0:12

So I get pregnant. And

0:14

my ex had said that

0:17

it was really important to him that

0:19

at my age, which was mid to

0:21

late thirties, that I should

0:24

want to start getting pregnant or thinking about

0:26

that. And you know, I'm a smart

0:28

businesswoman, and maybe it was just

0:30

out of love, but what

0:33

was the rush. I was launching a cocktail.

0:35

I was launching Skinny Girl. That's why I ended up

0:38

unexpectedly having a pregnant belly

0:40

and I'd have to go to liquor signings in

0:42

stores. I mean, I can only imagine what my partners

0:44

were saying when I had to have a

0:47

pregnant belly and go to liquor stores

0:49

because you're not even I was never allowed to take

0:51

a picture with the bottle on my signings because

0:53

I was pregnant. It was just not the ideal

0:56

time. And in my gut, I felt

0:58

the whole thing felt strange. And then we got

1:00

engaged during that time, and it's

1:02

just you know, in your gut when something just

1:04

feels off, but you

1:07

just keep you know, for people that feel

1:09

like when you're engaged, oh my god, or you're in

1:11

a relationship with someone you can't your

1:13

parents will be upset or then you're engaged and

1:16

everyone's expecting a wedding, and like you get

1:18

layered, and the more things that get added to it,

1:20

it seems more like you can never get

1:22

out. But if you feel like

1:24

you shouldn't be doing something in your gut, if

1:26

you don't know yes, it's no. And so many

1:29

times, from getting pregnant to getting

1:31

engaged to doing the show, like you just

1:33

keep on the road and so I don't know what you

1:35

think is going to get resolved, Like

1:37

you think it's you. You blame yourself, you're

1:39

flawed, you a million things that

1:41

happen. And so getting

1:44

pregnant, we almost broke

1:46

up many times, like I wanted to break up,

1:48

but there was it

1:52

was like fear and you're pregnant and you're doing the

1:54

show, and it was just and

1:56

I remember, I remember

1:59

I was at an

2:01

appearance and started bleeding

2:04

like a lot, and I

2:06

had to go on bed rest. And

2:09

my ex said his

2:11

parents who lived two hours away, were coming

2:14

in and they were coming over when I

2:16

was on bed rest, and I said, I don't

2:18

want to see anyone and I don't want to come over. And my ex

2:20

said to me, insisted

2:23

that they come, and I didn't want them

2:25

to come. I was on bed rest, and I felt like

2:27

this dynamic was being forced

2:30

on me, and this power struggle was being

2:32

pushed on me because I've read later

2:35

years later, I read that when

2:37

you're the moneyed spouse, it's

2:40

a common thing if the moneyed spouse

2:42

is a woman, that a man will feel

2:44

emasculated and they will

2:47

feel like they have to overcompensate in different

2:49

ways. And it's not something in the beginning. So when

2:51

we're in the restaurant and we're talking about I'm

2:53

buying the apartment and this person's going to buy the furniture,

2:56

or on vacation and I'm paying for all

2:58

of the air and the hotel,

3:00

but this person's paying incidentals in the

3:02

beginning, that all sounds logical. And you can be on

3:04

a talk show and you can have a therapist come out

3:06

and say, you know, ada had to handle that. Where

3:09

the man the manny you

3:11

know, in the relationship, both people, so

3:13

it's not awkward. Put money into the middle pot

3:15

and then all house you know, expenses

3:19

are paid through that, and they make it all

3:21

sound so logical, and they

3:24

because I listened to all of it and I did it. We had a

3:26

account over here, and then I'm

3:29

supposed to have my credit card to the

3:31

man in the relationship so he can be

3:33

the man at the table and he can pay versus

3:36

me paying, because that's going to be emasculating. And this is what

3:38

the people who used to come onto my talk show used to say. So

3:40

we tried all these things and it was still awkward.

3:43

It was awkward that I paid most of the rent. It was

3:45

awkward all these things. And then

3:47

there becomes this power struggle because

3:49

the person that you're in a relationship with resents

3:52

you for the career that you have. And

3:54

I'll never forget I was in my relationship and

3:56

we were discussing career and

3:59

my ex a trainer when I met him,

4:03

and also sold pharmaceuticals.

4:06

But when they used to

4:08

he used to say that he hadn't

4:11

found what he wanted to do with his life, where he hadn't

4:13

found his calling. He's the only

4:15

person in my entire life of fifty

4:17

three years on his planet that has ever said to me, well,

4:21

not everyone's like you,

4:23

You're lucky. And

4:25

I went bananas, like, no one's

4:28

ever accused me of being lucky versus

4:31

hard work. In my relationship, and so there

4:33

was a power struggle, and it would come out in different

4:35

ways that you wouldn't expect in any

4:37

women who are in relationships

4:39

with men that may feel emasculated,

4:41

or there's a disparity in income, or the woman is the

4:43

moneyed spouse. It would come

4:45

out in non ways that you would think. So I

4:48

was on a book tour and

4:50

I was six months pregnant, and I

4:55

I was exhausted, and I wanted to come home and miss

4:57

Texas I think it was, and I was excited

5:00

I would come home and

5:02

he said, and I said, let's just be together. Let's just be alone.

5:05

He said, no, my parents are coming in. It was a separate

5:07

time. His parents are coming And I said, right, but they lived

5:09

two hours away. Just cancel them. No, just

5:12

because you drop your tour doesn't

5:14

mean we're all going to change our plans. It wasn't for a holiday

5:17

or anything. And it was just like,

5:19

but I canceled the tour so I could be home with you. But

5:22

it had to be the power struggle, So like his

5:24

parents had to be forced on me. And

5:29

I had a decent, decent relationship

5:31

with them, and we would go there. He wanted to kind

5:33

of go there every other weekend, and I didn't want to go.

5:35

It would be we'd have to go there, or they'd come and

5:37

stay in our apartment two

5:39

bedroom on to pull out every other weekend,

5:41

and I didn't want

5:43

that. Like I didn't I never. That wasn't what was presented

5:46

to me. And you could have parents that live with you, and that's your own

5:48

choice. It wasn't what was discussed

5:50

in our dynamic, and it became very suffocating,

5:53

and it became very overwhelming, and

5:55

it seemed like it was an overcompensation, which

5:58

is totally understandable for a family

6:00

member that was lost in the relationship.

6:03

But when we went to see a therapist and

6:06

my ex divulged

6:08

that he never cried and

6:11

went right back to college when his brother passed

6:13

away, I thought that

6:16

was that was a flag to

6:18

me, like who doesn't cry when their sibling

6:20

passes away and goes right back to school like nothing happened.

6:23

I understand people want to go back. It just there

6:25

were things that made me question, like

6:30

a chip, like an emotional thing, like in

6:32

the relationship, and so on

6:34

many different occasions, there

6:36

would be these forces

6:41

of power, like

6:44

trying to insert power

6:46

in places where they don't seem like

6:49

I've learned this in a lot of therapy, where they seem like

6:51

they are necessary. And it's because

6:53

when someone is feeling powerless in

6:56

a relationship because of what they do for a living

6:58

or because of the amount of money they have compared to the other person,

7:01

therapists have said that they will try

7:03

to exert power in other

7:05

ways.

7:18

There was a time when we

7:21

had just bought a brand new apartment and

7:23

we had gone away for an appearance

7:25

I was doing in Atlantic City. My

7:27

ex's friend came and I'll never

7:29

forget it. He came up off the escalator and we did a fist

7:32

He did a fist pump or fist pound, whatever you do,

7:34

and he had a girl with him that was

7:36

blackout drunk. They had six Long Island

7:38

iced teas, they said, and they showed up to a casino

7:41

where I was doing an appearance at because they live

7:43

not far and she was blackout

7:46

and she started to pass out

7:49

in a sushi restaurant where we were eating,

7:51

and I stood up and had to take her to the

7:53

restroom. And I went to my

7:56

ex and said, like, this is not

7:58

like what the fuck? This is not acceptable,

8:00

Like this girl is blackout

8:03

and I'm horrified and we're this is I'm

8:05

working here, Like the guy was fine, the

8:07

girl was out of her mind. Like when

8:10

I say blackout, they had been at I think it

8:13

was like a sports game, like a baseball game

8:15

all day. I think it was they'd come from a sporting

8:17

event and been drinking all day, rolling

8:19

into Atlantic City and she was totally

8:21

passing out. And it was my responsibility because

8:24

he couldn't take her to whim's room to take her.

8:27

And I was feeling this albatross of this responsibility.

8:29

And then shortly thereafter, we

8:32

bought an apartment in New York City and

8:34

my ex and I was paying for more of the apartment,

8:37

and I think it was my credit that was on the lease.

8:39

And my ex said, when we went away, and I just

8:42

designed this apartment, and he

8:45

said that

8:47

they were going to stay in the apartment while we were

8:50

away, this particular couple, and I

8:52

said, absolutely not. The reason I bring this up

8:54

is this became a massive fight, so much so that

8:56

I remember it, you know, fifteen years

8:58

later, because it was a massive fight and it

9:00

felt like and it was that same conversation over

9:03

and over about the power struggle after

9:05

I sold my my business and

9:08

made all this money and wanted to

9:10

get an apartment downtown, and I wanted

9:13

to use a person who

9:16

specialized in downtown. And I'm sorry,

9:19

it was my money. It was money that I earned. And

9:21

my ex verbally

9:24

abused me because I

9:26

didn't want to use his friend, who

9:29

he had told me previously had

9:31

a been very

9:33

close to losing his job. B

9:37

He didn't respect the way this guy

9:39

was doing his job, and he gave different examples, like he's

9:42

dumb examples. He was like, I don't know why he doesn't try to send

9:44

a car for someone when they're looking or he's

9:46

on the verge of losing his job. So he had a friend

9:48

that was a very good friend. In fairness to him, it was

9:50

a very good friend, and he was a very good, loyal friend.

9:52

And this guy, who he said was not doing

9:55

that great was an Upper

9:57

east Side real estate agent. Now, you

10:00

specialize in your area, and

10:03

when we were looking not on the Upper east Side, we were

10:05

looking downtown in Tribeca.

10:07

The first money I ever made in my entire life, I was

10:10

pretty much broke to my late

10:12

thirties. Now I made my first money

10:14

ever in my life. I was buying an apartment. I

10:17

didn't want to use a real estate broker

10:20

that had had issues

10:22

keeping their position and wasn't making like their quota

10:25

or whatever it is you have to make a certain amount of certain sales,

10:27

and also didn't specialize in

10:30

Tribeca. That felt to me like a fairly fair

10:34

business reasoning.

10:37

My ex went crazy an

10:39

exertion of the power struggle because

10:42

he was feeling emasculated because it was my money

10:44

and I wasn't willing to compromise

10:47

and use a person

10:49

who doesn't know the area and

10:51

has had no history of selling everything in

10:53

that area. But this was like a knockdown

10:55

dragon. And there were these fights that I remember because

10:58

it felt like there was a disparity

11:00

in the power and like you

11:02

were being sort of I felt a little bullied

11:05

because I wasn't doing what he wanted me to

11:07

do. In situations where I felt like

11:09

I was pregnant, I was on bed rest, I

11:13

felt like I had just picked a girl

11:15

up off a bathroom floor who was passing out and who

11:17

was blackout, and

11:19

I was supposed to and I was supposed to be okay with

11:21

the fact a that we were at an appearance, and this is

11:24

who his friend brought. I was

11:26

embarrassed, and I thought, like, I'm getting paid

11:28

for this appearance, and I can't have people like passing out a casino.

11:30

It's a liability. And then that I was supposed to want

11:32

those people to stay in my apartment, That

11:35

I was supposed to want his parents to come stay at our apartment

11:37

when I was bleeding and I was on bed rest, and

11:39

that now I was supposed to use his friend's

11:42

realtor because

11:44

it's his friend and he's loyal, but it's his and

11:46

I know we're married, and it's our money. It's not our money.

11:49

It's not really our money, and we can't to find that later

11:51

in a divorce we can say it's our money,

11:54

but not men who have a

11:56

billion dollars, who've been working for forty years

11:58

and the woman's been supporting him the whole way through. They

12:00

don't think it's the woman's money

12:02

either in many cases, and she's supported him

12:04

the whole way. Here we are a year and

12:07

it happened to know each other. I've gotten

12:09

pregnant before I wanted to my body

12:11

my choice. I'm stupid, and I will

12:14

never regret my daughter for one minute. But I get

12:16

pregnant while I'm launching a liquor brand six months into

12:19

a relationship. Okay, and

12:21

now I've got I'm gonna

12:23

spend five million dollars, the first money I've

12:25

ever spent. I'm terrified out of my mind. I'm supposed to just

12:27

use his friend, who he told me several things about

12:29

and doesn't specialize in this area. I felt like I

12:31

was like bullied and waterboarded and like flogged,

12:34

and like I was on a road I could not get

12:36

off of. It kept getting worse and kept

12:38

getting deeper. And then we're gonna

12:40

get into and I think we got into the prenup.

12:42

But the prenup was something that

12:45

my agent said I had to do. I didn't

12:47

want to do it. I said it last time. The Googo Gaga

12:50

and I signed what would later be called

12:52

by Alamif Skim Ronnie Chindel a

12:54

shitty prenup but better than not having one,

12:57

but a shitty prenup. And in fairness

12:59

to the lawyer who drew up, he's like, I cannot

13:01

in good faith, I should not be letting

13:04

you sign this because I felt bullied

13:06

and controlled in that and it was never not brought

13:08

up to me every day of our relationship.

13:10

The prenup was brought up. Someone once

13:12

said, a prenup is a poison injected into your

13:15

relationship. So when people don't want to get

13:17

married because they don't want to sign a prenup or they

13:19

don't want to be in a contract, it's not like

13:22

a prenup only is for

13:24

the person with the money. It's just like it can

13:26

be a poison injected. It was brought up all

13:28

the time, every day, and

13:30

in fights, in conflict

13:32

even more, and hung over

13:35

my head with like why I should be doing things

13:37

for my ex in different situations

13:39

because of the prenup. So when

13:42

he agreed to be on the television show and me a creed

13:44

to get married on the television show, and I

13:46

didn't want the show to be about us. The show

13:48

that I pitched and sold and Andy

13:51

Cohen bought and I was promised would be was

13:53

gonna be about my business, my

13:55

business, and it ended up the

13:58

the ball kept moving and then it was like, well, but you're

14:00

engaged, and it was never supposed to be

14:02

beat and he getting married It was never was supposed

14:04

to be about my business. And the ball kept moving and

14:07

I said. I kept saying, I don't want the ceeby Toryan Dan. I

14:09

don't want this to be Toryan Dan. My gut inside

14:11

my body said, I don't want the CEBU Toorian Dean. I don't

14:14

want to like involve him in this. And yet

14:17

he could say he didn't necessarily want to do it. He was

14:19

doing it to support me. But I would show up

14:21

after war, I would show up to shoot

14:24

and he would already be miked at the house in

14:26

scenes that he didn't even need

14:28

to be in, and in fairness to him,

14:30

the producer would call him directly and say, hey,

14:33

we want to shoot. But like it was suffocating

14:35

because then he wasn't really getting paid, and then he

14:37

wasn't really getting paid because

14:39

the show wasn't supposed to be about him. So

14:42

then I took part of my salary because

14:44

I felt guilty. I forgot all this. This is flying

14:46

out of me right now. I forgot this. I took part

14:48

of my salary and negotiated and gave part of my salary

14:51

to him because he was supporting

14:53

me in and he kept throwing up to me that

14:55

he's doing this, and he signed a prenup. But he's doing this,

14:57

and he signed a prenup. But lo and behold, he would

14:59

be shooting. He wasn't even needed to be shooting.

15:01

He had a mic on and was at the apartment

15:03

before I was shooting, so he seemed

15:05

to be saying he didn't want to be shooting, but he was like

15:08

there at the ready ahead of

15:10

time. And it was like, I felt like it was like moving

15:12

so fast. I didn't want I didn't want to be I didn't

15:14

want the show to be what it was. It

15:17

was it was it was like it was it was. It

15:19

was driving. It was like the tail was wagging

15:21

the dog. And yet

15:24

sometimes it was fun and sometimes it was funny. But like

15:26

the producers, it was all on me, and the show was on me,

15:28

and it was on me because it's just me. It's not the house life.

15:30

It's just me. Oh

15:33

and then the wedding and the

15:35

game was moving really fucking fast,

15:39

and he was behind the scenes saying to me, what's

15:42

gonna happen to me in my

15:45

career as a result of the show, and wanted

15:47

me to like give

15:49

him financial assurances because

15:52

he had agreed to do this show that he was showing

15:54

up ahead of time. To shoot, and

15:57

so that's when I ended up paying him part

15:59

of my salary and just and

16:01

it just I felt like it

16:04

just it was just a nightmare. So

16:18

I ended up paying him part of my salary

16:20

because I was just I couldn't breathe and I was exasperated,

16:22

and it was just like there was an imbalance in

16:25

the power struggle and it was a fucking

16:27

disaster. It was a nightmare. And

16:29

I'm pregnant and I'm getting married,

16:32

and I've sold my business and

16:35

I'm buying an apartment and I'm trying to pretend

16:37

that everything's good, and I'm talking to producers who

16:39

kind of don't really give a shit, and it's not their

16:41

fault either, but they kind of, you

16:44

know, they want the wedding to happen. And it

16:46

just was like two point oh, I've done this before. I just

16:48

I've done this before. Not

16:51

the same story because my ex is lovely and it was the greatest

16:53

divorce in history in my first marriage. I never if

16:55

I only knew and we still have

16:57

speak now and whatever, but like where you're

16:59

just like knowing it's not right and you just feel

17:01

that you shouldn't be doing it, but you're doing it anyway, because

17:04

you just don't have a function you don't

17:06

have like a functioning parental structure,

17:08

and you've raised yourself for

17:10

the most part, and you're raised by wolves, and you've been

17:12

growing up in an abusive household, and no one's

17:15

coming in and stepping in, and it's no one's fault.

17:17

I take all the accountability, But like, I

17:20

did not know what's normal and what's not normal.

17:22

What's it supposed to be? Like, what's it not supposed to be? Like I hadn't

17:24

had an example of two people who stayed

17:26

together for a long time to tell me, like this is right,

17:29

this is wrong. I had no sounding

17:31

board. And therapists don't give you tell you what to

17:33

do. They just like talk to you. They

17:35

don't like intervene and be like no, there's

17:37

just no person. And friends have their own you're

17:39

talking to producers, and you know,

17:41

you're also people are trying to also

17:45

save face. You're trying to pretend you're in a good relationship

17:47

because you're not gonna tell what you're in a bad you're not in a great

17:49

relationship, and you don't think it's right, and

17:53

you know, and I had

17:55

a miscarriage. I was pregnant again. I had a miscarriage.

17:58

And I was so relieved. I

18:01

was so incredibly relieved.

18:03

And we were laying in bed and he used to say

18:05

to me, you're like a block of ice. Because I did not want

18:07

to be intimate. I did not want to have sex. I

18:10

did not respect him. I did not want to have sex at

18:12

all. And he used to say to me, it feels like this bed is

18:14

a block of ice. I used to force myself gag

18:16

myself through doing it. Many of you know what

18:18

that's like. It is torture. And

18:22

I was relieved, and I, in

18:24

a constructive way, said I'm kind of

18:26

relieved that it was a nightmare that

18:28

had happened. And I said, I'm kind of relieved because

18:31

I don't think this is a healthier positive relationship.

18:33

Was like the first step to saying something. And

18:35

he said to me, quote unquote, you're

18:37

a real piece of shit, you know that.

18:41

And the baby was in the house and he moved

18:43

out to a hotel downtown for a couple of nights.

18:45

And it was a total relief, and

18:48

I started to panic and started to think, how am I getting the fuck

18:50

out of this? And how am I going to get divorced and started to

18:52

call lawyers and was like swirling and couldn't talk to

18:54

anybody and couldn't tell anyone and didn't know

18:56

what to do. The prenup kicked in after

18:58

two years. You

19:01

then give the opposite party ten

19:04

percent of the increase

19:07

in value of what

19:09

your business was when

19:12

you walked into the marriage. And

19:14

the biggest problem about that was that

19:17

we got together and Skinny Girl

19:19

popped off and I hit the lottery right

19:21

after getting married. So my whole life been

19:23

broke within the small

19:26

scope of when I get pregnant,

19:29

really fast engaged, and then married

19:31

within that time, I hit the lottery, and

19:36

when we hit two years, the ten percent

19:38

kicks in. The reason this was

19:40

so fucked up was that we didn't assign a value

19:42

to what the business was walking into

19:44

the marriage. So I

19:47

had to then later go deconstruct

19:49

and get forensic at

19:52

forensic accountants for over a year,

19:55

hundreds of thousands of dollars on them to

19:57

do a deep analysis to try to figure

19:59

out what's Skinny Girl Cocktails

20:01

was worth before we

20:04

got married, and then give a value ten

20:07

two years later. So it

20:09

was not worth nothing before we got married, because I'd put

20:11

it on the show before we got married, because I had said skinny

20:13

girl, because we talked about it on the reunion, because I

20:15

had the jugs of the Skinny Girl, I had the logo.

20:17

I was pouring it. People were obsessed with it, people

20:19

were talking about it. I had multiple liquor

20:22

deals coming in. I was doing it. I

20:24

made a deal with my partner. We were launching it. I

20:26

went, you know, so, what

20:28

was that value of putting it on TV for

20:30

all this time? That's when that's

20:33

and that's when when I put it on TV? Oh sorry,

20:35

and launching it. Then we launched it. Then it

20:37

was in a bottle. Then it was the fastest growing liquor

20:39

brand. So like, what was it worth for me putting

20:41

it on TV? And

20:44

he was trying to claim that he was helpful in it, and

20:46

he wasn't helpful in it, in it all at all, Like

20:50

I mean, he was on the show with me, but it would have been

20:52

another guy if it weren't him, respectfully, or it would have been a

20:55

you know, a friend, It would have been my business

20:57

on the show with me. And

20:59

the the problem was I

21:02

was trying to help him create value in his

21:04

life because he kept saying he doesn't have a job and what's gonna

21:07

happen to him and all this. So I

21:09

would say to my partners, can you meet

21:11

with him and can you have him help? Can you have him help

21:13

with sales. He's amazing at sales. He does for I

21:15

don't know if he's amazing at sales. He does pharmaceutical sales

21:17

for years. He must be good at it. So my partners

21:20

would be like not have anything for him to

21:22

do, but for me, they would like meet him and like

21:24

say, fine, maybe he can do this. But it was things that

21:26

he go visit stores and we would visit

21:28

store. He'd visit stores on the show, but the

21:30

stores didn't need visitors. We have salespeople

21:33

that visit the stores. So like he was sort

21:35

of like Fredo to them doing this, but like they

21:37

didn't. He wasn't adding value he doesn't have he

21:39

doesn't have expertise and liquor sales, and he

21:41

was just like this. It was like the classic Kelly

21:44

Clarkson's husband thing and like all

21:46

that shit. And I think these men play into

21:48

this shit because now all of a sudden they're whittling

21:50

their way into your business. So

21:53

in this scope of responsibility.

21:56

He would handle all the emails

21:58

and all the business stuff. He was helping me, just

22:01

helping me out of the goodness of his heart. He was

22:03

helping me, and he was signing.

22:06

He was approving bills for me to sign.

22:09

He was approving contracts

22:11

for me to sign. So when we

22:13

buy this apartment that he wanted his friend

22:16

to sell and

22:18

to represent, when we buy

22:21

this five million dollar asset, he's

22:24

talking to the realtor or the new realtor,

22:26

and he's talking to the guy who says we should set

22:28

up a trust so it's private, so no

22:30

one finds out. He's pushing this private,

22:32

this trust, pushing this trust so it's privacy.

22:34

Okay, people find out in five minutes anyway, and

22:37

we're shooting there. He's pushing this

22:39

trust. Okay, this is going to be hard

22:41

to follow. He pushes

22:43

the trust and for the time being, for

22:45

temporarily, we put it in Molly

22:48

Hayden can call her up, she'll verify

22:51

all of this. Put the trust in her name

22:53

temporarily. Molly was my

22:55

former assistant, so the apartment

22:58

is temporarily in Molly's

23:00

name. And my

23:03

ex keeps saying to me, we have to get

23:05

the apartment out of her name. We have to change

23:08

the name, we have to change the trust name. He

23:10

was obsessed with this. There were tons of emails and

23:12

tons of things. So my

23:14

understanding in the paperwork that I signed

23:17

was that the trust was

23:19

then put in my name, which is why the

23:21

apartment was in my name. That was

23:24

that missing step because

23:27

my team had advised me to put it in

23:29

someone's name temporarily, and that was

23:32

how Moley got involved. But she obviously

23:34

isn't going to be the person who the apartment's

23:36

name is in so we had to get

23:39

that out. But it was a sense of urgency

23:41

and he was controlling that process. That's

23:43

where the mistake happened that I didn't catch.

23:48

So the new co and I

23:50

didn't find this out for years that I couldn't figure it out.

23:52

So I tell my financial

23:54

advisor, Merrill Lynch, the one who approved the money

23:56

got the money, it's my money. I

23:59

tell him, yes, we signed it. The

24:01

trust is in my name, the houses

24:03

in my name, in the apartments in my name. That's

24:05

in my name. So much

24:08

to the point that we were going and

24:10

doing a state planning, which also is another

24:12

big argument because my accident want

24:15

that the money went to my daughter.

24:17

How was I taking care of him and how is it going

24:19

to him? And then he would pass it through to

24:21

her. And I wanted the money to go in a trust for my daughter,

24:24

okay, except I

24:26

said, fine, the apartment which

24:29

is in my name. I'll

24:31

leave the apartment in your name. Then

24:33

I guess in a trust to go to Britain. So I

24:35

agreed to that in the lawyers thinking,

24:38

and my lawyers were thinking. And

24:41

I don't know why that did it asked to see the trust think

24:43

because it was a different like lawyer, it's a different document,

24:45

thinking that that apartment is mine.

24:49

So after the two years, the prenapt

24:51

kicks in. Now I

24:54

write the letter you have to write a letter if the mail through

24:56

the US Postal Service. And I

24:59

get on the phone with my lawyers and

25:02

I assure them the apartment

25:04

is in my name. Days

25:06

later, I hire them. We're working together.

25:09

They say, the apartment is not in your name.

25:11

I'm like, what the fuck are you talking about? Because

25:14

neither my agent, nor my lawyer, nor my Merrill

25:16

Lynch guy, nor anyone that I know ever

25:19

knew that the apartment

25:21

was in both of our names. Now, how

25:23

the fuck am my support. And they're saying to me, how

25:26

the fuck are you supposed to prove that you are on

25:28

the cover of Forbes magazine and you're this successful

25:30

businesswoman and you didn't know. And

25:32

the light bulb was going off because I'm because Jason fucking

25:35

would approve all these documents and he would

25:37

have me sign all the shit all the time,

25:40

all the time. And

25:42

you know how that goes. It happens

25:45

now sometimes my business managers will sign off on something

25:47

or it's like, you know, a small deal that's not

25:49

a big thing, but like it happens,

25:51

and you could say it can't happen. And they used to say, oprah,

25:53

I would write every check. It is almost if

25:56

I had to read every single sentence of

25:58

every single contract, it would be to build llitating.

26:00

I couldn't do all these deals. And people

26:02

know that Mark Cuban doesn't read every

26:04

sentence of every single thing. He probably does because he's a savant,

26:07

But I mean, you have to trust somebody in the

26:09

process. So I thought I was trusting my husband,

26:11

and somewhere along the line, I fucking signed a document

26:13

where he gave himself half the apartment.

26:16

But wait, there's more. And

26:18

I'm going to go in left and right and up and

26:20

down because this is a ten year divorce. But there are gonna

26:22

be things that take me off on paths about how you

26:25

have to be careful. So no

26:27

one really knows how this

26:29

specifically happened. No

26:32

one knows. We're trying to go back, We're trying to go with Molly, We're trying

26:34

to chase documents. No one can figure this fucking thing out. We

26:36

can't. Okay, the apartment

26:38

is in a trust, so now gotta

26:42

be Two years later, two years,

26:45

half a million and legal on the apartment,

26:48

go to court, go

26:50

to appeal a million things. Two

26:53

years later, I'm sitting in my

26:55

house and this is why you are your

26:57

best lawyer. Your lawyer

27:00

are not you. You

27:02

are the lawyers. Your lawyers are just facilitators.

27:05

Okay, they call them solicitors in the UK.

27:08

They're facilitators. You are

27:10

your lawyer. They're not mind readers. They don't

27:12

know everything. And I'm like a Savanta about every single

27:14

thing it's ever happened, every email, I'm like, where

27:16

the fuck. So one day, two years

27:18

later, one of the three lawyers on my team

27:21

says to me, because I go back again. You always

27:23

go back to the scene of the crime. When you lose something, you can't

27:25

figure something out in a deal or otherwise, you go

27:27

back to the scene of the crime. Where did I fucking lose

27:29

that? What happened? Retrace my steps? So I

27:31

go back with it again. I don't know how this gonna happen.

27:34

How could it happen? They go, I don't know how you could have

27:36

You have to sign, you have to have a notary present,

27:38

et cetera. I'm like, skid

27:41

marks, what a notary

27:44

present? Yeah, They're like, the lawyer would be

27:46

there, the notary be there. I'm like, what are

27:48

you talking about. I never met a fucking lawyer or a notary.

27:50

I remember everything I do. I've never met a lawyer or

27:53

a notary. I don't know why they didn't bring

27:55

that up two years prior, but like, because

27:58

the document was signed to know notized, I

28:00

go, what the fuck are you talking about now? I

28:03

start going back through the documents. I find

28:05

the trust, I find the notarization. I

28:08

put that to the side. There's a notarization. My

28:11

ex's mother is the notary. Her

28:13

name is there, but she has crossed

28:15

out Pennsylvania because that's where she's legally

28:17

a notary, and she has written

28:21

in New York and she had and my signature

28:24

is forged and she has signed it. But

28:27

we find out, and I don't know how we find this out, she

28:29

was an expired notary. She wasn't

28:32

even a legal notary at that time. So she notarized

28:34

this, crossed out Pennsylvania, put

28:36

in New York because she's a notary in Pennsylvania,

28:39

or the reverse, whichever, whichever one the

28:41

document needed, she crossed out whatever it said. Because

28:43

I don't and I have all these book

28:45

clots, I have all of this paperwork, I have all

28:47

the receipts. Now I go to all my notebooks,

28:50

of all the emails, I go back through the emails

28:52

the lawyer that

28:54

we hire, but Jason was totally dealing

28:56

with. He found a lawyer, the realtor. Because this lawyer

28:59

we're dealing with a lawyer. I found several

29:01

emails between him and the guy with my

29:03

ex saying, just put the trust in mine

29:05

and put me on the trust. You need to put me on

29:07

the trust. I wasn't on those emails

29:09

where he was saying to put himself on the trust. I was conveniently

29:12

left off of those emails he said, put

29:14

me on the trust. And then later

29:17

after this thing was signed, this

29:21

lawyer sent my ex an email saying,

29:23

one of these days we have to meet face

29:25

to face, indicating to

29:28

me that he's never met him face to face, much

29:30

less have I ever met him face to face, much

29:32

less has he been in our presence with

29:34

a notary to notarize his documents.

29:37

That's what I then fucking take to the lawyers. That's

29:40

how we go to the appeal. That's how

29:42

after having padlocks in my room, which

29:45

I'm going to get into, also having

29:48

a lock at my door for

29:50

years, and having my assistants work in one

29:52

quadrant in the office with a padlock

29:55

on that door, and my ex not leaving

29:57

my apartment which is legal, which is mine,

30:00

I vacate my apartment years

30:04

later. That's how I finally got my apartment

30:06

back. So

30:09

next time we will discuss

30:11

what went on in that torture den

30:14

which is that apartment, which is what went

30:16

on in court, and what went on with my

30:18

assistance, what went on with my staff,

30:21

what went on with private detectives, what went on

30:23

with being hacking, what went on with being followed

30:25

what went on with all of that, That

30:27

all will be what went on with

30:30

the padlocks and with my daughter, what

30:32

went on with after school, and how I would

30:34

be in heels and my talk show makeup and hair and

30:37

not want to go back into my house and I would have to like

30:39

go just take brins somewhere in

30:41

a car to like Barnes and Noble or

30:43

like the park in like stilettos, in full makeup, because

30:45

I my home was a

30:48

torture chamber, and the judge

30:51

everybody tells every

30:54

person the person who leaves

30:56

is abandoning. It's called abandonment. So

30:58

the reason I stayed in the rich chamber chamber

31:01

is if you leave, you are considered you've abandoned

31:03

the marriage and it could affect your custody. But

31:07

I ended up leaving,

31:09

and the judge said, thank god,

31:12

somebody was smart enough to do it's best for his child.

31:15

Because when we first the first day we ever went to the

31:17

judge with the two lawyers for the custody,

31:20

for the custody situation, and

31:23

I'd put out a statement saying we

31:25

will be family forever.

31:28

We will do this amicably. I genuinely thought

31:30

we could do it. Amicably. I wanted

31:32

slightly more than fifty to fifty custody because

31:34

I knew I had a very rigorous schedule. And

31:37

I proposed because I knew that I would

31:39

be flexible and give him back days all the

31:41

time. And I knew that he wouldn't, which is a foreshadowing,

31:43

because he didn't. We talk about

31:46

that too. We have to talk about later the phone calls,

31:48

and like the rigidity with

31:50

the schedule. So I wanted

31:52

it to be amicable. I wanted it to be you

31:55

know. I wanted

31:57

us to be a family. I wanted it to work.

32:00

I wanted us to do holidays together. It

32:03

started a den of

32:05

hell. The most significant

32:08

torture I've ever been through in my entire

32:10

life was that apartment. That apartment was

32:12

a hellhole. That five apartment, million

32:15

dollar apartment that ended up being worth seven million dollars was

32:17

a hellhole and suffering. And the first

32:19

day we went to the judge met with

32:21

the judge, she said, a

32:23

custody battle is like watching your child

32:26

drown and begging you for help. And

32:29

I was crying, and I thought, Yay, he's

32:31

gonna hear that, and we're gonna resolve this, and

32:34

it's gonna be fine. And very shortly

32:36

after that, I offered him two

32:39

point two million dollars, a two point

32:41

two million dollar package, including an apartment

32:44

that would come back to me. I think it was an apartment

32:46

in Brits, Dana, and I think that was in one of the offers,

32:49

an apartment to live in that would come

32:51

back to me later or be in Brinsan or some version

32:53

of that. And he had eleanor

32:55

alter Ron, Pearlman's lawyer, this

32:57

famous lawyer who told him to take

33:00

the deal and then fired him afterwards

33:02

for not taking the deal because it was in the very

33:04

beginning before he spent any money on legal

33:06

and it was two point two million dollars on a

33:08

two year marriage, plus what ended up

33:11

being seventy five hundred dollars a month in child

33:13

support two point two million dollars

33:15

on a two year marriage, so paying plus money

33:17

he made on the show. So he made a couple

33:19

several hundred thousand dollars in the show. Plus now

33:21

he's so he's two and a half years in and he's

33:24

gonna have a two point seven million dollar package for

33:26

two years. Turns it down once

33:29

at least four to five times that first

33:32

lawyer fires him,