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Hey, Men's Ray

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listeners. Today, we're sharing something special

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with you. It's a preview from 48 Hours,

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one of the top true crime podcasts.

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On the 48 Hours podcast, you'll hear

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award-winning CBS News correspondents

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investigate shocking murder cases

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Okay, here's the clip. 48 Hours

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correspondent Peter Van Sand takes

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us back to the night of November 13, 2022, to the

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University of Idaho,

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the scene of the now infamous and chilling

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murders of four young students. Listen

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in as Van Sand speaks with

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a few family members of the victims.

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Moscow will

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forever be known as the scene of

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one of the most tragic crimes in American

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history. There's

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still sort of a darkness whenever you

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talk to people. It

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will be ever part of the university's

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history and the town's history. There

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are four very, very important names

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in this case. Kayleigh Gonsalves, Madison

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Logan, Zanna Kronodel, and Ethan Chapin.

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And if you're going to remember any names from this case,

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I ask that it be all four.

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My name is Olivia Gonsalves, and

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Kayleigh was my little sister.

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Everybody's going

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to work, and you look out the window, and there's kids running down the street

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laughing, and you're just like, how

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can you be out there playing? My daughter is dead.

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Kayleigh Gonsalves

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is gone. Stop

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everything. Everybody in the whole world,

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stop. And everything just keeps going. My

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sister, Zana Colonel, is

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one of the happiest, funniest

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people I've ever met. And

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I had the awesome

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privilege of growing up with her and I

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still have a hard time coming

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to terms with the fact that

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it happened.

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Frank Coburg is accused of stabbing

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these four University of Idaho students

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in the pre-dawn hours on November 13, 2022. The

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murder weapon, which was a knife, has never been

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found.

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This is a type of survival knife. Frank

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Coburger did not make his own

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plea. The judge entered a plea for

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him of not guilty.

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National penalties, life in prison,

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or the death penalty. Due

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to the nature of the crimes, the state of Idaho

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is seeking the death penalty. He was there

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to kill. He came in with a kit. I

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believe he had a kill kit. And you believe that

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everything right down to the implement

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of destruction, this large marine

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knife, that was all planned. All

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planned. It was inhumane.

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You wouldn't do these types of things to any

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living creature, let alone an innocent

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human being.

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In August of 2023, just

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six weeks before the murder trial of Brian

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Coburger was set to begin, he

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waved his right to a speedy trial.

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Should we have a bigger? Absolutely.

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They would have to wait indefinitely for

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their day in court. I

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was really hoping that we

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could get this show on the road because

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the not knowing,

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it just, it's agony. It's

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agony.

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Steve and Kristie, the parents of

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Kaylee, haven't left anything

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to chance. The judge issued

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a gag order to attorneys and

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law enforcement to preserve

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the right to a fair trial. trial, they

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drilled down on their own investigation

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and are now sharing what they believe that investigation

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found. Steve says

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he believes transparency is

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the best path to justice.

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We're not going to just sit back and

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cross our fingers and pray that we're going to get justice.

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It has been a long and painful journey

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for the families of Kaylee Gonzalez,

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Maddie Mogan, Zana Kernodle

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and Ethan Chapin. Do you ever

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dream of your sister?

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Yeah, I've had some dreams of her. There's

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times where I prayed and

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asked God to see her again other time and

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I did and

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she gives me some peace knowing that I

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know she's okay.

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Jasmine Kernodle, who is speaking

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for the first time, was a senior

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at Washington State University and

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lived only 15 minutes away

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from her younger sister Zana. Often

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mistaken as twins growing up, she

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says they were best friends. She

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was always fun and she was uplifting and

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she took any bad

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situation

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and turned it into a good one. Jeff,

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what did you love most about your

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daughter?

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Everything. She

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cared about people. She

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was a people person, cared about

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her friends, just as much as

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like her family. For the first

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time in her life, Zana had

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fallen in love with fellow student

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Ethan Chapin, a triplet who

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loved his siblings, boats and

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working on a tulip farm. The

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sweetest kid ever. They were just

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two happy people and

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there's just seeing the videos and photos of

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them. You can just like tell how happy they are.

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They're just amazing together. Sadly,

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they will now forever. ever be linked in

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death. On

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Sunday morning, November 13th, Zana's

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friends started calling Jasmine, saying

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something bad had happened on

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King Road. Jasmine rushed

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over to Zana's house. And

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while you're driving that eight, nine miles

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over to the house, are you trying to reach your sister

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then? Mm-hmm. How many times do you call her?

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A lot. I call her a lot. I call Ethan

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a lot. Her next call was

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to her father. Jeffrey had been

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visiting Jasmine for dad's weekend

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and was on his way home. So you answer

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the phone, what do you hear? I hear

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her crying and just telling me

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to get back to Moscow

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and meet me at Zana's house. And

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you know, my heart drops

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instantly. He's

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back down there. The

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house was cordoned off and swarming

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with investigators. As soon

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as Jeffrey said he was Zana's father, he

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and Jasmine were escorted to the

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Moscow Police Department. And

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Jasmine, what does the officer say

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to you and your father? I

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don't remember exactly.

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Just

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that

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four people passed away and that

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one was Zana's.

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It was the worst day of your life,

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just your worst day

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ever.

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Just happened, you know?

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What do you do? You can't

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do a damn thing.

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