0:05

Okay, every single primetime

0:08

game, Yet we get prepared to enjoy

0:10

every time there's going to be a high scoring affair.

0:12

I promise you in the twenty twenty three fantasy

0:14

season, the fantasy guys are going

0:17

to take away a star player. We

0:19

lose Trevor Lawrence, we don't know for

0:21

how long he goes down with an ankle injury.

0:23

And Dylan I wish I had

0:26

more shock. I wish I had more to spare.

0:28

I'm just spent. It's been a season of this.

0:30

I was actually just more focused on

0:33

the excitement I have that Jake Browning

0:36

is somehow keeping Jamar Chase's fantasy

0:38

value afloat as well as the rest of the Bengals.

0:40

Jake Browning looked really really good. Gave

0:43

me case Keenum in Minnesota vibes.

0:45

So I'm just gonna focus on the positive because

0:47

we don't know the status of Trevor Lawrence at this

0:49

time.

0:50

Yeah, I mean, it's another

0:53

one. Write to the desk. You're right, we don't know exactly

0:55

what's happening with Trevor Lawrence, but it just seems like

0:58

it looked bad. It just seems like, man, you cannot

1:00

catch your break, like you built

1:03

this team right in the off season. You've got

1:05

Trevor Lawrence or Deshaun Watson or

1:07

Anthony Richardson or Joe Burris

1:10

Kirk. Well, no, I'm saying, like at the beginning

1:12

of the season, when you're building your quarterback room and it's just quarterback,

1:15

you've got those guys, and you're like, I got teylon

1:17

In Burrows my starting quarterbacks. That's someone

1:20

in the AU Club. I'm chilling right, no

1:22

worries at all. You know what. On top of

1:24

that, I've got Kirk Cousins as

1:26

my third quarterback. I'm chilling,

1:29

bro wiped out you want

1:31

to talk about completely wiped out?

1:33

Like that is someone in the AU club. He had,

1:35

He literally had, Joe Burrow, Trevor Lawrence,

1:37

Kirk Cousins is the third option.

1:39

Not just someone a former champion.

1:42

Was in the championship game last year and him

1:44

and Davis the Value King himself look

1:46

poised to meet up in the championship. He

1:48

was actually the highest score on the week tonight

1:51

and all he's doing is scrambling.

1:53

You try to get a trade done right before the deadline

1:55

at midnight. He actually did secure

1:58

the services of Jake Browning.

2:00

For way too pennies.

2:02

It was so dumb. We're going kind of below deck right

2:04

here, but it's just so relevant. The owner

2:06

of Jake Browning is like, I got a fourth round pick, and

2:08

we're like, you are an idiot. You might

2:10

have brock Purty. I'm not listen. I'm

2:12

not saying Jake Browning is

2:15

brock Purty. I'm not saying that. All

2:17

I am saying is ESPN

2:19

did a wonderful job on the broadcast pointing out

2:21

that his completion percentage, which I believe was

2:24

eighty three eighty six. I'm gonna do the math right now, he

2:26

was thirty two for thirty seven.

2:27

It was in the eighties.

2:29

It was in the eighties, and it was an all time record

2:31

for a backup quarterback in their first two stars.

2:33

While you're looking that up or doing

2:35

the math, let me just tell you, guys, if you

2:38

have a quarterback.

2:39

In eighty six percent eighty eighty

2:42

six.

2:42

Percent, I don't care. If it's the deadline, you

2:44

squeeze, you squeeze. You

2:46

do not give up a quarterback just for a fourth

2:49

and say, hey, here go continue to make your championship.

2:51

Like squeeze. I just

2:53

don't I thought he'd be a second

2:55

at least.

2:56

I was shocked. I was shocked, but.

2:57

Good third is better than a fourth. Two thirds you

3:00

could have got.

3:00

Two thirds anything good

3:03

trade for that owner. But more importantly, what

3:05

a surprising game. I really kind of

3:07

not that I ever dread a football game in primetime

3:10

other than for injuries, which we've you know,

3:12

we've had plenty of this season. But

3:15

I was like, Okay, it's the Bengals without

3:18

Joe Burrow, the Drevor

3:20

Lawrence hadn't been a Fantasy superstar this season.

3:22

I kind of thought that the Jacks were going to get ahead early

3:24

and salted away. Instead, we have

3:27

a thirty four to thirty one overtime

3:29

thriller. We have people who haven't

3:31

found the end zone all year find it in Evan Ingram.

3:34

He had a great ing Parker Washington.

3:37

Hey, I was gonna get well, okay, time out,

3:39

time out. The amount of Parker Washington

3:42

owners out there is going to be less than

3:44

Evan Ingram owners. Evan Ingram's been

3:46

great all season. He's best game

3:48

for Fantasy of the year, nine for eighty two and a touchdown.

3:52

There was so much to talk about. I mean, Joe Mixon

3:54

had an incredible game, Jamar, Chase looked dominant.

3:57

But then you also, like you already mentioned with Parker

3:59

Washing, you had some rookies

4:02

really show up, Parker Washington and then Chase

4:04

Brown for the Bengals.

4:05

Yeah, yeah, I mean Parker

4:07

Washington. I think that was a result of Christian

4:10

Kirk right getting hurt the testy twist at

4:12

the beginning. I think that like that

4:14

kind of set the tone for Parker

4:16

Washington to step up, Calvin Ridley to step up,

4:18

Evan actually Evan Ingram, Calvin Ridley

4:20

aside Evan Ingram, Parker Washington, if Christian

4:23

kirk plays, Who knows if either

4:25

of those guys irrelevant, because it's been proven that not

4:27

so. But Chase Brown was a nice kind

4:29

of pleasant surprise, I think coming out of the

4:31

backfield because we hadn't seen anyone

4:34

spell Joe Mixon and Joe Mixon still

4:36

had an incredible night. But Chase Brown,

4:38

man, he looked nice, He looked real

4:40

nice coming out of the backfield.

4:41

Showed burst. He went nine for sixty

4:43

one on the ground, so six point eight to carry very

4:46

different than what Joe Mixon brings to the table.

4:48

And as you see running back committees become more popular

4:50

in the NFL. If you're a Chase brown owner

4:53

and you somehow hung on to him through all of his

4:55

rookie season where he had done absolutely

4:57

nothing, that was nice to see. But let's get to the stars

5:00

and that's why people are really here. Jamar Chase

5:02

eleven for one, nine and one. I

5:04

was in a group text in a league I have Jamar

5:06

Chase. I have Jamar Chase in almost every single league

5:09

I play in other than the Yacht Club. Like it bothers

5:11

me that I don't have him there. I'm such a fan. I

5:13

said, this is going to be the type of game where Jamar Chase

5:15

has seven catches for twenty five yards, because

5:17

as the game started, they're just throwing him screen

5:19

pass, screen pass. I was like, uh oh, this is gonna

5:22

be like, you know,

5:24

twenty completions for Browning one hundred

5:26

and fifty yards and then all of a sudden, the seventy

5:29

plus bomb he catches, beats one on one

5:31

coverage. Jamar Chase, you can trust him

5:33

for the Fantasy playoffs, right, Not that it's going to be the

5:35

same level of Joe Burrow, but you're

5:37

no holds barred you're a static.

5:39

I mean, it doesn't look like it's dropping off too much,

5:41

right, I mean he had one of his better games

5:43

of the entire season, including with

5:45

Joe Burrow. I mean, he had his games with Joe Burrow, right.

5:47

But I think the thing about Jamar Chase is and

5:49

what he proved tonight is his quarterback proof. Right,

5:52

There's no matter what, as long as you can

5:54

give the quarterback, whoever it is, Jake

5:56

Browning or who

5:58

was the other quarterback to Brandon Allen, or whoever it

6:00

is that's back there, if you can give them time to just get

6:03

the ball to Jamar Chase, he's

6:05

gonna make plays. So I would say,

6:07

yes, you can trust Jamar Chase going into the playoffs,

6:09

regardless of who's playing quarterback. And Jake Browning

6:11

showed that he can do more than enough tonight,

6:13

especially a JAG's defense. It's not bad

6:16

like no, it's like it's not a bad

6:18

sick and Jake Browning made him look like I

6:21

don't.

6:21

Think I think they were shell shocked. I don't. I

6:23

just don't think they prepared for him to have that much confidence

6:26

and poise. Browning once again thirty two

6:28

for thirty seven three fifty one and one and

6:30

then twenty two rushing yards and another score

6:32

on the ground.

6:33

So he will say, I will say,

6:35

Browning, he'd better be giving a nice thing to that

6:37

offensive line in Joe Mixon, because without

6:39

Joe Mixon and Chase Brown, the running game

6:41

in general was opened to support.

6:43

It opened it all up for him, and they were able to run

6:45

efficiently, which opened it up downfield. Yeah,

6:48

I mean this Bengals offense. I'm

6:50

still not in on T Higgins.

6:51

I don't think well that was really I

6:54

wanted to pause on that. He was three for thirty six

6:56

and so three hundred and fifty. You know, passing

6:59

yards are thrown and Chase Brown is

7:01

more relevant for fantasy than T Higgins. And everyone

7:03

is talking about how relevant

7:05

T Higgins is going to be when he hits free

7:07

agency because both he and Tyler Boyd, which.

7:09

Is oh wo whoa, whoa whoa, do not slander

7:11

T Higgins. Now, I'm not gonna slander T Higgins.

7:15

No, no, no, I want to bring up the play because it was so funny.

7:18

Tyler Boyd. Dude, the

7:20

play. If you had didn't watch the game, go

7:23

look up Tyler Boyd interception. They

7:26

throw Tyler Boyd a backwards pass to

7:28

then set up like a trick play where he throws to Joe Mixon.

7:31

He threw it dead straight

7:33

like he looked at scrimmage. It

7:36

was hilarious. It

7:38

was and that and what's great is if I don't play fantasy

7:40

football, I don't watch this Monday night game, I don't get

7:42

to enjoy that. So that's what makes it great. But getting getting

7:45

back to T Higgins, and you know, away

7:47

from the comedy that was that Tyler Boyd play

7:51

this season, you're not worried about it. It's a wash.

7:53

You're not really competing with T Higgins. But let's

7:55

just speculate for a second, how can

7:57

and where can it get better? You know, there's a

8:00

lot of offenses that would be dying for the services

8:02

of a potential wide receiver.

8:05

One the obvious

8:07

ones to me are Kansas City. Is there any other place

8:09

you can see T Higgins going where he's going to be more

8:12

fantasy relevant than he is with a very good

8:14

offense in the Bengals.

8:16

The Bills, I mean, any any other

8:18

contender.

8:18

I think he You think he with

8:20

if Stefan Diggs is still there, you think T Higgins is

8:23

getting.

8:23

At Maybe who

8:25

do they have there? I mean they have Kinkaid now, but I

8:28

mean who said Stefan Diggs is going to be there? They've had

8:30

so much drama around Stefan Diggs. I'm

8:32

just saying hypothetically, you have to wear Yeah,

8:36

there's a lot that would have to happen, but I mean the bills.

8:38

I think he would be fine in I think.

8:40

He's destined for Carolina. I gotta be honest,

8:42

and I think he's.

8:43

Destined for Houston. Houston would also

8:45

be a perfect landing spot for him.

8:47

C J.

8:47

Stroud, are you kidding me? Like, if he's doing it with Nico

8:50

Collins, I think T Higgins is a much more talented

8:52

wide receiver than Nico Collins.

8:54

You have completely turned on Nico Collins.

8:56

No no, no, no, no. That's not an anti. That's

8:58

not an anti Nico. That's just saying

9:01

it's the facts, Like T Higgins is a more gifted

9:04

wide receiver. Nico cons is still good.

9:06

That's fair. Well, let's get to the biggest news of the night,

9:08

which is the Trevor Lawrence injury. You know, I was on

9:10

the phone with Mike actually when it happened because, like

9:12

we've mentioned before, we kind of play in two leagues with Mike,

9:15

and in one of them, it's a four point touchdown

9:17

league, and he did something bold.

9:20

He started the season with Trevor Lawrence and

9:22

Tua. He has since traded both

9:24

away to upgrade his picks, his

9:26

wide receivers and his running backs, and he is running

9:29

with the likes of Sam Howell, Gardner,

9:31

Minshew, Jake Browning, and

9:34

I think one other like no

9:36

name like backup QB. And his whole

9:38

thought is in four point touchdown, quarterbacks

9:40

are the new running back. Trevor Lawrence

9:43

was having one of the best nights he's had. Last

9:46

week was his best week. He may have had a better night

9:48

tonight. However, he gets

9:50

injured. He gets rolled up. It looks like a high ankle sprain

9:53

at the very least, I don't know how long he'll be out.

9:55

I'm only speculating, But is

9:57

their merit to Mike's strategy, especially

10:00

in four point touchdown? Is quarterback at this point

10:02

the new running back, not simply because of injury,

10:05

but because of volatility.

10:06

Yeah, this is a conversation we need to have. I

10:09

mean, you're looking at I don't remember the total off the

10:11

top of my head, but it's what like eight or nine.

10:15

Just starting, Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson,

10:18

Kenny Pickett, Trevor Lawrence Kerk,

10:21

Joe Burrow, Kirk Cousins. That's

10:23

seven right now.

10:24

Anthony Richardson eight like,

10:26

so like the list goes on, right, I mean, that

10:29

is ridiculous. I mean, we've

10:31

got Danny DeVito, Tommy DeVito.

10:34

Oh, Daniel Jones, there's nine, Dana Jones,

10:37

but you've got Danny DeVito starting. You've

10:39

got Jake Browning starting, You've got

10:43

the Roulette of quarterbacks in New

10:46

York starting of the Jets. You

10:48

know, there's so many situations out

10:50

there that you're just like holy smokes,

10:52

Like, I think the priority

10:55

of getting a quality backup quarterback,

10:57

even a young quarterback. I think here's

10:59

what I would do. I don't know if this is what's gonna happen in the

11:01

NFL, but I would This year's quarterback

11:03

class coming in right, it's stacked. It's

11:06

from what we know, what we expect of. Who's to declare

11:09

what? Why not go and get a young quarterback

11:11

to at least sit behind your superstar? Like even

11:13

if you have to go get him in the second, late second, third

11:15

round, like the economic Jalen

11:17

Hurts.

11:18

I mean everyone thought that it was really weird that they

11:20

drafted Jalen Hurts when they had Carson Wentz

11:22

on a long term deal.

11:23

I think you've got to start thinking, don't you think, Like

11:25

as an NFL franchise, you've got to start thinking long

11:28

term instead of just having these like these

11:30

guys that you hope are good, like Jake brown

11:32

They got lucky with Jake Browning.

11:34

No, I mean, you know, it's someone they

11:36

developed. I don't know. I would simply

11:38

say that the NFL is changing

11:41

in a lot of ways, and there's this belief

11:43

that the game is safer now and like

11:46

we're taking all the violence out of it, and there's that's

11:48

a separate conversation. But when I look at

11:50

this many injuries, I'm these

11:52

guys are just getting more athletic defenders and off,

11:54

you know, offensive people. I think they're gonna

11:56

have to increase roster sizes because this many star

11:59

players going down. I thought last year was

12:01

the worst year we ever had. Like last year was like the year

12:03

of the backup quarterback. It's this year, it's

12:05

it's happening more and more every year because quarterbacks

12:08

are also being asked to be more mobile than ever

12:10

before.

12:11

And so I that's part of it for

12:13

sure. So let me let me ask you this when

12:15

it comes to I mean, Mike referenced

12:17

the philosophy of not quarterback

12:19

by committee, but similar to like the running

12:21

back by committee. Like we've talked about the philosophy

12:24

of something that I've been pretty pretty adamant

12:26

about, is like why why build around running

12:28

backs? Obviously and super flex

12:31

quarters, quarterbacks have a more significant

12:33

value.

12:34

But especially if it's six point touchdown, especially

12:36

six touchdown. Yes, this would not

12:38

work. I've done the myth.

12:40

Yeah no, no, no, I mean you exactly. But most people,

12:42

a lot of people play in a four point touchdown

12:45

league. So how do we treat

12:47

quarterbacks moving forward? Do you kind

12:49

of maybe wait a little

12:51

longer on quarterback if you're in a startup,

12:55

if you have so, let me ask you this. Actually, let me ask you this.

12:57

If you're in the first round, are you more likely

12:59

than to take ajmar Chase, A Justin Jefferson,

13:02

Oh yeah, or one of those guys earlier on.

13:04

I think it's very similar. The best running

13:06

back strategy in my mind has always been hero running

13:09

back. You take a McCaffrey take, you

13:11

take a Saquan McCaffrey, a Nick Chubb.

13:13

I know I got injured, but like, and then you take

13:16

low level guys, you don't try to grab the second one

13:18

in kind of those middle rounds because they're not that big

13:20

of an upgrade from the guys you reached on in

13:22

leagues. I had success this year, specifically

13:24

best ball, I went like Christian McCaffrey as

13:27

my running back. I went, you know,

13:29

I'm trying to think Eckler. Unfortunately that didn't

13:31

work out so great. But then

13:34

it was Raheem Moster, Davon a Chan like that was my most

13:36

common stack to grab at the back, Antonio

13:38

Gibson, Brian Robinson. Those were

13:40

guys I grabbed for cheap at the quarterback

13:42

position. Going into this year, you go ahead.

13:45

No, I'm sorry, I don't want to ruin your flot but listen. Listen

13:47

to the top ten quarterbacks that were drafted right

13:50

earlier this season. This is the top ten quarterbacks

13:52

that were drafted in fantasy and in fantasy yeah

13:55

yeah, Patrick Mahomes even

13:57

him were like.

13:58

He's a quarterback. Ten On the season right now.

14:00

You're not stoked, right, you're not stoked. Jalen

14:03

hurts. Jalen hurts, You're fine with makes sense, Josh

14:05

Allen. You're fine with Lamar Jackson.

14:08

I mean he's twelve on this season. Jordan

14:11

Love has been better. We'll talk about it later.

14:13

Joe Burrow. Justin Herber,

14:16

Yeah, dude, that's what I'm saying. Injury included,

14:18

like this is this is still a bummer fair

14:22

Justin Herbert, I mean he's trending, not in a great

14:24

direction. Justin Fields?

14:28

How dare you? How dare you?

14:30

Sir? Nothing needs if you said

14:32

there anyways, Trevor Lawrence, Deshaun Watson,

14:34

I mean, Dak Prescott to a tack about Aaron

14:36

Rodgers like holy smah,

14:38

and Daniel Jones and Kirk Cuss, oh bro,

14:41

Like that's literally half of the top fourteen

14:43

fifteen quarterbacks that were drafted this year.

14:45

You're shambles.

14:47

Yeah, no, I it's been a bad year for quarterbacks.

14:49

If you took a quarterback early, unless their name

14:51

was Josh Allen, you're just really unhappy. And

14:53

Jalen hurts, Yeah, no,

14:55

that's true, that's true. Jalen hurts, Josh Allen

14:57

seemed to be returning on the investment. But that

15:00

is pretty much it. Going back

15:03

to the Jags. Just as we kind of wrap up this

15:05

this game recap, traves ETN found

15:07

the end zone again. The guy feels like

15:10

Alvin Kamaro reincarnate. Just turned back the

15:12

clock. It's on the ground, it's through the air. He's

15:14

shifty, he finds a way to keep the feet moving.

15:17

You're stoked if you have him. Not too much to

15:19

talk about there. The Christian Kirk versus

15:21

Calvin Ridley debate, I think is over. Christian

15:23

Kirk's the consistent one. Calvin Ridley,

15:26

in fairness, did have a like

15:28

an incredible catch called back like it's

15:30

super long played from C. J. Beth third because

15:32

of penalty, but eight targets and almost

15:34

nothing to show for it.

15:35

Only he outplayed by Parker Washington

15:38

and Zay Jones.

15:39

I don't understand how and why they use him

15:41

and for dynasty purposes. I don't

15:43

love his future prospects at all.

15:45

And he's a free agent this offseason, so he's not

15:48

the odds of him being a Jaguar are very

15:50

very low. So I mean, I mean, that's

15:52

a guy you could see maybe go to the

15:54

Kansas City Chiefs. I think that's where

15:57

he could revive his career.

15:59

But other than that, I mean, I'm nervous. He's

16:01

already he's on his rookie contract still, but

16:04

he's already twenty nine.

16:05

That's crazy to me. Yeah, that's that's

16:08

such a unique story.

16:09

But he came in old. Or he's twenty eight, sorry, but

16:11

he'll be twenty nine by the next season. By next season.

16:13

CJ. Bethard obviously didn't have

16:16

enough time to show us what he could really do, but

16:18

the drives we did see were mostly encouraging.

16:21

I would say, Trevor Lawrence being out, what

16:23

does that do to this offense as a whole? Is it a bump for

16:25

traves 'sien or is this just a net negative

16:28

for the entire roster?

16:29

Well, I mean two weeks ago, if he would ask

16:31

me, it's about Jake Browning, it's down for everyone.

16:33

Right. So at this point, given how

16:36

the NFL's kind of played out with quarterbacks, I

16:38

legitimately have no idea. I don't and I

16:40

know that's not great to say. It's like a fantasy analyst,

16:42

But like, I'm not going to downgrade everyone

16:44

immediately because you just don't. I think that would be the wrong

16:47

overreaction.

16:48

And yeah, I would actually agree with

16:50

you in the sense that, hey, you

16:52

know, don't panic trade any of them. I

16:54

mean, deadlines should be coming up, if not if

16:56

not passed, But I wouldn't panic trade any

16:58

of these guys going into playoffs. Because how much

17:00

of a downgrade for fantasy purposes is

17:02

c J. Beller. Maybe there's a world where gamescript

17:05

wise, they're chucking it all over the place now

17:07

because they can't control the game from in front, because they're

17:09

just not as efficient. So for fantasy, I'm not

17:11

saying it for NFL purposes, but for fantasy might

17:13

actually be better. We really don't, Yes, and

17:15

don't Lawrence has not been great?

17:17

Yeah, correct, Yeah, And don't get cute like we're

17:20

heading in the playoffs. Word to the wise,

17:23

don't get cute. Start your studs, like, honestly,

17:25

you don't want to lose a championship because you try

17:27

to get cute. And you sit what

17:31

you're gonna sit, Travelt and you're gonna sit

17:33

like you know, Okay, but I sat Joe

17:35

Mixon this week.

17:38

Okay, well that's you. Okay, time out, let's pause.

17:40

That's just you needing to get something off your chest.

17:42

Like that's that you just projected everyone.

17:44

I thought you were talking to

17:46

the likes of like a Garrett Wilson and

17:48

Evans.

17:50

I'm starting gear Wilson, Like if you sit

17:52

at Garret Wilson, like, you're not gonna

17:54

start at Garrett Wilson. Who are you starting over at Geart

17:56

Wilson. Are you starting? You're not starting T Higgins,

17:58

that's for.

17:59

Sure, Stark Parker

18:01

Washington. I wish you know, like.

18:03

No one's ever doing that.

18:04

But are you starting in playoffs

18:07

and you need to win? I would take a shot

18:09

on a Noah Brown over at Garrett Wilson in the right

18:11

situation if I knew Noah Brown was gonna start in

18:14

the right situation. Are you starting?

18:15

Are you starting? Really? No? Are you starting

18:17

Jayden Reid over like Garrett Wilson?

18:20

If I know Christian Watson, that's Christian Watson out?

18:22

Yeah I might. Yeah.

18:23

Now if Zach Wilson's back at QBU, we

18:25

could get into that. But an incredible

18:28

game on Monday night, very

18:30

unfortunate news. You hate to see another

18:32

young star in the NFL go down. Not good

18:34

for the business. But we'll just see what these backups

18:36

can keep producing. We're gonna take a quick break

18:38

and come back with a little all aboard and overboard.

18:41

You know, I've taken a lot of crap

18:44

from you, Dylan, in regards to Justin Fields,

18:46

my love blah blah blah. But the other quarterback

18:49

who I've tied my fate and my reputation to

18:52

is none other than the starting,

18:54

future Hall of Fame quarterback for

18:56

the Green Bay Packers, mister Jordan Love.

18:59

I hold you. At the beginning of the season,

19:01

he could have a mediocre season and

19:04

the comparisons to Aaron Rodgers and

19:06

Brett Farvre would be there. They have been

19:08

there in space. And oh, by the way, turns out

19:10

he's actually also really good at the football,

19:12

Okay, because guess what he's coming off

19:14

back to back wins over the Detroit

19:17

Lions, one of the NFC's best, and

19:19

the Kansas City Chiefs, the defending champs,

19:21

no slouches whatsoever. So, Dylan,

19:24

all aboard, overboard, are you ready to admit

19:27

that my bold season prediction

19:29

was correct, that Jordan Love has in fact arrived

19:32

and should be seen as a top ten dynasty

19:34

QB.

19:35

All right, all right, all right, talk your talk and listen.

19:37

You can have the victory lap on this one. I'll

19:40

hear it. I'll listen to it, because yes,

19:42

I am all aboard. I'm all aboard

19:45

the Jordan thanks train. That is the show.

19:47

We're good.

19:49

No, I mean, if I'm being completely honest, that was a

19:51

whiff. I mean, I just there was some inconsistencies

19:54

early on. We saw it, right, we saw that first

19:56

three games. I think it was where he had a solid three game

19:58

stretch and then with kinsm fall off gets shaky.

20:01

But yeah, we five to eight was not

20:03

fun. It was not fun.

20:04

No, it wasn't and it was not looking great. But I

20:06

mean something's clicking. They went and

20:08

they went where they are at home, but they went and

20:10

played Kansas City, and I

20:12

mean that's a good defense. That's a Spagnola

20:15

defense. That is good. Right. We saw

20:17

what they did to Miami, one of the top scoring

20:19

offenses in the league, and for Jaden

20:22

or for a Jordan loved to go out there

20:24

and dismantle it. Oh really

20:26

he.

20:26

Talked about the Kansas City, the Kansas City

20:29

defense, what they did to Miami.

20:31

God, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm saying the Spagnola

20:33

defense. Yeah, what the Spa defense did

20:36

to Miami.

20:37

And that's actually a great point. That is a great point.

20:39

Yeah, that's like one of the top offenses in the league.

20:41

And then really, well the Packers.

20:43

To go in and I mean, how many times

20:45

in the if you watch the game, did you hear them say

20:47

last night, man, this offense one of the youngest

20:49

offenses in the league. And it's and

20:51

that's very true, and like the spottings

20:54

should have been anticipated. Go ahead.

20:56

I feel like dynasty owners loved that, Like how

20:58

many times have you gone on your cutter

21:00

Dynasty day, Like I'm the youngest average age

21:02

team league, Like that's such a dynasty

21:05

nerd, Like I love that they.

21:06

Put no

21:08

no, but I mean that's and that's just it. The fact that they're

21:10

a young team. You've got Jayden Reed, Dan

21:12

Tavian Wicks, Malik Heath who showed

21:15

up, Christian Watson who Christian

21:19

yeah not good,

21:21

mustgrave Craft like and then Love

21:23

and it's just it's it really is, like

21:26

I'm a believer in love and what they can

21:28

do in that offense because of how well this team,

21:30

this core, this young core is progressing.

21:33

Yeah, Matt Lafleur, I don't think it's enough credit for

21:35

being a great offensive mind. As

21:37

long as Aaron Rodgers was there in Green Bay, he

21:40

was gonna get more of the shine.

21:41

You know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, well, I

21:43

mean I think Jordan Loved to me like he

21:45

just I don't know, man, And it

21:48

kind of I don't like ever jumping

21:50

to an extreme. So I'm like, oh,

21:52

he's the next Brett forever Aaron Rodgers. And

21:54

I feel like that's detrimental to him. That shouldn't

21:56

be fair to That's not fair to him.

21:58

No, and and and frankly, it's

22:00

unwise to and I actually don't believe that. I

22:02

don't think you can give him that credit yet.

22:04

I'm just I was betting on what the NFL

22:07

media was going to do because it's it's right

22:09

there. It's such an easy storyline

22:11

to pick up. But whether or not he produces

22:13

at that level that I mean, those are

22:15

two incredible quarterbacks who did it consistently

22:17

over a long period of time. Why I'm

22:19

excited about Jordan Love, it's actually

22:21

the receiving options around him maturing. I think

22:23

that was what was holding him back in weeks five through eight. Frankly,

22:26

I think it's why Rogers had more of a down year last season.

22:29

They did not seem to be able to make clutch

22:31

plays. You didn't know who was your go to guy. It

22:33

seems like it's all of them in green Bay, But I

22:35

want to jump to the other side. As reliable

22:38

as green Bay receivers have

22:40

seemingly become, Romeo Dubbs had a big catch.

22:42

Christian Watson had to dominate. We actually before

22:44

we do Christian Watson last two

22:46

weeks and was like, oh my gosh, the Christian

22:48

Watson that we thought, could you know emerge

22:51

this year is starting to happen. End

22:53

of the game, takes an end around and

22:56

tweaks his hammy. He's already struggled with hamstring

22:58

injuries. I don't know what league are, what chat I was in,

23:00

but I was like, this just is Will Fuller all

23:03

over again.

23:03

If you remember, do.

23:04

You remember Will Fuller on the Texans seat,

23:06

It was like he's the best ever. And at

23:08

the end of the game he tweaked his ankle, he tweaks his samstring, he

23:10

tweaked whatever, and it was always like Moore to two games

23:13

out.

23:13

Yeah, here's what ruined the career for Phil

23:15

Fuller.

23:17

Yeah, dude, it's brutal. It's brutal.

23:19

So yeah, it is. And I think for Christian

23:21

Watson it's just it's a bummer man. Like

23:24

we we see the potential there and he, I

23:26

mean, he balls out. It took him a little bit to even

23:28

get going with love because during that that

23:30

rough stretch is when Watson came back and

23:33

I was a little worried. I was like, man, is he throwing off

23:35

love? And then they just started clicking, and so

23:37

I mean, I hope he can stay healthy and if he can, oh,

23:40

man, like he he's going to be a

23:42

weapon. Like he's a stud. He's

23:44

a freaking athlete. He's fast. It's just

23:46

so fast and big insane question for

23:48

you before we move on from love. So

23:52

it's all aboard overboard top

23:54

ten. You bought, You're over,

23:57

You're allard. I'm all aboard

24:00

hot ten, which is audacious because who's getting

24:02

kicked out? Is it a Dak Prescott?

24:04

Is it a Kyler Murray?

24:06

Is yes?

24:08

I think so that was my first man out. It was gonna

24:10

be Kyler Murray, like it's got to be.

24:12

And frankly, I think you could make an argument

24:14

against Lawrence right now. I really do. And

24:16

that's not because once again, this isn't NFL.

24:18

I'm talking I'm talking fantasy, and

24:20

Trevor Lawrence has yet this injury sucks,

24:23

has yet to put together a fantasy

24:25

relevant season, more relevant than the one Jordan Love

24:27

is currently having. So yeah,

24:30

I mean, I don't want to get too much into the we say.

24:32

It out loud and then I kind of go back. I don't know if I'm

24:34

all aboard on the top ten only because

24:37

here's here's my here's my caveat that I'll

24:39

add he doesn't have a contract, he

24:41

does not have a long term contract.

24:43

Now works on the off season, and I think

24:45

he's auditioning. Well I can,

24:47

I will say tentatively all aboard,

24:50

but if he for yeah, I mean that's kind of.

24:51

A well, you know, if he doesn' get a long term contract, that's gonna

24:54

be convinsed, gonna be very yeah.

24:56

No, I wanted to talk about the other

24:58

side of that game because we've talked abo quarterbacks a lot.

25:01

But Patrick Mahomes, obviously,

25:03

Patrick Mahomes still are one oh one, my one

25:05

on one of Dynasty startup KBS, like he feels

25:07

like the safest thing in the world. Having a down year. He's only

25:09

the quarterback ten Can we get

25:11

that man a receiver? Like It

25:14

is so infuriating to talk in

25:16

fantasy about like offensive

25:18

situations like we've never seen Patrick

25:20

Mahomes be in an offense

25:22

that's having to figure it out.

25:24

It always seems seamless. It always seemed like the Chiefs

25:27

were the next step ahead, and watching that

25:29

game in primetime, I was like,

25:31

Holy cal that the Packers have

25:33

a more robust wide receiver room

25:35

and part of that, obviously is Travis

25:38

Kelcey. So my next all aboard overboard, I

25:40

want to ask you, Dylan, is is it

25:42

now? Travis Kelsey had a fine game, a

25:44

fine game for fantasy, and he's

25:46

still the tight end one on the season, but he

25:49

clearly isn't enough to keep the entire Chiefs

25:51

offense going like he was last year? Is

25:53

it time to retire Travis Kelcey

25:56

and Kyle Pitts in Dynasty?

25:58

I'm gonna throw let's focused on Kelsey

26:00

in the Chiefs for a second. Throw. You

26:03

know, we're going kind of hot, and we're going the aged

26:06

superstar who's still producing, but it

26:08

doesn't look like he can do it for much longer. And

26:10

the eternal youth and hope of

26:13

the Unicor. Yeah.

26:15

No, yeah, man,

26:18

I mean I think for a couple of weeks

26:20

now, I may have said it passively. I haven't

26:22

been like, you know, super

26:25

obnoxious about it. But Travis

26:27

Kelcey is on the decline. I know that's

26:29

blasphemous to say in the fantasy world, but

26:32

it's true. I

26:34

think people are it's become people are coming

26:36

more hip to it. But I think what you're

26:38

starting to see is Travis Kelcey just doesn't have

26:40

the same effect that he has.

26:43

So I just to

26:45

me, it's time to move on. They're

26:47

they're up and coming tight ends that I

26:49

think it's time to move on. And if you can

26:51

flip Kelsey four plus still,

26:54

which is probably not likely depending

26:57

on who you're going for, but

26:59

maybe there is some one still holding out if you can flip

27:01

Travis kelce plus to get one of those Laporta's,

27:04

Kincaid's, whoever it is.

27:05

I don't think I don't think you can get that. You

27:07

can't get that straight up right now.

27:08

No, probably not for Laporta per Kincaid.

27:10

Maybe Okay, on

27:13

keep trade cut. Kelsey is the tight end

27:15

five, the tight end one is Laporta.

27:18

Hockinson is two. Number

27:21

three is Kincaid, Number four

27:23

is Andrews, and then it's Travis kelcey Kyle

27:25

Pitts somehow is still tight end

27:27

seven.

27:28

That's insane. Well, so going back

27:30

to Travis Kelce, I mean, the fact

27:32

that Travis Kelce isn't getting worked in the offense

27:34

is just destroying everyone

27:36

else around him, because the whole offense is

27:38

built on if you can't stop Kelsey, we'll just go Kelsey

27:41

Kelsey, Kelsey, Oh boom, over the top she

27:43

Rice or that NBS who has no hands.

27:45

But that's the point is the over the top Travis

27:47

Kelce dominates the middle of the field because

27:50

he's he finds the hole

27:52

in the zone. If you're not worried about getting

27:54

beat over the top because MBS doesn't have the

27:56

hands, that chief offense essentially,

27:59

I don't will say it's defunked. Isaiah Checko has been doing

28:01

along on the ground, but it's been hurting the

28:03

fantasy production of that entire offense.

28:06

Yeah, like Kelsey can't do Kelsey

28:08

things. He's just sort of a PPR.

28:11

And you know we should have seen this coming. The riding

28:13

was on the wall with the injuries and like

28:15

and and not to say like, I don't think maybe

28:18

injuries are still playing a part in it. I don't know, we don't

28:20

know. A lot of guys play banged up. But to me, it's

28:22

it's time to move on from Kelsey. If you have Kelsey,

28:25

even as a contender, if you can get someone

28:27

before the trade deadline, well that's

28:30

a good question, though I don't know.

28:33

I know he's still going to have his.

28:34

Games, and you know he's gonna have his games. I think you

28:36

ride it out for the rest of the season. So I'll say that.

28:39

But I mean that's taking a gamble

28:41

if you're a competitor to do that. If you're not, and you're

28:43

one of those wishy washy teams because of

28:45

Kelsey, I'm trying to move Kelsey

28:47

for McBride. Plus, I didn't hear McBride

28:50

in front of him and get.

28:52

And he's rising. That's but

28:54

that's where I draw the line. I'll be honest. I'll be honest.

28:56

Now the plus is interesting. I

28:58

think we make this mistake and I've certainly

29:01

done it. The

29:03

age you know, Oh, it's it's

29:05

all falling apart. The guy still

29:07

had an incredible week

29:10

compared to everyone else. It's just that we

29:12

expect Travis Kelcey to score two touchdowns a

29:14

game. What he did last season was a historic

29:16

base I believe he had he had ten

29:18

catches this last week. Let me double check right now.

29:21

Yeah, I didn't have that pulled up. Yeah

29:24

he was well, yeah he had. No,

29:27

he had four for five.

29:28

Forgetting sorry or you know he had he had

29:30

four for.

29:31

Eighty one four eight Yeah, sorry, that's what I meaning

29:33

for eighty one he.

29:34

Had ten Fantasy points, so he still had an

29:36

okay.

29:37

Game, which was four for eighty one five.

29:39

I mean, you're not used to seeing Travis Kelsey getting

29:41

five targets.

29:43

No, I'm I'm with you, man, that was a bad

29:45

game.

29:45

That's like in I mean, I

29:48

don't know. It's just i' me in Rashi

29:50

Rice getting nine targets, MBS no hands

29:52

getting five targets.

29:54

Like all I'm saying.

29:56

All I'm trying to say is pump the brakes on this. If

29:58

it's Laporta, obviously you get that deal

30:00

done. If it's Hockinson even

30:04

now.

30:05

No, no, yes, you're trading him

30:07

if you can get him straight.

30:08

Up, Yes, give Mark Andrews obviously in

30:11

my opinion. And then Kincaid,

30:13

I don't know that I would do it. I think

30:15

that's a little bit too much recency bias. McBride,

30:17

I don't know if I would do it. It depends on the

30:19

plus, It depends on.

30:21

I would do Kinkaid straight up. I would do kid

30:23

straight up. I would do kN k straight up. I

30:25

would want McBride plus you could probably get

30:28

Kinkaid, but I

30:30

would do I would do KINKG straight up. Honestly,

30:33

I would. And I know that sounds crazy. And

30:36

Travis kelseys Travis kelcey, but you know, we don't want

30:38

to be caught hold in the bag with Travis kelcey.

30:40

He's thirty three years old.

30:42

But if if the bag is another two years

30:44

of a top three tight.

30:45

End, does he play for another two years?

30:48

Like, I don't think the production

30:50

is just going like this, Like that's that's

30:52

the thing is, Like the production trailing off

30:55

is a concern. It is a major concern. He's not even

30:57

be four sped and like just not making

30:59

anything happened.

31:01

All I would say is this is if you climb up

31:03

to Mount Everest, the decline

31:05

is going to be cpure. There's a lot to decline

31:08

from, but you know, even two

31:10

thirds of the way down, you're still higher than most mountains.

31:12

And I think that's the problem with Travis Kelcey

31:15

was what I'm saying.

31:15

Is you broke back analogies.

31:19

What how is that broke back? Where

31:22

where in the

31:28

Mount Everest is the tallest mountain in the world.

31:30

It's what in the world is

31:32

that.

31:33

I'm simply saying that the descent from

31:36

three thirds, you know, Travis

31:38

Kelcey is on the mount rushmore of fantasy tight ends

31:40

might be the tight end fantasy one of all.

31:43

So you're telling me you're okay with being caught

31:45

holding the bag with Travis Kelsey certain

31:47

players.

31:48

I'm just saying it depends on the compensation

31:50

in return, because we're just hoping

31:53

Trey McBride is a third

31:55

of what Kelsey's career was. And I'm not

31:57

saying that. I'm not saying that his you know, you don't

31:59

get his whole career. That's not what I'm trying

32:01

to say. What I'm saying is simply Kelsey

32:03

could probably still be a top three tight end for

32:05

the next two years. He's clearly on the decline.

32:08

If it's Laporta absolutely, if

32:10

it's McBride, it just depends on the plus,

32:13

and it also depends on on championship

32:15

window. I don't want to overreact to the offense

32:17

struggling, because what if they do get a wide

32:19

receiver, he re ups and top Travis Kelcey

32:22

is right back to being the tight end one again next year.

32:24

Yeah, that's I just think if I have a chance

32:26

of getting younger and getting production,

32:29

I think I would take it. But I get what you're

32:31

saying.

32:32

The biggest thing for me on board with you.

32:34

I'm mostly on board with you. I'm just trying to provide a voice

32:36

of reason. I listen, I traded Travis Kelcey away in

32:38

Yat Club last year for a George Pickens plus.

32:40

Right, Obviously I'm in love with George Pickens. But like

32:43

I did this, and yet Travis

32:45

Kelcey is still way more solidified

32:48

as a fantasy asset you can trust than the George Pickens.

32:50

I'm still waiting on George Pickens to become who I want.

32:52

So that's still I'll.

32:55

Be I'll picket

32:57

problem might be it's

33:00

twenty two years old.

33:01

He doesn't have a ticket problem. Now he's got a truebisky

33:03

problem.

33:04

Well he's got a lack of a picket problem, but I

33:06

digress. Moving over to Kyle Pitts really quickly.

33:08

We've talked a lot about Travis Kelce. Kyle Pitts

33:10

somehow is still I just I

33:13

wasn't planning to talk about him on the show, but he, like

33:15

Michael Prewitt or McCole prewit,

33:17

I should say another tight end, another

33:20

tight end in Atlanta who's probably in a great NFL

33:22

player and deserves a lot of credit. He scored a

33:24

touchdown. Kyle Pitts did not. He's

33:27

still somehow key trade cut tight end seven.

33:30

There are ten tight ends I would rather have than Kyle

33:32

Pits right now. I think that is someone you have

33:34

to admit I was just wrong. If you're

33:36

throwing your taxi sqlod and you want to wait.

33:38

Good for you. It don't start him. It's two

33:41

years. It's the opposite of Travis Kelce. You're

33:43

just holding on to Kyle Pitts, Like at this point, why

33:45

would you sell him? Like you're not getting anything

33:47

for him, Like unless you can fool someone

33:49

into trick them into talking

33:52

about his youth and how is a unicorn and how

33:54

it's just an Arthur Smith problem video.

33:56

You could totally sell him like

33:59

jazzing all that up, but the bottom line is

34:01

just hold on to him, like, hold on to him

34:03

because the least it can't get any

34:05

worse than what you're getting from him right now. So I

34:08

think you could probably pick up someone off the waivers and start

34:10

over him and be better off, maybe one of those other

34:12

tight ends in Atlanta.

34:13

But I think there's still a market for him

34:16

because even as early as last year, right after

34:18

the expansion draft got done, I called the Kyle

34:20

Pitts owner in yacht club and I was like, it was

34:22

just a down year, maybe he's low, and the

34:24

Pits owners like, man, it would take at least two first, and I

34:26

was like, I've got I do a first, Like

34:29

even last year, I was like, I'll do it first, I get Kyle

34:31

Pitts. Man, if I just waited one season,

34:33

like if I'd done that trade and then this year had happened

34:35

and Laporta breaks out and Kinkaid breaks out, Jake

34:37

Ferguson shows that, I feel like a fool.

34:39

So I mean,

34:42

so.

34:42

I don't even know what I would move off of Pitts for, Like

34:45

I just I don't know how value aim

34:47

any first. Well, yeah, I get the first.

34:50

You can get any first, if you can get any first.

34:52

But I mean, like we mentioned Travis Kelcey

34:54

and we're saying like, oh McBride plus and

34:56

Kinkaid plus, Like I wouldn't even consider

35:01

I can't say that. Would you consider Pitts

35:03

in a first for Kelsey Frick?

35:06

Yeah? I mean absolutely. That

35:08

seemed it sounds like a yes. Yeah.

35:10

At first you're like yeah, and then you're like, wait, I'm but

35:14

a single first for Kelsey if you're

35:16

not a contender, Yeah, absolutely,

35:18

I mean you you know what, Travis Kelcey died

35:20

on your roster. Yeah, if you're not a

35:22

contender and you need to get younger, I'll take

35:24

the dice roll on Kyle Pitts that

35:27

it works out somewhere Arthur Smith somehow gets fired,

35:29

which I don't think happens. I think that they win.

35:31

That it's terrible, but

35:33

yeah, it's those are difficult

35:36

players to value, and I think specifically the Chiefs

35:39

they're difficult for fantasy this season. They're they're

35:41

a stal war organization that usually

35:43

if you just get any piece of that

35:45

offense, you're still can she Rice has had relevant games

35:47

to say, but Check's having a good year. Mahomes

35:49

is still fantasy relevant, just not nearly

35:52

as relevant as he normally is. But

35:54

for dynasty purposes, you

35:56

are at that inflection point with

35:59

whether or not.

35:59

You want to a nice little

36:01

plug there, Travis Kelsey, I mean,

36:04

another dude. The biggest the biggest

36:07

whiffs from the fantasy community have

36:09

been Kyle Pitts and Trey Lances

36:13

as of recent I'm not saying

36:15

like in the eternity, but like that, those are two

36:17

guys that just like, oh, that's Zach

36:20

Wilson.

36:21

You know, maybe Jonathanmingez.

36:22

No one was really high on Zach Wilson, though fantasy

36:24

wise, it was just.

36:25

Because that's actually

36:27

true. Another player.

36:29

I want to know whether or not it's time to hang it up. It's the

36:31

end of the season for fantasy purposes, you

36:34

either in playoffs or out at this point pretty much there's

36:36

still some playing games people need to have. But

36:38

Austin Eckler used to be the guy that around this

36:40

time of year was carrying you to

36:43

victory and glory. His last three

36:45

games, supposedly fully healthy,

36:47

not on the injury report in any major way, six

36:50

points six point nine points. This is all half

36:52

PPR and three point seven. He

36:55

is currently the R being nineteen on

36:57

Keep Trade, Cut and falling fast.

37:00

Dylan, have you missed your chance

37:02

to sell Austin Eckler? And is it time

37:04

to retire in for fantasy purposes? Or is this just

37:06

a bad stretch and there's some sneaky value to still

37:08

be had.

37:09

We are such debbie downers on this episode.

37:12

Like it's literally like Doom's Day. We're literally

37:14

just preaching doomsday right now. Get

37:16

rid of all these players. They're hole there. But

37:19

we're gonna keep it rolling because yes, you need to get

37:21

rebuilding franchises.

37:22

You know what I mean, this is what

37:24

we do.

37:25

You think you guys are good because you have these old

37:27

players, Well be bad.

37:31

That's literally they would score more than my entire

37:33

roster combined. However I have

37:35

picked.

37:36

But I will have you know, but

37:38

yet, I mean, it's time, Tom, I'm worried

37:41

about Eckler and it's it's it's

37:43

may not even be an Eckler problem. It really

37:45

may not be. The Chargers of

37:47

the Chargers organization, but specifically the

37:49

Chargers offense is just wow,

37:52

it's just not good I mean even this pass game

37:54

and no, no, it was the Patriots, and you know

37:56

the Patriots have generally a pretty

37:59

good defense, but

38:01

Keenan Allen was a non factor. And if Keenan

38:03

Allen's not getting going and the passing game

38:06

isn't getting going, what do you expect

38:08

Eckler to do? Eckler couldn't even catch passes out

38:10

of the backfield. I mean, did you had had fourteen

38:12

carries for eighteen eighteen yards

38:15

two receptions from nine yards.

38:17

Like a twenty eight year old running back. Who's

38:19

clue? I mean, he had such an incredible run in the last two years.

38:21

You know his best years are behind you, unless he

38:24

like because those last couple of years,

38:26

which is so great. So the

38:28

question is simple, I mean, are you

38:30

you know your past the best point of his production?

38:33

Dellit is it time to retire? And is it time to move them

38:35

off? For almost any any value you can

38:37

gainoute.

38:37

If you can get a first for absolutely like

38:39

if you can get a first for us N Eckler, I don't know that

38:42

you can, even if it's a late first. If you can

38:44

get I may even get rid of Eckler

38:46

for two seconds like in.

38:48

Twenty four seconds. What about like you're talking about like a

38:50

twenty five first as well, even at twenty six for people

38:52

who trade twenty twenty six already twenty six.

38:54

Actually, yes, I know that's super

38:57

far in advance, but if you're trading them, yes,

38:59

I would get twenty six. What are you shaking

39:01

your head at? I would go and get twenty s three.

39:03

It's it's my Favorite's when I knew the Yacht Club

39:05

was going to be a thing. One of our owners

39:08

we were about to have our first ever rookie draft,

39:10

and he was like I want

39:12

to take He's like he's like, listen,

39:15

I'm taking arch Manning. This is right after

39:17

arch Manning first. This is like not a debutem

39:20

No, it's like twenty nineteen, like

39:23

arch Manning Justice, Like, oh there's a Manning playing

39:25

high school football, and he's like, I'm gonna take him with

39:27

my pick. I've got the I've got the pick. And I'm

39:29

like, you can't do that, Like we're

39:31

not, that's not the type of league that we're doing. It's

39:33

like, yes, we can, like, let me do this. And so at

39:35

that time, I was like, when is arch

39:38

Manning even going to be draft eligible?

39:40

I was like, I was like, it's

39:42

twenty twenty six, So twenty twenty six is

39:44

a draft class. I've always like, Hey,

39:47

twenty twenty six though, it's going to be the arch Manning

39:49

class.

39:49

Like arch Manning class.

39:50

Yeah, had it penciled out for years

39:53

now?

39:53

No, I I yes, I would going back

39:55

to Austin Eckler. I would trade him for

39:58

two first any any two first for are?

40:00

Sorry, that's a single first. At first you're

40:03

not getting to yeah, getting to first

40:06

any any first? Really? And then

40:09

two seconds any two seconds?

40:11

Honestly, I just I'm worried. I'm worried about

40:13

Austin Eckler. I really am.

40:14

I'm going to shock you with this one. I think he's

40:16

a sneaky, bilocatedidate. I think you

40:19

do. No, I just hear

40:21

me out, hear me out. We have to remember

40:23

how Austin Eckler's career started. This

40:26

bell cow, hyper utilized, incredibly

40:28

efficient, touchdown scoring running back. That

40:31

didn't happen for him right away. He didn't come into

40:33

the league that way. He was unknown. I believe

40:35

he was undrafted or he was a late round draft. I

40:37

don't know exactly his career history, but I

40:39

do know he came in behind Melvin Gordon and

40:41

he was the third down Yeah, okay,

40:44

so third undrafted, third down change

40:46

of pace running back who

40:48

just kept eating into Melvin gordon shares

40:50

and looked better and better than Melvin Gordon at

40:52

all times. We were chatting a little bit before

40:54

the show, and a player I think of

40:57

constantly, not constantly, but like I.

40:59

Remember Blue more than George

41:01

Dickens.

41:02

Yeah. No, Dion Lewis was the original George

41:04

Pickens for me, running back for the Patriots,

41:06

who then went to be a pass catcher for

41:10

the Titans and had relevance there.

41:12

I think that Eckler can find

41:14

relevance as a third down back on a contending

41:17

team, very similar to how Leonard Fournette

41:19

did when he went to Tampa Bay going away from Jacksonville.

41:22

Eckler takes incredible care of his body.

41:25

He's just a really intelligent guy. I actually

41:27

think he might be a bilocated now, don't

41:30

hear what I'm not saying? Are his best

41:32

years behind him?

41:33

Yes?

41:34

Can you trust him as your RB one going

41:36

forward for years to come? I think no. If

41:39

that's the question, my answer is no. But

41:41

am I ready to retire him? No?

41:44

Actually, if I was a contending team right

41:46

now, I would try to go see if I can get him for a single second

41:49

and roll into next year. If people are panicking, So

41:51

I think.

41:52

That there's I don't disagree with going if you're

41:54

continuing, if you can get him for a second.

41:56

I mean, I don't know about the rest of the season.

41:59

The Chargers. The Chargers are a nightmare.

42:01

But imagine if he went to the Chiefs, you may

42:03

have just a Jerick McKinnon role.

42:04

You know, you just you may have just convinced me. Because I'm

42:06

looking at his schedule and in the last

42:09

three games where Green Bay, Baltimore,

42:12

New England, green Bay, I

42:14

mean, I don't really have defense in there. Green

42:16

Bay is an alright defense. Pachecko just tore them

42:18

up. But Baltimore and New England,

42:21

I mean those are two very very good defenses.

42:23

And then he has Denver, Vegas Buffalo,

42:26

and then Denver again in the playoffs. Denver's a

42:28

good defense. So now I don't know

42:30

Miami.

42:31

Miami spank them.

42:34

So I mean, if you can go get him for a single second,

42:36

I guess you're right, But I mean I'm

42:38

just nervous about him. If he's your RB one,

42:41

I would be cheeks clenched cheeks,

42:43

and that's and if.

42:44

You're that owner, you're feeling it like, holy crap,

42:47

it's it's happening. He's dying on my roster. Get

42:49

him off, Get him off, get him off. All I'm saying is

42:51

hey, another player very similar to Travis

42:53

Kelsey, where it's like, if he retires on your roster, is

42:55

at really the end of the world, because who knows

42:58

how long you know the final

43:00

swan song is. It could be two more seasons. You

43:02

just don't know. Might as well squeeze it for all it's worth. I

43:04

just price isn't right.

43:05

The problem, the price isn't right. The problem

43:08

is I just it's not an Eckler problem.

43:10

It really is a Chargers problem. I just don't.

43:13

I don't know, like I don't. If

43:15

they can't get the passing game going, then I

43:17

just don't know that Eckler will be effected. But I mean,

43:19

if you can get him for a second, you know what, he can be

43:21

so sure. But if not,

43:24

and if he's your RB one, I'm

43:26

I'm scared. I'm nervous. I'm nervous if I were you.

43:29

Yeah, well, someone well

43:31

a player I should say a lot of owners, I don't know if

43:33

they were nervous about were very disappointed in until

43:35

this last week. I think we already made mention of it in the last

43:37

show. But DK Metcalf absolutely

43:40

woke up against the Dallas defense.

43:43

I'm just saying he who's saying there I was

43:46

nervous.

43:46

All I'm saying was I'm sure there were owners who were

43:48

disappointed for how the season was going for DK Metcalf

43:51

because he was having a very disappointing fantasy

43:53

season until he erupted against the Cowboys

43:55

three touchdowns, still only twenty five years old.

43:58

I know one of our assistant producers is

44:00

Stokes that we're finally talking about a Seahawk and

44:02

giving them some respect. DK Metcalf

44:05

has he re established himself as

44:07

a dynasty wide receiver one. We're talking top twelve

44:10

and keep Traycott. Are there twelve guys you'd

44:12

prefer over him, Dylan.

44:15

No, there's probably eight

44:18

to ten that I prefer over him. But

44:20

DK Metcalf. I've always been a big

44:22

fan of DK Metcalf. I always have. I thought

44:25

he's always been in Alpha one, regardless

44:27

of the quarterback. Gino Smith hasn't been playing

44:30

great. DK Metcalf was injured. I'm not worried

44:32

about how he started the season. He's healthy, he

44:34

proved it. He just tore up one of the best

44:37

defense's best DB's in

44:39

the league this past week. And

44:42

then that's our Cowboys, So you know that's painful.

44:44

But I mean we were in the game. He

44:47

did win the game, But I mean, DK is just

44:50

you just can't bet against a freak

44:52

athlete like that that can do what he does. And

44:55

to say that you would take ten

44:58

or twelve other guys over him, love to

45:00

hear those twelve because I don't

45:02

know that they've even proven to have the production that DK

45:04

Metcalf has. Last year was a down year

45:07

and he was still a top fifteen option.

45:10

Do you want to Garrett Wilson or DK

45:12

Metcalf and Dynasty Moore right now?

45:15

Right now? Yeah? The

45:18

talent. I love Garrett Wilson's talent. Yeah,

45:21

I think I'm I think I would go DK. Though,

45:23

I think I would go DK.

45:25

The ceiling, the ceiling, the unknown.

45:29

It's alluring, and that's the first time I've ever thought

45:31

about those two players. But I think I would take again.

45:35

It's the it's the ceiling that you're allured by. With

45:38

Crystal Lobby, I think I would.

45:39

Take the youth.

45:40

I'll take so the only receivers that I'm

45:42

taking over him, right, We've got Jamar

45:44

Chase, Justin Jefferson obviously, A

45:46

J. Brown ced again, No,

45:49

A J. Brown ceed lamb

45:51

st Brown, I mean

45:54

Tyreek Hill still, yeah, Tyreek

45:56

Kill still, Davante

45:59

Smith probably no,

46:01

Well, i'd take care at Wilson over hit over

46:03

DeVante Smith still. So, Chris

46:07

o'lave DeVante Smith

46:09

is such a triggy one. Yeah, Chris, Yeah, he's in there.

46:11

But I mean, bottom line.

46:14

I know we're missing someone obviously we are.

46:16

We are probably missing someone obvious, but I mean

46:18

all aboard. I mean I'm taking him as Are

46:20

you taking him as a as a top twelve dynasty

46:22

wide receiver?

46:24

Yeah? I think I am. And I'm surprised

46:26

that you were still in on it because I know you love some of

46:28

those more youthful guys.

46:29

But I mean, he's twenty five.

46:31

He's not old, no, but he

46:33

feels old because he's been in the NFL for so long. This is

46:35

kind of the Amari Cooper effect, you know, Amari Cooper

46:37

got into the league so young. It's like Mark

46:39

Cooper's on his tenth season in the NFL. It's like he's twenty

46:41

nine years old. It's like, what what happened?

46:43

We've been spoiled and DK hit early,

46:45

but we've been spoiled where like wide receivers

46:47

typically they don't hit, and we've talked about this, they

46:49

don't really take off usually until year two

46:52

or three. So we've been spoiled and he's been

46:54

good. So I'm just not worried about him declining at twenty

46:56

five.

46:57

No, it's not about that. It's more about the ceiling. It's

46:59

more about do you get with that consistent wide

47:01

receiver two ish production? Go. Remember Tyler

47:03

Lockett outscored him last year, so that

47:06

isn't necessary. DK isn't

47:08

usually a league winner on the season total,

47:11

but he can. He can have incredible games that

47:13

win you weeks, and he can have seasons that are

47:15

excellent. He finished his wide receiver five months

47:18

before, at least in our league scoring format. But

47:20

you know what it is. They convinced me, Mike Evans,

47:22

and I know this is seems unrelated.

47:25

Just had his tenth year of

47:27

one thousand yards at thirty

47:29

years old, and it felt like Mike Evans

47:32

has been so consistent and so good for fantasy,

47:34

but for like, since his age twenty seven season,

47:36

you kind of got sick of seeing a thousand yards

47:39

and five to seven touchdowns the occasional

47:41

ten touchdown season, and you kept chasing

47:43

the new hotness. I've know, I've done it in drafts. I

47:45

feel like DK is going to be that guy as well. I feel

47:47

like DK, even though I've seen him do it consistently be

47:50

a thousand yard receiver, you know, a chance

47:52

at double digit touchdowns every year. It's

47:54

like, Okay, do I take DK, or do I take this new rookie?

47:56

Do I take the Pukaakua? And frankly,

47:59

you know, Pokinaku's one, Like I think Pukku is,

48:01

Like, that's a really sexy name.

48:02

But do I feel I'm safe for I was gonna

48:05

bring He's ranked higher than him

48:07

on Keep Drake Cut.

48:08

Yeah, Tank Dell is I think as well. I'm sure.

48:10

Yeah, I mean you've got Tank del Jordan Addison.

48:12

Yeah, he's all over him.

48:14

He's uh, why did you

48:16

for fifteen?

48:17

On Keep Drake Cut?

48:17

I think Davonte Smith is also ranked ahead

48:20

of him. You know JSN JSN who's on his team

48:22

is ranked ahead of him, So.

48:23

I didn't see that till just now. That is

48:26

Oh no, he's right behind him. He's right behind him.

48:28

Oh he moved behind That changed, Yeah,

48:30

he's that changed since like two days ago.

48:32

So it's just crazy the volatility.

48:35

But I think it's one of those things

48:37

where you settle in and you get towards the end of the

48:39

fantasy season, which this is we're not there, but we're

48:41

coming in on the final stretch, right, and

48:43

you start to appreciate the consistent guys.

48:46

Off season and especially the preseason.

48:48

It's all about the new hotness. It's all

48:50

about who's breaking out, and

48:53

guys like DK Metcalf get forgotten about. They get

48:55

slept on, and they're going to get key to your

48:57

FATAUS championship ahead.

48:58

I'm going to get slammed for this,

49:00

but I literally am taking.

49:02

DK Metcalf pause before

49:04

you said this. You say this constantly, and they

49:06

are the most un like spicy.

49:09

It's like no, everyone thinks that. It's like really, it's like, yeah,

49:11

so this better be freaking good, dude. It's

49:13

like, I'm gonna get slammed for this, But Patrick

49:15

Mahomes the Dynasty QB one. It's

49:17

like, yeah, we all think that Dylan, no one, no

49:20

one disagrees with you. I'm

49:22

getting roasted.

49:23

Sets.

49:25

This needs to take a DK Metcalf over Jalen Waddle.

49:28

That's not once again, that's not controversial. It

49:31

is yes, you know how.

49:32

Many people are taking Jalen. I'm

49:35

looking at this list and DK Metcalf

49:37

for me, compared to keep dray Cut is probably

49:40

my wide receiver nine

49:43

eight or nine. And that's over Pukinakupa.

49:45

That's over Jalen Waddle. That's over Crystal Lave.

49:48

It's under Garrett. He's at the Garrett Wilson

49:50

line. And then right behind him, I have

49:52

Brandon Nyuk. I would probably take Brandon Nayuk.

49:56

I would take I'm sorry, I would take DK over

49:58

Brandon.

49:58

I would take I would take DK. About you, Yeah,

50:00

yeah, it's an interesting tier, but we just want

50:03

to give DK his flowers because he represents

50:05

a tier of player that often gets

50:07

overlooked. And so listen that

50:09

it's been an action packed show. This is going to do it

50:12

for the Dynasty Exchange, hopefully the

50:14

next primetime game we have. We're

50:16

hoping and praying, But we've been unsuccessful with this

50:18

all season. There's most likely going to be a

50:20

crazy injury, and we are just we're

50:23

very seasoned debt reacting to it.

50:24

For you, So get your quarterback handcuff.

50:26

Yeah, go pick up an unknown player

50:28

you've never heard of for any star player

50:30

you have. Go get the third string of whatever starter

50:33

you're relying on.

50:33

Go spend one hundred and seventy five fab on Brett Rippion.

50:36

Hey, that's hurtful. Imagine

50:39

if he had been Jake Browning. I'd look like a genius

50:42

with that. We were gonna let

50:44

you guys go. This has been the Dioce ex Change.