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I just want to start out by thanking
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our fans all across
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the state of Minnesota. Even
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though it was not the year that we thought
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it could be or wanted
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it to be, we
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appreciate the amount
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of support that we get each and every night. You
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know, I believe
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we sold out 39 out
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of 41 home games this year. We
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went down to Arizona twice and took over
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that building a couple of times, which was
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nice. We've always had, we travel well, our
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fans are everywhere, and
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we feel the support. We feel that
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we have the best fans in
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the league and we
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greatly appreciate it and that
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is sincere. I'd
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like to thank all the employees that work
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in the Excel Energy Center on game days, and
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non-game days, and just keeping this place spic
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and span and serving
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our fans beers and popcorn
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and hot dogs and helping
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people find their seats. It's a
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big operation that goes on, and we have just so
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many great people that work around
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this building. We
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just want to make sure that they
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know that we appreciate what they do.
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And lastly, the Minnesota Wild,
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the employees at the Wild. There's
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so much that goes on in operating
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a hockey team. What we
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see on the ice is the final product,
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but there's so much more that goes on in
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it, especially on
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the business side, with selling tickets and PR
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and social media. and selling
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sweets and all that stuff. So
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without the employees of
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the wild on the
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business side, we
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wouldn't be able to operate. So we want
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to say thank you. And I'd
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like to say a personal thank
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you to my hockey operation staff,
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scouts, and
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just everybody that works in
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hockey operations. And everybody
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just works so hard to get this team on
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the ice. I
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just appreciate it. In
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getting to the season, I can honestly say this
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was a crazy one.
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It's disappointing where we are. Not
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making the playoffs is disappointing. This
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was basically a season of inconsistencies. There
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were some really good stretches. There
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were some real tough stretches.
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Our start was slow.
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We were behind the eight ball right away. And
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in this league, that's unforgiving. You
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can't afford to start the way
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we did and expect
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to give yourself the best shot at the playoffs. We
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put ourselves behind the eight ball early. We
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had some good performances by individuals. We
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had some other
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players had tough years. That's
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the way it goes. But
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we couldn't afford it. It
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was an up and down year that way. And
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I also have to look at
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myself in the mirror and what
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could I have done better. You
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know, I feel
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like I could have
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done a better job at insulating
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our team, insulating our top
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players, creating
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more depth within the
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organization. I feel
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that's something that we
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fell short on, you know, and
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that's something I need to get better at. You
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know, it was a tough
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year in a lot of aspects. Making
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a coaching change is
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always very difficult. But
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we had a good run with Dean. I appreciate
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everything he did. But
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when we made the change, it gave me the
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opportunity to reconnect with John, who
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I have a strong relationship with and a
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long history with. And he's
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somebody I really believe in. I think our players excelled
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under him. Krell
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scored 40 goals while John
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was here. Matt Boldy scored 27, 28. Oh,
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no. Yeah. Under
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John, under John. Sarah. Yeah.
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Yeah. One.
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One. One. Anyway. Mute.
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Yeah. Next topic. You
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know, and just touching on a few. Look,
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there's a long season. There's 82 games.
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There's a lot ups and downs, even if you
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have a great season. We
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did add some great efforts, like I said.
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We had some good runs when John first came in.
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We slid a little bit, but then we got
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back on our horse and played well. I will
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give this team credit. These
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players never quit until
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they heard they
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were mathematically. eliminate until it said you're
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limited. Our team did not stop playing and
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I respect that. I have
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a lot of respect in
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that and I yeah I
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was proud of that that
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they never stopped and you
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know it's
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it's it
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was nice to see that they didn't have any
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quit in them and you know
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and there was some there were some good there
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were some good individual seasons as well I
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know there was some good we have some good
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players that just didn't have great seasons but
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we've seen great seasons in them before and we're
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expecting them to be better next year and
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that again that that happens that's
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part of the human
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element of the game guys aren't
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robots but
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you know if you if you go through like it
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we had the you know Brock
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Faber had a great year he he
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has emerged as you know a
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top pairing defenseman he was our top defenseman this
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year so
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you know that that is that is
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an unbelievable unbelievably
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good thing for our organization going
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forward like I
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said map all the ad an incredible second half I
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think the potential is there for Matt to be a
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star in this week Eric
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Sinek had another incredible year of just
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solid two-way hockey and I think
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I think every player that plays against him gets mad
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at him at least once as
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they play and he's just so effective and
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and 30 goals while
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he's doing all that like
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I said Correll had 40 goals under
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John's tenure so far and and put
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together a 96 point season even
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though his first half didn't go that great he battled back
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and I think he really just tried to put the team
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on his back coming
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down the stretch And that
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is just such a luxury for us to have a
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talented player that competes like that. Marco
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Rossi, you know, a year ago,
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I don't think we'd be saying that he'd have 21 goals. 21,
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right? Yeah. I
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mean, he put the work in last summer. He improved
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himself, you know,
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off the ice or his habits changed his way
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of doing things and it paid off for him.
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So that was great.
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You know, our scouting department, our
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pro scouts identified
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Declan Chisholm as somebody who we should grab
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off of waivers. And you
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know what, it looks like this kid's going to be a pretty good
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player. He didn't
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get to play a lot of hockey the first half, but he
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was pretty impressive when he got in there. And we're
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looking forward to seeing what he can do in
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the future. And
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like, as for new faces,
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to get Murat, who's a Dean off over
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here from Russia finally, I
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think he did a good job. I think he's kind of
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feeling his way around the league. You
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know, coming over to North America for the first
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time, getting
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acclimated to a new country, just
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a new way of life, a new league, I
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think he did a good job. And
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I'll be excited to see him when he's a
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little more familiar with everything going on. It
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was great to see Liam Ogren get
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his first couple of games. I
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know John likes him. I think he handled himself
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real well. It's good to see him get a
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couple points, his first NHL goal. And
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it was great to see Jesper Walsett
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get back in the net and
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get a couple of wins under his belt. Like
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I said, 82 games, you
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know, make the playoffs, don't make the playoffs. There's always a
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lot of ups and downs. There's
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always some negatives and there's always some positives. and
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we've got to look at everything and
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assess everything that's going on here
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in order to get better. And
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that's what our offseason is all
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about, is getting better. And that's
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going to be our goal. Bill,
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you know... We'll get over the hump eventually. We'll
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recreate our young... We didn't even get to the
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hump this year. Exactly. So,
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you know, the one thing you didn't say there, I
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don't think you used the word injuries once, and talking
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to the players today, the gist of it is that
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there are no excuses. They were pretty
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honest on how they became
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a, you know, mentally fragile team this year,
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that they, you know, some of them said they
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are not a hard team to play against anymore,
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that there's a woe is me attitude during games.
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As a former player, how do you explain that
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and how... Like, this is
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a stark contrast to the team that scored 26
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on 5 goals a couple years ago, that never
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had that attitude. So how do
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you get back to being a hard, hard
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team again? Well,
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that's a... You know, I
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think that's interesting to hear that from the players, and
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I'm happy to hear that because there are no excuses. I
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don't... The injuries...
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Yeah, the fact of the matter, there were injuries, but
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that's not the reason we didn't make the
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playoffs, I believe. It's
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a contributing factor to... But
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it's not the big... It's not
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the big reason. When
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I hear that our players say
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that we were mentally fragile, I'd
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agree with them. And
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when they... If they said
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that they
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weren't competitive enough in the big games, I think that's what
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you said, I would agree.
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And the guys have...
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We have to find out. We have to find
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our swagger again. And
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when you talk about those six on five goals and stuff like
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that, we had swagger, we had
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confidence, we had a
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lot of FU in our game. And we need
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to find it. And we didn't have it this year.
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And that's... In
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my mind, you have to
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be a playoff team, to be a championship
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team, you have to have that confidence
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and that swagger and that
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resiliency to be able to overcome things
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like injuries. Bill,
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you played in the league for a long time. How do you get
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it back as a player when you lose it, when you lose a
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resilience, when you lose a swagger, when you... You
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mentioned mentally fragile and that kind of thing. How do
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you get it back? Well, to be
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honest with you, I think
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sometimes the break is good. Like I
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said, it was a crazy year. I
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think sometimes you just need a mental
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reset. I
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think... I
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think the coach and the coaching staff has a
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lot to do with that and having the players...
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John and I have talked a lot about like, it'll be
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exciting to get to training camp, get
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everybody on the same page, start
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building from scratch. And
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like you saw when John first got here, the
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team did play with swagger. We were going. And
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just be able to build more off of that.
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And I know he's got a lot more in
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his... You know, a lot more in your bag of tricks,
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right? I hope so. You
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better. But it's
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just building back, building
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that back and confidence
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is tough to gain and
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easy to lose. And
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sometimes it can take a long time to
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build it back up. But when you're doing
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the right things, when you're in shape, when
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you train properly, when you're fresh and
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you compete and you do all the right things, things
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it will come back and
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I expect it to. I
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really do. You
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try to bring in any players
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that can enhance that swagger by
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getting bigger, stronger, tougher and what
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other areas would you like to see or do you
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feel need to change to become a playoff team? Bigger,
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stronger, faster, those
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are those are all nice ingredients in a
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player. They really are and I think we
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could use that. To
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me too the compete
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is our
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compete night in and night out has
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to get better and
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I think when we had
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100-point seasons it was each
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and every night it was it was
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relentless and we have to
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get back to that. Bill, what
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are some of your top priorities heading into this
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offseason? Is it kind of evaluating what's here, what
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pieces you can add or where does what does
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that list start with for you? Yeah,
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I mean we'll look
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at our salary cap situation see what our
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options are but to me upfront is going
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to be one
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of our main
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objectives to improve the forward group
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and like I said earlier like one of my
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I think what I missed on this year was
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the depth and we need
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to create better depth in the organization to you
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know to help insulate the other guys and
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whether whether those players are in the
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NHL or in Iowa to start or
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wherever it's we have to be
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better. Do you feel like you
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don't know the cap yet? I assume it's going to
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go up a little bit the salary cap. Do
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you feel like you will have more maybe more
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tools that your more options at your disposal than
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you did last summer? I
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do. I mean, obviously if
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the cap goes up, we'll have more
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money. I know everybody else will too, but we
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could really use it. So, like
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I said, we'll do what we can. You know what?
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We'll look at every possible option
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that we have, whether that's free agency, trades,
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anything we can do to improve the team. And
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again, we're starting
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to see, I think
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some of the patience pay off when you see
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some of these younger players getting into
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the mix. So we
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want to continue that as well. But look, if there's
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an opportunity to improve our team right away, we'll do
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it. This is probably a
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stupid question, so forgive me. But
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if you get some cap space, I didn't
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have any options last year, but do you want
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to assume with a little bit of, like, if you
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try to build a cushion in there, does that matter
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too much to you guys to really have a
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zero cap? That is a stupid, not sure. No.
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Yeah, I always like to leave a little bit of
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cushion. I
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don't love just going right to it, and
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then you
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have to leave room for injuries
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and call-ups and things like that. So a
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little bit of cushion is preferred.
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For both Bill and John, I understand
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that the importance is on trying to
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win as quickly as possible. But with
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the kids who are now starting to
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develop, you got some late looks. How
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important is this next season
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two to sort of transitioning
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with those guys, where veterans
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obviously can help, but
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you've got a chance to come out of the
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cap purgatory in really good shape as far as
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talent goes. How do you
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weigh that with trying to win now
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when the future could be really bright
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in developing guys over in Marat?
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Go down that list. I
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think I understand your question. We
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want to win now. What
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we want from our younger players is
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to push to
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make our lineup, to push, you
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know what, push the older players,
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get some internal competition. You
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know what, if one of our
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younger players can push out an older player and take
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his spot in the
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lap because he's better, then do it. You know,
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if you can jump up on the second line and put
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our second line guy down on the third or fourth, then
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do it. That's what
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we want. We want the internal competition.
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That's what drives great teams and great
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players. You
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can't wait around and wait
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for a spot to open up and us to put
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you in there. No, take it. And you know what,
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and I hope the older players get scared that somebody's
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going to take their job and that scares them into
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playing better because it
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happens. It's
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a cycle. You know, when
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you're young, you're
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so scared, you just want to
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play and you have to
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survive every single day in the lineup. Through
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your career, there might be a little comfort zone where you're
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in the lineup every day and this and
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that, but then all of a sudden you're an older player
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and then there's younger players coming and if you're not scared,
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you're stupid because they're going to take
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your job. I think
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that's healthy and that's what we want. All
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right, my turn. No,
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I, you know, what Billy
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just said is a reality. I think
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in the salary cap era, I think
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in all teams, you need to have
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young players be able to come
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up through your system and then you need them to
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make impacts on
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the NHL lineup. I think it was really
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good that what Walset went through this year,
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you know, obviously had a tough game and the first
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opportunity to go back down to Iowa, on his
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game and then was able to come up and have
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some success here and play well. And he
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looked like a different goalie, just
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much more confident. A lot of times it's different
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to come right up into this league and make
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a strong impact, particularly at the goaltending position. You
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look at Marat came in and he
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got a really good feel like the exit meeting
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with him is the first thing
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out of his mouth was how fast the league
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is and how much skating it is and
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things that he wants to work on this summer. Liam
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came in and got a quality opportunity.
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Now with that being said, you can't force
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younger players onto your team, that
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if they're not ready. Part of their development
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is when they're ready to make an impact,
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when they're ready to take someone's job. Sometimes
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they get a couple different looks and then they
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develop and then they're ready to make an impact
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on it. But to have young, you need younger
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guys to be able to come in and make
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impacts. We have several
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good players right now that we're
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excited about. Obviously they've been with the team a
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little bit, there's more guys coming. But
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I think as Billy said, internal
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competition is a reality. And lots of
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times even if you have veteran players, when you
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have younger guys on your team, there's a different
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energy too about your team. They're
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hungry, they're eager to learn. They
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push certain areas of
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the game, they push certain players. So
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the good thing is we know that they're coming.
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And I think the smart thing is now what's
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the right timing and how do you do that?
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And when they're ready, they're
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gonna be ready. And you wanna make sure that
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you don't force them in when they're not ready,
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because that could stall their development. John,
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obviously you had like 60 games to get to
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know these guys. You've had individual meetings of course of the season
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too. So I'm sure you felt comfortable maybe doing some tough love
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with exit meetings. What was your general message to some of these
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guys? And did you feel, what was your feeling from the guys
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coming back to you as far as their
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accountability or kind of honesty and kind of that response
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there? Yeah, every player
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is different. I think in
21:57
these times it's not, a
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tough love, I think it's
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building relationship through honesty and
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knowing that you're all in it together. That
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it's not, you know, you
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can't fix what happened this year
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with particular guys but, or
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the team in general. I would say the
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guys are disappointed. They're disappointed in how the
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season went. Certainly disappointed in not being
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able to make the playoffs. I
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liked a lot of their responses. I think
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as Mike said or someone said that, you
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know, there weren't excuses. It was things
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that we could have controlled collectively
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as a group or individuals that we didn't do
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a good enough job of that. So that's encouraging
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to me. I think
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individually with players we had, it
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was, there were good meetings. There
22:46
was honest feedback, honest communication. There
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was plans for them moving forward, you know,
22:51
check-ins in the summer. I
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thought the feedback on the team in general was
22:56
very good but I give the guys credit today
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that we wanted to make this day productive and
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spend quality time with them
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and have some honest conversations. But to
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me it's not about reading the riot
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act. It's understanding what we need
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to do to get better collectively, individually.
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And then the next part is we want to
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follow up. You know, it's one thing
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you can have these meetings and then you don't talk again.
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But continuing to build
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the relationships, the accountability, even
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throughout the off-season is important to make sure
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that we are all back together on the
23:28
same page better individually which then
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will make us better collectively when we get
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into training camp. Bill,
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it sounds like, you know, there is urgency just
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not to get through next season and
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get to summer 2025. How
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realistic is that though? How
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is this season not just a preview of
23:46
next season with the restraints that you dealt
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with and the injury and the
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depth that was exposed? How do
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you make this not just be the norm for
23:55
another year and then you get your, you
23:57
know, all the restraints come off the
23:59
next summer? Because I don't operate like that. Just
24:02
wait it out. He
24:05
doesn't operate like that. I know that. We're
24:08
not just going to wait. Can
24:15
do a lot. Can get involved in
24:18
free agency. We can make trades.
24:21
I'm sure some of our players are not going to
24:24
have the seasons that they had this year. Our
24:28
special teams need to improve. There's
24:34
a lot we can improve on. And
24:37
with that will come, I think,
24:39
better success than we had this year. It's
24:43
not just trades
24:45
and free agencies and this and that. There's
24:47
a lot that we have to work on.
24:52
I mean, I think you see the same way,
24:54
right? Yeah, I mean, I
24:56
think you have to be able to control the controllables of
24:59
it. There's certain things
25:01
that you can do in the off season
25:03
from management coaching perspective, whether
25:05
that's free agency or trades. Those
25:07
are always on the table every year. But
25:11
I think it goes back to what I
25:13
just talked about with Joe was how
25:16
do we help the players improve? How do we
25:18
get the culture to go
25:20
to where we wanted to get to,
25:22
individual performances to be better, the team
25:25
collectively better
25:28
in certain areas. We talk about being
25:31
a mentally fragile group. These
25:33
are all things that are real. But they're
25:35
things. That's what coaching and playing is about,
25:38
is you got to find internal solutions. And
25:40
certainly this year was a lot of different adversity
25:44
for whether we had cap limits or
25:46
not or the injuries. We
25:49
were there lots of times coming down the stretch.
25:51
Now we didn't win the games that we needed
25:53
to win. So there's valuable lessons in that. And
25:55
I think you want to take those collectively, individually
25:58
to the players and the team. and now
26:00
we've got to work to get better. With
26:02
all that being said, these guys pushed it
26:06
pretty far for some of the circumstances
26:08
that we were under, but
26:10
now I'm excited because I
26:13
think there's lots of rooms for improvement
26:16
and those things are controllable. Bill,
26:19
I remember we were
26:22
all talking to Craig Leopold before the year and
26:24
he brought up Karel Kaprizov and how important he
26:26
is to this organization, but only if he's here
26:28
was the quote and he basically said
26:30
he'd be lying if it's not on
26:32
all of your minds on how to really make him
26:35
happy in the next couple years so he's going to
26:37
sign on the data line. How
26:39
much is that on your mind right now that
26:41
really these next couple years you've got to not
26:43
just win but show him that the
26:46
future of this team is bright so when
26:48
you can sign into extension as early as
26:50
next summer that gets done? Yeah, that's what
26:52
I love about him is that he wants
26:54
to win and I do. When you have
26:56
star players I think you have to show
27:01
them how committed you are as well and
27:03
that doesn't always mean in their
27:07
personal situation,
27:10
their contract or their stats or whatever.
27:12
It's about the team, it's about surrounding.
27:14
Karel wants to win. I know that
27:17
and yeah I
27:20
do feel that we need to show
27:22
him that we're committed to winning. I
27:26
know he likes it here, I know he's
27:30
enjoyed playing here, I know
27:32
he's had success playing here
27:34
but you know we
27:36
can get better and I think
27:38
we can continue
27:40
to surround him with, you know keep building
27:42
to surround him with a better team. Bill
27:46
you had mentioned a couple days ago that you
27:48
were not quite disappointed but not
27:50
thrilled with the way that the defense has played
27:53
in front of your goaltending and that was
27:55
kind of a part of it. No, the
27:57
team. The team, okay. How are you going
27:59
to Address that aspect defensively, you
28:01
know big emphasis on getting some of those
28:03
guys to be more expensive. But no, I I
28:07
I think we're talking about gold tending and Yes,
28:12
you can look at gold tending numbers and you
28:14
know say this guy was good that guy was
28:16
good this is
28:18
my opinion and The
28:23
The better we are in front
28:25
of the goalies the better they're gonna play Whether
28:28
or not gonna have to we're not gonna have to rely
28:30
on them to make you know a number
28:32
of great a You know Saves
28:35
every single game we have to we have
28:37
to protect them better than we
28:40
did this year. We have to Part
28:43
of that is being a better offensive team being
28:45
a better puck possession team in the offensive zone
28:48
Not putting so much pressure on them coming out
28:50
of coming out of our end easier Although
28:54
all those things that that him and I talked about
28:56
I think that was probably the first thing that we
28:58
talked about was coming out of D zone When
29:00
John first got here and you could see it right away,
29:03
but it's things like that not spending time in the D
29:05
zone Well, I
29:07
guarantee you if we do those things better.
29:09
We'll have better goaltending Because
29:11
they're the same guys They're
29:14
capable of it, you know, and I think
29:16
you saw like, you know coming down
29:18
the stretch I think Gus played really well like
29:20
his last handful of games and I think that
29:22
was more of what His
29:26
talent level brings, you know and flower, you
29:28
know same Was
29:30
your message to Gus and he kind of
29:32
addressed it speaking with us who was to
29:35
focus on that fitness aspect? I didn't talk
29:37
to him. He did Yeah,
29:39
we had it. Yeah Gus Gus is uh It's
29:43
a lot for him, you know Coming
29:45
into this year and you know
29:47
the expectations of transitioning, you
29:49
know from You
29:52
know being a support guy to being
29:54
the guy or supposed to be the guy and Fitness
29:58
level some of his practice practice
30:00
habits, some of the things that he needs to. I think
30:02
he was very, he was really well
30:05
thought out in his meeting. I think he
30:07
recognizes some
30:09
things that need to improve. There's a clear plan
30:11
in place for him. We'll
30:15
stay connected on it this summer, whether it's
30:17
myself or Freddie with him.
30:19
And you know, sometimes a
30:22
tougher year or you learn those lessons of maybe you
30:24
could get away with certain things before and then when
30:26
you go in a situation where it doesn't, I think
30:29
sometimes it ignites or ignites
30:32
someone just to realize that there needs to
30:34
be a certain improvement. And he's a
30:36
very talented guy and I think the big thing a lot
30:38
of players have to learn is, a
30:40
lot of them are here because of talent, but then how do you
30:42
take that talent and make it, you know,
30:45
excellent or elite. A lot of times it's
30:48
all the things surrounding the game. It's, you
30:50
know, your mental toughness, it's your mental mind
30:52
state, it's your fitness, it's how you practice,
30:55
it's how you prepare, you know, and sometimes
30:57
guys need to learn that they need to
30:59
take it to another level to maximize their
31:01
talent. And that's encouraging
31:04
to us that
31:06
Gus is in that place. John,
31:09
congratulations on today's news from USA Hockey. I just
31:11
wanted to ask how that came about, you know,
31:13
what you've learned from your previous go-arounds
31:15
in the World Championships and just kind
31:18
of what's your level of excitement to
31:20
get this opportunity? Yeah, thanks. I mean,
31:22
it's a great opportunity, you know, to
31:25
be able to represent your country and the Men's
31:28
World Championships is, you know, a
31:30
big stage and, you know,
31:32
I talked a little bit about it with
31:34
Billy and Brett Peterson and John Van Biesberg
31:36
just about the opportunity and the team and
31:39
it was really, it was, it's exciting. I
31:42
think the team is going to be a
31:44
motivated group. I think there's a lot of
31:46
NHL players going, a lot
31:48
of, you know, pretty prominent NHL players
31:50
that are gonna go that
31:52
either haven't had success or not in the playoffs
31:54
and I think that that's
31:57
really important. Obviously, you have the four nations
31:59
in the Olympics. you know, on
32:01
the forefront coming in after that where, you know,
32:04
I think players feel like if they go
32:06
they give themselves the best opportunity on the international stage
32:08
to show what they can do wearing
32:10
the USA jersey. I think
32:12
there's lots of players on the team that are looking to
32:14
play in meaningful games and show
32:16
what they can do and show guys like Billy
32:18
and you know his Olympic management group that
32:21
these guys are committed. It's a
32:23
sacrifice to go but
32:26
also that they can play winning hockey. They
32:28
can play their best when the stakes are
32:30
the highest and that's I'm excited for that
32:32
even as a coach, you know,
32:34
it gives you another opportunity to test yourself.
32:36
You're with different players, different coaches, you're going
32:39
to be in high stakes games. All
32:42
those things you're going to work with other
32:44
coaches, other general managers and all my experiences.
32:47
I've been lucky enough to
32:49
do a lot of them with USA hockey. I've always
32:51
become a better coach. You
32:53
get different ideas, you get challenged in different
32:55
ways but to me we're not in
32:57
the playoffs either this year. Like I want to play
32:59
in meaningful games and coach in meaningful games and coach
33:01
under pressure and try to get
33:03
a team to win a championship. So I couldn't
33:06
be more excited and honored to go. Billy,
33:10
just you know penalty kill killed you this year
33:13
and how do you fix that
33:16
if especially if the personnel is largely
33:19
the same? Obviously we've talked to John a lot
33:21
about you know training camp and how important that
33:23
will be to get the details. Do you
33:25
feel like that you're going
33:27
to have to really look at the personnel that you have in place?
33:30
I've killed like five penalties in my
33:32
life. Some
33:36
of it could be personnel. I really do
33:38
think that's a better question for John. You
33:41
think training
33:43
camp is where you can really hammer
33:45
it in? I do. I think
33:48
it's always
33:50
a multitude of factors when something struggles.
33:54
Can we coach the details of it better? It's got
33:56
to be better. It starts there. personnel
34:03
wise, we
34:06
have to look at that. Are
34:09
the details on the penalty kill good enough? Is
34:12
our goal tending good enough in those situations?
34:14
It's something that all
34:16
those things you continue to look at. I
34:19
will say this, the penalty kill is a
34:22
harder thing to adjust a lot in
34:25
season because the power plays are so good
34:28
and there's different dynamics to it where
34:30
there's not a lot of practice time, it's got to be a
34:32
lot of video time. I always think
34:34
when you go through every season, there's
34:38
always parts of your game that struggle.
34:40
I think it's your job and you
34:42
try to fix it and you try
34:44
to do the right things in season
34:46
to get it there, but
34:48
that's something where you have to spend
34:50
time on. Sometimes
34:53
it also comes through, it's struggled
34:55
all year and sometimes
34:57
when it comes back to that confidence factor, sometimes
35:01
when you get off to a bad start
35:03
or there's an area that struggles, it doesn't
35:05
just change overnight. You work at it and
35:07
you have some success with it. Sometimes
35:09
it struggles again. It does
35:11
take time to be able to get that
35:15
back and that's something that you're
35:18
going to look at. I also think there's different trends on
35:20
power plays now that change
35:23
every year. I think we've got to start the season
35:25
ahead of the curve. That's
35:27
a big one too, is really studying the
35:29
power play. It's not just the penalty kill
35:31
guy. I think it's working in combination of
35:34
how you kill certain things, how
35:37
you kill certain rotations and then
35:39
really hammering that in training camp
35:42
where you can spend time. You can practice it
35:44
live. It's intense. You can make
35:46
mistakes in exhibition games. You can see if this
35:48
works or that doesn't work. When you're trying to
35:50
make adjustments in some of those
35:52
situations in season, the bullets are flying. It's harder
35:54
but that's something we all got to be better
35:57
at. Billy, your staff, your
35:59
front office. what's your timeline on
36:01
filling the rest of that out and
36:04
injuries, any off-season surgeries
36:07
coming up for anybody? I'll
36:10
have some front office announcements
36:15
probably I'm thinking
36:17
mid-may, not
36:21
till then and surgeries we have
36:23
medicals tomorrow I don't foresee any
36:26
off the top of my head we'll
36:28
see what we'll see what comes of the
36:30
medicals tomorrow. Bill
36:32
gave me updates on who's going to world so you
36:34
have an idea of who all is going or not
36:36
going? No. Yeah you mentioned getting
36:39
better depth in the organization not just here in Iowa
36:41
what's your view of Iowa season and what
36:43
you have there and I know how what can you
36:45
do to better support I guess what there is. I
36:48
thought
36:53
Brett did a great job a
36:57
challenging year but
37:00
I do feel that that the
37:03
coaches did a good job
37:05
with a very difficult situation the
37:08
players always play hard I mean
37:10
they're those guys down there they just
37:13
battle it's a tough tough league and
37:15
they're all just trying to play
37:17
their hardest and can get to the next level but
37:21
when you have situation like we had this
37:23
year when we just
37:26
we just took their players it's
37:28
it can get
37:31
tough and you
37:33
know John and I went through that and Wilkes-Barre he used
37:35
to never complain about it though. Short
37:40
memory this guy. But
37:43
it can be tough but it can be
37:46
tough but I do think they did a very good
37:48
job you know we've like
37:51
I said we've had a number of young players come
37:53
up to play games for us and
37:55
contribute and then It's
38:00
it's because of what they do down
38:02
there. That's their that's their main objective
38:04
is to get players ready for us
38:08
This is kind of for both of you But Billy
38:10
if you want to start you had mentioned the need
38:12
for depth and secondary scoring a little bit Marcus
38:15
Johansson and Freddy Goudreau are two big pieces
38:17
of that How do you evaluate their seasons
38:19
and what do their futures look like moving forward
38:21
here? Well, they're under
38:23
contract. So they're their futures are
38:25
with us I Feel
38:30
like Freddy it seemed
38:32
to be a really tough year just because Injury
38:37
right off the bat. I think he I think it
38:39
was in Toronto. He got hit by Revo and That
38:43
just kind of started it and if you get sometimes
38:45
if you get hurt early on in the year like that
38:47
and I know He
38:49
came back and re-injured it. It's just it's a
38:52
terrible cycle to get in So I don't feel
38:54
like he really had the
38:56
chance to to catch up Jojo
39:00
had a year that that
39:07
I'll put it this way. Jojo has
39:09
so much talent that he
39:12
He always leaves you wanting more or he did
39:15
this year I
39:18
think the world of him and his his
39:20
ability to skate and Transfer
39:23
the puck and his patience
39:25
with it Is
39:29
is so good We
39:32
will I'm
39:35
almost shocked that he doesn't or didn't
39:37
produce more than he did this year. I
39:41
Would love for him to come back
39:43
and and regain the form that that
39:45
he had when he first came back
39:47
to us because he was unbelievable and
39:52
You know, he has that capability but
39:56
Yeah, that's what I expect and I expect ready to
39:59
bounce back You know, they're
40:01
both guys that love the game and they
40:04
nobody likes to have a Subpar
40:07
season, you know and As
40:13
much as you guys want to write about it or I
40:16
want to Say
40:19
things about it or John does or whatever.
40:21
Nobody wears it more than the player They
40:25
take it home they keeps them
40:27
up it Nobody
40:31
It's heaviest on the players shoulder.
40:34
So they don't Like I
40:36
think John made a really good point like these these
40:38
meetings and getting together at the end of the year
40:40
This is not to beat guys up. This is to
40:42
support guys just Figure out
40:45
how do we how do we help them get better? How
40:47
do we get them over these humps and and move
40:49
on from it? What's done is done this year's over You
40:52
know, we got it. We have to move on and help guys get
40:54
better build it potentially Making
40:57
some moves coming up What
41:00
is your thought process on going
41:02
to guys with no moves and no
41:04
trades if there is an opportunity to
41:07
move them and? How
41:10
that conversation transpires just because they do
41:12
have a certain amount of protection then
41:15
Yeah I
41:18
get it. I Don't
41:21
love dealing in what if so I'm
41:24
not I'm not going to anybody right now if I have
41:26
if I ever have to I would
41:28
but not right now Hey,
41:31
Bill, you started by joking about the hump and getting over
41:33
it My
41:36
cuz Mike didn't have the guts to say What
41:39
do you when you looked at what your young
41:41
core did? Does that kind of reaffirm in your
41:43
mind the plan that you have and that you'll
41:45
have an answer that yeah Yeah, I mean it
41:48
gives you hope it gives you that like
41:50
I said That's one of those positive things
41:52
during the season that that you have You
41:56
always go to the negative right you
41:59
have to go to the positives too. You
42:01
have to give the guys credit where credit's
42:03
due and like it's not... Look
42:08
I'm disappointed. John's disappointed. The players
42:10
are disappointed. Like nobody's happy with
42:12
the way this year went but
42:14
like we have to
42:17
look at some of the things that did go
42:19
on that were good
42:22
and some of these young players that really took
42:24
a big step is
42:26
a positive and we
42:29
have to be encouraged
42:32
by that. Yeah I am.
42:34
I'm very encouraged by it and I... You know
42:37
what? Marco Rossi a year ago we didn't know what
42:39
was gonna happen right? Like we're... He's
42:41
gonna stay in Minnesota. How's that gonna work? What's he
42:44
gonna be like? He had a pretty good year. You
42:48
know 20 goal score. Like that's a
42:50
lot in this league now and
42:53
you know for everything he's been through that's great.
42:55
You know Matt keeps emerging. He keeps... We got
42:57
to keep working with Bolts to get him to
43:00
keep developing him into into what he really
43:02
can be. You know faves as good
43:04
as the season he had. He's got
43:06
to come back next year and
43:09
and and do it again and like but
43:11
but man what a great first year. Like
43:16
I went through it with all the other young guys.
43:18
Like there's there's some good pieces. Yeah
43:27
sure as hell hope so. Mike
43:29
keeps bringing it up. Yeah it
43:31
is a thing and you
43:38
know we talked about this last
43:40
year and the hump and
43:42
getting over and getting past the first round
43:44
and this and that. I
43:47
don't know. Look I haven't been here for 25 years.
43:49
I haven't been here. I'm not I'm not
43:51
as crazy about it as you
43:54
guys are because I haven't gone through it. I'm
43:57
I'm doing what I feel is right as a
43:59
general manager. in building a team,
44:01
building a team that is going to be
44:04
built for long-term success. I don't, I could
44:06
care less what's happened in the past here.
44:09
I wasn't here. These players, most of these
44:11
players weren't here. We don't care. We
44:14
don't care. It's all about moving forward.
44:19
John, do you expect everyone back on the
44:21
coaching staff? Yeah,
44:24
we always go through, you know, coming in,
44:27
we worked really, really well together. I think everyone
44:29
does a good job. They
44:32
were helpful to me. You
44:34
know, sometimes you go through with different guys too. We'll
44:38
have meetings with those guys. And, you know, from
44:40
my perspective, it's always seen how they feel. You
44:42
know, you always think it's coming from your side,
44:44
but maybe a guy wants
44:46
a head coaching position. Maybe someone wants,
44:49
so I haven't had those discussions with
44:51
them, but I
44:53
think every one of them, we have a great
44:56
relationship, good working environment. Everybody's worked
44:58
hard, and I thank them for everything
45:00
we went through, and then we'll, you know,
45:02
move forward and see how everybody feels. Bill,
45:05
Brock mentioned not going to the world. What
45:08
are his injuries? He's got a big mouth. The
45:12
ribs. He said a
45:14
few, but it's all... Oh, did he give you
45:16
his injury report? He said a few injuries.
45:18
Yeah, yeah. Brock's been playing with fractured ribs
45:20
for two months. Do
45:25
you think that's how it happens? No, I
45:27
don't. But yeah, he's... I
45:30
mean, that's the type of kid he is, you know. He didn't... Never
45:34
complained, never said boo. He could have been out of
45:36
line up a number of
45:38
times, and he just wasn't. I
45:43
don't think John wanted him there anyways. I'll
45:46
take him with one rib. No,
45:51
he honestly... He's got a, you
45:55
know, under advice
45:57
from our medical staff, too. It's
45:59
best. that he gets healthy.
46:02
You also mentioned the other day
46:04
after Fleury resigns you weren't making
46:06
any decisions obviously right now about
46:08
the goaltending but I'm curious what
46:11
factors will you consider in deciding
46:13
for tandem for next season and what order
46:15
you want to see these goalies back
46:17
in. What factors? What will you consider in
46:19
deciding that? Yeah
46:25
I honestly I don't know if I have a
46:27
great answer for that question right now like I
46:30
I mean there's a lot that goes into it
46:33
you know
46:35
I'm comfortable I'm comfortable with our
46:37
goalies the way it is now I mean we're
46:39
gonna have to talk about it assess
46:42
everything really
46:46
find out where where
46:48
everybody is you know how like what's a workload
46:50
gonna be like for flower what you know what's
46:53
it gonna be like for Gus is how many
46:55
games do we need Wally to get because he
46:57
needs to get more than than he got this
46:59
year so all those things are
47:01
gonna kind of come into
47:03
play I just don't have anything
47:05
definite for you we're gonna we're gonna talk about
47:07
that. John you reflect
47:10
on the season that Correll had what were you
47:12
most impressed with? I
47:16
would say the combination of his his talent but
47:19
his drive and competitiveness just
47:24
you know I know I've said it lots of times but
47:26
he just his love for the game I mean
47:29
you know you go around different
47:31
teams and you work with different players and different
47:33
status of players but you come here Correll
47:35
I mean he loves the game
47:38
like whether it's practice or game he comes
47:40
out in pregame skate it's like a normal
47:42
practice like he just every day he
47:45
drives the team that way but
47:48
the combination of his his skill
47:51
set and how hard
47:53
he competes that's that's rare to
47:55
find a player that skilled that
47:57
talented that has that competitive edge
48:00
to his game has been
48:02
really impressive. John,
48:04
I wanted to ask you about Ryan Hartman. He
48:08
seems like he'd be a big piece next year. You want
48:10
to score more. He's got the ability. What
48:13
did you learn about? He also seems to be in the
48:15
middle of big wins. Anecdotal or anywhere,
48:17
he seems to be. What did you learn
48:19
about him getting 60 games with him? And
48:22
what did you see him learn next year?
48:25
I've learned that I'm really excited about him. I
48:28
think that he
48:30
has something that he's, what I
48:32
learned from him is I think there's so much more
48:34
upside to Hartsey. The
48:37
reason I say that number one is
48:39
he has that competitive gene when the
48:41
temperature gets turned up, when
48:43
there's pressure in games, when you need
48:45
a big play, he doesn't shrink. He
48:48
can perform in those environments. And I
48:50
think that's hard to
48:52
find sometimes. He's
48:57
a guy that he's a versatile player. He can play
48:59
wing and center. He's shown that he
49:01
can do a good job killing penalties. He obviously can
49:03
play in the power play. He has the ability to
49:06
score. I think
49:08
that moving
49:10
forward with him, what excites me is all those
49:13
things that I just said. But now, how can
49:15
we help him and work together with
49:20
getting him to a level where he's impacting
49:22
games regularly? He's got the big moments, and
49:24
he has these parts of his games that
49:26
you see, like there's some real potential here.
49:30
We need him to be good. I know he wants
49:32
to be good. We had a great meeting. And
49:35
I think that Ryan Hartman's upside, still
49:37
even though he's a veteran player. I
49:40
think it certainly can
49:42
go in the right direction. And
49:44
when you have players that have that
49:47
competitive nature and they can play in
49:49
those things, they do help you win
49:52
in key situations, hard situations. Now
49:55
it's how do we help him and he helps
49:57
himself become a much more
49:59
consistent player. a reliable player to get the
50:01
most out of his talent and his competitiveness.
50:04
And that's what excites me even when you go back to say, how
50:06
is the team going to be better next year? In
50:09
my experiences with them, whether it's
50:11
Gudrow, whether it's Johansson, whether it's Hartman, when
50:15
you have quality people and they care,
50:18
it's our job to try to help them to be better. And
50:22
whether that was Freddy or whether it was Johansson, you
50:24
look back to when we can blame the player. But
50:27
we also got to look back at coaches maybe
50:29
we didn't help them enough to get out of
50:31
certain situations or to drive them
50:34
in certain ways. But they
50:37
are guys of high character. They
50:39
are competitive. And they're good players.
50:42
So they have some things to do. But I think
50:45
as coaches, we need to do a better job and also look
50:47
in the mirror and say, how do we help get
50:49
more out of them? What can we do better with
50:51
them? And Hartsey is certainly one of those guys.
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