0:42

I've been reading David Hawkins . He

0:45

was a world-renowned researcher

0:47

in consciousness . He came up with

0:50

the consciousness scale . He wrote a book called

0:52

Power and Force . When

0:54

we talk about the lowest vibrating energies

0:56

of guilt and shame , which are around 20

0:58

or 30 , and enlightenment's , a thousand

1:01

, when we hit about 175

1:04

, which is pride , courage , 200

1:06

, love , 500

1:09

. When we love ourselves

1:11

, when we shine our light

1:13

out of love at 500

1:16

, the science shows that

1:18

you will feel that

1:20

residency within your own

1:22

self , unconsciously

1:25

or consciously . However you are showing

1:27

up , you will feel that .

1:29

How do I wanna make others feel so

1:32

that they experience me . Now

1:35

I'm showing up and it allows

1:37

me to bring my best . I don't think

1:39

about the outcome . I'm detached from the

1:41

outcome because I know that

1:43

if I show up and

1:45

I allow them to be seen , I

1:48

show up in a serene state

1:50

, I'm at peace with myself

1:52

. They're gonna feel that

1:54

and that's gonna shift everything

1:57

. I always say like when I show up

1:59

and I'm shining , because I feel

2:01

very comfortable

2:03

in my authenticity and I am allowing

2:06

myself to just be . Not

2:08

do not win

2:10

, not push an objective

2:13

, but just be . Then

2:16

other people are like what can we do to help you

2:18

? How can we help you get what you need done

2:20

? That's a lovely place to be

2:22

, I have to say . I really encourage you to

2:24

try that because it's counterintuitive

2:26

. You think you gotta go in and defend your point of view

2:29

and have this , and I've . When I have detached

2:31

from that kind of thinking

2:33

and I just show up

2:35

with good intentions of shining

2:38

, I have to bring because I'm

2:40

in a good state . It changes

2:42

everything . Things that weren't

2:44

even on the table get put on the table , and not

2:46

because I'm putting them on the table . I don't need to

2:48

manipulate an outcome . I pull it

2:50

in because people are like I've got this light

2:53

. There's just , there's something about how

2:55

you're showing up . It's just so infectious

2:57

and contagious . If you're doing

2:59

the work , you know why . You're

3:01

like holding this light , realizing

3:03

you're giving permission for

3:05

them to step into that . I

3:07

don't know what you're doing , but would you tell me what

3:10

you're doing ? What are you doing differently

3:12

? When you say to people

3:14

I'm not really doing anything

3:16

differently , but I'm really

3:19

trying to be my most

3:21

authentic self , then

3:23

they'll say okay , what does that mean ? That

3:26

means I'm getting rid of everything . That's

3:28

not me , I'm letting go of

3:30

it . I'm in a detached

3:33

state and I'm just showing up as me

3:35

. That's what you're feeling . How'd you get there

3:37

? I've had CEOs ask me

3:39

can you show me ? Absolutely

3:42

, you hold the space . You tell them this is about spending

3:44

more time just being

3:46

, not meditating , not journaling , not thinking

3:49

, not strategizing , not trying

3:51

to come up with the answers , but just being with yourself

3:53

to your point , being

3:56

loving toward yourself . It

3:58

starts when you can give

4:00

yourself grace . You

4:02

can let yourself be more authentic

4:05

and not shut yourself down Like

4:07

how many times in

4:09

your lifetime , previous

4:12

to this much more evolved

4:14

personal development state , have

4:17

you felt or thought something and

4:19

shut it down because you were afraid of what the other person

4:21

is gonna think ? If you were honest about your

4:24

point of view or your idea

4:26

or what you think , then you

4:28

tried to game the system of what would they

4:30

want me to say ? I'll say that

4:32

because I think that's what they want . Then

4:35

they discount your point of view anyway

4:37

because you're guessing , you're

4:40

not showing up as yourself , the energy is

4:42

low , it's a very low vibration

4:44

and it casts

4:47

this negativity on everything . That

4:49

thing you can do for everybody is

4:51

to be your most authentic version of

4:53

yourself . That creates

4:56

a different vibration for everybody , not

4:58

just for you , but for the other person to be able

5:00

to step in and be like wow , this is some

5:02

great energy in this room . I feel it

5:04

. It's palpable .

5:06

I think we've all met somebody , whether

5:08

it's on person or we're online , and

5:11

we can feel when

5:13

that person walks in the room , it

5:16

really does light

5:18

up the room . You

5:20

want to be near them . I don't know what

5:22

that is , but there's

5:24

something there and you

5:27

demonstrate that . You elude

5:29

that energy frequency

5:31

of having

5:33

gone through the processes to

5:35

figure out what that looked like for yourself

5:37

. I want to switch

5:40

topics a bit . What is inspired

5:42

action ? Because we

5:44

still have to get stuff done

5:46

. Go , get stuff done . Masculine

5:49

get done . What is inspired

5:51

action from your perspective ?

5:54

For me , it's really being in tune

5:56

to my intuition , when

5:58

I'm in alignment and when I

6:01

am operating from a place

6:03

of flow . Rather than

6:05

quote unquote , racking my brains

6:07

for the answers and trying to strategize

6:10

my way through a situation , I

6:12

allow my gut

6:14

to guide me . When I talk about

6:16

taking inspired action , it's because the idea

6:18

that comes up , or the thought that

6:21

comes up through me comes

6:23

from a place of divinity . It comes from

6:25

this internal space

6:28

that's sacred . I can act against

6:31

it because I know it's coming from an inspired

6:33

place which , if you think about the word , means

6:35

in spirit . When you are connected

6:38

to that which is most authentically

6:41

, you are in spirit because

6:43

we are , first and foremost , spiritual beings

6:45

. Having the human experience , this

6:48

whole notion of listening

6:50

is nothing more than what we've

6:53

always talked about . Did you get a gut feeling

6:55

on that ? Or I had this inspired

6:57

idea because you are connected

7:00

to your source . You're somehow and

7:02

you probably know it if you're doing it connecting

7:05

to your spirit through

7:08

some sort of practice , through some sort of routine

7:10

, through some sort of way of being on a

7:12

habitual basis that

7:14

you have that space to allow

7:17

inspired thinking

7:19

to come up through you

7:21

. I didn't have to work . This

7:23

came to me . I just had that

7:26

idea . That's when you can then take an action

7:29

that's inspired because it comes from

7:31

your most authentic space , from your

7:33

spirit . That's what

7:35

it is for me . I know for sure

7:37

. When I sit down

7:39

and make a five-year plan which I used

7:41

to do all the time from the time I was about

7:44

13 until I was well into

7:46

my 30s I would sit down and write my goals

7:48

for the year , my five-year plan . It

7:51

came from my head . Any

7:53

of the things I wanted to achieve were bad . A

7:57

lot of them were great things . I wanted to write a book and I wanted to

7:59

be a parent and I wanted to earn a certain amount

8:02

of money and I wanted to travel and I wanted to spend more

8:04

time with friends . A lot of

8:06

things in the list just happened faster

8:09

than a five-year plan In

8:12

time . We talked a little bit about this time

8:15

sort of bends , when you're acting

8:17

from a place of spirit , the things

8:19

that might have taken us 20 years in the past

8:21

to achieve , because we

8:23

weren't ready to receive the lesson or

8:25

step into our most powerful

8:28

space , which is space of authenticity

8:30

, because somehow

8:32

in our thinking we thought

8:34

things had to be hard , I'll raise

8:37

my hand . It'll be the first one to say I grew up

8:39

in an environment in New England and

8:41

roots of life is

8:43

hard , making money

8:46

is hard , work is

8:48

hard . It's not supposed to be fun . So

8:50

stop complaining about work being

8:53

hard , because that's what it is In

8:55

this mentality that joy

8:57

is something you've got to experience

8:59

at the end of hard work , which

9:02

I carried with me for

9:04

a really long time and

9:07

I'm very grateful to say I finally got

9:09

to a place where I

9:11

recognize that actually wasn't serving

9:13

me . None of those were serving me

9:16

. I was seeing people far

9:18

surpass me that were

9:20

working far less than I was

9:22

, that were having way more

9:24

fun than I was , and

9:26

I was like what are they doing different and

9:28

why is it different for them ? I

9:31

think when you finally get to a place where

9:33

you recognize being at your most

9:35

authentic state of being requires

9:38

a couple of things . I realized that

9:40

part of getting to my

9:43

most authentic self and staying

9:45

in that state requires leaning

9:47

into joy , which is

9:50

totally counter to the way I was raised

9:53

, which was you have fun at the end of the hard

9:55

work . And now I realize

9:57

that when I'm in a funk , often I haven't had

9:59

enough time enjoying . I haven't had

10:01

enough play time , which sounds

10:04

even strange to say as an adult

10:06

right . We're like oh play , but

10:09

it is the place of creativity . You

10:11

cannot create when there's

10:13

no environment for

10:15

creativity . So play is so

10:18

important for action , because

10:20

if you don't have a higher vibration

10:23

from being in a state of joy

10:25

, then you cannot

10:27

cultivate inspiration

10:29

and intuition in order to take

10:31

inspired action . For me , part

10:34

of being at my highest state

10:36

of achievement at the stage of my

10:38

life means I travel

10:41

more . I used to view

10:44

people who traveled as being it's

10:46

leisure , and leisure

10:49

is lazy , and those

10:51

people must be really rich and

10:53

those people must have it easy . Now

10:56

I recognize that for me , travel

10:58

was a means to A

11:00

become more free , because when away

11:02

from my day to day environment , I

11:05

dream more . I become

11:07

more expansive . I

11:09

also learn about new people and cultures

11:12

. I'm very outgoing . When

11:14

I'm on a trip my husband in Ten

11:16

will vouch for this I meet 10 new

11:18

people on any given trip because I'll

11:21

talk to anybody . I want to know who are you

11:23

, what's your life story ? Because I recognize these are other

11:25

spiritual beings on

11:28

their human existence too . Maybe

11:30

they have something that I'm going to learn , maybe they're going

11:32

to have something that I need to

11:34

experience or know about . I'm

11:37

out there gathering

11:39

experiences to

11:41

raise my vibration . I come back

11:44

from a travel experience

11:46

in a whole new state of expansion

11:49

to achieve new things , to

11:51

take inspired action , to

11:54

go through periods where I

11:56

will be quote-unquote working from

11:59

an inspired state , which might mean more

12:01

, longer hours , but I am creating at a much

12:03

higher rate and a faster rate

12:05

than when I'm not in that space

12:07

. That's where I think that time continuum

12:10

changes . Maybe it doesn't take

12:12

you a year to write a book . Maybe it takes

12:14

you three weeks to write a book because you're

12:16

in the right space and you're in the right frequency

12:19

to just download it .

12:22

You do hear authors talking about that . I

12:25

wrote this book or I wrote

12:27

that song . I wrote whatever

12:30

is that painting that's world

12:32

famous now . I

12:34

did that in four hours .

12:35

There's no sense of the inspired

12:37

action doesn't have to mean

12:40

that it takes you 20

12:42

years to become something . I know that there are statistics

12:44

. You have to spend a certain amount of hours

12:46

to have mastery , for example

12:48

in a musical instrument , let's

12:50

just say . But it's far less than

12:52

what you would think . If you spent 15

12:55

to 20 minutes a day doing

12:57

something over a period

12:59

of time , you're going to gain mastery

13:02

. It's such a short amount of just

13:04

15 or 20 minutes a day . I

13:06

spent 15 or 20 minutes staring out

13:08

the window . I could have been writing during

13:10

that , but I might have needed the space to stir

13:12

out the window , to empty my mind

13:15

, to go back to another activity

13:17

I view the whole

13:19

sense of what it is that's

13:21

going to be required to

13:23

take . Inspired action is so different

13:26

for me today than

13:28

what I understood it to be as

13:31

a younger person . I think before

13:33

I thought and I revered

13:36

those people that brought sweat

13:38

equity to the table . It's not that I

13:40

discount the importance of that . I really

13:42

do think what happens

13:45

when you're an inspired could probably

13:47

work two to three times more

13:49

because you're in a joyous stage . You're

13:51

like where did the time go ? You lose sense

13:53

, lose track of time , because you're in such

13:56

an energetic space of creation

13:58

that time goes by very quickly

14:01

or slowly for you , because

14:03

you don't even really have so much time as going . You

14:05

don't feel drained , it's giving you

14:07

life .

14:09

That's a really good example , because we've been on

14:11

calls . We spent two hours . Where

14:13

did those ?

14:14

two hours just go .

14:16

I feel full , I don't

14:18

feel depleted , then

14:20

jump into whatever I needed to

14:22

finish up for the day or the night . I

14:25

get it done in half a

14:28

fourth of the time because I'm

14:30

in this flow state that I

14:32

used to call it . I'm in the zone I

14:35

need to finish this . Because I'm in the zone right

14:37

now , I'm not going to take a break . I'm going to power

14:39

through it , but I didn't feel depleted

14:41

at the end of it . I

14:44

can look back at some of those moments of

14:46

that creation and go , wow

14:48

, that was brilliant , I want more

14:50

of that . But if I try to force myself

14:52

into doing that

14:54

, it just doesn't

14:56

flow . I've learned now get

14:59

up , go have some fun , be

15:02

more feminine , play , be

15:04

creative when incorporating

15:06

more of that back in because

15:09

it had fallen away . I need to be

15:11

more present , I need to focus

15:14

and work on my inspired actions

15:16

and it will all get done .

15:19

It's interesting because I write quite a

15:21

bit and I think , as somebody

15:23

who tried to do

15:26

it as more of a task in the past

15:28

, I would sit down and put the

15:30

timer on and say , okay , think a great

15:32

thought and write it down . It would

15:34

be so stuck , I would

15:36

have the worst writer's block and I would be so

15:38

angry at myself . Like you had so many great

15:41

ideas before you went to sleep . You should have just written

15:43

them down then , because now you woke up the next day

15:45

and you can't think of anything to write . What

15:47

I've learned is you

15:50

just write without

15:52

thinking about it . Just

15:55

allow yourself the inspired

15:58

state of being where you just

16:00

write down whatever comes

16:02

up . If in the initial part of

16:04

that , I'm just going to write down

16:06

whatever comes up , I'm just going to write down whatever

16:09

comes up and all of a sudden you're writing about

16:11

and remember that time , and

16:13

then you're writing about that time . Allow that to

16:15

happen and go through the state of

16:17

not a guided

16:20

writing experience , a free

16:22

state of writing . Allow

16:24

yourself to let

16:26

whatever comes up be what you write

16:29

, and that you're not acting from a

16:31

place of your head , but you're

16:33

allowing your heart-centered

16:35

being to direct

16:38

the pen or the keyboard . Sometimes

16:41

, when you go back and look at it and

16:43

you're like , oh , there's this girl . But you get the first three

16:45

days , but hey , on the fourth day there's

16:47

some really good stuff in here , that

16:49

becomes the place of your

16:52

starting point . I spent much

16:54

of my writing . Time is not structured

16:57

writing on purpose . I think the most

16:59

important part for me is just to let it come up through

17:02

me . It all comes together . Trust

17:04

me , when you try to force it , it's almost

17:07

like you don't know where to start . I get massive

17:09

writers black when I do that .

17:10

I use the word surrender , but you weren't using

17:13

the word surrender of

17:15

just letting

17:18

it be . I really

17:20

loved when you were sharing about travel

17:23

instead of the leisure it

17:26

allows you to become that

17:29

freedom , the free-ness

17:31

of who you are . I love

17:33

that your son and your husband realized

17:36

that Michelle's going to be over there talking

17:38

with them . We're just going to let her

17:40

be her .

17:42

It's the running joke . We're just going to run into

17:44

a store and they're like , yeah , it's never

17:46

just running into a store to get something

17:48

. It is what it is . We

17:51

recognize this will take over an hour , but it's

17:53

alright . I'm my highest state

17:55

of always . My best ideas come

17:57

when I'm traveling . I used to have

18:00

this argument , long running argument

18:02

with people I worked with . They're like oh , you take a lot

18:04

of vacation . I'm like absolutely

18:06

, it's why I do well on this job

18:09

, because I come back with the best ideas

18:11

. Travel is really part of my

18:13

development . If I didn't feed that , I

18:16

would be holding back my best self

18:18

from you . You are happy that

18:20

I am traveling .

18:22

Exactly , I resonate with that for

18:24

myself as well .

18:26

I'm imagining things that I haven't yet

18:28

seen or experienced , and I'll tell

18:31

you . The interesting part is , nine times out of

18:33

10 , a lot of the things I've pre-imagined

18:35

will happen in a good sense of state

18:37

. They end up happening because

18:39

set that intention and put that visual

18:41

thought process together and

18:43

then unfold . It usually finds me

18:46

, but that's my place of creativity

18:48

.

18:49

I love that I've been asking

18:52

my guest to

18:54

standard questions . One

18:57

of them is music

18:59

, about songs . I firmly

19:01

believe that music can change our state . Do

19:03

you have a go-to song or

19:05

songs that you put on to

19:07

shift more into my flow state

19:10

? What is that song

19:12

or an artist for ?

19:13

you . I have a very special song

19:15

. It's my song , the Beatles

19:18

song , michelle , because that's the

19:20

song that my grandparents used to sing to

19:22

me when I was little , and my parent . It brings me

19:24

back to a happy place of when I was really

19:26

carefree and little , and it's

19:29

simple , it's easy , it was

19:31

a happy time . It was preschool

19:33

time for me . I might have been like two

19:35

, three , four years old , but for me

19:37

it's just like a special song . That's

19:39

how I was named . I heard that story

19:42

so many times .

19:43

That's wonderful . I love that . The other question

19:45

I want to ask you is if

19:48

you could go back , what would you tell

19:50

your younger self ?

19:53

Keep playing . I grew up in Maine

19:55

in a very rural town surrounded

19:57

by woods and fields . I

19:59

loved playing outside

20:02

. I really loved it . I was forging

20:04

streams , climbing trees , talking

20:06

to the water , talking to the wind , picking up leaves

20:09

, skipping rocks . I didn't have

20:11

a lot of playmates . My age I

20:13

lived in a rural part of the state . I

20:15

spent a lot of time in nature and

20:17

as I started to grow up I

20:20

got away from that . I moved to a city

20:22

. I lived a much more urban lifestyle

20:25

. I got disconnected from nature

20:27

. I would go back and say , keep

20:29

playing . I felt great power and connection

20:32

to being outside . I

20:34

went for a long stretch of my life , of

20:36

my young adulthood , disconnected

20:39

from nature . As an adult

20:41

, a fabulous trip in the

20:43

Caribbean and spent a lot of time with my

20:45

shoes off , walking barefoot

20:47

in the sand and in the water just

20:50

to feel more grounded and connected

20:52

. It's immediate for me . I

20:55

remember all of those summers

20:57

when I was really little , running around

20:59

barefoot in the grass , climbing

21:02

trees , hanging upside down like a monkey

21:04

and jumping through the

21:06

water and coming back completely covered

21:08

, head to toe , and whatever my

21:11

mom , she would laugh

21:13

and giggle and get me clean and what have you . I'd

21:15

go back out and do it again the next day . At some

21:17

point I decided that

21:19

was the little kid stuff . I stopped

21:21

doing it Probably around seven or eight

21:23

. I just stopped and

21:26

I'd go back and say keep playing

21:28

, stay outdoors , stay connected . I

21:31

felt very rooted . I go home still

21:33

to visit my family in Maine and I'm

21:35

back out in nature by default

21:38

because they live in a very rural

21:40

part of the state . I feel immediately

21:43

home , even though I've lived away for

21:45

more than 30 years .

21:48

That is a lot of wisdom

21:50

there to remind others and yourselves

21:52

. Thank you , michelle , for being here and sharing

21:54

your wisdom and your light and this love

21:57

that just comes pouring through you

21:59

. I just feel so honored and blessed

22:01

that you've been here Now for those

22:03

who want to reach out to you

22:05

. I listen to Live your

22:07

Extraordinary Life Podcast . They're just bite-sized

22:10

pieces most of the episodes

22:12

, so you're able to quickly listen

22:14

, absorb it and carry

22:17

it with you . I want to encourage people to reach

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out . We're going to include it in the show

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links . How could people find you , Michelle

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.

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Thank you so much . First , I'm on Instagram

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and it's easy to find me . It's MichelleRios

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R-I-O-S . All one

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word on Instagram . You

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can go to my website at MichelleRiosOfficialcom

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, either on Apple or Spotify

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or wherever you listen to your podcast . You

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can go and look me up by MichelleRios

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or Live your Extraordinary

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Life . So thank you , Michelle

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, Thank you Debbie , it's

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been an absolute pleasure . I really appreciate

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the opportunity to come on .