An Interview with Elle Stanger - Stripper, Writer, & Sex Educator

Part of the Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees podcast series

Recording Date: September 25, 2023

Keywords: Elle Stanger, Kayla Concannon, LE>D, Lived Expertise is Greater Than Degrees, disability, neurodivergence, advocacy, autism, sex work, SESTA/FOSTA, FOSTA/SESTA, AASECT, sex educator, discrimination, stigma, harm reduction, Oregon Sex Workers Committee, Institute for Secuality, American Association of Sexual Educators, Counselors and Therapists, Nikki Gilliland

Transcript: Download Transcript HERE.

Summary: Kayla interviews Elle Stanger, also known as the Stripper Writer. Elle is a sex education and self-help podcaster, a certified sex educator, and a stripper with 14 years of experience. She discusses their work in the sex industry, their certifications, and their advocacy for decriminalization of sex work. Elle also talks about the challenges faced by sex workers, including the lack of legal protections and the stigma associated with their profession. She emphasizes the importance of consent and the need for laws to catch up with advancements in technology. Elle also highlights the intersectionality of issues related to sex work, including disability rights and community safety. She shares personal stories and lessons she has learned outside of formal education, such as the importance of presentation and the flaws in existing systems and laws. Elle encourages listeners to challenge societal norms and advocate for change in order to create a safer and more inclusive society.

Topical Index:

• Introductions [00:00]
• Background [00:38]
• SESTA/FOSTA [05:15]
• Misguided legislation and enforcement [07:20]
• Consent, trafficking, violence [10:46]
• Blame, stigma, barriers to seeking support [13:41]
• Disability and sex [10:48]
• The reality of sting operations [20:26]
• Finances, ethics, and safety [21:32]
• Supporting sexuality [26:01]
• The challenge of being "out" as a sex worker [27:09]
• Mandated reporting [33:26]
• In-School learning [34:46]
• Control and Safety [37:21]
• Looking for relationships and loneliness [40:34]
• Informal Lessons [42:34]
• Being gentle with yourself [47:22]
• Closing [48:32]

Resources:

Article: Former Sex Worker Prevails in Discrimination LawsuitElle Stanger - Striper/ WriterThey Talk Sex - A Human Sexuality Podcast

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