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the worth of every day

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welcome back to mile high podcast

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episode one night

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and today we are doing quite an

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interest

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one know i'm so excited for the sub so

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yeah needs hear this topic is

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really wildly the actually touched on this

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very briefly back during

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the ponder sash like what like a year

1:05

ago or longer like as a universally

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one of are like in for topics back when

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we have to do that

1:10

because this there was a film

1:13

that was made about this individual named david huggins

1:15

on love and saucers yeah nice idea

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me it was actually upon are so email and

1:20

are like a paranormal unos fit

1:22

the time i mean the semantic content

1:24

we have is becoming and ,

1:26

remember one day and up with but yeah lead

1:28

athletes her son is very briefly and

1:31

he says wanted a more indepth episode

1:33

so that's what we're doing today little bit

1:35

as skeptic vs believe or tails the

1:38

i'm pretty skeptical about this in your

1:40

order and the really i mean is it really

1:42

comes down to do believe that people

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the experience it firsthand with aliens

1:47

and abducted by aliens

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and now an all around it

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down to do you believe the that huggins

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had an experience because i do believe that's what you

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have experience it okay well

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okay not in the little i don't know

2:02

live on the fence outdated huggins himself you know

2:05

okay fair enough or not

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i mean i tend to to lean more into

2:09

people's experience especially with somebody

2:11

like david who so matter of fact

2:13

about it i mean he doesn't waver at all and

2:15

know his telling so sorry i'm in he's the harry

2:19

was very details about everything leah

2:21

detailed this on will differ require

2:23

some open mindedness for sure

2:26

the years if you're skeptical at all i mean a lot

2:28

of people are very skeptical about him into thank

2:30

all those guys crazy you know

2:32

he's the dealing with other

2:34

things which maybe that's the case but

2:36

maybe he really does have all these experience

2:38

movie with really and aliens into

2:41

just pre face what

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this is kind of centered around as that's

2:45

basically david lost his virginity to

2:48

an alien woman or alien

2:50

the hybrid being alley older woman

2:52

president baby oh yeah oh yeah

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he's a hotline to see how

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easy it easy it as of imagery we can

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go through the he's a he's an artist and

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and the reason why the film was

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made because he has a whole collection of of painting

3:05

and sort of how he recalls his memory so

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it's really interesting sort of the different methods

3:11

that people are able to pull memories out

3:13

of you know their brain from years and years ago

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i mean there's hypnotism ,

3:17

is no but then there's legitimate if

3:19

you know the hearsay out of somewhere else

3:22

as as i mean i

3:24

mean for some people guess it's come israel

3:26

the ass but that will be up for you to decide

3:29

at the end and there's a there's a lot more to

3:31

his story though obviously we're all the movies

3:33

paintings are so graphic i don't know few tips

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and allow it all blur whatever to

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be too graphic south of his

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as are pretty his pretty are

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there so i get on board for a lot when guys

3:45

is gonna be fun for me a lot of and of forgiveness

3:48

that we

3:49

have a secret that we've been more

3:51

yeah we're very long time and were so

3:53

excited to finally tell some

3:55

of you may already know because

3:58

i already did announce it on the channel

4:01

they be on my youtube channel what's

4:04

the seeker pain

4:05

the secret is that

4:07

, are that

4:10

are having having

4:14

an alien gonna

4:16

looks like you're wondering about yes

4:18

we are having about baby

4:20

free are and those pregnant yeah

4:24

i'm so excited so excited believe how

4:26

quickly all the sort of happened but we

4:29

are expecting a baby

4:31

and august yeah little my her

4:33

baby yeah

4:34

yeah i'm in the second trimester now and

4:37

i'm so happy to finally the

4:39

top of my secret because then really hard

4:41

to that zone around us the

4:43

hard to just

4:45

hold it in and not tell the world with his

4:47

as such a big deal eating yeah i

4:50

mean our lives are in chains completely

4:52

l yeah yet and i mean i'm

4:54

not sure

4:55

how things are going to play out for the podcast

4:58

if that's a lot of people be curious

5:00

about that will we be taking time off

5:03

monday filling in for me i'm not really sure

5:05

yeah yeah that went on a plane and by year and now

5:07

and yeah everything's and and continue as normal and

5:09

we have a home otherwise and no idea

5:11

we have a tight figured out so the

5:15

very exciting it's extremely

5:17

exciting

5:18

indeed you know very excited we can maybe

5:21

selling emilio just like her

5:23

it costs him that really on your both i know

5:26

that's crazy the let i

5:28

hope it's not your birthday is in have enough to wait

5:31

the only over day after he

5:33

only a few days ago read eight

5:38

the fires yeah but that's not that's

5:40

our over do i now but when you're that

5:42

when you hit forty weeks you just want that thing out

5:44

of heard oh no

5:46

i'd wanna legally names or might have other

5:48

plans other as i get a lot of my hands

5:51

but yes very excited for

5:54

probably a little live at some pirates

5:56

her life and their fiery like we said

5:58

it really does come with like an ale the other name

6:00

only got our ultrasound you were

6:02

joking how kind of looks like it

6:05

he let the caught a comma

6:07

seemingly body second series

6:09

of talked about war with that turn out to be a

6:11

fetus or any kind of makes sense because

6:14

the facial structure looks very

6:16

similar to our baby's face will start

6:18

soon as i played and develop an

6:20

iguana looked over like is are actually

6:22

let's say a sonogram we are a for it

6:24

and i was like only caught that's like scary

6:26

that that's in there goes like the first thing that kinda my mind

6:28

went out on human i have like a very

6:31

go the factors that was in this baby is already

6:33

super active they were literally

6:36

doing somersaults and jumping around

6:38

when me through the eula phonogram

6:40

for nagging i mean i can't feel it

6:42

the doctors that it's jumping on my bladder

6:45

and it's making me have to pee all the time don't

6:48

want that for me thank you baby my

6:51

gut feeling on and on this pregnancy

6:53

is as gonna be a girl that

6:56

you can feel that way to him the like

6:59

the wives tales are kind of leaning that way

7:01

to yes on again myself

7:03

now they hire and we can be surprised but

7:05

either way and is that a debt ceiling us since the beginning

7:07

that i can be completely wrong everyone around

7:09

us seems to be getting girls hill like know and

7:12

i know as guests beliefs and

7:14

it's surprising with

7:16

we end up having a boy

7:18

i will be very happy when they that is i don't

7:20

care at all exists so so excited

7:22

i can't believe this is eleven times now we're sitting

7:25

in the comic you're having lunch and like

7:27

this or that

7:28

human this is a didn't me an adult

7:31

person paying taxes once yep paying

7:33

taxes when they like and

7:35

wild having a career you

7:38

know getting married you know

7:40

and they're just in their balance around swimming

7:42

in the amniotic fluid the up like michael

7:44

phelps not bit though for real am in the things

7:47

act is it's how it's , like

7:49

the parents of wild maybe

7:52

listener on a doctor is like calling

7:54

me a gymnast

7:56

it's a very high is very canada though it's

7:58

really lines up wow isn't the else

8:01

they really are in their yeah

8:03

the notice the only titles the hell yeah let

8:05

us know what you guys think i want to put have your gases

8:08

below for gender because we

8:10

are gonna know i think by the next time we podcast

8:12

and

8:14

no will have one more week of

8:17

a lot of thing before

8:18

the now we know for sure all no faith

8:21

in early february or to upsets

8:23

for now hurt by it i'm just

8:25

so happy

8:26

the i've been fiercely the happiest i have ever

8:28

been in my life or her soft

8:30

you answer

8:33

i know a guy i have like new

8:35

purpose in life isn't editing

8:37

i feel like for so long have been to serving

8:39

my own the person all

8:42

one desires and goals and obviously

8:45

are shared goals but now

8:47

i feel like i'm starting to just

8:49

think more about the

8:52

baby the for myself

8:54

a little bit like forensic hundred transition our

8:56

yeah and that

8:58

you're starting out yeah a secular i

9:01

don't want to read wake up call when the baby

9:03

comes but just it's

9:06

it's it's a special feeling of hard to describe

9:08

like knowing that i'm gonna be about like

9:10

my christmas this year we're going to be parents

9:12

like what i halloween yeah by

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halloween by , birthday i

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columbus day for

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9:26

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9:29

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9:31

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9:34

there's some thought their the like oh my god pod

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we get into the

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very strange? Mysterious live Encounters

11:27

of David Huggins? some

11:29

are going to start here with a clip of

11:31

david introducing himself because

11:33

i think that would be the best ways the that six

11:35

hundred get a feel for him here

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my name's david huggins i'm

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, two years old old

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i live in hoboken new jersey last

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childhood was strange to a certain

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extent i was seeing things

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my parents newton

11:54

nobody my family's seem to sue how

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obvious seen the david huggins

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was born in nineteen four

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or and raised on a farm in rural paulding

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county georgia he is english

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choctaw and cherokee david

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had a brother and sister who lives on the farm

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with him their parents were big

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drinker

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And sometimes they get drunk and hit

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David with a belt or a switch.

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Is that also cheated on his

12:19

mom with multiple women and

12:21

the two of them thought a lot David's

12:23

childhood was pretty traumatic. I

12:25

really didn't have a great relationship. with

12:27

his parents and by any means than and seems like

12:30

what kind of on his own a lot and

12:32

is kind of in the background they're

12:34

being his his parents' relationship

12:37

i have a child say that enjoy working on his family's

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farm and

12:40

the also liked to explore

12:42

and collect arrowheads that he would find outside

12:45

yeah he believe that's native americans

12:47

actually lived on the land that his

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farm is on offer many

12:52

many years prior so that's how he'd go out

12:54

and find he said he founded on of arrowheads

12:56

which is really cool or to find a

12:59

can remember i feel like i went looking for arrowheads when

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i lived in oklahoma to there's a lot of in

13:03

american land out there in her a thick turn

13:05

recall where exactly it was i remember going

13:07

out and finding like arrowheads

13:09

like you could just find him in the in the dirt in

13:12

certain areas which is really cool and if we

13:14

had a huge collection of of arrowheads

13:16

from her from his childhood and the

13:18

thing and virtually he lost it at some point

13:20

but

13:21

oh yeah i know a bummer sucks

13:24

but that's pretty cool so his grandparents

13:26

took him to tent revival of which are

13:28

even jelko christian church services

13:31

held in large outdoor tense and

13:33

the experiences he had their work overwhelming

13:36

and a bit bizarre

13:38

pretty much drove him away from religion as

13:40

a whole gets have revival can be a very

13:42

traumatic experience firstly first saw a yeah

13:44

the only one know i've never been to a tent revival

13:46

thank god but never even heard of that basically

13:49

it can get crazy out there like people speak

13:52

in tongues sometimes there's

13:54

churches in texas and in oklahoma

13:56

where they they there's like a rattlesnake turret

13:59

for the bring a bunch poisonous snakes and and

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it's kind of people that believe like a power

14:03

of god is going to protect them from

14:05

these these like poisonous snakes

14:08

and and different things like that and they

14:10

incorporate those into their services

14:12

that kind of like taking religion

14:14

to the extreme and away from like a a

14:17

christian perspective on and

14:19

people's offense pass out

14:21

in it's it's pretty intense out and

14:23

i can see how somebody

14:26

would definitely be turned off by it ah

14:28

but a lot of people do her taken the ten revivals

14:31

the one nine hundred fifty two david had his

14:33

first encounter with what he believes

14:35

like an alien and he was only eight years

14:38

old at the time one day

14:40

david was playing at the base of a tree near

14:43

his house then suddenly he

14:45

heard a voice saying the

14:47

and when he turned around ah

14:50

small harry creature the

14:52

egg blowing

14:54

the eyes i was playing at the base

14:56

of a tree and i heard this voice

14:59

say david behinds i

15:02

, around and there's this little

15:04

hairy guy with lies glowing eyes

15:06

coming straight toward i

15:10

thought it was the boogie man i didn't know like

15:12

to think up

15:13

that was interesting is that for a split

15:16

second up felt as if

15:18

i was in his eyes looking

15:20

at me that's really interesting on his or

15:22

his eyes looking at me so much like

15:24

trade places with whatever this creature was

15:27

it looks almost like a like a

15:29

miniature sasquatch or something

15:31

and it reminds me of the nowhere man yeah

15:34

you know beetles yeah our realm yeah

15:37

really interesting

15:39

and he just said i like the the thing that really

15:41

as attention where the eyes eyes are just like

15:43

glowing that's creepy

15:46

sort of on the fuck inside screaming seriously

15:49

the of that thing him walk and how the forest all

15:52

your name how much the thing if

15:55

it this creature started

15:57

towards him obviously

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he was just kind of mesmerized it for

16:02

for a few minutes but then he realize i spry

16:04

run away from the thing is again he did thing that

16:07

it was the bogeyman a mean when you're that young

16:09

i'm sure you would have thought of the worst possible

16:12

case scenario of of what this thing is

16:15

in the creature turn around and walked back into

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the woods when he looked back around

16:19

once he got away

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and he wasn't sure what he saw bodies decide not to

16:23

tell anyone at first the

16:25

same your davis grabbing something from the barn

16:27

when he heard a strange noise coming from the other side

16:29

of it when he walked outside saw

16:32

large alien creature look

16:35

like a praying mantis

16:37

that would be scary to see like

16:39

a human sized mantis

16:41

being that is so nightmares

16:44

praying mantis are really cool but

16:46

really freaky

16:48

have you seen those guys like each other

16:50

bugs if the heads off of fellow

16:52

praying mantis as the other they're bad

16:54

as predators honestly felt yeah

16:56

during saint

16:58

this thing to me to is he's so

17:00

young and he's already sorry there is sort

17:02

of a theme among other the

17:04

experience or those are calling

17:06

the seeing minted

17:09

be right and weeks ago and that before

17:11

yeah we have i think and ah we did

17:13

like a whole alien species of

17:15

so that that's like one of the top one that

17:18

people claim to exist in have

17:20

seen before so it's and think that i'm

17:22

such a young age is already seeing man

17:24

had been that obviously this

17:27

really freaked him out so david started to scream

17:29

and as creature sprayed him with a blue spray

17:31

liquid and started to runaways

17:34

on no and as he ran

17:36

he noticed that the liquid was evaporating off him

17:38

quickly david had no

17:40

idea what even make it as encounter is like

17:42

why did this even happened in the first place

17:45

the following year say they had another

17:47

says are citing while he was going to a friend's

17:49

house he was walking through field

17:52

behind his barn when he started to feel like

17:54

he was being watched the he

17:56

heard a noise that sounded like a cow mooing

17:59

in any thought that looked like a bright

18:01

glowing head hooking up

18:03

from a nearby bush obviously

18:05

this freaked him out a lot and

18:08

all the sudden he fainted and

18:10

meanwhile there were small gray being surrounding

18:13

him the even heard of read

18:15

beeping noises and then woke up in a field

18:18

of tall weeds without knowing

18:20

how he got their so clearly was

18:22

very confused

18:23

the beating about this encounter for a second

18:25

it's it's interesting to me that these

18:28

gray aliens or are what

18:31

essentially these beings are based on his description

18:33

and his artwork

18:34

the grey aliens are one

18:36

of the most notable species that are seen

18:39

more experience during alien abduction

18:42

and often times they'll gray

18:44

beings are there to do experimentation

18:46

on on people yeah that seems to be

18:48

the trend so it seems like perhaps

18:51

he is great aliens were sort of the

18:53

kind of the surveillance

18:55

on on david and

18:57

the you know they have the ability to to cause

19:00

you to pass out see know they have telepathic

19:02

abilities and things like that and therefore

19:04

there may be just scoping out to see

19:07

if he was a good biological specimens

19:09

of the test on isn't

19:11

he woke up they were gone

19:13

then a few years later in nineteen fifty

19:15

for the beams visited day that again

19:18

the was in a small field hunting for

19:20

arrowheads when he looked up and saw

19:22

eight or nine small gray beings falling

19:25

from the sky

19:26

the being hit the ground and then bolted

19:28

towards him holy shit no

19:31

way no way so he panicked and

19:34

he ran back to his house but apparently the

19:36

aliens taste after him it

19:39

was so scared and he didn't know what the

19:41

beams wanted from him so he tried to hide

19:43

behind the front side of the house

19:45

then when he looked through the pillars below the

19:47

house he saw the aliens turn

19:49

and walk away

19:51

and he pictures these aliens on in

19:54

his paintings wearing blue suits

19:56

to that was pretty interesting i haven't really seen personally

19:59

anyone else

20:00

described them as wearing blue suits

20:02

have you yeah actually are you hire

20:04

the the grace do were like spacesuits

20:07

i spent some time but sometimes

20:09

they're yeah not necessarily blue but sometimes they're

20:11

like skin color or yeah as

20:13

in the but the yeah blue or orange and

20:16

them he called the little aliens in the blue

20:18

sits the grace that

20:20

night he saw the in group of graze outside

20:23

his window alien locked

20:25

into his room and have day that outside

20:28

that when they grabbed him and he and the beings

20:30

floated up into a spacecraft

20:33

that night i'm looking out

20:35

the window and boucher sitting somewhere

20:37

the little guys can i see them come

20:39

in and to my room and

20:42

they take me outside and me for loaded

20:44

up to some type of crap

20:47

that's crap new was like was very friendly encounter

20:49

either based nose or suicide use

20:52

absolutely terrifying kidnapped yeah

20:54

when we kidnapped by the grace and taken into

20:57

taken into scary once on

20:59

board david saw a female alien with

21:01

black hair holding iran one

21:03

of the aliens held david down while the woman tilted

21:05

his head back and inserted this rod into

21:08

his nose it seemed like

21:10

she was placing something inside of him

21:12

like probing him after the insertion

21:14

david cried out that the woman had heard the

21:17

woman said let me see when

21:20

she looked a david he felt all this pain

21:22

melts away

21:23

there was like she spoke to him telepathically

21:26

they think you know we're hearing the aliens

21:28

sort of speak to him period i think it's all

21:30

telepathic communication thing he's actually hearing

21:33

verbal communication from any

21:35

of the aliens in fact it's all coming through telepathically

21:37

she's hearing it in his head

21:39

i hate looking at that painting of them shoving

21:42

nothing of this know the other to go on at all

21:44

is to bleeding a

21:46

he shook my head back little grey

21:48

guy whos me as ,

21:51

the rods up my nose

21:53

see inserted something and salmon

21:55

oaks accuracy put money

21:57

down as said you hurt me you hurt me

22:00

as she says let me see

22:02

it

22:03

she looked at me and she made the pain go away

22:06

but these greeley and concede to visit

22:08

him throughout his childhood

22:10

he said they're spacecraft looked like bri oval

22:12

shape this and sometimes they would land

22:14

in the fields there's house

22:16

sometimes they were either darker colored the

22:18

most the time they were very very

22:20

light and color is totally quite

22:22

around david whenever he saw the spacecraft's

22:24

and all the noises around him would suddenly stop

22:27

he the her nothing but complete silence

22:30

i think there were multiple krauss only

22:32

song like we're at a time that

22:34

they were around oval shaped very

22:37

bright sometimes they would dark

22:39

when they were around there

22:41

, just an incredibly beautiful

22:43

silence silence mean it

22:45

was like emphasis on a bachelor's the

22:48

definitely is

22:50

something that a lot lot of other your foe

22:52

experience years have the

22:54

mentioned as well that because the

22:57

way that these these craft work is

22:59

that they're in a sort of distorting time

23:01

and space so they do create like a vacuum

23:04

and if you're within the vicinity of the crafted it's

23:06

sort of pulls you into this

23:08

the world where it completely silent

23:10

you're sort of removed from all of your surroundings there

23:12

could be

23:13

loud noise is happening around you but yeah you

23:15

don't hear anything at all

23:17

really interesting makes you think like other

23:20

dimension

23:22

yeah yeah well that that's what could be i mean

23:24

they could be traversing through another dimension

23:26

or arm in are just another

23:28

layer of reality

23:30

the beans david encountered definitely

23:33

scared him as a child there were never

23:35

menacing or threatening towards him

23:38

the little grade looked like they were workers have some

23:40

kind david it also met a

23:42

tall thin being with a knob on the top

23:44

of his head that is being was

23:46

the alien and charge the

23:48

praying mantis being spoke to david gently

23:51

he was a child and or years

23:53

alone in gray's there

23:55

were small i gonna get

23:57

the impression they will workers

24:00

harry guy it

24:02

, his eyes and always got me a tall

24:04

thin being he had on not on the back of his

24:06

head he was like the person in charge

24:09

looks like a leader leader the end

24:11

he said with me he reminded me

24:13

of a praying mantis tariff on t

24:15

was frightening but he always spoke

24:17

to me as if i was a child you

24:21

that's so weird oh

24:23

weird if one scares the the most ah

24:26

i'm praying mantis day which one would you

24:28

want to meet

24:31

which one would you want to get that you one

24:35

integrated via the grave into

24:38

the announced their second probes that so

24:41

honestly none of them such as oh

24:43

and david told his parents

24:45

the encounter that he was having but

24:47

they never believed him his father would

24:49

actually yell at him and on the south making things up

24:51

and nobody else was seen with david was seen

24:55

i'm david potter would give him a beating actually

24:57

when he claimed he saw an alien one of the aliens

24:59

the david met was a female being who he calls

25:02

crescent moon david

25:04

told crescent that his parents gonna believe

25:06

that he'd seen aliens and they

25:08

whipped him because he hasn't did not

25:10

like hearing this so she looked

25:12

at him right in the eyes and told him then

25:15

don't tell them and even worse than her

25:17

and he never told his parents about his encounters

25:20

ever again i'm being the

25:22

claim that crescent saved him from being

25:24

bitten by a poisonous snake in the yard

25:27

no no time david says he was about

25:29

to drown when he heard a voice say

25:31

let him live the route

25:33

suddenly caught his foot and saved

25:35

him the credit for aliens for

25:38

saving his life then in nineteen

25:40

sixty one the even had his most

25:42

famous alien encounters

25:44

the seventeen years old at the time

25:46

the one nine he was walking through feel on the way

25:48

to friend's house when he saw something weird

25:51

the strange looking woman sitting under a tree

25:54

the a large black eyes black hair pale

25:57

skin and long black fingernails and

26:00

she wore long blue rope the

26:02

and david locked eyes the being

26:05

started walking towards david and

26:07

he said he suddenly became very sexually

26:09

aroused david been ripped his pants

26:12

off the fell back on the ground

26:14

that's when the salient being on

26:17

top of him the started having sex

26:19

with him

26:20

when he climaxed he said it was very

26:22

painful yeah that's that's an

26:24

interesting note the a painful the

26:27

like good at the same time

26:29

the said after they finished he looked into the being

26:31

a glowing eyes and he immediately

26:33

passed out the minutes later david

26:36

woke up the he was all out

26:38

in the field

26:39

the very confused and he didn't know why his

26:41

pants and underwear or off so quickly put

26:43

them back on and left the field the

26:46

he had no memory of the encounter after waking

26:48

up

26:48

it actually wasn't in so many years later that

26:50

david realize that he had lost his virginity

26:53

to an alien the also had a realize

26:55

that the alien woman was named crescent for

26:58

the same alien he had spent time with

27:00

as a child the

27:02

are creepy yeah yeah like

27:05

syrian on him yeah

27:07

oh really me the creeps

27:10

honestly weird it's very weird

27:12

the david end up having twenty five encounters

27:15

with aliens from the time he was eight to the time he's

27:17

nineteen years old the he encounters

27:19

didn't stop after he had sex with crescent though

27:22

two years later david was nineteen and the situation

27:24

at home was getting to be too much for him the

27:26

parents are constantly fighting and they didn't like the

27:28

david was so invested in creating

27:30

art david dreamed of attending

27:33

an art school new york city the every

27:35

news parents never approve of it the

27:37

one day david left the house without telling

27:39

them the new to new york the

27:42

now that he's finally free of his parents he could create

27:44

a new life for himself at the art students lee

27:47

that is an art school in new york

27:48

one day in nineteen sixty five

27:51

or nineteen sixty six david was walking

27:53

home from class on a rainy evening

27:55

the pretty transportation workers were on strike

27:57

at the time meaning no buses or so

28:00

they're run they didn't want to get

28:02

soaked on his long way home

28:04

the walk down fifth avenue and stuck his

28:06

them out to try to hit you right that's

28:08

when a big black car pulls up next to him

28:10

and a woman inside the car as david where he was

28:12

going we told her that he just

28:14

needed a ride across central park and

28:17

then he would walk the rest the way home the

28:19

woman told him to get in so he did they

28:22

didn't speak much during the car rides and when

28:24

the ride was over david thanked her for taking

28:27

woman said nothing she just nodded her head

28:29

and david went on as well you

28:31

believe that the woman may have actually been

28:33

an alien

28:35

that night they the dreamt that a strange woman

28:37

was approaching him with her eyes closed

28:39

the experience felt dreamlike and surreal

28:42

the he didn't think the and

28:43

with actually a dream he didn't

28:45

remember anything else about the a counter just

28:47

the woman's face which he has pictured

28:50

here the dream repeated itself every

28:52

night for months on end the

28:54

never dated said he'd hardly

28:55

dreams he would wake up the next morning

28:57

and hear the words holy back to know

29:00

the couldn't figure out of these encounters or real are

29:02

just as our dreams so he

29:04

decided to do it has after

29:07

class one day the bought from pink

29:09

flowers and less them out for the alien

29:12

if he was lying in bed that night he said

29:14

those are for you when he woke

29:16

up that morning the flowers were gone

29:19

though air as a pretty good test

29:21

their cricket test the

29:23

next night the alien we visited

29:25

david

29:26

crescent the same alien woman

29:28

that had taken his virgin the two years ago

29:31

you dated a comforting and pleasant

29:33

silly never cared ham or made

29:35

him feel threatened

29:37

the body with quote similar to humans aside

29:39

from her large eyes and very pale skin

29:42

david pain is a very

29:44

very interesting picture or enough

29:47

to blur that one per se and i choose not

29:49

gonna like that yeah he's got very vivid

29:51

memories of crescent alexa she's holding

29:53

her the history is haven't

29:55

thought of it's of it's that me a

29:57

that out david and ah betsy

30:00

it like human anatomy to

30:02

i now it's like spot on with

30:04

a female human so much this is a

30:07

it almost to me seems like cresson is some

30:09

sort of like hybrid gray human

30:11

being as you got kind of the grey

30:13

aliens face and head and eyes

30:16

but then she's got the human

30:18

body ah and

30:21

an anatomy so

30:23

if it's thing that she might be some sort of hybrid

30:25

like it could be that the group of aliens

30:27

that are all visiting david are involved

30:29

in some sort of like hybrid being

30:32

experimentation it seems like that and

30:34

david sort of the human dna that they

30:37

they're using in order to keep the

30:39

the line of the everything's going or something

30:41

gets kind of interesting she's the one that's

30:44

sleeping with him can see i see think maybe

30:46

see they think she would be the closest

30:48

the one now it had the most possible

30:51

most successful chance of creating

30:54

yeah human be as she's like half

30:57

half half herself right and they're kind of bonded

30:59

at this point since they did have this

31:01

experience and intercourse with each other's is kind of

31:03

like looking out for him going

31:05

forward after after they initially had

31:07

sex with and sing in that she could

31:10

have been potentially the one in the vehicle

31:12

that picked him up that day or

31:14

maybe he just was confused and it was it

31:16

somebody random and and he somehow

31:18

time that back to her by

31:20

the dancing that she's kind of like this guardian

31:22

angel for him to in a way so

31:24

that night david remember that the two

31:26

of them rub their heads together lovingly

31:28

and then they had sex on it but

31:31

the following day david will get below

31:34

the crescent continue to visit him at night

31:36

and it grew feelings for her

31:39

we were rubbing our heads together and

31:41

next time you miss your girlfriend

31:43

start rubbing his trust new vice

31:47

, full of of well

31:49

i'm rubbing i'm is that as

31:51

being able to try that name is

31:53

the interim head since

31:55

very nice interim head don't like what will happen

31:57

to start rubbing has and you actually like panties

32:00

they had yeah it'll hurt or you'll

32:02

hit each other in the nose or something like ten

32:04

but rubbing heads maybe it's like a secret

32:08

yeah member and one of the try it out

32:10

sometime to save his advice maybe

32:12

talk about other had

32:17

maybe not

32:18

maybe that the joker save it is dry

32:22

rubbing heads with

32:24

the david said the two of them a shared

32:27

a bond and that crescent became

32:29

like a girlfriend to they would have

32:31

sex in david's room when she visited but

32:33

they were never alone

32:35

i'm eyeing mantis creature us

32:37

allies and center that see the human

32:40

eye and the whole self

32:41

there are you in a corner just watching them and

32:44

they'd leave after david impressive had

32:46

sex with

32:46

creepy basilica the man said

32:49

being is like some sort of overseer i

32:51

clearly there to make sure that

32:53

that happened that day she's

32:55

getting impregnated them like

32:59

creepy though some honestly this was

33:01

an unconventional relationships with a little

33:03

a good pick

33:05

my president was very loving and caring

33:07

partner david david said he really

33:09

enjoyed spending time with crescent then

33:11

wonder if

33:12

the nineteen sixty seven day was working on a painting

33:14

when the wall opened up crescent

33:18

hurried into the room the very

33:20

upset then she told david

33:22

that the baby was die even

33:26

with i want what you mean the babies die the

33:29

what baby she responded your baby

33:32

the die

33:33

the react to see the baby and at first

33:36

crescent new want to sell him david

33:38

just caption show me my baby

33:41

show me my baby the crescent

33:43

pick the baby up from a strange container

33:45

and dangled in front of him

33:47

that he describes it as her can i like playing

33:49

and him around go with did you do

33:52

they was like that's no way to hold a baby

33:54

you are you holding like that and he showed

33:56

her how to actually cradle the baby in

33:59

her the fact

34:01

that crescent his know how to hold the baby made david

34:03

really worried yeah curtains

34:05

to take him to where she lived in crested

34:08

told him it wasn't allowed to go there

34:11

the baby needed help and he wasn't

34:13

going to let it go

34:14

maybe try to argue with her when all the sun

34:16

he just passed out on his bed then

34:19

when he woke up he was standing in a strange alien

34:21

round

34:22

the insect being walked up to david and angrily

34:25

asked him what he was doing that david

34:27

told him that he needed to see his baby

34:30

the you think being said no when

34:33

david fell to the ground and wales it

34:35

was actually moved by his actions like

34:38

they don't know what love is like david current

34:40

clearly showing like love and admiration

34:42

for this baby which they're claiming it's

34:44

his the and the

34:46

being that first like

34:48

what you do and it but they start to get that oh

34:50

he actually really cares about this hybrid baby there

34:53

was no holding the baby but it was moving in

34:55

all

34:56

in fact being allowed david to reach out and touch

34:58

it and when he did the felt

35:01

a shock of electricity the

35:03

baby actually moved

35:06

the like some sort of energy transfer a taken

35:08

place the actually yield the

35:10

child

35:12

in fact we invent whole david a come with him

35:14

and he branches strange room for babies

35:16

and glass box it's almost like incubators

35:20

it was shocked and yes the being

35:22

who's babies they were the

35:25

insect been just pointed to david

35:28

the looked like david had apparently fathered

35:30

hundreds the hybrid

35:33

human alien children with crest

35:35

the airframe being is looking at recess

35:38

and with me and we go into another

35:40

room filled with babies and

35:43

, looking at them mlc online

35:46

god whose baby zones zones

35:49

he points to me to wasn't

35:51

so much as creeps me out as like this

35:53

i just how

35:56

did you marry them all mine why

35:59

is like that the be more

36:00

yeah that's exactly what i was thinking like i

36:02

didn't imagine the bill

36:03

why he actually had a thought of like

36:06

i have to pay for college froth is like

36:09

, my god i'm going to sit on these kids who

36:12

knows how much alien dollars god

36:14

damn

36:18

you bad about gov david really

36:20

that all these hybrid babies of his knees

36:22

help that they weren't doing well for whatever reason

36:24

so the went in touch every single

36:26

one of them

36:27

the corner the market crescents like slinging i'm

36:29

around descents uses just like he did

36:31

before david touch each and every one of the babies

36:33

and the energy transfer yield each one

36:36

of them the following day david woke

36:38

up feeling exhausted probably

36:40

from transferring all that energy

36:42

the impact being visited him that night

36:44

and brought him to a room full of glowing light

36:47

david soon as room for a few minutes and he felt

36:49

the energy absorbed through his body the

36:51

that when he woke up the next day

36:53

the had an incredible amount of energy that

36:56

lasted for weeks is like

36:57

the dispelled all of it and then they helped and I

37:00

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38:55

so immediately broke down in tears

38:57

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39:00

in all my fault over

39:02

and over the cma beings repeated

39:04

that everything was fine david had

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a break in

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one your arms out cried no no no

39:10

while to alien women grabbed and

39:12

health down on the floor he

39:15

credit card

39:17

the i wrote down not something the

39:19

baby died the baby died

39:22

oh my god is my father's my phone

39:24

everything is fine everything is all right

39:26

everything is fine everything's all right

39:29

but it wasn't for hundred it wasn't

39:31

oh right no no no no

39:33

no no no no no i was

39:35

carrying on i'm scrolling my arms

39:37

crying unsupportable since

39:39

manic ass really does

39:41

he really thinks said the

39:44

alien babies of has died that

39:46

when crescent appeared and she run the over to him

39:48

and said david

39:49

what's the matter and he said my

39:51

baby died i was holding it and

39:54

got scared and i dropped it it's

39:56

all my fault my fault that

39:58

press and told him that the baby wasn't it

40:00

and then when and a female the and walked into the

40:02

room cradling the baby in her

40:05

arms and when dave found a baby

40:07

all his fear and guilt disappeared

40:10

the once again felt safe the

40:12

extraterrestrials clearly didn't know that

40:14

much about raising partially human babies

40:17

i don't see that had to teach the alien

40:19

mother's about how to breastfeed their infants

40:22

the children were both male and female

40:24

and their mothers fed them a brown substance

40:27

that look

40:28

chocolate pudding ill because

40:30

that is sick

40:33

me i'm just picturing all this guy going on

40:35

at something they're feeding them said i

40:38

got a voice what else

40:40

is like looking like chocolate pudding unless it was top

40:42

of that often women on

40:44

like a putting

40:45

yeah backpack baby i

40:47

think there's a calcium american work just

40:49

had work here

40:50

the by that point david had fully fallen

40:53

in love with crest and any said that if the

40:55

aliens had allowed him to come live in

40:57

their realm with her he

40:59

would have said yes and of heart be you

41:01

wouldn't have minded leaving earth behind for

41:04

them the fact he said

41:06

there's any sucks i mean

41:08

not literally what he said that have

41:11

you know it's pretty bad or on here for your

41:13

time is going up the war

41:15

and famine and the wouldn't mind leaving

41:18

earth and training for them the

41:20

in effect been decided that david had

41:22

to go back to earth after each visit and

41:24

this me david really upset the

41:26

accepted or decision even though he really

41:29

wanted to say un held

41:31

him in hold him before he

41:33

returned to earth three special portal

41:36

they would continue to see the aliens pretty regularly

41:39

the even had sex with some of their other alien

41:42

women our they're available very

41:44

nice

41:45

sometimes the beings with come and visit him and his house

41:48

and sometimes they'd to come out to their space

41:50

around overall he probably

41:52

visited with aliens over the hundred

41:54

times he thinks it's

41:56

been a lot of time there with them ah

42:00

the time the when you type in

42:03

i get people don't know if you'd like at home sleeping

42:05

yeah time time is like

42:07

on all time a different rate though the current

42:09

times the be like a few minutes

42:11

that is actually gone in our time and there

42:14

for the hours or days

42:16

are long is

42:18

you know their with crescent and he could have left his

42:21

the his body here and and like

42:23

it

42:24

spirit or something tramon the and like another body their

42:26

study doesn't even realize like he's missing or something

42:28

that's true anything's possible in this yeah

42:32

service business things

42:34

possible true

42:36

the despite all these encounters and the

42:38

detail that david recall it

42:40

wasn't until later in his life the david actually remembered

42:42

these encounters

42:44

whenever the aliens came the him he experienced some

42:46

sort of amnesia after their visits

42:49

on august seventeen nineteen eighty seven the memory

42:51

started back in as your birthday dinner

42:54

how yeah i'm i wasn't

42:56

born eighty seven think you know the

42:59

aliens hadn't visited david in a long time

43:02

that is point he had pretty much moved on with his

43:04

life you've got married to a mosaic

43:06

artist named janice the couple

43:08

had a son named michael their

43:10

lives are perfectly normal until david's memories

43:13

came back

43:14

though the aliens were visiting him anymore he still

43:16

felt their presence the starting

43:18

to feel like you're being watched every

43:21

new day was still with anxiety and confusion

43:24

david is know what to do with the strange images

43:26

popping up in his mind

43:28

that's funny heard about an alien abduction

43:30

researcher named but hopkins the

43:33

david went ahead and purchased a copy of buds

43:35

book intruders the incredible visitations

43:39

coakley words the

43:41

when you start reading this book the triggered

43:43

something in his brain in

43:45

all these memories came flooding back

43:48

i'm going back to the house and

43:51

, through the book and

43:53

there's this chapter other women are the men

43:56

and ask dot reading it and go oh my

43:58

god this , woman never

44:00

told anyone about as as reading

44:02

it memory upon memory come

44:04

from flooding back in was

44:06

just like in which upon image of i

44:08

am it's it was incredibly difficult for david

44:10

to process everything he had suddenly remembered

44:14

i'm scared and alone he didn't know what to do

44:16

the couldn't sleep for many weeks in his life was filled

44:18

with stress and paranoia starting

44:21

to feel like he was going crazy the

44:23

one i say aliens this is a david again

44:25

and they brought him to a meeting

44:28

you're trying to decide whether or not to let

44:30

him for gate paintings of er visit

44:33

oh alien commander family sense

44:35

what david do his paintings the know

44:37

that david with fifty years old

44:39

when that meeting took place alien

44:42

didn't make their own art it

44:44

seem like they were interested in creativity and human

44:46

or david silva he thinks the female

44:49

aliens black hair might be wigs

44:51

that they wore for us said a grievance

44:54

the hair was usually messy and sometimes

44:56

looked as if that were lots i said it's

44:58

of them as you

44:59

the to actually work of the courage to create his

45:01

first painting of the aliens but when

45:03

he did finally painter a sense of relief

45:05

washed over said that night he

45:07

slept peacefully for the first time

45:09

in weeks finally he had found

45:12

a way to release some of his the it he

45:14

said the memories were causing him the

45:16

decided to keep making these paintings of his

45:18

encounters the very healing to

45:20

him

45:21

put his experiences on campuses

45:23

and come face to face with them

45:26

images gave him a sense of peace and understanding

45:28

that he'd just never had before

45:30

the we will get more into where david

45:32

that today over little bit more of his paintings

45:35

and talk more about his the

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does that mean the rest of the time they are just like

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combated or humans always

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in a state of cambodia ocean the

46:55

joy of course something dramatic happened

46:57

and we are dis bobby lady

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for a while

47:01

you may go back to be income bobby latest yeah

47:04

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47:06

and and save geico the easier than

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you think oh david feels

47:10

as though

47:11

he definitely traumatize on some

47:13

level and his experiences which is

47:16

very understandable

47:17

that the same time he said they were thrilling and

47:20

very meaningful then he won't trade

47:22

them for anything the think for

47:24

the in them for using him for breeding purposes

47:26

legally the he still fully is

47:28

trust in and sense the

47:30

kind of relationship that they had dealt with david

47:33

the very important to him the that he would

47:35

still leave earth for them if they'd ever had

47:38

meanwhile things weren't doing so great

47:40

and his marriage back on earth if

47:42

you month after david read invaders

47:44

he and janice got divorced they'd

47:47

actually already been having some problems in their marriage

47:49

but the alien stories were just the final

47:51

straw for janice and sheila when

47:54

david souter down and told her everything

47:56

she thought he the creepy when

47:59

your son michael around four or five

48:01

years old the was having a lot of difficulty

48:04

when his parents split though even

48:06

moved in with janice in their new york city apartment

48:08

make it easier for my goal

48:10

they were still separated hand genocide

48:12

together ever since

48:14

david so told his son about some of the encounters

48:16

when michael was a child

48:18

the explained his son that the beings in

48:20

his paintings were extra treacherous

48:23

and that they were good friends of it

48:25

i don't remember that his childhood was pretty

48:27

easy and he was never really concerned

48:29

about the beings in his father's paintings he

48:32

just kind of accepted it eventually

48:34

michael move to thailand and he got married

48:36

and he now works as an e s l teacher

48:39

for his father's encounters he believes

48:41

that they really did happen

48:43

the aliens have not contacted michael

48:46

as far as david know

48:47

the even now lives in hoboken new jersey

48:50

and works a part time job at a deli

48:52

when he's not painting then living

48:54

with his ex wife janice in hoboken

48:57

twenty years a long time to live with years

49:00

even after the sun's gone through must be sentence

49:03

between them so that friendship

49:06

maybe

49:07

the regularly meditates and interpret some

49:09

of his experiences using eat

49:11

saying an ancient chinese

49:14

divination tax the book of

49:16

david art called love it an alien

49:18

purgatory was published in two thousand

49:20

and nine david a proof of

49:22

the bug he doesn't think the title

49:24

accurately reflects the nature of

49:26

his experiences

49:27

the other seventeen director brad abrams

49:30

actually heard about

49:32

david story i believe it was a podcast

49:34

or something like that he just randomly heard about it isn't

49:37

and he tracked david down so

49:39

this wasn't like david

49:41

orchestrated this documentary or any

49:43

of us to ever come out the public

49:45

at all this is all the producer

49:47

and and directors doing business

49:49

and sort of seeking him out

49:51

in love and saucers he actually see where some of

49:53

david's paintings were exhibited as an art gallery

49:55

new york david's also working on

49:58

a screenplay of his own about his life they'll

50:00

make paintings of his encounters values and starts

50:03

painting the aliens do not want him to

50:05

make up anything though about the paintings

50:07

so david paints only from his memories

50:10

and over time is created over one hundred fifty

50:12

works of art featuring those

50:14

been that he encounter

50:16

there's one time i did one painting

50:19

which are totally made up ah

50:22

destroyed it the main reason why did is

50:24

that they were very upset with

50:26

me and it was like david's

50:28

do the paintings but don't make anything

50:30

up so he's claiming that

50:33

everything he's ever painted is on

50:35

one hundred percent real to him a real experience

50:37

he had that he this

50:40

would never pay anything at the

50:42

made up

50:44

or from his imagination because the

50:46

aliens we get mad with him for not representing

50:49

them accurately i guess that after

50:51

he had his paintings on display for the art show

50:54

the being actually paid david another visit the

50:57

group of young aliens told him that they had a body

50:59

for him

51:00

then he recalls that there is a younger version of

51:02

his body in the alien realm that

51:04

he could only get into with the help of the

51:06

insects be the aliens one have created

51:08

this body

51:10

some sort of afterlife or david but

51:12

it's not entirely sure what it's purpose is

51:14

present sometimes brings her children over when david

51:16

visits the spacecraft that he hasn't

51:19

seen the kids and a long time the

51:21

remember that there are always happy to see their father

51:23

that the like to play hide and seek with him

51:25

to to say the alien still visit david

51:28

from time to time well david

51:30

has grown older that's his appearance

51:32

has stayed the same the usually

51:34

sees her about once a month

51:36

in the meantime he assumes still living her

51:39

life and raising their children somewhere in the cosmos

51:42

why people have asked david why the aliens

51:44

chose him specifically david

51:47

straight up doesn't know the answer to that question

51:50

there's been asking that

51:52

themself every day think we would all exiled

51:54

answer that the absolutely the

51:57

beings have never told him i the

51:59

can not knowing what the reason was the

52:02

author doesn't know where the exactly they're from

52:05

that he doesn't care other

52:07

people's doubts don't affect him david

52:10

know the aliens are real that's

52:12

all that matters to him

52:14

you're afraid you're in a planetary find

52:16

their and a galactic find another universe

52:19

find another dimension i

52:21

don't know i just don't know you know

52:23

it doesn't really matter to me i

52:25

know they exist and know the real and

52:28

that's enough for me and they have they ever tell

52:30

me where they're from i'll let you know he's very

52:32

matter of fact about his his answers

52:34

any and and it's interesting cause like

52:37

there's people out there who would tell

52:39

you where they're from even if they didn't really know

52:41

where their front right they would be like ali other from

52:43

near dallas see you know they

52:45

were to elaborate more on the story but

52:47

it's interesting that he says no

52:50

i don't know they have never told me this is what

52:52

happened to me and that's it yeah that he doesn't live

52:54

in l a chef it really that

52:56

much i mean there's

52:57

you know through this whole story we just went through i mean

53:00

there's so many places where it's like

53:02

just gaping holes of information of like

53:04

okay well what happened after that of that but it's site it's

53:06

like pieces that he sort of put together mean

53:08

their memory that he recalled yeah

53:10

he doesn't i sell it in rail

53:13

get people to believe him which don't

53:15

make them feel a bit more credible

53:18

ray wall else it's like he

53:20

clearly doesn't feel the need for anyone to believe

53:22

no it's it's very like this is very

53:25

special to him almost in like

53:27

a spiritual if i'm like he really

53:29

connects with it on a deep level as it's

53:31

not about the entertaining people

53:34

like

53:35

you know some really all this yeah he's just

53:37

as crazy guy that's in a wants them

53:39

hopefully get a movie deal or it ever has

53:41

a guy thing really big into movies and saif

53:44

i stuff but it's like it doesn't seem like that

53:46

at all the middle east writing a screenplay

53:49

right more you know is writing a screenplay but

53:51

it's like is that screenplay ever going to go

53:53

anywhere in on probably not so

53:55

it's like it's is for his satisfaction

53:58

probably for him to help

54:00

him tax to go along with the paintings

54:02

to if you think about like you've got all these paintings

54:05

what if you know when you leave this

54:07

earth he wants to leave behind

54:09

something that explains the paintings

54:11

in his story

54:12

aliens have to approve that and winter meetings

54:15

since they had were proved the paintings

54:17

probably like movies as a big step for that

54:19

is that the private i want me to be left for

54:21

that pro animal movies well

54:23

let's talk about yeah

54:25

david as a whole could obviously

54:27

i'm sure there's many of you out there are like okay

54:30

this is seems like guy's guy's got

54:32

wild imagination and then

54:35

maybe he does leaders

54:37

right i think either way david

54:39

bullies

54:40

that he had the experience that burns your one hundred

54:42

fine on and he has any devious

54:45

intentions behind telling people he doesn't

54:47

mean not trying to trick people i think he truly believes

54:50

that whether or not they actually happened the

54:52

up for debate right

54:54

this story is obviously very hard for many people

54:56

to believe because david has no proof

54:58

of these encounters other than his memories that

55:01

he paints on canvas and i understand that

55:03

he's not able to get any proof

55:05

what is he gonna do like a

55:07

photo of them are bring

55:08

one of them down mean there's really not a

55:10

way to prove it

55:12

if it is to help latin of course

55:14

if you can't prove something they're gonna be a

55:16

the skeptics that there are a lot

55:18

of believers as wealth and

55:20

just to clarify david has not taken

55:22

any medications or been under psychiatric

55:24

care aside from his alien encounters

55:26

david has lead has pretty normal life

55:29

story of also remained pretty consistent throughout

55:31

the years that is one thing he can give him credit

55:33

for as his he has very consistent the

55:36

name he doesn't really

55:37

the shuttle one i think i mean

55:39

the flowers in dallas further than right

55:41

right

55:42

but also i think it's important to note that

55:44

he that he doesn't take any medications i

55:46

mean as far as we know that there's third

55:48

he's a totally normal guy

55:50

there's nothing you know there's no in

55:52

or disorders or any sort of mental

55:55

health issues there

55:56

we're aware of the he also has never

55:58

been under psychiatric care so how do we even drilling

56:01

of her

56:03

affair sheriff but

56:05

the we did david see the aliens at night

56:07

but they also visited him during the daytime as

56:09

well so he doesn't think that

56:11

he can just chalk that these experiences to

56:13

some while dreams which i think that's

56:15

that's one of the biggest theories i

56:17

think most of our visit this is some sort of

56:20

dream that they're having or i

56:22

thought maybe he's like lucid dreaming yeah

56:25

an inherent lucid dreams he's

56:27

you know having these encounters that

56:29

feel totally real button or artefact

56:32

dreams david's artwork does seem

56:34

to be a way of healing for

56:36

him and connecting with others with had

56:38

similar experiences because there aren't times

56:41

of people there's this had all types

56:43

of wild alien encounters or religious

56:45

experiences in sexual

56:48

experiences which is pretty

56:50

interesting know i mean forty million americans

56:52

say they have seen or know someone who has seen

56:54

a your phone

56:55

there's a forty million people see your foe and

56:57

then i mean there's no exact stats on

57:00

alien abductions as far as they now

57:02

but it's there's a good chunk of people that

57:04

out the name similar experiences

57:06

to david

57:07

happening with david ray is there's doesn't seem

57:09

to be a lot of motive to make

57:11

all this up like what is he gaining

57:14

from it and he's dedicated a lot

57:16

of time you know to his artwork

57:18

and he doesn't really profit off of the

57:21

you know no one on a ton of money and this

57:23

so that's not really a motivator for

57:25

sharing his experiences and exhibiting all these

57:27

paintings know what he would have made a dime

57:29

off his artwork and silver

57:31

the documentary came out he seems to just want people

57:33

to know that we're not alone yeah

57:36

so it's kind of he know

57:39

something that he had to make up your own mind on

57:41

because there is no proof and

57:44

that's why i can a struggle with it i mean it does

57:46

seem like as all

57:49

as encounters are pretty out there by if

57:51

one in particular is really hard

57:53

to wrap your mind around and i

57:56

don't know if you know what are your thoughts

58:00

the i don't think i believe david understandable

58:03

they feel like

58:05

it's almost a little who

58:09

hell no way i'm like why was he chosen

58:11

to have

58:12

how many experiences to have kids

58:14

that these alien why have

58:16

no one's ever

58:17

it might come forward and said they've

58:19

all thought that experience oh is he like just the chosen

58:21

one of the planet well actually there are has

58:23

an people that have claimed to have kids

58:26

and i don't know about

58:27

my to procreate hundreds of kids

58:29

with these days the down

58:32

before yeah people have claimed oh yeah

58:34

oh really ought to have hybrid children sir

58:37

when hundreds out

58:39

about hundreds but i don't think

58:41

he even knows exact and exact number

58:44

the owner the some of the things he talks about

58:46

really does sound like dreams like they are

58:48

so weird that the would be trains

58:50

and they're still like foggy a or i

58:53

don't want to accuse him but maybe he's yeah

58:56

buildings you

58:57

psychedelic hudson says that

59:00

, allowed him to have these experiences

59:02

may be he's really into meditation

59:04

that us

59:05

a lot of to have these experiences ah

59:10

hannibal looted to astral projection

59:13

that perhaps that's what's happening is

59:15

he sort of astral projecting to another

59:17

you know realm as he says and

59:19

perhaps that's what he's doing a mean he seems to be

59:22

well versed in a lot of

59:24

the

59:25

the ancient techniques of meditation

59:28

is going on the back to the

59:31

barracks and i mean if you go look into

59:33

history of in there's a lotta interesting

59:35

experiences are there similar not

59:38

not in detail to david but somewhere

59:40

in

59:41

sort of these profound experience

59:43

is that people have so over

59:45

the i'll give you so my experience

59:47

as he can try to you know compare and contrast

59:50

with with david's experience so there's obviously

59:52

been a lot of people have had some or stories of alien

59:54

encounters and there are other people that

59:56

reported having sex with the lead be the

59:59

nineteen fifty seven brazilian armor named antonio

1:00:01

villas or has claimed that he was

1:00:03

abducted by a circular alien spacecraft

1:00:06

while he works on his farm

1:00:08

i want you on board the ship human like aliens

1:00:10

addressed him and took blood samples from it's chance

1:00:13

the claim that the being then covered him and strange

1:00:15

gel

1:00:16

then an attractive human like alien woman

1:00:18

with platinum blond hair entered the

1:00:20

room the naked and she had a red

1:00:22

body hair appointed sand large

1:00:25

blue eyes and a human body the

1:00:27

antonio inslee became very attracted the

1:00:29

woman and be in the public sex and

1:00:31

after is over the woman rubbed her belly and pointed

1:00:33

to the sky

1:00:35

and how do you think that this meant the one that was going to give

1:00:37

birth to a child and space then

1:00:39

after that he was taken off the shit though

1:00:43

maybe be failing have taken people like antonio

1:00:45

david to create a colony of human alien beings

1:00:48

why they do that obviously isn't super clear

1:00:50

but i think i think some of it has to

1:00:52

do to the the think about one of the biggest

1:00:55

things among the

1:00:57

alien experience serves as that and

1:00:59

this is shared among many people including

1:01:02

including people like doctor greer in a lot of people

1:01:05

think he's a he's a quack to but it's like

1:01:07

one it the the biggest thing is it's all about

1:01:09

attention if you

1:01:12

intent you know if you put your intentions out

1:01:14

there and do it in

1:01:16

good faith that you want to

1:01:18

experience the things may be

1:01:20

these aliens or extraterrestrials

1:01:23

are looking for people who are open

1:01:25

enough

1:01:26

you're experiencing things because the average person

1:01:29

is to skeptical you know too much of

1:01:31

a skeptic are just

1:01:32

open your mind enough to accept that the things

1:01:35

could be reality so therefore they don't interface

1:01:37

with people like that and the people that they

1:01:39

do interface with art to

1:01:41

most of us we were just look at as crazy but

1:01:43

in fact they are the most open minded people of them

1:01:45

all and that's why they actually

1:01:48

wow these people to have these experiences because

1:01:50

they're not going to

1:01:52

the come you know skeptical about

1:01:54

they're gonna they're gonna accept it and just

1:01:57

roll with it versus be like that i really

1:01:59

do that and

1:02:01

when you think about that i think that's think that's point

1:02:03

excellence and into it's about an ancient slightly

1:02:06

part of like the whole see five initiative

1:02:08

is going out meditating and calling

1:02:10

out essentially through meditation them

1:02:13

and telepathy to the stars

1:02:16

and

1:02:16

what happens we see that craft show up

1:02:18

their son he know he claims of captured alien

1:02:21

beings on camera non photographs

1:02:23

and actually their presence is detected

1:02:25

in so for me when i think about

1:02:27

alien abductions i'm thinking well

1:02:29

maybe if people are just putting so

1:02:31

much of that out in the universe at these

1:02:33

signals are actually being picked up by

1:02:36

these these aliens and the rest

1:02:38

of us are just just not putting

1:02:40

that out there so we're not getting those experiences

1:02:42

back

1:02:43

that makes sense but how does that explain david's initial

1:02:45

experiences because he wasn't putting any of

1:02:47

that out at first they just showed up for he was

1:02:49

in a way because the guy was that a big i was obsessed

1:02:52

with psi phi and in

1:02:53

the my a young age of any was a sense to

1:02:55

open my right he was already open to

1:02:57

the concept of alien spacecraft

1:03:00

son was obviously

1:03:03

you know opens that so that wouldn't freak you to think

1:03:05

that if you're somebody who hates isi

1:03:07

hates all of that and you have an

1:03:09

alien or some kind of creature show up

1:03:11

and you're not used to seeing that that's going to

1:03:13

scare the shit out he so why the hell

1:03:16

where these aliens are creatures take

1:03:18

that chance of scaring you and something going

1:03:20

wrong or or

1:03:23

you know causing harm to and a traumatic

1:03:25

way to wear you know your scarred

1:03:27

for life because you had this encounter with an alien

1:03:30

vs somebody who's actually seen

1:03:32

something similar before and would be able

1:03:34

to recognize what's happening

1:03:37

to them without freaking

1:03:40

out and except the experience

1:03:43

the i would like to believe him i

1:03:45

would see what is this i

1:03:48

just so hard the yard take his word

1:03:50

the i mean obviously i believe

1:03:52

in aliens and i believe that people

1:03:54

have encountered them and before

1:03:58

this is really hard to us we

1:04:00

buy like the whole story then

1:04:03

i know is like whenever i don't care if you believe your

1:04:05

i guess my head of really feel like give a shit

1:04:07

if you believe me or not even is what is it

1:04:10

the i mean i know maybe i think

1:04:13

that's the thing

1:04:14

that make me honest you know santa

1:04:16

skeptic side but not become

1:04:19

a non believer completely because

1:04:21

david doesn't seem

1:04:23

the type that would just make this

1:04:25

the up it doesn't seem like he has a huge ego

1:04:27

and know like obsessed with people believing

1:04:29

him he really it doesn't care that

1:04:31

to chill dude that a kind of makes you think me

1:04:34

and who are we to say right your experiences

1:04:37

are

1:04:37

ron right for you know didn't have

1:04:39

that we don't know the thing about

1:04:41

it from his perspective to think about

1:04:44

how how brave he had to have

1:04:46

been to come forward and be a part of a documentary

1:04:48

and put others out there he knows the people are grey

1:04:50

and you're like yeah i mean you go let you go look

1:04:52

at comments and reddit i mean p airbase

1:04:54

a slight people call him as schizophrenia

1:04:57

ah who likes painting and mean people

1:04:59

are saying the most judgmental shit

1:05:01

out there and i'm just like you don't fucking

1:05:03

know you are the judgmental use your

1:05:06

common writers the very reason

1:05:08

nothing fucking happens for you and

1:05:10

you don't ever experience anything profound

1:05:12

and that's a good point is like because you're

1:05:14

putting that out i mean it comes down

1:05:16

to spirituality end of the day and this is why

1:05:18

this ties into spiritual and

1:05:20

religious experiences and people's claims of miracles

1:05:23

and there's people that write new york times bestsellers

1:05:26

on see going to heaven and coming

1:05:28

back i mean this is all the same

1:05:30

boat where that all these experiences

1:05:33

these profound experiences that

1:05:35

nobody has concrete physical proof

1:05:37

like you're able because it's not possible

1:05:39

because the spirits are taking place in

1:05:41

another realm that we had not

1:05:43

capture in any way shape or form other

1:05:46

than through our consciousness and

1:05:48

so

1:05:49

people just automatically chalk it up to well

1:05:51

if i can't see it touches touch it

1:05:53

or feel it it's not real

1:05:55

that's just the ignorant way to look at the world

1:05:57

because the world is way more than

1:05:59

just what

1:06:00

the five senses can see yeah

1:06:02

we already know there's light and everything else

1:06:04

happening of i mean there could be spirits whirling

1:06:06

around us at all times we just can't see it

1:06:08

with the naked eye so people like to say

1:06:10

well ghosts aren't real the

1:06:12

like

1:06:13

okay they're not real to you because

1:06:15

you can't see them with your to eyes but

1:06:17

what if what if there is there and

1:06:20

they can be seen with other forms of life

1:06:22

and other lenses like you know mean

1:06:24

like it's just yeah

1:06:26

that hard to pick and choose you know who

1:06:28

to believe when some people had experiences i

1:06:30

think it's interesting that for

1:06:32

all civilization ancient

1:06:34

call the heard

1:06:36

you know have written about being visited

1:06:38

by what they call a god or

1:06:41

goddesses are absolute angels

1:06:43

and like you were have saying

1:06:45

josh whatever it is

1:06:48

we all come from the

1:06:49

as a macro more would say

1:06:51

whatever god you believe it will all come from the same one

1:06:54

streetlight whatever is out there is there

1:06:56

is something out there were lots of god

1:06:58

and then alien

1:07:00

often a different realm of angels

1:07:02

whatever that those

1:07:04

the out some it sounds like something that

1:07:06

up the other kids is people have been having

1:07:09

these experiences for thousands

1:07:11

and thousands of years maybe

1:07:15

we're just like to

1:07:16

hold minded now to have those

1:07:19

types experiences that ancient civilizations

1:07:21

of hide no or

1:07:23

maybe because like to exploit of the

1:07:27

and want why the i think it's a it's a double

1:07:29

sided issue i think it's i think it's yes

1:07:32

i think it's harder to believe people's experiences

1:07:34

because there are people who just straight

1:07:36

up why and because it because

1:07:38

there is no way to physically prove the things

1:07:41

make it leaves the a opportunity

1:07:43

for people to exploit it and that our

1:07:45

biggest problem in the world is ample see where

1:07:47

they can exploit the saying that

1:07:49

a lotta times are sacred and

1:07:51

should be celebrated and to be studied

1:07:54

and instead they go and they just why

1:07:57

and and are totally fraudulent

1:07:59

in order to the you

1:08:00

that are themselves or you know

1:08:03

gain something from it versus yeah

1:08:05

and so it tarnishes everything it's

1:08:07

like yeah that's what kind of keeps me on skeptical

1:08:09

side because there are lot people

1:08:11

that are are charlatans are frustrate

1:08:14

leading people astray thinking you know act

1:08:17

speaking like they know the truth when

1:08:19

in fact

1:08:20

they're not they should also be admitting well

1:08:23

this is my truth yeah but this is it

1:08:25

may not be the reality for every monday that

1:08:27

does that in l yeah i mean he

1:08:30

doesn't

1:08:30

how could anyone in a claim like behind

1:08:33

have the answers and everyone should

1:08:35

believe me his it's his personality

1:08:38

that makes me leave

1:08:40

him a little more

1:08:42

i mean and in just the other thing too that i

1:08:44

mean it's also hard when you look at his story

1:08:47

without knowing more about

1:08:49

alien abductions and you don't look at

1:08:51

all the all the data and

1:08:53

the amount of people have come forward and

1:08:55

here other abduction stories and

1:08:57

you really do start and varieties yeah

1:09:00

absolutely there's absolutely crossover

1:09:02

between them i mean to me it seems like

1:09:04

the grey alien thing is like

1:09:07

there's a good chance that is not a a like

1:09:09

a real reality that

1:09:11

there is some sort of and his tail yeah

1:09:13

the man other again and again and

1:09:15

also these hybrid beings i mean the hybrid

1:09:18

thing is very interesting

1:09:20

the know a lot of the stories surrounding

1:09:22

alien abductions has to do it genetic

1:09:25

experimentation it's like mean it kind of

1:09:27

makes sense i mean if you had a if you

1:09:29

had a species from another world here observing

1:09:31

as they have this advanced technology they're

1:09:33

able to observe without being seen

1:09:35

most of the time

1:09:36

that you know they're trying to figure out ways

1:09:39

to perhaps better those their

1:09:41

species or create a hybrid species just

1:09:43

like we create hybrid animals all the time

1:09:45

we cross in addicts all the time create new

1:09:48

new types of of dogs and in

1:09:50

all these different things it's like it's

1:09:52

not that far off that a more advanced

1:09:54

civilization would be trying to do the same thing

1:09:56

here for for all we know we

1:09:59

came from

1:10:00

the mother civilization and were in theory

1:10:02

hybrid beings written and we've you know

1:10:04

evolved to what we are now but

1:10:06

maybe our we originated as

1:10:09

grade

1:10:10

so when we say oh they're part

1:10:12

human part alien like maybe it's own the same

1:10:14

one were just kind of like a different like dogs

1:10:17

they're different breeds but they're all still a

1:10:19

dog sis recent reality in asia

1:10:21

right now total it i mean it goes back

1:10:24

in mean it really is

1:10:25

the a philosophical idea

1:10:28

that you go all the way back to the creation

1:10:30

of the universe ray and and you look

1:10:32

at all the theory there and like how did how

1:10:34

did

1:10:35

everything come to be and that's

1:10:37

what religions have that's why religions are around

1:10:39

us to the all claimed to have the

1:10:42

answers to how the the the universe

1:10:44

began and how we all came to be but

1:10:46

when you look at all the religions and

1:10:48

you know the religion i grew up in it it's a

1:10:50

lot of the stories and a lot of their similarities

1:10:53

there and mean jesus is rising into

1:10:55

the sky and like

1:10:56

the you know there's people people

1:10:58

coming back from the dead there's ot

1:11:00

there's all sorts of experiences that

1:11:03

people my you know if you've never read the bible

1:11:05

for new read the bible you be like holy shit this

1:11:07

is crazy like what's going on in here and

1:11:10

lots of near a little it's like

1:11:12

it's all relative right it's all just

1:11:14

relative to what you know and and what isn't

1:11:16

and you know your skepticism is based

1:11:18

on what you don't know you're always skeptical

1:11:20

about what you don't know what you haven't experienced

1:11:23

yourself

1:11:23

though i think the best way to go about these

1:11:26

these sort of stories and people as like

1:11:28

you are you always keep an open mind unless you're

1:11:30

able to concrete you know find

1:11:33

a concrete piece of evidence to suggest

1:11:35

that that person is lying the

1:11:37

war in altar you know an alternate

1:11:40

reason then i think

1:11:42

take the person's word for it doesn't mean that you

1:11:44

have to fill i mean that you follow

1:11:46

them you know thrilling elite at everyone's

1:11:49

word for their experiences that we'd i mean it's

1:11:51

conflicting it doesn't make sense to believe

1:11:53

everyone at the same time like i definitely

1:11:55

do not believe david one hundred percent of open

1:11:58

to the idea that he could be telling the truth time like

1:12:00

all on board david the man he knows when night

1:12:03

while this is a real so if by

1:12:05

not believing david what does that do for you

1:12:08

allows me to stay open minded

1:12:11

the my i noticed that affects you though if you are as

1:12:13

they i believe david how these experiences how's

1:12:15

that actually directly affects you because then i'd be

1:12:17

saying i believe in something i don't believe in the

1:12:20

i need more i'm open to

1:12:22

it i could believe in it

1:12:23

the get the possibility you think we're alone how

1:12:25

positive or you that we are alone on the

1:12:28

universe

1:12:29

we are no definitely not alone i blew and allow

1:12:31

that shouters all that big i

1:12:33

believe that you are not alone the universe in that

1:12:35

that means i have to believe david wright has

1:12:37

that they all another thing david have but

1:12:39

david that validates david's

1:12:42

experience you to certain extent i

1:12:44

see what you mean you don't mean to yeah he's having

1:12:46

this experience with extraterrestrials will that suggests

1:12:48

that we're not alone the universe so by saying

1:12:51

that

1:12:51

i believe we're not alone the universe but not validating

1:12:54

david duke street doesn't mean i'm not saying that

1:12:56

you like so i needed i would have to believe every

1:12:58

single person's alien experiences and

1:13:00

i know there are so many people out there who

1:13:02

are right mean be stored or and double

1:13:05

a mining op ed think the people

1:13:07

that you can at the summit you can't believe

1:13:09

that aliens are at one hundred

1:13:11

percent real that we are not alone in that universe without

1:13:13

believing david

1:13:15

and reason believe somebody

1:13:17

can give you a reason to not believe

1:13:19

them why not believe

1:13:21

the front of like i applied we for sir

1:13:23

billi that we're not alone do we have proof know

1:13:25

to have concrete proof know so just as saying

1:13:27

like when it on on pancake concrete proof

1:13:30

that david not right i see or

1:13:32

argue the front of like you don't

1:13:34

have concrete proof that we're

1:13:36

not alone the about you believe it

1:13:38

wholeheartedly there's nothing wrong

1:13:40

with leading why the i believe the

1:13:43

aliens do exist there's

1:13:45

you know glad i feel in people though

1:13:48

isn't i'm saying is i don't have the people get

1:13:50

this little are subtle buyer has got another that here

1:13:52

is skeptical worthless im yeah

1:13:54

i'm skeptical and

1:13:55

the be skeptical learned that it's healthy and and

1:13:58

fine still isis a different person

1:14:00

the vibe i believe everyone

1:14:02

i believe how to sit but i still i see

1:14:04

evidence otherwise is what i'm saying is like

1:14:06

i'm i'm capable of figuring out

1:14:08

if people are bowl sitting are not allowed you

1:14:10

have to believe why do we have to be on a side

1:14:12

of belief or not leaving why can't we just be i'm

1:14:15

somewhere in the middle might be telling him that he

1:14:17

might have access to things and might have been dreams and might be

1:14:19

something else i don't know how

1:14:21

you can hang on to another human beings experience

1:14:23

that they've had that fair

1:14:25

to say that he and and there's no

1:14:28

evidence to suggest that the dude is out

1:14:30

of his minor the duties on drug

1:14:32

there's no evidence no evidence to suggest

1:14:35

that he is how did our just the third life

1:14:38

elsewhere in the universe what you believe know that

1:14:40

is evidence that throws the thing there

1:14:41

our crop circles the the

1:14:44

remember the i could pay lot of partners million

1:14:46

the skeptics would pick all of those things that

1:14:48

the i'm saying is it's like that how can a there is

1:14:50

no way to prove that these crops or have to be made

1:14:52

by human

1:14:54

image is one example i have plenty of

1:14:56

reasons to believe the aliens

1:14:58

are rail fare are

1:15:00

so many more documented and

1:15:02

girl to documented alien abductions

1:15:04

er doc is that yes of course they meaningful

1:15:06

bail

1:15:07

the abduction been general but do i believe david

1:15:09

specifically one thousand present i would

1:15:11

say not only way they were not believing

1:15:13

they've because there's not enough

1:15:15

proof for me unfortunately i wish

1:15:17

the with our every alien abduction at

1:15:19

every encounter

1:15:20

that way that's why i don't i don't think

1:15:23

there's one alien encounter out there

1:15:25

that i would say believe one hundred percent i

1:15:27

don't not believe them i'm open

1:15:29

to it

1:15:30

i i need more and i'm sorry that's just the way

1:15:33

i'm not going into say i believe in things

1:15:34

the like are on a clue how dare you have of folks

1:15:38

are your friends

1:15:39

the habit of five year noble my thing

1:15:41

and bullying you again low big way

1:15:43

or we went home girls against the boy

1:15:45

we we this is how we do it at our house

1:15:48

you would never have i wonder how are you have done it

1:15:50

but it's on how you get this is how you get ourselves

1:15:52

in other into this or that one day you gotten their kid's

1:15:54

gonna be a believer or a skeptic or hundred

1:15:57

for they're gonna then

1:15:59

i convinced

1:16:00

a fee or have the says it here

1:16:02

my whole thing is like convinced

1:16:06

what's

1:16:08

your whole thing you could say he the

1:16:10

any experience that you have the

1:16:13

human being is

1:16:16

not not real not legit

1:16:18

why because nobody else witnessed

1:16:20

it so i would go in and had a no

1:16:22

evidence there's no evidence of you ever you

1:16:24

could say

1:16:26

i went to europe

1:16:28

and i have evidence i saw them brad

1:16:30

pitt at panera today and

1:16:33

brad pitt incident

1:16:34

then he would have a believe awaited not believe

1:16:36

that because yeah why the fuck this is brad pitt it yet

1:16:38

nothing here in denver and but that's okay

1:16:41

the final local celebrity super

1:16:44

local celebrity billion celebrity billion saying is like it

1:16:47

seems like yours the

1:16:50

me if the same thing it's the same

1:16:52

thing as if i had this that you know i

1:16:54

saw this you have it's like you have both

1:16:56

then you're saying that people that believe in your foes or

1:16:58

it's it's all it's

1:17:00

now we'll know because a lot of people have

1:17:02

video evidence

1:17:04

how do you but they're skeptics out there that

1:17:06

pick apart every your phone video and say

1:17:08

a good

1:17:08

i'm glad there are because half of them are fucking

1:17:11

sake as hell dude let me

1:17:13

know so much bolshoi i think the believe

1:17:15

every ones that

1:17:16

your the lobby what are your experiences that that

1:17:18

is one of those my point folks my point

1:17:20

point seeing said that you need a critically

1:17:23

think through

1:17:25

everything you do in life every experience

1:17:27

you have even though it seems perfectly

1:17:30

real to you you need a critically think through

1:17:32

that the code the

1:17:35

marine i agree with what's your point

1:17:38

the i'm saying about little think you're backing up what i'm

1:17:40

saying now right but i'm saying you need

1:17:42

a critically think through everything

1:17:45

yeah and i knew that

1:17:46

saying including david's experience

1:17:48

i need to critically think about it and my vertigo

1:17:51

thing says that maybe

1:17:54

maybe

1:17:55

i like to get everything with a dash of maybe

1:17:57

because no fucking know there

1:18:00

are any dream

1:18:00

we do not know and i'm just not going to hang

1:18:03

my hat on anything that i don't have enough proof like

1:18:05

what i'm saying it's it's bulls whether it's skis

1:18:08

oh that no i'm actually very open

1:18:10

to david because

1:18:11

like i said he doesn't have the ego attached and

1:18:13

he's why would he make all this up and

1:18:16

i mean is that accusing me of idea of a or

1:18:18

a believer know i

1:18:19

how do you a million times i

1:18:21

am skeptical but i am open

1:18:25

i don't think this is a black and white there was

1:18:27

no longer any believing know because i don't

1:18:29

believe it and i would be seen as he has i

1:18:32

think i think this is hard too because the

1:18:34

know it

1:18:36

different my my perspective on things have changed

1:18:38

a lot and i think the for a long time

1:18:40

you know i went away from religion

1:18:43

and thinking that if

1:18:45

thinking like you do in

1:18:47

in thinking that is you know there's

1:18:49

a

1:18:50

if there's no definitive proof and therefore

1:18:53

it doesn't exist

1:18:54

that know what i'm saying that if england exactly

1:18:56

the opposite of what i'm saying i'm thing is there's not enough

1:18:58

definitive proof then i landed

1:19:00

maybe down right but that some same why

1:19:02

be a maybe what's

1:19:04

the benefit and when i may be

1:19:06

the keep me open to things that i don't wanna

1:19:08

be that a person who believed everything

1:19:10

because then you're going into believing some bullshit

1:19:12

as you believe in everything

1:19:14

really everything i'm say believe the things

1:19:16

that leave you know reason but to bully they

1:19:20

were there is no reason not to believe it so

1:19:22

what's the how lovely reasons to go to

1:19:24

not believe that hurt not believing david store

1:19:26

i don't

1:19:26

though because what if i'm like oh charlie

1:19:28

can talk my god can target and you're like

1:19:31

me the proof i'm not leaving them charlie

1:19:33

told her i'm like oh no the what's the reason

1:19:35

not to believe that charlie can talk yeah

1:19:37

my little eerie yep exactly why

1:19:39

not seating telling us charlie

1:19:42

can thoughtful and thirty one leave every single

1:19:44

person's claim on this earth it

1:19:47

even if they have no proof then you will

1:19:49

honestly be affordable definitely not be

1:19:51

put that number of thing blindly

1:19:53

believe i'm saying believe

1:19:55

when there is no reason not to believe

1:19:57

if there is a reason was not that different said

1:20:00

we dated both right thing you do not

1:20:02

believe it's but no i don't think i disagree

1:20:04

with that completely i don't think it's either

1:20:06

middle you middle you can can fall in

1:20:08

the middle the healthy amount of

1:20:10

skeptic as that skeptical the about something

1:20:12

i think and feel be open

1:20:13

that it is possible c sar you

1:20:15

think josh the you believe david one hundred percent

1:20:18

i do i think david i think

1:20:20

they're it as you would set your

1:20:23

life that said david

1:20:25

thoreau

1:20:26

that has express purpose i mean prefer

1:20:30

, if , him

1:20:33

if you don't i don't see that you

1:20:35

are one hundred percent david

1:20:37

is true than wouldn't you in theory be

1:20:39

comfortable setting you so

1:20:41

now i have to gamble

1:20:43

yeah you're putting as an airplane

1:20:45

are you there have to believe are you don't so let's

1:20:47

hear it

1:20:48

but i'm not i'm not saying that you

1:20:50

have to be that way i'm

1:20:52

just saying i'm turning explain my

1:20:54

perspective to you vs your daycare

1:20:56

for that is you're not i don't see

1:20:59

a reason there's no her in believing

1:21:01

in his story when i have no reason not

1:21:03

to the doesn't affect me in any it doesn't change

1:21:06

anything about me or if i believe

1:21:08

his story it to me it does because

1:21:10

if i if the leave i truly

1:21:13

believe in i'm not just saying i believe all

1:21:15

thing that people say even when i

1:21:17

don't the until proven otherwise

1:21:21

okay if i did up my brain would be fucked right

1:21:23

because there's so many claims and so many

1:21:25

pete there's no way that the old for what's

1:21:28

that europe in colorado springs that nutjob

1:21:30

was his name that are not that

1:21:32

i was the dude who is literally

1:21:35

had the ailing come up and his back parts

1:21:37

are doing it well deciding

1:21:39

we might find you believe ten know

1:21:41

because i've because i have evidence

1:21:44

to prove that he's not who he says

1:21:46

what if you didn't have that evidence he would just believe

1:21:48

him even though he's totally full of said

1:21:50

clearly until i have evidence to not

1:21:52

believe sure it doesn't do any it whatever

1:21:54

if that's would stand wants to do them that stands

1:21:57

experience i'm not saying that it doesn't affect my you

1:21:59

are ahead world

1:22:00

not exactly what i'm saying was the david as

1:22:03

i don't i

1:22:04

only respect for why be like time

1:22:06

in in half an hour long as i would like to be

1:22:09

and i sent not a good way to be online

1:22:11

i'm not saying i'm not saying you can't be

1:22:13

like damn just saying that the my

1:22:15

perspective it doesn't make it just says

1:22:17

like why leave yourself

1:22:19

in the him but in the they innovate landed

1:22:22

on i make more comfortable in the in betweens

1:22:24

oh okay

1:22:25

because i'm going down the road of believing everything

1:22:27

and then i've had to learn that a lot

1:22:29

of things i believed were wrong and

1:22:31

with proof that they were wrong and i think

1:22:34

that if you are going to

1:22:36

the a believer in this type of stuff in any way

1:22:39

that

1:22:39

if you want other people who are totally

1:22:41

like i'll believe in that shit yeah sound

1:22:43

insane that if you want them to out at

1:22:46

all take you seriously or listen to you than

1:22:48

you have to have some type of skepticism

1:22:50

otherwise these people are gonna be like ah

1:22:52

you disbelieve everything and so how

1:22:54

are you ever gonna allow

1:22:56

the i give yourself a chance to educate those

1:22:58

have such a close off my and don't believe anything

1:23:00

if you're over here like i believe absolutely

1:23:03

everything is this is that the on things

1:23:05

you know think the bottom line is

1:23:07

we agree to disagree he asked for fairly

1:23:10

and we still are in love song i saw

1:23:12

it love and fast the navy

1:23:14

pregnant you're getting a divorce now over

1:23:17

there can be soon as i can have

1:23:19

an alien in there you don't know the know like lillian

1:23:21

he really does the put in a screenshot

1:23:24

and effects i

1:23:26

guess it in the day we don't really know shit

1:23:29

we that none of us know that's the thing is like

1:23:31

i'm just not comfortable we

1:23:33

don't like you don't believe in line faith

1:23:35

though at all no what is i want i want

1:23:38

to fully believe

1:23:39

what if i know anything vaguely has ever

1:23:41

there's this my i'll lick deaths

1:23:43

are ever going to yeah i'm just like it's

1:23:45

five thirty two not going to get hands my like

1:23:47

i said city of list of line

1:23:49

space is not a thing anymore

1:23:52

it seems like my world has moved away

1:23:54

from blind fake id because look how much

1:23:57

blind faith has screwed us in so many

1:23:59

ways that era

1:24:00

then i'm going on all and

1:24:02

wilder days with out critical

1:24:04

thinking sir the line

1:24:06

with

1:24:08

that's where i am line favorite meal critical

1:24:10

breaking a good

1:24:12

right right so i think

1:24:15

i think i may my point i think

1:24:17

you didn't even points

1:24:18

i think we can put a yeah you'd super

1:24:20

bowl

1:24:22

in that video it's oh yes

1:24:24

i do that ah to

1:24:26

figure out a way to do that

1:24:28

we'll see anybody share his arm

1:24:30

back to yes let us know i mean

1:24:32

i i just want to say

1:24:34

for the record i fully believe

1:24:36

that david could be telling the

1:24:38

truth he the hood be and people

1:24:40

could have these experiences i

1:24:42

just know there are too many people that are having

1:24:44

them that conflict that there's no

1:24:47

way they're all telling the truth

1:24:50

and me i don't feel the need

1:24:52

to say whether or not i believe in something there says

1:24:55

i'm open we could be

1:24:57

could not be

1:24:59

i love the maybe they're very go the maybe i

1:25:01

live comfortably their main on some

1:25:03

stay in the maybe zone it better

1:25:05

than being and the

1:25:06

the panel will say

1:25:09

in not seen it all

1:25:11

vs

1:25:12

actually i think i was pretty open minded

1:25:14

today they are considering like where i first

1:25:16

started watching his sails like the bronx well

1:25:19

bless oh boy especially when he showed

1:25:22

that one painting of him like documenting

1:25:25

and i'm not going to cut greenhouse gases i

1:25:27

would be done so you

1:25:30

, maybe they would have some interest

1:25:32

have some make sense human

1:25:35

experimentation with ellen's that at all i think

1:25:37

is all very possible the

1:25:39

area are we agree on

1:25:41

on that

1:25:41

i like learning about david story i respected

1:25:44

i think i'll stick artist he seems

1:25:46

like a very nice man no

1:25:48

day my he might be onto something

1:25:51

he might have to leave soon only things

1:25:54

they're not an eye on were down there at

1:25:56

allow or a wild

1:25:58

child to set

1:26:02

well we will go ahead and rapper cities

1:26:04

of so there i guess hopefully

1:26:06

you found the third of maehara podcast

1:26:09

interesting only viable how with

1:26:11

i normally like

1:26:12

the answer like that seems like whenever we get little

1:26:14

heated people think we're actually findings know

1:26:17

this is not real findings know a fun

1:26:19

for i love it as we love to

1:26:21

go back for it's good i mean we should have differing

1:26:23

opinions on some things i am fine like yeah

1:26:25

that be really until you before you brought yeah right

1:26:27

the same thing with sensation in

1:26:30

a and also is the beauty of the universe is the

1:26:32

different perspectives do bring i come from a

1:26:34

very very opposite background from

1:26:36

and alam raise completely opposite from

1:26:38

both of these guys and like though like

1:26:40

i have a different perspective on sort

1:26:43

of

1:26:43

the other you know other things and faith

1:26:46

and sort of these other spirituality

1:26:48

and in a certain sense because i i grew

1:26:50

up in a different environment so again and

1:26:53

you guys had zero that growing up so

1:26:55

i think that kind of explains why we are both

1:26:57

the way we are because i feel you

1:27:00

you feel the need to either put yourself

1:27:03

on the believing side or the non bleeding like

1:27:05

with everything and i totally get that i respect

1:27:07

that i grew up

1:27:09

maybe down from heaven like right you're

1:27:11

wrong maybe maybe no one ever

1:27:14

would have what would you say india everybody's

1:27:16

and five hundred or data and i i

1:27:18

i the make it clear i one hundred percent

1:27:20

think everybody's entitled

1:27:22

the live and think the way that they want to

1:27:24

me to i was just sharing my personal opinions

1:27:26

and what i've started to realize the my life

1:27:28

is that it's it's such a

1:27:30

short ride

1:27:32

you know what's what's the her in and believing

1:27:34

and having blind faith in in certain things

1:27:36

without having things that

1:27:39

i think there is a lot on or data available as

1:27:42

, as

1:27:45

they will see guys negotiate keep on

1:27:47

hitting your mind a mile

1:28:24

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it's where you unload your stuff get tired halfway through

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i'm packing use some boxes as furniture

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