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#778: January 8, 2004

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#778: January 8, 2004

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#778: January 8, 2004

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0:16

Damn, and Jordan, I when at

0:18

it. Acknowledge parties dot

0:20

com. It's starting to break. I have 8 respect

0:22

for the knowledge, 778 knowledge and life.

0:25

I'm sick of them posing as if they're the good guys

0:27

shing

0:28

be. Are the bad guys? Technology. 778

0:30

your knowledge 778 me.

0:35

Need money, please.

0:39

Handy and pansy. Handy and

0:41

pansy and pansy. Handy and

0:44

pansy.

0:45

Handy. Handy. Handy. Handy. Handy. Handy. Handy. Handy. Handy. Handy. Handy. Handy. Handy and pansy. Handy. Handy. Handy and pansy. Handy. Handy. Brake. Andy

0:47

and Dan's a cheerleader. Hello,

0:49

Alex. I'm a assistant colleague with you today.

0:52

I love your word.

0:53

Knowledge fight. 778. No. No. No.

0:55

No. No. No. No. No. No. No knowledge fight. That com. I

0:58

love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back

1:00

to Now, let's try to bed. I'm Jordan.

1:02

Work up a 778. It's like sit around. Where should we put the

1:04

altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex

1:07

Jones.

1:07

Indeed. We are Dan. Dan?

1:11

Yeah. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your

1:13

bright spot Why don't you go

1:15

first? Okay. I will go first. My bright

1:17

spot, Dan, is there is a new

1:19

season of 778.

1:21

From Australia. What? The first

1:23

taskmaster Australia season is

1:25

out. If I had to guess.

1:28

Yep. It's

1:28

great. It's pretty good. 778 pretty

1:30

great. I will tell you this. We've

1:32

discussed the the

1:34

so far, I believe there's three now versions

1:36

of 778 master

1:37

-- There's New Zealand. -- New Zealand

1:39

and Australia. Mhmm. New

1:41

Zealand, we discussed the New Zealand Alex

1:44

position. Fantastic. Incredible.

1:46

The New Zealand 8 Davis position.

1:48

Terrible. Absolute garbage. 778

1:51

it's a different vibe. I understand.

1:54

I I disagree in as much as I think

1:56

that he

1:58

serves his role. 778, yeah, it's very much different

2:00

than -- Where's that role? Yeah. 778? Craig

2:04

Davey's position? Fantastic. Alex

2:06

our position? Garbage.

2:07

Oh. Absolutely. It's it's a complete

2:09

inversion of the form.

2:10

This is kind of weird. This is a

2:14

that you mash up. I I think so.

2:16

I'm telling you. I mean, there what there is

2:18

a 778, you know. But III think

2:20

that the the the Alex Horn on

2:22

this one is is missing the mark --

2:24

Mhmm. -- just by by you of

2:27

few different little little foibles.

2:29

He seems he seems less less

2:31

completely reserved together. Like

2:33

778 of it is you have to be completely deadpan.

2:36

Yeah. You know, he seems like he's he's

2:38

smiling. You know, it's it's a little bit difficult to

2:40

pull off.

2:41

Yeah. Yeah. There is a there's a line.

2:43

I would say the Alex position is far harder.

2:45

Yeah. Of of the two jobs,

2:47

the one where the guy shows up and talks all

2:50

the time. And there's a father's ass. Yeah.

2:52

Yeah. The one where the guy does all

2:54

the work, 778 one is the harder

2:55

job. Yeah. And we have no familiarity

2:58

with those kinds of data. But you also have

3:00

to be, like like you're saying, like, you

3:02

have to you have to walk that line

3:04

of, like, being funny and getting

3:06

the joke, but also -- Yeah. --

3:09

like being all

3:09

business.

3:10

You have to be a day fully in news or

3:12

you have to be a perfect straight man. Yeah.

3:14

Well,

3:14

I I mean, I have a I have a growing suspicion

3:17

that Australia is just better at media.

3:19

It's 778 I mean, we'll

3:21

see. I mean, maybe not better

3:23

than the UK in terms of shows

3:25

that originate from the

3:26

UK, but I mean, in terms of survivor,

3:28

they've -- Yeah. -- they have killed the game.

3:30

Do you think it's because the woke mob hasn't

3:33

gotten to Australia 778? Damn, man.

3:35

The wolves sat out. Thank

3:38

god you 778

3:39

it. Yeah. Finally. You know, it's He

3:41

freely. It's nice to be able talk. You know, now

3:44

that Alex's podcast is off the

3:45

air, we don't need to worry about being made fun of. Survivor.

3:48

Go won't go broke. No.

3:51

It's your 778, Bob. don't think that's the case. I just

3:53

think I I don't know. I don't know exactly

3:56

what it is. They're trying different things

3:58

maybe. I don't know. I gotta watch this taskmaster 778.

4:00

I'll let you know. The Australian challenge was pretty

4:02

good. I'm not sure. I think the Australians know

4:04

how to make a good reality TV

4:06

show. Mhmm. And that may be because Australia

4:08

is only about three and a half miles away from the

4:10

sun. Mhmm. think that could be it. That could

4:12

be real hot. I mean, there are theories that

4:14

abound. Yeah. We'll

4:17

find out one day. My

4:19

bright spot, Jordan, is we

4:22

are in this little bit of a interstitial

4:24

period of things. Yes. In

4:27

as much as we have our live shows coming up.

4:29

Correct. And also just finished

4:31

sending out all the buttons and everything. So we're

4:33

in that that little in between place.

4:36

Yeah. And so I decided what

4:39

we're gonna do is I'm going

4:41

to close the fundraiser

4:43

that we had for the 778. Okay. Good. At

4:46

the end of the week. So if everybody would

4:48

like to join in and throw

4:50

some support to the transgender law

4:53

center that we have been

4:55

raising the funds for with the

4:57

buttons. I realize I haven't mentioned that in

4:59

quite a while.

4:59

Yeah. It hasn't been quite a while. Maybe things

5:01

People have forgotten maybe those donations

5:04

have completely dried up and what have

5:06

you. But if people would like

5:08

to chip in for that, that would be

5:11

that would be wonderful. Yep. It's a great idea.

5:13

And also, yes. We had

5:15

a second person who got a wonka

5:17

button.

5:18

Oh, we got a second wonka button.

5:20

So this is 778 -- Uh-huh.

5:22

-- out there. Got the got the the

5:24

second bright spot

5:25

bar. Right. Okay. And so a donation

5:28

has been made to the the the

5:30

charity of their choice, which is gender

5:33

justice --

5:33

Excellent. -- so spectacular. Thank you

5:35

for for that. And also,

5:37

you're 778 down. Under just

5:39

778 reached out,

5:41

yes, a while ago. Here's

5:44

here's what happened. As is our 778, it

5:47

went 778 the email that you

5:49

778, and you forwarded it to

5:51

me.

5:51

Oh, okay. I was gonna say, I can't I can't believe

5:53

that I would have --

5:54

No. -- skipped that one. You forwarded it to

5:56

me. Alright. And I

5:59

saw it. It was like, Look at that. I'd

6:02

forgot that I need to do 778. Right.

6:06

The protocols didn't kick in. It

6:08

seemed like an announcement less than

6:10

A0I need to do something about

6:12

this. Right. And so completely slipped 778 my mind.

6:15

Right. Right. Until I was going through all

6:17

of the buttons -- Mhmm. -- to finish

6:19

all that up.

6:20

And I

6:20

found that the email was also in there,

6:23

but it took forever to get to the point where I got to

6:25

that because of the fucking Naturally,

6:28

thousands of emails. We

6:32

I mean, I would say something

6:35

in the neighborhood of fifteen

6:37

to seventeen thousand buttons sent

6:39

out to people. Yeah. Countries

6:42

-- Yeah. -- all over every continent

6:44

except Antarctica --

6:45

Yep. -- when you say I don't know if we would be able

6:48

to get any buttons down there.

6:50

We would have to send, like, a a person

6:52

to do that. That's an emissary requirement.

6:54

Here's what I'll say. Because they live underground. 778 button

6:57

requests are done. And we'd have to

6:59

escape the Nazis.

7:00

True. Yeah. Unless they are

7:02

reformed and

7:04

778 could be. No. Oh, okay. No. Not not

7:06

gonna have it. Okay. But button

7:08

request to close. Right. However -- Yes.

7:10

-- if you are an Antarctica, I will make

7:12

an exception. I will

7:14

save you a

7:15

778. Only if you are an 778

7:17

I talked Ed, this is truly because it'd be really

7:19

fucking cool 778

7:20

if there was some random person in Australia.

7:22

Oh, they got it. Yeah.

7:23

Because we need to hit all continents.

7:25

Yeah. 778. that

7:27

Antarctica is a continent? Antarctica is a continent.

7:29

Yes. What a relief? Yeah. So

7:31

anyway, congratulations, Kristen.

7:33

Congratulations, Kristen.

7:35

I don't think the other wonka button is ever

7:37

going to be

7:38

we'll see. And I think

7:40

you've got lost to the mail heading to Scotland.

7:42

Oh, man. I know it was international. don't

7:44

know if it was going to Scotland. Well, there's still

7:47

time. There's still time. I don't think

7:49

there is because I sent it months ago.

7:50

Alright. Well, that is an issue. Yep. That one's

7:52

a Maybe they just don't know that they got

7:54

the special button because it's been so long since

7:56

we've since they

7:58

figure 778, I mean, I don't even remember what it

8:00

looks like. It has it's got a treasure chest

8:02

up. 778? Yeah. Yeah. So that's a bright spot. Right.

8:04

Right. Right.

8:05

Yeah. Yeah. So maybe somebody 778 it and was like,

8:07

what a great button and had no idea

8:09

that that was one of the golden 778? That

8:11

could be. And calling them the golden button

8:13

was big

8:14

mistake, because one of the regular buttons

8:16

was bright yellow. That is that that was AY0CS

8:18

communication. Yeah. So the warrantee reference

8:20

was not a literal reference, which is

8:23

a unfortunate

8:23

apart. Anyway,

8:24

we have an episode to go over today, Jordan. Indeed.

8:26

And I I this is in

8:28

spirit of that interstitial period. Mhmm.

8:31

We have dealt with in the bright 778, the button

8:33

Sure. Now we come to the episode where

8:35

we discuss the

8:37

march up to the live shows. So

8:41

I realized that I

8:43

had made a number of jokes 778

8:46

weren't jokes 778 how one of our live

8:48

shows I want to be about the Howard Dean

8:50

Scream.

8:50

It was very much not a joke. Yes. And

8:52

that seemed very doable

8:55

because we had a bit of time before the

8:57

live show, and it was like, hey, that

8:59

happened in January. That was in

9:01

the early times of the primary.

9:04

Running up on it. Mhmm. What I

9:06

didn't realize was from the point we

9:08

were at -- Mhmm. -- to when that happens,

9:10

was twenty something days

9:13

in two thousand three time. Okay. Which

9:15

is a lot to get through in

9:17

terms of our pace. Mhmm. And I

9:19

was

9:19

like, that's gonna be fucking impossible.

9:21

Yeah. What's that? Sixty hours? Eighty

9:24

hours? Yep. Yep. Ninety.

9:26

That's a big hours. Yeah. Well, no.

9:28

It's not thirty days. But you get the point. It's

9:30

a lot. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot. 778 even

9:33

so even even if, like, listening

9:35

to all of it and going through it, was a

9:37

ton 778 it on

9:39

the show. We didn't have enough episodes

9:42

to get through -- Right. --

9:44

by the time we have the live goes. So

9:46

that was a challenge. Right. And I realized maybe

9:48

the dream was dead.

9:50

It wasn't. Oh,

9:51

I was gonna say, did the episode The dream

9:53

was just

9:53

asleep. Man, to wake up the dream. Yeah.

9:56

Okay. The dream got woke and went broke.

9:58

Oh, boy. don't how

10:00

many more how many more rhymes do we get?

10:02

So here's here's the situation. I started

10:05

going through the two thousand three,

10:07

of course. I'm going through it. And

10:09

we got a little bit lucky because

10:12

part of the time between where we were in

10:14

December and where the scream

10:16

happens 778 January Christmas break and

10:18

New Year's. And New Year's 778. Right. And so

10:21

there were a number of episodes that Alex

10:23

just wasn't there. Don't eat them. Some Reriding

10:25

them off. And what have you? Right. Then

10:28

you also run into a situation where

10:31

he's not trying. Well, to the end of

10:33

the year. Hey.

10:34

It's the beginning of the year. Hey. We've all had

10:36

we've all been there. We've all been

10:38

there.

10:40

778 nothing.

10:41

I will

10:42

778 back to work. Is going on.

10:44

In earnest on January fourth

10:46

or fifth at best. You're being very

10:48

generous. Yeah. So we are

10:50

gonna be able to sort of smash

10:53

forward a little bit. Mhmm. And actually,

10:55

today's episode will be mostly about January

10:57

8. Which is where we jump back

11:00

into anything that I felt

11:02

meant anything. So

11:05

Okay. You can imagine there was a lot of

11:07

listening to

11:09

Yeah.

11:09

How many? That's two full weeks of shows that

11:11

you skipped over. Almost three.

11:14

I didn't skip over that. Oh, wow. I'm allowing

11:16

YouTube. 778. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Apologies. Apologies. Apologies.

11:19

III mean, I mean, in your your

11:21

-- Pricing. -- 778. Just

11:23

nothing. And I think 778

11:26

should be said. I think a large part of

11:28

why these episodes were

11:30

a little bit is there

11:32

were much less calls. Yeah.

11:35

And I don't think that his calls are good

11:37

in two thousand three, but I do think

11:39

there's something in how they

11:41

changed the presentation of the show. Mhmm.

11:43

Like, it breaks up his clear

11:45

non coverage of stories. Yeah. His

11:48

rants are monotonous and boring.

11:50

And so the calls kind of give a

11:52

sidetrack from that. Mhmm. And lot

11:54

of the guests that he has back in two thousand

11:56

three 778 very very interesting either. Right.

11:58

And so having a balance

12:00

of, you know, 778 who

12:03

maybe is aligned with white supremacists.

12:06

778. Right. Don't talk about it. Calls,

12:09

mini rants, and then just rattling

12:11

off headlines -- Right. -- it kind of works.

12:13

But if you take the calls out of

12:15

it, You're left with just

12:17

stuff. It's like a bread sandwich. The

12:20

calls the calls provide the element

12:22

of chaos -- Mhmm. -- that makes

12:24

List 778 the staid almost kind

12:26

of monotonous bullshit worth it. And sometimes

12:29

they inform whatever happens at the rest of the

12:31

show. Right. Right. Last time Alex got really

12:33

bad. There are no planes in Vietnam.

12:35

Ah, Dan. There are no planes

12:37

in Vietnam. Right.

12:38

That is 778, you describe 778 us

12:40

fly them. You describe it as chaos

12:43

and certainly it is, but it's also something

12:45

else. It's also something else. And

12:47

that's a creation. And I think that during this

12:49

period, yeah, like I was saying, there's less calls.

12:52

And I think that hurts hurts things. Mhmm.

12:55

But anyway, we're going to jump into January

12:58

eighth and a little bit before

13:00

that a long way because there's a couple of points

13:02

that I think are are

13:04

are relevant. Yeah.

13:05

But before we do, let's say hello to some new walks.

13:07

778 a great idea. So first, happy anniversary

13:10

sleeping 778 from one charming lizard

13:12

to another baby. Love 778 pet. Thank

13:15

you so much, you're now a policy 778. I'm a

13:17

policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next,

13:19

Bilbo Baggins, boobs. Thank you so much, you're

13:21

now policy

13:22

walk. I'm

13:22

a policy 778. I

13:23

think I might have said that one already in the

13:25

past. I'm not sure. I don't think there's Our ear 778

13:28

aren't good.

13:28

Never

13:28

a bad time. Next, big floppy accordion

13:31

penis. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk.

13:33

I'm a policy walk. Thank you. Sometimes

13:35

we have these these long, clever,

13:38

like, take you on a journey

13:40

once, and sometimes there's something real

13:42

satisfying -- Mhmm. -- about just a big nice,

13:44

old floppy penis. And, hi, mom.

13:46

I'm on the 778. Thank you so much. You're now a policy

13:49

walk.

13:49

I'm a policy walk. Yeah. Thank

13:50

you very much. Good day. Yeah.

13:52

It's yeah. I 778

13:54

position now. And we 778

13:55

couple technocrats in the 778. So first,

13:57

ritual satanic barbecue sauce. Thank

13:59

you so much. You are now a technocrat. Thank

14:02

you so much too. I listened to two hundred

14:04

absurds in two months and I like, oh, this this

14:06

lousy wonk drop, like you so much. You're now,

14:08

778. And this one actually

14:11

I mean, look, I'm getting put on blast, but

14:13

I accept it because, you know, I didn't

14:16

realize it, but it is something that I

14:18

do. And thank you so much. Dan,

14:20

there is no p in the word something.

14:22

Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.

14:25

I'm a policy wonk. I have risen

14:27

above my enemies. I

14:30

I might quit tomorrow. I It's gonna take a

14:32

little breaky down. A

14:34

little breaky for me,

14:37

and then we're going to come

14:39

back

14:41

I'm gonna start the show over. But

14:43

I'm the devil. I gotta be taking all the air up

14:45

and all this 778, blah, blah, blah.

14:47

Fuck you.

14:49

I got plenty of words for you. But at the end

14:51

of the day, fuck you in your new world

14:53

order, and fuck the horse she rode

14:55

in on, and all your shit. Maybe

14:58

today she got on less broadcast. Maybe

15:00

I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.

15:03

Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and

15:05

you never see me again. That's

15:07

really what I wanna do. I never

15:10

778 come back hearing you. I I apologize to

15:12

the crew and the listeners yesterday that I

15:15

was legitimately having breakdowns

15:17

on air.

15:18

I'll be better tomorrow. He's not nope.

15:20

And he never has been. Nope. And he's

15:22

not so great in two thousand three. Like I said,

15:25

it's a lazy slog. He

15:27

kinda is checked out. Sure. I might have

15:29

you. Sure. Sure. Sure. But there is

15:31

very little conversation at

15:34

all about the primaries that

15:36

are coming up. Mhmm. He's very much anti

15:38

Bush, obviously, but there's no real conversation

15:41

778, like, John Edwards, John Kerry

15:43

-- Right. -- even Howard Bean. Who is

15:45

the presumptive front runner coming

15:47

into the

15:48

primaries. Right. Right. Although 778 front

15:51

runner, I think

15:52

it would

15:52

be a fair way to describe it

15:54

because He 778 the primary start.

15:56

He's not very strong.

15:57

It was fairly wide open at that point because

16:00

Bush had a iron grip on the

16:02

world. And

16:03

yeah. He

16:03

did you know, he he was doing quite

16:06

well, and there was a lot of excitement about

16:08

his candidacy. But 778

16:12

underperformed from the 778, I

16:14

would say. Yeah. But

16:16

even as it may, even like before the

16:18

primaries got going, there's a lot 778 Dean

16:20

conversation.

16:21

Mhmm. And so Alex on December

16:23

twenty ninth brings up

16:25

Howard Dean and it turns out does

16:27

not like a dull. But don't worry,

16:29

the snake gene, Howard

16:32

Dean, blast bush over mad cow

16:34

scared. I say that

16:36

because I've been studying Dean and watching him

16:38

and 778 guy's got evil in his

16:40

eyes and evil in his actions. He

16:43

he says Bush didn't do enough quickly enough

16:45

to stem the tide of panic, and he

16:47

says we need federal control and federal

16:49

funding. To help you

16:51

land shoots. And

16:54

I'm not saying I like bush. My point is,

16:56

these guys are all globalist 778. Boat.

16:59

He's another Yay old

17:01

boy. Yeah. So the audio on that episode

17:03

is also borderline unusual. Yeah.

17:05

Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty pretty bad. Yeah.

17:07

778. Yeah. Yeah. 8 Dean. Hate evil.

17:09

Dean's

17:09

a snake. 8 Snack Deans.

17:12

He's he's putting us all on

17:14

double secret probation. Yeah.

17:16

He's he's 778

17:20

it it helped Mad Cow

17:22

or

17:22

something. Yeah. Yeah. I I do appreciate

17:24

how Alex tries to turn even

17:26

the best things into, like,

17:28

oh, he wants to help ranchers.

17:31

Like, no. I mean, yeah, he he does. You

17:33

can say it weird, but that is what he

17:35

wants. There is a lot of

17:38

mad cow talk during this time. Sure.

17:40

It was a very hot issue, cows are 778.

17:42

And Alex has some weird

17:45

thoughts His

17:47

belief seems to be that there

17:49

is so much more mad cow

17:51

than people are

17:52

saying.

17:52

8. So there's a ton of 778 Yes.

17:54

Okay. And most Alzheimer's is

17:56

actually mad cow. Okay. But

17:59

he also doesn't think Dean

18:01

should say we should do anything about it.

18:03

Well,

18:06

778 unclear. I I was in a tough position

18:08

because, obviously, like a

18:10

lot of the the transmission

18:13

of mad cow comes from feeding

18:15

cows. Right. Dead cows -- 778.

18:18

-- or contamination of

18:21

food supplies for farm

18:24

animals. Right. Right. And wash your

18:26

hands, everybody. The issue there

18:28

is ah, how do we solve this? Regulation

18:31

and enforcement of regulation. And

18:35

so that puts Alex in a little bit of a

18:38

bind. And so he he doesn't

18:40

really have much to say other than

18:43

he throws out the the terribly

18:45

Hatsfield Jacob a lot. And I

18:47

guess he thinks that that just proves all his

18:49

points. Sure. He's like, oh, it's just Alzheimer's. Everybody

18:52

is 778 cases are mad. It's

18:54

just

18:54

all 778. Well, no. That's not fair. He's all

18:56

minimizing all time. Right. Right. Right. Right.

18:59

Right. He's saying that it's much more

19:00

prevalent. Sure. Sure. We all

19:02

are already living with

19:04

They're trying to attack the small 778

19:06

and kill off their cows.

19:07

So the problem isn't that

19:10

there's a lot of mad cow. The

19:12

problem is that they've been covering up

19:14

how much mad cow there has been And they're

19:16

making a big deal out of it now in

19:18

778 get these small rangers -- Gotcha.

19:20

-- to put them out of business. The people who Howard

19:22

Dean wants to help. Allegedly.

19:27

So we we enter

19:29

a down period -- Sure. -- whether

19:31

it's not much going on.

19:31

How much going on? And we jumped back in here on

19:34

January fifth. And I'm not actually even

19:36

sure this is super relevant.

19:38

778 Alex talks a little bit about Bush

19:40

and this is

19:43

weird. And this

19:45

weekend, listening to talk radio,

19:47

I heard the big national host, two

19:50

separate ones praising him.

19:52

Oh, he got some quail.

19:56

Oh, he's such a hunter.

19:59

Did you see him? 778

20:01

chain saw. He's such

20:03

a Texan. I

20:05

mean, this should be like if I went to New

20:08

York and and started talking about what

20:10

778 New Yorker. I am. I'm

20:12

tired of it, folks. It should 778 it.

20:15

And then the Crawford Ranch is

20:17

a 778 complete with old

20:19

tractors, hay bales,

20:22

everything. It is a set.

20:24

And a couple times a year, bush goes out

20:27

with chain saw. A giant chain

20:29

saw will cut one inch

20:32

trees and it

20:34

it's just mindless. I I'm just sick

20:36

of it. Oh, he's such a good

20:38

country boy. He's

20:41

like John Wayne. I can't

20:43

handle any more of 778, folks. I'm a I

20:45

don't 067 plus

20:48

generation 778. And I think more than 778,

20:50

what, eighteen 778 nine, span

20:53

next land grants eighteen thirty on

20:55

my father's side of the

20:56

family, my mother's side German immigrants

20:58

in the eighteen forties.

20:59

So you're a legal 778. But it it's

21:01

just a symptom of all the other phoniness.

21:04

The the Turkey put

21:07

together by, you know,

21:09

some shift presented

21:12

to the troops, no one was allowed to eat it.

21:15

The the fable

21:17

of Jessica Lynn 778 that being a

21:19

fabrication. Bush

21:21

and the Madden USA boxes

21:24

behind him last year up

21:27

in Saint Louis, 8 in USA,

21:29

it was really made in China.

21:32

My point is it's an illusion. It

21:35

was an illusion. Illusion with Bill 778. It's

21:37

an illusion with George Bush and so

21:39

many people. I mean, they think, wow,

21:41

he's out hunting for quail. He must

21:43

be pro second amendment. I'm what this

21:45

NeoCon was saying this weekend, then

21:48

I flipped channels here another one praising

21:51

him. Oh, he's so wonderful.

21:54

You know how 778 hard it is to

21:56

to shoot quail. He's so

21:58

manly 778

22:00

quails about the easiest thing there is on

22:02

the face of the planet. You find

22:04

in Quail and you got a shotgun.

22:07

Only a complete moron couldn't shoot

22:09

him. It's a ground bird. I've shot

22:11

778

22:12

John warrant stacks of them. I've

22:15

never missed. I'm

22:17

just tired of it. I can't handle it anymore.

22:20

Why? Are you so mad? About

22:22

people being like, oh, who's 778 quail?

22:25

You know, I think for people

22:29

who have such deep seated

22:32

roots Mhmm. -- in a place. The

22:34

idea of somebody some carpet

22:36

bagger coming in and putting on these

22:38

affectations. Mhmm. Someone who

22:41

778 as though there was somebody who didn't have

22:43

millions of dollars. Mhmm. Acting as

22:45

though they were like the every man. Sure.

22:47

Someone who didn't have even one

22:49

boat. Mhmm. You know, they were trying to act like

22:51

something they weren't. Mhmm. You know,

22:53

I think that made him really angry 778

22:56

see someone else act

22:58

like a thing that they were not actually

23:00

themselves. Yeah.

23:02

Yeah. III get what you're

23:04

putting down there.

23:05

Yeah. I was being real subtle. Yeah.

23:07

I think there's a mix of that and maybe

23:10

just a little jealousy that 778 one gives sense

23:12

exactly

23:13

what it is. It's jealousy. Yes. No one gives

23:15

me credit for being a

23:16

big manly man who shoots sexy quails.

23:18

You should see. It's one hundred percent jealousy.

23:20

I want people to say how great a Texan

23:23

I am. That's why I'm gonna vote for guy

23:25

who I think will call me the Texan

23:27

in the White House.

23:28

True. He's wrapped up in that identity.

23:30

He's wrapped up in that identity. Yeah.

23:32

I mean, sure. I guess 778 their

23:35

Crawford Ranch 778, like, a

23:38

fully operating ranch, but

23:40

like how could it be? Yeah. They have

23:43

lives in the

23:45

city. They don't they need

23:46

to.

23:46

I think is Alex's family

23:48

ranch a fully 8 ranch? It

23:51

and Alex works on it for fourteen hours

23:53

every day while research in a while

23:55

also recording his

23:56

show. I don't think it was, but I think 778,

23:59

if you remember, Alex says his dad's getting back into

24:02

cattle. Yes. I do remember that there's some cattle

24:04

on the ranch. All of that. 778 oh,

24:06

god. Yeah. I don't know. I just I

24:08

just felt like, oh, this is interpersonal. Yeah.

24:11

This is this is political. This is dope.

24:13

This is Alex. That's his heart. In his feelings.

24:15

Yep. So,

24:18

again, a little bit of a dull stretch, and

24:20

we get to January 8, and

24:22

we get some deans 8 we

24:25

get into the meat. Well, a scandal has

24:27

broken out. A scandal? Yes. Oh,

24:29

shit. This is not something I

24:31

remember. Very good. So

24:34

we know that they staged. We know that

24:36

it's an advertisement technique of

24:38

propaganda. 778 a pitch Okay?

24:41

That's what's happening. They're using high-tech

24:43

advertisement techniques to

24:45

sell us an image, to sell us an idea

24:48

that 778 are saviors. Give our rights

24:50

up. They'll keep us safe. But

24:53

the hypocrisy comes in here. This

24:55

is all for Rush Limbaugh's website. The aching

24:57

of the money

24:58

shot. And it

25:00

says, did any of you wonder when you saw

25:02

this photo of Howard Dean and Bill Bradley?

25:06

Who D in Iowa, how the diminutive

25:08

doctor Dean, who claims to be five, eight,

25:11

and three quarters, appears the

25:13

same size as six five former

25:15

NBA far. We did too.

25:17

While the image is below grab from CNN's

25:19

comment, show us how that feat was pulled

25:21

off with some skillful. Why 778. Click

25:24

the panels for larger images, and

25:27

they've got a clip to provide and

25:29

to see what's afoot. They 778 video clip.

25:32

In the foot, first 778, Bradley is speaking,

25:34

and you'll notice that he's standing on a 778. While

25:36

Dean watches far in the background, when Bradley introduces

25:39

Dean, they 778 places Dean steps up

25:41

and Bradley steps down. The

25:43

series of images show from behind

25:46

how their position switch puts them at a

25:48

relatively equal height. How

25:50

having dupe their willing accomplices in the 778.

25:52

What? They think all of us, you

25:54

idiots in America. They 778 for

25:57

the money shot and said OUR 778

26:00

CHALLENGE DEMOCRAT FRONT RUNNER IS

26:03

THE IMPOSING LOOKING AS THE FORMER

26:05

NBA SUPERSTAR are endorsing him.

26:09

And, yes, this is how they 778

26:11

things, but that's the oldest thing in

26:13

the book

26:15

where politics that aren't very tall

26:17

to have a box.

26:20

Yep. So the scandal

26:22

is Resilient Ball is

26:25

Yeah. Really mad --

26:26

Yep. -- that they made they

26:28

gave a box or a

26:30

platform -- Sure. -- so

26:32

Howard Dean would look as tall as Bill

26:34

Bradley, which no one in their right

26:37

mind would think is

26:39

like they're standing on level

26:41

platforms if they are appearing

26:43

to be the same

26:44

height. Because he's

26:46

a tall man. Now while I

26:48

recognize that it is two thousand

26:51

778, which is the past and I remember all of

26:53

us being much much less sophisticated

26:57

back then. Yeah. But I

26:59

truly believe that

27:01

no one was

27:02

like, wow, look at six foot

27:04

five Howard Dean. Yeah. And and

27:06

I don't think anybody thought that. One of the

27:09

big photos that you can find here.

27:11

If you'll look at my screen

27:12

there, that's from Getty images. Yeah.

27:14

And it shows It clearly

27:16

shows Bill Bradley again.

27:18

No one's actually taller. He was in

27:20

the NBA. No one could possibly if

27:22

and maybe here's what I would accept. If 778

27:25

was, like, a guy if it was a guy my height,

27:27

you know, six feet 778, and and

27:29

he looked exactly my height. And we're

27:31

only talking about, you know, vision a

27:34

few inches in the It's like his dating

27:36

profile height. Know, like, I'm five foot

27:38

ten on my dating 778. That kind of thing. Mhmm.

27:40

You know, maybe that's that's

27:42

a little bit of possible

27:44

deception. Possible 778, something

27:46

like that. He said he's five, eight, and three quarters.

27:48

That's bad enough. But Bill When you're hanging

27:50

out into the quarters, the height of

27:52

Michael fucking

27:53

Jordan.

27:54

778. There's no way that you're gonna be like,

27:56

oh, I think that is hip. That's crazy. I

27:58

also wasn't fully paying attention

28:01

as I was listening to this. I 778 distracted

28:03

by something. And I thought they were talking about

28:05

Sean

28:05

Bradley. And I was like, that's gonna

28:07

be tough to cheat. Yeah. You're gonna need a

28:10

big platform.

28:12

778 mean, better than Mary and Bradley, I suppose.

28:14

Okay.

28:16

He was Mary and Bradley. He was six foot eight. Sean

28:18

Bradley was 77I know. That's what

28:20

I'm saying.

28:20

Okay. That would be better.

28:22

Yeah. If Sean Bradley,

28:24

if Bill Bradley, we're next to each other. Right?

28:26

They need to cheat

28:27

it. If

28:28

Sean Bradley, we're next to Bill Bradley.

28:30

We're next to Howard Dean. Woo. That's

28:33

that's like your chart of evolution is what that

28:35

is. That's like a roller

28:37

coaster slash. Yes.

28:39

Slowed 778 word.

28:40

Tony Hawk should jump off of the ramp 778

28:42

that they're all three holding. So I

28:44

I thought this was pretty 778. And

28:47

maybe not that interesting. Oh, yeah. And I was

28:49

getting ready to judge Alex for it.

28:51

Sure. But then there's a twist. Okay. Of

28:53

course, there's a twist. Alex doesn't really

28:55

care about this. Okay.

28:57

778 why

28:58

I acres swim ball. 778 there and

29:00

make a big deal 778 of Howard Dean trying

29:02

to look tall. Him

29:04

compared to people committing felonies,

29:08

fair or handing out fake

29:10

turkeys. And I fair.

29:13

These very talk show hosts, these 778.

29:16

They don't care about open borders 778 don't

29:18

care about bush planning to sign the assault weapons

29:20

ban 778 don't care about all the, you know,

29:22

the 778 of Taiwan to China. They don't

29:25

care about that. They

29:27

squeal when Hillary went to Afghanistan

29:29

to present Turkey to the troops.

29:32

And of course, it was a staged event.

29:34

Yes. It's obvious, but

29:36

it was bad when she did it. And simultaneously,

29:39

I heard it on one Nashville. Show the same ten minutes.

29:42

Good when Bush does it. Yep.

29:44

So it's Yeah.

29:45

You got it, man. You figured out how American

29:47

politics work. I I thought I thought

29:49

it was interesting that you have this

29:53

stupid critique of

29:56

the presumptive Democratic 778 runner

29:59

primaries. Sure. And Alex resists

30:02

taking that and actually aims the 778

30:05

at rush limbaugh. Yeah. And these

30:07

folks who are like, why are you so mad about this,

30:09

but not mad at Bush doing photo ops.

30:11

Right. Stuff. I thought that was interesting

30:14

778 it's it's a small maybe

30:17

not that important point. Sure.

30:19

But it's

30:21

It is It's at least, like, I can't really

30:23

argue with it. It is more interesting than

30:25

what Rush Limbaugh did. Yes. So

30:27

that's a that an achievement

30:29

for

30:30

Alex.

30:30

Mhmm. We

30:30

should all be very proud of him in two thousand

30:32

three. Well, he's prioritizing a

30:35

778 at liberty over

30:37

Dean.

30:38

Yeah. Which is something.

30:41

While at the same time wrapping

30:43

it all up in his other

30:45

meaningless pot 778 towards other

30:47

people staging

30:48

bullshit. Fair. Yeah. So

30:50

778, none of it means anything.

30:52

Nope. And neither does this next

30:55

call. I just wanted one

30:57

another comment. I used to work at

30:59

this television show. I don't know if I should

31:01

say name because it might give them that

31:03

name. But You

31:04

can say the name of anything you want, sir. It's

31:06

called the first amendment. Exactly. And well, that's

31:08

what I'm about to get to. Okay. Brenda

31:10

mine out work with e 778 to roommate with

31:12

him, but moved out because he was just complete. I

31:16

don't know it's, I guess, jerk maybe.

31:18

Okay. Fine. Go ahead. And I

31:20

brought up couple of 778. You know, I was like, yeah, you should

31:22

really listen to this guy on the radio. He's

31:24

like, oh, radio shows are blah

31:27

blah blah and 778 trying to trying

31:29

to talk back 778.

31:31

were trying to just say that your your

31:33

778 was lost. And I was like, you know, no,

31:36

he makes him play since to me. I

31:38

think outside the bar bucks, you know. And

31:40

I guess he's just brainwashed or

31:42

something, but -- Sure. -- I

31:44

tried to tell him about Pearl Harbor and how

31:46

the president knew as it's,

31:48

like, two weeks in

31:49

advance. And he's, like, oh, they didn't they didn't know

31:51

that. They don't

31:52

778 be classified in public now.

31:54

Yeah. And everybody of the

31:56

work, but 778 was crazy or some 778. They

31:59

labeled me anti American just because

32:01

I believe the 778 not a good

32:02

person.

32:03

And

32:03

the good government can't be trusted. You know what I

32:05

thought 778 was it made me really mad because

32:08

I mean

32:08

So I guess all the founding fathers are terrorists

32:10

because they said don't trust the government. All

32:12

the founding fathers who made the

32:14

government. Anyway,

32:17

yeah, this guy is is wrong.

32:19

Yeah. That was Alex. Yep. 778 is not

32:22

widely documented and declassified

32:24

that FDR knew about

32:26

the Pearl Harbor bombing two weeks in

32:28

advance. Yeah.

32:28

That would have been an issue. That is an

32:30

interesting conspiracy theory that has, like,

32:32

come down from the sort

32:34

of anti interventionists --

32:37

Yeah. -- of that time. Yeah. You know, obviously,

32:39

a lot of people had the let's not get

32:41

into the war 778. And not

32:43

all of them were Nazi sympathizer. Sure. Sure.

32:45

Sure. Sure. Sure. But I do think a lot of ones who may be

32:47

drifted towards these conspiracy theories,

32:50

who may might 778 had some overlap

32:52

with people who had some maybe

32:55

sympathies. Yeah. That doesn't sound too.

32:57

But then the the two weeks

32:59

in advance and the declassified

33:01

stuff, a lot of that has to do with

33:03

a book called Dave 778. Mhmm. By

33:05

a guy named Robert stint

33:07

it.

33:07

And it's all just nonsense. Yes.

33:10

But anyway I think I think we

33:12

would have found out if time travel had

33:15

existed through that last

33:17

clip. Interesting.

33:18

Because how do

33:19

you mean? Because if time travel existed,

33:21

then once Alex said Sir, you

33:23

can say anything you want. It's called the first amendment.

33:26

Future Alex would have tackled him

33:28

off of the stage and been

33:29

like, hey man, you can not

33:31

say whatever you want.

33:33

I get it. I wanted that guy to say what TV

33:35

show we worked on. I know. 778 would have been

33:37

interesting because think that's law and order. No.

33:41

I would bet dollars to doughnuts 778- Yeah.

33:44

-- that you'd never have heard of

33:46

the show. Yeah.

33:46

And it's not because of the the

33:48

time that it was two thousand three. Sure. It would have

33:50

been show that no one had ever heard of.

33:52

And it might have been on local access.

33:54

Right. Right. Right. But that would make sense.

33:57

So at least we've got a call. Yeah.

33:59

That's

33:59

good. Sure. Matt? The

34:02

reason I decided He actually worked on Aquatene

34:04

Hunger Force.

34:05

In two thousand three? Yeah. With low

34:07

Is that concurrent?

34:08

I think it wasn't that far off. I think

34:10

I might be maybe, like, three years off.

34:13

778 weird to think about. Yeah. It is. Let's not dwell

34:15

any longer. Okay. Invite. How old do you?

34:19

So the reason

34:21

I decided to stop

34:23

on January 8 -- Yeah. Was I

34:25

heard that Alex had a guest on 778 I

34:28

got pretty excited about. Mhmm. And it's a guy

34:30

named 778 Bursey. He's

34:32

a guy who is a progressive

34:37

activist -- Sure. -- and has been for

34:39

very long time. Interesting. And he

34:41

had been arrested for protesting Bush

34:44

in two thousand two. I'm listening. And

34:46

so I thought like, well,

34:48

this dynamic is going to be fascinating.

34:51

And so Alex discusses his

34:53

arrest a little bit here.

34:55

Okay. The 778 Department is now prosecuting

34:58

Brett Bursey 778

35:00

was arrested for holding a no

35:02

war for oil sign at BUSH

35:04

visits to Columbus, South Carolina. Local

35:07

police acting under secret service orders

35:09

778 a free speech zone. Half

35:11

a mile from where Bush would speak. Burke

35:13

Bersey was standing amid hundreds of people hearing

35:16

signs praising the president. Police told

35:18

Bersey to remove himself to a free speech

35:20

zone. Bersey refused and was

35:22

arrested Bergie said that he

35:24

asked the police officer, it

35:26

was the content of my sign. And

35:28

he said, yes, sir. It's the content

35:30

of your

35:31

sign. That's the problem.

35:32

So this is a little bit of pickle because

35:35

in many ways, Alex is on the right side

35:37

of the issue here in as much as it is

35:39

true that Bush AND HIS ADMINISTRATION WERE NOT

35:41

RESPECTFUL OF PROTESTERS 778 AND

35:43

THERE ARE A Myriad OF EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO

35:45

RECEIVED 778 THEY PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE

35:47

BECAUSE OF THAT. On the other hand, Alex

35:50

is full of shit. And he doesn't even deal with

35:52

this story appropriately, which I can 778,

35:54

is a testament to how unreliable Alex

35:57

Jones is as a person to listen to.

35:59

Even when he's making an argument you agree

36:01

with, you can't really be sure he's making

36:03

that argument on a basis that you should agree

36:06

with. And you can really never know if

36:08

the things that he's saying are accurate and

36:10

true. And what's most important

36:12

is you cannot trust him even if

36:14

he does help you out with whatever it is you're

36:16

doing. I expect him to immediately

36:19

change his mind instantly. That's a

36:21

it's a liability. Yeah. So this is a story

36:23

about this guy named 778 Bursey, who's a

36:25

longtime South Carolina progressive activist.

36:28

When I say long time, I mean that he

36:30

was arrested for vandalizing the selective

36:32

service offices in nineteen seventy over

36:34

his opposition to the war

36:36

Vietnam.

36:36

Fuck yeah. He has a huge resume and

36:38

this is far from the first time he was arrested.

36:41

Yeah. And when you get right down to it,

36:43

If you look at his record, it doesn't seem like

36:45

he and Alex would get along at all. For

36:47

example, he was once arrested for burning a

36:50

confederate lag which Alex would take

36:52

issue with. Hell yeah. He protested the

36:54

candidacy of 778 Maddox for Georgia

36:56

governor in nineteen sixty six. Mavox

36:59

was a segregationist who would go on to win

37:01

the election and be supporter of George Wallace's

37:03

nineteen sixty eight presidential campaign,

37:05

which employed most of the people who

37:07

formed Alex's ideology like

37:09

Gary Allen. Beyond that, was

37:12

a member of the Southern 778 organized

37:14

AND COMMITTEE WHICH WOULD LATER BE FOLDED INTO

37:16

THESE STUDENTS FOR A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. AND

37:18

I THINK YOU CAN GUESS WHAT ALEX'S FOURFATHER

37:20

IS IN THE JOHN BURN society had to say about

37:22

that. Oh,

37:22

no. They loved it. They were definitely not communist

37:25

sympathizers.

37:26

He found it and is still

37:28

a director of the South Carolina progressive

37:30

network who 8 around issues of social

37:32

justice, including LGBTQ rights,

37:35

which Alex is a staunch opponent

37:37

of

37:37

Like, still now or still in two thousand three?

37:40

Two Right. Until twenty twenty

37:42

three. Yeah. Damn this dude is a

37:44

a fuck yeah, man.

37:45

Short, if there ever was a lifelong globalist

37:48

agitator according to Alex's ideology,

37:50

Brett Bursey would fit that bill. Yeah.

37:52

As for the issue of his arrest in two thousand

37:54

two, there's some fudging of details

37:56

here in order to sell the 778, but at the same

37:59

time, it is almost certainly nonsense

38:01

that he was arrested. There are couple

38:03

of misrepresentations in the clip that we just

38:05

heard from Alex. The first is that Alex said

38:07

that the 778 Service set up a free speech 778,

38:09

half a mile from where bush going to 778. And

38:12

that's not strictly accurate. They

38:14

set up a restricted area that was a hundred

38:16

yards in each side of this

38:18

hanger. And then half of my mile in

38:20

the area between the hanger and the highway.

38:22

Sure. However, it is worth noting that

38:25

an official from the airport told the New York times

38:27

that they set up a free speech

38:28

zone, half mile from the hanger. So that

38:30

could be where that

38:31

information is coming from. Yeah. Yeah. The hanger

38:34

is where the rally was taking place, not where bush

38:36

was landing just to be clear. So I had to get there

38:38

to the hanger. The restricted

38:40

area was not fully restricted the

38:42

whole time. THIS IS

38:44

THE PIECE THAT ALEX ISN'T CLARIFIED WHEN HE SAYS

38:46

THAT BERSEY WAS STANDING AMONG HUNDREDS

38:48

OF PEOPLE. HE DEFINITELY WAS

38:51

AT ONE 778. Because the restricted area

38:53

was free for pedestrians to mill

38:55

about until pretty shortly before

38:57

bush arrived. The people who attending

38:59

the rally needed to wait in line to get in.

39:01

People who were waiting in line for tickets were there,

39:03

and there were people with signs within the restricted

39:06

area until it was shut down. Once

39:08

the restricted areas became restricted, the

39:10

ticketed rally 778 went into the

39:12

hanger and everyone else was asked to exit

39:15

the area which according to court documents

39:17

was what happened, except with Bursey.

39:20

Right. Bursey has said that the officer said the

39:22

content of his sign was the problem but outside

39:24

of the statement, can't find corroboration of

39:26

that. It's entirely possible that

39:28

it was said, or it's possible

39:30

that the content of his sign to 778 indicated

39:33

that he was not a ticketed rally

39:35

goer, so that meant that the protocol

39:37

would be you have to move. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. You know,

39:40

like, It

39:40

would Yeah. 778 it would not I know you didn't

39:42

buy a

39:42

ticket. It wouldn't be plausible for the officer to

39:44

think, like, hey, maybe you're waiting in line to get

39:46

in at that point. Well, George Bush, I hope he gets

39:49

it on fire by a wow. Wombat.

39:51

Yeah. You didn't buy a

39:52

ticket, sir. Go on.

39:53

Get on. 778

39:54

dollars. Exactly. Like, 778? Come on, man. It seems

39:56

it

39:56

seems unlikely. Yeah. And

39:59

so, like, none of this is to say that he should

40:01

have been arrested, but the particulars of

40:03

it are not really being accurately

40:05

conveyed. I don't Right. Right. Right. But, I mean,

40:07

even then, the the issues

40:10

that there were free speech zones and that's fucked

40:12

up. And everything about that was going

40:14

to lead to him being arrested if you --

40:16

Well, I might not. -- it 778 becomes it

40:19

becomes a pretty hard

40:21

question of 778

40:23

what point is it at abuse of restricting

40:25

areas? And at what

40:27

point is it a common

40:30

sense, rational need

40:32

to protect people. Right. And

40:35

I think there are probably a bit on

40:37

the wrong side of

40:38

778. I think the Bush administration probably

40:40

did abuse some of that restricted

40:42

area. I I appreciate 8 appreciate

40:45

me. I think

40:47

they'd 778

40:49

couple. But I also don't think I don't think

40:51

in principle 778 blanket wrong

40:53

to have restricted areas where there

40:55

are people who should be the

40:57

778. I recognize what 778 throwing

41:00

a shoes. I

41:00

recognize what you're saying. 778 again, he had

41:02

that shoe coming. So we have

41:05

a lot of them. We have a lot of them. We

41:09

have to balance some things, and

41:11

I do think that this was out of balance. 778

41:14

at the same time, it's important

41:16

to wrestle with that, I think. And

41:18

Alex is giving no

41:20

time.

41:21

Yeah. It's easier to say, hey, that was fucked

41:23

up, but it's a lot harder to say, how do we fix

41:25

778? And make sure it doesn't

41:26

happen. Right. Yeah. So but

41:29

the misrepresentations, I believe, keep going.

41:31

Ernie stated that he had already moved two

41:33

hundred yards from where Bush was supposed to

41:35

speak. Ernie later complained the

41:37

problem was 778 could area kept

41:40

moving. It was wherever I happen to be

41:42

standing. That is also not accurate.

41:44

What happened is that Bursey set up

41:46

shop on the 778 corner of Airport

41:48

Boulevard in Lexington Drive with signs

41:51

and a megaphone. When he was approached

41:53

by officers, he decided to cross the street

41:55

and go to the northwest corner of the

41:57

same intersection. Both of these

41:59

corners were within the restricted zone.

42:02

The zone didn't move to where he was.

42:04

He just wasn't aware of where the boundaries

42:06

were. I don't fully fault Bursey

42:09

for this one because from everything I can tell, the boundaries

42:11

of the zone may not have been well communicated in

42:14

as much as there weren't, like, barriers

42:17

and stuff to fully say you have to

42:19

be behind this line.

42:20

Boundaries of the zone were wherever it was

42:22

the cops felt comfortable with people being

42:24

outside of the zone. Not necessarily.

42:26

Right. It was an established area.

42:30

Right. It was set. I mean, THOUGH.

42:32

THERE WASN'T AN EXACT LINE. THERE

42:34

WAS, BUT IT WASN'T 8. 778. AND

42:37

THAT COULD GIVE THE PURA that

42:40

it is arbitrary or wherever the police

42:42

wanted it to

42:42

be. Right. But from everything I can tell

42:44

from looking at the court documents, that

42:47

is not the case.

42:48

Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I mean, again, if you're

42:50

gonna have a restricted zone, put orange cones

42:52

up. It feels it feels absurd to disagree. You

42:54

know, it feels absurd that we're here. It was

42:56

fully explained to him

42:59

I, the officers. Sure. 778, yes, I

43:01

totally agree. There should be Put up

43:03

some

43:03

fucking cones. What do we do? At very least,

43:05

there should be physical representations of

43:07

letters. This is the line. Yeah. Please

43:09

stay behind the line for everyone's

43:11

safe. Yeah. And that's that's the other

43:13

version of, you know, like, oh,

43:16

people bought tickets. We need to make sure that this

43:18

area is safe. Keeping that line

43:20

and making that something that people are aware of

43:22

is the same thing. 778 keeping them

43:24

safe. Mhmm. You cannot have a

43:27

question about that. Otherwise, that's going

43:29

to become a point of

43:30

contention. True. And then you're gonna

43:32

get into an argument. So

43:34

there there's pretty severe consequences coming.

43:37

Sheriff of this. Barzin was

43:39

of trespassing five months later, the charge

43:41

was dropped because of South Carolina

43:43

law prohibits

43:44

arresting people for trespassing on public property.

43:47

But the

43:48

judge is 778 in the person of

43:50

US 778, 778 Thurman

43:52

Jr. Okay. In

43:55

charging merging with

43:57

violating a rarely enforced federal

43:59

law regarding entering

44:01

a restricted area around the president of the

44:03

United

44:04

States. If 778, did. Birdsie

44:06

faces a six month trip up the

44:08

river at a five thousand dollar fine

44:10

federal magistrate Risto, Mark

44:13

778, did NIDE REQUEST

44:15

FOR A JURY TRIAL. Reporter: SO IT IS

44:17

TRUE THAT SOUTH CAROLINA'S 778 STATUE

44:20

WAS UNapplicABLE BECAUSE THE AIRPORT

44:22

IS PUBLIC PROPERTY. 778 seems completely

44:24

insane to me that Straumann Junior

44:26

would deem this something worth wasting public

44:29

resources on to recharge this

44:31

case, but you can see his name, so

44:33

you shouldn't expect much from this guy. Can't

44:35

imagine a Strom really being on

44:37

the wrong side of history. It's fascinating.

44:39

I mean, he is Strom Thurman's son. Right.

44:41

And then his son is named 778

44:44

III. Oh my god. And, like, I don't blame

44:46

him for being named Straumann Joonoon. Sure.

44:48

He didn't choose that.

44:49

But now that he's got a third.

44:50

Yeah. It's his name. Yep. What's

44:52

so great about the name, 778. You know you

44:54

know what I love most about America

44:57

is that we decide SIDED. AT THE VERY

44:59

BEGINNING, WE DECLINATION OF

45:02

INDEPENDENCE. NO ARISTOCRACY,

45:05

Dan. NO 778 RULING

45:08

class. No more of this

45:11

778 power from the king

45:13

to his son to the

45:14

son. None of that. It's all about

45:16

merit, Dan. That's what America's

45:19

about. And that's why we need

45:21

to repeal the death tax. Yes. Exactly.

45:26

778. Interesting. So

45:28

Alex is also he's discussing

45:30

this punishment that Bursey could face in

45:32

terms of, like, absolute worst case

45:34

scenarios, which were never going to

45:37

be applied. In the end, he got convicted

45:39

and he had to pay five hundred dollar fine with ten

45:41

dollar assessment on top. That was

45:43

the verdict that came down on January sixth

45:45

778 days before Alex is doing this

45:47

episode.

45:48

Uh-huh. To case every reason to know that he's

45:50

full of shit about what the consequences were.

45:52

Right. Right. Right. Hershey appealed his case and

45:54

the court upheld the lower court's judgment

45:56

It seems really fucking 778, and

45:59

the abuse of these free speech zones was

46:01

a big issue in the early

46:03

two thousands. LEADING

46:05

THE CHARGE AGAINST THESE FREE SPEECH

46:07

ZONE. AND ALL THIS WAS NOT OTHER

46:09

THAN ALEX' 778 ENEMY, THE ACOU.

46:11

Who constantly seem to be doing the things that

46:14

Alex wishes someone would

46:15

do. Yeah. Just weird. Yeah. Weird.

46:18

Yeah. Yeah. You know, it is it's almost like

46:20

if Alex believed the things

46:23

that he was

46:23

saying, his career would

46:25

look eerily similar 778

46:29

yeah. I mean, he'd at

46:31

least recognize that this isn't, like,

46:34

the evil globalist

46:35

all -- Yeah. -- 778 that he pretends

46:38

it is. Yeah. They're

46:39

constantly doing the things that he screams

46:41

about needing to be done. Yep. Well, for the most

46:43

part, Maybe not -- Rare. -- maybe not all the time,

46:45

because some of his ideas are little bit

46:47

nuts. Right. Yeah. So 8,

46:49

you heard there at the end that he's not gonna get

46:52

a jury

46:52

trial. And that's, you

46:54

know, that's the case. Federal 8,

46:57

778, Mark 778, denied

46:59

Bersey's request for a jury trial. Oh,

47:04

another little caveat. I thought we

47:06

got those because his violation

47:08

is categorized as a petty offense. I

47:11

love this stuff. It's they got laws all over

47:13

the country where they take your house. If you

47:15

leave

47:15

town, your twenty year old son has a beer 778,

47:18

they

47:18

got several cities in New Mexico do this,

47:20

and then they come in and take your house and you can't

47:23

have a trial

47:23

because, well, it's a it's it's

47:26

a city ordinance, but the ordinance

47:28

says they 778 your house, but you don't get

47:30

a trial. Man, I've been to all

47:32

kinds of beer parties in my life. A

47:34

ton of them were at people's parents houses. Yep.

47:37

A bunch of them got busted up by the cops.

47:39

I guess I was lucky that I grew up in Missouri where

47:41

you don't lose your home if your child has a beer

47:43

party while you're at the

47:44

town. Yeah. That would have been that would have

47:46

been a real interesting next day at school.

47:48

Yeah. You know, like, hey, what happened? That

47:50

party you threw was so great last

47:52

night. mean, I left a little bit early,

47:55

so I heard the cops What happened

47:56

next?

47:56

don't have a home anymore.

47:58

Oh. Oh. You don't

48:00

have a

48:01

And I can't count the number of times me and my

48:03

buddies would be hanging out and they're like, you're going to

48:05

the beer party time.

48:06

Better watch out. They might seal your folks' house.

48:09

Oh, man. It's just a it's an a 778,

48:11

but it's not a beer party. We got

48:13

vodka this

48:14

time.

48:15

Oh, well, they can't do anything.

48:16

We got a jungle juice party.

48:18

Cool. 778 I lock the doors. Otherwise, the cops

48:20

will steal it. Anyway, I wanna put little bow on this

48:22

section here where Alex is telling the story of Brett

48:24

Bursey. He and I can be IN AGREEMENT

48:26

ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE ISSUE, NAMELY THAT BERSEY

48:29

SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED AND THAT BUSH'S

48:31

778 WAS A TIME WHEN THE RIGHT TO PROTEST WAS BEING

48:33

CHILLED BY THE GOVERNMENT and that's a big problem.

48:36

However, this is a conversation and

48:38

an argument that you can make on

48:40

its merits. Yeah. You don't have to mischaracterize

48:43

a situation, fudge details and sensationalize

48:45

things in order to make that point

48:47

valid. And this is part of the reason why

48:50

it isn't useful necessarily

48:53

to listen to

48:55

Alex in order to even to get a

48:57

good point. Right. Right. Right. You can get that

48:59

good point or articulated more really

49:02

and more honestly and

49:05

just as well somewhere else. Right.

49:07

Maybe it won't be as entertaining. Maybe you

49:09

won't the person isn't gonna scream. Like,

49:11

Terry Gross isn't gonna scream. Right.

49:14

But you might get better information that

49:16

can be more useful to your

49:17

life. Yeah. You know, I'm mean, what

49:20

you've done is made a really

49:22

compelling point for why both

49:24

Alex and the media are

49:26

are are really incapable of

49:28

doing a good job, which is that

49:31

Alex is able to sensational

49:33

finalize this story to the point where

49:35

maybe you would find it more interesting than

49:38

if it were to be told in the media. However,

49:41

it is far less 778. Whereas the media

49:43

doesn't know how to sensationalize

49:45

an accurate story 778 relying

49:48

on any number of different

49:50

slight of hate 778 you wonder

49:53

if that sensationalizing in

49:55

and of itself

49:57

is 778 hurts the

49:59

truth fact factor.

50:00

Wow. I mean, I think that's I think we're the

50:02

example of that

50:03

though. I

50:05

mean, clearly, I heard the truth factor. Yeah.

50:09

I've been meaning to talk to you about that. No.

50:15

I think I think that the the thing

50:17

that I come to is that there's there's

50:19

this like Alex's reporting of this story

50:21

in in such a way 8 if you or somebody

50:23

who listened to him and you were trying to make this argument

50:25

that Bush's chilling the free speech

50:28

of people being able to protest. Right?

50:30

And you're you're making this argument to somebody,

50:32

and they're like, this guy got six months

50:34

in jail just for having this sign and

50:36

someone was able to say, you got a five hundred dollar

50:38

fine. You don't even know what you're talking about. Right.

50:40

Right. You'll lose the ability to

50:42

come off as like knowing your

50:45

778. Totally. When you are 778. Right.

50:48

Your point is correct. 778 you

50:50

have,

50:50

like, ammunition that will

50:52

jam your gun. Basically, if you wanna

50:54

use that metaphor. And that's but that's Alex's

50:57

child like but that's Alex

50:59

being a child. That's Alex being a child

51:01

because he cannot process

51:03

the idea that you would give a

51:05

shit over as five hundred dollar fine.

51:08

So to him, it's like if I tell you

51:10

this injustice happened,

51:12

but the only consequence of the injustice

51:14

was five hundred

51:15

bucks, you'll be like, there are worse things.

51:18

Right. You know, I I don't I don't particularly care

51:20

that much about a five hundred dollar fine. I think

51:22

it's kind of like a small thing

51:25

in the grand scheme compared 778, like,

51:27

six months. Sure. Sure. Sure. No. No. Absolutely.

51:29

It's also the principle of the thing. This

51:31

is what's important. And I think that

51:33

everything I can tell about this Bursey

51:36

guy, I would

51:38

assume that though he appealed the

51:40

case, it was not about not paying

51:42

five hundred

51:42

dollars? No. It was about the

51:45

principle of the matter. Yeah.

51:46

And about

51:47

justice ostensibly. And I also think

51:49

that 778 from everything you can tell from his history,

51:51

he did a number of things

51:54

that were meant to be

51:56

confrontational in terms of

51:57

protesting.

51:58

Hell yeah. THEY'S VANDALOT IS THERE'S A

52:00

RICK THROUGH THE 778 SERVICE OFFICE.

52:02

HE HAD TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A RISK

52:04

THAT YOU WERE GOING to face jail time

52:07

for

52:07

778. Yeah. And he did. And

52:08

he chose it. Yeah. And he chose it. Yeah. And

52:10

he continued -- Right. -- and he faced his consequences.

52:13

778 when he accepted them and that

52:15

went

52:16

that's 778. Yeah. Exactly.

52:18

778 that vein of protest

52:20

that he is involved in or was involved

52:22

in as a younger person, probably not

52:24

now as a like, I don't know how

52:27

old he is, but he's, you know, not

52:29

not to college 778 anymore.

52:31

We'll see him five years down on fine.

52:33

778, like, that is a risk

52:36

that you accept when you

52:38

put yourself in places where

52:41

there is the possibility that can happen. Right.

52:43

And I think I would

52:45

guess

52:47

that he knew that when

52:49

he was there 778. Yeah.

52:51

I would assume. Well, that's what makes

52:53

it a valuable protest. Mhmm.

52:56

If you are not causing any

52:58

problems and you're just sitting quietly

53:00

in the free speech

53:01

zone, then you have not really protested a

53:03

fucking thing. Now have you? Yeah. And I think

53:05

he knew that. Exactly. And I think that

53:07

that was intentional. Exactly.

53:10

Also, from what I understand, it's

53:12

fascinating like he got

53:15

arrested for the the

53:18

vandalism of the selective service office.

53:20

Because the guy he did it with

53:22

was an

53:23

informant. Like, some

53:25

guy,

53:25

like, infiltrated their their

53:27

group. You know, they got snitched 778. I

53:29

just wanna say that the FBI has done

53:32

great things for America. And I

53:34

can't think of any one of their million miss

53:36

steps that has created a far worse world

53:38

than if they had never

53:39

existed. Yeah. Yeah. So I there's

53:41

a New York Times article about him 778. Mhmm.

53:44

And so, like, He

53:47

ended up spending almost two years

53:49

in the 778 for malicious destruction

53:51

of property as he puts it for spraying

53:53

hell no, we won't go on walls. 778

53:55

not before he spent some time hiding in New

53:57

York 778, he says he his family

54:00

feared you'd be killed in prison. Then he was

54:02

arrested in Texas for buying five hundred pounds

54:04

of peyote butt but beat that charge

54:06

out of

54:06

technicality. Hell yeah. So

54:08

that's a protest 8 now. 778

54:11

the way you do it. Yeah.

54:12

So if you look at the game is engaged it, some

54:14

hallucinogens, crimes, and also

54:16

some principled protesters.

54:18

Listen. Ken Casey spent two years

54:21

or so in Mexico. Before

54:23

being deported back to the United

54:25

8. III mean, I think it's I think

54:27

it's the way you do it. You gotta run. Listen.

54:29

Some of us get five hundred pounds of peyote

54:31

buttons. 778 us have beer

54:33

parties. We we all lose our houses

54:36

in the end. What are you gonna

54:37

do? So anyway, they're taking

54:39

away juries as evidenced by this

54:41

case. SO UNDERSTAND FOLKS,

54:43

YOU DON'T GET A JURY TRIAL HE WAS FACING SIX

54:45

MONTHS IN FEDERAL PRISON OF five thousand

54:47

DOLLAR FIND. BOLI,

54:50

THE 778 says, what? If

54:52

the offense is 778 twenty dollars, you've

54:55

got a jury trial, but the feds,

54:57

the judges say no, no, six months

54:59

decision and a five thousand

55:01

dollar fine. They have

55:03

to That's petty. You don't get

55:05

a trial. You start

55:08

778 get it? Oh, we take your house, but you

55:10

can't have a trial because you

55:12

can't have a jury trial because it's a it's

55:15

a city

55:15

ordinance. Oh, there are

55:18

like, limits for, like, what you can

55:20

have a jury trial for civil

55:22

cases. Sure. But

55:24

not in terms of, like, what the punishment

55:26

is

55:26

--

55:27

Right. -- per se. Right. He doesn't understand

55:29

civics in the legal system at all. And

55:31

what I find more fascinating

55:32

Well, I bet that never comes back to item in the ass.

55:35

Oops. And and that's that's

55:37

the thing. He also seems to have no curiosity

55:39

about it at all. Yeah. So the 778 to the

55:42

jury trial does not strictly apply

55:44

to offenses that are not deemed serious,

55:46

which the supreme court defined as

55:49

once they carry a possible penalty of over

55:52

six months incarceration. This

55:54

delineation was put into place by a

55:56

nineteen seventy decision, so this

55:58

shouldn't be news to Alex. You

56:00

know, if you're facing up to six months,

56:02

it's not past that

56:04

that line. Every time I hear anything

56:07

about what the Supreme Court said I think we're

56:09

all fucking insane for allowing them to

56:11

exist. But also 778 is insane. This

56:13

shouldn't be a surprise --

56:14

Well,

56:14

it shouldn't be 778. It shouldn't be a

56:16

surprise to Alex. Right. But but even

56:18

to you,

56:19

if anyone was shocked to me. Like, do

56:21

if you are charged with something like,

56:23

let's say, a first time DUI --

56:25

Sure. -- you don't get a jury

56:27

trial. You're not going you're going

56:29

in front of a judge. Right. Right. Here's

56:31

what I understand that. Because

56:33

I respect that. I respect 778. I just

56:35

mean that the idea that the

56:37

supreme court would say a serious

56:39

offense is six

56:41

months. As

56:43

as if that was not a completely arbitrary

56:46

and bullshit made up thing -- I'm guessing

56:48

they just said. -- I'm guessing that there

56:50

are also factors that

56:52

come into play 778, like, if the

56:55

penalty could be, you know,

56:57

three months in jail and a hundred thousand

56:59

dollars or something, that's then that's also

57:01

a serious case. Sure. I'm sure that there

57:03

are gray areas. But generally

57:05

speaking, if it's over six months' incarceration,

57:07

it's automatic A SERIOUS OFFENCE. Reporter:

57:09

778. SO, LIKE, BUT TO THINK ABOUT HOW

57:11

JAMMED UP THE 778 WOULD BE IF

57:13

YOU REQUIRED A JURY TRIAL

57:16

for every piss 778 crime

57:18

that someone gets charged with, it

57:20

would be impossible to function, and

57:22

everyone would be constantly being called

57:24

for

57:24

juries. Yeah. It would ALMOST POINT

57:26

OUT HOW SILLY IT IS TO ARREST

57:29

PEOPLE FOR THOSE 778 TACK BOLSHITS

57:31

IN FIRST

57:31

PLACE.

57:32

SOME OVER some yes. Some of them

57:34

maybe not. I think a DUI maybe

57:37

is The DUI is refusing somebody

57:39

for And I think a DUI maybe deserves

57:41

more than six months. They're

57:43

not a dick. Well, I don't

57:44

know. We'll see. I think that there is a

57:46

a an incredible difference

57:49

between a first time and a second time 778 tell you

57:51

what.

57:51

Agreed.

57:51

I think that a lot of people,

57:53

myself included. Have been at least eligible

57:56

for 778? Yeah. Yeah.

57:56

And 778 the same time, not recognize

57:59

the severity of it. Until

58:01

shit

58:01

got real. Exactly. I I mean, I

58:03

when I was 778 younger, when I was like

58:05

8, nineteen, I got you

58:08

know, I got arrested for a d like, it wasn't

58:10

a DUI in the end. Yeah.

58:13

But I did end up in some trouble for

58:15

778 to drive. Right. Right. Up

58:17

till that point, you know, it's there

58:20

was the dumb, 8, kid

58:22

thing of, like, if no

58:24

big deal. Yeah. I can handle it.

58:26

I can, you know -- Sure. -- and it

58:28

was not the arrest that ended up

58:31

making it clear to me that I couldn't. It

58:33

was what happened right before it when my car

58:35

skid off the road 778 I couldn't control

58:37

my car. Right. That made it very abundantly

58:39

clear to me And then the following

58:42

of

58:43

778, when the police showed up -- Yeah. -- was more like

58:45

a formality for me. Is that right? Yeah.

58:47

Alright. Here we go. I yeah. I listen,

58:49

I get it, guys. But my dad is going to be mad

58:51

when I get home. So you can arrest me or

58:53

whatever, but let

58:54

me thank you. We know disappointed.

58:55

Yeah. We know what the real problem here is.

58:57

And the 778 is I would never

59:00

have gotten a second one. And if I had,

59:02

like, six months in prison for the first

59:04

one, I think that would be excessive as hell. Right.

59:06

Right. I think for most people probably generally

59:08

with the first time. But Right. If you still

59:11

continue to then drink and

59:13

drive, I think that --

59:15

Right. -- that's that's when there should be, like,

59:18

pretty steeply rising judgment. I'm

59:20

just 778 and that a I that speaks

59:23

to my point of the arbitrariness of

59:25

six months. Look

59:27

at all the conversation we had and

59:29

then and but the idea that that

59:31

that some asshole, some asshole and

59:34

8 other assholes 778 to be like,

59:36

six months is a major one. 778

59:38

us having any

59:39

say? That's crazy.

59:40

I don't know.

59:41

We live in a crazy fucking place.

59:43

I I get what you're saying. 778 abstractly, I

59:46

can't agree with you, but functionally, I think

59:48

that maybe it works. Maybe

59:52

maybe I don't know. Well,

59:54

you look. We may always disagree on that.

59:57

I think think that there are massive

59:59

overhauls of the justice system that definitely

1:00:01

need to happen. And maybe that

1:00:04

one isn't super high up

1:00:06

on the list.

1:00:07

Maybe. I

1:00:08

mean, abolishing the supreme court is. That's

1:00:11

a large that's a large fish.

1:00:13

I'm not trying to I'm not trying to goat

1:00:15

you. Look. To goat you. This

1:00:18

report is a whole other

1:00:20

issue than whether or not you should have

1:00:22

a jury trial for something 8 would

1:00:24

be three months 778.

1:00:25

Okay. So while you put it that way.

1:00:27

Sure. Anyway,

1:00:31

I was really excited -- Yeah. -- for

1:00:34

Bruce to show up. Yeah. Because I

1:00:37

thought, you

1:00:39

know, these guys are clearly on different

1:00:41

pages. Yeah. You know, this is going

1:00:43

to be a very interesting conversation

1:00:46

of a 778 progressive

1:00:49

activist who has clear principles

1:00:52

surrounding a number of issues that Alex has a

1:00:54

big problem

1:00:54

with. Yeah. I'm thinking of Bill Airs. I'm

1:00:56

thinking of reducts. Reducts of

1:00:59

Bill Airs. Do that that whole, like, little 778

1:01:01

tacked back and forth where Bill Ayers is

1:01:02

unflappable. Yeah.

1:01:03

But the difference would be that Alex

1:01:05

went into the conversation with Bill Ayers

1:01:08

knowing it would be at the second

1:01:09

day. Yeah. Yeah. And this one

1:01:12

might be something that catches him off guard.

1:01:14

Mhmm. Unfortunately,

1:01:15

this does not come to pass. Before

1:01:18

we go to Robert and John and others

1:01:20

that are patiently holding and we do have

1:01:23

the 778 778 joining

1:01:26

us in the third

1:01:29

hour,

1:01:30

and you did not wanna miss Bob Chapman because

1:01:32

he made amazing predictions,

1:01:33

all of his last

1:01:34

three years on this show. And, unfortunately,

1:01:37

they've all come 778, all of all of

1:01:39

predictions. I don't even know if I can believe

1:01:41

these, but oh, well, it's amazing.

1:01:43

He's got a great track record. So we'll go

1:01:45

over with Bob Chapman. All 778

1:01:48

Liberal friend who was evicted

1:01:52

778 for protesting. The judge says, yeah,

1:01:54

you can't protest the president with

1:01:56

with folks 778 support him on a public 778. Brett

1:02:00

Burnsey was real paranoid when we talked

1:02:02

to him yesterday and

1:02:03

well, let's just talk radio. Well, I'm

1:02:05

not gonna get, you know, ambushed on the show.

1:02:08

No,

1:02:08

sir. You're not. Go to the website to look at

1:02:10

him. You know, we've been calling and calling

1:02:12

his phone's busy. You know, he may have

1:02:15

the wrong time now and that happens sometimes

1:02:18

when a guest doesn't show

1:02:19

up, which is quite rare for the show.

1:02:21

I get the sense that he probably looked into --

1:02:23

Yeah. -- looks little bit and was like, had

1:02:25

no way. No

1:02:27

way. I okay. This is

1:02:29

778 Radio. And what he said

1:02:31

to assuage my fear was

1:02:33

go look at my at his

1:02:34

website. I go to prison planet dot com.

1:02:36

Fuck this man. I would

1:02:38

assume that that was a

1:02:40

a radio

1:02:43

guest ghostie. Yep.

1:02:46

Because phone's busy. You can't

1:02:48

imagine if you're him that this

1:02:50

is going to Even like I

1:02:52

like I said, even if you agree on

1:02:54

the bottom line issue -- Yeah. -- this is

1:02:56

not,

1:02:56

like, serving your 778. Yeah.

1:03:01

This is not something where there's going to be common

1:03:03

cause found that that's meaningful. This

1:03:05

isn't an ally of

1:03:06

yours. The only

1:03:06

way to win is not to play. Yeah. Yeah.

1:03:08

And I I find that a little

1:03:10

bit disappointing for my entertainment 778.

1:03:13

Yeah. But it's also kind of like,

1:03:15

if you assume which mean,

1:03:17

maybe it's a big assumption because I haven't listened to

1:03:19

the next day's shows or

1:03:20

anything. Sure. Who knows? Maybe shows up on the

1:03:22

next day? Maybe his was a time

1:03:24

zone issue.

1:03:25

Yeah. But you you assume that

1:03:27

he learned a little bit more and was

1:03:29

like, I don't want anything to do with this. That is

1:03:31

the opposite of

1:03:32

disappointing. Yeah. That is, like, guess.

1:03:34

No. That's

1:03:34

good on you. That is good 778. I was I

1:03:36

was just thinking that reinforces my

1:03:39

like of this man. I I appreciate

1:03:41

if he's if he's got that under his belt

1:03:43

778. Damn. This guy's got it. At the

1:03:45

same time, his history does seem

1:03:47

to have a lot of willingness to

1:03:49

be in places of confrontation. So

1:03:53

Yep. You know, painful confrontation. That's

1:03:55

a good point. Yeah. 778 that a really

1:03:57

good point? This would be very trivial

1:03:59

and pointless. 778. Wow, man. This

1:04:01

guy's got it. So anyway, Bob Chapman's

1:04:03

gonna be coming up. Sure. Bob Chapman,

1:04:06

of

1:04:06

course, for our folks who have not listened

1:04:08

to a lot of these. 778 news really

1:04:10

her

1:04:10

778 to do that a while. Yeah. He

1:04:13

is someone who is a weekly guest

1:04:15

of Alex's in the two thousand eight, two thousand

1:04:17

nine time frame. He is a guy

1:04:19

who is a gold

1:04:22

salesman. He is shameful

1:04:26

and shameless, gold promoter. He

1:04:29

works day profit. He works with

1:04:31

Alex's main sponsor,

1:04:33

the Midas Resources, who

1:04:35

sell gold, Bob promotes the gold

1:04:37

and tells people they should go to Midas Resources.

1:04:40

He is also a flagrant racist

1:04:42

-- Sure. -- and made his

1:04:45

778 off apartheid gold.

1:04:47

Hey. What what who you Living

1:04:50

I I can't even joke about not excuse

1:04:52

lives in anesthesia for a while. Yeah. That

1:04:54

guy could go fucking He has a

1:04:57

778, right, called the 778 Forecaster

1:04:59

-- Sure. -- that is supposed to be about

1:05:02

finances and 778. Right? It fears into

1:05:05

pretty racist territory from time

1:05:07

to

1:05:07

time. I thought an archive of that and it is

1:05:09

grim. The

1:05:10

history of money is pretty racist. This

1:05:12

is 778 thing. Oh, okay. So,

1:05:14

anyway, Bob is coming up. Uh-huh. And

1:05:17

before we get to that, we get another call.

1:05:19

This is interesting because this guy is a big old sovereign

1:05:22

citizen. Sure. And Alex pushes

1:05:24

back on

1:05:24

him. Okay? But not for the reason you'd think.

1:05:27

There are no citizens in 778. No

1:05:29

Texas citizen. No 778 citizen.

1:05:31

They're either one of the three categories that just

1:05:34

question. Alright. Well, let me just

1:05:36

tell you this. You go declare yourself

1:05:38

with a sheriff and everybody a citizen

1:05:40

of your county

1:05:41

8. Let let me finish. They're gonna take you to

1:05:43

jail still. They're gonna charge you in their same system.

1:05:46

Okay. Here's the thing. You

1:05:48

have to go through a three step process. So I

1:05:50

been doing this for ten years, and I've heard

1:05:52

all this, and I've watched it. And let me tell you

1:05:54

something. It

1:05:55

does. Not work. It's

1:05:57

it's about to work. There's a gentleman name of

1:05:59

John Jennings 778 in the process in Florida

1:06:01

778 doing it is already won the case,

1:06:04

not an at lock card, not a case lock

1:06:06

778, in a state card. An in law

1:06:08

778 where you're dealing with laws

1:06:11

8 by state legislators not by

1:06:13

a judge presiding at the bench.

1:06:15

You see a difference right now. You want No.

1:06:18

You want Sir, appreciate your call. You

1:06:20

you you you know what I'll do? Do you? I'll

1:06:22

do some shows on the Federal Reserve. I'll do some

1:06:24

shows on the fourteenth amendment. I'll do some

1:06:26

shows on common law and and the and

1:06:28

the incorporation of the 8 and the

1:06:30

incorporation of the 778 of Columbia. But

1:06:33

by leave me, and I'm not mad at your caller. It's

1:06:35

it's good points you're making. 778 eight

1:06:37

percent of people listening do not even know what

1:06:39

you were talking about. And we

1:06:41

can't just sit here on one call and go over

1:06:43

this. 778, you know,

1:06:45

it gets into 778 law, maritime

1:06:48

jurisdiction, which is the Patriot which

1:06:51

is what they're

1:06:51

saying. Now trying to replace

1:06:54

the constitution, the organic law,

1:06:56

the stuff that comes

1:06:57

out. Sorry. 778? Accardo

1:06:58

in twelve fourteen and

1:06:59

the magnifying eye, you know,

1:07:02

thousands of years ago, three thousand years ago

1:07:05

with Moses and the 778 Commandments. That's

1:07:07

why they're trying to remove the

1:07:09

foundation of 778 law

1:07:12

that came out of

1:07:13

Israel. They're trying to remove

1:07:15

that now and put in Roman civil

1:07:17

law. I'm sorry. 778?

1:07:20

Yeah. What? Yeah. Don't

1:07:22

you know that? What? Yeah.

1:07:25

778? Yeah. What? Yeah.

1:07:28

Dan. Yeah. Dan. 778?

1:07:31

It's clear. They're

1:07:35

trying to get rid of the 778,

1:07:37

which has been passed by Ricardo, but I

1:07:39

way of the 778 command --

1:07:40

No. -- to come out cyanide. Where's

1:07:42

the where's Hamiravi in of that. He's

1:07:44

not in the mix. He's he's

1:07:46

on the team of the Roman bases

1:07:49

all over

1:07:50

again. Yeah. So they're trying to replace this

1:07:52

with Roman -- Sure. -- law.

1:07:54

Roman civil law.

1:07:55

Yep. I

1:07:58

mean, it's tough. Does anyone

1:08:00

have a law degree in Roman civil law?

1:08:02

I

1:08:02

can tell you Alex doesn't. I don't think

1:08:04

he does. So

1:08:06

yeah. The issue here

1:08:09

is that Alex agrees.

1:08:11

Yes. That is a problem. With

1:08:13

these sovereign citizen types and this

1:08:16

guy. And he might might even believe in stuff

1:08:18

that is outside of that

1:08:21

778 the that that whole notion

1:08:24

of, like, the divine

1:08:27

backing of the constitution -- That kind

1:08:29

of --

1:08:29

Yeah. -- that that area of I

1:08:33

hesitate call scholarship, but

1:08:36

778 area of people writing things.

1:08:38

That area of things that can be read

1:08:40

with ice. Yeah.

1:08:42

Yeah. So Alex is fine with that.

1:08:44

His problem is, like, dude, this doesn't work.

1:08:46

Yeah. It does appear that that is the issue.

1:08:49

Not that it's wrong.

1:08:50

Yeah. That 778 impractical. Yeah. Yeah.

1:08:52

It's not that

1:08:53

it's made up fantasy land. It's this

1:08:55

stuff is real and you're totally

1:08:57

right.

1:08:57

But the

1:08:58

people in control have guns and

1:09:00

they won't let you be a

1:09:02

free person on the land. Right. Right.

1:09:05

I mean, they do see the issue there. Right?

1:09:07

Like, the combination of those two things

1:09:09

means that it doesn't really matter

1:09:12

if they're right or not.

1:09:15

778 does seem to indicate that

1:09:17

there is not power in being right. That's

1:09:19

a good point. Yeah. Yeah.

1:09:23

That was that was a little bit upsetting.

1:09:26

I mean, we know that Alex is basically --

1:09:28

Yeah. -- quite a sovereign citizen

1:09:31

adjacent -- Mhmm. -- or 778

1:09:33

in it. But 778

1:09:36

sucks to have this guy who's who's somebody

1:09:39

who You know, there's a there's a decent chance you

1:09:41

could push back on some points that he's making. But instead

1:09:44

778 you,

1:09:44

like, it just doesn't work. It doesn't work. You're

1:09:46

totally right. Okay. Guess what? You're screwed.

1:09:48

You know what? That raises a question.

1:09:51

Is it possible to hold

1:09:53

within your mind? The idea

1:09:55

of truth being everything

1:09:58

that everyone does all day every

1:10:00

day is one hundred percent unconstitutional

1:10:02

and 778 the same time live within

1:10:05

that society. Without harm

1:10:07

or trouble? Or is

1:10:09

it gotta be one or the other? I think it's one

1:10:11

or the other, and that's why Alex

1:10:14

has lived so long because his beliefs

1:10:16

are nonsensical and he doesn't really believe

1:10:18

them. Right. At least most of

1:10:20

them. Right. And that's that's why he can

1:10:22

not raise an army. Against -- He's

1:10:24

a k walker.

1:10:25

-- he can have all

1:10:28

this shit that he talks about and not raise

1:10:30

an army against the courts -- Right. -- or

1:10:32

whatever. Or

1:10:32

wind up Bill Coopering himself. Yeah.

1:10:35

Yep.

1:10:35

Yep. And make a lot of money. Nah.

1:10:37

So anyway, speaking of money, Bob Chapman shows

1:10:40

up for

1:10:40

sure. He has some financial predictions 778

1:10:43

gonna go great. Bob, what

1:10:45

is the new world order? What are they doing

1:10:47

financially? What do you see happening in

1:10:49

the near term and the long

1:10:50

term? Well, let's will continue down

1:10:53

another forty percent versus the

1:10:56

dollar index as well as the euro

1:10:58

whether the Europeans like it or not.

1:11:00

And 778 been overpriced for a long, long

1:11:03

time. The price of

1:11:05

gold this year will easily go over to

1:11:07

five dollars five twelve dollars an ounce,

1:11:09

could very grow go to six eighty or

1:11:11

eight forty for that matter depending upon

1:11:14

what happens.

1:11:15

Bob is very wrong. Gold

1:11:17

peaked at about four fifty six

1:11:19

an ounce in early December 778 thousand

1:11:22

four far short of his low

1:11:24

end prediction. Yeah. It's a fair amount

1:11:26

of the year under four hundred even.

1:11:28

Bob's close to right about the dollar though,

1:11:31

but his numbers are a bit off. In

1:11:33

778, he's correct though that the dollar did drop in

1:11:35

two thousand four, but that was already part of

1:11:37

a trend that that had been going on for, like, the

1:11:39

past year. So it's hard to give him a lot of credit

1:11:42

for that. Yeah. But he's not far off 778

1:11:44

for the he's flagrantly wrong

1:11:46

about gold -- Yeah. -- which

1:11:48

makes sense. He's a gold

1:11:51

sales of him. I mean, I don't understand

1:11:53

why financial media of

1:11:55

this type even exists because it

1:11:58

can't be anything other than self motivated

1:12:01

or self involved

1:12:02

You know? Yeah. You'd have to

1:12:04

have people who No.

1:12:09

You 778 do it. Yeah. You literally can

1:12:11

there's no possible way to altruistically

1:12:14

predict that things will get 778.

1:12:17

Well, you know, or like the okay.

1:12:19

I am predicting that the price of the dollar

1:12:21

will go

1:12:22

up. And I'm doing that not because

1:12:24

I have any involvement at all, but because

1:12:26

I want you to get more money

1:12:29

out of it. Here's what it doesn't even make sense. You'd

1:12:31

need monks. You'd You would need monks?

1:12:33

Yeah. You would need people who

1:12:36

study the financial

1:12:38

stuff and all that -- Mhmm. --

1:12:40

and have sworn off

1:12:43

any kind of material

1:12:44

possessions. They have their lungs

1:12:47

cut out. Food is paid for or

1:12:48

whatever they're they're taken care of, but

1:12:50

not by anything that could be

1:12:52

affected by the financial

1:12:54

system. Cannot be corrupted, by

1:12:56

scandal or anything along those lines.

1:12:58

Yes. I think that that's impossible to attain.

1:13:01

Problem. But the next best thing, I think,

1:13:03

would be 778 take financial advice from someone

1:13:05

who sells gold. Yep. Don't take Bitcoin

1:13:08

advice from someone who sells bitcoin. 778

1:13:10

booth. Just go

1:13:12

ahead. Don't get into the stock market. It 778 people

1:13:14

from the stock market say it's a good idea. Yeah.

1:13:16

Be wary of advice from people who

1:13:18

are suspiciously biased.

1:13:22

If someone tells you 778 to

1:13:24

do with your money because it will make

1:13:26

their lives better.

1:13:28

Just stop for a second and think. Yeah. Maybe it's

1:13:30

Maybe they're lying about it helping you a lot. Yeah.

1:13:32

Maybe you should try and help somebody else's

1:13:34

life. Yeah. I don't know. So we got one last

1:13:36

clip here, and it's

1:13:37

Bob making more bad predictions.

1:13:39

The first thing I've got to tell people is, please,

1:13:42

get out of debt. I know you have to have a house, get

1:13:44

the tax write off, but everything else clear

1:13:46

it out, and then you move 778 gold coins

1:13:48

and once you've done 778, you move into gold shares.

1:13:51

And at the end of the of the road

1:13:53

here, we're up a gold and silver going to,

1:13:55

you may not want want to sell what

1:13:57

you have in exchange for

1:13:59

fiat currency?

1:14:03

When gold. I've been

1:14:05

buying gold for three years and it's all increasing

1:14:08

value, whether I bought it at two

1:14:10

fifty or three fifty. 778 and

1:14:13

people aren't calling me saying, you 778 sell

1:14:15

that gold? And, no, I don't.

1:14:18

We've

1:14:18

got long way to go. I mean, this

1:14:20

is we have finish phase one or three

1:14:22

phases. Gold is going over

1:14:24

three thousand dollars an ounce, where silver gold

1:14:26

is hard to say, but it could easily go

1:14:28

to back back to a high end in the 778, fifty

1:14:31

dollar

1:14:31

area, perhaps even to a hundred

1:14:33

because they're

1:14:34

just visiting out there. Now you're saying five

1:14:36

hundred by the end of the year? Easily.

1:14:38

And then where is this

1:14:40

three thousand mark?

1:14:42

That's probably an 00506.

1:14:47

Bold.

1:14:48

So okay. So in the next

1:14:50

twelve months -- Mhmm. -- it will increase by

1:14:52

about ten to twenty five percent.

1:14:55

And then in the next twelve months, it will increase

1:14:57

by eight thousand percent. It's

1:15:00

it's ambitious.

1:15:01

So gold did continue to go up a bit, but

1:15:03

these numbers are insane. Gold

1:15:06

peaked at about seven twenty in two

1:15:08

thousand six before dropping back to five

1:15:10

fifty and then bouncing back at end

1:15:12

of the year ending up around

1:15:14

six thirty five. These numbers

1:15:17

that Bob is saying are outrageous and

1:15:19

it's hard to imagine them being predicted by someone

1:15:22

who wasn't a goal salesman pretending to be a forecast.

1:15:24

Yeah. This is I

1:15:28

I don't know how you could look at this and think

1:15:31

this is

1:15:31

responsible. I I mean III

1:15:34

the only thing that you could even try and say

1:15:36

778, like, oh, you get it. They they're joking.

1:15:38

They're it's an entertainment show. That's it. That's

1:15:41

as good as it gets because beyond 778, if you take

1:15:43

him seriously, he's stealing from

1:15:45

you. He's a thief. He's committing fraud.

1:15:47

Well, here's here's the interesting wrinkle.

1:15:49

778 this point. So when we've heard Bob

1:15:52

in two thousand eight, two thousand and nine,

1:15:54

it's very regularly he

1:15:56

sets it up and then they knock it down Right.

1:15:58

-- sales pitch for Midas Resources. Or

1:16:01

he's like, you can get my newsletter,

1:16:03

my forecaster newsletter and

1:16:06

call Minus Resources, they'll give you a free

1:16:08

piece of silver along with your first issue. Right.

1:16:10

Right. Right. 778 isn't the case. In

1:16:13

two thousand three. I don't know if

1:16:15

he is intimately related with Midas

1:16:17

Resources and Ted Anderson at this point,

1:16:19

but he is not throwing

1:16:22

it to a Midas plug or

1:16:25

linking his newsletter

1:16:26

with Midas. Okay. So there is

1:16:28

still, like, very aligned

1:16:31

interests

1:16:31

-- Mhmm. -- of Alex being syndicated

1:16:34

by a gold salesman and Bob

1:16:36

making comical predictions about

1:16:38

gold. Yeah. They're still that,

1:16:40

but it's not as overt. Yeah.

1:16:42

It's not maybe

1:16:45

this is still in the, like, period

1:16:47

where they're feeling it out, the the 778.

1:16:50

Yeah. I mean, it could be like a it could

1:16:52

be like a wire thing, you know. You don't want the

1:16:54

you don't want the the kids who

1:16:56

get the drugs. They're not the kids who

1:16:58

give the drugs. You know, they're not the

1:17:00

kids who take the money. Every everybody's got

1:17:02

separate job

1:17:03

Right. Right. The the you have

1:17:06

the drugs under a rock. Right. Right.

1:17:08

The runners and the yeah. Yeah. But

1:17:10

it all gets sort of blown

1:17:12

up that game by two thousand

1:17:14

eight, two thousand nine, because it is the same kid

1:17:17

-- Yeah. --

1:17:17

delivering the drugs. They were like, oh,

1:17:19

nobody's nobody's company. No. Cares.

1:17:22

I don't know. I think that there is a decent

1:17:24

chance that they're not as intimately involved

1:17:27

as as like clear partnership at

1:17:30

this point.

1:17:30

Oh, no. Maybe in the next year, it's like Ted

1:17:33

Ted is

1:17:34

like, oh, hell

1:17:34

yeah. Get in here. You're on our team. Yeah. This

1:17:36

gonna make 778 total star predictions.

1:17:39

One fucking hundred percent You're a genius.

1:17:41

Yeah. One

1:17:41

hundred 778. I would I would see him as

1:17:43

like a business opportunity if I were to. Yeah.

1:17:45

That makes sense. Yeah. And so I'm interested

1:17:48

in, you know, these things that are happening in two

1:17:50

thousand three 778 thousand four

1:17:52

now. Mhmm. I I'm interested in

1:17:54

this as another thread to watch,

1:17:57

because a number of the people that

1:17:59

we know from our time and if wars

1:18:01

are 778, you know,

1:18:03

like 778 hadn't been around in two thousand three.

1:18:05

Mhmm. So now we can see how he

1:18:07

grows as a figure, getting to the

1:18:09

point where he's a weekly guest. Right.

1:18:12

See where that happens along the line. Mhmm.

1:18:14

There's still other figures who are, like,

1:18:16

major characters who are, like, where are

1:18:18

they? Like, Steve Pajenick, hasn't shown

1:18:20

up. I 778 find out where he shows up

1:18:23

and he hit this period. I know. What kind of swings

1:18:25

does he give

1:18:25

him? I we 778 have been lost tonight.

1:18:28

778 if he starts 778, I because

1:18:30

here's because here's what you would expect.

1:18:32

Right? If this were normal thing, he starts

1:18:34

out with some light cuts. No.

1:18:36

You know, he starts out and then works his way

1:18:38

up. No. I if it's Steve, I

1:18:40

have to hope that he starts out higher

1:18:43

up than anything we've even thought

1:18:45

of. He's gonna in. He's, like, sixteen

1:18:47

days from now. There's gonna be a counter

1:18:49

cool instill a little

1:18:50

bit, 778, and we're gonna put to 778 trump

1:18:52

and off.

1:18:53

It's got to be it's gotta be

1:18:55

something that fucking incredible.

1:18:57

What if he does?

1:18:58

What if he'd be amazing? 778 be amazing.

1:19:00

I want Of

1:19:01

of all the of all things that would prove

1:19:03

the simulation -- Yeah. -- is real. Whatever

1:19:05

it is, I want to

1:19:07

find that. I want to find his episodes.

1:19:10

Yeah. And it's really hard. There's no, like,

1:19:12

listing anywhere of, like,

1:19:14

guests and when they were on and

1:19:16

778. So it's really just turn

1:19:19

it on see if he's see if he's there.

1:19:21

And I guarantee you when

1:19:24

he finally shows up. When I 778 on

1:19:26

an episode and was like, 778, god. State

1:19:29

778 on today, I'm going to run

1:19:31

through a wall. It's like it's

1:19:33

going to be real

1:19:36

built up. Yeah. Anyway, We

1:19:38

come to the end of this. We're closer -- Yes.

1:19:40

-- to where we need to be for the

1:19:42

lives. And

1:19:42

we're so close to Yeah. I'm

1:19:44

very excited we do have some mentions of Howard

1:19:46

Dean -- Mhmm. -- which is, you know, the ball

1:19:49

is rolling. Yep. And that's

1:19:51

called foreshadowing. Yeah. That He's a

1:19:53

snake. 8 him.

1:19:56

So we will get we will we will make

1:19:58

our progress through there. And we will discuss

1:20:01

the Iowa

1:20:01

primary. The caucus. So

1:20:04

funny. It's so funny to go back to

1:20:06

this time period 778 a bunch of idiots

1:20:09

everybody in two thousand three should shut up

1:20:11

and stop.

1:20:12

If they only knew. Yeah. But if they

1:20:14

only knew be a podcast twenty

1:20:16

years from now 778 how everyone in twenty

1:20:19

twenty three should shut

1:20:20

up. You know? I know and I agree

1:20:22

with that show. So let's shut

1:20:24

up. Well, until next time.

1:20:26

Oh. Next week.

1:20:29

And until that time, we have a website.

1:20:31

Indeed,

1:20:31

we do. It's 778 right dot com. Yeah. We'll also

1:20:34

put up a link to the fundraiser in

1:20:36

the description of this episode. So

1:20:38

if you'd like to chip

1:20:39

in, that would be wonderful. 778 we're also

1:20:41

on Twitter. We

1:20:42

are on Twitter. We are on Twitter to acknowledge and underscore fight. Yep.

1:20:44

Over the back. 778 until then, I'm NIO. I'm

1:20:46

Leo. I'm DZX Cork. I

1:20:48

look. I know it's getting annoying, but this is the best

1:20:50

drop in the

1:20:51

world. Oh, you know what? And

1:20:53

now here comes with

1:20:54

the sex robots.

1:20:55

Andy and Kansas here on the earth. Thanks for holding.

1:20:59

Hello, Alex. I'm my first time caller. I'm a

1:21:01

huge fan. I love your work. I love you.

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