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love you. Hey, everybody. Welcome back
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to Now, let's try to bed. I'm Jordan.
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Work up a 778. It's like sit around. Where should we put the
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altar of Celine and talk a little bit about Alex
1:07
Jones.
1:07
Indeed. We are Dan. Dan?
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Yeah. Quick question for you. What's up? What's your
1:13
bright spot Why don't you go
1:15
first? Okay. I will go first. My bright
1:17
spot, Dan, is there is a new
1:19
season of 778.
1:21
From Australia. What? The first
1:23
taskmaster Australia season is
1:25
out. If I had to guess.
1:28
Yep. It's
1:28
great. It's pretty good. 778 pretty
1:30
great. I will tell you this. We've
1:32
discussed the the
1:34
so far, I believe there's three now versions
1:36
of 778 master
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-- There's New Zealand. -- New Zealand
1:39
and Australia. Mhmm. New
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Zealand, we discussed the New Zealand Alex
1:44
position. Fantastic. Incredible.
1:46
The New Zealand 8 Davis position.
1:48
Terrible. Absolute garbage. 778
1:51
it's a different vibe. I understand.
1:54
I I disagree in as much as I think
1:56
that he
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serves his role. 778, yeah, it's very much different
2:00
than -- Where's that role? Yeah. 778? Craig
2:04
Davey's position? Fantastic. Alex
2:06
our position? Garbage.
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Oh. Absolutely. It's it's a complete
2:09
inversion of the form.
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This is kind of weird. This is a
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that you mash up. I I think so.
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I'm telling you. I mean, there what there is
2:18
a 778, you know. But III think
2:20
that the the the Alex Horn on
2:22
this one is is missing the mark --
2:24
Mhmm. -- just by by you of
2:27
few different little little foibles.
2:29
He seems he seems less less
2:31
completely reserved together. Like
2:33
778 of it is you have to be completely deadpan.
2:36
Yeah. You know, he seems like he's he's
2:38
smiling. You know, it's it's a little bit difficult to
2:40
pull off.
2:41
Yeah. Yeah. There is a there's a line.
2:43
I would say the Alex position is far harder.
2:45
Yeah. Of of the two jobs,
2:47
the one where the guy shows up and talks all
2:50
the time. And there's a father's ass. Yeah.
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Yeah. The one where the guy does all
2:54
the work, 778 one is the harder
2:55
job. Yeah. And we have no familiarity
2:58
with those kinds of data. But you also have
3:00
to be, like like you're saying, like, you
3:02
have to you have to walk that line
3:04
of, like, being funny and getting
3:06
the joke, but also -- Yeah. --
3:09
like being all
3:09
business.
3:10
You have to be a day fully in news or
3:12
you have to be a perfect straight man. Yeah.
3:14
Well,
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I I mean, I have a I have a growing suspicion
3:17
that Australia is just better at media.
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It's 778 I mean, we'll
3:21
see. I mean, maybe not better
3:23
than the UK in terms of shows
3:25
that originate from the
3:26
UK, but I mean, in terms of survivor,
3:28
they've -- Yeah. -- they have killed the game.
3:30
Do you think it's because the woke mob hasn't
3:33
gotten to Australia 778? Damn, man.
3:35
The wolves sat out. Thank
3:38
god you 778
3:39
it. Yeah. Finally. You know, it's He
3:41
freely. It's nice to be able talk. You know, now
3:44
that Alex's podcast is off the
3:45
air, we don't need to worry about being made fun of. Survivor.
3:48
Go won't go broke. No.
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It's your 778, Bob. don't think that's the case. I just
3:53
think I I don't know. I don't know exactly
3:56
what it is. They're trying different things
3:58
maybe. I don't know. I gotta watch this taskmaster 778.
4:00
I'll let you know. The Australian challenge was pretty
4:02
good. I'm not sure. I think the Australians know
4:04
how to make a good reality TV
4:06
show. Mhmm. And that may be because Australia
4:08
is only about three and a half miles away from the
4:10
sun. Mhmm. think that could be it. That could
4:12
be real hot. I mean, there are theories that
4:14
abound. Yeah. We'll
4:17
find out one day. My
4:19
bright spot, Jordan, is we
4:22
are in this little bit of a interstitial
4:24
period of things. Yes. In
4:27
as much as we have our live shows coming up.
4:29
Correct. And also just finished
4:31
sending out all the buttons and everything. So we're
4:33
in that that little in between place.
4:36
Yeah. And so I decided what
4:39
we're gonna do is I'm going
4:41
to close the fundraiser
4:43
that we had for the 778. Okay. Good. At
4:46
the end of the week. So if everybody would
4:48
like to join in and throw
4:50
some support to the transgender law
4:53
center that we have been
4:55
raising the funds for with the
4:57
buttons. I realize I haven't mentioned that in
4:59
quite a while.
4:59
Yeah. It hasn't been quite a while. Maybe things
5:01
People have forgotten maybe those donations
5:04
have completely dried up and what have
5:06
you. But if people would like
5:08
to chip in for that, that would be
5:11
that would be wonderful. Yep. It's a great idea.
5:13
And also, yes. We had
5:15
a second person who got a wonka
5:17
button.
5:18
Oh, we got a second wonka button.
5:20
So this is 778 -- Uh-huh.
5:22
-- out there. Got the got the the
5:24
second bright spot
5:25
bar. Right. Okay. And so a donation
5:28
has been made to the the the
5:30
charity of their choice, which is gender
5:33
justice --
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Excellent. -- so spectacular. Thank you
5:35
for for that. And also,
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you're 778 down. Under just
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778 reached out,
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yes, a while ago. Here's
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here's what happened. As is our 778, it
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went 778 the email that you
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778, and you forwarded it to
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me.
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Oh, okay. I was gonna say, I can't I can't believe
5:53
that I would have --
5:54
No. -- skipped that one. You forwarded it to
5:56
me. Alright. And I
5:59
saw it. It was like, Look at that. I'd
6:02
forgot that I need to do 778. Right.
6:06
The protocols didn't kick in. It
6:08
seemed like an announcement less than
6:10
A0I need to do something about
6:12
this. Right. And so completely slipped 778 my mind.
6:15
Right. Right. Until I was going through all
6:17
of the buttons -- Mhmm. -- to finish
6:19
all that up.
6:20
And I
6:20
found that the email was also in there,
6:23
but it took forever to get to the point where I got to
6:25
that because of the fucking Naturally,
6:28
thousands of emails. We
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I mean, I would say something
6:35
in the neighborhood of fifteen
6:37
to seventeen thousand buttons sent
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out to people. Yeah. Countries
6:42
-- Yeah. -- all over every continent
6:44
except Antarctica --
6:45
Yep. -- when you say I don't know if we would be able
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to get any buttons down there.
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We would have to send, like, a a person
6:52
to do that. That's an emissary requirement.
6:54
Here's what I'll say. Because they live underground. 778 button
6:57
requests are done. And we'd have to
6:59
escape the Nazis.
7:00
True. Yeah. Unless they are
7:02
reformed and
7:04
778 could be. No. Oh, okay. No. Not not
7:06
gonna have it. Okay. But button
7:08
request to close. Right. However -- Yes.
7:10
-- if you are an Antarctica, I will make
7:12
an exception. I will
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save you a
7:15
778. Only if you are an 778
7:17
I talked Ed, this is truly because it'd be really
7:19
fucking cool 778
7:20
if there was some random person in Australia.
7:22
Oh, they got it. Yeah.
7:23
Because we need to hit all continents.
7:25
Yeah. 778. that
7:27
Antarctica is a continent? Antarctica is a continent.
7:29
Yes. What a relief? Yeah. So
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anyway, congratulations, Kristen.
7:33
Congratulations, Kristen.
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I don't think the other wonka button is ever
7:37
going to be
7:38
we'll see. And I think
7:40
you've got lost to the mail heading to Scotland.
7:42
Oh, man. I know it was international. don't
7:44
know if it was going to Scotland. Well, there's still
7:47
time. There's still time. I don't think
7:49
there is because I sent it months ago.
7:50
Alright. Well, that is an issue. Yep. That one's
7:52
a Maybe they just don't know that they got
7:54
the special button because it's been so long since
7:56
we've since they
7:58
figure 778, I mean, I don't even remember what it
8:00
looks like. It has it's got a treasure chest
8:02
up. 778? Yeah. Yeah. So that's a bright spot. Right.
8:04
Right. Right.
8:05
Yeah. Yeah. So maybe somebody 778 it and was like,
8:07
what a great button and had no idea
8:09
that that was one of the golden 778? That
8:11
could be. And calling them the golden button
8:13
was big
8:14
mistake, because one of the regular buttons
8:16
was bright yellow. That is that that was AY0CS
8:18
communication. Yeah. So the warrantee reference
8:20
was not a literal reference, which is
8:23
a unfortunate
8:23
apart. Anyway,
8:24
we have an episode to go over today, Jordan. Indeed.
8:26
And I I this is in
8:28
spirit of that interstitial period. Mhmm.
8:31
We have dealt with in the bright 778, the button
8:33
Sure. Now we come to the episode where
8:35
we discuss the
8:37
march up to the live shows. So
8:41
I realized that I
8:43
had made a number of jokes 778
8:46
weren't jokes 778 how one of our live
8:48
shows I want to be about the Howard Dean
8:50
Scream.
8:50
It was very much not a joke. Yes. And
8:52
that seemed very doable
8:55
because we had a bit of time before the
8:57
live show, and it was like, hey, that
8:59
happened in January. That was in
9:01
the early times of the primary.
9:04
Running up on it. Mhmm. What I
9:06
didn't realize was from the point we
9:08
were at -- Mhmm. -- to when that happens,
9:10
was twenty something days
9:13
in two thousand three time. Okay. Which
9:15
is a lot to get through in
9:17
terms of our pace. Mhmm. And I
9:19
was
9:19
like, that's gonna be fucking impossible.
9:21
Yeah. What's that? Sixty hours? Eighty
9:24
hours? Yep. Yep. Ninety.
9:26
That's a big hours. Yeah. Well, no.
9:28
It's not thirty days. But you get the point. It's
9:30
a lot. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot. 778 even
9:33
so even even if, like, listening
9:35
to all of it and going through it, was a
9:37
ton 778 it on
9:39
the show. We didn't have enough episodes
9:42
to get through -- Right. --
9:44
by the time we have the live goes. So
9:46
that was a challenge. Right. And I realized maybe
9:48
the dream was dead.
9:50
It wasn't. Oh,
9:51
I was gonna say, did the episode The dream
9:53
was just
9:53
asleep. Man, to wake up the dream. Yeah.
9:56
Okay. The dream got woke and went broke.
9:58
Oh, boy. don't how
10:00
many more how many more rhymes do we get?
10:02
So here's here's the situation. I started
10:05
going through the two thousand three,
10:07
of course. I'm going through it. And
10:09
we got a little bit lucky because
10:12
part of the time between where we were in
10:14
December and where the scream
10:16
happens 778 January Christmas break and
10:18
New Year's. And New Year's 778. Right. And so
10:21
there were a number of episodes that Alex
10:23
just wasn't there. Don't eat them. Some Reriding
10:25
them off. And what have you? Right. Then
10:28
you also run into a situation where
10:31
he's not trying. Well, to the end of
10:33
the year. Hey.
10:34
It's the beginning of the year. Hey. We've all had
10:36
we've all been there. We've all been
10:38
there.
10:40
778 nothing.
10:41
I will
10:42
778 back to work. Is going on.
10:44
In earnest on January fourth
10:46
or fifth at best. You're being very
10:48
generous. Yeah. So we are
10:50
gonna be able to sort of smash
10:53
forward a little bit. Mhmm. And actually,
10:55
today's episode will be mostly about January
10:57
8. Which is where we jump back
11:00
into anything that I felt
11:02
meant anything. So
11:05
Okay. You can imagine there was a lot of
11:07
listening to
11:09
Yeah.
11:09
How many? That's two full weeks of shows that
11:11
you skipped over. Almost three.
11:14
I didn't skip over that. Oh, wow. I'm allowing
11:16
YouTube. 778. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Apologies. Apologies. Apologies.
11:19
III mean, I mean, in your your
11:21
-- Pricing. -- 778. Just
11:23
nothing. And I think 778
11:26
should be said. I think a large part of
11:28
why these episodes were
11:30
a little bit is there
11:32
were much less calls. Yeah.
11:35
And I don't think that his calls are good
11:37
in two thousand three, but I do think
11:39
there's something in how they
11:41
changed the presentation of the show. Mhmm.
11:43
Like, it breaks up his clear
11:45
non coverage of stories. Yeah. His
11:48
rants are monotonous and boring.
11:50
And so the calls kind of give a
11:52
sidetrack from that. Mhmm. And lot
11:54
of the guests that he has back in two thousand
11:56
three 778 very very interesting either. Right.
11:58
And so having a balance
12:00
of, you know, 778 who
12:03
maybe is aligned with white supremacists.
12:06
778. Right. Don't talk about it. Calls,
12:09
mini rants, and then just rattling
12:11
off headlines -- Right. -- it kind of works.
12:13
But if you take the calls out of
12:15
it, You're left with just
12:17
stuff. It's like a bread sandwich. The
12:20
calls the calls provide the element
12:22
of chaos -- Mhmm. -- that makes
12:24
List 778 the staid almost kind
12:26
of monotonous bullshit worth it. And sometimes
12:29
they inform whatever happens at the rest of the
12:31
show. Right. Right. Last time Alex got really
12:33
bad. There are no planes in Vietnam.
12:35
Ah, Dan. There are no planes
12:37
in Vietnam. Right.
12:38
That is 778, you describe 778 us
12:40
fly them. You describe it as chaos
12:43
and certainly it is, but it's also something
12:45
else. It's also something else. And
12:47
that's a creation. And I think that during this
12:49
period, yeah, like I was saying, there's less calls.
12:52
And I think that hurts hurts things. Mhmm.
12:55
But anyway, we're going to jump into January
12:58
eighth and a little bit before
13:00
that a long way because there's a couple of points
13:02
that I think are are
13:04
are relevant. Yeah.
13:05
But before we do, let's say hello to some new walks.
13:07
778 a great idea. So first, happy anniversary
13:10
sleeping 778 from one charming lizard
13:12
to another baby. Love 778 pet. Thank
13:15
you so much, you're now a policy 778. I'm a
13:17
policy walk. Thank you very much. Thank you. Next,
13:19
Bilbo Baggins, boobs. Thank you so much, you're
13:21
now policy
13:22
walk. I'm
13:22
a policy 778. I
13:23
think I might have said that one already in the
13:25
past. I'm not sure. I don't think there's Our ear 778
13:28
aren't good.
13:28
Never
13:28
a bad time. Next, big floppy accordion
13:31
penis. Thank you so much. You're now a policy walk.
13:33
I'm a policy walk. Thank you. Sometimes
13:35
we have these these long, clever,
13:38
like, take you on a journey
13:40
once, and sometimes there's something real
13:42
satisfying -- Mhmm. -- about just a big nice,
13:44
old floppy penis. And, hi, mom.
13:46
I'm on the 778. Thank you so much. You're now a policy
13:49
walk.
13:49
I'm a policy walk. Yeah. Thank
13:50
you very much. Good day. Yeah.
13:52
It's yeah. I 778
13:54
position now. And we 778
13:55
couple technocrats in the 778. So first,
13:57
ritual satanic barbecue sauce. Thank
13:59
you so much. You are now a technocrat. Thank
14:02
you so much too. I listened to two hundred
14:04
absurds in two months and I like, oh, this this
14:06
lousy wonk drop, like you so much. You're now,
14:08
778. And this one actually
14:11
I mean, look, I'm getting put on blast, but
14:13
I accept it because, you know, I didn't
14:16
realize it, but it is something that I
14:18
do. And thank you so much. Dan,
14:20
there is no p in the word something.
14:22
Thank you so much. You are now a technocrat.
14:25
I'm a policy wonk. I have risen
14:27
above my enemies. I
14:30
I might quit tomorrow. I It's gonna take a
14:32
little breaky down. A
14:34
little breaky for me,
14:37
and then we're going to come
14:39
back
14:41
I'm gonna start the show over. But
14:43
I'm the devil. I gotta be taking all the air up
14:45
and all this 778, blah, blah, blah.
14:47
Fuck you.
14:49
I got plenty of words for you. But at the end
14:51
of the day, fuck you in your new world
14:53
order, and fuck the horse she rode
14:55
in on, and all your shit. Maybe
14:58
today she got on less broadcast. Maybe
15:00
I'll just be gone a month, maybe five years.
15:03
Maybe I'll walk out of here tomorrow and
15:05
you never see me again. That's
15:07
really what I wanna do. I never
15:10
778 come back hearing you. I I apologize to
15:12
the crew and the listeners yesterday that I
15:15
was legitimately having breakdowns
15:17
on air.
15:18
I'll be better tomorrow. He's not nope.
15:20
And he never has been. Nope. And he's
15:22
not so great in two thousand three. Like I said,
15:25
it's a lazy slog. He
15:27
kinda is checked out. Sure. I might have
15:29
you. Sure. Sure. Sure. But there is
15:31
very little conversation at
15:34
all about the primaries that
15:36
are coming up. Mhmm. He's very much anti
15:38
Bush, obviously, but there's no real conversation
15:41
778, like, John Edwards, John Kerry
15:43
-- Right. -- even Howard Bean. Who is
15:45
the presumptive front runner coming
15:47
into the
15:48
primaries. Right. Right. Although 778 front
15:51
runner, I think
15:52
it would
15:52
be a fair way to describe it
15:54
because He 778 the primary start.
15:56
He's not very strong.
15:57
It was fairly wide open at that point because
16:00
Bush had a iron grip on the
16:02
world. And
16:03
yeah. He
16:03
did you know, he he was doing quite
16:06
well, and there was a lot of excitement about
16:08
his candidacy. But 778
16:12
underperformed from the 778, I
16:14
would say. Yeah. But
16:16
even as it may, even like before the
16:18
primaries got going, there's a lot 778 Dean
16:20
conversation.
16:21
Mhmm. And so Alex on December
16:23
twenty ninth brings up
16:25
Howard Dean and it turns out does
16:27
not like a dull. But don't worry,
16:29
the snake gene, Howard
16:32
Dean, blast bush over mad cow
16:34
scared. I say that
16:36
because I've been studying Dean and watching him
16:38
and 778 guy's got evil in his
16:40
eyes and evil in his actions. He
16:43
he says Bush didn't do enough quickly enough
16:45
to stem the tide of panic, and he
16:47
says we need federal control and federal
16:49
funding. To help you
16:51
land shoots. And
16:54
I'm not saying I like bush. My point is,
16:56
these guys are all globalist 778. Boat.
16:59
He's another Yay old
17:01
boy. Yeah. So the audio on that episode
17:03
is also borderline unusual. Yeah.
17:05
Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty pretty bad. Yeah.
17:07
778. Yeah. Yeah. 8 Dean. Hate evil.
17:09
Dean's
17:09
a snake. 8 Snack Deans.
17:12
He's he's putting us all on
17:14
double secret probation. Yeah.
17:16
He's he's 778
17:20
it it helped Mad Cow
17:22
or
17:22
something. Yeah. Yeah. I I do appreciate
17:24
how Alex tries to turn even
17:26
the best things into, like,
17:28
oh, he wants to help ranchers.
17:31
Like, no. I mean, yeah, he he does. You
17:33
can say it weird, but that is what he
17:35
wants. There is a lot of
17:38
mad cow talk during this time. Sure.
17:40
It was a very hot issue, cows are 778.
17:42
And Alex has some weird
17:45
thoughts His
17:47
belief seems to be that there
17:49
is so much more mad cow
17:51
than people are
17:52
saying.
17:52
8. So there's a ton of 778 Yes.
17:54
Okay. And most Alzheimer's is
17:56
actually mad cow. Okay. But
17:59
he also doesn't think Dean
18:01
should say we should do anything about it.
18:03
Well,
18:06
778 unclear. I I was in a tough position
18:08
because, obviously, like a
18:10
lot of the the transmission
18:13
of mad cow comes from feeding
18:15
cows. Right. Dead cows -- 778.
18:18
-- or contamination of
18:21
food supplies for farm
18:24
animals. Right. Right. And wash your
18:26
hands, everybody. The issue there
18:28
is ah, how do we solve this? Regulation
18:31
and enforcement of regulation. And
18:35
so that puts Alex in a little bit of a
18:38
bind. And so he he doesn't
18:40
really have much to say other than
18:43
he throws out the the terribly
18:45
Hatsfield Jacob a lot. And I
18:47
guess he thinks that that just proves all his
18:49
points. Sure. He's like, oh, it's just Alzheimer's. Everybody
18:52
is 778 cases are mad. It's
18:54
just
18:54
all 778. Well, no. That's not fair. He's all
18:56
minimizing all time. Right. Right. Right. Right.
18:59
Right. He's saying that it's much more
19:00
prevalent. Sure. Sure. We all
19:02
are already living with
19:04
They're trying to attack the small 778
19:06
and kill off their cows.
19:07
So the problem isn't that
19:10
there's a lot of mad cow. The
19:12
problem is that they've been covering up
19:14
how much mad cow there has been And they're
19:16
making a big deal out of it now in
19:18
778 get these small rangers -- Gotcha.
19:20
-- to put them out of business. The people who Howard
19:22
Dean wants to help. Allegedly.
19:27
So we we enter
19:29
a down period -- Sure. -- whether
19:31
it's not much going on.
19:31
How much going on? And we jumped back in here on
19:34
January fifth. And I'm not actually even
19:36
sure this is super relevant.
19:38
778 Alex talks a little bit about Bush
19:40
and this is
19:43
weird. And this
19:45
weekend, listening to talk radio,
19:47
I heard the big national host, two
19:50
separate ones praising him.
19:52
Oh, he got some quail.
19:56
Oh, he's such a hunter.
19:59
Did you see him? 778
20:01
chain saw. He's such
20:03
a Texan. I
20:05
mean, this should be like if I went to New
20:08
York and and started talking about what
20:10
778 New Yorker. I am. I'm
20:12
tired of it, folks. It should 778 it.
20:15
And then the Crawford Ranch is
20:17
a 778 complete with old
20:19
tractors, hay bales,
20:22
everything. It is a set.
20:24
And a couple times a year, bush goes out
20:27
with chain saw. A giant chain
20:29
saw will cut one inch
20:32
trees and it
20:34
it's just mindless. I I'm just sick
20:36
of it. Oh, he's such a good
20:38
country boy. He's
20:41
like John Wayne. I can't
20:43
handle any more of 778, folks. I'm a I
20:45
don't 067 plus
20:48
generation 778. And I think more than 778,
20:50
what, eighteen 778 nine, span
20:53
next land grants eighteen thirty on
20:55
my father's side of the
20:56
family, my mother's side German immigrants
20:58
in the eighteen forties.
20:59
So you're a legal 778. But it it's
21:01
just a symptom of all the other phoniness.
21:04
The the Turkey put
21:07
together by, you know,
21:09
some shift presented
21:12
to the troops, no one was allowed to eat it.
21:15
The the fable
21:17
of Jessica Lynn 778 that being a
21:19
fabrication. Bush
21:21
and the Madden USA boxes
21:24
behind him last year up
21:27
in Saint Louis, 8 in USA,
21:29
it was really made in China.
21:32
My point is it's an illusion. It
21:35
was an illusion. Illusion with Bill 778. It's
21:37
an illusion with George Bush and so
21:39
many people. I mean, they think, wow,
21:41
he's out hunting for quail. He must
21:43
be pro second amendment. I'm what this
21:45
NeoCon was saying this weekend, then
21:48
I flipped channels here another one praising
21:51
him. Oh, he's so wonderful.
21:54
You know how 778 hard it is to
21:56
to shoot quail. He's so
21:58
manly 778
22:00
quails about the easiest thing there is on
22:02
the face of the planet. You find
22:04
in Quail and you got a shotgun.
22:07
Only a complete moron couldn't shoot
22:09
him. It's a ground bird. I've shot
22:11
778
22:12
John warrant stacks of them. I've
22:15
never missed. I'm
22:17
just tired of it. I can't handle it anymore.
22:20
Why? Are you so mad? About
22:22
people being like, oh, who's 778 quail?
22:25
You know, I think for people
22:29
who have such deep seated
22:32
roots Mhmm. -- in a place. The
22:34
idea of somebody some carpet
22:36
bagger coming in and putting on these
22:38
affectations. Mhmm. Someone who
22:41
778 as though there was somebody who didn't have
22:43
millions of dollars. Mhmm. Acting as
22:45
though they were like the every man. Sure.
22:47
Someone who didn't have even one
22:49
boat. Mhmm. You know, they were trying to act like
22:51
something they weren't. Mhmm. You know,
22:53
I think that made him really angry 778
22:56
see someone else act
22:58
like a thing that they were not actually
23:00
themselves. Yeah.
23:02
Yeah. III get what you're
23:04
putting down there.
23:05
Yeah. I was being real subtle. Yeah.
23:07
I think there's a mix of that and maybe
23:10
just a little jealousy that 778 one gives sense
23:12
exactly
23:13
what it is. It's jealousy. Yes. No one gives
23:15
me credit for being a
23:16
big manly man who shoots sexy quails.
23:18
You should see. It's one hundred percent jealousy.
23:20
I want people to say how great a Texan
23:23
I am. That's why I'm gonna vote for guy
23:25
who I think will call me the Texan
23:27
in the White House.
23:28
True. He's wrapped up in that identity.
23:30
He's wrapped up in that identity. Yeah.
23:32
I mean, sure. I guess 778 their
23:35
Crawford Ranch 778, like, a
23:38
fully operating ranch, but
23:40
like how could it be? Yeah. They have
23:43
lives in the
23:45
city. They don't they need
23:46
to.
23:46
I think is Alex's family
23:48
ranch a fully 8 ranch? It
23:51
and Alex works on it for fourteen hours
23:53
every day while research in a while
23:55
also recording his
23:56
show. I don't think it was, but I think 778,
23:59
if you remember, Alex says his dad's getting back into
24:02
cattle. Yes. I do remember that there's some cattle
24:04
on the ranch. All of that. 778 oh,
24:06
god. Yeah. I don't know. I just I
24:08
just felt like, oh, this is interpersonal. Yeah.
24:11
This is this is political. This is dope.
24:13
This is Alex. That's his heart. In his feelings.
24:15
Yep. So,
24:18
again, a little bit of a dull stretch, and
24:20
we get to January 8, and
24:22
we get some deans 8 we
24:25
get into the meat. Well, a scandal has
24:27
broken out. A scandal? Yes. Oh,
24:29
shit. This is not something I
24:31
remember. Very good. So
24:34
we know that they staged. We know that
24:36
it's an advertisement technique of
24:38
propaganda. 778 a pitch Okay?
24:41
That's what's happening. They're using high-tech
24:43
advertisement techniques to
24:45
sell us an image, to sell us an idea
24:48
that 778 are saviors. Give our rights
24:50
up. They'll keep us safe. But
24:53
the hypocrisy comes in here. This
24:55
is all for Rush Limbaugh's website. The aching
24:57
of the money
24:58
shot. And it
25:00
says, did any of you wonder when you saw
25:02
this photo of Howard Dean and Bill Bradley?
25:06
Who D in Iowa, how the diminutive
25:08
doctor Dean, who claims to be five, eight,
25:11
and three quarters, appears the
25:13
same size as six five former
25:15
NBA far. We did too.
25:17
While the image is below grab from CNN's
25:19
comment, show us how that feat was pulled
25:21
off with some skillful. Why 778. Click
25:24
the panels for larger images, and
25:27
they've got a clip to provide and
25:29
to see what's afoot. They 778 video clip.
25:32
In the foot, first 778, Bradley is speaking,
25:34
and you'll notice that he's standing on a 778. While
25:36
Dean watches far in the background, when Bradley introduces
25:39
Dean, they 778 places Dean steps up
25:41
and Bradley steps down. The
25:43
series of images show from behind
25:46
how their position switch puts them at a
25:48
relatively equal height. How
25:50
having dupe their willing accomplices in the 778.
25:52
What? They think all of us, you
25:54
idiots in America. They 778 for
25:57
the money shot and said OUR 778
26:00
CHALLENGE DEMOCRAT FRONT RUNNER IS
26:03
THE IMPOSING LOOKING AS THE FORMER
26:05
NBA SUPERSTAR are endorsing him.
26:09
And, yes, this is how they 778
26:11
things, but that's the oldest thing in
26:13
the book
26:15
where politics that aren't very tall
26:17
to have a box.
26:20
Yep. So the scandal
26:22
is Resilient Ball is
26:25
Yeah. Really mad --
26:26
Yep. -- that they made they
26:28
gave a box or a
26:30
platform -- Sure. -- so
26:32
Howard Dean would look as tall as Bill
26:34
Bradley, which no one in their right
26:37
mind would think is
26:39
like they're standing on level
26:41
platforms if they are appearing
26:43
to be the same
26:44
height. Because he's
26:46
a tall man. Now while I
26:48
recognize that it is two thousand
26:51
778, which is the past and I remember all of
26:53
us being much much less sophisticated
26:57
back then. Yeah. But I
26:59
truly believe that
27:01
no one was
27:02
like, wow, look at six foot
27:04
five Howard Dean. Yeah. And and
27:06
I don't think anybody thought that. One of the
27:09
big photos that you can find here.
27:11
If you'll look at my screen
27:12
there, that's from Getty images. Yeah.
27:14
And it shows It clearly
27:16
shows Bill Bradley again.
27:18
No one's actually taller. He was in
27:20
the NBA. No one could possibly if
27:22
and maybe here's what I would accept. If 778
27:25
was, like, a guy if it was a guy my height,
27:27
you know, six feet 778, and and
27:29
he looked exactly my height. And we're
27:31
only talking about, you know, vision a
27:34
few inches in the It's like his dating
27:36
profile height. Know, like, I'm five foot
27:38
ten on my dating 778. That kind of thing. Mhmm.
27:40
You know, maybe that's that's
27:42
a little bit of possible
27:44
deception. Possible 778, something
27:46
like that. He said he's five, eight, and three quarters.
27:48
That's bad enough. But Bill When you're hanging
27:50
out into the quarters, the height of
27:52
Michael fucking
27:53
Jordan.
27:54
778. There's no way that you're gonna be like,
27:56
oh, I think that is hip. That's crazy. I
27:58
also wasn't fully paying attention
28:01
as I was listening to this. I 778 distracted
28:03
by something. And I thought they were talking about
28:05
Sean
28:05
Bradley. And I was like, that's gonna
28:07
be tough to cheat. Yeah. You're gonna need a
28:10
big platform.
28:12
778 mean, better than Mary and Bradley, I suppose.
28:14
Okay.
28:16
He was Mary and Bradley. He was six foot eight. Sean
28:18
Bradley was 77I know. That's what
28:20
I'm saying.
28:20
Okay. That would be better.
28:22
Yeah. If Sean Bradley,
28:24
if Bill Bradley, we're next to each other. Right?
28:26
They need to cheat
28:27
it. If
28:28
Sean Bradley, we're next to Bill Bradley.
28:30
We're next to Howard Dean. Woo. That's
28:33
that's like your chart of evolution is what that
28:35
is. That's like a roller
28:37
coaster slash. Yes.
28:39
Slowed 778 word.
28:40
Tony Hawk should jump off of the ramp 778
28:42
that they're all three holding. So I
28:44
I thought this was pretty 778. And
28:47
maybe not that interesting. Oh, yeah. And I was
28:49
getting ready to judge Alex for it.
28:51
Sure. But then there's a twist. Okay. Of
28:53
course, there's a twist. Alex doesn't really
28:55
care about this. Okay.
28:57
778 why
28:58
I acres swim ball. 778 there and
29:00
make a big deal 778 of Howard Dean trying
29:02
to look tall. Him
29:04
compared to people committing felonies,
29:08
fair or handing out fake
29:10
turkeys. And I fair.
29:13
These very talk show hosts, these 778.
29:16
They don't care about open borders 778 don't
29:18
care about bush planning to sign the assault weapons
29:20
ban 778 don't care about all the, you know,
29:22
the 778 of Taiwan to China. They don't
29:25
care about that. They
29:27
squeal when Hillary went to Afghanistan
29:29
to present Turkey to the troops.
29:32
And of course, it was a staged event.
29:34
Yes. It's obvious, but
29:36
it was bad when she did it. And simultaneously,
29:39
I heard it on one Nashville. Show the same ten minutes.
29:42
Good when Bush does it. Yep.
29:44
So it's Yeah.
29:45
You got it, man. You figured out how American
29:47
politics work. I I thought I thought
29:49
it was interesting that you have this
29:53
stupid critique of
29:56
the presumptive Democratic 778 runner
29:59
primaries. Sure. And Alex resists
30:02
taking that and actually aims the 778
30:05
at rush limbaugh. Yeah. And these
30:07
folks who are like, why are you so mad about this,
30:09
but not mad at Bush doing photo ops.
30:11
Right. Stuff. I thought that was interesting
30:14
778 it's it's a small maybe
30:17
not that important point. Sure.
30:19
But it's
30:21
It is It's at least, like, I can't really
30:23
argue with it. It is more interesting than
30:25
what Rush Limbaugh did. Yes. So
30:27
that's a that an achievement
30:29
for
30:30
Alex.
30:30
Mhmm. We
30:30
should all be very proud of him in two thousand
30:32
three. Well, he's prioritizing a
30:35
778 at liberty over
30:37
Dean.
30:38
Yeah. Which is something.
30:41
While at the same time wrapping
30:43
it all up in his other
30:45
meaningless pot 778 towards other
30:47
people staging
30:48
bullshit. Fair. Yeah. So
30:50
778, none of it means anything.
30:52
Nope. And neither does this next
30:55
call. I just wanted one
30:57
another comment. I used to work at
30:59
this television show. I don't know if I should
31:01
say name because it might give them that
31:03
name. But You
31:04
can say the name of anything you want, sir. It's
31:06
called the first amendment. Exactly. And well, that's
31:08
what I'm about to get to. Okay. Brenda
31:10
mine out work with e 778 to roommate with
31:12
him, but moved out because he was just complete. I
31:16
don't know it's, I guess, jerk maybe.
31:18
Okay. Fine. Go ahead. And I
31:20
brought up couple of 778. You know, I was like, yeah, you should
31:22
really listen to this guy on the radio. He's
31:24
like, oh, radio shows are blah
31:27
blah blah and 778 trying to trying
31:29
to talk back 778.
31:31
were trying to just say that your your
31:33
778 was lost. And I was like, you know, no,
31:36
he makes him play since to me. I
31:38
think outside the bar bucks, you know. And
31:40
I guess he's just brainwashed or
31:42
something, but -- Sure. -- I
31:44
tried to tell him about Pearl Harbor and how
31:46
the president knew as it's,
31:48
like, two weeks in
31:49
advance. And he's, like, oh, they didn't they didn't know
31:51
that. They don't
31:52
778 be classified in public now.
31:54
Yeah. And everybody of the
31:56
work, but 778 was crazy or some 778. They
31:59
labeled me anti American just because
32:01
I believe the 778 not a good
32:02
person.
32:03
And
32:03
the good government can't be trusted. You know what I
32:05
thought 778 was it made me really mad because
32:08
I mean
32:08
So I guess all the founding fathers are terrorists
32:10
because they said don't trust the government. All
32:12
the founding fathers who made the
32:14
government. Anyway,
32:17
yeah, this guy is is wrong.
32:19
Yeah. That was Alex. Yep. 778 is not
32:22
widely documented and declassified
32:24
that FDR knew about
32:26
the Pearl Harbor bombing two weeks in
32:28
advance. Yeah.
32:28
That would have been an issue. That is an
32:30
interesting conspiracy theory that has, like,
32:32
come down from the sort
32:34
of anti interventionists --
32:37
Yeah. -- of that time. Yeah. You know, obviously,
32:39
a lot of people had the let's not get
32:41
into the war 778. And not
32:43
all of them were Nazi sympathizer. Sure. Sure.
32:45
Sure. Sure. Sure. But I do think a lot of ones who may be
32:47
drifted towards these conspiracy theories,
32:50
who may might 778 had some overlap
32:52
with people who had some maybe
32:55
sympathies. Yeah. That doesn't sound too.
32:57
But then the the two weeks
32:59
in advance and the declassified
33:01
stuff, a lot of that has to do with
33:03
a book called Dave 778. Mhmm. By
33:05
a guy named Robert stint
33:07
it.
33:07
And it's all just nonsense. Yes.
33:10
But anyway I think I think we
33:12
would have found out if time travel had
33:15
existed through that last
33:17
clip. Interesting.
33:18
Because how do
33:19
you mean? Because if time travel existed,
33:21
then once Alex said Sir, you
33:23
can say anything you want. It's called the first amendment.
33:26
Future Alex would have tackled him
33:28
off of the stage and been
33:29
like, hey man, you can not
33:31
say whatever you want.
33:33
I get it. I wanted that guy to say what TV
33:35
show we worked on. I know. 778 would have been
33:37
interesting because think that's law and order. No.
33:41
I would bet dollars to doughnuts 778- Yeah.
33:44
-- that you'd never have heard of
33:46
the show. Yeah.
33:46
And it's not because of the the
33:48
time that it was two thousand three. Sure. It would have
33:50
been show that no one had ever heard of.
33:52
And it might have been on local access.
33:54
Right. Right. Right. But that would make sense.
33:57
So at least we've got a call. Yeah.
33:59
That's
33:59
good. Sure. Matt? The
34:02
reason I decided He actually worked on Aquatene
34:04
Hunger Force.
34:05
In two thousand three? Yeah. With low
34:07
Is that concurrent?
34:08
I think it wasn't that far off. I think
34:10
I might be maybe, like, three years off.
34:13
778 weird to think about. Yeah. It is. Let's not dwell
34:15
any longer. Okay. Invite. How old do you?
34:19
So the reason
34:21
I decided to stop
34:23
on January 8 -- Yeah. Was I
34:25
heard that Alex had a guest on 778 I
34:28
got pretty excited about. Mhmm. And it's a guy
34:30
named 778 Bursey. He's
34:32
a guy who is a progressive
34:37
activist -- Sure. -- and has been for
34:39
very long time. Interesting. And he
34:41
had been arrested for protesting Bush
34:44
in two thousand two. I'm listening. And
34:46
so I thought like, well,
34:48
this dynamic is going to be fascinating.
34:51
And so Alex discusses his
34:53
arrest a little bit here.
34:55
Okay. The 778 Department is now prosecuting
34:58
Brett Bursey 778
35:00
was arrested for holding a no
35:02
war for oil sign at BUSH
35:04
visits to Columbus, South Carolina. Local
35:07
police acting under secret service orders
35:09
778 a free speech zone. Half
35:11
a mile from where Bush would speak. Burke
35:13
Bersey was standing amid hundreds of people hearing
35:16
signs praising the president. Police told
35:18
Bersey to remove himself to a free speech
35:20
zone. Bersey refused and was
35:22
arrested Bergie said that he
35:24
asked the police officer, it
35:26
was the content of my sign. And
35:28
he said, yes, sir. It's the content
35:30
of your
35:31
sign. That's the problem.
35:32
So this is a little bit of pickle because
35:35
in many ways, Alex is on the right side
35:37
of the issue here in as much as it is
35:39
true that Bush AND HIS ADMINISTRATION WERE NOT
35:41
RESPECTFUL OF PROTESTERS 778 AND
35:43
THERE ARE A Myriad OF EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE WHO
35:45
RECEIVED 778 THEY PROBABLY SHOULDN'T HAVE
35:47
BECAUSE OF THAT. On the other hand, Alex
35:50
is full of shit. And he doesn't even deal with
35:52
this story appropriately, which I can 778,
35:54
is a testament to how unreliable Alex
35:57
Jones is as a person to listen to.
35:59
Even when he's making an argument you agree
36:01
with, you can't really be sure he's making
36:03
that argument on a basis that you should agree
36:06
with. And you can really never know if
36:08
the things that he's saying are accurate and
36:10
true. And what's most important
36:12
is you cannot trust him even if
36:14
he does help you out with whatever it is you're
36:16
doing. I expect him to immediately
36:19
change his mind instantly. That's a
36:21
it's a liability. Yeah. So this is a story
36:23
about this guy named 778 Bursey, who's a
36:25
longtime South Carolina progressive activist.
36:28
When I say long time, I mean that he
36:30
was arrested for vandalizing the selective
36:32
service offices in nineteen seventy over
36:34
his opposition to the war
36:36
Vietnam.
36:36
Fuck yeah. He has a huge resume and
36:38
this is far from the first time he was arrested.
36:41
Yeah. And when you get right down to it,
36:43
If you look at his record, it doesn't seem like
36:45
he and Alex would get along at all. For
36:47
example, he was once arrested for burning a
36:50
confederate lag which Alex would take
36:52
issue with. Hell yeah. He protested the
36:54
candidacy of 778 Maddox for Georgia
36:56
governor in nineteen sixty six. Mavox
36:59
was a segregationist who would go on to win
37:01
the election and be supporter of George Wallace's
37:03
nineteen sixty eight presidential campaign,
37:05
which employed most of the people who
37:07
formed Alex's ideology like
37:09
Gary Allen. Beyond that, was
37:12
a member of the Southern 778 organized
37:14
AND COMMITTEE WHICH WOULD LATER BE FOLDED INTO
37:16
THESE STUDENTS FOR A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. AND
37:18
I THINK YOU CAN GUESS WHAT ALEX'S FOURFATHER
37:20
IS IN THE JOHN BURN society had to say about
37:22
that. Oh,
37:22
no. They loved it. They were definitely not communist
37:25
sympathizers.
37:26
He found it and is still
37:28
a director of the South Carolina progressive
37:30
network who 8 around issues of social
37:32
justice, including LGBTQ rights,
37:35
which Alex is a staunch opponent
37:37
of
37:37
Like, still now or still in two thousand three?
37:40
Two Right. Until twenty twenty
37:42
three. Yeah. Damn this dude is a
37:44
a fuck yeah, man.
37:45
Short, if there ever was a lifelong globalist
37:48
agitator according to Alex's ideology,
37:50
Brett Bursey would fit that bill. Yeah.
37:52
As for the issue of his arrest in two thousand
37:54
two, there's some fudging of details
37:56
here in order to sell the 778, but at the same
37:59
time, it is almost certainly nonsense
38:01
that he was arrested. There are couple
38:03
of misrepresentations in the clip that we just
38:05
heard from Alex. The first is that Alex said
38:07
that the 778 Service set up a free speech 778,
38:09
half a mile from where bush going to 778. And
38:12
that's not strictly accurate. They
38:14
set up a restricted area that was a hundred
38:16
yards in each side of this
38:18
hanger. And then half of my mile in
38:20
the area between the hanger and the highway.
38:22
Sure. However, it is worth noting that
38:25
an official from the airport told the New York times
38:27
that they set up a free speech
38:28
zone, half mile from the hanger. So that
38:30
could be where that
38:31
information is coming from. Yeah. Yeah. The hanger
38:34
is where the rally was taking place, not where bush
38:36
was landing just to be clear. So I had to get there
38:38
to the hanger. The restricted
38:40
area was not fully restricted the
38:42
whole time. THIS IS
38:44
THE PIECE THAT ALEX ISN'T CLARIFIED WHEN HE SAYS
38:46
THAT BERSEY WAS STANDING AMONG HUNDREDS
38:48
OF PEOPLE. HE DEFINITELY WAS
38:51
AT ONE 778. Because the restricted area
38:53
was free for pedestrians to mill
38:55
about until pretty shortly before
38:57
bush arrived. The people who attending
38:59
the rally needed to wait in line to get in.
39:01
People who were waiting in line for tickets were there,
39:03
and there were people with signs within the restricted
39:06
area until it was shut down. Once
39:08
the restricted areas became restricted, the
39:10
ticketed rally 778 went into the
39:12
hanger and everyone else was asked to exit
39:15
the area which according to court documents
39:17
was what happened, except with Bursey.
39:20
Right. Bursey has said that the officer said the
39:22
content of his sign was the problem but outside
39:24
of the statement, can't find corroboration of
39:26
that. It's entirely possible that
39:28
it was said, or it's possible
39:30
that the content of his sign to 778 indicated
39:33
that he was not a ticketed rally
39:35
goer, so that meant that the protocol
39:37
would be you have to move. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. You know,
39:40
like, It
39:40
would Yeah. 778 it would not I know you didn't
39:42
buy a
39:42
ticket. It wouldn't be plausible for the officer to
39:44
think, like, hey, maybe you're waiting in line to get
39:46
in at that point. Well, George Bush, I hope he gets
39:49
it on fire by a wow. Wombat.
39:51
Yeah. You didn't buy a
39:52
ticket, sir. Go on.
39:53
Get on. 778
39:54
dollars. Exactly. Like, 778? Come on, man. It seems
39:56
it
39:56
seems unlikely. Yeah. And
39:59
so, like, none of this is to say that he should
40:01
have been arrested, but the particulars of
40:03
it are not really being accurately
40:05
conveyed. I don't Right. Right. Right. But, I mean,
40:07
even then, the the issues
40:10
that there were free speech zones and that's fucked
40:12
up. And everything about that was going
40:14
to lead to him being arrested if you --
40:16
Well, I might not. -- it 778 becomes it
40:19
becomes a pretty hard
40:21
question of 778
40:23
what point is it at abuse of restricting
40:25
areas? And at what
40:27
point is it a common
40:30
sense, rational need
40:32
to protect people. Right. And
40:35
I think there are probably a bit on
40:37
the wrong side of
40:38
778. I think the Bush administration probably
40:40
did abuse some of that restricted
40:42
area. I I appreciate 8 appreciate
40:45
me. I think
40:47
they'd 778
40:49
couple. But I also don't think I don't think
40:51
in principle 778 blanket wrong
40:53
to have restricted areas where there
40:55
are people who should be the
40:57
778. I recognize what 778 throwing
41:00
a shoes. I
41:00
recognize what you're saying. 778 again, he had
41:02
that shoe coming. So we have
41:05
a lot of them. We have a lot of them. We
41:09
have to balance some things, and
41:11
I do think that this was out of balance. 778
41:14
at the same time, it's important
41:16
to wrestle with that, I think. And
41:18
Alex is giving no
41:20
time.
41:21
Yeah. It's easier to say, hey, that was fucked
41:23
up, but it's a lot harder to say, how do we fix
41:25
778? And make sure it doesn't
41:26
happen. Right. Yeah. So but
41:29
the misrepresentations, I believe, keep going.
41:31
Ernie stated that he had already moved two
41:33
hundred yards from where Bush was supposed to
41:35
speak. Ernie later complained the
41:37
problem was 778 could area kept
41:40
moving. It was wherever I happen to be
41:42
standing. That is also not accurate.
41:44
What happened is that Bursey set up
41:46
shop on the 778 corner of Airport
41:48
Boulevard in Lexington Drive with signs
41:51
and a megaphone. When he was approached
41:53
by officers, he decided to cross the street
41:55
and go to the northwest corner of the
41:57
same intersection. Both of these
41:59
corners were within the restricted zone.
42:02
The zone didn't move to where he was.
42:04
He just wasn't aware of where the boundaries
42:06
were. I don't fully fault Bursey
42:09
for this one because from everything I can tell, the boundaries
42:11
of the zone may not have been well communicated in
42:14
as much as there weren't, like, barriers
42:17
and stuff to fully say you have to
42:19
be behind this line.
42:20
Boundaries of the zone were wherever it was
42:22
the cops felt comfortable with people being
42:24
outside of the zone. Not necessarily.
42:26
Right. It was an established area.
42:30
Right. It was set. I mean, THOUGH.
42:32
THERE WASN'T AN EXACT LINE. THERE
42:34
WAS, BUT IT WASN'T 8. 778. AND
42:37
THAT COULD GIVE THE PURA that
42:40
it is arbitrary or wherever the police
42:42
wanted it to
42:42
be. Right. But from everything I can tell
42:44
from looking at the court documents, that
42:47
is not the case.
42:48
Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I mean, again, if you're
42:50
gonna have a restricted zone, put orange cones
42:52
up. It feels it feels absurd to disagree. You
42:54
know, it feels absurd that we're here. It was
42:56
fully explained to him
42:59
I, the officers. Sure. 778, yes, I
43:01
totally agree. There should be Put up
43:03
some
43:03
fucking cones. What do we do? At very least,
43:05
there should be physical representations of
43:07
letters. This is the line. Yeah. Please
43:09
stay behind the line for everyone's
43:11
safe. Yeah. And that's that's the other
43:13
version of, you know, like, oh,
43:16
people bought tickets. We need to make sure that this
43:18
area is safe. Keeping that line
43:20
and making that something that people are aware of
43:22
is the same thing. 778 keeping them
43:24
safe. Mhmm. You cannot have a
43:27
question about that. Otherwise, that's going
43:29
to become a point of
43:30
contention. True. And then you're gonna
43:32
get into an argument. So
43:34
there there's pretty severe consequences coming.
43:37
Sheriff of this. Barzin was
43:39
of trespassing five months later, the charge
43:41
was dropped because of South Carolina
43:43
law prohibits
43:44
arresting people for trespassing on public property.
43:47
But the
43:48
judge is 778 in the person of
43:50
US 778, 778 Thurman
43:52
Jr. Okay. In
43:55
charging merging with
43:57
violating a rarely enforced federal
43:59
law regarding entering
44:01
a restricted area around the president of the
44:03
United
44:04
States. If 778, did. Birdsie
44:06
faces a six month trip up the
44:08
river at a five thousand dollar fine
44:10
federal magistrate Risto, Mark
44:13
778, did NIDE REQUEST
44:15
FOR A JURY TRIAL. Reporter: SO IT IS
44:17
TRUE THAT SOUTH CAROLINA'S 778 STATUE
44:20
WAS UNapplicABLE BECAUSE THE AIRPORT
44:22
IS PUBLIC PROPERTY. 778 seems completely
44:24
insane to me that Straumann Junior
44:26
would deem this something worth wasting public
44:29
resources on to recharge this
44:31
case, but you can see his name, so
44:33
you shouldn't expect much from this guy. Can't
44:35
imagine a Strom really being on
44:37
the wrong side of history. It's fascinating.
44:39
I mean, he is Strom Thurman's son. Right.
44:41
And then his son is named 778
44:44
III. Oh my god. And, like, I don't blame
44:46
him for being named Straumann Joonoon. Sure.
44:48
He didn't choose that.
44:49
But now that he's got a third.
44:50
Yeah. It's his name. Yep. What's
44:52
so great about the name, 778. You know you
44:54
know what I love most about America
44:57
is that we decide SIDED. AT THE VERY
44:59
BEGINNING, WE DECLINATION OF
45:02
INDEPENDENCE. NO ARISTOCRACY,
45:05
Dan. NO 778 RULING
45:08
class. No more of this
45:11
778 power from the king
45:13
to his son to the
45:14
son. None of that. It's all about
45:16
merit, Dan. That's what America's
45:19
about. And that's why we need
45:21
to repeal the death tax. Yes. Exactly.
45:26
778. Interesting. So
45:28
Alex is also he's discussing
45:30
this punishment that Bursey could face in
45:32
terms of, like, absolute worst case
45:34
scenarios, which were never going to
45:37
be applied. In the end, he got convicted
45:39
and he had to pay five hundred dollar fine with ten
45:41
dollar assessment on top. That was
45:43
the verdict that came down on January sixth
45:45
778 days before Alex is doing this
45:47
episode.
45:48
Uh-huh. To case every reason to know that he's
45:50
full of shit about what the consequences were.
45:52
Right. Right. Right. Hershey appealed his case and
45:54
the court upheld the lower court's judgment
45:56
It seems really fucking 778, and
45:59
the abuse of these free speech zones was
46:01
a big issue in the early
46:03
two thousands. LEADING
46:05
THE CHARGE AGAINST THESE FREE SPEECH
46:07
ZONE. AND ALL THIS WAS NOT OTHER
46:09
THAN ALEX' 778 ENEMY, THE ACOU.
46:11
Who constantly seem to be doing the things that
46:14
Alex wishes someone would
46:15
do. Yeah. Just weird. Yeah. Weird.
46:18
Yeah. Yeah. You know, it is it's almost like
46:20
if Alex believed the things
46:23
that he was
46:23
saying, his career would
46:25
look eerily similar 778
46:29
yeah. I mean, he'd at
46:31
least recognize that this isn't, like,
46:34
the evil globalist
46:35
all -- Yeah. -- 778 that he pretends
46:38
it is. Yeah. They're
46:39
constantly doing the things that he screams
46:41
about needing to be done. Yep. Well, for the most
46:43
part, Maybe not -- Rare. -- maybe not all the time,
46:45
because some of his ideas are little bit
46:47
nuts. Right. Yeah. So 8,
46:49
you heard there at the end that he's not gonna get
46:52
a jury
46:52
trial. And that's, you
46:54
know, that's the case. Federal 8,
46:57
778, Mark 778, denied
46:59
Bersey's request for a jury trial. Oh,
47:04
another little caveat. I thought we
47:06
got those because his violation
47:08
is categorized as a petty offense. I
47:11
love this stuff. It's they got laws all over
47:13
the country where they take your house. If you
47:15
leave
47:15
town, your twenty year old son has a beer 778,
47:18
they
47:18
got several cities in New Mexico do this,
47:20
and then they come in and take your house and you can't
47:23
have a trial
47:23
because, well, it's a it's it's
47:26
a city ordinance, but the ordinance
47:28
says they 778 your house, but you don't get
47:30
a trial. Man, I've been to all
47:32
kinds of beer parties in my life. A
47:34
ton of them were at people's parents houses. Yep.
47:37
A bunch of them got busted up by the cops.
47:39
I guess I was lucky that I grew up in Missouri where
47:41
you don't lose your home if your child has a beer
47:43
party while you're at the
47:44
town. Yeah. That would have been that would have
47:46
been a real interesting next day at school.
47:48
Yeah. You know, like, hey, what happened? That
47:50
party you threw was so great last
47:52
night. mean, I left a little bit early,
47:55
so I heard the cops What happened
47:56
next?
47:56
don't have a home anymore.
47:58
Oh. Oh. You don't
48:00
have a
48:01
And I can't count the number of times me and my
48:03
buddies would be hanging out and they're like, you're going to
48:05
the beer party time.
48:06
Better watch out. They might seal your folks' house.
48:09
Oh, man. It's just a it's an a 778,
48:11
but it's not a beer party. We got
48:13
vodka this
48:14
time.
48:15
Oh, well, they can't do anything.
48:16
We got a jungle juice party.
48:18
Cool. 778 I lock the doors. Otherwise, the cops
48:20
will steal it. Anyway, I wanna put little bow on this
48:22
section here where Alex is telling the story of Brett
48:24
Bursey. He and I can be IN AGREEMENT
48:26
ABOUT THE BOTTOM LINE ISSUE, NAMELY THAT BERSEY
48:29
SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED AND THAT BUSH'S
48:31
778 WAS A TIME WHEN THE RIGHT TO PROTEST WAS BEING
48:33
CHILLED BY THE GOVERNMENT and that's a big problem.
48:36
However, this is a conversation and
48:38
an argument that you can make on
48:40
its merits. Yeah. You don't have to mischaracterize
48:43
a situation, fudge details and sensationalize
48:45
things in order to make that point
48:47
valid. And this is part of the reason why
48:50
it isn't useful necessarily
48:53
to listen to
48:55
Alex in order to even to get a
48:57
good point. Right. Right. Right. You can get that
48:59
good point or articulated more really
49:02
and more honestly and
49:05
just as well somewhere else. Right.
49:07
Maybe it won't be as entertaining. Maybe you
49:09
won't the person isn't gonna scream. Like,
49:11
Terry Gross isn't gonna scream. Right.
49:14
But you might get better information that
49:16
can be more useful to your
49:17
life. Yeah. You know, I'm mean, what
49:20
you've done is made a really
49:22
compelling point for why both
49:24
Alex and the media are
49:26
are are really incapable of
49:28
doing a good job, which is that
49:31
Alex is able to sensational
49:33
finalize this story to the point where
49:35
maybe you would find it more interesting than
49:38
if it were to be told in the media. However,
49:41
it is far less 778. Whereas the media
49:43
doesn't know how to sensationalize
49:45
an accurate story 778 relying
49:48
on any number of different
49:50
slight of hate 778 you wonder
49:53
if that sensationalizing in
49:55
and of itself
49:57
is 778 hurts the
49:59
truth fact factor.
50:00
Wow. I mean, I think that's I think we're the
50:02
example of that
50:03
though. I
50:05
mean, clearly, I heard the truth factor. Yeah.
50:09
I've been meaning to talk to you about that. No.
50:15
I think I think that the the thing
50:17
that I come to is that there's there's
50:19
this like Alex's reporting of this story
50:21
in in such a way 8 if you or somebody
50:23
who listened to him and you were trying to make this argument
50:25
that Bush's chilling the free speech
50:28
of people being able to protest. Right?
50:30
And you're you're making this argument to somebody,
50:32
and they're like, this guy got six months
50:34
in jail just for having this sign and
50:36
someone was able to say, you got a five hundred dollar
50:38
fine. You don't even know what you're talking about. Right.
50:40
Right. You'll lose the ability to
50:42
come off as like knowing your
50:45
778. Totally. When you are 778. Right.
50:48
Your point is correct. 778 you
50:50
have,
50:50
like, ammunition that will
50:52
jam your gun. Basically, if you wanna
50:54
use that metaphor. And that's but that's Alex's
50:57
child like but that's Alex
50:59
being a child. That's Alex being a child
51:01
because he cannot process
51:03
the idea that you would give a
51:05
shit over as five hundred dollar fine.
51:08
So to him, it's like if I tell you
51:10
this injustice happened,
51:12
but the only consequence of the injustice
51:14
was five hundred
51:15
bucks, you'll be like, there are worse things.
51:18
Right. You know, I I don't I don't particularly care
51:20
that much about a five hundred dollar fine. I think
51:22
it's kind of like a small thing
51:25
in the grand scheme compared 778, like,
51:27
six months. Sure. Sure. Sure. No. No. Absolutely.
51:29
It's also the principle of the thing. This
51:31
is what's important. And I think that
51:33
everything I can tell about this Bursey
51:36
guy, I would
51:38
assume that though he appealed the
51:40
case, it was not about not paying
51:42
five hundred
51:42
dollars? No. It was about the
51:45
principle of the matter. Yeah.
51:46
And about
51:47
justice ostensibly. And I also think
51:49
that 778 from everything you can tell from his history,
51:51
he did a number of things
51:54
that were meant to be
51:56
confrontational in terms of
51:57
protesting.
51:58
Hell yeah. THEY'S VANDALOT IS THERE'S A
52:00
RICK THROUGH THE 778 SERVICE OFFICE.
52:02
HE HAD TO KNOW THAT THERE WAS A RISK
52:04
THAT YOU WERE GOING to face jail time
52:07
for
52:07
778. Yeah. And he did. And
52:08
he chose it. Yeah. And he chose it. Yeah. And
52:10
he continued -- Right. -- and he faced his consequences.
52:13
778 when he accepted them and that
52:15
went
52:16
that's 778. Yeah. Exactly.
52:18
778 that vein of protest
52:20
that he is involved in or was involved
52:22
in as a younger person, probably not
52:24
now as a like, I don't know how
52:27
old he is, but he's, you know, not
52:29
not to college 778 anymore.
52:31
We'll see him five years down on fine.
52:33
778, like, that is a risk
52:36
that you accept when you
52:38
put yourself in places where
52:41
there is the possibility that can happen. Right.
52:43
And I think I would
52:45
guess
52:47
that he knew that when
52:49
he was there 778. Yeah.
52:51
I would assume. Well, that's what makes
52:53
it a valuable protest. Mhmm.
52:56
If you are not causing any
52:58
problems and you're just sitting quietly
53:00
in the free speech
53:01
zone, then you have not really protested a
53:03
fucking thing. Now have you? Yeah. And I think
53:05
he knew that. Exactly. And I think that
53:07
that was intentional. Exactly.
53:10
Also, from what I understand, it's
53:12
fascinating like he got
53:15
arrested for the the
53:18
vandalism of the selective service office.
53:20
Because the guy he did it with
53:22
was an
53:23
informant. Like, some
53:25
guy,
53:25
like, infiltrated their their
53:27
group. You know, they got snitched 778. I
53:29
just wanna say that the FBI has done
53:32
great things for America. And I
53:34
can't think of any one of their million miss
53:36
steps that has created a far worse world
53:38
than if they had never
53:39
existed. Yeah. Yeah. So I there's
53:41
a New York Times article about him 778. Mhmm.
53:44
And so, like, He
53:47
ended up spending almost two years
53:49
in the 778 for malicious destruction
53:51
of property as he puts it for spraying
53:53
hell no, we won't go on walls. 778
53:55
not before he spent some time hiding in New
53:57
York 778, he says he his family
54:00
feared you'd be killed in prison. Then he was
54:02
arrested in Texas for buying five hundred pounds
54:04
of peyote butt but beat that charge
54:06
out of
54:06
technicality. Hell yeah. So
54:08
that's a protest 8 now. 778
54:11
the way you do it. Yeah.
54:12
So if you look at the game is engaged it, some
54:14
hallucinogens, crimes, and also
54:16
some principled protesters.
54:18
Listen. Ken Casey spent two years
54:21
or so in Mexico. Before
54:23
being deported back to the United
54:25
8. III mean, I think it's I think
54:27
it's the way you do it. You gotta run. Listen.
54:29
Some of us get five hundred pounds of peyote
54:31
buttons. 778 us have beer
54:33
parties. We we all lose our houses
54:36
in the end. What are you gonna
54:37
do? So anyway, they're taking
54:39
away juries as evidenced by this
54:41
case. SO UNDERSTAND FOLKS,
54:43
YOU DON'T GET A JURY TRIAL HE WAS FACING SIX
54:45
MONTHS IN FEDERAL PRISON OF five thousand
54:47
DOLLAR FIND. BOLI,
54:50
THE 778 says, what? If
54:52
the offense is 778 twenty dollars, you've
54:55
got a jury trial, but the feds,
54:57
the judges say no, no, six months
54:59
decision and a five thousand
55:01
dollar fine. They have
55:03
to That's petty. You don't get
55:05
a trial. You start
55:08
778 get it? Oh, we take your house, but you
55:10
can't have a trial because you
55:12
can't have a jury trial because it's a it's
55:15
a city
55:15
ordinance. Oh, there are
55:18
like, limits for, like, what you can
55:20
have a jury trial for civil
55:22
cases. Sure. But
55:24
not in terms of, like, what the punishment
55:26
is
55:26
--
55:27
Right. -- per se. Right. He doesn't understand
55:29
civics in the legal system at all. And
55:31
what I find more fascinating
55:32
Well, I bet that never comes back to item in the ass.
55:35
Oops. And and that's that's
55:37
the thing. He also seems to have no curiosity
55:39
about it at all. Yeah. So the 778 to the
55:42
jury trial does not strictly apply
55:44
to offenses that are not deemed serious,
55:46
which the supreme court defined as
55:49
once they carry a possible penalty of over
55:52
six months incarceration. This
55:54
delineation was put into place by a
55:56
nineteen seventy decision, so this
55:58
shouldn't be news to Alex. You
56:00
know, if you're facing up to six months,
56:02
it's not past that
56:04
that line. Every time I hear anything
56:07
about what the Supreme Court said I think we're
56:09
all fucking insane for allowing them to
56:11
exist. But also 778 is insane. This
56:13
shouldn't be a surprise --
56:14
Well,
56:14
it shouldn't be 778. It shouldn't be a
56:16
surprise to Alex. Right. But but even
56:18
to you,
56:19
if anyone was shocked to me. Like, do
56:21
if you are charged with something like,
56:23
let's say, a first time DUI --
56:25
Sure. -- you don't get a jury
56:27
trial. You're not going you're going
56:29
in front of a judge. Right. Right. Here's
56:31
what I understand that. Because
56:33
I respect that. I respect 778. I just
56:35
mean that the idea that the
56:37
supreme court would say a serious
56:39
offense is six
56:41
months. As
56:43
as if that was not a completely arbitrary
56:46
and bullshit made up thing -- I'm guessing
56:48
they just said. -- I'm guessing that there
56:50
are also factors that
56:52
come into play 778, like, if the
56:55
penalty could be, you know,
56:57
three months in jail and a hundred thousand
56:59
dollars or something, that's then that's also
57:01
a serious case. Sure. I'm sure that there
57:03
are gray areas. But generally
57:05
speaking, if it's over six months' incarceration,
57:07
it's automatic A SERIOUS OFFENCE. Reporter:
57:09
778. SO, LIKE, BUT TO THINK ABOUT HOW
57:11
JAMMED UP THE 778 WOULD BE IF
57:13
YOU REQUIRED A JURY TRIAL
57:16
for every piss 778 crime
57:18
that someone gets charged with, it
57:20
would be impossible to function, and
57:22
everyone would be constantly being called
57:24
for
57:24
juries. Yeah. It would ALMOST POINT
57:26
OUT HOW SILLY IT IS TO ARREST
57:29
PEOPLE FOR THOSE 778 TACK BOLSHITS
57:31
IN FIRST
57:31
PLACE.
57:32
SOME OVER some yes. Some of them
57:34
maybe not. I think a DUI maybe
57:37
is The DUI is refusing somebody
57:39
for And I think a DUI maybe deserves
57:41
more than six months. They're
57:43
not a dick. Well, I don't
57:44
know. We'll see. I think that there is a
57:46
a an incredible difference
57:49
between a first time and a second time 778 tell you
57:51
what.
57:51
Agreed.
57:51
I think that a lot of people,
57:53
myself included. Have been at least eligible
57:56
for 778? Yeah. Yeah.
57:56
And 778 the same time, not recognize
57:59
the severity of it. Until
58:01
shit
58:01
got real. Exactly. I I mean, I
58:03
when I was 778 younger, when I was like
58:05
8, nineteen, I got you
58:08
know, I got arrested for a d like, it wasn't
58:10
a DUI in the end. Yeah.
58:13
But I did end up in some trouble for
58:15
778 to drive. Right. Right. Up
58:17
till that point, you know, it's there
58:20
was the dumb, 8, kid
58:22
thing of, like, if no
58:24
big deal. Yeah. I can handle it.
58:26
I can, you know -- Sure. -- and it
58:28
was not the arrest that ended up
58:31
making it clear to me that I couldn't. It
58:33
was what happened right before it when my car
58:35
skid off the road 778 I couldn't control
58:37
my car. Right. That made it very abundantly
58:39
clear to me And then the following
58:42
of
58:43
778, when the police showed up -- Yeah. -- was more like
58:45
a formality for me. Is that right? Yeah.
58:47
Alright. Here we go. I yeah. I listen,
58:49
I get it, guys. But my dad is going to be mad
58:51
when I get home. So you can arrest me or
58:53
whatever, but let
58:54
me thank you. We know disappointed.
58:55
Yeah. We know what the real problem here is.
58:57
And the 778 is I would never
59:00
have gotten a second one. And if I had,
59:02
like, six months in prison for the first
59:04
one, I think that would be excessive as hell. Right.
59:06
Right. I think for most people probably generally
59:08
with the first time. But Right. If you still
59:11
continue to then drink and
59:13
drive, I think that --
59:15
Right. -- that's that's when there should be, like,
59:18
pretty steeply rising judgment. I'm
59:20
just 778 and that a I that speaks
59:23
to my point of the arbitrariness of
59:25
six months. Look
59:27
at all the conversation we had and
59:29
then and but the idea that that
59:31
that some asshole, some asshole and
59:34
8 other assholes 778 to be like,
59:36
six months is a major one. 778
59:38
us having any
59:39
say? That's crazy.
59:40
I don't know.
59:41
We live in a crazy fucking place.
59:43
I I get what you're saying. 778 abstractly, I
59:46
can't agree with you, but functionally, I think
59:48
that maybe it works. Maybe
59:52
maybe I don't know. Well,
59:54
you look. We may always disagree on that.
59:57
I think think that there are massive
59:59
overhauls of the justice system that definitely
1:00:01
need to happen. And maybe that
1:00:04
one isn't super high up
1:00:06
on the list.
1:00:07
Maybe. I
1:00:08
mean, abolishing the supreme court is. That's
1:00:11
a large that's a large fish.
1:00:13
I'm not trying to I'm not trying to goat
1:00:15
you. Look. To goat you. This
1:00:18
report is a whole other
1:00:20
issue than whether or not you should have
1:00:22
a jury trial for something 8 would
1:00:24
be three months 778.
1:00:25
Okay. So while you put it that way.
1:00:27
Sure. Anyway,
1:00:31
I was really excited -- Yeah. -- for
1:00:34
Bruce to show up. Yeah. Because I
1:00:37
thought, you
1:00:39
know, these guys are clearly on different
1:00:41
pages. Yeah. You know, this is going
1:00:43
to be a very interesting conversation
1:00:46
of a 778 progressive
1:00:49
activist who has clear principles
1:00:52
surrounding a number of issues that Alex has a
1:00:54
big problem
1:00:54
with. Yeah. I'm thinking of Bill Airs. I'm
1:00:56
thinking of reducts. Reducts of
1:00:59
Bill Airs. Do that that whole, like, little 778
1:01:01
tacked back and forth where Bill Ayers is
1:01:02
unflappable. Yeah.
1:01:03
But the difference would be that Alex
1:01:05
went into the conversation with Bill Ayers
1:01:08
knowing it would be at the second
1:01:09
day. Yeah. Yeah. And this one
1:01:12
might be something that catches him off guard.
1:01:14
Mhmm. Unfortunately,
1:01:15
this does not come to pass. Before
1:01:18
we go to Robert and John and others
1:01:20
that are patiently holding and we do have
1:01:23
the 778 778 joining
1:01:26
us in the third
1:01:29
hour,
1:01:30
and you did not wanna miss Bob Chapman because
1:01:32
he made amazing predictions,
1:01:33
all of his last
1:01:34
three years on this show. And, unfortunately,
1:01:37
they've all come 778, all of all of
1:01:39
predictions. I don't even know if I can believe
1:01:41
these, but oh, well, it's amazing.
1:01:43
He's got a great track record. So we'll go
1:01:45
over with Bob Chapman. All 778
1:01:48
Liberal friend who was evicted
1:01:52
778 for protesting. The judge says, yeah,
1:01:54
you can't protest the president with
1:01:56
with folks 778 support him on a public 778. Brett
1:02:00
Burnsey was real paranoid when we talked
1:02:02
to him yesterday and
1:02:03
well, let's just talk radio. Well, I'm
1:02:05
not gonna get, you know, ambushed on the show.
1:02:08
No,
1:02:08
sir. You're not. Go to the website to look at
1:02:10
him. You know, we've been calling and calling
1:02:12
his phone's busy. You know, he may have
1:02:15
the wrong time now and that happens sometimes
1:02:18
when a guest doesn't show
1:02:19
up, which is quite rare for the show.
1:02:21
I get the sense that he probably looked into --
1:02:23
Yeah. -- looks little bit and was like, had
1:02:25
no way. No
1:02:27
way. I okay. This is
1:02:29
778 Radio. And what he said
1:02:31
to assuage my fear was
1:02:33
go look at my at his
1:02:34
website. I go to prison planet dot com.
1:02:36
Fuck this man. I would
1:02:38
assume that that was a
1:02:40
a radio
1:02:43
guest ghostie. Yep.
1:02:46
Because phone's busy. You can't
1:02:48
imagine if you're him that this
1:02:50
is going to Even like I
1:02:52
like I said, even if you agree on
1:02:54
the bottom line issue -- Yeah. -- this is
1:02:56
not,
1:02:56
like, serving your 778. Yeah.
1:03:01
This is not something where there's going to be common
1:03:03
cause found that that's meaningful. This
1:03:05
isn't an ally of
1:03:06
yours. The only
1:03:06
way to win is not to play. Yeah. Yeah.
1:03:08
And I I find that a little
1:03:10
bit disappointing for my entertainment 778.
1:03:13
Yeah. But it's also kind of like,
1:03:15
if you assume which mean,
1:03:17
maybe it's a big assumption because I haven't listened to
1:03:19
the next day's shows or
1:03:20
anything. Sure. Who knows? Maybe shows up on the
1:03:22
next day? Maybe his was a time
1:03:24
zone issue.
1:03:25
Yeah. But you you assume that
1:03:27
he learned a little bit more and was
1:03:29
like, I don't want anything to do with this. That is
1:03:31
the opposite of
1:03:32
disappointing. Yeah. That is, like, guess.
1:03:34
No. That's
1:03:34
good on you. That is good 778. I was I
1:03:36
was just thinking that reinforces my
1:03:39
like of this man. I I appreciate
1:03:41
if he's if he's got that under his belt
1:03:43
778. Damn. This guy's got it. At the
1:03:45
same time, his history does seem
1:03:47
to have a lot of willingness to
1:03:49
be in places of confrontation. So
1:03:53
Yep. You know, painful confrontation. That's
1:03:55
a good point. Yeah. 778 that a really
1:03:57
good point? This would be very trivial
1:03:59
and pointless. 778. Wow, man. This
1:04:01
guy's got it. So anyway, Bob Chapman's
1:04:03
gonna be coming up. Sure. Bob Chapman,
1:04:06
of
1:04:06
course, for our folks who have not listened
1:04:08
to a lot of these. 778 news really
1:04:10
her
1:04:10
778 to do that a while. Yeah. He
1:04:13
is someone who is a weekly guest
1:04:15
of Alex's in the two thousand eight, two thousand
1:04:17
nine time frame. He is a guy
1:04:19
who is a gold
1:04:22
salesman. He is shameful
1:04:26
and shameless, gold promoter. He
1:04:29
works day profit. He works with
1:04:31
Alex's main sponsor,
1:04:33
the Midas Resources, who
1:04:35
sell gold, Bob promotes the gold
1:04:37
and tells people they should go to Midas Resources.
1:04:40
He is also a flagrant racist
1:04:42
-- Sure. -- and made his
1:04:45
778 off apartheid gold.
1:04:47
Hey. What what who you Living
1:04:50
I I can't even joke about not excuse
1:04:52
lives in anesthesia for a while. Yeah. That
1:04:54
guy could go fucking He has a
1:04:57
778, right, called the 778 Forecaster
1:04:59
-- Sure. -- that is supposed to be about
1:05:02
finances and 778. Right? It fears into
1:05:05
pretty racist territory from time
1:05:07
to
1:05:07
time. I thought an archive of that and it is
1:05:09
grim. The
1:05:10
history of money is pretty racist. This
1:05:12
is 778 thing. Oh, okay. So,
1:05:14
anyway, Bob is coming up. Uh-huh. And
1:05:17
before we get to that, we get another call.
1:05:19
This is interesting because this guy is a big old sovereign
1:05:22
citizen. Sure. And Alex pushes
1:05:24
back on
1:05:24
him. Okay? But not for the reason you'd think.
1:05:27
There are no citizens in 778. No
1:05:29
Texas citizen. No 778 citizen.
1:05:31
They're either one of the three categories that just
1:05:34
question. Alright. Well, let me just
1:05:36
tell you this. You go declare yourself
1:05:38
with a sheriff and everybody a citizen
1:05:40
of your county
1:05:41
8. Let let me finish. They're gonna take you to
1:05:43
jail still. They're gonna charge you in their same system.
1:05:46
Okay. Here's the thing. You
1:05:48
have to go through a three step process. So I
1:05:50
been doing this for ten years, and I've heard
1:05:52
all this, and I've watched it. And let me tell you
1:05:54
something. It
1:05:55
does. Not work. It's
1:05:57
it's about to work. There's a gentleman name of
1:05:59
John Jennings 778 in the process in Florida
1:06:01
778 doing it is already won the case,
1:06:04
not an at lock card, not a case lock
1:06:06
778, in a state card. An in law
1:06:08
778 where you're dealing with laws
1:06:11
8 by state legislators not by
1:06:13
a judge presiding at the bench.
1:06:15
You see a difference right now. You want No.
1:06:18
You want Sir, appreciate your call. You
1:06:20
you you you know what I'll do? Do you? I'll
1:06:22
do some shows on the Federal Reserve. I'll do some
1:06:24
shows on the fourteenth amendment. I'll do some
1:06:26
shows on common law and and the and
1:06:28
the incorporation of the 8 and the
1:06:30
incorporation of the 778 of Columbia. But
1:06:33
by leave me, and I'm not mad at your caller. It's
1:06:35
it's good points you're making. 778 eight
1:06:37
percent of people listening do not even know what
1:06:39
you were talking about. And we
1:06:41
can't just sit here on one call and go over
1:06:43
this. 778, you know,
1:06:45
it gets into 778 law, maritime
1:06:48
jurisdiction, which is the Patriot which
1:06:51
is what they're
1:06:51
saying. Now trying to replace
1:06:54
the constitution, the organic law,
1:06:56
the stuff that comes
1:06:57
out. Sorry. 778? Accardo
1:06:58
in twelve fourteen and
1:06:59
the magnifying eye, you know,
1:07:02
thousands of years ago, three thousand years ago
1:07:05
with Moses and the 778 Commandments. That's
1:07:07
why they're trying to remove the
1:07:09
foundation of 778 law
1:07:12
that came out of
1:07:13
Israel. They're trying to remove
1:07:15
that now and put in Roman civil
1:07:17
law. I'm sorry. 778?
1:07:20
Yeah. What? Yeah. Don't
1:07:22
you know that? What? Yeah.
1:07:25
778? Yeah. What? Yeah.
1:07:28
Dan. Yeah. Dan. 778?
1:07:31
It's clear. They're
1:07:35
trying to get rid of the 778,
1:07:37
which has been passed by Ricardo, but I
1:07:39
way of the 778 command --
1:07:40
No. -- to come out cyanide. Where's
1:07:42
the where's Hamiravi in of that. He's
1:07:44
not in the mix. He's he's
1:07:46
on the team of the Roman bases
1:07:49
all over
1:07:50
again. Yeah. So they're trying to replace this
1:07:52
with Roman -- Sure. -- law.
1:07:54
Roman civil law.
1:07:55
Yep. I
1:07:58
mean, it's tough. Does anyone
1:08:00
have a law degree in Roman civil law?
1:08:02
I
1:08:02
can tell you Alex doesn't. I don't think
1:08:04
he does. So
1:08:06
yeah. The issue here
1:08:09
is that Alex agrees.
1:08:11
Yes. That is a problem. With
1:08:13
these sovereign citizen types and this
1:08:16
guy. And he might might even believe in stuff
1:08:18
that is outside of that
1:08:21
778 the that that whole notion
1:08:24
of, like, the divine
1:08:27
backing of the constitution -- That kind
1:08:29
of --
1:08:29
Yeah. -- that that area of I
1:08:33
hesitate call scholarship, but
1:08:36
778 area of people writing things.
1:08:38
That area of things that can be read
1:08:40
with ice. Yeah.
1:08:42
Yeah. So Alex is fine with that.
1:08:44
His problem is, like, dude, this doesn't work.
1:08:46
Yeah. It does appear that that is the issue.
1:08:49
Not that it's wrong.
1:08:50
Yeah. That 778 impractical. Yeah. Yeah.
1:08:52
It's not that
1:08:53
it's made up fantasy land. It's this
1:08:55
stuff is real and you're totally
1:08:57
right.
1:08:57
But the
1:08:58
people in control have guns and
1:09:00
they won't let you be a
1:09:02
free person on the land. Right. Right.
1:09:05
I mean, they do see the issue there. Right?
1:09:07
Like, the combination of those two things
1:09:09
means that it doesn't really matter
1:09:12
if they're right or not.
1:09:15
778 does seem to indicate that
1:09:17
there is not power in being right. That's
1:09:19
a good point. Yeah. Yeah.
1:09:23
That was that was a little bit upsetting.
1:09:26
I mean, we know that Alex is basically --
1:09:28
Yeah. -- quite a sovereign citizen
1:09:31
adjacent -- Mhmm. -- or 778
1:09:33
in it. But 778
1:09:36
sucks to have this guy who's who's somebody
1:09:39
who You know, there's a there's a decent chance you
1:09:41
could push back on some points that he's making. But instead
1:09:44
778 you,
1:09:44
like, it just doesn't work. It doesn't work. You're
1:09:46
totally right. Okay. Guess what? You're screwed.
1:09:48
You know what? That raises a question.
1:09:51
Is it possible to hold
1:09:53
within your mind? The idea
1:09:55
of truth being everything
1:09:58
that everyone does all day every
1:10:00
day is one hundred percent unconstitutional
1:10:02
and 778 the same time live within
1:10:05
that society. Without harm
1:10:07
or trouble? Or is
1:10:09
it gotta be one or the other? I think it's one
1:10:11
or the other, and that's why Alex
1:10:14
has lived so long because his beliefs
1:10:16
are nonsensical and he doesn't really believe
1:10:18
them. Right. At least most of
1:10:20
them. Right. And that's that's why he can
1:10:22
not raise an army. Against -- He's
1:10:24
a k walker.
1:10:25
-- he can have all
1:10:28
this shit that he talks about and not raise
1:10:30
an army against the courts -- Right. -- or
1:10:32
whatever. Or
1:10:32
wind up Bill Coopering himself. Yeah.
1:10:35
Yep.
1:10:35
Yep. And make a lot of money. Nah.
1:10:37
So anyway, speaking of money, Bob Chapman shows
1:10:40
up for
1:10:40
sure. He has some financial predictions 778
1:10:43
gonna go great. Bob, what
1:10:45
is the new world order? What are they doing
1:10:47
financially? What do you see happening in
1:10:49
the near term and the long
1:10:50
term? Well, let's will continue down
1:10:53
another forty percent versus the
1:10:56
dollar index as well as the euro
1:10:58
whether the Europeans like it or not.
1:11:00
And 778 been overpriced for a long, long
1:11:03
time. The price of
1:11:05
gold this year will easily go over to
1:11:07
five dollars five twelve dollars an ounce,
1:11:09
could very grow go to six eighty or
1:11:11
eight forty for that matter depending upon
1:11:14
what happens.
1:11:15
Bob is very wrong. Gold
1:11:17
peaked at about four fifty six
1:11:19
an ounce in early December 778 thousand
1:11:22
four far short of his low
1:11:24
end prediction. Yeah. It's a fair amount
1:11:26
of the year under four hundred even.
1:11:28
Bob's close to right about the dollar though,
1:11:31
but his numbers are a bit off. In
1:11:33
778, he's correct though that the dollar did drop in
1:11:35
two thousand four, but that was already part of
1:11:37
a trend that that had been going on for, like, the
1:11:39
past year. So it's hard to give him a lot of credit
1:11:42
for that. Yeah. But he's not far off 778
1:11:44
for the he's flagrantly wrong
1:11:46
about gold -- Yeah. -- which
1:11:48
makes sense. He's a gold
1:11:51
sales of him. I mean, I don't understand
1:11:53
why financial media of
1:11:55
this type even exists because it
1:11:58
can't be anything other than self motivated
1:12:01
or self involved
1:12:02
You know? Yeah. You'd have to
1:12:04
have people who No.
1:12:09
You 778 do it. Yeah. You literally can
1:12:11
there's no possible way to altruistically
1:12:14
predict that things will get 778.
1:12:17
Well, you know, or like the okay.
1:12:19
I am predicting that the price of the dollar
1:12:21
will go
1:12:22
up. And I'm doing that not because
1:12:24
I have any involvement at all, but because
1:12:26
I want you to get more money
1:12:29
out of it. Here's what it doesn't even make sense. You'd
1:12:31
need monks. You'd You would need monks?
1:12:33
Yeah. You would need people who
1:12:36
study the financial
1:12:38
stuff and all that -- Mhmm. --
1:12:40
and have sworn off
1:12:43
any kind of material
1:12:44
possessions. They have their lungs
1:12:47
cut out. Food is paid for or
1:12:48
whatever they're they're taken care of, but
1:12:50
not by anything that could be
1:12:52
affected by the financial
1:12:54
system. Cannot be corrupted, by
1:12:56
scandal or anything along those lines.
1:12:58
Yes. I think that that's impossible to attain.
1:13:01
Problem. But the next best thing, I think,
1:13:03
would be 778 take financial advice from someone
1:13:05
who sells gold. Yep. Don't take Bitcoin
1:13:08
advice from someone who sells bitcoin. 778
1:13:10
booth. Just go
1:13:12
ahead. Don't get into the stock market. It 778 people
1:13:14
from the stock market say it's a good idea. Yeah.
1:13:16
Be wary of advice from people who
1:13:18
are suspiciously biased.
1:13:22
If someone tells you 778 to
1:13:24
do with your money because it will make
1:13:26
their lives better.
1:13:28
Just stop for a second and think. Yeah. Maybe it's
1:13:30
Maybe they're lying about it helping you a lot. Yeah.
1:13:32
Maybe you should try and help somebody else's
1:13:34
life. Yeah. I don't know. So we got one last
1:13:36
clip here, and it's
1:13:37
Bob making more bad predictions.
1:13:39
The first thing I've got to tell people is, please,
1:13:42
get out of debt. I know you have to have a house, get
1:13:44
the tax write off, but everything else clear
1:13:46
it out, and then you move 778 gold coins
1:13:48
and once you've done 778, you move into gold shares.
1:13:51
And at the end of the of the road
1:13:53
here, we're up a gold and silver going to,
1:13:55
you may not want want to sell what
1:13:57
you have in exchange for
1:13:59
fiat currency?
1:14:03
When gold. I've been
1:14:05
buying gold for three years and it's all increasing
1:14:08
value, whether I bought it at two
1:14:10
fifty or three fifty. 778 and
1:14:13
people aren't calling me saying, you 778 sell
1:14:15
that gold? And, no, I don't.
1:14:18
We've
1:14:18
got long way to go. I mean, this
1:14:20
is we have finish phase one or three
1:14:22
phases. Gold is going over
1:14:24
three thousand dollars an ounce, where silver gold
1:14:26
is hard to say, but it could easily go
1:14:28
to back back to a high end in the 778, fifty
1:14:31
dollar
1:14:31
area, perhaps even to a hundred
1:14:33
because they're
1:14:34
just visiting out there. Now you're saying five
1:14:36
hundred by the end of the year? Easily.
1:14:38
And then where is this
1:14:40
three thousand mark?
1:14:42
That's probably an 00506.
1:14:47
Bold.
1:14:48
So okay. So in the next
1:14:50
twelve months -- Mhmm. -- it will increase by
1:14:52
about ten to twenty five percent.
1:14:55
And then in the next twelve months, it will increase
1:14:57
by eight thousand percent. It's
1:15:00
it's ambitious.
1:15:01
So gold did continue to go up a bit, but
1:15:03
these numbers are insane. Gold
1:15:06
peaked at about seven twenty in two
1:15:08
thousand six before dropping back to five
1:15:10
fifty and then bouncing back at end
1:15:12
of the year ending up around
1:15:14
six thirty five. These numbers
1:15:17
that Bob is saying are outrageous and
1:15:19
it's hard to imagine them being predicted by someone
1:15:22
who wasn't a goal salesman pretending to be a forecast.
1:15:24
Yeah. This is I
1:15:28
I don't know how you could look at this and think
1:15:31
this is
1:15:31
responsible. I I mean III
1:15:34
the only thing that you could even try and say
1:15:36
778, like, oh, you get it. They they're joking.
1:15:38
They're it's an entertainment show. That's it. That's
1:15:41
as good as it gets because beyond 778, if you take
1:15:43
him seriously, he's stealing from
1:15:45
you. He's a thief. He's committing fraud.
1:15:47
Well, here's here's the interesting wrinkle.
1:15:49
778 this point. So when we've heard Bob
1:15:52
in two thousand eight, two thousand and nine,
1:15:54
it's very regularly he
1:15:56
sets it up and then they knock it down Right.
1:15:58
-- sales pitch for Midas Resources. Or
1:16:01
he's like, you can get my newsletter,
1:16:03
my forecaster newsletter and
1:16:06
call Minus Resources, they'll give you a free
1:16:08
piece of silver along with your first issue. Right.
1:16:10
Right. Right. 778 isn't the case. In
1:16:13
two thousand three. I don't know if
1:16:15
he is intimately related with Midas
1:16:17
Resources and Ted Anderson at this point,
1:16:19
but he is not throwing
1:16:22
it to a Midas plug or
1:16:25
linking his newsletter
1:16:26
with Midas. Okay. So there is
1:16:28
still, like, very aligned
1:16:31
interests
1:16:31
-- Mhmm. -- of Alex being syndicated
1:16:34
by a gold salesman and Bob
1:16:36
making comical predictions about
1:16:38
gold. Yeah. They're still that,
1:16:40
but it's not as overt. Yeah.
1:16:42
It's not maybe
1:16:45
this is still in the, like, period
1:16:47
where they're feeling it out, the the 778.
1:16:50
Yeah. I mean, it could be like a it could
1:16:52
be like a wire thing, you know. You don't want the
1:16:54
you don't want the the kids who
1:16:56
get the drugs. They're not the kids who
1:16:58
give the drugs. You know, they're not the
1:17:00
kids who take the money. Every everybody's got
1:17:02
separate job
1:17:03
Right. Right. The the you have
1:17:06
the drugs under a rock. Right. Right.
1:17:08
The runners and the yeah. Yeah. But
1:17:10
it all gets sort of blown
1:17:12
up that game by two thousand
1:17:14
eight, two thousand nine, because it is the same kid
1:17:17
-- Yeah. --
1:17:17
delivering the drugs. They were like, oh,
1:17:19
nobody's nobody's company. No. Cares.
1:17:22
I don't know. I think that there is a decent
1:17:24
chance that they're not as intimately involved
1:17:27
as as like clear partnership at
1:17:30
this point.
1:17:30
Oh, no. Maybe in the next year, it's like Ted
1:17:33
Ted is
1:17:34
like, oh, hell
1:17:34
yeah. Get in here. You're on our team. Yeah. This
1:17:36
gonna make 778 total star predictions.
1:17:39
One fucking hundred percent You're a genius.
1:17:41
Yeah. One
1:17:41
hundred 778. I would I would see him as
1:17:43
like a business opportunity if I were to. Yeah.
1:17:45
That makes sense. Yeah. And so I'm interested
1:17:48
in, you know, these things that are happening in two
1:17:50
thousand three 778 thousand four
1:17:52
now. Mhmm. I I'm interested in
1:17:54
this as another thread to watch,
1:17:57
because a number of the people that
1:17:59
we know from our time and if wars
1:18:01
are 778, you know,
1:18:03
like 778 hadn't been around in two thousand three.
1:18:05
Mhmm. So now we can see how he
1:18:07
grows as a figure, getting to the
1:18:09
point where he's a weekly guest. Right.
1:18:12
See where that happens along the line. Mhmm.
1:18:14
There's still other figures who are, like,
1:18:16
major characters who are, like, where are
1:18:18
they? Like, Steve Pajenick, hasn't shown
1:18:20
up. I 778 find out where he shows up
1:18:23
and he hit this period. I know. What kind of swings
1:18:25
does he give
1:18:25
him? I we 778 have been lost tonight.
1:18:28
778 if he starts 778, I because
1:18:30
here's because here's what you would expect.
1:18:32
Right? If this were normal thing, he starts
1:18:34
out with some light cuts. No.
1:18:36
You know, he starts out and then works his way
1:18:38
up. No. I if it's Steve, I
1:18:40
have to hope that he starts out higher
1:18:43
up than anything we've even thought
1:18:45
of. He's gonna in. He's, like, sixteen
1:18:47
days from now. There's gonna be a counter
1:18:49
cool instill a little
1:18:50
bit, 778, and we're gonna put to 778 trump
1:18:52
and off.
1:18:53
It's got to be it's gotta be
1:18:55
something that fucking incredible.
1:18:57
What if he does?
1:18:58
What if he'd be amazing? 778 be amazing.
1:19:00
I want Of
1:19:01
of all the of all things that would prove
1:19:03
the simulation -- Yeah. -- is real. Whatever
1:19:05
it is, I want to
1:19:07
find that. I want to find his episodes.
1:19:10
Yeah. And it's really hard. There's no, like,
1:19:12
listing anywhere of, like,
1:19:14
guests and when they were on and
1:19:16
778. So it's really just turn
1:19:19
it on see if he's see if he's there.
1:19:21
And I guarantee you when
1:19:24
he finally shows up. When I 778 on
1:19:26
an episode and was like, 778, god. State
1:19:29
778 on today, I'm going to run
1:19:31
through a wall. It's like it's
1:19:33
going to be real
1:19:36
built up. Yeah. Anyway, We
1:19:38
come to the end of this. We're closer -- Yes.
1:19:40
-- to where we need to be for the
1:19:42
lives. And
1:19:42
we're so close to Yeah. I'm
1:19:44
very excited we do have some mentions of Howard
1:19:46
Dean -- Mhmm. -- which is, you know, the ball
1:19:49
is rolling. Yep. And that's
1:19:51
called foreshadowing. Yeah. That He's a
1:19:53
snake. 8 him.
1:19:56
So we will get we will we will make
1:19:58
our progress through there. And we will discuss
1:20:01
the Iowa
1:20:01
primary. The caucus. So
1:20:04
funny. It's so funny to go back to
1:20:06
this time period 778 a bunch of idiots
1:20:09
everybody in two thousand three should shut up
1:20:11
and stop.
1:20:12
If they only knew. Yeah. But if they
1:20:14
only knew be a podcast twenty
1:20:16
years from now 778 how everyone in twenty
1:20:19
twenty three should shut
1:20:20
up. You know? I know and I agree
1:20:22
with that show. So let's shut
1:20:24
up. Well, until next time.
1:20:26
Oh. Next week.
1:20:29
And until that time, we have a website.
1:20:31
Indeed,
1:20:31
we do. It's 778 right dot com. Yeah. We'll also
1:20:34
put up a link to the fundraiser in
1:20:36
the description of this episode. So
1:20:38
if you'd like to chip
1:20:39
in, that would be wonderful. 778 we're also
1:20:41
on Twitter. We
1:20:42
are on Twitter. We are on Twitter to acknowledge and underscore fight. Yep.
1:20:44
Over the back. 778 until then, I'm NIO. I'm
1:20:46
Leo. I'm DZX Cork. I
1:20:48
look. I know it's getting annoying, but this is the best
1:20:50
drop in the
1:20:51
world. Oh, you know what? And
1:20:53
now here comes with
1:20:54
the sex robots.
1:20:55
Andy and Kansas here on the earth. Thanks for holding.
1:20:59
Hello, Alex. I'm my first time caller. I'm a
1:21:01
huge fan. I love your work. I love you.
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