advantage, but like it's

26:30

an advantage. If you didn't have to suffer those

26:32

last pounds that your opponent did, it's

26:34

an advantage. And we're seeing it more and

26:36

more where it seems like the weight misses

26:38

are not, not maybe the frequency might be

26:40

the same, but we're seeing these drastic weight

26:42

misses where like there, it seems like the

26:44

person is just not trying to get down

26:46

to weight. So not only can it not

26:48

matter, it might even be an actual advantage

26:50

in a lot of these scenarios where the

26:53

fighter just didn't have to suffer. So yeah,

26:55

it's not great, honestly. Yeah,

26:57

the last three years, the guys missing weight are, we've

26:59

won most of the fights. I know this year is

27:01

like, there's been a little bit of a turn and

27:03

even the broadcast is talking about it, but you got

27:05

to lose a point if you miss weight. Like that

27:07

shit, like you got to make it hurt. 20% is

27:09

nothing. What was it

27:11

that Adesanya asked Dana in the cage for one time?

27:13

He was like 90% or something. 90% or 90% of

27:15

the fun. I

27:18

mean, it's not crazy. I don't

27:21

hate it. Like, but I also, I just think

27:23

you should lose a point. You should lose a

27:25

point. Let's impact the fight. Like

27:28

David or not would have made weight if you knew he was going to lose

27:30

a point heading in. I

27:32

think he canceled fights. I think

27:34

the fighter who makes weight gets their paycheck, fighter

27:37

who doesn't. Fights cancel. Don't

27:39

put. I'm okay with that too, actually.

27:42

So that's really the only way to

27:45

like to adequately handle it. Because otherwise, yeah,

27:47

people will just make the economic calculation of

27:49

it's worth 20% to not lose. Because

27:52

like, man, I, like

27:54

I know 100% if

27:57

I'm cutting this like weight, I'm like, man, this

27:59

sucks. It's just miserable and

28:01

you're like in the depths of that that

28:03

just garbage and you're like, okay if I

28:06

just stop now I'll

28:08

lose some money But I get to

28:10

stop now. I'll take that option.

28:12

I will make less weight. It's not stopped now

28:14

It's just how it's gonna be so it's like

28:17

yeah No, you don't get to fight and you

28:19

don't make the money and like that will be

28:21

harsh and it will suck but

28:24

I Know I'm done coddling fighters like sign up

28:26

for weights You can make and make them at

28:29

this level. That's what's gonna happen, right? You you see the

28:31

rare occasion where like somebody like Wonder Boy where there's too

28:33

much on the line where he's like No,

28:36

how about how about I don't take the fight? But

28:39

those are rare those are infrequent like when

28:41

you're when you're JSP, you need you need

28:43

this fight You have to take this fight.

28:45

So Oh namas in in real no real

28:47

danger. Yeah All

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Members of FDIC. Yep,

31:08

you're a Spanish. Good win. Victor Henry,

31:10

good win. He looked great. Yeah. Austin

31:12

Hubbard, Michael Fieglak might have been the

31:15

best made fight on

31:17

a prelim card ever in

31:20

terms of styles blending. Because that could have

31:22

been a 30-30 fight. It was so

31:26

frigging close. They were so evenly matched. I

31:29

don't even know what tangible sort of criteria

31:37

or measurements to use. That's how close these

31:39

three rounds were. It was really

31:42

compelling to watch. I only scored

31:44

around one of the main event live

31:46

blog. I was really

31:49

close to doing it. Yeah. There

31:51

was a lot of that tonight. Yeah.

31:54

We should score more 10-10s. The rules

31:56

really don't almost ever allow you to

31:58

score 10-10s, which is... Garbage

32:00

as well, but like there's a lot of competitive

32:02

stuff happening Decision

32:05

wins for Dontaille May's, Kettlin Sousa Maha

32:09

Shata got a split decision win that a lot

32:11

of people didn't really agree with Ivana

32:13

Petrovich Probably

32:15

ends Liang Na's UFC run, but

32:18

yeah, that's a Liang Na. She

32:20

doesn't she just tells the judges Go

32:23

get a hot dog. Go get a beer. There's

32:25

no need yet. You're gonna be needed for any

32:27

of these fights Be like be like Liang Na

32:30

Fighters be like Liang Na Just

32:33

have just go two rounds and then just be done

32:35

She is the author of her of her own fate

32:37

one way or the other That's

32:40

who you should be. I mean it

32:42

has been one way. That's for sure Yep,

32:44

you know, it's out to Chris Takopedia

32:46

getting it done. Yeah California

32:49

MMA and Casey's to

32:52

Casey Leiden's teammates had a big big

32:54

solid day today Yes,

32:56

Chris Padilla Victor Henry all

32:58

getting some victories good stuff Two things I want to

33:00

touch on real quick before we go to the piece

33:02

and we're only gonna take a couple of questions from

33:04

The piece because knuckle mania is on and we got

33:06

some shit to do. I'm not gonna lie to you.

33:08

So Two big storylines, New York

33:10

Rick. I will begin with you we

33:12

had some cage announcer madness going

33:14

on because all of a sudden Joe Martinez

33:17

is doing this thing and then

33:19

Karina Silva and Ariani just

33:21

to Silva and their fight and all

33:23

of a sudden John Gooden I don't

33:25

remember the exact terminology said something about

33:27

Joe Martinez being on the shakes of

33:29

the whatever the hell it was and

33:31

Charlie Arnold Announces

33:33

the winner of the fight We're just thinking maybe

33:35

took a bathroom break or something and then the

33:37

co-main event begins between Bogdan Guskoff and Ryan Spann

33:39

They both come to the uck gun Charlie or

33:42

not does the introductions for

33:44

them as well Does a damn good

33:46

job to like especially be thrust in

33:48

that like immediately. That was Pretty

33:51

damn good. I was impressed. She might actually

33:53

be a better cage announcer than Anything

33:56

else she does like that was super impressive. I

33:58

was blown away by it And

34:00

then she announced the winner and then Joe Martinez

34:02

comes back for the main event like heroic return.

34:04

Yeah It was like what the hell's going on?

34:07

So what did you make of all this cuz

34:09

that was freaking crazy I had the

34:11

same thought as you like commendable

34:14

Really solid effort by Charlie like I was

34:16

you know, that's a really tough position to

34:18

be in no matter what

34:20

you're doing cage announcing social

34:22

media any whatever your job is if

34:26

The person next to you falls out and you're

34:28

you have to just be next man or woman

34:30

up That's a rough spot to

34:33

be in and I thought Charlie did a really

34:35

solid solid job In

34:38

his seat in his stead and so good

34:41

for Charlie again Maybe this is like an

34:43

opportunity for her to say hey, I've got

34:45

these chops You know put me in coach

34:47

and give me another opportunity or just to

34:49

even curry favor with the UFC for other

34:51

opportunities Maybe it's not specifically that And

34:54

yes sending out some some good vibes

34:56

to Joe Martinez for whatever he was suffering through

34:58

it sounded like a lot of people kind of

35:01

noted that his voice was struggling throughout the

35:03

night and kind of Were

35:05

wondering what would happen there? So it sounds

35:07

like it finally was too much but

35:10

shout out to him for coming back and doing the

35:12

main event But yeah, Charlie, I mean stock up for

35:14

her. I imagine with UFC production crew because

35:17

she did a good job filling in I Mean

35:21

that is Very

35:24

clearly summed it up except for he failed to mention. I

35:26

don't remember what fight what fight did she come in for?

35:29

When when did it was it the Karina

35:31

Silva Ariani? green a

35:34

silver The cards yeah, yeah, which means

35:36

she came in and with five minutes of prep had to be

35:38

ready to go to pronounce Fogg

35:43

then Sarovitch Guskov, which is not

35:45

easy Like

35:47

it's just that's just not a lot of

35:49

people would butcher that I might butcher it

35:51

right then You

35:54

know, she she didn't have an easy run of

35:56

it and did Well,

36:00

uh, I honestly kind

36:02

of wish that he just left her. It was a

36:05

little odd to have Joe Martinez come back because it's

36:07

just a weird situation. I like Joseph Martinez. I think

36:09

that he should honestly plant

36:13

buffer as I don't care for buffer much.

36:16

Um, but I can't

36:18

deal with him asking Las

36:20

Vegas if it's ready. Las

36:22

Vegas cannot make noise because there are four

36:25

people in an empty gymnasium. And so him

36:27

coming back for the main event, just to

36:29

do that every time it

36:31

just hurts me in my soul, whereas I'm

36:33

pretty sure she would not have been like

36:35

Las Vegas. Make some noise if you already,

36:37

uh, but she did a great job and

36:40

that should tell you everything you need to know about the

36:42

card, frankly, when the biggest story coming out of it is

36:44

that, because I think that is the biggest story

36:46

coming out of this evening. I

36:49

kind of wanted her to do it

36:51

just so I could hear what you would say. Cause I

36:53

bet you thought about this before. I think all of us

36:55

at one point have thought about it. We

36:57

don't, what would her, what would her thing?

36:59

Honestly, I swear to you. I have never

37:01

thought about that. Interesting. I

37:03

mean, I've done it before. So I thought of

37:06

one on the spot. What was yours? Uh,

37:09

get out of your seats and on your feet because,

37:11

and I just yell here we go. Like in a,

37:13

just a loud obnoxious thing, but the whole thing, it

37:15

was just like a spot. I was like, oh shit,

37:17

I need to like come up with something cool and

37:20

like all the cool things are taken. So

37:23

that's what I came up with like two seconds

37:25

before. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is that

37:27

not part of my theme song as well? I'm

37:30

pretty sure that's in my theme song. So I

37:33

think I've, I think I've now inherited that.

37:35

That's, I think I've inherited yours. Yeah.

37:37

So I think that's what I ended up going. Definitely

37:40

an area. It's definitely an area. Maybe it's an area.

37:42

Maybe I'm thinking about it. Definitely an Arial's intro. I

37:44

don't know if it's an area. It's an area. Okay.

37:46

There you go. So Ariel gets the, uh, the spiritual,

37:48

it could be in yours too. That's it's a cliche

37:50

thing that I've. That I'll come up with for the

37:52

MMA space. Uh, the other thing that

37:55

people have been asking me about, I got about

37:57

four or five DMS about this before we came

37:59

on. And it was a

38:01

big talking point on Twitter, so you might as well talk about it. Jed

38:04

Michoud, if you could give a

38:06

letter grade to Dominic

38:08

Cruz's performance tonight, what would you give

38:11

it and why? It's

38:13

an F, because it's always an F. We answer this

38:15

in the pre-fire Q&A. I

38:18

don't care for Dominic Cruz's commentary.

38:20

There are several people who like it. There

38:22

are several people on our staff. Well, maybe

38:24

not several. There's at least one individual on

38:26

our staff who is a big supporter of

38:29

Dominic Cruz on commentary, and that's fine. This

38:31

is a purely subjective opinion.

38:35

He is the last person alive that I

38:37

would want to do commentary other

38:39

than the former Bellator

38:42

team of Josh Thompson and Big

38:44

John McCarthy. I want them even less than him

38:47

somehow, but it's awful. He's

38:49

getting worse, in my opinion, and I don't

38:52

enjoy him. I actually thought Daniel Cormier did better

38:54

tonight. He has been a little bit better

38:56

lately, though my

38:58

rule applies. And it's

39:00

not just in May rule. I think

39:03

color commentators across all sports should have

39:05

a five-year maximum and probably

39:07

less than that. But remember, we

39:09

used to love Tony Romo in the booth, too, and

39:11

now Tony Romo is just kind of

39:13

pedantic and sucky. You

39:16

just turn into a trope of yourself. And

39:18

Dominic Cruz turning into a trope of himself

39:21

when his original version was bad is deeply

39:25

unenjoyable for me. The one that really

39:27

drove me up a wall and made

39:29

me actually muted today, which happens often.

39:32

What was he saying? Oh, I

39:35

forget what fight where they

39:37

mentioned the phrase imposter syndrome.

39:40

And Dominic Cruz has apparently never heard

39:42

of imposter syndrome, which is fine. But

39:45

he's like, what's imposter syndrome? And they

39:47

suppose like, yeah, it's just not feeling

39:49

like you're good enough to be where

39:51

you belong. And he's like, back in

39:54

my day, they called that a lack

39:56

of confidence. We just got

39:58

two minute names for things. days

40:00

you gotta stop naming all this stuff

40:02

just just get a little more confident

40:04

rub some dirt on it like he's

40:06

a thousand years old just an old

40:09

man yelling at a cloud

40:11

about medical college like

40:13

dude just you don't have to you

40:15

just be fine with it so f

40:18

f- whatever the worst f is get

40:20

him off off my ear balls every

40:22

time he's in the booth I'd be

40:24

preferable but if

40:26

you enjoyed it cool I guess that

40:29

he's he he actually said into a live

40:31

microphone so Marnick man won that third

40:33

round huh DC DC's like no

40:36

what the hell it was the Marnick man fight

40:38

that's right guys so yeah those both happened within

40:40

like 45 seconds in the third

40:42

round the Marnick man fight it was

40:44

top man and then like you watch

40:46

the Victor Henry fight and you watch

40:48

the Karine Silva Ariana De Silva fight

40:51

and he's great like he's really good in

40:53

those spots because he's talking about transitions like

40:55

what this fighter needs to do what this

40:57

fighter needs to do like kind of what

41:00

Rogan used to do but then he starts

41:02

like giving the opinions and being the

41:04

things that you sort of described yet and

41:06

it just and him his lack of knowledge

41:09

of the rules and the criteria for

41:11

scoring and just the rules of MMA

41:14

in general New York drive me crazy

41:16

it's for we've been doing this for

41:18

four fucking years now like read a

41:20

fucking book do something Jesus

41:22

Christ man I will

41:25

admit he's certainly been diminished in

41:27

my eyes like I think he started pretty decently

41:30

because he leaned more into the analysis and and

41:32

being able to like break down technique of things

41:34

like that and now it's kind of straight from

41:36

that but I also will admit I'm not as

41:38

fired up about it as you guys like I

41:41

kind of I kind of just

41:43

see them all at a similar level these days there's

41:45

not really like any that stands so far about the

41:47

rest of them like yeah I have to have that

41:49

so I just kind of deal with it it

41:51

is what it is he just

41:53

wants to show that he's on says something

41:55

that drives me up a wall he is

41:58

so clearly supposed to be a desk Like

42:01

that is the thing he can do and it

42:03

just makes so much... But they put him in a

42:06

booth and I and they keep doing it and I

42:08

honestly don't know why. Because

42:10

you're right every once in a while he

42:12

has like a germane piece of breaking stuff

42:14

down. My original issues with him were entirely

42:16

based around if you don't fight

42:18

the way he fights you're fighting wrong and he

42:21

is so clear when he talks about like oh

42:23

they're not doing what I do so they're stupid

42:25

and this is bad. Which is like pretty obviously

42:27

not an accurate way to

42:30

represent things but he clearly like Smith's

42:32

champion like his decorated fighter he knows

42:34

what he's talking about and the times

42:36

he does that that's okay like occasionally

42:38

he and DC will talk about some

42:40

like bit of wrestling stuff that's great

42:43

but there's so few and far between put the

42:45

man on a desk like let Anthony

42:47

Smith serve as a comm tail see how

42:49

he does like Michael Kiazaa. They just have

42:51

so many people yeah they just

42:53

have so many people who already do the desk

42:56

analysts like let them get a shot in the

42:58

booth and let's keep cycling

43:00

them out like it there's no reason

43:02

for DC and Cruz and Felder to

43:04

just own the commentary roles when there's

43:06

plenty of other opportunity for people who

43:09

can talk to get a chance in

43:11

there. There

43:14

you go we talked about it we're

43:16

gonna take if you guys got like

43:18

the most compelling things on your mind to talk

43:21

about when it comes to CFC card like bring

43:23

it to the table now this is like last

43:25

call at the bar there's a man walking out

43:27

of BKFC and a Michael Myers mask so yeah

43:30

we're getting that's really compelling real quick our

43:33

old friend Akilah's junior step again calling

43:35

Rick the B side of this

43:38

conversation but this I guess this would be a Jed

43:40

question we try to talk I think we talked about

43:42

this in the preview show like how do you like

43:45

even put a FART score on BKFC and I

43:47

don't think you really can but you don't if

43:49

you want to try no the FART score is trends

43:52

the BKFC definition

43:54

Lee transcends the FART system

43:56

the FART system is Really

44:00

just designed for the apex and for

44:03

trying to codify or contextualize how

44:05

bad these this dribble is BKFC

44:08

is lovely and like if you want to

44:10

do like the regular BKFC events and you

44:12

we could probably get farts involved in there

44:15

Nuckle manias they're they're

44:17

transcendent. They get I mean this knuckle

44:20

this BKFC Machul and star if

44:22

I was in where is it's in it's in LA.

44:24

Yeah, right Yeah, if

44:26

I was in anywhere near LA I would a

44:28

thousand percent be attending knuckle mania This is a

44:31

machine and star for sure. So

44:33

it doesn't get farts. It gets a machine and

44:35

star and it gets one. I Just

44:39

want to know how I'm the B side like why am I

44:41

the B side? You know

44:43

clearly you feel strongly about this. I kill it.

44:45

Hey, I need to know I need to understand

44:47

this better So please let me know exactly why

44:50

please and you know how you know how to do it Just

44:52

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45:44

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Guttling and Emily Blunt in the movie

45:48

critics say To make you

45:50

happy turn me count and I don't need

45:52

that. That what I'm into right now. We

45:54

went to talking. Yeah The

45:57

fall guy only in theaters may 3rd rated PG-13

46:00

I could get a coffee tomorrow. People

46:02

think I have to really use the money to get Duncan to get a

46:04

coffee. They think it goes directly

46:06

to your like Starbucks card and reload day.

46:09

Oh sorry, Duncan, right? Duncan, not Starbucks. Oh

46:12

yeah, we're at Duncan Household here.

46:15

This BKFC ring is full of

46:18

ads. They are running out

46:20

of real estate to put

46:22

sponsorships on in the

46:24

BKFC. You see, it's looking pretty similar. They'll

46:26

be there soon. Oh

46:28

yeah, dude, it's gonna be insane. Like

46:30

the walkout ramp, like everything, or the

46:32

walk-in aisle, all the, there'll be ads

46:34

everywhere. I guess we'll end here. Conor

46:37

McGregor teasing a big announcement during KnuckleMania.

46:39

Who wants to take a guess? Anybody

46:41

have an idea? Any thoughts? Predictions?

46:45

I mean, yes,

46:48

but I don't know if we're supposed

46:50

to say it. I

46:54

don't know. This to

46:56

me feels more like him kind of like

46:58

doing like a sponsorship,

47:01

proper 12-y, you

47:04

know, Forge Stout kind of thing, but I

47:06

don't know what it was. 100%.

47:10

So Thing already sponsors BKFC. Isn't Proper

47:12

12 already a partner with them? I

47:15

think it's just like event-to-event, you know,

47:18

they kind of like do it, but

47:20

maybe there's like a larger... So Forge

47:22

Irish Stout is because it's on the

47:24

canvas right now. I'm looking at the

47:26

ad right now. But Feldman at

47:28

the presser was like shout out to like

47:30

Proper 12 and stuff. And

47:33

I honestly, I don't know if that is Forge Irish

47:35

Stout and Proper 12 exists under the same, like I

47:37

know they're both McGregor things, but I don't know if

47:39

they are the same corporate entity

47:41

or separate corporate entities. I would

47:43

imagine they're the same. They run through

47:45

the same business. Like it's

47:48

all part of his liquor.

47:51

It all comes under his thing, so I

47:53

would assume. But like they're already there. So

47:56

it just seems almost a certainty that what

47:58

they are... announcing is an

48:01

increase of the sponsorship thing, right? Like

48:03

a KnuckleMania 5

48:06

presented by thing or

48:08

whatever. Yeah. Here's the proper

48:10

12, doc out of the night or fight of

48:12

the night or... Yeah. It's at least smart enough

48:14

in my opinion to like at least make you

48:16

think something about Mike Perry, maybe, right? Because the

48:18

last time we saw Connor involved in this is

48:21

like he was in the ring with Mike Perry.

48:23

So you could do worse than like sponsoring an

48:25

event, even if it is that that Mike Perry

48:27

is related to because maybe it gets some kind

48:29

of like juices flowing and people

48:31

thinking it's beyond that. So good

48:33

marketing and branding for them. I don't know

48:36

what ultimately... I think the bonuses actually sounds

48:38

like a good thought, Mike. Just like, and

48:41

tonight we're giving out, you know, $50,000, proper

48:43

12, proper

48:46

performance bonus of the, you know, of

48:49

the evenings or whatever. Who

48:53

had the most stuff tonight? Yeah.

48:55

You're welcome. You had the most stuff

48:57

inside that ring. Anytime you want

48:59

to call me up, I got ideas for days, baby.

49:01

We can get cooking. I can do this. I feel

49:04

like you belong. Mike Malott's got to start putting a

49:06

message out to Connor and be like, hey, you know,

49:08

it's there. It's right there for you. Welcome.

49:12

Come into the tent with me. All

49:14

right. We'll take, we're gonna go rapid fire

49:17

here. Just real quick, one syllable, because

49:19

I don't think you'd need more than this. Karina

49:22

Silva wins. She's 4-0 on the UFC. How many fights

49:24

away from a title is she? I

49:27

will say four. Three

49:29

or three. I'll say three. Maybe

49:31

four. Because you got to do the

49:33

thing. You got to do the thing. And she's not willing to

49:35

do the thing, but she is. I'm not

49:37

saying she, like that's necessarily her,

49:40

but at some point you have to have a name

49:42

in mind. And I feel like she's never gonna say

49:44

the right one. It's

49:46

probably somewhere along there. There's just so many contenders

49:49

there that like are doing more with

49:51

the, with the opportunity that it's going to take

49:53

a while. And let me just

49:55

say this for all of the people out there that

49:57

are saying, let's just do just to do the thing.

50:00

because they have the same last name, you keep

50:02

Korean A-Silva away from Nadi Ice because Nadi Ice

50:05

is gonna thump her up proper so don't do

50:07

it. Don't do that. Don't do

50:09

that. Nadi Ice, let's get Nadi Ice in there

50:11

with the top five opponent. Let's push her to

50:13

the moon right now because she is, the

50:16

number for her is definitely less. She gets like

50:18

a good name next and that's the big performance.

50:21

She's one win away. So what

50:23

if, what if Korean

50:25

A-Silva changes her name legally

50:27

to Natalia Silva and

50:29

then she kind of games the system

50:32

to sneak into a title shot singer.

50:35

She should change her name to Nadi Ice.

50:37

That'd be incredible. My name is now

50:39

Nadi Ice Silva. Like I'm the true Nadi Ice. I

50:41

love it. Alright, couple

50:43

super chats. Terry, my question,

50:46

if you had a burger or sandwich named

50:48

after you, what would be on it? This

50:51

is a great question. Mine is always

50:53

very, I like simple, right? When it comes to sandwiches,

50:55

when it comes to bowls, when it comes to wraps,

50:57

when it comes to things like that, my

51:00

key is simplicity because what

51:02

happens inevitably is somebody goes, I

51:04

want ten different things and then they turn

51:06

into this stew. They turn it into this

51:08

mish-mosh of shit that nobody wants to eat.

51:11

So mine would probably be just

51:13

a simple patty, right? Like a real nice

51:15

like Angus beef patty. Your

51:19

choice of cheese, like typically, maybe for

51:22

me it's gonna be provolone.

51:24

Provolone could be a nice little mix there to

51:26

make it a little something different. Pepper jack's

51:28

always good. Jalapenos, mushrooms,

51:33

minimal sauce. Maybe no sauce, but if we're

51:35

gonna do sauce, we're gonna keep it something

51:38

like pretty light and not go overboard. Definitely

51:40

not ketchup and probably not barbecue either, but

51:42

we'll do something nice there and that's it.

51:44

Keep it simple. Like my sandwich, my burger

51:46

is gonna be simple. I'm

51:48

very much with you on the burger. I wouldn't

51:51

do the mushrooms. I do bacon for sure. Sure.

51:53

Popular. Lettuce

51:55

and tomato on there. The sauce

51:58

would be sort of a spicy variety.

52:00

Yeah, I think the burger would be

52:02

seasoned in like a Southwest seasoning, almost like

52:05

a taco seasoning. So let's just

52:07

really do this up with a little bit of

52:09

spice, like not burn your fucking face off, but

52:11

like just enough of a kick to make you

52:13

just feel like this is a different type of

52:15

thing. And each bite just feels more magical than

52:17

the next. But Pepper Jack is absolutely right. Call

52:20

maybe just a homemade mild hot sauce that you

52:22

just throw in there. Not too much, just a

52:25

little. So you get a little bit of a

52:27

of a drip during every single bite. Something

52:29

like that is where I would go. Jed, have you have

52:32

you thought about what the Jed Michoud would look like? I

52:35

think if the Jed Michoud would be some sort of

52:37

a sandwich, but burgers just easier

52:40

to build on. You guys are wrong.

52:43

The wonderful Anthony Bourdain said it

52:45

best. The real only

52:47

use for American cheese is that it

52:49

is the perfect burger cheese. It

52:52

is a cheese just designed to

52:54

sit atop a burger. The rest of

52:56

the time American cheese is just garbage,

52:59

but it is a perfect cheese for

53:01

burger. So it's an

53:03

American cheeseburger, crispy

53:05

bacon, I'm talking burnt black bacon,

53:08

grilled onions, and then grilled

53:12

onions is critical move. And then in lieu

53:15

of a sauce, I've become a really big

53:17

fan of doing the fried egg on

53:19

the burger. I like that. You get a little

53:21

runny fried egg, it works like a sauce, but

53:24

it brings a little something different. Okay,

53:26

but can we can we all agree that

53:29

the maniacs who are like put french fries

53:31

and ten different like obscure things that just

53:33

don't need to be on it is like

53:35

the dumbest possible thing. These like foodie blogs

53:37

or Instagrams and TikToks

53:40

I'm seeing of people piling shit on top

53:42

of it to make it not taste like

53:44

anything anymore is like the dumbest possible trend.

53:46

I don't even usually like

53:48

a double burger just because

53:50

it's too tall. It's like I

53:52

like a bite

53:54

needs to be a bite and

53:57

like for a lot of places a double cheeseburger kind

53:59

of doesn't. work in that regard. You

54:02

know, a place like In-N-Out or whatever it's fine,

54:04

but yeah, that would be

54:06

the case. If I

54:08

was going to a burger, that's kind of

54:10

my ideal cheeseburger, which I also think is

54:12

the perfect meal. I

54:15

think there's very few things better than a cheeseburger in

54:17

the whole wide world. Like a

54:20

really good cheeseburger, yeah. It

54:22

depends on the time of night. That

54:25

3 a.m. cheeseburger, that hits. That's

54:27

different. Yeah, that's a money move.

54:30

I'm not gonna lie, I had some In-N-Out after

54:32

the UFC 300 Watch Party. It was just

54:35

incredible. Like it was just incredible. It just

54:37

needed to happen after talking for seven and

54:39

a half hours and then doing

54:41

a post-fight show till 5 a.m. Just walk

54:43

right across the street, boom, get it

54:45

all taken care of. Killas is for

54:48

your McDonald's coffee. That's why you're the

54:50

B-side. Rick, you're just, he

54:52

didn't want to finish that set. He didn't want to finish, of course

54:54

he didn't. He's a coward. It could be anything. Killas

54:57

Jr. is an absolute coward. Rick, you're just

54:59

the best. I am the best. You're

55:01

just the best. Yes, fill in the blank.

55:03

Yes, you are his, yes, you

55:05

are the best. Which BKFC fight are

55:07

we looking most forward to? I think it's pretty

55:09

obvious. Honestly, it's not.

55:12

The main is down. I got

55:14

sold. Lorenzo Hunt and Mick

55:17

Terrell, the presser, sold me, man.

55:19

I can't, I haven't stopped

55:21

thinking about just, that's the

55:23

funniest thing I've seen all month. Lorenzo

55:26

Hunt is must

55:28

watch press. I don't know, the fights are

55:31

good. Lorenzo Hunt is very much the guy

55:33

that you described earlier in terms of, I'm

55:35

just gonna go out there and slug with

55:37

people. He does that. When

55:39

he's got nothing left, he's trying to kill

55:41

somebody before he gets got. But

55:43

press conference wise, just talking on the mic

55:46

wise, Lorenzo Hunt might be the best in

55:48

the business. He's a

55:50

master. He's kind of like a

55:52

head of jam. He's so much more famous than he is. Agreed. He's

55:55

much more famous. He, I am

55:57

interviewing him next week if he wins tonight. Like we're

55:59

gonna do something. Even if we do a live show

56:01

and people can come in and ask him questions, I

56:03

think that would be the best Q&A of all time.

56:07

What I really love about him, what's so

56:09

great about him, certainly he's a little bit

56:11

outlandish and over the top. He's doing a

56:13

character, certainly. The mink code and just talking

56:15

about what he's saying. But

56:18

he's also sharp and he's

56:20

got a mind for the business. It's

56:22

not just the bluster. It's not just

56:24

the performative stuff. They

56:27

showed the scene before the press conference

56:29

started where he's sitting in Mik Terrell's spot

56:31

and being like, I'm on the A side.

56:33

I'm not moving. And they're

56:35

trying to convince him and he's sitting there and he's

56:37

me mugging. And at a certain point he gets up

56:39

because he has to get up because Dave Feldman's like,

56:41

we're not going to pay you in the press conference

56:43

has to start. And he has enough sense to like

56:45

let the show go on. But for

56:48

that moment, he's commanding it. And then he

56:50

relents and goes and does it. I'm

56:53

a huge Lorenzo Hunt fan. Like this dude

56:55

is just smashing it every time he's on

56:58

my screen. It was just

57:00

so every part of it was good to

57:02

fit the the fur vest because

57:04

it's not a coat. He's wearing like

57:06

a hoodie with the belt. But

57:11

the hoodie is also like drawn up around

57:13

his neck. So it's just like it's encompassing

57:15

his face and he's screaming about he's the

57:18

ace. I like I'm not

57:20

the B side. I've got I've got more

57:22

fights than everybody up here. He called them

57:24

some I don't know why I'm not the

57:26

face. He said next to me

57:28

is bums who have like to be can see

57:30

fire. He's calling them bums. It was great.

57:33

I don't know why he sat me over here

57:35

with the bums. I have more fights than

57:37

everyone here. Come by. I

57:39

mean, like Perry shouldn't be the face of this. And

57:42

then make Tyrell. God love him. I

57:44

don't know if he just didn't know what was happening.

57:47

He did it. But he brings he brings

57:49

the the measure. Yeah. Yeah.

57:51

I mean, I don't know if you're out for a gimmick. I don't

57:54

think he's six foot. I know immediately there

57:56

is a hunt like if you want

57:58

to measure something. This

58:00

is unbelievable Bitch so good to his

58:02

credit Mike Perry also had some great

58:05

comedic time like that to be like

58:08

Brilliantly right there and then

58:10

Lorenzo hunt is being like look

58:13

you got to survive Like

58:15

y'all don't know where I'm from and I could

58:17

you got to be able to see these things

58:19

that man is covered in Not

58:21

neo-nazi tattoos and Victor. Oh

58:23

just listen I have a

58:25

star of David tattooed on my stomach

58:28

and he stands up Is

58:31

the best that press comes is

58:33

unbelievably fun. You're right Watching

58:36

the co-mate of it now. That's the right.

58:38

You're right. You got it. You're right They

58:41

saw me and it's like one of the very few

58:43

times that a press conference has ever Like

58:46

shifted my focus towards one and

58:48

they absolutely did. I gotta watch

58:50

that fight. You got me. You're

58:52

right We're

58:54

talking on heck of a morning yesterday about like

58:58

Going to you have UFC events live and and

59:00

I'm kind of with Ariel on this like I think

59:02

every fan needs to go Once and then you're just

59:04

like, okay. I've got it BKFC

59:07

is the NHL of combat sports

59:09

where Much

59:12

better going live that is watching it on TV

59:14

Do you think a lot of that has to

59:16

do with the ring because I feel like the

59:18

ring matters a significant amount The

59:20

ring matters the environment matters

59:23

They're in the right buildings like they're

59:26

they're doing it perfectly like they're putting the right

59:29

They're in the right size buildings with the right amount

59:31

of people like they're not going to

59:34

You know, they're not going to TD Garden

59:36

to do BKFC. They're going to like the

59:39

Lowell Memorial Auditorium that has like 4000

59:42

people instead of 15,000 seats. It's just

59:44

like the perfect bunch of Freaking

59:47

maniacs going to these cards and

59:50

then like the celebs are there You never know

59:52

who's gonna show up and then everyone

59:54

is just It's just it's

59:56

a circus like the whole thing is a circus but

59:58

in like the best possible I'm

1:00:01

telling you, especially like these bigger events,

1:00:03

you've got to go. If you're a fan, you have to go.

1:00:06

I was super underrated. Yeah, super

1:00:08

underrated. Your point

1:00:10

about not going to venues that are

1:00:13

too big. When you start going to these venues because

1:00:15

you want the prestige of like, we

1:00:19

did this arena and it's three

1:00:21

quarters empty. You're adult. You're

1:00:24

a bad promoter. You're adult. Seriously.

1:00:27

And to your point, BKFC being

1:00:29

like, these are the perfect venues for our scale.

1:00:31

And we're going to have it feel like a

1:00:33

zoo in here and a madhouse is the absolute

1:00:35

perfect thing that you need to be doing. And

1:00:38

too many promoters don't take that cue. Shout

1:00:40

out to Feldman and BKFC because that's the

1:00:42

way to do it. And now

1:00:45

we're going to do it. Apropos of nothing. Shout

1:00:47

out to GameBread. You know, they're out there

1:00:49

just promoting them. They need to

1:00:51

go live with them. Reasonable venues for themselves,

1:00:53

doing great. I said this

1:00:55

a million times. They need to go to like the ECW arena.

1:00:58

Like those are the places they need to go. Like 1,200 people, like just,

1:01:00

that's it. Like

1:01:04

the ravenous of the ravenous. And

1:01:06

just slowly grow. Oh, Alex

1:01:08

Brooker. Oh, something happened.

1:01:11

Alex Brooker in the comments says, could have gone tonight,

1:01:13

but I'd only be going for Perry. Missed

1:01:15

opportunity. Oh, dude, you blew it. You

1:01:17

fucking blew it. This is for sure

1:01:19

a Michelin star thing, man. Dude, I

1:01:21

just went on Twitter and scrolled for

1:01:23

five seconds. There's already like 19 fights

1:01:26

in the crowd. Like there's fights

1:01:28

in the crowd in like every other video that I'm scrolling

1:01:30

through. Like that's the shit that you're missing. You never know.

1:01:34

Like the one I covered, the

1:01:36

Paige Van Zant Race-A-Lot, Wade Trelosovitz card. That was enough

1:01:38

of Mania too, right? That was

1:01:41

one of the regular BKFC. Oh, really? Okay.

1:01:44

It was incredible. Like it was a really

1:01:46

fun card and there's really good fights on

1:01:48

it. Really good storylines. The press conference is

1:01:50

unreal. They had like influencers who were like

1:01:52

fighting each other and talking shit. The press

1:01:54

conference, like all of it was so great.

1:01:56

But Alex, yeah, you totally. You

1:02:00

totally screwed up, man. You totally screwed up. Honestly, it's

1:02:02

not too late. Isn't this card ending in like six

1:02:04

hours from now? Just go. Yeah.

1:02:07

I mean, I have to know what... We have to go. I

1:02:09

would love to know why you ultimately chose

1:02:12

not to go, and if your reason is,

1:02:14

eh, I'd only be going

1:02:16

for Mike Perry, then that's a terrible reason. But if

1:02:18

it's Lorenzo Hunt, maybe... If you're only going for Mike

1:02:20

Perry, you should have watched the presser, because you'd be

1:02:22

going for Lorenzo Hunt, dude. If

1:02:25

it's like, oh, my fiance was going to leave me

1:02:27

if I went to the card, that's a different reason.

1:02:30

No, it's still in play for me at that

1:02:32

point. I think you still have some decisions to

1:02:35

make. The next time BKFC

1:02:37

is anywhere near me geographically, I am

1:02:39

100% going. Yeah.

1:02:42

We should both go, Jed. I think we should go. I

1:02:44

mean, yes. The next time one's

1:02:46

around, I'm up that all

1:02:48

the way in. After you went

1:02:50

that first time and we're talking about it, I

1:02:52

was like, man, this seems unbelievably fun. And

1:02:55

that was in Tampa, and that's one we could

1:02:57

both go to very easily. They need to go

1:02:59

back to the Tampa fairgrounds. Paige

1:03:02

Van Zandt fought at the freaking

1:03:04

Tampa fairgrounds. She didn't fight in

1:03:06

the big arena. She didn't fight in the football stadium.

1:03:09

She fought at the fairgrounds, and

1:03:11

it was electric in the fairgrounds.

1:03:13

It's the coolest thing ever. Unbelievable.

1:03:15

All right. We got

1:03:17

to go. Let's enjoy the electricity of KnuckleMania

1:03:20

4 together, ladies and gentlemen. Enjoy

1:03:22

the card. Follow along on mnafighting.com. This

1:03:24

is your host, Rick Brageda. I am iCac.

1:03:26

We'll be back talking more UFC tomorrow on

1:03:28

On to the Next, with myself and AK,

1:03:31

and we'll be getting ready for

1:03:33

another UFC pay-per-view. It's happening, guys.

1:03:35

UFC 301. Can

1:03:38

Vinny Siggs become the flyweight champion of

1:03:40

the world? Or will Alexander Vangelis- No.

1:03:43

I'm picking him. I've decided I'm

1:03:45

picking him. I'm very close

1:03:47

after watching a lot of fights. What are you- Christ

1:03:50

almighty. I love this guy. It's

1:03:52

a great time. Just

1:03:54

think about him as Vincenzo Ursag, and you'll

1:03:56

pick him, too. You're still hung

1:03:58

up on him being Steve. He's not

1:04:00

Steve. We did a rebrand. This.

1:04:03

New brand can be defeated. If

1:04:06

he was Lorenzo hot, I'd buy it. If

1:04:08

not, Lorenzo Hunt. So and for not really

1:04:10

an hour, shinzo or sag. Know. If

1:04:13

Lorenzo Hunt was managing him, I buy

1:04:15

a. Car.

1:04:19

That's a basic idea. Can

1:04:22

we already know the managed? Yeah that

1:04:24

was like. Just. As

1:04:26

we leave, everyone starts thinking about

1:04:29

the Renzo Hot Fighter Manager who.

1:04:32

I love it, I love it or

1:04:34

in the hunt fight circus. Connectors

1:04:37

to. Remember

1:04:39

that honors and alpha he got the

1:04:41

two entities together and to get to

1:04:43

a silver and then ah I I

1:04:46

will gov that wherever it is. put

1:04:48

it on the good mood I'll be.

1:04:50

Is there a chance this Mcgregor announcement

1:04:52

is actually something good? For some reason

1:04:54

I'm like maybe it's something that's definitely

1:04:56

sister every other get sponsorship thing I

1:04:58

was thinking about like I I I

1:05:01

honestly think might nailed. It with that it's.

1:05:03

The post fight proper bonus. Or

1:05:05

whatever. Yeah, Well

1:05:08

we'll find out whether Lorenzo not writing

1:05:10

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1:05:12

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1:05:15

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