0:01

Have either one of you ever been to Disney

0:03

World? Nothing. Else

0:05

about seven or eight years old. As

0:11

not surprising, I was just curious. I

0:13

mean like know, that's a lie. I

0:15

just remembered I went me and my

0:17

friend Debbie went. Wow.

0:20

When I was about twenty five. Kilos

0:22

of Florida someone visitor she's I was good at.

0:24

This is so we drove for like the day,

0:26

completely forgot about that. Well.

0:28

I'm waiting on any rise. We just walked around. Us

0:32

and expensive walk around. yeah yeah we just

0:34

we just only like man it was friendly

0:36

cheaper but yeah but no no one else

0:38

Seems seems like a lot of work for

0:41

vacation. I don't know how you guys would

0:43

ever be in the situation to go, and

0:45

I know that neither one of you probably

0:47

would ever do it on your own flesh,

0:50

but. It.

0:52

And it's It's overwhelming. From.

0:55

The amount of people and the amount

0:57

of stimuli that's just around you all

0:59

the time. But if you ever find

1:01

yourself in the area, And.

1:03

You just want to get some like. Creative.

1:06

You know you talk about doing your walks

1:08

and you like taken creative stuff. If you

1:11

were to go to Disney World, maybe even

1:13

like. Some. Sort of

1:15

to were or something. And just walk

1:17

around and look at the details. In.

1:19

This massive county of creativity. You

1:22

would walk away with so much

1:24

stuff in your brain cause it

1:26

is. You.

1:29

Know a big picture. You look at the whole

1:31

thing. It's noise. It's loud. It's bright. It's. Food.

1:34

It's cost, it's it's that. and

1:36

the new zoom in to. Why?

1:39

Did they put this thing right here? Oh,

1:41

it's because they wanted to wrecked people subtly

1:43

to do this. Or they want

1:45

to make you stand in this perspective and look

1:47

at that mountain and it seems bigger than it

1:50

actually is because you know it's stuff like that.

1:52

Everywhere it's. Pretty.

1:55

Unbelievable! I was in Disney this week and can

1:57

affect the where you know. Didn't catch that. Yeah

2:01

we went the spring breaks, went to

2:03

my oldest is and marching band and

2:05

so they got to march through Magic

2:07

kingdom. All us more with a gun.

2:10

Yes! ago school trip down and. You.

2:12

Know the family just went. It's a cheaper way

2:14

for us to go. So the whole family went

2:16

and. We. Just heads

2:18

gosh I'm a days and a

2:21

bunch of days in the parks

2:23

with all the parks when to

2:25

universal and stood in lot the

2:27

lines but had a blast that

2:29

a really good time together and.

2:32

Yeah. And like

2:34

a senator know how you guys would ever

2:36

end up in that situation on a high

2:38

Admit according to his the Heard Murders it's

2:41

a video about says it when I was

2:43

doing but it's it is not happening though.

2:45

This for it is really really fascinating to

2:47

see the amount of effort that goes into

2:49

the simplest things down there. I do remember

2:52

when I was a child I do remember

2:54

and I'm thinking about knows it's hundred my

2:56

when I was young child maybe seven or

2:58

is always. We had a family trip down

3:01

there and. We. Said it a brand

3:03

new hotel. And I remember thinking myself

3:05

this hotel is dedicated to that part. Like

3:07

the magnitude of like this place is, so

3:09

many people from your had the wherewithal must

3:11

have been were closer to ten years old.

3:13

Had the wherewithal to real as exists parties

3:16

such a massive. Place. And

3:18

it has it's own hotel. To. Her

3:20

and it probably his. twenty

3:22

hotels now and I. Do

3:25

remember running or walking around and my

3:27

cousins who live down there they were

3:29

saying is a secret underground to run

3:31

the park and we would see lights

3:33

between tracks have some of the rise

3:35

in my cousins are doing that the

3:38

underground that's where the people who run

3:40

the park live down there. So these

3:42

magnitude of the city libdem ethicists, the

3:44

complexity of the whole place really was

3:46

was not lost on me in. The.

3:48

Amount of design and energy and

3:51

privacy. Is a huge

3:53

undertaking It always has been the know

3:55

isn't but is experiencing as a child

3:57

who ultimately became designer and in order.

4:01

The impact of that trip. Still,

4:03

Resonates with me. Since.

4:05

At a very least, you guys could

4:08

watch on. Have talked about this before

4:10

years ago on Disney Plus. There's in

4:12

a series. It's this

4:14

called imagineering or something about

4:16

the imagineers. and it's about.

4:18

That. Team of people that originally made Disney

4:21

Land and then how they ended up making

4:23

Disney World and all the stuff that they

4:25

went through creatively to. Not. All

4:27

the stuff a lot of stuff to They went

4:29

through to build these rides and create this park

4:31

and other stuff and it's a really fascinating look

4:34

at how much thought, when and all that. But

4:36

they do talk about the underground city thing a

4:38

little bit. basically Florida so. Low

4:40

that sea level that. The

4:43

they? they couldn't. They bought a counties worth

4:45

of like four hundred square miles or so

4:47

and remember exactly how much as a lot

4:50

of square miles of land. Secretly. And

4:52

then they went to build this park. They both

4:55

of these shell companies to buy land from of

4:57

the people's and nobody knew they were buying and

4:59

all at one time. and then they had this

5:01

big mass of land. But. It was

5:04

swamp. And. So then they built. This

5:07

city, you know? Tunnel.

5:10

System. And then put dirt on

5:12

it and then build the park on top of that.

5:14

So when you actually are in Magic Kingdom you are.

5:17

At least a story up above. The

5:19

rest of the ground. he can tell that

5:21

and so all of that tunnel system. Is

5:24

how they take a lot of the trash out

5:26

of the park so that you don't see people

5:28

walking off trash bags so much. You do a

5:31

little bit that they have like of. Transportation.

5:34

Micah mean a little cars and stuff down

5:36

there says and get from one place to

5:38

another. so if somebody gets lost the go.

5:41

And attendant will take them into the

5:43

system and they get them to the

5:45

place where they're safe very quickly didn't

5:47

It's wild is wild. The amount of

5:49

stuff that goes into the and in

5:51

that documentary concealed of it. but. Him.

5:54

And. The just the thought

5:56

and the care that goes and all the

5:59

rides. Even

6:01

the rides the ones that have been around

6:03

since the seventies and there was this one

6:05

we were on them com Thunder Mountain and

6:07

it's like. You're. On this old. Under.

6:11

Your So railroad track and on. there's

6:13

like explosive stuff everywhere in it's like

6:15

a camp where their mining something and

6:17

so as you're standing in line your

6:19

weaving through this old sack of a

6:22

building that looks like it's on a

6:24

mining camp and there's all this. Design

6:27

everywhere that makes you see the names of like

6:29

coal miner not call but new minors and all

6:31

the stuff. And then there's this one area where.

6:34

You. Have this little crank. And. It's

6:37

it's on the wall and it's looking at

6:39

a window and when you look at the

6:41

window you looking at the ride so it's

6:43

all looks like it's in California. It's rocks

6:45

everywhere in the swirling sister's going around and

6:47

there's pools, water and stuff and as crank

6:49

you you crank it up and a little

6:51

dial discos over and hits this read area.

6:54

And. Then when you do that next to it, there's

6:56

a. Like. A Dynamite. Her

6:58

plunger bumps plunger have a soothing and there's

7:00

a bunch of these along the ride. It's

7:02

a what you do. They don't tell you

7:04

this but would you do as you crank

7:06

it up to get surrender and then use

7:08

hit plunger and water will suit up out

7:11

of one of the pools that's out there

7:13

servants tell you about that. it's just. He

7:15

finds little things like that. They

7:18

built in to just immerse you and

7:20

make it fun and pass the time

7:22

and. And their stuff

7:24

like that everywhere. And. It's

7:26

like I was don't David for research recording.

7:28

My kids are now old enough that it's

7:30

not a matter of like how we had

7:33

to go find a bathroom again ozone someone.

7:35

snacks. Like. They're cool. Yeah,

7:37

I think we have fun together and we're

7:39

walking around talking the whole time about. Oh

7:42

did you see this little thing? Oh did you notice

7:44

this and my kids are noticing things and I didn't

7:46

see in. Winter. Really get

7:48

some and doesn't. Offer.

7:51

Nice. And I wrote Tron Ride Is

7:53

Under Mountain and Onesies Thunder Mountain based on

7:55

a movie? Isn't it like an old Disney

7:58

movies. The money. Anywhere

8:00

So irrelevant anymore because I do remember that a

8:02

scene that Ryan I do remember the has some

8:04

is with a movie Cops and Amount in. There

8:08

could be I don't know. Every so awesome

8:10

the seventies now these products real is the

8:12

right as another/mountain which was based on like

8:14

the bring a Rabbit were fox news song

8:17

in the south stuff which they've like. Blacked.

8:20

Out from History. Yes, you know it's

8:22

completely removed from all of their everything

8:24

and a renew in that read. So

8:26

there you know, taken at the remnants

8:28

of it. But there's there's a train

8:30

ride. their. And. Will.

8:32

Transmit. The movie from the early eighties

8:34

Jimmy or movie that element of or never the video

8:36

game or my friends are the places. The coin slot

8:39

game. Area. So

8:41

they built this light cycle rides and in

8:43

the movie he he knows the characters are

8:45

in the computer and so they're driving is

8:47

like motorcycles that leave like a beam of

8:49

light behind them. For iconic

8:51

and then a few years ago they

8:53

like ten years ago the Chemo, the

8:55

sequel to It's A Thaw modernized. it's

8:57

even more neon. He in Brighton? Yeah

8:59

yeah. And. The

9:02

art direction that movie is also pretty

9:04

fascinating because everything is. Black.

9:07

And Neon. So.

9:09

It's. Black. Suits and

9:11

blue glow and stuff for black suits

9:13

and yellow. glimpse of it's real. The

9:16

contrast is real high and so they

9:18

built this ride. That. Follows that

9:20

aesthetic and so when you go in

9:22

there everything looks like it is straight

9:24

out of the movie and the canopy

9:26

the covers. The entire entrance to the

9:28

walkway is covered with L E D

9:30

stuff that you can't see until it

9:32

lights up. so there's this big waves

9:34

of light and. To. An amazing

9:36

structure that we get inside this year and a

9:39

black them. With. Edge

9:41

lit acrylic everywhere that is animated and

9:43

screens behind things to at all the

9:45

steps and like it was really immersive.

9:47

Now I'm a big transcend. Like.

9:49

Right behind Star Wars, I'm a big

9:51

transcend and so I walked into this

9:54

room. And. Just kind

9:56

of was like whoa. This

9:58

is awesome! And it

10:01

really. It's. Been awhile since

10:03

I've been in a place like that. Like

10:05

a complete setting that. It

10:07

inspired me. Like. A and

10:09

it's something I like, so I'm drawn

10:11

to it, but I was like I

10:13

have to use this, I have this,

10:15

is this is amazing somebody went. Leaps.

10:18

And bounds. To. Make this

10:20

right to match the of the art

10:22

direction as movie. And

10:24

yeah I just really hit me so

10:26

I don't know what it is yet

10:29

of might notice but something soon is

10:31

gonna come out of that that immersive.

10:34

Worked at somebody else did in the to make that

10:36

ride. But it was so. It

10:39

was. So it's really, it's really important that.

10:42

As ours we see other art really.

10:44

The one thing that I said it

10:46

a nice nice said x talk that

10:48

as many years ago now easier to

10:51

see so much stuff. It'll just come

10:53

since you bring. You into

10:55

a specifically art but just interesting things

10:57

that is very you have to see

10:59

so much of it be suspended regurgitates

11:01

it's way somehow he goes through the

11:04

mishmash of your artificial intelligence in air

11:06

quotes of your brain him into stood

11:08

out later. As

11:10

is would that be considered. Real. Intelligence.

11:14

Assessments and your brains machine learning

11:16

done so you went to you

11:18

visited and art studio recently. Out.

11:21

About this Yes, Yes, yes ritual. My girlfriend

11:23

is a. Season:

11:25

an art dealer see. She'll soon

11:27

or consultant which is a little bit but

11:29

I'm learning is a little bit more specific.

11:31

an art consultant somebody that comes your house

11:33

and decides what type of art you're looking

11:35

for, helps you decide what to look for

11:37

and and as she says and for so

11:39

there's a lot of selling this empty space.

11:42

I want to fill this empty space

11:44

Architecturally approached an architectural prose versus a

11:46

real. Heart and

11:48

soul approach so she tries to balance

11:51

that with the clients and see place

11:53

to piece of Frank Salazar. With

11:55

the with a client hers and. She's.

11:59

Now has access. Still we can look

12:01

afresh dollars you know he's eighty eighty seven

12:03

years old. he wasn't at the studio this

12:05

is my my birthday week she brought me

12:07

and to visit with or with his with

12:10

his people and he has guys just like

12:12

us that make a lot of his art.

12:14

Now he makes my cats and he does

12:16

some work on the computer till design things

12:18

on the computer. And his work

12:21

is extremely free flowing. It's extremely

12:23

abstract. He makes big, giant public

12:25

sculptures at this point as life. obviously

12:27

some private work, small stuff, big

12:29

stuff. But it seems the majority of

12:31

his worked at this point is careers

12:34

all huge public art. So. Racist.

12:36

Have to come along. So she dragged me

12:38

over there to see it shouldn't have dragged

12:41

me by the way, I have since that

12:43

you weren't willing when I went willingly and

12:45

as he experimented with process materials, he's been

12:47

making art. In fact, to put in perspective

12:49

how much. Experience he has. we

12:51

were just look at him up a little bit

12:53

to that before she son service he knows him

12:55

as and tons of research on him. and she

12:57

found a quote night anagram of the quote specifically

12:59

more pertain to the conversation we're having. But.

13:02

He made his quote while he was icy

13:04

as I recall it was a quote about

13:06

seeing art. But.

13:08

That was sixteen when his teaching

13:10

a prat. so that's how far

13:12

back as seven ago. So he.

13:15

Yes a an amazing career.

13:18

My. experience of Frank Stella personally

13:20

was in the eighties. I

13:23

work for construction company and they had a

13:25

few contracts in the city was working at

13:27

spouse teaching. Most student at the school is

13:29

was I work for the construction company that

13:32

would hire me randomly from time to time

13:34

when they had jobs and one of the

13:36

jobs we had was painting the walls in

13:38

the Node Lawyer Gallery. So this is in

13:40

Nineteen Eighty Six. Eighty seven.

13:43

I was working with a group painters

13:45

and whoop renting the walls inside the

13:47

know like gallery which is a gallery

13:49

that cancelled Frank Stella. Salvador

13:51

Dali and several other artists and.

13:54

I got to see others were too close and like I

13:56

didn't I was an art handle a sudden move it but

13:58

I get to to in. Really, look at

14:01

it. One between between open hours

14:03

and whoop whoop painting. the various

14:05

galleries. In. The big

14:08

was in a beautiful building. wasn't

14:10

necessarily sort of ago. And

14:12

are so I store front but so we

14:14

had a paint the incidental spots to we

14:16

were a painting only the galleries you painting

14:19

the in between spots in the building was

14:21

more like a previously used to be A

14:23

and now it's but a very very wealthy

14:25

home from like one of the big bankers

14:27

in this in the Native Hundreds Analysis gallery

14:29

and so that was my first experience of

14:31

Frank's tells are seen it up close I

14:34

was when they handled mostly paintings of his.

14:36

now it's all sculpture, big giant sculptures and

14:38

his work is. It's of

14:40

a controlled chaos. His

14:42

later work stores that is to announce and

14:45

he has a bunch of guys like me

14:47

that works Aaron spray paint and do welding

14:49

and plasma cutting. They have all the tools.

14:52

It's crazy. It's in an old airports in it

14:54

looks like an airplane hangar. There's

14:57

overhead cranes everywhere. And.

14:59

The day he bought the building thirty years ago.

15:02

Is probably seventy five

15:04

thousand square feet warehouse.

15:07

And. Is randomly this cars. Cool.

15:10

Cars Ever. This is a Formula One car of

15:12

on a shelf like a real Formula One car.

15:15

Is. Just insane and asthma cats everywhere to sets

15:17

how he makes his art now he makes them

15:20

a casual and then you'll see him a cats

15:22

and you see all the influence around that my

15:24

cat sitting on the table toys in such and

15:26

then as you walk through you go through these

15:28

difference. While those places in that

15:30

bear it is, there's this manifestation of

15:32

that Mckenzie sitting on a table of

15:34

mirrors. And

15:38

and his it is guy who was shown

15:40

a ceramic oh that Mccain was made in

15:42

nineteen. Eighty Five and it

15:44

looks like it was placed their last week. So

15:48

he keeps I'll this old artwork around him

15:50

all the time. He. Sings

15:52

it. Aspires. To.

15:55

And they manifest in this tremendous pieces. And

15:57

those all these pieces get ready to be

15:59

shipped. If ago this is going

16:01

to Singapore this is further college such and

16:04

such in Europe. them is all these giant

16:06

pieces everywhere getting ready to be created and

16:08

there was lots of crates to his seven

16:10

very specific was created with flanks of the

16:13

trade is made out of place where they

16:15

want to do it. Crazy.

16:18

Is a is a good huge

16:21

idea factory for abstract art. As

16:24

and Daphne was great miss to such. You

16:26

know that these types of. The

16:29

surface of. The

16:31

said work responses. New

16:34

Image has been encouraged me to do more abstract work

16:36

him or talk about here. And

16:40

if some, it was right to lose my

16:42

brother, Abel. Third, Yet

16:44

happy early birthday So I sent you

16:47

guys who prefers of a stuff didn't

16:49

get crazy in Newburgh is a new

16:51

bike so if you live in the

16:53

New York area and you're driving I

16:55

knew begging you see this giant airplane

16:58

hangar with this crazy abstract art outside

17:00

and also across the street there's a

17:02

big empty public land across the street

17:04

is was being used for anything so

17:06

he and his crew placed in several

17:08

giants sculptures there. In

17:11

waiting to be placed somewhere in the world. And

17:14

the town ask them to to remove them in time

17:16

so he remove them. He lost the civil court battle

17:18

and then they remove them and then the town had

17:20

such an approach. the people in one of the are

17:22

back. Also

17:24

removed it across the street and then he

17:27

moved back of her sister and I see

17:29

him. I'm in. His name is on

17:31

a but. These pieces

17:33

needed senate cranes and cruz

17:35

to move them. There's tremendous.

17:38

So I myself, well, a lot of people in Newburgh

17:41

probably driven around wondering what's going on there. If you

17:43

don't already knows Frank's dollars or to do. I

17:47

I'm. I'm

17:50

so blown away by

17:52

established artists and the

17:54

infrastructure around them so

17:56

I can watch this

17:58

thing and. Jeff

18:01

Koons and I've watched a couple

18:04

of documentaries on Daniel are some

18:06

Cigarettes, I Says Names and. You

18:09

think of them as a single person. Because.

18:12

They're they're just the name. But then

18:14

when you see like there's studio tour,

18:16

there's like a team of one hundred

18:18

people working for them doing all of

18:21

the stuff and there's all. There's like

18:23

twenty pieces that said are all being

18:25

worked on at the same time, by

18:27

the artist, by the people, health, and

18:29

the artists and. Things. Being

18:31

shipped and it's such. A

18:35

weird business. I have this

18:38

like complete disconnect. From.

18:40

Understanding how you actually make

18:42

a living as of as

18:44

a famous artists are not

18:46

have you. Yeah

18:49

at the so I think we talk about this

18:51

before, but I've yet to friends who used to

18:53

work for Jeff Koons and they lived in New

18:56

York and. Were. Painters for

18:58

him and are both incredible artists

19:00

on their own. Like. Unbelievable,

19:04

you know? And. They

19:06

worked for him and just painted detail

19:08

like a lot of his paintings had

19:11

recently massive paintings with tons of detail.

19:13

And. Said. They would

19:16

paint in the get kind of a rough

19:18

idea, a sketch or something like that and

19:20

then they would go and do this detail

19:22

work at this really really large scale and

19:24

something about that. Bothers.

19:27

Me and I know that there's arguments

19:29

for it or against said about whose

19:31

work that actually is and nine than

19:33

ever, but. Knowing. The

19:35

person. The

19:37

and how talented they are and then

19:39

they're doing this work that someone else

19:41

is getting com a credit for as

19:43

their art. Something about that didn't sit

19:45

well with me. I think if you

19:47

like it should be a collective or

19:49

something that are out on us. It's

19:51

almost like a. And

19:55

it does. This doesn't bother me much

19:57

anymore, but when I was younger as

19:59

I. I didn't like artists who

20:01

just want by their name. For.

20:04

Example: Tom Petty or Bruce Springsteen

20:06

because I knew there were so

20:08

many other people involved in that

20:10

music and is is it just

20:12

seems so so weird. And then

20:14

when you. Arm. And.

20:17

I don't know any. Actual facts, but

20:19

I'm just pulling the side of out

20:21

of thin air. But when you think

20:23

of somebody like Britney Spears, I just

20:25

assume there's a team of right predisposes.

20:27

So not in right now. But I'm

20:29

making things up. But when I think

20:31

of Britney Spears as he goes, like.

20:34

There's. A team of writers working on these

20:36

songs to make hits and it's more than

20:38

than just his name and and was it.

20:41

It doesn't really bother me that much anymore

20:43

but he but he used to when I

20:45

was younger. I think when it when

20:47

it comes to as use your this is

20:50

Francis Picasso or even for Excel or Richard

20:52

Serra decide which had served as the big

20:54

metal sculpture he just passed away and

20:56

when you look at a Richard Serra.

20:59

Is this. Twenty

21:01

turn piece of sheet metal this three

21:03

inches thick. It's a shown to steal that

21:05

has a subtle curve in its and

21:07

his exists of would have he actually

21:09

do but he put in so many

21:11

years of. Shop.

21:13

Work him and exploration to get to

21:15

a point where his vision get bigger

21:17

than his hands and a lot of

21:20

these artists is that you put in

21:22

have a career, a lifetime career year.

21:24

Your vision becomes bigger than you and

21:26

isn't. And I think we all

21:28

know and not seen this writer's wrong. When

21:32

the asses fall after the next

21:34

nuclear fallout, To. Go into remember

21:36

the work for the person thought of it Nasa,

21:38

the. Two hundred people that put

21:40

it together and. That

21:43

I think is a lifetime. Of

21:45

work in the shop in the sealed putting together

21:47

your vision and then when you vision becomes bigger

21:50

than your hands you need help and and get

21:52

help. And that's when you have young up to

21:54

me up and coming artists and and I think

21:56

it's sort of like it's like a little bit

21:58

of the earth. It's almost like

22:01

the dirty underbelly of being a fine

22:03

artists is you have the studio assistance

22:05

that help you create your vision and

22:07

they're passing through their career trajectory. To.

22:11

Get to a point where they can also has

22:13

Asians bigger than their hands and know? So I

22:15

just said it's it's It's a little icky sticky

22:17

because you have people that. And

22:19

we talk a little about to see for

22:21

the thing started whereas somebody might say oh

22:24

you know because because it makes purple than

22:26

other sense like. Jeff Koons is very

22:28

genius. He decided to make this purple what a great

22:30

thought! Me while it's one of the studio system set

22:32

may be made it through the Mccann the mire to

22:34

get his vision out there and then that person is

22:36

the only person who could say the his friends and

22:38

families I was the one is sort of put making

22:40

a purple. And

22:43

and you you, you said. Coffins

22:46

to build your own career. So if I

22:48

said it's it's a look at a little.

22:50

As a little said, it's a dirty underbelly

22:52

of he as. I.

22:55

Think it a very selfish

22:57

way, I prefer. This is

22:59

a terrible, absolutely terrible thing.

23:01

The say I realized that

23:03

spice I. I

23:05

really want my artist that I love

23:07

to be. Tortured. Alone

23:10

in a room making that thing that they

23:12

want to make like I don't know how

23:15

to explain. Exactly how I

23:17

feel about it. But I want this

23:19

to be like I want their art

23:21

to be so meaningful to them to

23:24

come out of pain or or happiness.

23:26

But really what we create is much

23:28

bigger than that rate. and and I

23:30

just I just grew up in ah

23:33

in the early nineties. Nirvana was my

23:35

favorite band of all time. Like any

23:37

I'm or I read and watched every

23:39

single thing neuron Bill had that much

23:41

as so I just I can have

23:44

a test myself to that tortured artists.

23:46

Making art for themselves.

23:48

Who can't handle the.

23:51

That. The desire. Yeah, Wouldn't

23:54

that also we we we get into the weeds

23:56

or with a conversation with says as she pretty

23:59

good the idea of. Abby

24:01

Studio Assistance. versus. Having

24:03

a I versus having Cnc machines son

24:05

is a Cnc machines only studios distance

24:07

least in our community where people are

24:09

you didn't make that you to digital

24:12

and and I am a bit of

24:14

a firm believer in the idea that.

24:16

See. A coffin and I am. I'm a bit

24:18

of a firm believer and other forms of a

24:21

farm bill. A sudden nervous have a firm believer

24:23

in the idea that if you could think of

24:25

it and you can directed. It's

24:27

of be time to get to that. Added know

24:30

is believe it But when you see producers and

24:32

directors getting. Awards and even Derek

24:34

had this realization. He says I used to watch

24:36

producers and directors get awards at the word says

24:38

and. Then. On. The

24:40

sun. Marlon. Brando. That's not not.

24:43

it's a narrow little ones that made this.

24:45

Whether they do, you realize that. They're

24:47

just brushes in their canvas. really?

24:51

Producers and directors who didn't do the acting

24:53

in him maybe in some cases didn't write

24:55

a screenplay, but they're walking away with the

24:57

Oscar basis of as Their Vision Is there.

24:59

And then when we look back at our

25:01

experience with our Tv show and we. Every

25:04

one of us constantly says it. The

25:07

reason are making fun show is when it

25:09

was is specifically because I'm Michael Dare the

25:11

guy who put the whole concept together and

25:14

had a vision and. Put

25:16

together all these different. Pieces of

25:18

of his personal experience together to

25:20

make what we may. Obviously

25:23

we have a part in it and lot

25:25

of the creative imagery was really brought up

25:27

by us as the as the Makers but

25:29

might put the suddenly. And

25:31

he added together. So.

25:34

It's it's made by hand, are made by

25:36

mind. I think it's as they do, The.

25:39

Same as and if. I

25:41

can. I can accept that a lot more

25:43

now than and my abilities. You know when

25:45

I was an artist and I was like

25:47

I remember like seeking to school systems insistence

25:49

that to the stuff he always wears a

25:52

suit he's never gets dirty that one of

25:54

these are the city struggling with like dirty

25:56

pants on. It's

25:59

interesting. Yeah and then to

26:01

come to the. The. Realization

26:03

what that actually really means and. But

26:06

at some point he probably was right, I don't

26:08

know anything about his past, but I would assume

26:10

that at some point he was the. Coming.

26:13

Up with ideas and painting them and and

26:15

phrasing I had a sell it and minute

26:17

that type of stuff like my friend actually

26:19

did work for him as well. My friend

26:21

had some my testing for him really I

26:23

was making like small like balloon animals and

26:26

him and he he gave me a little

26:28

bit of a history which in for can

26:30

be totally wrong. Physicists Twenty five years ago.

26:34

And. My recollection, he was always more of

26:36

a a producer to less of an actual

26:38

physical maker. I could be totally wrong there,

26:40

but with looking up. Yes,

26:44

I'm I'm it. Shut out my friend

26:46

Matt who is one of the people

26:48

are talking about because he is amazing

26:50

artist and sacraments somebody who. Like.

26:53

Gets. Dirty. At. His

26:56

name's Matt over. And I'm gonna put

26:58

a link in the Sooners to his

27:00

studio show that is. As. We

27:03

look at these paintings. Fear Of City As a

27:05

liter. Ah,

27:09

You look at these paintings and.

27:13

They look. Very.

27:16

Very realistic. The saying that doesn't translate

27:18

when you're looking at these images is

27:21

the size of the images and real

27:23

lights. And if you go, if you.

27:26

Go. Over some of them you can see them

27:28

and frames on a brick wall. And

27:30

then you see the scale of the picture. And

27:32

then we think about the detail at

27:34

that scale. Their small, the small paintings.

27:36

but when you look at the amount

27:38

of detail in them at the scale

27:40

that they were painted it is unbelievable

27:42

and we've hung out with them a

27:44

lot, some in their house in the

27:46

studio and been a his described how

27:48

he goes about painting these things and

27:51

it's all from reference he he goes

27:53

around. he buys all these like creepy

27:55

old. Toys and just strange

27:57

things and he sets up still

27:59

lice. It would never

28:01

exist otherwise. And then. He'll

28:03

he'll paint them in. At

28:06

their unbelievable. They're.

28:08

Unbelievable things. Somebody would give them a shot

28:10

off as he used to work he and

28:13

his girlfriend but he saw work for. Tickets

28:16

are this is also important though

28:18

these the studio assistance. As.

28:21

Really important as a an artist's it.

28:23

Has a burning desire to do that

28:25

large scale art. It's really important as

28:27

the studio system system is there so

28:29

that you could get up close and

28:31

personal look and see how that works

28:33

vs I'm gonna always only do my

28:36

own thing and never than orphan and

28:38

artists and a new set of an

28:40

outsider how you than a break into

28:42

the system. You. Could you could

28:44

be working at it and a big studio francis

28:46

a difference. Him and Meet. Any

28:49

number of people that are extremely wealthy

28:51

and famous in her new he could

28:54

develop access to any of these people.

28:57

Been up with own. I'm sure that being a

28:59

city assistant is a learning experience as well. Known.

29:02

I would guarantee they'll walk out with more skills.

29:04

noom an endless yeah. And I like is it

29:06

not necessarily just for the art in the technical

29:08

know how, but. Getting

29:10

access to the people who would buy your heart. Known

29:13

who those people are? What foundations of the foundations

29:15

of spend money. Or you get a college to

29:17

buy a child sculpture to put nothing amiss and

29:19

in a when he the stuff. But I just

29:21

know that being in that world is how you.

29:24

Can. Access Things Studio System say Get

29:26

access to these I remember personally

29:28

my experience. I met Richard Avedon

29:30

when I was a student at

29:32

the School of Visual Arts. I

29:35

had. I

29:37

made this wooden box and my teacher

29:39

at a time work for with Richard

29:41

Avedon on the Revlon As you. This.

29:44

Is in the eighties. And

29:46

my teacher her name is Yolanda Cuomo. To

29:49

see designs and makes both sitting sister work in

29:51

the city. And she was

29:53

working on the Revlon as at the time and.

29:56

Hermitage Amazon pick Cindy Crawford to be

29:58

the model in The Rebel Ned. Well

30:00

maybe them Anyway, she would do the she

30:03

would do. The rev on is Cindy Crawford

30:05

was the model who is twenty years old

30:07

at the time and Richard Avedon was the

30:09

photographer and I brought in this box in.

30:11

The teacher was so impressed with his boxes.

30:14

I am working on a project of Richard

30:16

Avedon to meet me at a studio today

30:18

and bring the box sick Pure. So we

30:20

unedited Evidence Studio. Which was up

30:22

the Upper East Side. He was there. Sat.

30:25

There with him he had like twenty assistance bringing

30:27

us everything. Can I get sick? are seeking justice

30:29

and they were all flutter and around like it

30:31

was. It was i guess thing was it has

30:33

seen in a fashion movie. Ten

30:36

people came up to him while we were talking

30:38

for about thirty minutes. We're sitting at

30:40

a table. Of we're

30:42

going to use Ilford for her to or that's

30:44

great about going to do this the he. Didn't.

30:47

Seem to have one stress in the world and

30:49

everybody else around him was like sucking up all

30:51

the stress of the sense that we're getting ready

30:53

to s what he was, how many what he

30:55

says as with sees to have somebody else he.

30:58

He was just like answer every question Brooks has

31:00

ruined Shelley was he was very very nice and

31:02

know it was. It was a pretty incredible meeting

31:04

but that was really the first time I was

31:06

my second your Art school hang out Richard Avedon

31:09

Studio. Seeing all

31:11

these assistance he had. Doing.

31:13

All. The dirty Work. But.

31:16

He had a career to get to that it

31:18

was. He had lived a lifetime of a courageous

31:20

soon famous at that point and then I then

31:22

about three years later I saw him do in

31:25

a photo shoot him my neighborhood or outside my

31:27

building and I walked over to mean I said

31:29

hello and he remembered me was also very nice

31:31

again and now he was He was photographing. And

31:34

was even funny. I remember that it was a

31:36

cold day. He was stands in their Elected Assistance

31:38

or Adams couple a models in and out of

31:40

some model truck that was nearby. As he was

31:43

standing there was hands in his pocket. And

31:45

I don't remember seeing him take a picture. He

31:47

was just there as the director of telling level

31:49

was pushing the button what to do He was

31:51

directing the models and was a call that he

31:53

was were no without a coat is handsome Everybody

31:55

was called his hands of his pockets he wasn't

31:58

room with a camera. Recollect

32:01

trying to get to that point. Yet.

32:04

That idea of having being

32:06

surrounded by that many employees

32:08

that are making and not

32:10

making decisions that are executing

32:12

yeah and being. On.

32:14

Stressed about that? That seems really foreign to

32:16

me. Because. I feel like that would be.

32:19

Like. You have to be really successful. I think for

32:21

that scenario to not be stressful. Yeah.

32:25

That. Seems like a very stressful you know

32:27

a lot of moving parts and a lot

32:29

of as by admiral and civility I just

32:31

have to with a get on me both

32:33

I mean I said happy Bradley when it

32:35

happens toy my twin production company with my

32:38

brother Whoop! It is stressful Madison personalities. It

32:40

takes away the fun and making art. Which

32:43

is why I keep in. I see the lean and mean. For

32:46

tried to. Lean and mean.

32:51

I'm. David. We. Never

32:53

heard from you like what you were doing.

32:55

This week he didn't go to Disney World

32:57

and know that I did not go to

33:00

Disney World now. Ah, this week we are.

33:02

I'm participate in something really really simple we're

33:04

doing. We're making a medicine cabinet for the

33:06

other house for the rental house. And

33:09

now we discuss a few weeks ago and

33:11

trying to figure out what. What's.

33:14

The Earth. What's their? Why would

33:16

an we're hidden storage? Ba ba

33:18

ba and I decided you know

33:20

I I just one am. I

33:22

just want to make it. dang

33:24

medicine cabinet that script. Stupid simple

33:26

and so that's what I'm doing.

33:28

I'm. Does everyone that's can

33:30

have the secret entrance into another land

33:33

right right open the other directs right

33:35

set of be park to the video

33:37

specific as it is I I I

33:39

just came to the realization like sometimes

33:41

you just gotta make something. That

33:44

doesn't have any hurdles that doesn't have

33:46

to have a hook. It does is

33:48

just I just need to make something

33:50

that needs to be there. And.

33:53

I'm going to make a video parlors

33:55

some and and that an internet business

33:57

stress out about twenty get a million.

34:00

The isn't as video. Either.

34:03

Hundred and might have thought about making

34:05

the stupid finish that urban. Area

34:08

has I do have using. It's Beautiful

34:10

by my Side effects. Yes, they write

34:13

about the practices yeah I I I

34:15

can make them in batches of basically

34:17

twenty four, twenty five. Kids

34:19

at a time and. Ah

34:22

is. It's it's.

34:24

a lot were assessed. I'm

34:26

good, my mom is it.

34:30

What? Should be a most successful

34:32

and over. Well yeah it turns

34:34

into a whole thing of like

34:37

it's not easy to ship. So

34:39

because and has violence or demichelis

34:42

yeah has has also materials and

34:44

or ethanol so had to go

34:46

through this whole thing. Those. People.

34:52

Were tell him and needs to be has

34:54

not certified Surf on this course for one

34:57

hundred and fifty bucks and. And

34:59

then it has to be package and

35:01

certain way The original at ah this

35:03

is it was originally going to be

35:05

packaged and a glass whiskey bottle. And

35:09

this all started

35:11

when. I.

35:14

Took some finish that. I've.

35:17

Been. I've been using the maker brand finish off

35:19

last couple years for a lot of projects and

35:21

it comes in a can and I can never

35:23

see how much as in the cat. So.

35:26

I poured that can into a Jim

35:28

Beam. Empty Jim Beam Bottle. Now

35:31

I can only see how much is

35:33

in there it's it's kinda over on

35:35

the top or whatever and then over

35:37

a couple years that Jim Beam bottle

35:39

got really the teen as with all

35:41

this drive finish on the and as

35:43

soon as whiskey bottle looks amazing and

35:45

so I wanted to carry over that

35:47

seem and to the Spanish that I'm

35:49

developing and so ice I bought. A

35:52

whole bunch of glass bottles with quirks

35:54

and going with the whole whiskey theme

35:56

and then after I didn't realize shipping

35:58

was gonna be so. Hard. Ah,

36:00

the bottles. too big to ship

36:03

and it. Has

36:05

to be under a certain amount of

36:07

ounces as a bottle was bigger than

36:09

that. You can ship and greater quantities

36:12

but they has to be a metal

36:14

container. And so so

36:16

Yeah, And so than a guy that put

36:19

it in a smaller sixteen ounce container. and

36:21

then I also have the it's like of

36:23

course, cap the friction sick cap. And

36:26

can't see if any thing

36:29

with with ethanol. That has a

36:31

friction fat cat. By has to be

36:33

a screw cap that turns at least

36:35

one and a half times. There's all

36:37

the other. I had to get some

36:40

hazmat labels and go through all this

36:42

stuff to sit this. Ah, it's fence.

36:44

Ah, it's been fun and I hate

36:46

shipping and so. I

36:49

didn't want to be a factory. I

36:51

didn't want to make this public. so

36:53

I made a video corner with the

36:55

all the ingredients that he's given you

36:57

the exact recipe, encouraging people to make

36:59

it themselves. You

37:01

guys convinced me I said I should try

37:03

to sell it so I decided are thought

37:05

to just pedro members only. Are

37:23

they get off? The

37:33

very poor I'm looking at him out of her

37:35

bird. Yeah, looks great. Who.

37:56

Did you go see that post the Swedes? You reminds me because

37:59

he said he was and. The make it would

38:01

confusingly similarly marketed like the like I

38:03

Like. Bourbon. A

38:05

woman is sort of thing of a mother. This

38:07

is olive oil. Based. Cosmetics.

38:10

Company, many states and olive oil and the mother bought

38:12

it and thought it was real olive oil. She cooked

38:14

a whole chicken dinner with shampoo. That

38:17

looks like an olive oil bottles of it.

38:21

Is a daughter comes in he goes mama says

38:23

shampoo and is a little tiny word on the buses.

38:25

Olive Oil Us Olive Oil That natural olive oil.

38:28

And is a little word on it. it's as shampoo. And.

38:32

The mother had no idea and and then says

38:34

the muddling cursing and. Being. All annoyed

38:36

have to cook in this big beautiful dinner

38:38

with sample. So that's that's why the maples

38:41

a very important. Means they try it.

38:43

It might have been good. The hat. I

38:46

at that in the on that note I have a

38:48

pet peeve I need glasses and when I sick when

38:50

I take a shower at a hotel. Bathroom.

38:55

They. Have the new pump bottles Now Every bottle

38:57

has every shower that every hotel as three

38:59

pump bottles one of them as conditioner and

39:01

I don't need to this nigga some balls

39:03

and he by itself already tempo and every

39:05

single time i i'd like to lox of

39:07

it's raw it's like is it the first

39:09

one that is not that is that is

39:11

not to the center of your when we

39:14

go to the second one that's kinda he's

39:16

a it's in the middle but it's not

39:18

always in the middle. always end up like

39:20

because I can't read those three little words

39:22

on those three bottles. And

39:24

it's like take my glasses in the shower or

39:26

have was not a shower with your glasses on

39:29

to mom I always I guess given a hotel

39:31

room and a bike see where the conditioner see,

39:33

don't use it and I always forget to tell

39:35

him in the shower the shower running. My bosses

39:37

are. That

39:39

packaging is important. And

39:42

is true. I saw. I'm glad

39:45

that it sold out. David and I'm in. I understand

39:47

that it may not be sent a new and keep

39:49

on. but. I. Think that's really cool

39:51

that you made something that at least that

39:53

many people wanted. Yeah, immediately happy news come

39:55

and they're looking forward to it. And he

39:57

could say you were a lot of the

39:59

stuff. Come from a Suit when I

40:01

announced in the the You Tube video.

40:04

That as only sona to patriot

40:07

members. At costs

40:09

for testing purposes I immediately

40:11

or the oil not immediately

40:13

but over the next week

40:15

I got like twenty five

40:17

new Patriot members and that

40:19

stress of like gotta throw

40:21

these people are buying into

40:24

this an. Unproven

40:26

and then it sort of. You may

40:28

get and fifteen minutes and I was

40:30

posted on My discord Might Imposter syndrome

40:33

has totally kicked in. The stuff isn't

40:35

even a hasn't been thoroughly tested would

40:37

you guys do? And and.

40:40

Just. Makes me success. Makes me

40:42

nervous. But. They

40:45

knew that great the me really clear but I suppose.

40:47

yeah. Mint. So

40:49

there you know he can look at it.

40:51

I totally get that feeling does I would

40:53

feel exactly But you can also get it

40:55

from the perspective of. There's.

40:58

At least this number of people there's a

41:00

lot more than the dishes. At least this

41:02

number of people who believe in my potential

41:04

enough to help me tests. In

41:07

such as a thank you the greatest thing

41:09

ever but the they want to help you

41:12

if he would. You actually are and that's

41:14

very. Good

41:17

man, I'm glad it's happening.

41:23

Jimmy. he didn't really say what you been

41:25

working on. I don't wanna work on. I

41:27

made the garden court last week. I'm calling

41:29

it the utility court. And co

41:31

the garden carpet. It's more of a utility

41:34

card for around the around the yard and

41:36

that was a fun video to me and

41:38

nothing has been getting used quite a bit.

41:40

said. I am going to use it a

41:42

lot. We've been also working on the barn

41:44

have to do more Instagram stuff on the

41:46

barn in the backyard. This getting finished has

41:48

sat on zone for year and now I'm

41:50

putting lot of time and energy into that

41:52

so there's gonna be some videos coming out

41:54

on the barn. The then a lot of

41:56

people ask about the house, the graveyard house

41:59

which hasn't been. The only because the

42:01

winter has been pretty harsh and where the

42:03

houses it's on a giant. Empty.

42:05

Sealed that the wind comes with an

42:07

upset of work there is impossible in

42:10

the winter. Miss. The

42:12

Seasons. Building. On Mount Everest. That's

42:14

what it's like over there. So the winter

42:16

was just a harsh winter. In that

42:18

particular area so I am not. I'm

42:21

not going to work and when and

42:23

now spring is here, I'm going to

42:25

get the Graveyard Hausa. I'm partially true

42:27

the last videos working on. I realize

42:29

I looked at the footage the other

42:31

day starter for that video together and

42:33

the last day I worked out it

42:35

was. December twenty seventh. so

42:37

couple days after Christmas is less than

42:39

most over there working. Side

42:42

of us me and my my memory I would

42:45

have thought. September.

42:47

October. I didn't know they were founded. That

42:49

late in the. After.

42:51

January February uses a to rust

42:54

winter months. So now that

42:56

the spring is from. Wouldn't. Work

42:58

on all the projects all the time.

43:01

No pressure typical to them about

43:03

my did you guys see my

43:06

job and so showed up? Did

43:08

you see that on Instagram some

43:10

of his yes it is so

43:12

big and it is so big

43:14

business but it's not assembled yet.

43:16

It came on a truck from

43:18

from Georgia in a city says

43:20

at it is humongous Be casting.

43:23

For the the see frame for

43:25

the band saw just a testing

43:27

itself is twenty five hundred pounds

43:30

twenty twenty three hundred pounds and

43:32

then the wheels it takes to

43:34

four foot diameter wheels and. These.

43:38

The table The tables probably two or three

43:40

hundred pounds. The cast the table to all

43:42

that can excel he gets.start to be assembled

43:44

and. Ah, Keith

43:47

Rucker who did a. Over

43:49

Sixty Video Series on restoring that

43:51

band saw. He wants

43:53

to come up and work with me putting

43:55

it together so we the scepticism or time

43:58

I want heap he wants to. And

44:00

I went to Fordham that opportunity and in

44:02

my got sucked. Ah, I got a figure

44:05

it out but he put so much tender

44:07

loving care into that sing and that I

44:09

want. Him to be comfortable with the

44:11

weight set up. but before he gets here I have

44:13

to build a platform for it. Because.

44:16

The wheel on the bottom of the saw.

44:19

Goes. Through the floor, And

44:22

I don't have a florida put it on right now

44:24

cause all the rooms I would use it in a

44:26

concrete know met reddit. Dig a hole and concrete to

44:29

the wheel. So. In a factory

44:31

setting in the eighteen eighties when the Spencer was set

44:33

up. That would have been put in a.

44:36

On. A situation where the whole would go through

44:39

this concrete floors when for I thought about

44:41

putting in in the in the graveyard house

44:43

barn but the week me and rob looked

44:45

at it and. Mcrae

44:47

this may not be strong enough of you know,

44:49

without some modifications. Some

44:52

get. That sir, and we're

44:54

going on that and. This

44:57

week I might experiment with and I'm

44:59

getting and I month and I'm breaking

45:01

the bank on views, but the positive

45:03

feedback has been overwhelming. My

45:05

so called the video style where

45:08

I'm showing. More. Intimate problem

45:10

solving and talking in the moment

45:12

while I'm working on the design

45:14

aspects in the problem solving aspects

45:16

of it could really responded to

45:18

it is it's nice to see

45:20

to the videos are a little

45:22

bit more interactive with the audience

45:24

and in the comments section to

45:26

this week it's a simple video.

45:28

But. I want to use my bending Break

45:30

that a half and I may or may

45:33

not be ready for this weekend. Been him

45:35

because I haven't started yet. but it's a

45:37

simple to the I could probably do it

45:39

in today's considering tomorrow and Friday and Co

45:41

new design and make a medals to and

45:43

I did it in the passage of the

45:45

Shaquille O'neill Still that that was based on

45:47

an existing designed this is gonna be more

45:49

of a simple design and some the it's

45:51

more about using. The. Bending break

45:54

from southern problems with the spending break

45:56

that I. And

45:58

then hand hot rivets and stuff. I

46:00

can have a vision for this industrial style

46:02

metal still that will be made on the

46:04

bending break. So. Many

46:06

go through the process is shown that. Design

46:09

process and than making the cari

46:11

pass the torch may table and

46:13

than bending and only. The.

46:16

Speak giant metal banter that as. So.

46:18

etc. Map for this week. And

46:21

I start a little bit about my picture on. So.

46:24

I made a little paper model of it. So

46:27

they get to see them. To. Mit.

46:31

Dem at spring in it you know been

46:33

more minutes to to work before I left

46:35

for Florida I went out and spend a

46:37

couple hours and like maybe an hour and

46:39

a half that farm had to go move

46:41

for the first time in the season. And.

46:46

Site. While I was there I just did

46:48

a little bit of his body solar stuff on.

46:51

the Good: it has to sing in so long

46:53

like you know. it's nice outside and. I

46:56

mixed up. A. Wide of

46:58

body filler. And. As

47:00

soon as I started mixing it together, I'm

47:02

like, oh, this is why you do it

47:04

in warm weather is totally different than the

47:07

frozen icing that I was doing in the

47:09

winter when I was trying to make the

47:11

video. This is just like. He

47:14

knows I'm like real. The elevated

47:16

and buttery in man I have that

47:18

the to little areas that I coded

47:20

and that our that I was out

47:22

there. whatever just have so much better

47:24

like fewer bubbles it went on smoother

47:26

is as yes so I'm glad I

47:28

didn't waste the winner trying to do

47:30

that over and over and over. but

47:32

it was also really nice to get

47:34

back to it and do worked. I'm

47:36

a small section and make a progress

47:38

but. Now.

47:41

That it's warm enough and I'll be out

47:43

there moving and stuff on a regular basis

47:45

for the next several months and opened of

47:47

really make some progress on the body. So

47:49

it's because I really want to get that

47:51

part out of the way as the audience

47:53

out of work to do. Yes, not a

47:55

lot of metalwork. I have to cut the

47:57

entire back end. Bottom. Like.

48:00

Under the trunk. have to cut that whole

48:02

thing out and put in new panels on

48:04

all that, Well, and so yeah, that's going

48:06

to be hard to get lined up and

48:08

hard to figure out what to replace in

48:11

what order so that I don't lose my

48:13

reference points and stuff. So the body filler.

48:16

Just. Kinda feels like with and Disney to get this

48:18

done. Any get it out of the wayside, get on to

48:20

the. Actual difficult work.

48:23

By. Cells difficult, but it's just. More.

48:26

Of the same own. And

48:28

I know it's gonna take me along tunes. The thing,

48:31

I don't know. About

48:33

body filler is how do

48:35

you know. When. It's enough.

48:38

How do you know when. It's.

48:43

It looks the gonna look good because

48:45

you're sending. A surface on

48:47

top of another surface on top of.

48:49

Primer. Which is on top of metal

48:51

and so as you say and eat it

48:54

could get smooth and glossy. it's as gets

48:56

harder to look at. go with I really

48:58

don't know you gotta look at it down

49:00

at my my experience Bondo is you could

49:03

put bondo wanna dance. Sands

49:05

it and then you said too much and

49:07

then when you pay to you look back

49:09

you could see the edges of the dense than

49:11

a very very like layer. So it's really

49:13

important if you guys have noticed there's a

49:15

lotta guys. Doing these

49:18

dead repairs online and they

49:20

have these. L E

49:22

D panels that only. Project.

49:24

Lines. So when you put the the lot

49:26

you in you the light on a glossy

49:28

surface you see the alley, the lines. Reflected.

49:32

And know. Sainz. Contours

49:35

over dense and say you talking about a

49:37

shiny correct so called to detain on so

49:39

those L E D lines will go in

49:42

and out of his Ncc the topographic map

49:44

of that sense and as they remove it

49:46

these guys specialize in getting out sense and

49:48

painted cars which is obviously a whole art

49:51

in and of itself without shipping the paint

49:53

or cracking the paints and it is incredible

49:55

the work they can do but I would

49:57

imagine if you gonna do a car that.

50:00

Is not painted. you might be able

50:02

to wipe it with water for instance

50:04

is to get it wet to see

50:06

those same contours but also just hit

50:08

hit a body panel in the dark

50:10

with a long shadow. Turn.

50:12

The lights went out and says ticket. And

50:14

all like flashlights and shine it straight down

50:17

the bodies and lay The plus side against

50:19

the body panels. points in into dance and

50:21

you'll be able to see shadows with he

50:23

sounded too much bondo or you haven't said

50:26

that enough, you'll be able to see the

50:28

the contours tussle I need the longer sending

50:30

blocks see are not suggesting that that you

50:32

need to sans the whole panel with the

50:35

one lox. And. That that

50:37

the other day as sauce and I said to

50:39

so's with somebody and as has This is why

50:41

you always is a longstanding box and was the

50:43

guy standing the side of have a link him.

50:46

With. A restored like Mates and Sixty's

50:48

Lincoln Continental with the suicide doors and

50:50

he had a a sanding block that

50:52

was six or seven feet long and

50:54

was sending the whole side of the

50:56

car with two arms and senses. Lock

50:58

was like four inches wide, but like

51:00

sixty long across the doors in the

51:02

body panels often. As

51:05

a ton of bonding. Never seen that South

51:07

Values is trying get the whole side of

51:09

the cards islam on shots that. It's

51:13

like ice and I don't remember what

51:15

we're talking about. Been a long time

51:17

ago and this podcast an episode One

51:19

Twenty two. You mentioned something about putting

51:21

sandpaper in the bottom of a big

51:24

sheet of plywood and then just running

51:26

that over over top of some panel.

51:28

I don't know. I don't have a

51:30

yes. talk about that it it says

51:32

when your suggestions. That.

51:34

Was years ago me and I did all

51:37

this I did all this korean countertops stuff

51:39

than there was a whole bunch of connections

51:41

There was always human so he had to

51:43

enter and Korean with like edge band and

51:45

Korean have made this whole countertop. And

51:48

I had a smooth this this intersection of

51:50

all these panels and. And this

51:52

is where I came up with that similar

51:54

idea. I was reserved welder and weep to

51:56

the p Supply would say that a bunch

51:59

of hundred good time. Pluto was

52:01

a hundred bits and we made the slide

52:03

and pound weights on that sled and just

52:05

the two of us. Mm Blue was a

52:07

hot day move both trip and swept a

52:10

coal mine of sliding this wouldn't slide back

52:12

and forth over this joint. To

52:14

smooth it out and that's what really got more

52:16

settled. joint down to get a smooth of same

52:19

type of thing. As

52:23

pretty well. As an

52:25

how that. Did you didn't have

52:27

to go back and polish that? Are

52:30

the Korean? yeah that is that you Just

52:32

so that was resisting to break all the

52:35

surfaces the at all surfaces on getting a

52:37

complainer then on top of that the negro

52:39

sand it was. Three hundred, Four

52:41

hundred, Six hundred, Twelve hundred Many could bring

52:43

it up. Such a gloss needed to. Get.

52:47

A Korean as such. an incredible materials to play with

52:49

as he hasn't played with it. It's great to see

52:51

and see the laser etched it for making a use

52:53

of the late leather stamps a lot. But.

52:56

It can. when you glued together with

52:58

the proper color, you can glued together

53:01

with the proper color. A

53:03

boxy the seem as as

53:06

becomes invisible. Schools.

53:10

As soon as you make encounter had

53:12

similar reception desk or something. Well,

53:16

we had a topic that we didn't really get

53:18

to it and. We've

53:20

been talking for like ten self

53:23

stance more. the scene. Within

53:26

the next month. It

53:29

was a after we finished recording today.

53:31

I'm gonna actually start the as A

53:33

talked about Tbilisi. I'm like redoing my

53:35

shop and the whole reorganization. Everything the

53:38

started today so I'm really excited. I.

53:41

Deficits? That the thing. and

53:43

I'm. Still, Kind

53:45

of our on The sense that we're trying

53:48

to figure out is just the presentation of

53:50

the things. I've got an idea of. That

53:52

kind of a. our

53:54

this system that over cells and a little bit but

53:56

you know like i'm i'm thinking through of. A

53:59

way to discuss. Said to

54:01

myself. What? Do I want out

54:03

of the space? And how do I achieve it? And

54:05

in I'm trying to apply that little system to. Each.

54:08

Of the spaces in the shop as a

54:10

whole and then my office and some trying

54:13

to make something that's like a here's a

54:15

little plan for organizing. Spaces for

54:17

yourself. Three. Steps to think of.

54:19

Think about this and than think about this and and apply it

54:21

to this and the do it again. So

54:24

I'm just figuring out

54:26

how to. Present.

54:29

That. To

54:31

in a video. Cameo

54:34

on talking. But. And and

54:36

been some. Coming. But the other

54:38

side of it is I'm just really anxious,

54:41

assert their own stuff, away his assets, and

54:43

like cleaning and organizing. And like a wounded,

54:45

it was solas. Yeah, let's move along. Soaps

54:49

We get done today. That's when I'm done,

54:51

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57:13

I got Michael Sam and Michael

57:15

J a M I N and

57:17

Muscle Damage got popular on Instagram

57:20

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57:22

California and he's a screenwriter. He's

57:24

written on several several popular same

57:26

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57:30

got really good advice when it comes to.

57:33

The creative process of writing mostly

57:35

specifically, but it applies to. Everything

57:37

we do one way or another is very

57:39

open and honest and and very transparent when

57:41

it comes to. Writing.

57:44

For Tv shows in Hollywood. Specifically.

57:47

But it's all applicable stuff to the

57:49

creative process. Michael.

57:51

Examine his His Instagram is very funny

57:53

He a they said he rose his

57:56

instagram popped because of the rise of

57:58

strength and he was given. Minute by

58:00

minute updates about what was going on and why and

58:02

how and all that stuff in the actors in the

58:04

right to strike. That's how I sounded. Interesting.

58:08

Got. Mine is

58:10

a you video called a map for my

58:12

inner child. Have you guys seen? As for

58:15

you, Said not

58:17

know. This guy named Jordan stuttered.

58:19

He makes a map of New

58:22

York City where he lives and

58:24

it's. Scary Butcher

58:26

L E D lights behind it. took an

58:28

old map framed it could have been to

58:30

L A D lights behind us and eats

58:33

like. Represents like

58:35

"Are a Famous iconic place

58:37

in New York, seen on

58:40

and in movies and television

58:42

shows like the Seinfeld restaurant"

58:46

Just either. There's like a couple dozen

58:48

of these places within this map. And

58:50

it's a really. Good. Video.

58:54

And. He's making this map.

58:56

thrust the video. It's it's it's. only

58:58

three minutes and ten seconds had sung.

59:01

I take long to watch it's arms.

59:04

But. It's not. It's a

59:06

really good way to approach a video

59:08

about making something and not have it

59:10

be about making something. It's about the

59:12

story of his childhood. And and

59:14

and making of them as is a very

59:16

interesting way to make a video of you

59:19

would think how I would approach it is

59:21

well I took ah I took this map.

59:23

I made this frame I didn't is wired

59:25

up the know. it's not about that, it's

59:28

about the story Mrs. Really good. Cook

59:33

and sick than I am.

59:35

Mine is from court or

59:37

crew and it's a. Coincidence.

59:40

That it's Disney related completely to just

59:43

happened show for me yesterday. So.

59:47

This video is about a piece

59:49

of technology that Disney came up

59:51

with to make movies years ago

59:53

and they used it once or

59:56

twice or something and then that

59:58

dislike disappeared and. In

1:00:02

the short version of the ideas in a

1:00:04

green screen blue screen it's a. It's

1:00:06

a colored background that than when. You

1:00:09

make the movies and t out that color and replace

1:00:11

it with something else. In

1:00:13

assessment on for years and years and years.

1:00:16

But when you look at I'm Mary Poppins.

1:00:18

There's. A lot problems with that to you

1:00:21

can't wear the color that's been t doubt

1:00:23

it doesn't work with transparent things because the

1:00:25

transparency and the color behind it is really

1:00:27

difficult. But when you watch I'm Mary Poppins.

1:00:30

You. Have transparency. You have lots of

1:00:33

motion, You have water. You have

1:00:35

all these things that shouldn't work

1:00:37

and they look. Perfect.

1:00:40

And so they went on. this. Quest.

1:00:42

To kind of figure out how they did that and turned

1:00:44

out that. Disney. Came up

1:00:46

with this whole process for of.

1:00:50

Cysts. Like up with a

1:00:53

call it is like a filter, but

1:00:55

it filters out one very specific spectrum

1:00:57

of light and then they use that

1:00:59

like color to. Light the background

1:01:01

so that they can knock it out and

1:01:03

and all in camera and it creates. To

1:01:06

separate pieces of film that they can replace.

1:01:08

And it's it's wilde. But. They

1:01:10

recreate this and the Chris the filters.

1:01:13

my crystal put the filter. the whatever

1:01:15

the thing is a physical thing that

1:01:17

they used to separate the slight. The.

1:01:20

Room they made like three of them

1:01:22

and nobody knows where they are these

1:01:24

two months. So court or recreates with

1:01:27

this scientists. got a recreate this thing

1:01:29

to be able to. Do

1:01:31

the same process now on footage and

1:01:33

they do a side by side between

1:01:35

shooting this really complex thing on green

1:01:37

screen and then they sued it with

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this method. It's really cool. Like

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is that like this is a corridor the guys are

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to the cool computer stuff. Yep! Yep,

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weird intersection of you know, some

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work in making in. There

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that Disney Dead to take that the goes.

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class reflection thing that they were gonna.

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show that you're talking about. And

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they know of us how they would

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make a nanny since you? yeah.

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of the African as a little glass so

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and looks like you have this like human

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look, you see the chair but then there's

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a piece a class in front of you.

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to image risk sets reflecting off of it

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and he uses this like transparent person system.

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is also has its in that show that you mentioned

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earlier. Yeah. Imagine

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and think there's a local stuff like

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that like in that in that series

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where they talk about how they came

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up with. I'm like on haunted mansion

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the little globe that has a the

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video of a like of head. Singing.

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whole name for that some. New. Yeah

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