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the wide receiver room looks like right now. There's
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a couple of questions coming up later in the show. What
3:02
does the in-season progression have to be
3:04
for Xavier Worthy? But we gotta start
3:06
where we start, and that is at
3:09
the beginning. He's gonna walk in. What's
3:11
his role to begin the season? The
3:14
guy's a burner. He's obviously a little bit underweight,
3:16
although I will say, I do believe the reports,
3:19
that he played at a heavier weight than he ran at
3:21
the combine at 165. More
3:24
of like a 172, 173 range, which
3:26
isn't a huge plus,
3:29
but it's better than 165, right? Well,
3:32
and Veach came out and said that he
3:34
was planning on him trying to play at 175 to 180. I
3:37
mean, he said they'd get in with the nutritionist, and
3:39
that was my big thing, is that looking
3:42
at what he did to prepare for the combine, you
3:44
try to drop as much possible weight as you can, and
3:47
you run a little bit faster. That's exactly what
3:49
he did. Worked out for him,
3:51
got the number one speed at the combine,
3:53
and him gaining seven pounds,
3:55
or 10 pounds, or 15 pounds, isn't
3:58
going to slow him down. It's gonna slow him
4:00
down a little bit, but it's not gonna be enough
4:03
to be a huge deal. So
4:05
I do think that when you look at his
4:07
role, I go
4:09
back to what Kansas City did with Tyree Kill. Go
4:13
back and look what they did with him early on in
4:15
his career. They made him the returner. Make
4:18
Xavier worthy the returner if he can win that
4:20
job. If he does that, it
4:22
does a couple of things for you. But if he
4:24
does that, it probably opens up another roster spot for
4:26
you because I think we were thinking that they'd have
4:28
a different returner. But
4:31
it also gives him a chance to figure
4:34
out what he's doing in one specific role
4:36
as a wide receiver in this offense. I'm
4:39
not saying he can't learn some of all
4:41
three of the positions, but have him focus
4:43
on one of the positions and
4:45
get good at that one position. Because
4:47
I do think that that's possibly
4:50
what has slowed some wide receivers down
4:52
in this offense. He's not
4:54
a professional like Brown who I expect to be able
4:56
to step in and understand the offense a little bit
4:58
better. And
5:00
that's fair. The experience level there
5:03
is drastically different. I mean, back when Tyree
5:05
was here, they even had him in the
5:07
backfield, saw him taking carries.
5:10
It's a little bit of everything. I felt like
5:12
at the time, that was more of an exploration of
5:14
what he can do. Whereas I think
5:16
where there's a little bit more of a known quantity.
5:18
So I agree with you. I would put him in the
5:20
slot and just let him do
5:22
his thing, learn that role, and then
5:24
expand much like we saw Rashid Rice progress
5:27
last season. Starting
5:29
in that one spot, I think
5:31
allows him to make an impact in
5:34
a specific way. Maybe it's too small a way
5:36
for what you're hoping, but it is
5:38
relegated and let him get good at that.
5:40
I like the return idea. I think that's
5:43
a way that he could impact ball games
5:45
like instantly. But
5:47
my only question is then... Sorry,
5:50
go ahead. My
5:52
only question becomes is, is
5:54
that enough for another first round
5:56
pick? I know the fan base
5:58
is antsy after Felix and... I didn't make
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the field much last year. I Get
6:03
the kind of sense that Andy Reads
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excited to get him into the mix right away.
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So I just don't know if that that patient's
6:10
level is there Well, I
6:12
think to me at least it looks like the I
6:14
think that they're going to look at it And they're
6:16
gonna have the patience and I and it doesn't necessarily
6:19
have to be And maybe
6:21
you break it down a little bit differently. Maybe it's
6:23
not just slot work Maybe he's also
6:25
the gadget guy and maybe that's his focus
6:27
Maybe he's running, you know all
6:29
the motions that you've been talking You know that
6:31
we had Nicole Hardman run at times last year
6:34
and and we've seen other receivers
6:36
run Maybe he's that type of guy where
6:38
you can get him You know the slot roll
6:40
and the gadget guy type role where he's
6:42
doing the motions and and running all
6:44
over the field plus If he's in motion you
6:46
give him basically almost
6:48
you can get him almost close to full
6:50
speed before the snap and At
6:52
that point you're really taking advantage of his speed even more
6:55
So I do think that there's different ways to get him
6:57
involved I do think that there's different things that they can
6:59
do to where he doesn't have to
7:01
just be one in one position all the time But
7:04
being that slot guy is gonna help him as well
7:06
I mean, I think that you look at you know
7:08
lining up off the ball not getting a Jam
7:12
every single time he's out there I think is going to
7:14
help his skills and that's the other reason why I think
7:16
it's so important to get him Going
7:19
in the right direction early on and not try
7:21
to throw him into all three different wide receiver
7:23
roles Is because one of the things
7:25
he's gonna have to work on is is playing through some
7:28
of the jams He's gonna see at the next level, you
7:30
know Hand-fighting getting free releases
7:32
off the line of scrimmage all those things.
7:34
He's gonna have to work through as a
7:36
new wide receiver And
7:39
I think your motion idea plays into that as
7:41
well It keeps that distance so
7:43
that it's not somebody right in his face
7:45
or more importantly in his chest plate right
7:47
away I think that's a really
7:50
good way to start it out But
7:52
that can't be all of it. You have to
7:54
progress through the season It has to be what
7:57
is the plan and I do expect that there
7:59
is a plan for Xavier Worthy,
8:01
we might not know all of it right at
8:03
this moment, but I do believe that it's there.
8:05
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8:07
role to the next and on
8:09
and how fast can this progression be as
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hit that like bell as well. We have, I think,
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a really interesting progression here. If
10:15
it wasn't for the arrival of Hollywood Brown,
10:17
I would say Xavier Worthy needs to be
10:19
fast-tracked. He needs to bring
10:21
that element of speed over the top to
10:23
press, especially deep coverages, and
10:25
back some of these defenses off that we
10:28
saw change again last season without
10:30
that threat. But for
10:33
me, what I want to see happen for
10:35
Xavier Worthy is to start in that role that we talked
10:37
about, whether it's slot
10:39
specific or it adds
10:42
a couple of layers there in terms of being
10:44
the utility guy. The problem with that is I
10:46
think you want to try to get him transitioned
10:48
to the outside as well. He was a 60%
10:50
slot guy at Texas. So
10:52
he's got to run some outside. And
10:54
I do think that that is more
10:57
advantageous to the offense. And I think, honestly,
10:59
it opens up what you can do with
11:01
Skymore as well as Kaderi's Tony. And I
11:03
think in terms of fitting into the overall
11:05
offense, that's probably got to be a
11:07
goal maybe faster than it was with Rishi
11:10
Rice. Yeah,
11:13
and I can understand that. I
11:15
think it's going to be very hard to get all
11:17
the player makers on this offense on the field. And
11:20
I think that's a great problem to have. I mean, you
11:22
talk about Skymore and you talk about Kaderi's Tony, there's going
11:24
to be questions as to when they're going to get on
11:26
the field, how they're going to get on the field. Rishi
11:30
Rice, we don't know when he's going to be available
11:32
this season, if he's going to have
11:34
a suspension this year or not. That's something that's still up at the
11:36
air. So we'll see how that goes. And
11:39
that's going to change things. If he's suspended
11:41
for part of the season, that'll change what
11:43
you can do with your different wide receivers. But you
11:46
look at what Brown is going to bring in this team. You're
11:48
right. He brings speed. He is going to give you a guy
11:50
that can go burn off the top and
11:52
take the top off a defense by himself. And
11:54
then you add another guy worthy in there. And
11:56
you have even more speed, which is
11:58
fantastic. So you can have. either of those guys
12:01
maybe somewhat interchangeable at times,
12:04
which would be fantastic for this chief's
12:07
offense. My big thing is I
12:09
just don't wanna see a situation where he's
12:11
not getting on the field because he doesn't know
12:13
all three positions. You have to use him as
12:16
much as you possibly can. And if you
12:19
have to get cute and creative, and it
12:21
has to be around the goal
12:23
line or it's the end arounds or it's
12:26
the jet motions or any of those types
12:28
of sweeps, that's fine, use him
12:30
for that. And here's the other
12:32
side of it, with Brown still on the team, you
12:34
could use worthy to an extent as a
12:37
decoy. And it's still gonna
12:39
open up things. So I do think that
12:42
it's gonna be intriguing to see how they use him. But
12:44
I don't think it's something where he has to absolutely
12:47
be a huge target
12:49
year one. I'm not saying don't get
12:51
him the ball, I'm just saying he doesn't have to be
12:53
a focal point and he can grow into being
12:55
a focal point. Yeah,
12:57
and that's fair and you bring up a good point. With
13:00
Hollywood Brown on a one year contract,
13:03
it's probably about the evolution of
13:06
what you can do that is similar, like you said, in
13:08
similar roles, doing some of the same things. I
13:11
hope that what we see is a progression like we
13:14
saw with Rishi Raisway thought. It started
13:16
to click, I don't
13:18
know, after the buy. But it wasn't until
13:20
the playoffs really, that I felt like he could do
13:23
pretty much anything that they needed him
13:25
to do. Was I being
13:27
stingy with that or did you see something
13:29
progress faster? I
13:32
don't know that you're being stingy. I think that he
13:34
probably started to get a little bit
13:36
more comfortable after the buy. And I think that he started
13:38
probably playing outside a little bit more, but it wasn't noticeable
13:40
cuz he wasn't getting the ball. But
13:43
the skill sets really are really what's going
13:45
to be a challenge to me to
13:48
compare the two. I mean, their skill sets are
13:50
so different. Rishi Rais wins in
13:52
a different way than worthy does. And I
13:55
get what you're saying and I don't disagree
13:57
that they need to figure out different ways to use
13:59
them, I guess. where I'm really going with it is make
14:02
sure that you do whatever you can to get him as
14:04
comfortable as you can as early as you can. And
14:07
if he can't progress and get the full playbook down
14:09
for all three positions by the end of the year,
14:11
I don't think that's as big of a deal this
14:13
year, especially since I have Brown, as you said. But
14:16
they also have a guy in Travis Kelsey who's still
14:18
gonna be the number one wide receiver. I
14:20
mean, that's the reality of it is worthy
14:22
is gonna step into a room where at
14:24
best he's probably the fourth option if they
14:26
have all of their receivers on the field.
14:30
If they have Rice, if they have Kelsey and they
14:32
have Brown, he's still probably number four. I'm
14:36
not saying that he has to be the
14:38
fourth option, sorry, go ahead. Now
14:40
that's a great possibility that you
14:43
have to contend with. If
14:45
that is the case, then again, like you said,
14:48
you can get to the point where
14:50
you're feathering him in
14:52
or sprinkling him over the top. And
14:55
then it becomes the X factor of what
14:57
the defense is expecting. When you
14:59
look at what Rashi Rice did, he got to the
15:01
point where in the playoff run, it was pretty much
15:03
even 29 and 31, 37, 34, 31, 34 in the Super
15:05
Bowl. For
15:10
where he lined up and I think if you can get to
15:12
that point with him
15:15
taking some snaps so that he and Hollywood are on
15:17
the field together at the same time. And
15:19
Xavier takes a few snaps from Kidarius Tony
15:22
or whoever, so that he's inside as
15:24
well. I think that that's the way the balance
15:26
that you're looking for. I don't think long term
15:28
he's gonna be a 50-50 alignment
15:31
wide receiver. But I think
15:33
he could be that this season that's probably best for him
15:36
if he can get to that point. Yeah.
15:39
And if he can get to a point where he understands
15:41
the full offense that he can run all the routes and
15:43
do what they wanted to do, I'm
15:45
more power to him and great. I'm
15:48
not gonna be shocked if Andy Reid doesn't do
15:50
something that doesn't try to do things this year
15:52
with worthy that he didn't do in college.
15:57
See what he can do running the ball, see what he can do
15:59
coming out. back field on
16:02
different things. I mean, just use him in
16:05
different areas because like I said, I mean, and I
16:08
think the biggest key to me is knowing
16:10
that Worthy doesn't have to be a top three
16:12
option at wide receiver or
16:14
as a pass catcher gives you
16:16
the ability to really experiment and see if he
16:19
can do other things that you don't necessarily, we
16:21
didn't necessarily see him do in college. Yeah,
16:24
I completely agree with you. Well,
16:26
I think what happens next is then
16:29
how does that lay out for wide
16:31
receiver room when it's been very full, seven wide receivers
16:33
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16:35
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19:01
the list. Maybe not number one, but certainly in
19:03
the top five. I think he walks into it
19:05
to us possibility to be on the field to
19:07
start week one. But what does that
19:10
do to the rest of the room? I think
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it's really, really deep. Do you see them?
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19:16
having to keep seven receivers again? I
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don't think they're keeping seven receivers. I think it's
19:21
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19:24
they're in a position where you
19:26
could make an argument that they would need to keep
19:28
seven wide receivers. You
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know, one of the things that we haven't discussed,
19:32
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19:35
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when this show airs, the
19:40
Chiefs have a deadline to pick up various
19:43
Tony's fifth-year option. Now,
19:46
it's not a deadline, but it's not going to get
19:48
picked up. So I don't think it's really a big
19:50
issue, but he does only have one
19:52
year left on his deal. You got Sky Moore still here
19:54
for a couple more years. You're
19:57
going to be in a situation where you have...
20:00
Questions it's multiple different areas
20:02
that the wide in the wide receiver and I agree
20:04
with you I think he steps in and he's probably
20:06
already in the top three without taking
20:08
a snap Brown rice
20:10
and worthy. I think are your top three wide
20:12
receivers That
20:15
leaves you three more roster spots
20:17
probably for a combination of Tony
20:20
more Watson and
20:22
Ross and Romeo not to mention anybody
20:24
else that could possibly try to make
20:26
a roster now,
20:29
there are other issues that we that we ran
20:31
into last year is your We
20:35
thought that they had all this wide receiver
20:37
depth that they never really ended up having
20:39
so that that causes another issue I
20:41
mean I'm talking about being
20:44
a deep and wide receiver with questions of
20:46
can they make their roster? Okay Well, how
20:48
many of those really deserve to have a chance to
20:50
make the roster? We don't really know until we see
20:52
them in training camp probably Very
20:55
true because a lot of those guys need to make
20:58
a progression Romeo
21:00
coming off the Injury certainly
21:02
has to show some progression Very difficult for him
21:04
to do at the end of the day unless
21:06
he makes it as a returner He's a fear
21:09
worthy is not gonna be returner. Then
21:11
I don't see Nico Ramesio making this roster right now
21:13
I see him as a practice guard guide to get
21:15
that red shirt here that he
21:17
needs really and then maybe next season It's
21:19
oh, hey, he's fully healthy. He's been in
21:21
the playbook now He's practiced like that's I
21:24
think probably one of the better scenarios for
21:26
him. But For
21:28
me, I'm not if they
21:33
Want to protect his avear worth? He just doesn't click on
21:35
the whole playbook right away I do think
21:37
Justin Watson is a guy that they keep and they
21:39
run it X and they keep him on the roster
21:41
Regardless, so I would put him as
21:43
one of the top four with Cadairies Tony and
21:45
Skymore right behind them That doesn't leave any room.
21:48
The only thing that I think could force a
21:51
possible Justin Ross Or who else?
21:53
Entre Washington possibly onto the
21:56
roster would be an announced
21:58
suspension for Rishi rice and I know people have
22:00
been talking about that. It's
22:02
going to happen. He will be suspended. We don't
22:04
know exactly how long, but it looks like it's
22:06
going to be significant. Yeah,
22:09
but we don't even know if it's going to be 2024. That's
22:11
the other part that we don't know. If
22:13
his trial doesn't actually start, if his
22:16
stuff doesn't really start until September,
22:18
October, November, he may not be suspended at
22:20
all this year. So that's up in
22:22
the air as well. And really,
22:25
you bring up a guy like Justin Ross, all
22:29
the talent in the world. You
22:31
saw it at times in training camp. You saw it
22:33
in one-on-ones what he's able to do. It's can he
22:35
be in the playbook? Can
22:38
he understand where he's supposed to be? Can he be where he's supposed
22:40
to be on the field? Does he know
22:42
the offense? He's been here
22:44
long enough where he's not in the same
22:46
boat as worthy. He should be able to
22:48
run at all three positions of the offense
22:50
and know all three wide receiver positions. I
22:55
understand, and there's an argument to be made
22:57
that you make
23:00
exceptions for players that have
23:02
extreme talent with
23:04
what he has shown on the field. I don't
23:06
think that he fits into that category. So to
23:09
me, he's probably one of the first guys
23:11
or one of the last guys cut, but
23:15
it's a question of what are they going to do with Kaderi's Tony?
23:17
What are they going to do with Skymore? Are they going to give
23:19
both of those guys a chance this year? Both
23:22
of them know all three wide receiver positions, so it's
23:25
not knowing the offense. It's have
23:27
they seen progression and can they keep going forward?
23:30
And the other thing I think that's me.
23:33
Sorry, I just gonna say the other
23:35
thing that sticks out to me with this wide receiver room is
23:38
they didn't change the wide receiver coach, which I
23:40
have an issue with, but that's a whole different
23:42
discussion. I
23:44
thought you might bring that up, and that's what I was going to
23:46
say is, can you expect change
23:49
out of Kaderi's Tony or
23:51
Skymore without a change of
23:53
leadership in the room from the coach? I'm not
23:55
sure. I would hope so, But
23:58
it comes down to... They're.
24:00
still pumping very tony up. About
24:03
him being a town has anybody in the room just
24:05
the other day from bread which. I. Wonder
24:07
if it's not a let's showcase him and try
24:09
to get a trade. Or
24:12
mean they can try it. I just don't know
24:15
why that is movie training form of this when
24:17
after once you want to do last season ah
24:19
the T using he's been working with mom's amongst
24:21
gonna have a better idea than anybody else other
24:23
of. That is. Dealing
24:25
with his roster. so I'm yeah. Oh, he
24:27
talked about Watson. They'd save a little bit
24:29
of money can he wants? And I'm not
24:32
saying they should. under sainted they'd save a
24:34
little bit of money selling Watson. I think
24:36
that they'd save a little money. tallied sky
24:38
more. Like. To there is.
24:40
Tony is basically here on and on as
24:42
one year deal on one year deal left
24:44
ends in August. save you think telling him
24:46
so money wise it really doesn't matter. It's
24:48
a question of how you want your roster
24:50
filled out in the other side of it
24:52
for the money's. Look. At the
24:54
cheese sorry tap, they don't have a money issue
24:56
right now. They could technically they wanted to on
24:58
try to sign some free agents to. They have
25:00
money to be able to do that, which is
25:02
not something they normally have after the draft. More.
25:07
Absolutely that comes in handy if you're trying
25:09
to add players and they are trying out
25:11
a few players. Been a couple of turning
25:14
spots on the the of rookie tryouts for
25:16
this weekend tomorrow folks. Rid of break. Kings.
25:19
To a mathies of role and how that affects
25:21
the rest of the room. And. We're going
25:23
to go through each of the draft picks
25:25
as we go through. Will have news for
25:27
you from on the rookie events here. communism
25:29
this weekend as well but stay with us.
25:31
We're going to run all the way down
25:33
through everybody who could impact this roster to
25:35
so had some great draft classes make huge.
25:37
Implications. Into each of the championships,
25:40
so we're gonna continue down that path we
25:42
present. Yeah, One thing
25:44
that I did see today Matt Miller I
25:46
think was the one the handed out. His
25:49
top one fifty from the
25:51
draft. Cease. Of leave
25:53
at five different players. From.
25:56
It's top one fifth of for wealth from
25:59
where he races. Pigs. With.
26:01
Where they went on teams. That's. Where
26:03
he looked at him is where where he thoughts
26:05
on a and what was or two hundred and.
26:09
Two. Hundred Sixty Seven. Picture something like that.
26:11
Yeah. So. He is five of
26:13
the to use seven picks made his top
26:15
one fifty or his top one hundred. Something
26:17
like that is pretty impressive just to see
26:19
some the different players worthy was one of
26:21
the highest. that accusing the top ten. So.
26:24
Tell me if there's a lot of guy on there.
26:27
With. People. Around the
26:30
league thinking or people around in media in
26:32
the league thinking that see Sichuan their draft
26:34
and I think it they continue to show
26:36
that year after year. And
26:39
we have to be able to keep plugging
26:41
a man's We're going to keep doing that
26:43
for you as well. Join: some are going
26:46
to go over consumer to his and take
26:48
a quick preview of the coming rookie minicamp.
26:50
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