Ron Fournier spent two decades covering Presidents and politicians; he was the guy who wrote the first draft of history as the chief White House correspondent for the Associated Press wire. The first flash on September 11? That was his writing. Though he held powerful interests accountable all of his life, he’s become something new in the past several years: a trenchant, caustic critic of American political intuitions. Ron tells me why he thinks the country might turn out worse if Donald Trump isn’t elected president, and why voter anger and millennial frustration might cause the whole damn system to collapse – or, if not collapse, transform into something entirely new.

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