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So I cried on the internet,
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and there's a conversation. I've talked
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about it a while ago. I talked
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about it with michaela On here. So
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I think people call the relationship between
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people and their followers a paris
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social relationship, but
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I guess it's this different type of social relationship
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where you don't really know the people. And
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so when I first came on TikTok
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a long time ago, more
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than even Instagram, I would see people
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really emoting and crying about their skin,
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about their life, about their weight, about their
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loneliness, about their depression or anxiety.
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And I felt that sometimes
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that seemed dangerous.
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I thought that it seemed like, if
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you're doing it too much, you're kind of using these
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followers as your therapists,
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and some this boomerang
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can smack you, like a therapist is not
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only professionally trained, but
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they're there to support and listen. Sometimes
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people can really sting
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you on social media. So you could be
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crying about something and one day they have compassion
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for you and they're telling you everything you want to hear, and
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we're here for you. And then you do something wrong
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and unlike your therapist or your parents
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or your family, they're going to like come back
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and cancel you. So
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that's why it's a unique relationship and why I
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don't really advocate for people like all
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the time going
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on social media to treat your
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followers like your therapists
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or like your best friends or like your family, because
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the pendulum can swing and in a way that
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unconditional love family members
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wouldn't. And of course unconditional love
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family members can can, you know, cut
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you off, and there can be extreme
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circumstances. But by in law, you can make mistakes
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and tell people that you know that you messed up,
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and they will be a nice cushion
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for you. This is an environment where it could
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be oh
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my god, we support you, we love you. And
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also sometimes people like when someone's not happy
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and like they want you to be down, and then once you get
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happy, they're not. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that goes on because
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these are not professional So I
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don't really emote that much. I'll
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communicate and express,
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but I don't really emote, and I haven't really cried
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on the internet, and I have sometimes cringe when I've
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seen people do it, and I've done it on reality
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TV, and it's a cousin of this too, because
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it's a similar situation, and then there's
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an edited situation which is more scary. But
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after experiencing the loss of my mother and
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some traumatic events, I
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chose to post something that I thought was fascinating
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because before my mother passed away, I
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was really I just had sort of an
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emotional breakdown. I
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just was I just was not doing that
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great. Like I just wasn't
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feeling right, I was feeling unsettled, I
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was feeling not balanced. And I
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recorded this short video during
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a period of that, saying like I
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don't want I'm not I'm not doing that great,
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and like I basically need to
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stop. I need to stop this meaning social
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media. I need to stop
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working the way that I've worked. And I just I
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just it was not long. It was just very brief. It
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was just like a break and I said, I probably won't
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have the courage to post this and it's a little embarrassing.
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And then I was looking through my drafts today
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because I haven't been posting at all
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really on social media, very very minimal since
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my mother passed, and said, since I've been going through
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it and experiencing and not wanting to
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distract and divert because social media, when people
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say doom scrolling, you're diverting, You're
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just it's eating junk food, you're just watching crap
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to like just yourself. And I
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really have chosen, as I've talked to you about
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grief, the method of going through
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this stuff, so not like just taking the easy way out
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and not really medicating, not distracting,
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not going out, not you know, doing
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other things to distract. And so I
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was looked today and saw that video and
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I posted it saying how crazy
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that this is right before my mother passed
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away. And it was interesting because I
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really do believe in energy and signs and
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things like it's almost like your body,
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you know your body, or the temperature
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outside, or like there's her there's actually
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earthquake weather, like people in
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La I remember there used to be earthquake weather, Like
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it's so nice right before crazy earthquake.
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Or you can feel like the swell
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before hurricane or before like
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the ocean you could tell when a storm is coming.
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I feel like we feel that emotionally. And it
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was weird that I was just crying and I was like having
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an undefined, unspecified
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emotional experience. And then my mother passed
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away, and so I posted it today because I
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wanted to not only post when things
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are perfect. This should not be a habit of
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me just crying into the internet. But by the same token,
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I think that we should not always
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make it like things are perfect.
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Now. Forget the fact that people are showing filters
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and their perfect lives and their perfect vacations
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and their expensive bags despite maybe them being
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broke. They're bragging only about the good in a relationship.
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Despite the fact that social media is now a commercial
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marketplace. It is a television
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show is everything is for sale,
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and people are selling things even when you don't know
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they're selling things. People are finaggling
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and shady about the way they're doing it, and they're not
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saying that they're a partner, they're not saying
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that they're paid. But
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it goes so much deeper and so much
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more layer than that. So
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now you're on social media and treating it as like
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your friend and like your therapist and all this.
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So I think there has to be a balance between
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being authentic there and also just not overusing
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it. It shouldn't be a place to live, and a lot of people
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that are these influencers they're gonna be like child
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Stars, where it's gonna run out
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one day. This is not going to go on forever, and there
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are gonna be some emotional ramifications. It's
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just sometimes too raw and too real
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to be expressing and emoting all day
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all the time. So I think I'm developing a better
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relationship with it. Also, I just don't want to do
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it that often, and I want to live
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in what I'm actually feeling and not It's
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a great distraction, and the pandemic
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again made us insular, made
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us in our pajamas, gave us
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license to stay home and to connect
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with people that are, in many cases strangers.
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You get a familiarity with certain people, but
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they're not you know, they're not your best friends.
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And people expect something from you. Once you become
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an influencer or a famous person. People expect you're
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going to tell us about your money, your sex life,
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your relationship. You didn't tell us this,
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what's going on with that? Like as if they're
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owed something, And it's like you want to say
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to the people that are they're like, okay with you. Tell
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me how much? How many times a week you fuck your husband?
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What's in your bank account? How much do you make a
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year? You know, people are very very intrusive in
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a way that your own therapist will be
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a little more patient,
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thoughtful, all of that. So I think that's
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an interesting conversation. Where's the line, where's
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the balance? How much to share? How much not to share? Should
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you cry? Should you not cry? Should you be filtering, should
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you be faking? Should you be showing only the good
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and not the bad? You know what? Should
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you be on there only to sell? And then it becomes,
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you know, it's just a commercial space.
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So for younger kids, they
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have to know how to navigate this. This is why it's been
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so insane with all the shit that they're
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buying. And these kids are literally
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they don't even know what they think. They're buying peel
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peel products on their face at eleven years old.
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It's why there's that problem. It's aphora. They don't
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even know what they're buying. They're just buying pretty colorful
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packaging and what's being marketed to them.
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I give my daughter a lip oil today from
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a very major viral brand because
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like, it's not good, but I just knew
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that she would want it because it has this big viral
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brand name on it, and it's not a good product. I don't
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care if it's from the drug store or if it's this viral
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name product. But the truth is she
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cares because they're so influenced more
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than when we were kids. More than when we were kids.
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It was around Christmas, you know, the Cabbage Patch
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dolls and that shit would come and everyone will be obsessed, and
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yes, I get that, but it wasn't every
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minute of every day. This is all these fucking
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kids want is what someone else told them
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to want. It's really insane.
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