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Mmm, Hello,

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nerds, this is let's talk about

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myths baby, and I

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am your host live here

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with another episode of reading

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of the Argonautica. I

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mean, this has been fun, but the deeper

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I get into it and the closer we get to just

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all out medeia wildness,

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the more excited I am. So I am

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thrilled to be back to you again with

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another reading of this crazy

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book, specifically with

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Medeia. Because last we

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left Jason and the Argonauts, they had finally

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landed on Calcus. They had

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met the King a et s. He does not like

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them. They had asked for the Golden

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fleece back nicely. It wasn't

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going to go. And they have

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finally met Medeia. So we

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are diving back into the

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trials that I. E. T. S Is setting

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out for Jason in order for

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him to get the Golden

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Fleece. It's

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going to be fun. Yeah.

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M. This

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is the Argonautica by Apolonious,

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translated by R. C. Seaton,

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Book three, Part two.

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Thus Jason spoke, smitten

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by his helpless plight, and

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the king with grim words addressed

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him sore troubled as he

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was go forth now

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to the gathering. Since you are eager

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for the toil. But if you should fear

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to lift the yoke upon the oxen,

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or shrink from the deadly harvesting,

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then all this shall be my care,

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so that another two may shudder to

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come to a man that is better than

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he is. He

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spoke outright, and Jason rose from

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his seat and augeas and tell him

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on at once. And Argus followed

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alone, for he signed to his

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brothers to stay there on the spot

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meantime. So they went forth from

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the hall, and

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wonderfully among them all shone

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the sun of Esan for beauty

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and grace, and the maiden

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looked upon him with stealthy glance,

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holding her bright veil aside,

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her heart smoldering with pain,

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and her soul creeping like a dream,

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flitted in his track as he went.

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So they passed forth from the palace,

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sorely troubled, and

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Calciope, shielding herself from

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the wrath of i Etes, had gone

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quickly to her chamber with her sons,

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and Medeia likewise followed,

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and much she brooded in her

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soul, all the cares that

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the love's awaken, and before

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her eyes the vision still appeared

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himself, what like he was with

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what vesture he was clad, what

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things he spoke, how he

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sat on his seat, how he moved

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forth to the door, And

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as she pondered, she deemed there never

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was such another man. And ever

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in her ears wrung his voice

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and the honey sweet words which

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he uttered. And

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she feared for him, lest the Oxen,

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or I et s with his own hand, should slay

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him. And she mourned him as though

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already slain outright, and

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in her affliction around tear through

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very grievous pity coursed down

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her cheek, and gently weeping,

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she lifted up her voice aloud, Why

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does this grief come upon me, poor

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wretch? Whether he be the best

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of heroes now about to perish, or the

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worst, let him go to his

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doom. Yet I would that he had escaped

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unharmed. How may it be, so, revered

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Goddess, daughter of Percy's.

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May he avoid death

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and return home? But if

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it be his lot to be overmastered

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by the oxen, may he first learn

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this that I do at least

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not rejoice in his cruel calamity.

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Thus, then, was the Maiden's

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heart racked by love cares.

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But when the others had gone forth from

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the people and the city, along

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the path by which at the first they had

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come from the plane. Then Argus

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addressed Jason with these words,

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son of Esan, thou will despise

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the counsel which I will tell you, But

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though in evil plight, it is not fitting

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to forbear from the trial. Year.

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Now you have heard me tell of a maiden

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that uses sorcery under the guidance

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of Hecate, Percy's daughter.

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If we could win her aid, there will

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be no dread me thinks

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of your defeat in the contest. But terribly

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do I fear that my mother will not take

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this task upon her. Nevertheless,

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I will go back again to entreat her, for

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a common destruction overhangs

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us. All. He

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spoke with goodwill, and Jason answered

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with these words, good friend,

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if this is good in thy sight, I say

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not, no, go and move your

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mother, beseeching her aid with prudent words.

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Pitiful indeed is our hope when we have

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put our return in the keeping of women,

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So he spoke, And quickly they

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reached the backwater, and their comrades

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joyfully questioned them when they

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saw them close at hand, and to them

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spoke Estn's son grieved at

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heart, My friends, the

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heart of ruthless i Etes is utterly

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filled with wrath against us, for

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not at all can the goal be reached, either

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by me or by you. Who questioned me,

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He said that two bowls with feet of

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bronze pastor on the plane of aries,

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breathing forth flame from their jaws,

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And with these he bade me plow the field

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four plow gates, and said

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that he would give me from a serpent's jaws

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seeds which will raise up earth born

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men in armor of bronze. And

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on the same day I must slay them

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this task, for there was nothing better to

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devise. I took on myself

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out right. Thus

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he spoke, and to all the contests seemed

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one that none could accomplish.

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And long, quiet and silent they

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looked at one another, bowed down

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with the calamity and their despair. But

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at last Pellia spoke with courageous

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words among all the chiefs, it

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is time to be counseling what we shall

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do. Yet there is not so much

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profit Hydro in council

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as in the might of our hands. If

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you, then, hero son of Esen, are

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minded too Yokai etes as oxen

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and art eager for the toil.

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Surely you will keep your promise and make

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yourself ready. But if your

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soul trust not her prowess utterly,

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then neither bestir yourself, nor

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sit still and look round for someone

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else of these men. For it

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is not I who will flinch, since the

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bitterest pain will be but death.

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So spoke the son of Yakis, and

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tell A Mon's soul was stirred, and

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quickly he started up in eagerness.

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And IDAs rose up, the third in

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his pride, and the twin sons of Tyndarius,

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and with them Enius, his son, who was

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numbered among strong men, though

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even the soft down on his cheek showed

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not yet with such courage

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was his soul uplifted. But

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the others gave way to these in silence and

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straightway. Argus spoke these words

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to those that longed for the contest.

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My friends, this indeed is left

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us at the last. But I deem

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that there will come to you some timely

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aid from my mother. Wherefore,

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eager though you be, refrain an

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abide in your ship a little longer

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as before, for it is better to

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forbear than recklessly to choose

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an evil fate. There is a

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maiden nurtured in the halls of it et

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S, whom the Goddess Hecate taught

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to handle magic herbs with exceeding

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skill. All that the land and owing

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waters produce with them

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is quenched the blast of unwearied

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flame, and at once she

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stays the course of rivers as they

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rush roaring on, and checks

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the stars and the paths of the sacred

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moon of her.

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We bethought us as we came hither along

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the path from the palace, if haply

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my mother, her own sister, might

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persuade her to aid us in the venture.

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And if this is pleasing to you as well,

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surely on this very day I will return

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to the palace of a Etes to make trial.

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And perchance, with some God's help shall

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I make the trial. Thus

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he spoke, and the gods and their good will gave

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them a sign. A trembling dove,

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in her flight from a mighty hawk, fell

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from the sky, terrified into

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the lap of esn Sun, and the hawk

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fell impaled on the stern ornament.

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And quickly mops Us, with prophetic

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words spoke among them all for

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you friends, this sign has

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been wrought by the will of heaven. In

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no other way is it possible to interpret

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its meaning better than to seek out the

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maiden and entreat her with manifold

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skill. And I think she will not reject

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our prayer. If in truth Phineas said

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that our return should be with the help of

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the kyppriant goddess, it

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was her gentle bird that escaped death,

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and my heart within me foresees according

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to this omen. So it may prove. But

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my son's let us call on Catharia

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to aid us, and now at once obey

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the counsels of Argus. He

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spoke, and the warriors approved,

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remembering the injunctions of Phineas.

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But all alone's leapt up

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a farchian IDAs and shouted

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loudly in terrible wrath, Shame

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on us have we come here, fellow

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voyagers with women calling

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on Kippris for help, and not on the mighty

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strength of a Nealius. And

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to you look to doves and hawks

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to save yourselves from contests.

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Away with you take thought not for deeds

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of war, but by supplication to beguile

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weakling girls.

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Such were his eager words and

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of his comrades. Many murmured low,

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but none uttered a word of answer

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back, and he sat down in wrath.

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And at once Jason roused them and uttered

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his own thought, Let our guests set

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forth from the ship, since this please is all,

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But we will now move from the river and openly

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fasten our hawsers to the shore. For

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surely it is not fitting for us to hide

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any longer cowering from the

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battle. Cry. So

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he spoke, and straightway sent Argus

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to return in haste to the city.

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And they drew the anchors on board at the command

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of esn Sun, and rode the ship closer

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to the shore, a little away from the back

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water, but

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straightway. I et S held an assembly

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of the Colchians far aloof from

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his palace, at a spot where they sat

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in times before, to of eyes

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against the minii, grim, treachery,

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and troubles. And he threatened

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that when first the oxen should have torn

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in pieces the man who had taken upon him

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to perform the heavy task, he would

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hue down the oak grove above

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the wooded hill and burn the ship

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and her crew, so that they might

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vent forth and ruin their grievous

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insolence. For all their haughty

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schemes.

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For never would he have welcomed the ayol

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and Phrixus as a guest in his halls in

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spite of his sore need. Phrixus,

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who surpassed all strangers and gentleness

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and fear of the gods, had not Zeus

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himself sent Herme's, his messenger, down from heaven,

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so that he might meet with a friendly host. Much

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less would pirates coming to his land be let

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go scatheless for long, men

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whose cares it was to lift their hands and

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seize the goods of others, and to weave

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secret webs of guile and harry

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the steadings of herdsmen with ill sounding

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forays. And he said that

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besides, all the sons of Prixus should

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pay a fitting penalty to himself

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for returning into consort with evil

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doers, that they might recklessly drive

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him from his honor and his throne.

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For once he had heard a baleful prophecy

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from his father Helios, that he must

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avoid the secret treachery and schemes

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of his own offspring and their crafty

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mischief. Wherefore

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he was sending them, as they devised, to

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the Acaian land at the bidding of their father

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a long journey, nor had

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he ever so slight a fear of his

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daughters that they would form some hateful

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scheme, nor of his son absurdist.

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But this curse was being fulfilled in

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the children of Calciope, and

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he proclaimed terrible things

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in his rage against the strangers,

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and loudly threatened to keep watch

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over the ship and its crew, so

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that no one might escape calamity.

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Meantime, Argus, going to ayat

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palace with Manifold pleading, besought

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his mother to pray Medeia's aid,

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and Calciope herself already had

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the same thoughts, but fear checked

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her soul. Lest happily, either fate

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should withstand and she should entreat

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her in vain, all distraught

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as she would be at her father's deadly wrath,

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or if Madeia yielded to her prayers,

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her deeds should be laid bare and open

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to view. Now

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a deep slumber had relieved

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the maiden from her love pains as

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she lay upon her couch, but

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straightway fearful dreams, deceitful,

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such as trouble wanted gree assailed

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her, and she thought that the stranger had

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taken on him the contest, not because

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he longed to win the rams fleece, and

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that he had not come on that account to Ayates

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City, but to lead her away,

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his wedded wife, to his own home.

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And she dreamed that herself contended with

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the oxen and wrought the task with exceeding

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ease, and that her own parents said

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it not their promise, for it was not

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the maiden they had challenged to yoke the oxen,

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but the stranger himself. From

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that arose a contention of doubtful issue

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between her father and the strangers, and

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both laid the decision upon her to

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be as she should direct in her mind. But

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she, suddenly, neglecting her parents, chose

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the stranger and measureless. Anguish

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seized them, and they shouted out in their

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wrath, and with the cry, sleep released

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its hold upon her. Quivering

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with fear, she started up and stared

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round the walls of her chamber, and

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with difficulty did she gather her spirit

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within her as before, and lifted

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her voice aloud, Poor

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wretch, how have gloomy dreams

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affrighted me? I fear that

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this voyage of the heroes will bring some great

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evil. My heart is trembling

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for the stranger. Let him woo

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some Acayian girl far away among

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his own folk. Let maidenhood

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be mine and the home of my parents.

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Yet, taking to myself a reckless heart,

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I will no more keep aloof, but will make trial

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of my sister, to see if she will entreat

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me to aid in the contest through

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grief for her own sons. This

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would quench the bitter pain in my heart.

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She spoke, and, rising from her bed,

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opened the door of her chamber, barefooted,

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clad in one robe. And verily

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she desired to go to her sister, and crossed

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the threshold, And for long

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she stayed there at the entrance of her

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chamber, held back by shame,

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and she turned back once more, and again

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she came forth from within, and again

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stole back, and idly did

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her feet bear her this way and that as

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oft as she went straight on, shame

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held her within the chamber. And though

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held back by shame, bold desire kept

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urging her on. Thrice

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she made the attempt, and thrice she checked

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herself. The fourth time

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she fell on her bed, face downward, writhing

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in pain. And as when a

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bride in her chamber bewails her youthful

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husband to whom her brothers

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and parents have given her. Nor

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yet does she hold converse with her

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all her attendants, for shame and for thinking

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of him. But she sits apart grief,

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and some doom has destroyed him before

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they have had pleasure of each other's charms.

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And she, with heart on fire, silently

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weeps, beholding her widowed couch,

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in fear lest the women should mock and revile

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her. Like to her did Madeia lament.

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And suddenly, as she was in the midst of her tears,

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one of the handmaids came forth and noticed

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her, one who was her youthful attendant,

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and straightway she told Calciope, who

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sat in the midst of her son's devising,

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how do win over her sister? And

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when Klcaiope heard the strange tale

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from the handmaid, not even so did she

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disregard it, and she rushed in dismay

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from her chamber, right on to the chamber

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where the maiden lay in her anguish, having torn

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at her cheeks on each side. And

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when Calciope saw her eyes all dimmed

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with tears, she thus addressed

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her, Aha,

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me, Madaia, why do you weep? So?

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What has befallen you. What

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terrible grief has entered your heart? Has some

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haveven sent disease and wrapped your

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frame? Or have you heard from our father

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some deadly threat concerning me and my

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sons? Would that I did not behold

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this home of my parents or this city,

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but dwelt at the ends of the earth, where

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not even the name of the Colchians is

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known. Thus

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she spoke, and her sister's cheeks flushed,

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And though she was eager to reply, long

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did maiden shame restrain her. At

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one moment the word rose on the end

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of her tongue, and another it fluttered

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back deep within her breast, and

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often through her lovely lips. It strove

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for utterance, but no sound

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came forth, till at last she spoke

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with guileful words, for the bold

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loves were pressing her hard. Calciope,

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my heart is all trembling for your sons,

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lest our father forthwith destroy

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them, together with the strangers slumbering

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just now in a short lived sleep, with such

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a ghastly dream did I see

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many some God forbid it's fulfillment,

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And never may you win for yourself

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bitter care on your son's account.

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She spoke, making trial of her sister

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to see if she would entreat help for her

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sons, And utterable, unbearable

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grief surged over Calciope's

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soul for fear of what she heard.

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And then she replied, I

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myself to have come to you and eager

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further into this purpose, if you would

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happly defies with me and prepare

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some help. But swear by Earth and

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Heaven that you will keep secret in your

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heart what I shall tell you, and be

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fellow worker with me. I implore

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you, by the blessed Gods, by yourself

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and your parents, not to see them

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destroyed by an evil doom, piteously

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or else, May I die with my dear sons

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and come back hereafter from hades and

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avenging fury to haunt you.

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Thus she spoke, and straightway a

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torrent of tears gushed forth, and low

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down she clasped her sister's knees

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with both hands and let her head sink

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onto her breast. Then they

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both made piteous lamentation over each

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other, and through the halls rose the

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faint sound of women weeping in

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anguish. Medeia,

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sore troubled, first addressed

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her sister, God

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help you what healing can I

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bring you? For what you speak of horrible

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curses and juries. Would

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that it were firmly in my power to save

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your sons. Be witnessed

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that mighty oath of the Colchians, by

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which you urge me to swear the great

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Heaven and Earth beneath, Mother

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of the Gods, that as far as strength

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lies in me, never shall you

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fail of help, if only your prayers

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can be accomplished. She

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spoke, and Calciope thus replied,

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could you not, then, for the stranger,

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who himself craves your aid,

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devise some trick or some wise thought

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to win the contest for the sake of my sons,

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And from him has come Argus, urging

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me to try to win your help. I

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left him in the palace. Meanwhile, while I

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came hither. Thus

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she spoke, and Medeia's heart bounded with

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joy within her, and at once

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her fair cheeks flushed, and a mist

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swam before her melting eyes. And

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she spoke, as follows, Calciope,

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as is dear and delightful to you and your

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son's even so will I do. Never

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may the dawn appear again to my eyes? Never

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may you see me living any longer if

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I should take thought for anything

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before your life or your son's lives.

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For they are my brothers, my dear kinsman and

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youthful companions. So

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do I declare myself to be your sister

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and your daughter too, for you

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did lift me to your breast when an infant,

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equally with them, as I ever heard

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from my mother in the past days. But

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go bury my kindness in silence,

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so that I may carry out my promise unknown

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to my parents. And at dawn

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I will bring to Hecate's temple charms

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to cast a spell upon the bulls.

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Thus Calciope went back

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from the chamber and made known to her sons

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the help given by her sister, And

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again did shame and hateful fear

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seese Ma day of thus left alone,

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that she should devise such deeds for

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a man in her father's despite.

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Then did night draw darkness over

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the earth and on the sea. Sailors

23:05

from their ships looked towards the bear

23:08

and the stars of Orion, and

23:10

now the wayfarer and the warder

23:12

longed for sleep, and the pall

23:14

of slumber wrapped round the mother

23:17

whose children were dead. Nor

23:19

was there anymore the barking of dogs

23:21

through the city, nor sound of men's

23:24

voices. But silence held

23:26

the blackening doom. But not

23:28

indeed upon Medeia came sweet sleep.

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For in her love for recent son, many

23:33

cares kept her awakeful, and

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she dreaded the mighty strength of the

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bulls, beneath whose fury

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he was like to perish by an

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unseemly fate in the field

23:44

of airies. And

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fast did her heart throb within

23:50

her breast, as a sunbeam

23:52

quivers upon the walls of a house

23:54

when flung from water, which is

23:56

just poured forth in a cauldron or a

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pail. Maybe, and hither and

24:01

thither on the swift eddie does it

24:03

dart and dance along. Even

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so the maiden's heart quivered in her

24:08

breast, and the tear of pity

24:10

flowed from her eyes, and ever with an

24:12

anguish tortured her a smoldering

24:15

fire through her frame, and about

24:17

her fine nerves, and deep down

24:20

beneath the nape of the neck, where

24:22

the pain enters keenest whenever

24:24

the unwearied loves direct against

24:27

the heart their shafts of agony.

24:30

And she thought now that she would give him

24:32

the charms to cast a spell up

24:34

on the bulls, now that she

24:36

would not and that herself would perish,

24:38

And again that she would not perish and would not

24:41

give the charms, but just as she

24:43

would endure her fate in silence.

24:46

Then, sitting down, she wavered in mind,

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and said, poor

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wretch, must I toss hither

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and thither in woe? On every

24:55

side of my heart is in despair? Nor

24:57

is there any help for my pain? But

24:59

it burneth. Ever, thus would

25:03

that I had been slain by the swift shafts

25:05

of Artemis before it set eyes upon

25:08

him, before Calciope's sons

25:10

reached the Accayan land, some

25:12

God or some fury brought them hither

25:14

for our grief a cause of many

25:17

tears. Let him perish in the

25:19

contest, if it be his lot to die

25:21

in the field. For how could I prepare

25:23

the charms without my parents knowledge? What

25:26

story can I tell them? What trick? What cunning

25:28

device for aid can I find? If

25:30

I see him alone, apart from his comrades,

25:33

shall I greet him? I'll start

25:35

that I am. I cannot hope that I should rest

25:37

from my sorrows even though he perished.

25:40

Then will evil come to me when he is bereft

25:42

of life. Parish all

25:44

shame, parish all glow. May

25:47

he saved by my effort, ghost

25:49

scatheless wherever his heart desires.

25:53

But as for me, on the day when he bides

25:55

the contest in triumph, may

25:57

I die, either straining my neck

26:00

on the noose from the roof tree, or

26:02

tasting drugs destructive of

26:04

life. But even so, when

26:06

I am dead, they will fling out taunts

26:09

against me, and every city

26:11

far away will ring with my doom,

26:13

And the Colchian women tossing my name

26:16

on their lips hither and thither will

26:18

revile me with unseemly

26:20

mocking. The

26:22

maid who cared so much for a stranger

26:24

that she died, the maid who disgraced

26:27

her home and her parents, yielding to a

26:29

mad passion. And what disgrace

26:31

will not be mine? Alas for

26:34

my infatuation, Far

26:36

better would it be for me to forsake life

26:38

this very night in my chamber by some

26:41

mysterious fate, escaping

26:43

all slanderous reproach before

26:46

I complete such nameless dishonor.

26:50

She spoke and brought a casket wherein lay

26:53

many drugs, some for healing, others

26:55

for killing, and placing it upon

26:57

her knees. She wept, and she

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wrenched her bosom with ceaseless tears,

27:02

which flowed in torrents as she sat

27:04

bitterly bewailing her own fate.

27:07

And she longed to choose a murderous drug

27:09

to taste it. And now she was loosening

27:12

the bands of the casket, eager to take it

27:14

forth unhappy maid. But

27:16

suddenly a deadly fear of hateful hades

27:18

came upon her heart, and long

27:21

she held back in speechless horror. And

27:23

all around her thronged divisions of the

27:25

pleasing cares of life. She

27:28

thought of all the delightful things that are among

27:30

the living. She thought of her joyous playmates

27:32

as a maiden will, And the sun grew

27:35

sweeter than ever to behold, seeing

27:37

that in truth her soul yearned for all,

27:40

and she put the casket again from off her

27:42

knees, all changing by the prompting

27:44

of hera and no more did she waver

27:47

in purpose, but longed for the rising dawn

27:49

to appear quickly, that she might give

27:51

him the charms to work the spell as she

27:53

had promised, and meet him face to

27:55

face. And often did

27:58

she loosen the bolts of her door touch

28:00

for the faint gleam and welcome

28:02

to her did the day spring shed its light,

28:05

and folk began to stir throughout

28:07

the city. Then

28:10

Argust bade his brothers remain there

28:12

to learn the maiden's mind and plans,

28:15

but himself turned back and

28:17

went to the ship. Oh

28:34

nerds, thank you so much for listening. This

28:37

one was very fun, as you can tell by

28:39

every moment of the tone of my voice. I

28:41

really love that. You know, in the last episode, we

28:43

get the idea that Medeia was absolutely

28:47

forced into this love by a

28:49

spell that none of it is hers. And

28:52

thus when she acts wildly

28:55

erratically and love struck and

28:57

like an obnoxious teenager who

29:00

can't make up her mind, you get that it's

29:02

not her personality, like it's clearly influenced

29:05

by the gods. And I think that that

29:07

was I mean, I think that Apollonius

29:10

was writing after Euripides play,

29:12

and I almost think he's kind of trying to like rhet

29:15

coon Medeia to make it so that

29:17

she clearly was not in her right mind

29:19

and just make really obvious that

29:22

this woman was completely overtaken by

29:24

the will of the gods and you know, it

29:26

was not in her personality to do all

29:28

of these things. It's really fascinating.

29:30

I like the idea that she has this dream where she does

29:32

it all, and that I

29:35

mean, that's obviously basically what happens.

29:37

She just helps Jason do it all

29:39

because the man is utterly useless

29:41

without her, without everyone on his ship.

29:43

He's such, oh my god, fucking Jason.

29:46

Anyway, this has been super fun to read

29:49

Medeia in this way and this like really

29:51

direct and blunt, like, oh my

29:53

god, the way this woman is overtaken by the

29:55

gods and how she reacts because of it,

29:57

fucking fascinating. Yeah,

30:02

next, we keep going on book three.

30:05

I don't know where we're gonna lead, where we're going to start the contest

30:07

yet or what, but I mean there's some good stuff still

30:09

to come in this book. Fun shit.

30:12

Thank you all so much for listening. As

30:14

always, I am living.

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I love this ship.