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So I am going to talk about something
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that I've never talked about and
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that nobody knows about
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my ten year divorce on a two year
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marriage. Now. Have I discussed
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my divorce in little pieces? And have
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I discussed divorce in general? And
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have there been breadcrumbs? Yes? Has
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the media written about my divorce
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ad nauseum? Yes? Have
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excerpts from the multiple
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years that I was in court come
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out out of context in different publications
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and been analyzed
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and attempted
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to be interpreted. Yes. But
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have I ever really spoken about my divorce
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from my perspective and
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how it all went down. No. And
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there are many reasons for that. One
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was that I was on
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a gag order. I felt
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stifled by certain
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things that I had to sign at
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certain periods to get things
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done and to stop the bleeding, and
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I later felt fraudulent
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in not sharing certain experiences.
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I also felt conflicted because I felt like
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I have a daughter and I
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don't want to put
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her at risk in any way emotionally,
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so I wanted to keep
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certain things private. And that's
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my primary concern as being a mother and my
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daughter. That being said, being
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a woman who speaks out about things that
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happened that other women are going through is
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really important. I mean, women experience
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abuse and torture
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and divorce and confusion and
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financial despair and discrimination
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and a lot of things, Like a lot of bad things
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happen during breakups and divorce. I
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mean, we've heard crazy stories from different
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celebrities and you read the headlines, but
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like divorce, there was a debate
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on The Housewives about divorce versus
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death and
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them being compared, and
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I've experienced both, and
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divorce for me was more
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torturous, was a worse experience.
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And that's a big statement because I experienced
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someone very close to me dying and it was really
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horrific. But nothing
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will ever be in my entire
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life as torturous as
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my divorce. And I grew up in I mean, I've
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experienced drugs and
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gambling and guns and
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abuse and watching people get
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you know, beaten the shit out of and hospitalized,
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and I've seen people in you
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know, try to take their own life.
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And I've seen pretty bad shit. I mean, I've seen
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really bad shit, like and
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there's nothing that will ever compare to my divorce
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and what it was like like it was by
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far the worst experience of
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my life. I thought
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I would never survive it. I did not see
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a way out. It was suffocating.
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I thought I was going to be miserable for the rest of my life.
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I thought I was going to have a terrible life. I
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could not see out of it. I literally
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could not see out of it. And I
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at the time that I could not see out of it,
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was a well known, wealthy,
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powerful, successful,
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attractive, smart woman
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with a whole big career ahead
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of her. So imagine
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what a person who doesn't have all those things
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going for them goes through and feels
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like the power struggle, the
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manipulation. There's so many things
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that go on, and while the world really
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really focuses so much on the fairy
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tale and the dress and then get the ring, and
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get the guy, and get the married and
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get the partner and all of these things,
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and watch us celebrities promote their
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relationships and show us all the good and
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never show us the bad, and show us, you
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know, the rise to romance
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and never, and then it's you know, respect our privacy.
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During this challenging time, I feel
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that there's a responsibility to tell
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the story of what the fuck went down, because
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it's not that common to have
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a ten year divorce on any
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length of marriage, much less a two year marriage.
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And I certainly didn't walk into this thinking
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that this was going to happen. And I
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had a therapist in the beginning say
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to me, you know, this is a
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divorce. It's a garden variety divorce, like you're getting
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divorced, And then I had the
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same therapists, Multiple therapists
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and lawyers say that they have never ever in their
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entire careers seen anything like
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what went down in my divorce. It was
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anything but garden variety. And
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like they've said that, you know this,
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this was mental and emotional
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torture what I went through, And I'm
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discussing it from my perspective, and I'm
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not here to trash anybody
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because it does no good. This is not an anger
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train. If I was so angry, it would have been years ago.
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And I actually had the anger and was so helpless.
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It's not that. It's more like this was
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an experience that I've hidden
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because I felt that I couldn't
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speak out because of a gag order for a certain period
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of time, and then I felt that I shouldn't speak out because
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of my daughter. My daughter knows all about
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this, and we talk about it a lot,
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and I'm not doing anything that
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is even remotely damaging to
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my daughter. I don't have to explain why
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I know that and why I vetted
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that, but I can tell you with great
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certainty, and you know I'm a pretty thorough
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and methodical person that I am speaking
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about this thoughtfully and
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carefully, but responsibly,
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and the story needs
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to be told. When
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I've talked about divorce in just
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little snippets, whether it's on TikTok or Instagram
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or on here. About the fifteen
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notebooks that I have right now in a storage facility
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that were the reason that I ended up getting primary
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custody of my child and ending a ten
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year, harrowing, tortureous
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situation. The
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downloads and
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the views were astronomical, and
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people are desperate for help, and people can't
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afford the legal help
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that I had got. You got to understand
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I had the resources, and I was a
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powerless, tortured
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individual. I cannot imagine what someone
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who has no money or power or resources
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goes through like it used
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to be the only thing that kept me going during this
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divorce to say one day I will
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hope fully get out of this and be able to help somebody else.
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So I took a long time before
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I was ready to do that, and it's years
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after it and now, ironically
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it's not that many years after it was finalized, but it's
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years after it started. And now I'm finally ready
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and this is the place I'm going to do it. So
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I don't know how many parts this will be.
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Off the top of my head, I think maybe ten
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parts on ten years. It could be twenty
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five parts, it could be years.
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There's so many things that happened. I
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can't explain. I went through forensic
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forensic psychologists. I
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went through financial forensic
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analysis. I went through
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parenting coordinators, lawyers,
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multiple trials. I dealt
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with fraud. I dealt with
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forgery. I dealt with being
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followed. I dealt with being
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allegedly being hacked. I'm saying
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words in a certain way because but I
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mean there's I dealt with court appeals.
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I dealt with my apartment, which
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I believed was my own
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to one day finding out that there
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was document documentation that was
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not properly
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and legally executed that
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led people to believe that my apartment was not my
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own. For several years, until I became
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my own detective and figured out how
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to clarify that. I
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mean, I've spent months
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and years in court. I've
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dealt with my daughter having her own lawyer.
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It's called a guardian ad litem. I've
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dealt with multiple trials on custody
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to eventually get decision making and
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then finally get primary custody. And I have
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been through a fucking war,
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a war. I have questioned
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myself as a human, as a parent,
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because I was told so many times
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otherwise how terrible I was
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in disgusting and old and irrelevant and
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so abused. Because there was I had no
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pass to get out of it. I have had my child
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withheld. I have had I mean, I have had every
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single fucking thing except for
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physical abuse done
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to me. And I
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am an expert on this topic. An expert
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on this topic, You can call Alan Myefski
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and Ronnie Shandel and Heidi
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and ask them if I am an expert
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on this topic, if I could not be a divorce
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lay or ask them insane.
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So I am ready to talk about
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something that has been impossible to talk about and
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that cannot be talked about in bite sized
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pieces. It has to live and breathe, and
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it has to be explained how I arrived
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in that situation, how a person who is
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so smart and so successful could
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make such poor judgment
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calls and decisions or just not
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know or just have a bad hand. But
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it's been a journey,
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so I'm ready to discuss it, and
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I'm ready to help some people educate. And
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you do not know what it's like until you go through
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it. So somehow I have to find
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the way to convey to people so they don't go
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through it. I just think I can do that. I think that I
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was born to do that in a way that people
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will not like from the very
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beginning of a relationship, that people
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will not get to where I've gotten
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to. And it's why I have not
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gotten married again,
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or I'm not sure if I would ever get married again, or
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ever be legally bound to someone
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for anything other than a business contract. It
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just is insane to me in
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many ways. So I've
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been burned, I have massive trust issues,
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and I have post traumatic stress disorder.
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It was literally the most traumatizing
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thing that I will hopefully ever go
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through in my life.
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