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with exhibit where the and the past has he

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croock? Is there some hiccups going on right now.

3:04

But to start it all off, Matt, it's about

3:06

adapting to what is a New Year in a

3:09

lot of different ways. Noxious with a rookie class

3:11

and there's a lot of little wrinkles going on.

3:14

I. Think the most interesting one is.

3:16

What? I'm gonna call the actual

3:18

reunification of special teams and actual

3:21

football because Harrison Bucher might lose

3:23

half of his work this season.

3:25

The. Way that they're going about the new kick off rules.

3:28

Looks. Like they're going to experiment at least.

3:30

With. Not using here's and but because of the way

3:32

that the line for their the collisions you're trying

3:34

to avoid. And. They're getting some fresh

3:37

feet. I guess we should say into

3:39

the lineup on somebody Specialty maneuvers. Tell

3:41

us what you saw would What's your

3:43

take away from that concept? yeah

3:45

you know with the way that the new

3:47

kick off or was gonna work and mean

3:49

you basically have one line of defense you've

3:52

got your as the kick team you've got

3:54

one line that lined up on the other

3:56

side of the sistine that's gonna be trying

3:58

to make the tackle of the rich And

4:01

obviously the rules are designed to promote return. So

4:03

the theory is that you're going to have a

4:05

return on most of the time. I

4:07

mean it's absolutely incentivized to the kick team

4:09

to make sure that you force a return.

4:11

And you can't – there's no

4:14

fair catches. There's nothing of that nature. So

4:17

unless the kickoff team puts the ball

4:19

out of bounds, kicks it

4:21

short of the landing zone or puts it into

4:23

the end zone, you're going to return that kick.

4:25

And so with the one line of defense, what

4:28

Dave Tobes said is that they watched every

4:30

kickoff play in the XFL that had the same

4:32

rule. And between

4:35

25-40% of the plays

4:37

involved the kicker in some way, whether the kicker actually had to

4:39

make a tackle, had to be in

4:41

the area to possibly make a tackle. How

4:44

you define involved in the play might

4:46

vary a little bit. But

4:48

even at the low end, I mean 25%,

4:50

you don't normally have the kicker involved in

4:52

the tackle that high a percentage most of

4:54

the time. So yeah, you don't – I

4:56

mean certainly you want – you don't want

4:58

to expose your kicker to having to make that

5:00

play, risk himself by making a

5:03

tackle or going to the ground and missing.

5:05

We've seen kickers hurt themselves that way. You

5:07

just don't want it. So do you want

5:09

an extra tackler? Well, and

5:11

the Chiefs, they've cut two guys that have

5:13

some experience in kicking a ball. Not

5:16

always a football. In Luis Rees-Zamit's

5:18

case, we got to see

5:20

his leg on Thursday,

5:22

and he's got a decent leg kicking a football.

5:25

I mean, you know, he looks very similar to

5:27

Justin Reed. And as Dave Tobes said

5:29

too, I mean, another thing that's going to

5:31

change, hang time doesn't matter anymore. If

5:34

anything, the thing that teams really want to

5:36

try and do is they want to get

5:38

that ball into the most uncomfortable position possible

5:40

for the return team. So they don't have

5:42

time to think. You know, maybe they're dealing

5:44

with a squibby kick that's moving around a

5:46

lot, a knuckleball. I mean, that's the kind

5:48

of thing that you want to do. So

5:51

honestly, I mean, Justin Reed and Luis

5:53

Rees-Zamit's kicks fit in perfectly with that.

5:57

There might be times that you still want to

5:59

touch back. You know because the ball comes

6:01

out at the 30 without having

6:03

the rules in front of me. I forget right What's

6:05

the 30 or the water comes out? It comes out

6:07

to a different place every single if it's depending on

6:09

the outcome I mean it comes out to the 40

6:12

if you're kicking the ball out of bounds. I mean

6:14

it's Yeah, it's it's wacky But

6:16

you know as Dave Chubb said hey if you're

6:18

late in the game and you don't want to

6:20

risk a return On a team against you because

6:22

you've got a lead and you're trying to milk

6:24

the clock a little bit Then maybe

6:26

Harrison Buckner's going to go out there and just bang one through the

6:28

end zone But in the current,

6:30

you know situation and they're just a normal

6:33

play Um, she's a good experiment

6:35

with it. Now whether they take it into the regular

6:37

season we'll find out But I

6:39

don't think there's any doubt from watching

6:41

practices that we've had so far The

6:44

kickoff play is going to be an action play,

6:46

right? I mean there is going to be something

6:48

happening on every single kickoff And I

6:50

think at this level with these players as good as

6:52

they are And and having some

6:54

different guys back returning kicks I mean tobes talked

6:56

about how they maybe are going to be favoring

6:58

more of a running back style rather than

7:01

a kick You know a receiver style. I

7:03

mean you're gonna have different talents back there I mean,

7:05

I think you're gonna see a bunch of touchdowns this

7:08

year and i'm not sure the NFL is ready for

7:10

that I don't either.

7:12

I mean it's all gas all the time with these

7:14

rule changes and for the team in

7:16

particular I I like what you're saying because I

7:20

got asked on rgr a few weeks ago. Hey,

7:22

you know, is there any truth? Why wouldn't you

7:24

have harris and bucker do this? And

7:26

I said honestly unless it proves out to

7:28

be enough volume I can

7:30

I can deal with him making a tackle once

7:33

in a while if it's 25 plus then absolutely

7:35

not So I have to change my whole outlook

7:37

on that And I think until

7:39

we see it we're still going to see evolution I

7:41

don't think we're going to have it all down But

7:44

I love the aspect of the running back

7:46

what dave tobe said about the running back

7:48

style Rather than the the

7:50

what I interpret that as a more get to

7:53

the corner and get vertical wide receiver style of

7:55

return It's just going to be a little bit

7:57

more short area. It's going to be

7:59

a little bit more passive It's gonna be more

8:02

collisions that aren't necessarily the devastating kind that we're

8:04

worried about concussion wise But it's gonna

8:06

be a more physical aspect of the game and

8:08

anytime that happens The outcomes get pretty

8:10

varied and that's what I'm looking for in particular

8:14

I love the concept of Justin

8:16

Reed being a guy that you know can make

8:18

an old field tackle whenever he wants to I

8:21

can't say that about Lewis re-zamit I'd

8:23

need to see him make a tackle before I feel

8:26

confident about that at all the kicking part of second

8:28

nature, right? That's part of rugby. I don't think that's

8:30

gonna be a challenge but I love the

8:32

concept because if you were able to

8:34

take an international player like him and He's

8:37

getting first-team reps in as a returner as

8:39

well and turn him into a guy that

8:41

has a shot at the 53 can actually

8:43

contribute Fresh off of

8:45

a pitch in Wales. I

8:47

see that is not only Adapting to

8:50

the game as as best or better than the rest

8:52

of the league But an

8:54

absolute coup in the way that you

8:56

approach Evaluating and bringing in

8:58

talent. Is that something that

9:01

I should start really opening up to a

9:03

fact that could be reality Yeah,

9:06

absolutely I mean, you know And

9:09

I don't think that in I'm giving

9:11

away anything here that you know would

9:13

fall afoul of the Chiefs reporting rules

9:15

for closed practices But I

9:18

mean and and there's going to be a

9:20

lot of experimentation like I've been talking about

9:22

But you know you talked about the running back

9:25

style and the way that this play is now

9:27

designed You know It certainly seems like

9:29

that You know one way that it can be interpreted

9:31

and teams can interpret it and try to you know

9:33

at least maybe try to take advantage of

9:36

it early is that you know, it's gonna look like a

9:38

running play and a lot of senses because You

9:40

know, it's not as much about just hitting the hole and

9:42

getting up field as quickly as possible Now

9:45

it's going to be about truly setting up a run I

9:47

mean it's gonna be setting up your blocks and

9:50

so I think you're gonna see at least

9:52

the Chiefs Experimenting early with you know, I

9:54

would almost call it maybe an outside zone

9:58

Run blocking of the kickoff I

10:00

mean, because you're seeing and one thing

10:02

is that teams are, it

10:04

certainly seems like from at least the

10:06

perspective I've seen thus far, teams

10:09

are going to try and kick at the corners. They're

10:11

going to be leaning on placement. They want to bottle

10:13

up the ball in a corner of the field and

10:15

be able to descend on that to contain the player.

10:19

The returner is going to try and get to the outside

10:21

as much as possible. I mean, the

10:24

way you look at it, I mean, and

10:26

I've only watched probably about 30

10:28

seconds of rugby consecutively in my life, but

10:31

it kind of looks like what I see from rugby.

10:34

So, you know, is it something that Luis

10:36

Rezaemut has done before, may have some experience

10:38

with? I mean, I think

10:41

that the toughest part for him is going

10:43

to be catching the ball because

10:45

the rugby ball is different. So even catching, I

10:47

mean, even though that's something that he's got some

10:49

experience with, it's a different ball. So

10:52

hey, it's smaller. So maybe in theory, that should be

10:54

a little bit easier. He's just going to have to

10:56

make sure he gets those elbows together. The

10:59

ball doesn't go through his hands or anything. And

11:02

carrying the ball, I mean, that's going to be continuing to

11:04

be a lesson for him. But with his speed, I think

11:06

it's interesting. Even

11:09

if I had seen this, I couldn't tell you if

11:11

I saw it, Ryan, but I'm really

11:13

intrigued too about with Rezaemut

11:16

and the ability of, you know, pitching the

11:18

ball or, you know, doing some of the

11:20

things that she's done because they've shown some

11:22

of those things before, you know, even on

11:25

punt returns about, you know, trying to change

11:27

directions and flipping the ball or handoffs, anything

11:29

of that nature. I think the kickoffs might

11:31

be really built for it. And Rezaemut would

11:33

definitely be built for that because he's run

11:35

those kind of plays before. I

11:38

like the clarity there and I like what it can bring. Who

11:41

isn't out there and who do we have to

11:43

adapt to the rest of the time when we're

11:45

not doing this new exciting stuff, when we're talking

11:48

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13:57

so far this week, a little bit, you know,

13:59

a little balloon. Thumbs up makes me a

14:01

little bit nervous Xavier Worthy has a hamstring

14:04

We've heard about this before he is on

14:06

the thinner side. He's had a couple of

14:08

hamstring issues in the past before I don't

14:10

think it's anything earth-shattering except for the fact

14:12

that with the Rishi rice situation There's a possibility you

14:14

need to get him on the field maybe even

14:16

faster than you got Rishi on the field So

14:19

any detriment to what Xavier Worthy

14:21

is doing right now at OTAs?

14:25

Well, you know you've done the head right?

14:27

I mean you'd love to have him out

14:29

there Especially on a day like Thursday when

14:31

Hollywood Brown wasn't there There

14:33

were more reps to go around an opportunity

14:35

to maybe get a little bit different looks

14:37

and you know And with with Hollywood

14:39

not out there even being maybe the primary read

14:41

on a little bit few more snaps So I

14:43

mean you're missing that possible pop, you know kind

14:46

of activity So what's Xavier

14:48

Worthy doing? I mean he's getting the mental reps

14:50

and when you know If you've ever been to a

14:52

training camp practice, you know, usually you talk about

14:54

mental reps You're talking about a player, you know either

14:56

being on the sidelines Sometimes they'll even like be behind

14:58

the team and watching the play develop. We talk a

15:01

lot about about quarterbacks You know be standing behind

15:03

the line of scrimmage Watching the play so that they

15:05

can at least get a perspective over and think about

15:07

okay Where would I be going with the football here

15:09

being able to see through it? Sometimes you'll see

15:11

a quarterback even you know Physically going through the motions

15:14

of being on the play on the field on the

15:16

snap The interesting thing about like

15:18

today and and you know And even last

15:20

week too when we saw Worthy out on

15:22

the field is that he's been really

15:24

engaged I mean sometimes guys when we talk about

15:26

them, you know being injured and be on the field They're

15:29

more cheerleader or you know, if they're more

15:31

veterans they're just kind of going through the motions

15:34

a little bit or being out there for

15:36

just the you know camaraderie or Just

15:38

that you know be kind of soak things up. I mean

15:40

and this is no not that it's a good example I

15:42

mean veterans like Charles and Minahue

15:44

and Derek naughty They were

15:46

indoors in the facility getting their getting

15:48

their training getting their rehab done about

15:51

30 minutes in the practice They come out and you know

15:53

and they stand with their team on the sideline go

15:55

through that Worthy during

15:58

today's practice was actually standing next Matt

16:00

Nagy. And Matt Nagy's calling in the

16:02

play and you know via the walkie-talkie

16:04

and sending in to my homes or

16:06

the quarterback, whoever the quarterback is during

16:08

each snap. And then Worthy

16:11

is going after each play is

16:13

telling Nagy you know what he would have

16:15

been doing on the field, where he would

16:17

have been, where he was lining up, what

16:19

would be his responsibility. So he gets, he's

16:21

hearing Nagy make the play call to the

16:24

quarterback and then he's telling Nagy, okay

16:26

here's where I would line be lining up, here's what

16:28

I'm going to be doing, hey if the corner's lined

16:30

up the way he is right now here's what I

16:32

should do. That was his responsibility.

16:34

And so I've, I haven't seen

16:37

you know a player like

16:39

that, I mean even in

16:41

a rookie situation, I've never seen one

16:43

who just spent the entire practice

16:45

next to the coordinator, having that

16:47

kind of you know one-on-one feedback

16:49

and instruction and everything. I

16:52

think it absolutely reinforces what we've been hearing about

16:54

Xavier Worthy and that he's a student of the

16:56

game, that he's a smart guy, he's obviously putting

16:58

the work in in the ways that he wants

17:01

to. So yeah I mean I

17:03

think you're seeing the Chiefs absolutely being very

17:05

very cautious with this, you know it's only

17:07

been described as a tweak, not a serious

17:10

injury, they just don't want him to exacerbate

17:12

it. So they're going to take their time with him,

17:14

but the fact that he's able to get that kind

17:16

of mental work in, I think

17:18

is pretty important. I

17:20

agree and I like the idea of the running pop

17:22

quiz, it's a more engaged

17:25

interactive way to take your quote-unquote mental reps than

17:27

just relying on the player to observe it. And

17:29

I love that concept, but you hit

17:31

it on the head, not only is he out, now

17:34

Hollywood's not practicing today on Thursday,

17:36

there's Tony out as well. A,

17:39

that makes me just a little bit concerned that everybody's

17:42

out all at once, but this is me,

17:44

so we're not going to get too uptight about it. So

17:46

my question becomes, with the top three out and Rashid

17:48

obviously there, who else is getting reps and who's making

17:50

the most of them at the wide receiver group? Yeah

17:54

generally I would be saying it's the usual

17:56

suspects, I mean Rashid's obviously getting a lot

17:58

of work, Skyy Moore's been getting a

18:00

lot of work Justin Watts in that group. I

18:02

think the one that stands out the most

18:04

that was getting some reps with the first

18:06

team offense and okay, it's a

18:08

little bit of a gray area, but since Matt

18:11

and Aggie also mentioned that we can get it

18:13

into the conversation Ryan without running a foul of

18:15

the rules. It's Nico Remillo.

18:18

He has definitely shown progress from last year.

18:20

I mean, even as good as a training

18:22

camp that he was having last year before

18:24

the injury, you can tell. He

18:27

looks bigger as far as just physical bulk

18:30

and strength. I mean, it definitely looks like that

18:32

he's been putting in a lot of time with

18:34

the lower body. He's definitely got

18:36

more of a thick structure to him, I'd say, this

18:39

year than he did last year. That

18:41

should be good for a guy like him who is

18:43

a little bit smaller to be thicker and bulkier. It

18:46

doesn't look like it's affected his speed at all

18:49

because he looks just as fast as ever out

18:51

there on the field. We'll

18:54

see. He has

18:56

been involved in some of the return abilities. I think

18:58

he would absolutely maybe be in the conversation for return

19:00

duties if he's going to make this team. That's one

19:02

way you're going to have to contribute if you're a

19:05

guy like him. You

19:07

wonder if when Dave Tobes talking about needing more

19:09

of a running back style, whether he'd be involved

19:11

in the kick return as much, maybe there's other

19:13

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19:16

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19:18

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19:20

these guys out of the lineup. He's

19:23

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19:25

They're giving him a hard, hard look right now. I'd

19:28

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19:30

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19:33

without Kaderi's Tony there for sure, I

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19:44

even a Justin Ross. Ross

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is certainly getting his own opportunities too, but

19:49

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19:51

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20:00

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23:01

got shouted out today from the coaches that I

23:03

really am intrigued to hear your interpretation of. One

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rookie Jaden Hicks, the fact

23:08

that they're moving him all around Dave Merritt

23:10

is talking about him being the prototype in

23:13

size and smarts and the ability to move

23:15

into different roles. I think that's a theme

23:17

that we see across every safety on the

23:19

roster. What stands out about Hicks and how

23:22

he's on the field right now? Yeah

23:25

there's definitely a couple of things and one

23:27

is absolutely the flexibility. You know Dave Merritt

23:29

talked today about the fact that you know

23:31

they're preparing him to be able to play

23:34

both safety positions plus a really a dime

23:36

linebacker spot when you're

23:38

talking about the nickel that's really going

23:40

to be more Chamari Connors kind of

23:42

you know vain but are there going

23:44

to be opportunities where you probably see

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the C's with four safeties on the

23:49

field and maybe it's both Connor and

23:51

it's Hicks because Hicks is you know

23:53

and he can interchange you know I

23:55

mean absolutely being he's another guy that you can

23:57

you know flip in there so that if You

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want him to play strong safety and

24:02

you want Justin Reed in the box.

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You can do that. I mean, you can do a lot

24:07

of things with him without having to flip the field. If

24:10

he can play all three of those positions and kind

24:12

of rotate through, I mean, it gives you a ton

24:14

of flexibility and the Chiefs like that. The

24:17

other thing really stands out as to him is just how physical

24:20

he is. I mean, there's no pads out there. You can't hit

24:22

or anything of that nature. But

24:24

you can tell he's a big guy.

24:27

You know, Merritt says he's a prototype

24:29

for a safety. And, you

24:31

know, and I think it's a step beyond

24:33

that. I mean, I think it's a prototype

24:35

for a Pro Bowl safety. I mean, he's

24:37

a big strong guy. I mean, he

24:39

looks a lot more like Kyle Hamilton

24:41

than anybody else that the Chiefs have

24:44

had through the safety position that I

24:46

can remember. I mean, he's bigger than

24:48

Tyron Matthew. I mean, he's big guy.

24:50

And so you can see he's keeping

24:52

up with players. I mean, they've had

24:54

him, you know, in situations where he's

24:56

on Travis Kelsey and he's he's proving

24:58

himself, they're trying to give him as

25:00

many. And this is true with a lot of the young guys.

25:02

I mean, and so this

25:04

is going to apply on the offensive side of the football, too.

25:07

A lot of the rookies are having to

25:09

work their way in, because that's the way

25:11

it works with Andy Reid's offense. You're not

25:13

handed the job as a rookie. Even

25:16

if Xavier Worthy was working right now, he'd

25:18

probably be getting a handful of reps with

25:20

the ones, but he'd probably be mostly working,

25:22

you know, with the twos. So,

25:24

you know, you really can't tell anything right

25:26

now about how the Chiefs are kind of

25:28

envisioning roles for the rookies, because, you know,

25:31

Hicks and Haddon, they both want those guys

25:33

playing a lot on the defense right now.

25:35

So they want them to get as many

25:37

looks as possible. And you're going

25:39

to get more of those looks on the twos

25:41

right now than the ones, because if you're running

25:43

with the ones, you're subbing in and subbing out.

25:45

And they don't want those guys getting a handful

25:47

of touch reps. They want them getting all of

25:50

them that they can. So we'll

25:52

find out more about where those guys kind of

25:54

fit in, you know, and what their plans are

25:56

once you get the training camp. But with Hicks,

25:59

I mean, You can tell he knows

26:01

his football. He knows those positions.

26:03

He's a quick learner. And

26:06

but his speed, that's what you can

26:08

really tell from a safety during this

26:10

time of year, he's got legitimate speed.

26:14

That's all I can really ask. The

26:16

tweener aspect, he's coming in what, about 12 pounds heavier

26:19

than Brian Cook. Clearly, a

26:21

lot heavier than Shmarie Connery. Everybody's got

26:23

that era that they can double over.

26:25

But that Venn diagram looks like everything's

26:27

crossed over. I think that's the key

26:29

to success. You mentioned that

26:31

it's the rookies that have to pepper in. That

26:33

makes perfect sense to me as well. But there's

26:36

a veteran that's standing out. A guy that I

26:38

liked for the Chiefs coming out in the draft.

26:40

He had to go elsewhere. That's the way the

26:42

draft falls. But Kevin Joseph had come in as

26:45

a deep, deep roster spot and is starting. I

26:47

was a little bit surprised to find out to

26:50

get some reps with the ones at

26:52

this point, I know it's just OTAs.

26:54

But that's a very, very big progression

26:56

from eighth on the depth chart up

26:59

to time with the ones. What's

27:01

standing out to you about how his progression has

27:03

been and is it enough that he can sustain

27:05

it right now in the preseason? Yeah,

27:08

there's a couple of things with him

27:10

too. One, Jaylen Watson wasn't at practice

27:13

on Thursday. Near the end

27:15

of practice, it looked like Josh Williams came

27:17

out. He was talking to Rick

27:20

Burkholder on the sidelines for a little bit

27:22

when Joseph was in there. So might have

27:24

been some connection there. But there's

27:26

no doubt. I mean, when they break up in

27:28

the two groups as they did on Thursday and

27:30

you've got the starters on one end and the

27:32

substitutions with the starters on that end, Kevin

27:35

Joseph was one of them. So they've

27:37

got him in that rotation right now. And

27:39

you can tell a couple of things. I

27:41

mean, one, he is a veteran. He's been

27:43

around for a little bit. So nothing is

27:45

new for him. Probably

27:47

the tough thing for him has been finding

27:50

a defense that he fits into. He

27:53

looks like he fits into what Dave

27:55

Merritt and Steve Spagnolo want to do in

27:57

the secondary. He's got good size. Good

28:00

quickness again, I mean, he seems to

28:02

just really fit in with their style.

28:04

So, maybe he didn't fit in

28:06

with some other defensive looks, but you see him

28:08

being, I think a lot more comfortable in this

28:11

chief's defense. But he's got a nose

28:13

for the ball. I mean, it just seems like every

28:15

single practice that we've seen him in now, he's

28:17

getting a touch, whether he had an interception. And

28:19

the last week, it sounds like that he may

28:21

have had an interception in the last couple of

28:23

days too. He was

28:25

close to the ball again on Thursday. He's

28:28

got a nose for it. I

28:31

think that the fact that he looks

28:33

the part, he looks like he really

28:36

sits in and kind of has that

28:38

prototype body that Spaggs and Merritt

28:40

really want to have. They'd be able to kind of

28:42

mold a little bit. He seems coachable. I

28:45

think there's a lot to like with him right now.

28:47

And honestly, I mean, for what you can tell when

28:49

nobody is hitting you, he's looked

28:52

pretty good. Dave

28:54

Merritt's definitely got a type. You gotta have a short memory. I

28:56

think he talked about that today as well. So

28:58

as long as you can fit in there, I think

29:01

he mentioned that Haddon looked a little bit

29:03

like Sharp Reelan. That's

29:06

the comp I had for Joseph coming out. So it

29:08

all does make sense that they have a type and

29:10

they're sticking with it. I'm glad to see that happen.

29:13

But what don't I know? Last

29:15

question for you today, who stood out

29:17

that we haven't talked about yet that maybe you're

29:19

keeping underneath your hat there? Well,

29:22

I think the really curious one is

29:24

the case of the left tackle position.

29:27

That was the one that really kind of

29:29

caused the most, I

29:31

think, perplexion on Thursday.

29:35

Because the expectation going in

29:37

is that, hey, it's gonna be Kingsley's

29:40

to Amadia or it's gonna be Wanya

29:42

Morris. And talking with Dave Heck today,

29:45

we got to

29:47

see Wanya Morris playing a little guard,

29:49

which we hadn't seen before. And

29:52

we saw Chiu Godric mixing in at

29:54

left tackle at the top of the

29:56

rotation. Let's just put it that way.

30:00

So and and you know and that's one guy

30:02

that Andy Hecht said has been having a great

30:04

OTA period So they wanted to give him some

30:07

reps. So, you know, it doesn't

30:09

I don't think it's a knock at all

30:11

whatsoever And any heck absolutely said hey, can

30:13

we sue Amadia and one anymore's both have

30:15

the leg up in that competition? But he

30:18

said it's an open competition Anybody

30:20

can win that spot and even even

30:22

Lucas Nying is it obviously in that

30:25

discussion, too? I mean, I I still

30:27

think it's probably gonna be Sue Amadia

30:29

or Morris but The

30:31

Chiefs are making work for it. And the fact is like

30:33

true. Godric is you know Somebody that

30:35

they're really rewarding and they're moving up and giving

30:37

some looks to I think that's

30:39

really intriguing And I've and Dave told echoed what

30:41

I've been saying now for a couple of weeks

30:43

So if you you've been coming here and been

30:45

listening to it, you already know this the

30:48

punter job is wide open It is not

30:50

Matt arises job to just

30:52

walk away with Ryan wreck

30:54

out from from BYU is got

30:57

just as much leg he has

30:59

been getting a lot of work as the holder and Honestly,

31:02

I mean I think it's gonna come

31:04

down to that about who makes this

31:07

team because those two guys as kickers

31:09

are Neck and neck. I don't

31:11

think that there's I have not been able to

31:13

see a distinction amongst them I mean the only

31:15

real distinction that you could probably really say with

31:18

it with arises that as a left-footed kicker He

31:20

gives you something that most teams aren't going to see

31:23

and that's always a little bit of an advantage But

31:25

as far as just you know being the

31:28

placement and depth and everything hang time I

31:31

can't I can't tell you that I see a distinction

31:33

between those two guys right now I mean they've both

31:35

been really really good, but it's gonna

31:37

come down who's the best holder and You

31:40

know and don't told told us look Harrison butters

31:42

gonna have a lot of impact If they met

31:44

that that that decision about just who he's most

31:46

comfortable with who they think is gonna be the

31:48

most reliable But right

31:50

now I mean that's that is a wide open position

31:52

I can't tell you for the life of me who

31:55

is going to be the punter on this team I'm

31:58

really intrigued to see how that comes out because

32:00

it's a vastly different road. But

32:03

that is week two, what

32:05

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