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317 // Jessica Stacks - Part 2

Released Thursday, 18th August 2022
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317 // Jessica Stacks - Part 2

317 // Jessica Stacks - Part 2

317 // Jessica Stacks - Part 2

317 // Jessica Stacks - Part 2

Thursday, 18th August 2022
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0:32

welcome back to missing i am

0:34

tim here today with lance lance how are

0:36

you today it's going fantastic

0:38

today it's been a heck of a week

0:40

has been it that as well

0:42

it's been a rollercoaster i hope everyone

0:44

out there has had a good week or tim

0:47

we've had our ups and downs this week

0:49

where have you landed

0:51

i'm doing great lance i

0:53

am happy to bring

0:55

fine audience this episode

0:57

this some heartfelt

1:00

, with the mom

1:02

of jessica stacks are

1:05

guess today her name is cathy and

1:08

it were speaking about the disappearance of her daughter

1:10

jessica stacks who went missing on

1:12

new year's day in twenty day

1:14

in from the tallahassee river

1:17

in new albany mississippi

1:19

and while at the disappearance

1:21

of jessica is indeed

1:23

tragic the interview

1:25

and the conversation that we have with her mom

1:28

at your about here is an incredible glimpse

1:31

into the rock pain

1:33

that someone feels when they

1:36

are dealing with these

1:38

circumstances you mention

1:40

that she disappeared on january first

1:43

two thousand twenty one so this so this

1:45

new you are cathy

1:47

i mean these these wounds don't heal any

1:50

year and a half they don't heal in

1:52

five years they sometimes never heal

1:54

and listeners get

1:57

the the opportunity

1:59

right now too

2:00

i understand the pain that someone goes through

2:03

i mean the the emotion in this

2:05

interview is if

2:07

if you're to score it on a one to ten it's

2:09

like a twelve cathy is frustrated

2:11

with law enforcement and

2:13

desperate for answers jessica's

2:16

boyfriend at the time it did not

2:19

report jessica missing jessica has still

2:21

not spoken with cathy tragic

2:23

case it's an emotional arm episode

2:26

and if you have any information you

2:28

can call six call six five

2:30

three four one nine four

2:32

three and it's one of the episodes where

2:34

i personally wish that someone who

2:37

is responsible for this or

2:39

somebody investigating and or somebody who has information

2:43

actually here's this because if

2:45

you have any sort of connection

2:47

to just gives disappearance and you hear

2:49

her mom you are missing

2:52

something in yourself if

2:54

you don't reach out to try to help her and if

2:56

you haven't heard part one that makes your to scroll

2:58

back and listen to that that gives a good overview

3:01

of the case this is a little bit

3:03

of a deeper peek into just gets disappearance

3:10

i'm doctor lee miller mauser

3:12

criminologist and host of

3:14

murder wasn't the case or

3:16

let some of my guest let

3:18

, go don't call the cops and i said

3:21

i am a cop you're under arrest and i pulled

3:23

off the mask and a slurry told splatters

3:25

of blood in one i looked down and sales

3:28

of nine millimeters the through everything

3:30

that i'm going through i wanna fine my

3:32

daughter be

3:35

the one finds her last words were

3:37

to leave me alone and let me die

3:39

check out murder was the case wherever

3:42

you listen to your podcasts

3:44

you having spent thirty one years of your life

3:47

in prison give you a levels credibility

3:49

caresses thirty one years and eighty five

3:51

six or one of minimize

3:53

some days america's prisons are

3:55

overflowing many to accept i pods

3:58

are just so our mission

3:59

that by incarceration is to shed light

4:02

on a system that viciously targets marginalized

4:04

people to one of his sentence is also

4:07

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4:10

to death by incarceration where ever

4:12

you get your podcast the still pop

4:23

it was my best rand

4:26

air

4:27

he was it a bad situation that

4:29

are geared get out some stay

4:31

here with me

4:33

there that

4:35

you know goes late and him that way go

4:37

issue they go back and

4:40

came here with that nature the

4:42

latest i'm a senior with december twenty

4:45

eight

4:45

a brief back round here jessica

4:47

and her boyfriend juri wayne bag gets

4:50

apparently got into a boat

4:52

a very small boat and put it on

4:54

the little tallahassee river at about six

4:56

am on new year's day

4:59

the boat went down the river a little ways

5:02

and jerry claims that jessica

5:04

jumped out and she has not been seen since

5:07

except some footprints have been seen

5:10

on the shore and some boots were found

5:13

that were apparently jessica's but jessica

5:15

has not been found cathy discusses

5:18

the last time she saw jessica

5:20

he gave up there was a young and allen

5:22

told her she error if

5:24

he ever pull back of the right yours

5:26

it was going to be here to pay you know present

5:29

and beat him baseball bat

5:31

the

5:32

i bought out by living know there was founded

5:34

how be a new she is common in

5:36

the com average around me for his jack

5:39

and only innocent what do you do an easy

5:41

a ride motorcycles with iran

5:43

or know most boring

5:45

damn he go in and our it

5:47

gemma

5:48

okay we're in a mile or so has

5:50

that been he said years so i didn't

5:52

sign this is because co became average

5:54

room and i know

5:56

rogue complete company and you know proceeding

5:59

the don't like me

5:59

even yell at me know what slayer

6:03

hurt somebody

6:05

in they stay here and

6:07

the were play and they

6:10

lived in the got me look

6:12

bad

6:13

thirty minutes later

6:14

the day had run out of gas and

6:16

they was on motorcycle around

6:19

oh wrote yeah a i will ask

6:21

isn't a bit younger long way

6:23

what you

6:24

there's no one is tiny to don't date with or dot

6:26

will look

6:27

they run out of gas from here too

6:29

do you ah bring them

6:31

in forgot why didn't she say she needed

6:33

to march in on it worse it owns a row

6:36

she did some i was going after him

6:38

come out to tell

6:40

smile just gives boyfriend juri windbag

6:42

get

6:43

they'd never modern is never watched

6:45

tried to call me

6:47

earlier that me

6:48

a day

6:51

when they was out there

6:52

you know

6:54

they were right there but he soon as i moved

6:56

out there my sister my mom but

6:58

they wouldn't come up with out do

7:00

you know

7:01

tommy davis and good ole boys when

7:03

we went merryman unlike you better to fight

7:05

this conflict exercise they are you know

7:07

when you're speaking about the police you

7:10

you said that one of the made a comment about

7:12

them being good ole boys what does that mean

7:14

the here tell me i was in the i was

7:16

in his

7:17

he was written any of their skin it

7:20

was to they investors to

7:22

i'm a college math and i am of ran

7:24

i am with me my for a brandy with me

7:27

my friends on he was with me as i did

7:29

was a it

7:30

and we are sitting in his office

7:33

where he said this

7:35

the algo de vito boys as

7:37

well guess what you say discount

7:38

the a director he was saying

7:40

that jerry

7:42

and

7:43

the people that are involved they're just a

7:45

bunch of cowboys yeah

7:48

yeah we had a to you the

7:50

dead

7:51

my name

7:53

with jerry fit physically abusive

7:56

to just

7:56

the here

7:58

yeah

7:59

okay so yeah

7:59

we have to define what good ole boys

8:02

means then because it doesn't mean good person

8:04

they tell me that he did job they

8:06

don't loved her to tears

8:09

that's where the missing the sheriff a space

8:11

your garbage

8:12

what it said in the loop it may

8:14

and i'm only one it goes there them and

8:17

ago new army but most of all the time

8:19

feel and i mean i enjoy yourself

8:21

as in they say a cynic school gate you're

8:23

vegan like six days or so what do

8:26

so

8:26

where did great going to marry a guy

8:29

that's why many bodies he's mine

8:31

were done that you simi valley i'm a mother

8:34

you know

8:35

so are you talking to you know it ain't like

8:37

i was in there were ten people i was in their mama

8:39

sale

8:40

you know he just couldn't tell anybody

8:42

they're returning the

8:44

and here cathy talks about some local stories

8:47

and of rumors and

8:49

she expresses some frustration with law enforcement

8:53

that was a in it

8:55

the ground made with their bloody close

8:57

and and i've got a little

8:59

the out

9:00

not bad

9:01

the an alternate know we have to share them

9:04

to send out read them because it was a lot

9:06

of get lost in the mail

9:08

you know last in every

9:12

you tell me that he didn't reach five hour dominant

9:15

is now and

9:16

and then

9:17

there's his gun and gameplay cake he

9:19

can lobby the

9:21

both

9:22

the more

9:23

you know how about a good

9:26

shot it is still is also an

9:28

aerobics on fab role in

9:30

florida a a few to say

9:33

the new girlfriend the one he was see

9:36

you're so happens

9:38

come up with get

9:40

the

9:41

bloody plows in and they throw them in the garbage

9:44

you know

9:46

don't understand it

9:47

and here cathy discusses were

9:49

some evidence was found and some

9:51

possible footprints that jessica may

9:54

have made and she describes the land

9:59

no

10:01

brave

10:04

lion

10:05

the area here tell me it was a hot

10:07

and club called to hi hat and club

10:10

the us some cameras up the digest

10:13

so haven't got stolen

10:15

you know near cameras up after

10:17

that you still haven't got stolen

10:20

the incredible caught up with a c

10:22

no signs of foul play with they don't get a thing

10:24

or a footbridge nice away

10:26

main footbridge was barefoot it now

10:28

it's just use ssl she was wearing what

10:31

about whatever and finish you say

10:33

she's has been a mistake boat which he

10:36

had a the her purse was in there are only

10:38

keep any other said to her car

10:41

in this bar in a induced oh

10:43

okay a her others mouth

10:46

the dinner moments on but is

10:48

she down at most you were duped that regard

10:51

she she she didn't give him problem for nobody

10:54

you don't do

10:56

the joke about the bathroom whether she'd picked

10:58

up up admits on this phone

11:00

measures here and minutes on his fall but about was

11:02

as good a bar about it ah

11:05

but he was always tic tac an inch

11:07

the video showed her old

11:09

lawyers and she didn't run

11:11

give up my nobody but

11:13

as it

11:14

they didn't have been used for you

11:16

your yet of whom is that

11:18

was the case

11:19

after wouldn't you know kept turbo

11:22

one

11:23

he was there will be are you give your friends

11:26

your home she not crazy even

11:28

if she was our one ever g

11:30

a reason to go years in know river

11:33

the know raging river

11:35

either way up one hundred per day mans

11:37

as she stayed co our time

11:39

and then they say the she jumped at the boat church

11:42

water

11:43

the me a break

11:45

it doesn't seem to make it much

11:47

logical sense so okay

11:49

so the official story that jerry gave police

11:52

and correct me if i'm wrong is that jessica

11:54

gave his friend willie her

11:57

phone so they can i

11:59

guess

11:59

the night after their hunting

12:02

trip but also

12:04

what are you even care because you're

12:06

right now tell me know what what i was

12:08

told by the sign

12:09

okay okay so you know what i'm saying

12:12

has a chef ramsay call me

12:15

the you know he figured that they as why you don't

12:17

call that the i said

12:20

no i com um me with

12:22

you can make a ged want to

12:24

make a run as the now they

12:27

don't come in and touch it was a ten foot

12:29

pole

12:29

have you had said that

12:31

the story was or according to them they said

12:33

that she jumped out of the boat to chase of wild

12:36

hog there was

12:38

a very active in hunting and fishing and had

12:40

she ever express any interest in a lab

12:43

not allow the years you know

12:45

energy clue

12:46

yeah

12:48

read about hurting but if she loved

12:51

please

12:52

he went area not and stuff but

12:54

she was she's not crazy well

12:57

yea no didn't know

12:58

she would understand that that's dangerous

13:00

this was as be a lake in both

13:03

never say about i'm never seen anything

13:05

that show me the two bags finally

13:09

you know what i got out

13:11

though would you one was

13:13

a little

13:14

bagged it had a few fish and losing

13:17

it no matter

13:18

polar kedar corner

13:21

of the phone

13:22

the like that that he wouldn't

13:25

say enough about to begin only

13:27

why would she tell you get the only key and

13:29

her purse with the idea that you

13:31

wouldn't do that

13:32

you said the bow was leaking

13:34

oh my yeah my that's what they told

13:36

me i don't

13:38

new your morning it wouldn't even morning he wouldn't

13:40

even with he was more know

13:42

i didn't even get out of age

13:45

even a will go about my as

13:48

his back tonight ear

13:50

don't encounter plant

13:52

i don't know why get power power

13:54

the a

13:55

how to help

13:57

the lady

13:58

some guys phone as it goes

13:59

it is it as well

14:02

it was my know it is our got

14:04

about noon sunday may

14:07

oh what a hear you don't with our phone

14:11

they were

14:12

they let it will make the when i get done that's

14:14

a good com a comeback pick look

14:17

they were hammered out a common

14:19

they wrote down you know and he felt

14:22

sit down alien noticed that

14:24

toby's okay

14:25

you know last time

14:27

he are still together for as little party

14:29

or whatever

14:30

that them

14:32

maybe sell that night

14:34

the crowd mean whoever it was a huge

14:37

in asia hello as it

14:39

i know right made it back yeah

14:41

now as a where the has yet

14:44

yeah i don't loan able boys

14:46

i'm and used able was and then of lounges

14:48

where his dad yes it look i don't know be enough

14:51

are screaming into the phone

14:52

that's it i don't know you can hear me or not but

14:54

i tell you right now outside my

14:57

son you know up with the missoula

14:59

phone on didn't have that found paints and

15:01

allows invade and i'm on my whether

15:03

to

15:04

okay this is what

15:06

the i cannot okay

15:08

when employment thirty minute not

15:10

even three minutes later

15:12

oh my what a could not get ogre who's

15:14

i had gone on to turn you know the will

15:16

to get the number

15:18

yeah i'm cathy i leave a note and and

15:20

it automatically know when number

15:22

to the place for a fair before

15:24

i can even do that

15:26

i got

15:27

right message

15:29

the bag

15:30

after him

15:32

he said

15:33

kevin rivers your daughter hannah

15:36

the new crowley

15:38

though

15:39

the crowd

15:41

you can reschedule are you worried about

15:43

justice never met this girl didn't know

15:45

this girl and never done this girl

15:48

in this is them club that's

15:50

them grow up at night

15:52

okay

15:54

i'm a day daddy coming he was outraged

15:56

of she said georgia

15:58

american boat

15:59

one on the bow

16:01

and yes good get out boat

16:03

with right she

16:05

rob somebody

16:07

that latter yeah know whatever you

16:10

know when i told us it on a dare to kill my

16:12

daughter as an anti right now

16:14

as an uncanny mulhauser

16:16

the actor

16:18

i'm going to look for the number year

16:20

while get the number you gave me

16:22

that she just oh some i prefer

16:24

to wait we got some might be thrilled

16:27

the i'm i'm automatically turn causes girls

16:29

novabay that forty two more than

16:31

it was yeah right to the year

16:34

oh my

16:36

remember getting worse yet today

16:39

no i was she's worn if you knew some my

16:41

name's sam without some my name's sam

16:43

about the lookout known about an exam i

16:46

knew her know by night sam you know

16:48

lodged automatic yeah just one

16:50

time and to all the certain

16:52

there has been reported just amazing

16:55

at can pay him but she has boasts that

16:57

cause got in his boat got bored miles

16:59

down the river raging river

17:01

what you want a duty to be good

17:03

my well my cousin the rivers

17:05

don't really says you know i'm science in

17:07

about would know motorola

17:09

damn boat

17:10

though

17:11

one bridge to the early

17:13

more mouths within get the location

17:15

of

17:16

the rivers was the guy really fan so

17:18

it wanted to come no time

17:21

one breached the other day

17:23

festivities vote and at day like

17:25

that morning counterpart

17:28

day and and that's when i said it's you get

17:30

on a bow

17:31

you know that that was the time is get

17:33

a boat it can't ale

17:36

there might be at report her missing

17:38

the

17:40

the bay area

17:41

then i knew it at seven pm

17:44

the make anything else

17:47

that is

17:48

oh shit

17:50

his his his cock oh

17:52

crap your

17:54

name of those like our

17:57

you know

17:58

the nano the done

17:59

cowan guess this mono messenger

18:03

talking to somebody on her facebook messenger

18:05

because i'm in her again that

18:07

know it up some i for

18:09

like two minutes member minutes and

18:11

then her last message through does go

18:14

just as well was the

18:17

just gave a combat where yeah well as

18:19

and first message was he though day

18:21

on vote this morning

18:24

well i find that message has automatic

18:26

there were no really you

18:28

don't want your own brother not believe they it

18:30

was her brother the end get bumped and then it

18:33

was told that he wasn't like so instead they

18:35

have the power

18:36

and here's an unconfirmed rumor

18:39

names are omit

18:40

and he was saying coming in walmart

18:43

that

18:43

night and bud brown

18:45

can

18:46

of spray paint right

18:48

check

18:49

that buddha self-checking

18:50

and

18:52

then they that earlier

18:53

that day

18:55

they want to the tractor supply

18:57

company and and

18:59

the

19:00

fab yeah will go

19:02

blue greek five gallon drum

19:04

regular bucks bye bye bye bye job

19:07

the camouflage i

19:09

don't know i know

19:13

they did you about low side note the wild hog

19:15

indeed nobody gator michigan giant

19:17

because you what mattered begin with

19:19

i know metro at first i

19:21

be so think it was her is

19:23

i worry if you know

19:26

the in her

19:27

there's not her natural

19:30

okay so you speaking about the surveillance video

19:32

was taken at the gas station here and

19:34

there's a woman in the passenger seat you can out leans

19:37

out a little bit

19:38

yeah

19:39

okay so you don't believe that jessica

19:41

no

19:43

okay

19:45

the never met any

19:49

though

19:50

labour government knows vagaries

19:53

don't

19:54

i don't know

19:56

in our it was fit out them

19:58

out the window

20:00

you know just how the ever to go

20:03

the

20:04

that block in the morning

20:06

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20:32

did you say that i jerry head

20:35

showed up hubbard and scratches

20:37

are all scratched

20:38

that's what his daughter tell me i know i've

20:41

never seen him to this day or even

20:43

top me and he would not call me

20:45

as a woman's in macau not

20:48

just don't go to his house

20:49

well i better

20:51

via his daughter factors

20:53

double met me at though

20:55

his daughter told you that he is she saw

20:57

him right after and he was scratched

20:59

up and did she tell you

21:02

what he said it was the reason for

21:04

these francis

21:05

right

21:07

the motor and about pad went out and

21:10

river was i can still fight the boat was also

21:12

face huge turnout own branch

21:14

is trying to get votes

21:15

the reason he was scratched up if the

21:17

read his story was that the boat was going

21:19

so fast and he was trying to stop it by holding

21:22

onto the branches

21:23

they say is now was

21:24

that shit but she tell me

21:26

okay

21:27

and and the with supposed to be the story

21:29

about what i'd a jessica

21:32

jumped out of the boat

21:34

sheath the wild

21:35

ugh that's what the sheriff tell me

21:37

that your magazine

21:39

right

21:40

that makes no sense you obviously

21:42

will amaze you know

21:44

did you get some st

21:47

you won't run the if you want me other no way

21:50

the recovers radiant damage he

21:52

got slant sooner had

21:54

a main regardless of what she did

21:57

the things you wouldn't even have been on the boat in the first

21:59

place that

21:59

wow mean it was cold

22:02

it was rainy was messy

22:04

i mean i'm sure you're getting

22:06

no matter what this league in a little b c

22:08

and boat this lake you want know motors or nothing

22:11

the main in the darkness

22:13

no like three by known as dynamite is just

22:16

a little bow would not the filming

22:18

this is just nothing

22:20

it's all about did you put in a life

22:23

the ended a time of course

22:25

russia that to be gonna

22:27

write hundred

22:27

yeah it was interesting when we had them

22:30

look this over and recorded

22:33

you know a few weeks ago we were

22:35

talking about the fact that it was new years

22:37

day like early early morning on new

22:39

years day and who would ever plan

22:41

that in yeah like

22:42

and here kept these shares a local

22:45

account of something disturbing

22:47

that she heard in her first

22:49

person account that trying to summon

22:52

the police in new albany the velvet

22:54

there that day was that are openly gay

22:56

kilter out there they

22:58

did it he got he was measured

23:00

you may on fourth and i never know i didn't

23:02

even have a go at all

23:04

maybe you mail january fourth

23:06

and tell me that she the damage done

23:08

to deserve and as she knew that was her

23:11

birthday in her car for a few

23:13

hours there

23:15

american killer

23:17

the last night he remembers and them without

23:19

no money out of around chef

23:21

would never know by whatever god journey best

23:23

game though the streets aging right

23:26

to my prayers

23:28

the new are

23:30

i stopped at the nbs place now tell

23:32

them what was going on with the not here

23:34

they tell me the data doubt do

23:37

that

23:37

the main man and he would tell me for as

23:39

or is probably coddling

23:42

roka com i got to the vehicle the

23:44

an itemized

23:46

what will donate

23:48

monogamous it will is just go out to the address

23:51

cause it does is bobby lord gave me

23:53

your address oversight for coming up front and

23:55

all this stuff that so we just went out the

23:58

address

23:59

we call mammal one that way so

24:02

my would have to polanski so

24:04

daughter

24:05

garner more would you not get out of

24:07

evil because i com os is you're

24:09

not out what as it would amstel though

24:12

i encounter was you acid because

24:14

you know

24:15

a productive curved ones they know

24:17

be found me around will be shit out

24:19

there for hours

24:20

you're a regular those don't do that

24:22

or she should do not get out the bail for

24:25

she was wrong for for sale my

24:27

sister

24:28

okay okay we went out there

24:30

without l'amour after

24:32

a while i was out there

24:34

what it needed him to come out thursday

24:36

and we needed us out there

24:39

the stretcher

24:40

the now one cow

24:42

me are you allowed back down

24:44

the an anonymous is a money out there

24:46

to arrest nasa

24:49

will send somebody name

24:51

no that would vomit

24:54

invited to i'm pulled up and

24:56

the ball up was adamant i found the word

24:59

in we layer muslim him coming

25:01

tell me that of

25:03

return and charlie chan you go

25:05

to me now he sat jan

25:07

get that know but i wish they'd pull his

25:09

phone records it even the sheriff's office phone

25:11

records to see how many times they've tried to

25:13

karmapa

25:14

maybe twice now the nation because

25:17

i was

25:18

around my son the

25:20

top or amazon

25:22

the total that an unlikely

25:24

com might that and now kathy

25:26

this about justice to phones that

25:28

the police currently have and cappy is in

25:30

possession of a third phone of just goes

25:32

here is

25:34

i'm not known his job placements

25:36

dumped the found they found no hearts

25:38

okay my bladder they come would

25:41

one phone that had made his the will again sometime

25:44

on my phone in year market because

25:46

item from the first day if

25:48

we didn't know on on lot of as a little

25:51

the little dot sight job pattern as

25:53

a know i know that's what my son

25:55

does

25:56

they have you taken a result

25:58

is a vc do

25:59

the you only have found

26:01

the

26:02

what i'm a nose nice will bring

26:04

him up there so they can unlock the bones

26:06

of am not bring in missouri

26:09

this great the point

26:10

i'm not your sister small which he knows

26:12

what they looked like malibu

26:14

the can explain i'm not doing

26:16

that i can take a moment you no no

26:18

no no no

26:19

can you say i get worn on my mom

26:21

they could never get around so

26:25

what later they bowed to my house

26:28

an act like i found my

26:30

my christmas tree that like as taking

26:32

mcgruder so damn look at the still it to a business

26:34

people man and a one in a man

26:36

did like

26:37

it found it man tree innocent

26:40

we're from his days if it does massages

26:43

phone

26:44

i got getting the i thought you know

26:46

i'm i've been you know like and that more of

26:48

what storm

26:49

can you unlock it easy

26:51

did you to try and hit it was unlocked

26:54

then i'll think about it easier to come

26:56

out of his bedroom apart redneck any of

26:58

that is monday

27:00

this

27:01

they got nuclear

27:03

the

27:04

later this found that i do

27:06

that of hers was in her car and i don't get

27:08

it to few months later

27:11

they get into her account nice

27:13

when as a nice messages and stuff

27:16

nice house and dumped my was to begin with

27:18

let them out to be shed want to ask

27:20

what do you think about what my daughter

27:23

my guess is wrong

27:25

oh the day of

27:27

the up into some ideas too many minutes

27:30

bet many minutes at are you gonna

27:32

there he surmised know and

27:35

ask about them the jelly get it would

27:37

just go out our own found no i'm saying

27:39

oh baseball

27:41

i copied amount an opinion wallet

27:44

in a long way to look nice

27:46

as you show up in the this nine months ago when

27:48

you get bogged down

27:49

mm

27:51

the

27:52

the who is in possession of the

27:54

phone now

27:56

the poorly

27:57

no get overtones

27:59

the

27:59

that was a one on wasn't a bow and other

28:02

one is really doubt as diet and

28:04

a bow that location them

28:06

and his out of home one of the and

28:08

into over accounts would use

28:10

this phone the visitor

28:13

or it was in her car

28:15

can't you to location say that

28:17

for they get impose on airplane mode

28:20

they i went back into the small just

28:22

few

28:23

that even month ago and i had been it in

28:25

more

28:26

when i turned it on i georgia dog

28:28

was a current it out

28:30

they should i add up that phone

28:33

updated at phone

28:35

and then when i did at it should i do prefer

28:37

her password her

28:39

the email parenting

28:41

and i'd done that the same as not done that

28:44

mama i don't know i don't know how

28:46

i'm messing with demands are met de

28:48

there are located within that a

28:50

big year and and had him written down

28:52

a hundred times you know that automatically

28:54

man

28:56

the thirtieth and a diverse

28:58

get down into

29:00

locations was winter

29:03

we get that poster

29:05

that back to his house

29:07

to this address in hickory flat

29:10

hey there to the thirty first

29:12

and then come back to his head

29:15

okay are automatically rough edges down

29:17

in a got up both in a coma

29:20

go for a minute in our you know

29:23

that on the i don't know how

29:26

there's address just popped up there

29:28

though a countdown for about our

29:31

the way back owner of locusts as don't go

29:33

back to

29:34

the report that

29:36

you know and then

29:38

days after that does need anybody else had another

29:40

one of her device

29:41

but i wrote edges

29:43

they are you

29:44

but i've seen how where they live

29:46

it was on her google account

29:49

her location to location just

29:51

whatever account whatever

29:54

the right you hear me now

29:55

the laser location done as they

29:58

they get him over to close that

29:59

modern about

30:01

the early one them

30:03

the and ran whoever the hail had

30:05

it again i'm on airplane mode

30:08

and i think it's location data the

30:10

grandma lived i love the as the invest

30:12

gator as a why they found on airplane

30:14

mode white eagle rare airplane mode

30:17

and he told me either so nobody

30:19

can go

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in

30:22

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30:25

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30:58

jerry and his stimulus jack

31:01

and jessica's stimulus

31:03

that i was told a and another one phone

31:06

the toward randy

31:08

then i have them

31:10

about oh you know the steelers shapes

31:12

when we first started getting interested

31:15

they were just go on a severe that

31:17

moment man maybe it was taking his

31:19

own things you can cause

31:21

more efficient head cases know

31:23

the supermarket

31:25

tommy

31:29

tommy

31:30

he was that it with a very true

31:32

because of how he died wrestler

31:35

he just outnumber irish

31:37

and i'm ellie get just a seamless to the

31:40

best thing a good news

31:41

tell you to share department

31:43

i hope he cashes you know like that

31:47

the argument

31:49

they said he didn't take up to the

31:51

there's office

31:53

today i want reserves of this is a

31:55

video

31:56

and he took it up there in a share

31:58

open her male right

31:59

the early

32:01

the border checks a year the we got it

32:04

my effect the opening up for male like

32:06

it but the fourteen or archie

32:10

they received it at his ass

32:12

the out know what happened

32:14

love each case the i helped me cassie

32:16

possessed read or you know i'm saying

32:19

the and know it was there as i had bad

32:21

people tell me that it

32:22

they i wanted to backtrack to so while

32:24

i want to backtrack to something that is of it's beginning to

32:26

make sure that i , miss hear

32:28

it did you say that you had or

32:30

you're in possession of a bag

32:32

that has blood the

32:35

including

32:35

it was in a back in a bag

32:38

they explain exactly

32:41

what bag like and i know was ours because

32:43

about it for you know

32:45

like a backpack bag in a nice

32:47

a charitable but it wouldn't checkerboard it was a threat

32:50

that you want little piggies the thing is

32:52

an air hot paint job

32:54

they said it had blown closing it and

32:57

it regards as as a wonder if some

32:59

air eyes are saying was the area

33:01

as a watch or loop leg would i do

33:03

it away it would

33:06

i do various she's a how they kept

33:08

them as they will blue bag benzene

33:10

she did

33:11

i'm trying to get it and i'm a break

33:13

three and she bought it to mean is it not bad

33:15

enough that it here

33:16

inhale

33:18

there sometimes lane only

33:21

there was a marriage in this

33:23

yeah and you also posted

33:25

us a posted some images

33:27

of jessica with

33:30

some apparent abuse

33:33

the

33:34

they have a view of abuse on her face

33:37

the edu and you potent

33:38

we're would harass load your

33:41

for out you know i don't know where yelp wrong

33:43

or yeah liam that is how to inhale here

33:45

you build like almost two hundred degrees outside

33:48

but is it lit literally are he in

33:50

the that aren't be saying that night

33:52

okay

33:54

they've put her own sad the road

33:57

if gonna hate to wow

34:01

yeah now you know zion

34:04

no no no no no longer

34:06

room nurse

34:08

yeah

34:10

was he ever brought up on charges

34:13

of abuse or did with her any

34:15

plan to file charges against

34:18

this domestic abuse

34:20

the

34:24

no

34:24

the in she's she's she's always

34:27

forgave him

34:29

the he'd always aswell never do

34:31

it again them up up up up

34:33

up up

34:34

the he's young and naive and

34:37

the know know what i mean now

34:40

on know where he

34:41

the rare

34:43

herman bay you know

34:45

it was cause the drugs but i mean

34:49

the one raise anyway

34:51

and here kathy let's out some

34:53

emotion

34:55

that i mean it has literally go

34:57

the correct

35:01

during the day that it's with bad i hadn't cried

35:05

i don't like the

35:08

i hate all this hate glad that it's not

35:10

as part of a heightened balls and you know

35:13

and you don't like it cheaper

35:15

seven

35:17

no fair

35:20

no by blaze

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you know

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wow she's

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really

35:28

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35:30

the she will you tell she just does it sometimes

35:33

you just rhonda of you know as a she

35:35

might might run out from the on the

35:37

run out for me

35:39

you never run out me

35:41

and own hand how do that they stayed

35:43

anywhere is taken

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because it was garbage

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the date that day

35:48

yeah

35:50

the older though and you can

35:52

maybe she withdrew the my be some might impede

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Missing is a true crime podcast that tells stories of missing people, homicides, and injustices. Starting in 2015 with the disappearance of Maura Murray, Missing has covered the vanishings of Brianna Maitland, Brandon Lawson, Phoenix Coldon, Trenny Gibson, Daniel Robinson, Jessica Stacks, Erica Franolich, Cieha Taylor, Calvin Johnny Hunt, Abbie Flynn, Tabitha Queen, Raymond Green, Alicia Markovich, Niqui McCown, Samantha Tapp, Archer Ray Johnson, Dale Williams, Morgan Bauer, Pepita Redhair and more mysteries in depth. Due to their close affiliation with the non-profit organization, Private Investigations For the Missing, the team features stories sourced from their case files when appropriate. While Missing primarily focuses on unsolved cases, they also highlight solved murders, doe’s, DNA updates, cold cases and serial killers like Christopher Wilder as a way to explore all the factors. Whether it’s psychological, socioeconomic, or something deeper that plays a part in a person’s disappearance, Missing does not shy away.Missing also has an impressive guest list with names like Jon Ronson, Maggie Freleng, Todd Matthews, Sarah Turney, John Lordan, Danelle Hallan, Julie Murray, James Renner, the Generation Why, Nancy Grace, True Crime Garage, Patrick Hinds, Ellyn Marsh, Jim Clemente, Art Roderick, David & Kristen Mittelman of Othram Labs as well as current law enforcement and licensed private investigators.Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna were also featured in Oxygen's The Disappearance of Maura Murray 6 part documentary.Missing is hosted and produced by Tim Pilleri, Lance Reenstierna and Jennifer Amell of Crawlspace Media.

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