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This. Is Jock or Park as number four?
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Thirty five would echo Charles in me Jock
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a week. Good evening Echo bidding the. The.
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Night we moved off the beach
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England somewhere around Henderson Field. We
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were to beef up the small perimeter,
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which had been held by the other
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two regiments. Our friends
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at the beach told us to expect to
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see some activity after dark. As
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they just told us about the way the
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enemy harassed them at night. Just
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as we were starting across an open
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clearing near Henderson Field. Washing
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Machine Charlie, the Japanese observation
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and spotter plane we had
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been told about, dropped his
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greenish white. But. Very illuminating.
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Parachute flares right over
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us lighting up. The.
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Entire area like daylight. Naturally,
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We hit the deck immediately and not a
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soul moved. A
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moment later, The. Booming
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from see Lark Channel came
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the horrifying red hot naval
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gunfire ripping up trees and
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causing the earth to move
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under you as each big
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round came crashing ashore. This
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was our baptism. And
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that right there is an excerpt from
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a book. Called.
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A marine named
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niche. Written
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by Mitchell Page. Who
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served. As new listed
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marine was eventually commissioned. And
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and he was born in
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Charlie Roy, Pennsylvania. August
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Thirty First, Nineteen, eighteen, His
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parents were Serbian, they had
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immigrated. To. America. From.
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Overseas and he was the youngest
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of three older sister, older brother.
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Spend. his teenage years In
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the Great Depression doesn't
2:03
talk about that too much in the book gives some
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kind of basic background But as
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he's growing up, he sees some it's interesting.
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He sees some some violence and whatnot But
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it turns out that the military Looks
2:16
like a pretty good option and
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We're gonna get into it get into
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his life and you're gonna hear some stories that You
2:26
won't forget Here
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we go One
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day after high school was over I kissed my
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mother goodbye my very close friend
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Johnny Holler Was two
2:38
years younger than I wanted to go with me Mother
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packed a bag of food for us and Johnny
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and I set out for Baltimore We started walking
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and the next day we arrived in Baltimore after
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being given several rides by people on
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the road The recruiters told me they
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could not accept me until the end of August because I was
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just 17 and besides I need you to put
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on more weight So
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on that hot summer day in 1936
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Johnny and I started back to Camden
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Hill. This was the greatest distance either of us
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had ever been from home We walked many miles
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as we were embarrassed to put our hands to
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put up our hands to flag a car or
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a truck Once we came to a
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stream where we stopped for a rest I
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washed out my socks and put them on a rock to
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dry then I bathed myself Johnny laughed at
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me when I told him you had
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to check your socks shoes and feet if
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you're gonna walk long distances On
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my 18th birthday. I was back in Baltimore alone
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this time I passed the physical
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examination But I had to eat about a
3:35
dozen bananas and drink several glasses of water
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as I still wasn't quite heavy enough When
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the doctor started the examination I? Had
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my left hand on a Bible and
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my right hand was raised facing the
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American flag my spine Tingled as I
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repeated the oath administered to me by
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the Marine Corps officer that day in
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the recruiting office in Baltimore Quote
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I Will uphold and defend the Constitution of
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the United States of America. Against
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all enemies whomsoever foreign
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or domestic. Was.
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Given a train ticket. To. Paris
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and. South. Carolina from
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my boot camp training there.
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Were. Other new men on the
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train. Also.
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And we quickly got acquainted. We talked about.
4:19
Or. New adventure and all the fun.
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We're point asks but that all change.
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We were met at the train station
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in a little town by some marines
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known as to Instructors were D eyes.
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I never realized anybody or anything could
4:32
be so rough or do. Instructors were
4:35
truly tough men. I didn't recall. Corporal
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Ambrose D. wept. You'd put
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his nose against recruits nose and say it's
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if you don't shape up, I'll kill you.
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And we all knew he meant. One
4:48
night about zero two hundred. so he made
4:50
us get under our bunks. Role.
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Heavy marching orders, then carry them
4:55
outside, put them on our backs,
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and then we had a double
4:59
time into the swamps. He marched
5:01
as right into Reading Creek while
5:03
standing on the bank screaming down
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you dumb fast drowned you dumb
5:07
bastards drought. We.
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Had outstanding men and knew what March
5:12
discipline meant. By. That time. The
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first man and a watermark straight through.
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The rest followed and as a consequence
5:19
no one was hurt. We.
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Were dead tired when we finally got to
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bed in our barracks that morning and
5:26
Revelry sounded a very short time later. Very.
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A favorite practice of corporal
5:32
Webs. While. We were at the
5:35
rifle range was to march as out to
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a very sandy area where he ordered us
5:39
to Santa Detention for an hour to time
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span a with worst one had to go
5:43
to like a gearbox your basic seal turning.
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You you know you gotta like do
5:49
pushups and Burpee were willing to. Barbies
5:51
they do Now we did a towel.
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Body Builders: Whatever you're doing calisthenics that
5:55
are you getting crushed? Ascertained? it's cool.
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A. Lot of it was stand. there at
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attention don't move and
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I would much rather take them. They
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can't bodybuilders or whatever. What
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is the position of standing here? Hands on
6:10
your side. Your feet are together. You're looking
6:13
straight ahead. It's like that. Yeah.
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Normal military position of attention. You can't like loosen
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up. No. They still stay still.
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That's not fun. Back to
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the book. With our shirt, with our
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arms and necks exposed since we can only
6:27
wear an undershirt, the thousands of sand fleas
6:29
were all over us in our nostrils, eyes,
6:31
ears and hair. Web-paced back and
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forth around us pounding the palm of his
6:36
hand with a stick screaming, if you move
6:38
a muscle, I'll kill you. Look,
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obviously I'm not going to read the whole
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book. Fast forward a little bit. Graduation from
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boot camp was the highlight in my life
6:51
to that point. Fast
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forward a little bit. I had enlisted when
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I had enlisted in Baltimore. The commandant
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of the Marine Corps was Major General
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John H. Russell. On December 1, 1936,
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when General Russell retired, Major General
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Thomas Holcomb became the 17th commandant
7:09
of the Marine Corps. As
7:11
years went by, the old salts used to say,
7:14
and how many commandants have you served under? It
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was wonderful to know that I was no longer a recruit.
7:20
I was now out serving with other
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regulars, from boy
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to man. So
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again, this is 1936. So
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this is the Great Depression that's going on, and
7:36
there's no war going on. And he
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gets assigned to a ship. He gets assigned to
7:40
the USS Wyoming in Norfolk, Virginia, and
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they set sail out into the Atlantic. He goes
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through San Juan, Puerto Rico,
7:48
and Guantanamo, and through the Panama Canal,
7:50
out into the Pacific Ocean. Goes
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up the coast of Mexico, ends up in California.
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Going To the book here. The next day.
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February eighteen, nineteen, Thirty seven was
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a cool, cool, overcast day for
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we're off San Clemente. I want.
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Which. Is. Often
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sixty five nautical miles off the coast
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of San Diego were few and I
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live and it's also where seals get
8:17
trained not only in basics, your training
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but also and some advanced training. You
8:22
got sick when has think my own
8:24
has a special place. So
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here he is overcast. They were off.
8:31
same company I went when at ten
8:34
forty two, a powder charge of a
8:36
five inch shell exploded in a breach
8:38
which had not been properly closed. At.
8:41
That precise moment on gun
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number thirteen starboard side green,
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Captain Edward J. Trumbull and
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five enlisted men were killed.
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Ten others were seriously injured and one died
8:52
a few hours later. I.
8:54
Help the man to the sick bay who's arm
8:56
had been blown off the shoulders. He was a
8:59
horrible so. That
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was the first of many terrible sites I
9:03
would be experiencing in the next few years.
9:07
So. That's one thing they do. it's
9:09
in from now as you can even
9:11
bomb see naval gunfire out there and
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that's what they were doing I'm sure
9:15
at that time. So then from there
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he gets onto another ship uss Show
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Months' goes away. Goes
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to Guam. I'm. Susan
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Usb Uss Show Month ch A
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you ammo and cheats me says
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this on the nineteenth. I sorry
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On the nineteenth of June Nineteen
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Thirty seven. We steamed in a
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Manila Bay pass Corregidor and into
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Manila Philippine Islands some sixteen hundred
9:40
miles from Guam. As.
9:43
The todd eased us into the dark.
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A loud cheer and laughter came from
9:47
the greeters as the stern of the
9:49
ship moved in closer. A
9:52
marine private had lowered himself over
9:54
the fantail of the ship and
9:57
under the letters of the ship's
9:59
name. He. Having to the following
10:01
so you know the name of the
10:03
zip ship is the show monster and
10:05
that's written across the stern of the
10:07
ship. And so this marine since neither
10:10
gone over the side and he'd added
10:12
letters under nice. To make
10:14
a sentence and the sentence
10:16
that he wrote was Christ
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Help all Us Marines on
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Navy transports. And
10:24
knew that he says this only a troop
10:26
passenger would understand his reasons for doing this
10:28
and I was a true passenger on. Three
10:31
Navy ships to amphibious since one aircraft
10:33
carrier is. and here's wheat. Here's what
10:36
they doing with one canteen of fresh
10:38
water a day to brush your teeth
10:40
and wash your face. Salt water, showers
10:42
and sleeping quarters that were stacked so
10:44
high, so deep in so close together
10:46
so you never knew who's foot or
10:49
hand would be in your face. Anyone
10:51
with claustrophobia would never have survived The
10:53
chow winds were unbelievable. He was one
10:55
continuous line that snaked all around the
10:57
top side of the ship from above
11:00
zero. Five hundred for. Breakfast Assists. I
11:02
was just laughing as I read
11:04
this because. That's
11:06
exactly what it was like for before
11:08
ship in the nineties. This
11:11
is interesting. Transportable with the total
11:13
strength of the United States Marine Corps
11:15
at that time was. Seventeen.
11:18
Sounds. Told strength to
11:20
behold. Marine Corps seventeen thousand which included
11:22
all the officers and men station all
11:24
over the world are pay them as
11:26
a private was twenty one dollars a
11:28
month. Twenty. Cents was
11:30
deducted for the navy each
11:33
month for hospitalization. So actually.
11:35
I. Was receiving twenty dollars? And.
11:38
Eighty cents. So.
11:45
Little bit more home. Or
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commanding officer was known as Miles
11:51
are saturates. He was better known
11:53
to all enlisted men as our
11:55
Marshall. He was
11:58
said that call Sasha held the Marine Corps. Hundred
12:00
for the greatest number of brig
12:02
days awarded for accidental discharge is
12:04
an for failure to salutes. And
12:08
what's interesting about that? as even though they had
12:10
a super strict commander. They
12:13
were still out just like. Be
12:16
young Mercy sixty after it's pick up
12:18
food. Sas in the book. I can
12:21
call one big brawl. In
12:23
the Dreamland Cabaret when about two
12:25
hundred sailors, marines, and civilians turned
12:27
on one another while blowing my
12:29
whistle and pulling sailors and marines
12:31
apart, I felt someone tumbling my
12:33
back in the back of my
12:35
head. I swung around and quickly.
12:38
I. Could see a ballerina slopping to the
12:40
floor as I actually clobbered or with
12:42
my elbow. I. Picked
12:44
up her I picked her up and deposit
12:46
her behind the bar. Told bartender puts my
12:49
summer head I was glad that the night
12:51
was over. A word about the ballerina but
12:53
she was are at the next day sore
12:55
head so these guys are just out brawling.
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He ends up going from. Manila.
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And headed for China on October Twenty fifth,
13:03
Nineteen, Thirty eight, I went aboard ship in
13:05
Manila. We sailed up the Hong Kong for
13:07
a few days. And.
13:10
Then the Shanghai. After
13:12
we hit the road yangtze River. We.
13:15
Didn't Steamed along the muddy Wang Poo
13:17
river to Shanghai, which was about sixty
13:19
miles from the seats would pass numerous
13:21
Japanese warships and all looked as though
13:24
they were itching for a score. As
13:27
like thirty Eight. This
13:35
was just. One
13:37
day, I was browsing around in
13:39
the Oriental Bookstore, which is located
13:41
at One Sixty Four Victory a
13:43
Road. In.
13:46
Sin. Sin. I
13:48
saw. Lieutenant. Chide stir
13:50
perusing a book. As
13:52
I walked over to say hello. To.
13:54
Him I noticed he was looking in a
13:56
book entitled Opium. He. Asked
13:59
me what I. Reading and I told
14:01
him I just purchased a book about Genghis
14:03
Khan. previously had purchased a book about Marco
14:05
Polo the Venetian travelers weekend. A child stir
14:07
said he was reading all the books about
14:09
Dopey could lay his hands on. The next
14:11
day when I came off watch and walked
14:13
into the courthouse the sergeant a guard told
14:15
me a weekend a chance to wish to
14:17
see me. When I went into the small
14:20
Officer of the Days wants to Ten it
14:22
was reading the book about opium. He
14:24
to be sit down. And inserted
14:26
tell me why you so interested
14:28
in books about jokes. He said
14:31
some day dope will be the
14:33
ruination of the world. Dope will
14:35
do the people's. Dope.
14:37
Dope. Due to the peoples of
14:39
the world. What bombs, bullets and
14:42
bayonets won't do? It
14:44
will kill millions without
14:46
wounds, cuts, dismemberment, mutilation,
14:48
or bloodletting. But rather,
14:50
it will kill by
14:52
destroying the mind. He.
14:56
To me about the horrors and the
14:58
tragedy he believed would set the world
15:00
all mankind through the use of narcotics.
15:02
to to me how the Japanese said
15:04
introduce their red pills into trying to
15:06
us he said the Trini said recently
15:08
and Studio Ross a Chinese manufacturers have
15:10
no an attorney. He.
15:15
Gave me a real education on opium, hair,
15:17
wind and more. Seat. He.
15:28
Moves again. And
15:30
went to. Chin. Wings How
15:33
on the Coast where I went aboard
15:35
the Uss Henderson. or
15:37
more familiar with known as. Cindy.
15:40
Maru Twenty sailor marines ever traveled to
15:42
or from the forest in the thirties
15:44
and forties series on another shipped. Back
15:48
across the Pacific back to Honolulu.
15:50
Fast forward San Francisco. Through
15:54
back through the Panama Canal, back
15:56
to Brooklyn. Granted
15:59
it. yeah. Granted, leave goes home
16:01
for the first time. Mother read several letters
16:03
to me she'd received from the old country
16:05
where it was feared that Serbia in Serbia
16:08
that they too would be in another war.
16:10
Principle. Of Yugoslavia was reported visiting with
16:13
Hitler and many of the high Yugoslav
16:15
Air Force officers were mingling with German
16:17
officials and military personnel. Mother said she
16:19
was certain that the country was being
16:21
sold out to the Germans. When.
16:24
My be was over as order to. Philadelphia
16:27
Navy Yard for duty, so
16:29
he shows up there. Been
16:31
promoted Corporal. September tenth, Nineteen
16:33
Forty. And against
16:35
just trying to give you some sense of
16:38
what's going on in his world has been
16:40
it's a peacetime marine during the Great Depression.
16:45
Fast forward a little bit more. Captain
16:47
Mahoney called me into his office, had
16:49
to be issued a papers he reached
16:51
out his hands at graduation Sergeants had
16:53
been promoted. My date of rank was
16:55
May Fourteenth, Nineteen Forty one. Goes
16:59
over he's now tracking know there are
17:01
watching these world events edu us last.
17:05
Get. Bombed. By. Hitler.
17:09
And. Now we can get into it. Sunday.
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December Seventh, Nineteen Forty One. I
17:14
was sitting in my Can't in New River,
17:17
North Carolina when the news on the radio
17:19
was interrupted with a special bulletin the Japanese
17:21
were burnt bombing Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. The news
17:24
when around camp in a flash as it
17:26
did around the country the entire world That
17:28
day in December all men on Liberty of
17:30
those whose and those on leave were recalled
17:33
immediately. There were very heavy casualties know why
17:35
we learned as everyone seemed to have his
17:37
ears glued all the reducing camp that day.
17:39
In addition we learned that the Japanese and
17:42
also struck at all of our other bases
17:44
in the Pacific. And in the
17:46
Orient asked teen officers and one
17:48
hundred seventy eight listed men at
17:50
Chet Atkins and and pay keep
17:53
P Kings were interned that day
17:55
by the Japanese. A short time
17:57
after that the first announcement. Captain.
18:00
Only insurgent bill eg. Who
18:03
had just returned from Charleston, South Carolina
18:05
came charging into the tent. The.
18:07
Captain's first words were, well
18:09
this is it This time.
18:13
And. We all knew it was too. Weak.
18:23
Fast forward when we learn that we would
18:25
be the first to be going overseas. I
18:27
thought how nice it would be if we'd
18:29
only be able to continue to listen to
18:31
what was my Save a Radio program as
18:33
it was also surprised the all them read
18:36
the river north Carolina surveyed said signed up
18:38
there leaving. This
18:41
was a a little side note as well. In
18:46
October. Nineteen Forty One. So. Arrives
18:49
in New River, North Carolina and took
18:52
over as the commanding officer. First to
18:54
read: Seventh Marines. Are.
18:57
So yeah. chesty puller. Good
19:00
to hear about him. Or
19:02
Battalion Executive officer was Major
19:04
Odell Am Connolly. an outstanding
19:06
officer in every respect. We.
19:08
All had absolute confidence in Major Connolly,
19:11
and I personally was very happy to
19:13
have such capable leaders as he and
19:15
Curl Hannigan. On
19:18
the force of art of April Nineteen,
19:20
Forty two hours Promoted to Platoon Sergeant
19:22
Marine Corps. My
19:24
machine gun platoon when aboard the
19:27
Uss some a hot. Which.
19:29
Was and cargo ship also a
19:32
board was a naval construction unit
19:34
of see beast. At
19:36
Zero Four hundred on the tenth of April,
19:38
Nineteen Forty two we sailed out an offer.
19:42
To the Atlantic. What?
19:44
The Cbc just
19:46
so Seabees, It
19:49
says for construction battalion so
19:51
in the navy they have.
19:53
They need to build sex and.
19:57
So. they swarmed this group called
20:00
Their nickname is CB and their
20:02
symbol is like a little B, but they
20:05
still exist to this day. And they're
20:07
really, in a way, kind
20:11
of the group
20:14
inside the Navy that is likely to
20:16
spend time on the ground
20:18
in combat because they build
20:21
things in an extremist
20:23
situation. So for us,
20:25
since asking the bruiser, I had CBs
20:27
with me. And so their job in
20:31
our camp, at Camp Mark Lee in Ramadi,
20:33
so if we needed something to be built,
20:35
they built it. So if
20:37
we needed a bunker built or we
20:39
needed a tables built or
20:41
we needed a building built, they would build it.
20:43
They would build a building. You know what I
20:45
mean? Now it doesn't, it's
20:47
not up to code or whatever. I mean,
20:49
it's put structurally sound, two by fours, and
20:52
there's no sheetrock, but it's
20:54
got plywood on the inside. And
20:57
then these guys, actually our CBs, would
20:59
go out and just build out whatever we needed to.
21:02
So when
21:04
we would set up in a combat outpost, if we needed a
21:06
little extra, who
21:09
knows, maybe a little planning space, they'd go
21:11
out into town and go down there and
21:13
build it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When Stoner was
21:16
over in Camp Corregidor, they were
21:18
in this building called Full
21:20
Metal Jacket. So this
21:22
building was called Full Metal Jacket
21:24
because it was all blown up. This is over at Camp Corregidor, the
21:26
first of the 506. And
21:29
these soldiers and Marines and SEALs are
21:31
living in this building called Full Metal
21:33
Jacket. And I
21:35
remember one of the first things,
21:38
so when we got to Ramadi pretty early,
21:40
we went over. They needed help over in
21:42
that district of Ramadi, eastern Ramadi. Wait,
21:45
who needed help? Well,
21:48
there was a lot of enemy activity. Oh, right.
21:50
So everyone that was there. So when we
21:52
showed up, we killed some IED in places,
21:54
like almost out of the gate. And
21:57
Colonel Gronsky, who's been on the podcast. We
22:01
were. I'm
22:03
literally in that the. In
22:06
his tattoo op So the Brigade tackle operations
22:08
and we'd been there for a little while
22:10
but a very short period of time and
22:12
when we got their. Marines.
22:15
Had just had a massive Id in
22:17
this place called Firecracker. And.
22:20
Former. He got killed. it was
22:22
terrible and the marines kind of liaised
22:25
with us and said hey we've got
22:27
this area where there's a lot of
22:29
ideas placements d can you help us
22:31
mature and so did he have Tony's
22:34
took some guys they wouldn't set up
22:36
a sniper positions and killed ideal place
22:38
or so in that vicinity where they
22:40
had just lost those marines and I
22:43
was in talking to colonel. Granted he.
22:46
As. These reports are common in hey. There's.
22:50
Been. Multiple engagements of I deem
22:52
pleasers and neo cons Crosby's are
22:54
those your gas service or guys
22:56
he said we could use your
22:59
guys out in Eastern remarks. In
23:02
this place called them a lot district
23:04
so. I said roger
23:06
that and so we put together a package of
23:08
guys to go out to. Eastern. Ramadi
23:10
and at first we took a big group
23:13
like probably. Twenty
23:16
guys for the first series emissions and we did out
23:18
of there. But when we
23:20
got there winning a place to stay. So
23:22
where we stayed with this place called Full
23:24
Metal Jacket says at that time. It
23:27
was dirt floors. Just
23:29
mosquitoes just hotter than hell.
23:31
It's soft, it was nasty,
23:34
wouldn't with miscues. The car
23:36
sandflies or something is and
23:38
it had. Moved
23:41
us new Moon dust is yeah,
23:43
maybe Irving Place as real world
23:45
Like real world moon dust know?
23:47
So this had moon dust everywhere
23:49
in Camp Corregidor and the moon
23:51
dust was just all over the
23:53
place. So. This
23:55
place really suck to lift so we ended up. conducting
23:59
operations for a period of time
24:01
out there and
24:04
that's actually when we had the blue on blue. So
24:06
all that stuff, so we conducted a bunch of operations, we
24:08
ended up having that blue on blue. Now
24:11
we go back to, I take all
24:13
those guys and we go back to Western
24:15
Ramadi. When we get back
24:17
to Western Ramadi, which was called
24:19
Shark Base, which we changed the name to Camp Mark,
24:21
we after Mark got killed. So now
24:23
we're back there and
24:27
we debrief the blue
24:30
on blue, we set up standard
24:32
operating procedures to make sure it doesn't happen again, all that.
24:36
Investigation gets complete, so now we're back, we got to get
24:38
back in the field and go do
24:40
our job. And
24:43
now it was, okay, we need to
24:46
send an element of guys back over
24:48
to Corregidor and this ended up being
24:50
Detachment Corregidor, Detcor. So
24:53
Detcor, which Seth took,
24:56
six guys, seven guys out
24:59
to Detcor and
25:02
Mikey Montsor was one of them, JP Donnell
25:04
was one of them. So
25:06
that group of guys, I think all the other
25:08
guys are still in,
25:11
some of them are out, but anyways it was that group of guys, they
25:14
go back out there. So now it's just them,
25:16
but now they're going to permanently live there and
25:18
they're in this freaking barracks that is socks. So
25:23
we explained that to the Seabees. And
25:25
this whole story that I just told you is my
25:27
love story for the Seabees. Because
25:30
then the Seabees go
25:33
back, go out there, they load up a truck and
25:35
go out there with all kinds of plywood and air
25:38
conditioning and rewire the thing and get it all
25:40
set up. And everyone built
25:42
in these big kind of empty
25:44
rooms, everyone built their own little
25:46
bedrooms. So
25:49
Mikey Montsor is like
25:51
Mikey's mansion or something like that, like
25:53
a velvet hanging over. And
25:55
everyone had these little, basically built these little,
25:57
you know,
25:59
fellas. a nice a lot more comfortable
26:01
they put flooring in because it was dirt
26:03
yeah they put plywood down the so the
26:06
CBs did that the CBs also
26:10
so one of
26:12
the the CB chief great guy
26:15
and so we
26:17
got mortared in the mortar round
26:19
hit by our tents
26:24
and but
26:27
luckily thankfully I don't know how it didn't
26:29
hurt anybody but it blew up our put
26:31
holes into our big we had a big
26:33
water tank you know like a 10,000 gallon
26:36
water tank a big giant water tank and
26:38
so it put big holes in it was
26:41
ruined and
26:44
somehow my CB chief went out and
26:46
found somehow he
26:49
went out and found another tank
26:52
and brought it in a camp and got it all hooked up and
26:55
you know I was talking to him and I
26:57
said hey man thank you like he got it up
26:59
in a day or whatever two days and
27:02
I just went I was like hey and again this is
27:04
my like love story for the CBs and
27:07
Zewitz said hey chief I was like
27:09
hey man I really appreciate you getting that done that
27:12
way guys can fill up
27:14
their canteens and and he's
27:16
like hey it's no
27:18
problem I'll do whatever I got to do to take
27:20
care of you guys so you can go out there
27:23
and kill these bad guys because I don't want no
27:25
more boom-boom in the camp I
27:28
said I hear you man I don't want any more boom-boom
27:30
in the camp either we don't like that boom-boom in the
27:32
camp and so yes
27:34
so that's what CBs do and their motto
27:37
is we build we fight yeah and we
27:39
certainly gave them the opportunity to build and
27:41
fight for Marty they do a great job
27:44
so legit like that even that even kind
27:46
of and I'm kind of slowly not slowly
27:48
been over time painting this picture
27:50
of like how it all works you know
27:52
and it's like these are massive massive operations
27:54
obviously where like you have a whole Their
27:57
whole job is just to go and just build shit.
28:00
Yeah yeah and suits and we had
28:02
one of reply had Saudi vehicles so
28:04
if I had pen humvees a big
28:06
to big six buys little like it's
28:08
a Su East look as maintain all
28:10
those vehicles in some and and it's
28:13
a big your we are maintaining a
28:15
humvee that guys can be driving into
28:17
their lives are dependent on. it's a
28:19
big deal you can't gun deck the
28:21
the freaking maintenance Honest with you know
28:24
that weep I think we had. Seventeen.
28:28
Diesel generators in their beaten,
28:30
the camping generator her both
28:32
Leno generators that's. A
28:34
size of a small truck. New enemies. We
28:37
had like seventeen those all the air conditioning
28:39
units because it's they were worth around because
28:41
they work round the clock. We have six
28:43
Cbc and then they're They're bought their boss.
28:46
Technically was this masterpiece. so we're
28:48
master key Cb. You can adjust.
28:52
Your. Your view at
28:54
a lot of power, you know? So if
28:56
we need some. And my
28:58
chief to go to I'm after that massive would
29:00
take care of us. year there was a great
29:03
guy thirds drake Us: yeah that seems like you'd
29:05
be a I mean obviously there's a lot to
29:07
it but that seemed like depth. Such a legit
29:09
or you could just to say listen built that
29:11
to get out there and it's very cool if
29:13
any was listen to this. And your
29:15
let's say you're sixteen years old and you
29:17
like. Carpentry. Or
29:20
you like working on cars? Are
29:22
you like heavy machinery? You
29:25
know normally for sure there's to do
29:27
you mean and here, but the sea
29:29
breezes, definite options and your job. Your
29:31
job will be like diesel mechanic or
29:34
heavy equipment operator. So when you. If
29:36
you want to get a skill you've known
29:39
to Cbs and you can get that's and
29:41
it is his. Adenoids like
29:43
now use build a hard to make rank
29:45
because it was such a good like you
29:47
your even recognizing that it's a cool job
29:50
yes and so since it's cool job guys
29:52
stay in it and sixties and it gets
29:54
kind of the ranks get filled up some
29:56
as he be a little bit hard to
29:58
make rank but our seems were great and
30:01
the young enlisted guys like of the force
30:03
he finds those guys are working. Twenty
30:06
four hours a day. like it would just never
30:08
stop because we'd so much work for them to
30:10
do so. Those. The Cbc.
30:13
Success. And there's another thing
30:15
about the seabees that. They.
30:18
Have to kind of improvise, adapt and overcome.
30:20
Yes, so they're going. It's like where do
30:23
you get a ten thousand gallon water tank
30:25
in Ramadi, Iraq in the summer of two
30:27
thousand and six yeah Know how to do
30:29
that? You got a figure out you in
30:31
a wheel. new gap relationships with people. We've
30:33
got to be all the trade stars as
30:36
you know he probably to. I don't know
30:38
what he did he mean at a given
30:40
which are able to get something for which
30:42
he did something that he did we had
30:44
do is he was also strong brand new.
30:47
His. Nickname was big. And
30:49
I didn't see would he would, he would
30:52
just wrap. Warm. Up reps
30:54
resist. Honest.
30:56
Honestly. Like.
30:59
I do one thirty five in
31:01
a warm ups you'd be doing
31:03
that with with three. System out
31:05
there was a huge huge huge
31:07
like and nights what's the what's
31:09
the style where. The they're.
31:11
Not lean but they're deftly not sat
31:13
there to Cj as far as if
31:16
he wasn't that she was just like
31:18
a large Sumi almost. you know, maybe
31:20
he's not quite the same species as
31:22
we only see her. Every hints sledges
31:25
that much different skin. Where you like
31:27
this is not each. it's not normal.
31:29
the bench three sistine does wrapping out
31:31
by the way to do. Is
31:34
foods not great? the in ear
31:36
out your own weird hours spear pieces in
31:39
their just jack to do so is why
31:41
the is just such so. Does.
31:44
The Cbc. Yet though he
31:46
seemed legit. like the idea of these guys and
31:48
Islamic like this and that actually Tv shows like
31:50
this to with the guys with the cars were
31:52
like hey let's just put roll cage on the
31:54
or whatever those are the latest know everything about.
31:57
they just know how they'll that's their their skill
31:59
you know where. The I do like I
32:01
said was like hey let's make us that's
32:03
like a tower right here and we're like
32:05
we will have them. which would I want
32:07
to find some she'll to build this actual
32:09
legitimate tower? Yup, you may have a scan
32:11
impressive and that's. Those that
32:13
was acoustic just having that skill set
32:15
is and me having access to a
32:17
week for instance or we want to
32:20
put obe observation, don't go. Give.
32:22
Me a few days.would have he would.
32:24
I don't have any this on but
32:26
I'm going to get it and you
32:29
have your Freedom Tower Sir who says
32:31
I like it is So check out
32:33
the Cbc news all day to day
32:35
Man. Or right. So.
32:39
These guys are now setting sail out
32:41
there. Crossed the Atlantic on May eighth.
32:43
Mighty Forty two your robbed and arrived
32:46
in Pogo. Pogo. Pago Pago Pago Pago
32:48
Pago Pago. Thank you. In
32:50
American Samoa the accept it would
32:52
be pronounced Panga Congo if I'm
32:55
not mistaken because at the ends
32:57
of energy. Okay, we'll
32:59
check whittlesea typical see the come
33:01
from have to take aspirin minute.
33:04
Take me Oh signed you up yes
33:06
I said Samoa she's xml more Some
33:09
I remember an eye out an office
33:11
said this online or offline but sometimes
33:13
you can be kind of seen as
33:15
a poser. that's like the authentic with
33:17
a sales or to someone you're gonna
33:19
say samoan right but then usually people
33:21
to see someone not like a rough
33:23
idea how we didn't wanna like stars
33:25
china of in homes and I wasn't
33:27
originally you want to stimulate on else
33:29
to say to my lane what you
33:31
but it's we It is funny though.
33:34
That I think America might be the only
33:36
one that does this. The only country that
33:38
does this work. if you say like the
33:40
earn a non english word or whatever and
33:42
you say it with the accent like people
33:44
like looked at zoo whenever like it's honey
33:46
see those a but i other countries they
33:48
say it with accent. Like. The
33:51
United States a proper with but we don't are
33:53
we knew don't. We
33:55
just say Samoa We were yeah exactly or
33:57
like even like in are you your order
33:59
like either. The action she said talk or
34:01
at noon or burrito right? but it should
34:03
be bullied or really right. But if he
34:05
if jackals over here it's a mess. The
34:07
me get a it's a water and a
34:09
burrito like be would be like school. what
34:11
the hell you know like they'll be like
34:13
i'm looking at you. funny though. We.
34:16
We don't do that. We don't
34:18
do that. My kids took Spanish
34:20
in high school and I think
34:22
they didn't like to be. Do.
34:25
You know thinning want to be the
34:27
gringo that they would speak? Like
34:29
full Spanish, but. For gringo
34:32
they have a favorite. Yeah, it is
34:34
because it because you learn a lot
34:36
of Spanish You know, grown up in
34:38
San Diego and now you're taken Spanish.
34:40
One, two, three, four, Five.
34:43
Six This are taken in Six Be so
34:45
you actually know a lot of Spanish and
34:47
but not even attempting to pretend or as
34:50
if your principal.you know they're not doing that.
34:52
There's a burrito that. So.
34:55
I was gonna. I got enough.
34:57
It's this Will. My mom is
34:59
from Canada and rights and so
35:02
Canada. Video
35:04
that spreads this week. friends in ten or
35:06
a lot of time to. So when she
35:08
would say the French words, she would say
35:10
it with the French accent m For whatever
35:13
reason, I. Would start
35:15
of the like were evil, have to try
35:17
to impress me bilinguals of France words in
35:19
Omaha, Nebraska while I really have a metaphor
35:21
for your mom and straddle rail service but
35:23
after a while I realized wait a second
35:25
that's like my bias I think you know
35:27
is in one people like it's almost like
35:29
you can sense of people try to do
35:31
that a conflict or printing press you with
35:34
their like have some worldly it off that
35:36
way of feals. I got enough. I'm not
35:38
saying that's what. happy other something better try
35:40
straight up trying to be respectful to the
35:42
native language read or hear the I used
35:44
to. Yeah, he thinks I'm I'm sure there's
35:46
a bunch of and there's some people have
35:48
think it's disrespectful to try and use that
35:50
accent when you're a how yeah, like what
35:53
you think you are you another thing yeah
35:55
and that. But here's the reality of it.
35:57
when you really can detach like by you
35:59
better start using that accent because that's what
36:01
you learn the language way better because you
36:03
know they say when you're little kid it's
36:05
easy to learn languages way easier because you
36:07
don't build like and lingual and habits or
36:10
whatever some. But then after they doing eighteen
36:12
or so I'm you. You can't get rid
36:14
of the accent apparently you says they are
36:16
you better charter Otherwise, Brian Mcclellan that language
36:18
good. You look like a better thing. The
36:20
try to use the accent Pro where we
36:22
these on that. Are now
36:25
weird. After this like this big
36:27
web of reason I guess here's what
36:29
I'm gonna do. I'm in a kind
36:31
of stick to my how way leads
36:33
to my my going always Siri go
36:35
back to the book On May nineteen
36:37
forty two so we arrived in Congo,
36:39
Tongo, American Samoa, There.
36:42
Was very little news that we get
36:45
aboard d from an homage to the
36:47
ship. However, I'd dirt didn't learn at
36:49
Pago. Pago Pago. that Corregidor had surrendered
36:52
on May Six. And
36:54
with that approx me seventeen officers and
36:57
on thousand four hundred seventy four enlisted
36:59
men of the force marines were captured.
37:03
From. Hunger Panga. We sailed around the beautiful
37:05
islands and I'll make and we disembarked
37:07
in the ship and went ashore. Had
37:09
higgins boats too. Beautiful. harbored as a
37:11
little town of app Yes so imagine
37:13
this your. You
37:16
know with your your part of America. A
37:19
Ass Best fighting force the world you get
37:21
on board your ship. When you get off
37:23
your ship. People.
37:25
Had surrendered Corregidor. By.
37:29
Where to place? What's what's interesting about
37:31
this is he noodles for he'd been
37:33
to those places dismember. He'd gone all
37:35
throughout the Southeast Asia. When
37:37
using the marines prior to the or ticking
37:39
off some he knows what that means. That.
37:42
Gonna be a little bit horrifying. Now
37:47
they're They're. on spear and
37:49
you've got somebody call details i mean
37:51
they're out there is a sort of
37:53
you get into the us neither after
37:55
living with the natives hanging out with
37:57
the natives they're very cool stories about
38:01
and of course on top of that back to the book each
38:03
day we held machine gun journal and I
38:05
would scout the area all the men
38:07
were so enthusiastic and everyone seemed to be learning
38:09
the Samoan language this was very
38:11
relaxing time in our service and it was
38:14
hard to believe that we were at war
38:16
again these are dudes like where she he's
38:18
from freakin Pennsylvania and now he's in American
38:20
Samoa or now he's in Appian he's just
38:23
beautiful hmm about
38:26
the 15th of July we received information
38:28
that Admiral Gormley had directed that the
38:30
7th Marines be ready to embark on
38:32
four days notice with 90 days supply
38:34
and 10 units of fire per weapon
38:37
that particular message naturally created quite a
38:39
bit of interest among the officers and
38:42
the non-commissioned officers as to where we
38:44
would be going I
38:46
was very disturbed that we were unable to
38:48
get any worldwide news I
38:51
miss the news news so much as
38:55
CMO Scott and several other members of my platoon
38:57
were always after me to give me my to
38:59
give them my prediction of what was happening us
39:01
and then going to somebody's a very well-read guy
39:03
you can kind of use you know who's he's
39:05
in the bookstore he talks a
39:07
lot about history and he studies history and
39:09
he goes to places he's learning about their
39:11
culture he's a very interested the guy he's
39:14
a very curious guy and clearly you tell
39:16
from the book that he's someone
39:18
that everyone kind of respected his opinion so his
39:20
world events are happening plus he's an older marine
39:22
lived in Asia he knows these things you
39:25
know you know much when
39:27
you've been to a place your knowledge of that
39:29
place is exponentially more than when you've heard about
39:31
it yeah so when someone says
39:33
oh when
39:36
you meet someone and and they say you
39:38
would you live and I say San Diego and they
39:40
say where in San Diego I always say have you been
39:42
there because if they haven't been to San
39:44
Diego it doesn't matter what I'm about to say yeah yeah you
39:46
know but if they've been to San Diego you're like oh we
39:48
can narrow it down and we but if they haven't been there
39:51
so here this guy's been all over in all these different countries
39:53
hmm and
39:55
he's well read so he's got knowledge but
39:57
there's no news coming in back
39:59
to the book My men were very ardent
40:01
listeners, and occasionally in training
40:03
lectures I would cite certain
40:05
references and quotes. One of my favorites,
40:08
for instance, I reminded them of what
40:10
the old French general told his troops
40:12
before they engaged the Germans in battle
40:14
in World War I. Quote,
40:17
There is no studying on the battlefield.
40:20
It is then simply a case of making
40:22
use of what one knows, and in order
40:24
to make a little possible, one
40:27
must know much. When
40:33
discussing possible carelessness in combat, such as
40:35
neglecting to move from cover to cover,
40:38
or failing to keep down low,
40:41
I reminded them of the great
40:43
German soldier statement Bismarck who once
40:45
said, Some say they learn from
40:47
experience, but I prefer to learn
40:49
from the experience of others. Our
40:54
marine amphibious warfare doctrine had proven itself
40:56
over and over in previous wars and
40:58
campaigns. So, again, this guy is
41:00
not a combat veteran at this point, but
41:02
he is a senior guy, and he's trying to get
41:04
his individuals trained up, trying to get him to move
41:07
from cover to cover. I
41:09
used to have that when I was coming
41:11
back and I was running training, and I'd see guys
41:13
walking in our urban training, I'd see
41:16
guys not standing by cover. I don't feel
41:18
sick. Guadalcanal.
41:24
So, now we're going to get into it.
41:30
We arrived in
41:32
Espirito Santo under
41:34
escort on September 12th. The
41:37
next day, Admiral Gormley ordered the
41:39
7th Marines to proceed to Guadalcanal.
41:42
So, at dawn on the 14th
41:44
of September, we left Espirito Santo
41:46
escorted by three cruisers plus several
41:48
destroyers and minesweepers. There
41:50
appeared to be some disagreement between
41:52
Rear Admiral Kelly Turner and Major
41:54
General Alexander A. Van
41:56
Der Grift, The Commanding General Of The
41:58
1st Marine Division on Guadalcanal. Now as
42:01
to where exactly we've worked to
42:03
land? According to
42:05
a Navy chief in the radio, she's
42:07
term wanted us to land about twenty
42:09
miles east of the perimeter. But.
42:11
General Vanda Griff wanted us closer
42:14
to the perimeters. In any event,
42:16
the weather was quite heavy, and
42:18
at dawn about spots five forty
42:20
five, we went ashore. So it's
42:22
even these guys. Like
42:24
the troops. They. Hear
42:27
about these old disagreements and the cheese
42:29
radio? Who's listening to them talk since
42:31
he spreads the gossip about what's happening?
42:33
Since two of our destroys were lobbing
42:36
shells in a nearby dumb, fast forward
42:38
it to ourselves. We're lobbing cells into
42:40
the nearby jungles, harassing the enemy while
42:43
we are carrying the crates off to
42:45
be sleep. The winner shorts. Up
42:48
into cover under the trees. Then suddenly
42:50
we heard anti aircraft firing all over
42:52
the place. Someone yelled that enemy Japanese
42:54
Euros were coming into strafe. I jump
42:56
behind some big crates. I was getting
42:58
ready to move as a plane when
43:00
zooming over us. He.
43:02
Was one of our own. And it
43:04
was a great misfortune that we had
43:07
crippled one of our own aircraft. I'm
43:09
sure that was an unusual incident with
43:11
all. The new people around.
43:14
Nonetheless, I knew then why
43:17
all our friends were constantly scanning
43:19
the skies and wire ships one
43:21
to pull out of the area
43:23
soon as possible. This was Guadalcanal,
43:25
British Solomon Islands America's first offensive
43:27
since the day the Japanese launch
43:29
their in from this attack on
43:31
Pearl Harbor. December seventh and Forty
43:33
one. Earlier. Know.
43:40
I read about their baptism rights. A
43:42
moment later, the booming some see our
43:44
channel came the horrifying red hot naval
43:47
gunfire ripping up trees and causing the
43:49
earth to move on to use as
43:51
each big round came crashing the. this
43:53
was our baptism as I lay there
43:56
on the ground at Guadalcanal. I wonder
43:58
how many of those ships. Hounding
44:00
us at night I'd seen previously in
44:02
Shanghai and other ports in China. I
44:04
wonder too how much that flying steal
44:07
the came out us from hundreds of
44:09
shiploads of scrap iron the Japanese hold
44:11
out of our country before the war.
44:15
I. Also thought about all those
44:17
steel mills back home in Pennsylvania
44:19
that a practice that had produced
44:22
practically all that scrap iron originally.
44:25
To. Says the first raise of dawn were creeping
44:27
into the sky, I felt it was safe to
44:29
sit ups. As I looked around. Me
44:31
To ascertain that weird noise and sword
44:34
was, I saw it's just a few
44:36
inches from where my outstretched seeded been.
44:38
A boost looking chunk of steel about
44:40
eleven or twelve inches long and about
44:42
four five inches thick was lying on
44:44
the ground. As.
44:46
I said to some of the men near me. Hey.
44:50
Look at dig. Look at a gift tojo. Just.
44:53
I reached over to pick it up
44:55
and I quickly released it as if
44:57
I was bleeding from the tips of
44:59
all of my fingers. There wasn't a
45:01
spot on that chunk of Japanese naval
45:03
shell. Fragments of sneaking risking on it's
45:06
razor sharp surface. If it dropped on
45:08
any part of me, it would have
45:10
undoubtedly severed the park completely from my
45:12
body. was a miracle, but not a
45:14
single man. Why Putin was hurt during
45:16
the bombardment. Hundreds of five and six
45:18
inch and eight and shells crashing into
45:20
the ground all around us. Assists.
45:27
I. Told you put the. This
45:30
when people think of shrapnel. The.
45:33
Think of little tiny pieces of shrapnel. And
45:36
when you have a small several six
45:38
million or mordor or a forty millimeter
45:40
grenade the gets shot out of a
45:42
to oh sorry mike of what you
45:45
see in the movies know what underneath
45:47
your m sixteen. Don't. Have
45:49
a great launcher! That.
45:51
A forty millimeter grenade. The teeny fragments
45:53
from that sixteen millimeter tiny little fragments
45:56
you start getting into these. Five and
45:58
six and eight. It. We
46:00
are hit with some. Hundred and
46:03
twenty millimeter. Mortars, And
46:05
A freaking. Jag
46:07
good. Twelve.
46:10
Inch long piece of metal
46:12
that are happening sector heavy
46:14
Miss. Their. Heavy and just like
46:17
he described. They're all to sharp. It's.
46:21
A. It's.
46:24
Way different than what you think yes
46:26
and looks any frank until you're right.
46:28
I'm eager to deal with a tiny
46:30
piece of rag, but it goes into
46:32
your a order or it. Cuts.
46:35
When your veins and you bleed out sure
46:37
he can be bad are obviously he chooses
46:39
in the brain or did you the head
46:42
but man you see those be Juri a
46:44
piece of fracked and I think. Lace
46:48
had one Lace guys had one that
46:50
landed like next to them. I had
46:53
won the first. The first time I
46:55
saw that we are more dirt and
46:57
teaching our children were me guy. And
47:00
but I was behind a wall. And.
47:03
But he killed an army guy. I'm.
47:06
That we track and that was the first time.
47:09
That I will I I realized. That
47:12
tweet. Horror of
47:14
indirect fire and of what
47:16
those are two will be
47:18
shells and mortar shells do
47:21
and why they're so devastating.
47:24
Yeah. the in Italy's before would
47:26
like shrapnel. When. You think
47:28
shrapnel you think and I you know like
47:30
me be like an empty aluminium can sign
47:33
of comparatively speaking, it's like aluminum cans twisted
47:35
in Santa ripped up in like ten a
47:37
thrown at you really really really hard. The
47:39
new like. Some
47:41
flak jacket on in our something like
47:43
this. you be like okay me in
47:45
a may get scratched up for sir.
47:47
but yeah you know I never did.
47:49
A new of is enough. but yeah
47:51
that the reality. especially when you sit
47:53
on. yes sometimes they're like the size
47:55
of a hammer or something that's tanks
47:57
and. you get into considered home park
48:00
those explosions are it's like probably it's
48:02
like someone's literally shooting a hammer at
48:04
you. Yeah and it's going wildly and
48:07
it's super hot. Yeah yeah and hot.
48:09
It's a nightmare. And
48:11
you know I've gotten mortared too with little
48:14
mortars and they seem real. Real
48:16
kind of. They sound
48:18
kind of weak. Like
48:21
you can tell like I'm
48:23
16 even an 80 millimeter mortar
48:25
80 millimeter mortars legit. 60 millimeter
48:28
mortars it's like a cracking sound
48:30
more but 120 millimeter mortar
48:33
when it hits it's it's a massive
48:35
explosion. It's a shocking
48:37
explosion. Way more than
48:40
a than a 60 millimeter. I
48:43
would have to remember what the explosive
48:45
weight of the boots probably 10 times bigger.
48:48
So it rocks your world. Yeah
48:51
it's good. And just imagine
48:53
these guys like I'm sitting here talking about 320 millimeter
48:58
mortars hitting outside
49:00
the wall. Imagine
49:02
sitting there no protection no
49:05
overhead cover for
49:07
hours and they're shooting hundreds
49:09
of these things at you. Yeah. That's
49:12
what these guys are enduring and by the way they just showed up.
49:16
The battle's just kicking off. Back to the
49:18
book for the next several days it was
49:20
foxhole digging and manning the line. Nearly every
49:22
day at least one Japanese sniper was shot
49:25
out of a tree. They would tie themselves
49:27
in a tree at night and try and
49:29
pick off Marines during the day which they
49:31
did occasionally. Their camouflage was superb as they
49:33
were they were extremely difficult to locate. The
49:36
enemy planes overhead were overhead almost daily trying
49:38
to knock out Henderson Field. At night enemy
49:40
warships would slip into sea large channel and
49:42
try to do the same thing and lob
49:44
a few shells into the front lines for
49:46
good measure. Each night the other battle was
49:49
the ever present
49:51
malaria carrying mosquito. Then
49:55
too at night every tree seemed to take
49:57
the shape of an enemy soldier and the
49:59
men worked quick to challenge. The
50:01
password was always a word with
50:03
L's like Honolulu, which
50:06
was difficult for the enemy to pronounce
50:08
distinctly. Even with that it
50:10
was dangerous to move around at night. One
50:13
night one of my gun
50:15
crew got up quietly and
50:17
went back to the back of
50:19
the line to relieve himself, and as
50:21
he returned another man quickly turned around
50:24
and at point blank range fired in
50:26
the dark killing the Marine instantly, his
50:29
best buddy. He
50:32
went into shock and had to be taken
50:34
into the battalion sickbay. I
50:37
knew there would be an investigation as soon as
50:39
the report reached headquarters. I
50:42
was afraid that unfortunate incident might
50:45
disturb the emotions of the men, thereby
50:47
jeopardizing our effectiveness as fighters, however they
50:49
were accepted as a twist of fate.
51:04
This is what happens. Guys get
51:06
freaking scared, they get jumpy, you know, you
51:09
talk about every tree turns into an enemy
51:11
soldier. I've told you about this in Ramadi,
51:14
humvees shooting at other
51:16
humvees. Think of how crazy
51:18
that is. The
51:20
humvee has the most distinct vehicle
51:25
profile of any
51:27
vehicle. There would be times
51:31
where humvees would
51:33
shoot at other humvees because they were just
51:35
freaking scared and see movement. It's like oh,
51:37
take a couple seconds and what are you
51:39
supposed to do? What are
51:42
you supposed to do now? I see I'm getting shot
51:44
at by a humvee. I know. Wait a second. Is
51:46
that an enemy? Did an enemy get hold of our
51:49
humvee? I don't think so, but they're shooting at us.
51:51
They're keeps you see what I'm saying. It's a freaking
51:53
nightmare. Fast
51:56
forward a little bit. We Had air raids practically every
51:58
day during the rest of the day. The Much:
52:00
Each night the Japanese observation plane Washing
52:02
Machine Charlie's with overhead buzzing around the
52:05
perimeter and dropping flares periodically. On the
52:07
Twenty seventh of September with Unix Systems
52:09
three enemy aircraft in the sky over
52:11
us the next day, we counted Twenty
52:14
Eight Bombers Informations: These raids continued for
52:16
the rest of the month for the
52:18
better part of October. On the seventh
52:21
of October, instead of a move along
52:23
the perimeter, we were moving west. Out.
52:26
Toward the man. the man
52:28
in out river. My.
52:37
Machine Gun. So now they're on move.
52:39
My machine gun platoon was assigned the
52:42
mission of setting up on High Command
52:44
and ground to lend overhead fire across
52:46
the medical river. On
52:52
the twelfth of know our topic in a
52:54
password. Get This book. Did.
52:56
Just Get This book. Have said that You get this book.
52:59
A. Marine A match. First
53:02
person account. On the
53:04
twelfth of October, we are also making our way
53:06
back to the perimeter. During the movement, we had
53:08
an air raid which held us up for some
53:10
time. I was proud of my men. They.
53:13
May have been young an age but they were all
53:15
loyal fighting men. I knew I had the best will
53:17
tune in a core. When. The
53:19
situation is critical and Er nurse were pretty
53:22
well taxed. Someone would always come up with
53:24
something to ease the tension. Such
53:27
as. Wonder. What all the monkeys
53:29
in the trees do during a naval bombardment? Together.
53:33
Still have a good time. To.
53:37
Data: Gallows Humor.
53:41
We're getting some news from the airstrips and
53:43
all of it was very disheartening to a
53:45
lot of casualties in our precious fighters and
53:47
bombers were strewn all over the fields. Later
53:49
that day we learned that actually forty nine
53:51
of our planes had been destroyed on the
53:54
ground. This.
53:56
Is the biggest Ross we'd suffered. Campaign started
53:58
on the seven Dwarves. The Japanese
54:01
were determined to knock us out as
54:03
quickly as they could it was really
54:05
disheartening the next day as Japanese ships
54:07
brought their Transports into the
54:09
channel in bright daylight and
54:11
calmly unloaded their troops and
54:13
supplies What
54:17
a freaking nightmare More
54:20
bad news arrived word had been
54:22
received that Vice Admiral Gormley Commander
54:25
of the South Pacific area had proclaimed
54:27
that due to the extensive damage Suffered
54:29
on our airstrips and the fact that
54:31
our ships could not come in with
54:33
additional men and supplies that the first
54:35
Marine division would have to fight it
54:38
out alone as there was no other
54:40
way Like
54:42
how much ammo do you have you know what I mean? How
54:44
much ammo do you have? How much water do you have?
54:47
Okay, we got some rivers. Okay, how much food do you
54:49
have? What about
54:51
overhead protection? What
54:53
about when the Japanese is coming there
54:55
so sure imagine what a freaking nightmare
54:57
This is when the word that you
54:59
get is that your entire support structure
55:02
is leaving Malaria
55:09
by the way malaria was starting to hit my
55:11
men as it was practically everyone
55:14
on Guadalcanal But
55:16
there was some encouraging and welcoming news that
55:18
came along the lines Admiral
55:20
Gormley had been relieved the
55:23
aggressive Vice Admiral William F
55:26
Bull Halsey had taken his place a
55:28
cheer win up along the lines when
55:31
it was reported that Halsey's message was
55:34
By God if the Marines can
55:36
stay the Navy will stay That
55:40
was enough to lift the spirits of our fighting men,
55:42
that's what I'm talking about a coward
55:45
by the way a coward that's gonna
55:47
just abandon the troops and man
55:52
That's that's often says. Okay, we're staying for to
55:54
leave the Marines are going to stay and support
55:56
him. During.
56:04
One attack while lying flat much
56:06
jungle for Supine week and we
56:08
were having heavy air attacks that
56:10
one of my men, William Be
56:12
Synced would sit alongside me as
56:14
the bombs were released by the
56:16
enemy Japanese bombers flying overhead. I
56:18
ordered spouse to get Miss Foxhole
56:21
during the raids, but he always
56:23
refused as he wanted to stick
56:25
by me. As. You would kill
56:27
me. He would sit
56:29
alongside me and pray for us. This
56:31
one particular time, I heard a string
56:33
of bombs coming down. And
56:36
as my head was flat to the ground,
56:38
I could feel that with each burst we
56:40
were right in the drop. As.
56:43
The explosions came closer. One
56:45
bomb drop just to are
56:47
right. And the next
56:49
one I was sure would be a direct
56:51
hit on so stunned me. Continued
56:55
his brains out loud. And
56:58
the next room dropped into a soggy
57:00
part of the jungle a few yards
57:03
away from us, throwing mud all over
57:05
us, making a huge crater in the
57:07
ground. I
57:09
told Soused that I attributed are being
57:11
alive. To. His fervent
57:13
prayers and then joined. And then
57:16
he joined me and reciting my
57:18
favorite song, First.
57:26
To. Achieve
57:28
a level of experience,
57:31
Of getting bombed. To
57:34
where. You're making
57:36
These calculations. Of
57:38
oh yup, we're in the bomb pattern.
57:40
Oh, there's one that's you know, eighty
57:42
yards that way, all the next, almost
57:44
sixty yards that way to the next
57:46
one's gonna be to. you know it?
57:49
I it's It's crazy to think that
57:51
these guys had that much experience of
57:53
getting bombed. That
57:56
he's knowing where the next one's going to.
58:01
Very lucky to that hidden might.
58:04
Add some guys in Ramadi get. Ambushed.
58:09
In the middle of a sealed now only
58:12
one of the group one squad or actually
58:14
one Element One fire team was out in
58:16
the middle class. Across as Big Opener it's
58:18
he left the other element back in the
58:21
dike to freaking cover for them in case
58:23
something happened. Journal something happens but the mortars
58:25
that they got hit with babies. we all
58:27
went into the mud and detonated. So.
58:30
Doesn't. Put. Out a big brother Frank
58:33
battered oh you, lay down and six. Bones.
58:35
Keeps happening. Six inches down early
58:37
in the mud so isn't was okay.
58:40
That's reminds me of this right
58:42
here. On
58:46
the afternoon of October twenty fourth, a
58:49
large body of Japanese troops were observed
58:51
making their way east towards our perimeter.
58:53
sort of be China gone in a
58:55
position several days earlier was in, but
58:57
he was in that position, that are,
58:59
but China been given orders to feel
59:01
in and tie in with the left
59:03
flank of Third Battalion. Colonel Hammock In
59:05
had given each of the company commanders
59:07
their final orders and we were to
59:09
stop the enemy at all costs to
59:11
prevent him from taking our precious airfields,
59:13
without which there would be little hope
59:15
for all Americans. On Guadalcanal. Stop
59:23
the enemy at all costs.
59:27
And when you when you can,
59:29
when you understand that particle picture
59:32
of oh, wait a second. If
59:34
they take us off this point,
59:36
they're gonna run through us. And
59:39
they're gonna have your field everyone hears gonna
59:41
die. Our.
59:45
Job as a heavy machine gun
59:47
for Tude would be to find
59:49
the best terrain for a final
59:52
protective line with interlocking bands of
59:54
grazing fire. We
1:00:01
came up to a new position
1:00:04
in darkness the evening of October
1:00:06
twenty fourth, going slowly and carefully
1:00:08
along the winding trail carrying all
1:00:10
of our it's heavy water cooled
1:00:12
machine guns, ammunition, impersonal weapons and
1:00:14
tax while stumbling on tangled roots.
1:00:16
The footing underneath it was difficult
1:00:18
in the body turf under the
1:00:20
umbrella of tall rain forest, lush
1:00:22
tropical trees that incessantly dripped rain.
1:00:24
The ridge on top was cannot
1:00:26
grasp, but hard as cement underneath.
1:00:28
Nobody had the strength left enough
1:00:30
to dig himself. A foxhole before he
1:00:32
able to set up our guns. The
1:00:35
drizzle turned into a heavy downpour. Fast
1:00:40
forward I told my men to drop their
1:00:42
loads while I made a survey of our
1:00:44
new position. was crossing my fingers hoping that
1:00:46
I didn't wander into an ambush are set
1:00:48
off a booby traps. I dropped my gear
1:00:50
with the first squad as started out with
1:00:52
only my pistol in my hand, I crawled
1:00:54
along the ground groping my way forward by
1:00:56
hand. When I reached out and sell the
1:00:58
ridge dropping away on all sides I returned
1:01:00
to my men and said we would set
1:01:02
up along that know. We.
1:01:04
Need We set up a guns and
1:01:06
after the thirty caliber waterproof guns have
1:01:09
been in place in their designated positions
1:01:11
I read sturdy wants for night. We
1:01:13
crawled around on that web ground and
1:01:15
I distributed say meager rash of spam
1:01:17
by scooping the meats out of can
1:01:19
with my fingers and dropping each man's
1:01:22
portion into his stressed. In.
1:01:31
That blacks ask for a matte black
1:01:33
cave of night. The only reality was
1:01:35
the rain drenched in us and knowledge
1:01:37
that somewhere in the jungles around us
1:01:39
other men were waiting to kill us.
1:01:44
I felt a very deep sense of responsibility
1:01:46
for my men and officers. That.
1:01:54
There's. A picture. Of.
1:01:57
That. a com brecht cameramen talk
1:01:59
of Guys
1:02:02
in Tasking Appruiser and they're going down the street. You
1:02:05
can see they're in a staggered
1:02:07
file. So there's guys on one side of the street, guys on the
1:02:09
other side of the street. And
1:02:13
being out there, you're watching that
1:02:16
and you're literally
1:02:19
waiting for the gunfire to start.
1:02:24
That's this
1:02:26
idea of waiting, that there's someone
1:02:29
waiting. And when you're
1:02:31
in a city, imagine how many places
1:02:33
can you get shot at? This is the same as a jungle. Like, when
1:02:35
you're in a jungle, where can you get shot at from? You
1:02:38
can get shot at from so many different
1:02:40
directions. A jungle's actually a little bit
1:02:42
more compressed, right? You're
1:02:45
not going to get shot. You can't be seen that far
1:02:47
away. The SEALs in Vietnam, they'd
1:02:49
get enemy contacts and be like 20 feet away.
1:02:52
And then when they'd move 20 yards, they
1:02:54
couldn't see the enemy anymore. They wouldn't even get shot anymore.
1:02:57
In some cases. You're
1:02:59
in the city, you could get shot from a
1:03:02
window that's 10 yards away or
1:03:04
a doorway that's 600
1:03:07
yards away. And
1:03:09
everything in between those two is a legitimate
1:03:12
threat. Yeah,
1:03:14
it's great. Because you pointed that out a while ago, where
1:03:16
you were like, hey, I work downtown. And
1:03:19
then you have the front door outside. Every
1:03:23
single doorway or window that you
1:03:26
can see. Every single one
1:03:28
that you can see. Don't care if it's
1:03:30
100 meters away. Don't care if it's like 10 meters away.
1:03:32
Like every single one, that's a potential spot
1:03:34
for an enemy person. Crazy
1:03:37
man. And what
1:03:40
was I talking about this the other day? The
1:03:44
timing. You know there was a captain
1:03:46
from the army from the 1st of 506. And
1:03:51
great guy. So focused. So
1:03:53
professional. He had video. He
1:03:58
had like a camera set up in his... Humvee and
1:04:00
it was just a video of the street. He would
1:04:02
just watch the video so he would get to know
1:04:04
like where the trash was, where the doorway was, what
1:04:06
looked out of place. But
1:04:10
the first time I went with him into the city, he's
1:04:13
like, oh, we're gonna get contacted in 30 minutes.
1:04:15
Start your stopwatch. And I was like, okay, cool.
1:04:18
And sure enough, 27 minutes in, pop,
1:04:21
pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, and it's on. So
1:04:24
you know you're
1:04:27
gonna get contacted. You know it. Stoner's
1:04:31
Element over in Cregidor got contacted
1:04:33
by the enemy. 24
1:04:37
straight missions in a row. 24
1:04:42
straight missions in a row. You
1:04:45
know, I talked to guys from Vietnam, they've gotten, again,
1:04:48
this is some of the guys in Vietnam, some of
1:04:50
the SEALs in Vietnam. Maybe like, oh yeah, we got
1:04:52
six contacts on all of deployment. Look, some
1:04:54
guys were more than that, but some of them, that
1:04:56
was, that's legit. And
1:04:59
here's Stoner's, JP's crew out there, freaking
1:05:01
24 straight
1:05:04
missions, getting enemy contact. So
1:05:08
that feeling that these guys had of like, oh, they're
1:05:10
out there waiting to kill us, I
1:05:13
would absolutely have that feeling in the streets.
1:05:15
I'd absolutely have that feeling. Yeah. Especially
1:05:20
watching my guys. For
1:05:22
some reason, I never really felt like much like I
1:05:24
would get wounded or killed. You
1:05:28
go back to Dean Ladd, Dean
1:05:30
Ladd, who Marine going into
1:05:32
Tarawa, and he was on the podcast, and
1:05:36
unfortunately he passed away, God bless him. But
1:05:40
we were talking to him, and I'm reading from his book
1:05:42
about he's getting ready to go to Tarawa, and I said,
1:05:44
you know, were you nervous? Were you scared of getting dying?
1:05:46
And he's, oh no, that was gonna happen to the other
1:05:48
guy. I thought to myself,
1:05:50
man, that is such a
1:05:52
good young man feeling that I absolutely
1:05:55
had. But the
1:05:57
feeling, the sickness that you get is watching. You see
1:05:59
your guys. You don't want you guys get hurt guys.
1:06:01
I want you guys get shot. So you're watching the
1:06:07
450,000 threats that are ahead of you as the platoons
1:06:09
walking down the street And
1:06:15
that's what he's feeling I felt a very
1:06:17
deep sense of responsibility for my men and
1:06:19
my officers as I lay there thinking about
1:06:21
Them it was so dark that nothing existed
1:06:24
save what could be heard or felt the
1:06:26
predominant emotion was probably Loneliness and an overwhelming
1:06:28
sense of isolation even though though I knew
1:06:30
I had the best officers and men in
1:06:32
the world here with me I thought about
1:06:34
some of the lessons from sergeant Nagy and
1:06:36
corporal Webb had taught me in boot camp
1:06:38
I thought of all my Confrontations in with
1:06:41
the Japanese in the Philippines and in China
1:06:43
as much as I dreaded killing Respected the
1:06:45
enemy in uniform on the battlefield as I
1:06:47
knew I would be doing the job He
1:06:50
was assigned to do and that was to
1:06:52
seek out destroy his enemy. I Knew
1:06:56
that what we would be facing at any moment
1:06:58
was a case of kill or be killed At
1:07:03
about 0 200 fast-forward about 0 200
1:07:05
I was startled into a
1:07:08
charged wakefulness by what were
1:07:10
unmistakably low mumbling sounds I
1:07:12
woke up PFC Schmitty Smith
1:07:15
and together we strained our ears a
1:07:17
few minutes later We heard the same
1:07:19
sounds again. I was certain I heard
1:07:21
a few Japanese words I
1:07:24
knew that exposing our position by opening fire would not
1:07:26
be wise But then neither would
1:07:28
be sitting back and letting the Japanese infiltrate
1:07:30
the perimeter They might at any moment at
1:07:32
that moment already be preparing to charge our
1:07:35
lines I was so relieved that
1:07:37
my men were not trigger happy as was
1:07:39
a common thing with so many men Japanese
1:07:41
could be seen everywhere at night Every
1:07:43
limb in a tree took the form
1:07:46
of an enemy sniper Kunai grass took
1:07:48
the shape of an enemy moving towards
1:07:50
you Marines fired thousands of rounds at
1:07:52
shadows. My men were truly hardened professional
1:07:54
fighting Marines I trusted my men and
1:07:56
I knew they trusted me as we
1:07:58
had worked together for nearly two
1:08:00
years as a team. I resolved this matter when
1:08:02
I quickly decided to get this over with right
1:08:04
now. I still wasn't entirely sure if I was
1:08:06
doing the right thing. I pulled the pin from
1:08:09
a hand grenade and pitched it over the slope
1:08:11
where we had heard the noise.
1:08:13
As soon as my men
1:08:15
heard that click, they too followed suit with
1:08:17
a cascade of grenades. There
1:08:19
were a number of muffled explosions. There
1:08:22
were also screams of pain. Bob Smitty
1:08:25
and I were pulling pins and letting and
1:08:27
quickly letting them over the side, just like
1:08:29
the old baseball days. Then
1:08:31
silence descended on the knoll and
1:08:33
the jungle and that was the end of it.
1:08:37
So what's interesting about
1:08:39
grenades is you, especially
1:08:42
at night, you don't know where they came from. So
1:08:45
you don't have to give away your position. You can
1:08:47
just toss grenades. Huck a grenade out there. Fast
1:08:53
forward. Throughout the daylight hours of October 25th,
1:08:55
we tended to our weapons and we waited
1:08:57
for some apprehension for night
1:08:59
to fall. All that day
1:09:01
the Imperial Japanese Navy sent warships down
1:09:03
to shell our installations. There
1:09:06
were also numerous dogfights all
1:09:08
over the skies between zeros and our marine
1:09:11
grummin' wildcats. Let's
1:09:13
go. Dave Burke. Reports
1:09:18
at Colonel Hannigan's command post indicated
1:09:20
a strong Japanese force had engaged
1:09:22
the 1st Battalion Marine some 2,000
1:09:25
yards south of Henderson Field the night before.
1:09:27
That apparently was the main thrust of the
1:09:29
Japanese assault mounted by General
1:09:31
Ma'thau Maruyama's 2nd
1:09:35
Sendai Division minus the
1:09:37
shattered 4th Regiment, a total of perhaps 16,000 men.
1:09:41
The
1:09:43
Division's motto, and he's talking about
1:09:45
this Japanese division, the
1:09:48
Division's motto was, Remember
1:09:50
that death is lighter than a feather, but
1:09:53
that duty is heavier than a mountain.
1:09:58
For the Sendai Division, Feathers
1:10:00
flew in great numbers, the
1:10:03
mountain proved too heavy. They
1:10:07
were held off by a determined battalion
1:10:09
of Marines under chesty puller, with
1:10:11
the help of an Army battalion under
1:10:14
Lieutenant Colonel Robert Hall. Fast
1:10:18
forward while Major Connolly and I had been
1:10:20
walking around our front and I casually remarked
1:10:23
and I questioned the reason for our present
1:10:25
position. He pointed down through the jungles and
1:10:27
slopes and said, really, Mitch, there
1:10:30
is hardly anything between here and a
1:10:32
straight shot right into Henderson Field. As
1:10:34
a matter of fact, even chesty and the Army wouldn't
1:10:36
be aware of it as they are south of the
1:10:38
airport. I then realized the
1:10:40
real significance of the piece of real
1:10:43
estate that we now commanded. I
1:10:46
had the greatest respect and admiration
1:10:48
for both Colonel Hannigan and Major
1:10:50
Connolly as both were my idea
1:10:53
of a real Marine officer, tall,
1:10:55
athletic, powerful, lean, tough Marines. I
1:10:58
would have gone anywhere with either one as
1:11:01
I knew they were leaders and
1:11:03
fighters. When
1:11:11
darkness fell on October 25th, I knew the
1:11:13
Japanese were definitely coming and I
1:11:15
knew my orders were that we had
1:11:18
to defend our ridge at any cost.
1:11:24
I talked with each man, instructing
1:11:27
him that we would have 100% watch
1:11:29
tonight and to withhold their machine gun
1:11:32
fire until they actually saw enemy in
1:11:34
front of them. Fast
1:11:39
forward and here we go. The
1:11:43
bushes rustled and the
1:11:45
maddening voices continued their soft mutterings,
1:11:48
but still nothing could be seen. Then
1:11:52
I dimly sensed a dark figure
1:11:54
lurking near Gaston's position. I
1:11:56
grabbed a grenade, pulled the pin and held
1:11:58
down the ground. the lever ready to throw
1:12:01
it. Around
1:12:03
me I could hear the others also pulling pins as
1:12:05
we did the night before. We
1:12:07
heard the ration cans rattle. They'd
1:12:10
set a little indicator, a little early warning system
1:12:12
of ration cans on strings. So they heard a
1:12:14
little. We heard the ration
1:12:16
cans rattle and then somebody let out
1:12:18
a shriek and instantaneously the
1:12:21
battle erupted. Grenades
1:12:24
were exploding all over the ridge nose.
1:12:26
Japanese rifles and machine guns fired blindly
1:12:28
into the night and
1:12:30
the first wave of enemy troops
1:12:32
swarmed into our position from the
1:12:35
jungle flanking Gaston's gun. Stansberry
1:12:37
was pulling the pins out of his grenades
1:12:39
with his teeth and lobbing them down into
1:12:41
the slope of the jungle. Leipart
1:12:46
was skying them overhead like a baseball
1:12:48
pitcher. The tension
1:12:50
burst like a balloon and many
1:12:52
men found themselves cursing, growling, screaming
1:12:55
like banshees. The Japanese were yelling
1:12:57
bonsai blood for the emperor. Stansberry
1:13:01
in spontaneous tribute to President
1:13:03
Roosevelt's wife shouted back blood
1:13:05
for Eleanor. The
1:13:07
battleground was lit by flashes of machine
1:13:10
gun fire pierced by the arching red
1:13:12
patterns of tracing tracer bullets shaken by
1:13:14
the blast of shells laid down no
1:13:17
more than 30 yards in
1:13:19
front of the ridge by Captain
1:13:21
Louis Ditta's 60 millimeter mortars. It
1:13:23
was a confusing mousetrum with
1:13:26
dark shapes crawling across the ground
1:13:29
or swirling in clump knots, struggling
1:13:31
men falling on each other with
1:13:34
bayonet swords and other violent oaths.
1:13:38
After the first volley of American grenades
1:13:40
exploded, the wave of Japanese crowding onto
1:13:42
the knoll thickened. PFC Charles
1:13:44
H. Locke was killed from a burst
1:13:46
of enemy machine gun fire.
1:13:51
I screamed fire machine
1:13:53
guns fire. And
1:13:55
with that the machine guns opened up and
1:13:57
with them all the rifles and to me.
1:14:00
guns in the flickering light. I
1:14:02
saw a fierce struggle taking place for the
1:14:05
number two gun. Several Japanese
1:14:07
soldiers were racing towards Leipert, who
1:14:09
was kneeling apparently already hit. I
1:14:12
managed to shoot two of them. While
1:14:15
the third lowered his bayonet and lunged,
1:14:17
Leipert was the smallest man in the
1:14:19
platoon weighing barely 125 pounds.
1:14:21
The Japanese soldier ran him through, the
1:14:23
force of the thrust lifting him high
1:14:26
in the air. I
1:14:29
took careful aim and shot
1:14:31
Leipert's killer. Gaston
1:14:33
was flat on his back, scrambling away
1:14:35
from a Japanese officer who was hacking
1:14:37
at him with a two handed samurai
1:14:39
sword and grunting with exertion. Gaston tried
1:14:41
desperately to block the samurai sword with
1:14:43
a Springfield. He had picked up off
1:14:45
the ground apparently Leipert's. One
1:14:48
of his legs was badly cut from the blows. The
1:14:51
rifle soon splintered. The Japanese officer
1:14:53
raised his sword for the killing
1:14:56
thrust and Gaston with maniac strength
1:14:58
snaked his good leg up and caught the
1:15:01
man under the chin with his boom docker,
1:15:03
a violent blow that broke the Japanese neck.
1:15:06
The attackers ran past Gaston's gun and
1:15:09
spread out, concentrating their fire on
1:15:11
the left flank gun manned by
1:15:13
Corporal John Grant, PFC Sam H.
1:15:15
Scott and Willis A.
1:15:17
Hinson. Within minutes Scott was
1:15:19
killed and Hinson was wounded in the head.
1:15:23
Then Joseph A. Palosky was
1:15:25
killed. Stansberry, who had been near
1:15:27
me, was hit in the shoulder. But
1:15:29
the last time I saw him he was still fighting
1:15:31
with his Tommy gun, ferociously
1:15:34
shouting, charge, charge, blood
1:15:37
for Eleanor. Corporal
1:15:40
Petty John on the right cried out
1:15:42
in anguish. My guns jammed. I was
1:15:44
too busy to answer his call for
1:15:46
help. At the center we were beating
1:15:49
back the seemingly endless wall of Japanese coming
1:15:51
up the gentle slope at the front of
1:15:53
the position. There
1:15:56
Were at that point approximately 75 enemy
1:15:58
soldiers crashing through the platoon. Most
1:16:00
of them on the left flank, but the
1:16:02
main force of the attack had already begun
1:16:04
to ebb. The reads was crowded with fighting
1:16:06
men. It seemed somehow I z to be
1:16:08
recalled putting up my left hand just as
1:16:10
enemy soldier lunged at me with a fixed
1:16:13
bayonets. He must have been off balance as
1:16:15
the point of the bayonet ship between my
1:16:17
little finger and ring finger on not to
1:16:19
let me carry it off. And
1:16:22
as he went by me he
1:16:24
dropped dead on the ground. Speed
1:16:26
enemy started to melt down the
1:16:28
slopes and almost before they were
1:16:30
outside Navy corpsman begin sneaking forward
1:16:32
to treat the wounded at petty
1:16:34
jobs gun James. Nabil
1:16:36
Mcnabb. And. Michael
1:16:39
as Pats swing swing
1:16:41
it were badly wounded.
1:16:44
And. Had to be moved off the line.
1:16:46
Stansbury was still around and didn't want to
1:16:48
leave the I crawled over. petty jobs gone.
1:16:50
What's wrong with it's petty John. Said.
1:16:52
A ruptured cartridge which refused to
1:16:55
budge. I. Said move over and
1:16:57
fumbled with the switch to fingers broke
1:16:59
off a male completely but somehow pride
1:17:01
the slug out with a combination tool
1:17:03
which I felt in a spare parts
1:17:05
kit into the tribes. I.
1:17:08
Also changed the belt said the belt
1:17:10
see Paul which had been damaged in
1:17:12
the rust slamming trying to get the
1:17:14
round out that he john itself covered
1:17:16
me. Though the
1:17:18
first assault had swapped, a number of
1:17:21
enemy soldiers had sunni to the top
1:17:23
of a tall hardwood trees growing up
1:17:25
from the jungle between the platoon fox
1:17:27
Companies position From this vantage point that
1:17:29
could directly punishing plunging fire down in
1:17:32
two directions. The. Men in foxholes
1:17:34
along the crests were especially vulnerable. Bob
1:17:37
De Jonge and Markets and John W.
1:17:39
Police were wounded and help the back
1:17:42
of a linebacker. Corpsman. I
1:17:46
was getting ready to feed a new belt
1:17:48
of ammunition and a petty John's gun. my
1:17:50
left hand self very slippery, sorry rub it
1:17:52
in the dirks under the tripod. Have a
1:17:54
gun. Then as I reached up to
1:17:56
hold the built a Guinness of the shop is
1:17:58
a decent. And. dab of hot pain
1:18:00
in my hand. I
1:18:03
fell back momentarily and flapped my arm and
1:18:05
stared angrily at the gun, which
1:18:07
might have been wrecked by a
1:18:09
burst of fire from a Japanese
1:18:11
nambu-like machine gun almost immediately. A
1:18:15
second assault wave came washing over our
1:18:17
positions. This attack was more successful than
1:18:19
the first. Oliver Hinckley and
1:18:21
William R. Dudley were wounded. Hinson
1:18:24
over on the left gun, already wounded,
1:18:26
continued to fire until
1:18:28
all his supporting rifles were
1:18:30
silenced. He
1:18:33
then withdrew down around the hill in
1:18:35
the rear of George Company, putting the
1:18:37
gun out of action before he left
1:18:40
as I instructed. The
1:18:42
section had been hit hard with mortars and
1:18:44
grenades, causing severe shock to all the men,
1:18:47
one of them being August P. Marquez.
1:18:51
All the men on the spur had
1:18:53
been literally blasted off, including
1:18:55
Lieutenant Phillips, Bill Payne,
1:18:58
and John Grant. In
1:19:00
the Fox Company area, back toward my
1:19:02
left rear, I saw Fox Company men
1:19:04
pulling out and disappearing over the crest.
1:19:07
I picked up a Springfield and fired a
1:19:09
shot at them, yelling for them to hold
1:19:12
the line. The
1:19:14
Japanese swarmed up that 70-foot cliff in
1:19:16
great numbers, armed with three heavy and
1:19:18
six light machine guns, a number of
1:19:21
Tommy guns, and several neem orders. I
1:19:24
thought, dear God, Major Connolly and his
1:19:26
small command post are just over that
1:19:28
crest. But here
1:19:30
was the only grazing fire I had with
1:19:33
my machine gun. So I quickly
1:19:35
found Gaston's gun and swung it
1:19:37
around towards our own lines, as
1:19:40
there was nothing between my gun and
1:19:43
the crest but the enemy
1:19:45
Japanese soldiers. I
1:19:48
fired a full belt of ammunition into the
1:19:51
backs of those crouching enemy, praying that they
1:19:53
could not get over the crest to the
1:19:55
command post. I
1:19:57
Learned later from Captain Farrell, who's. With
1:20:00
Colonel Handguns Command post that the
1:20:02
word was that the enemy had
1:20:04
one of pages vast firing machine
1:20:07
guns and the rounds were ricocheting
1:20:09
over the line into. Major.
1:20:12
Connelly's position. She had also heard reports
1:20:14
that all my men had been killed.
1:20:17
And. In some, and in fact some had
1:20:19
been. Some. See
1:20:21
me sprawled out dead on the ground before
1:20:23
they left. the Rich. I
1:20:26
learned later to the disinformation gotten back
1:20:28
to division command post by zero five
1:20:30
hundred the enemy was all over the
1:20:33
spurs and it appeared they were going
1:20:35
to roll up the entire battalion front.
1:20:38
A second prong of the attacked aimed
1:20:40
at our fonts had not fared as
1:20:42
well. But my platoon
1:20:44
was being decimated. A
1:20:47
hail of shrapnel killed. Daniel
1:20:49
are cashman. Stansbury.
1:20:51
Had been pulled back over the
1:20:53
hill after being hit again. so
1:20:55
just to kind of break that
1:20:58
down little bits. Season.
1:21:00
Forward position and back. Over.
1:21:03
A little crest over little ridge
1:21:05
line is the command posts and
1:21:07
so the Japanese actually pushed through.
1:21:11
And they're heading towards the command
1:21:13
post. And six he. Turns
1:21:16
his gone around and has to shoot
1:21:18
back towards the command post to kill
1:21:21
those Japanese centers record she's going into
1:21:23
the command posts the command post He
1:21:25
friends and later thought that. Is
1:21:27
gonna be faster by the Japanese. This
1:21:32
is I with we would do jungle training especially
1:21:34
in Than and so in the nineties and of
1:21:36
the tree. And
1:21:39
this is pre nods pre like
1:21:41
this. For.
1:21:44
You know it's like when you're in the dark. and
1:21:46
also there's a flash of light and use. Or Univision?
1:21:48
That's what this is. This is just the scene of.
1:21:51
Total. Confusion. So.
1:21:54
Now there's enough light winners this much fire going
1:21:56
on. sometimes you can sign of see a little
1:21:59
bit more was. Running. And I think that's
1:22:01
a mode that while that stephanie the mode they're
1:22:03
getting into where it's almost like as a strobe
1:22:05
light got been a. He. Was struggling
1:22:08
a consistent timing. This would be like a random
1:22:10
strobe light but very close together. Could even the
1:22:12
muzzle flash gifts of a a pop. There's a
1:22:14
flash of light with each one. Has be over
1:22:16
season tickets even with. Ten. Feet away,
1:22:18
it's gonna light up your area. But
1:22:21
the. Confusion and chaos in the
1:22:23
situations. It is gonna be
1:22:26
total ma'am. I.
1:22:28
Continue to trigger burst until the barrel began
1:22:30
to seem In front of he was a
1:22:32
large pile of dead bodies. I ran around
1:22:35
the rich from gun the gun trying to
1:22:37
keep them pharynx but at each emplacement I
1:22:39
sound or me dead bodies. I
1:22:41
knew I must be all alone. As
1:22:45
I ran back and forth, I pumped
1:22:47
into enemy soldiers who were seemingly dashing
1:22:49
about aimlessly in the dark. Apparently they
1:22:51
weren't aware. they weren't yet aware that
1:22:53
they had almost completely. They.
1:22:55
Had almost complete possession of the North.
1:22:59
As. I scampered around the know
1:23:01
I fired someone springfield. That.
1:23:03
I happen to pick up. Then somehow I
1:23:05
stumbled over into the right flank of George
1:23:07
Company. Their I found a
1:23:10
couple of men I knew themed Kelly and
1:23:12
Topman. They
1:23:14
had a water cooled machine gun I told
1:23:16
them I needed they're gone at the same
1:23:19
time. I grabbed it. And. They took
1:23:21
off with me. I said follow
1:23:23
me and ordered several riflemen fix
1:23:25
bayonets and to form a squirt
1:23:27
skirmish line back across the Rich.
1:23:30
I told the rifleman not to
1:23:32
be afraid to use the bayonet.
1:23:35
We. Still had the Nike Know
1:23:38
five sixteen inch bayonets. With.
1:23:40
The front and sharpen throughout it's lengths
1:23:42
and a back edge of five inches
1:23:44
from the point. He
1:23:47
was by then. Not. Quite as dark
1:23:50
as it has been, soon dawn would
1:23:52
break. i knew that once the
1:23:54
japanese realized how much progress they had made
1:23:56
steal a third wave of attackers would come
1:23:58
up the slope to solidify their hold on
1:24:00
the knoll. On the way back I noticed
1:24:02
some movement of Japanese on the ridge just
1:24:04
above Major Connolly's position and
1:24:06
which I had raked with grazing fire
1:24:09
earlier. I fired Kelly's and Topman's full
1:24:11
belt of 250 rounds into
1:24:13
that area and once again the rounds were
1:24:15
ricocheting over Connolly's head but he
1:24:17
had no way of knowing that I was doing the
1:24:19
firing. He could only surmise
1:24:22
that the enemy was now using our
1:24:24
machine guns. As we advanced back across
1:24:26
the ridge some of the Japanese began
1:24:28
falling back. Several with them however began
1:24:30
crawling awkwardly across the knoll with
1:24:33
their rifles cradled in the crooks with
1:24:35
their arms and then I saw with
1:24:37
horror that they were
1:24:39
headed toward one of my guns which
1:24:41
was now out in the open and
1:24:43
unmanned. Galvanized
1:24:46
by that threat I ran for the
1:24:48
gun from the gully area several Japanese
1:24:50
guns spotted me and swiveled to rape
1:24:52
me with fire. The snipers in the
1:24:55
trees also tried to bring me down
1:24:57
and grenades and mortars burst all around
1:24:59
me as I ran to that gun.
1:25:02
One of the crawling enemy soldiers saw me coming and
1:25:04
he jumped up to race me to the prize. I
1:25:07
got there first and jumped into the
1:25:09
hole behind the gun. The enemy soldier less than 25 yards
1:25:12
away dropped to the ground and started to
1:25:14
open up on me. I
1:25:16
turned the gun on the enemy and immediately realized
1:25:18
it was not loaded. I
1:25:21
quickly scooped up a partial loaded belt lying
1:25:23
on the ground and with fumbling fingers started
1:25:25
to load it. Suddenly a very
1:25:27
strange feeling came over me. I
1:25:30
tried to desperately reach forward to pull
1:25:32
the bolt handle back to load the
1:25:34
gun but I felt
1:25:36
as though it was in a vice. Even
1:25:39
so I was completely relaxed and felt as
1:25:41
though I was sitting peacefully in a park.
1:25:45
I could feel a warm sensation between my
1:25:47
chin and Adam's apple. Then all of a
1:25:49
sudden I fell forward
1:25:51
over the gun loaded the
1:25:53
gun and swung it up at the
1:25:55
enemy gunner. The precise moment he had fired his
1:25:58
full 30 round magazine. at
1:26:00
me and stopped firing. For
1:26:03
days later I thought about that mystery
1:26:06
and somehow knew that
1:26:08
the man above also
1:26:10
knew what had happened.
1:26:12
I found three more belts of ammunition and quickly
1:26:15
fired them into the trees and all along the
1:26:17
ridge. I sprayed the terrain with remaining
1:26:20
rounds, clearing everything in sight. All the
1:26:22
Japanese fired in the area was being
1:26:24
aimed at me apparently and this was
1:26:26
the only automatic weapon firing from a
1:26:28
forward position. The barrage concentrated on the
1:26:30
ridge nose made me feel as if
1:26:33
the whole Japanese army was firing at
1:26:35
me. I
1:26:38
was getting some help from our mortars
1:26:40
controlled by battalion with the
1:26:42
George Company commander, Captain L.W.
1:26:45
Martin observing. These
1:26:47
rounds laid on the spur and prevented the
1:26:49
enemy to move up which would have probably
1:26:51
enveloped me from the rear. Other than this
1:26:54
I was still alone as
1:26:56
my George Company friends were still behind
1:26:58
me some distance. In
1:27:00
addition to being in this position I had
1:27:02
an immediate need of more ammunition and I
1:27:05
couldn't see any more lying around anywhere.
1:27:09
Just at that time aid came that
1:27:11
made me glow with pride. Three
1:27:13
of my men from
1:27:16
my platoon voluntarily crossed the field
1:27:18
of fire to resupply me. The
1:27:22
first one came up and just as he reached me
1:27:24
he fell with a bullet in the stomach. Another
1:27:27
one rushed in then and was
1:27:29
hit in the groin just as he reached me too.
1:27:32
He fell against me knocking me away
1:27:34
from the gun. Seconds later Bob John
1:27:36
Jock who had also been
1:27:38
wounded earlier came from somewhere with
1:27:40
more ammunition. Just as he jumped down
1:27:42
beside me to help load the gun
1:27:44
I saw a piece of flesh fly
1:27:46
off his neck. He had been hit
1:27:49
by an enemy bullet. I
1:27:52
told him to get back while I sprayed
1:27:54
the area. He refused to
1:27:56
leave. I said get the hell
1:27:58
back John Jock and he said again. and no, I'm
1:28:00
staying with you. I hated to do
1:28:02
it, but I punched him on the chin
1:28:05
hard enough to bowl him over, and convince
1:28:07
him, finally, that I wanted my order obeyed.
1:28:10
He somehow made his way back, as
1:28:13
I was afraid he would bleed to death." Meanwhile
1:28:17
Major Connolly, at the forward command
1:28:19
post, was rounding up a rag-tag
1:28:21
force with which to retake the
1:28:23
Fox Company spur. They
1:28:26
were bandsmen serving as stretcher-bearers, firemen, runners,
1:28:28
cooks, and even mess boys who had
1:28:31
brought some hot food up to the
1:28:33
front lines during the night and stayed
1:28:35
just in case. Those men, numbering no
1:28:37
more than 24, mounted
1:28:40
a counter-attack up over the crest that
1:28:42
I fired some 500 rounds at. They found the
1:28:48
Japanese machine guns and several of Fox
1:28:50
Company's weapons, including three light machine guns,
1:28:52
all in good working order. That counter-attack
1:28:54
found 98 dead on the spur by
1:28:59
actual count. That
1:29:02
was about 5.30 or so. Dawn was
1:29:04
already breaking. I was
1:29:06
able to observe the progress of that
1:29:09
charge from my position as I was
1:29:11
directly out to their front. I
1:29:13
also watched quite a few enemy soldiers scrambling back
1:29:15
into the jungle, but I couldn't fire in that
1:29:17
direction. As I watched
1:29:19
that beautiful charge, it gave me inspiration
1:29:21
to get up and yell to my
1:29:24
George Company fighters with their fixed
1:29:26
bayonets to stand by the charge. I
1:29:31
yelled out in Japanese to
1:29:33
stand up. Tate,
1:29:36
tate, hurry.
1:29:40
Esoge, esoge, or isogai, eso-ga.
1:29:44
Immediately a large group of Japanese soldiers,
1:29:46
about 30 and all, popped up into
1:29:48
view. So he yells
1:29:50
out in Japanese, hey stand up, hurry.
1:29:55
Immediately A large group of Japanese soldiers, about 30 and
1:29:57
all, popped up into view. One of. That
1:30:00
me to feel grasses. I triggered a long
1:30:02
burst and they just pure boss like grass
1:30:04
under a moink machine. At.
1:30:07
That point I turned around to tell my friends I was
1:30:09
going to charge of that know. And. I
1:30:11
said i want every want you to be right
1:30:13
behind me and they were. I
1:30:18
threw the two remaining belts of ammunition
1:30:20
that up my men had brought me
1:30:22
over my shoulder unclamp the heavy machine
1:30:24
guns from a tripod. I
1:30:27
cradled it my arms. I
1:30:30
really didn't notice the weight, which was a
1:30:32
total of about eighty pounds. And
1:30:35
was no more aware that the water jacket of
1:30:37
my gun was red hot. I
1:30:40
said one of the belts into the
1:30:42
gun is started forward down the slope,
1:30:44
scrambling to keep my foot spraying a
1:30:46
raging fire all about me. There.
1:30:50
Were still a number of live enemy soldiers
1:30:53
on a hillside in the tall grass pressed
1:30:55
against the soap. I must have taken them
1:30:57
by surprise as the gone cut them all
1:30:59
down. One.
1:31:01
Of them notice. One of them I noticed
1:31:04
was a sealed great officer who just expanded
1:31:06
the rounds in his revolver and was reaching
1:31:08
for a two handed swords. He was no
1:31:10
more than four five feet from me when
1:31:12
I ran into him head on. The
1:31:16
skirmishes. The skirmishes followed me over
1:31:18
the rim of the know and
1:31:20
they too. Were. All fired
1:31:22
up and we're giving the rebel yell.
1:31:25
Shrieking had kept calling like little boys,
1:31:27
imitating marines sounding like they are. There
1:31:29
were thousand rather than a mere handful.
1:31:33
He. Followed me all the way across the
1:31:35
draw with six bayonets to the end of
1:31:37
the jungle. Were. Long hours
1:31:40
before the Japanese, the two weeks extruded.
1:31:45
Their. We. Found nothing left to
1:31:47
shoot at. The
1:31:50
battle was over. the
1:31:53
jungle was once again so still that
1:31:56
it it wasn't for the evidence of
1:31:58
dead bodies the agony and of
1:32:00
the previous hours, the bursting terror of
1:32:02
the artillery and mortar rounds, and the
1:32:04
many thousands of rounds of ammunition fired,
1:32:08
it might only have been a bad dream
1:32:11
of awful death. There
1:32:17
were hundreds of enemy dead in the grass,
1:32:20
on the ridge, in the draw, and
1:32:23
in the edge of the jungle. We
1:32:25
dragged as many as we could into the jungle out of
1:32:27
the sun. We
1:32:29
buried many and even blasted some of
1:32:32
the ridge over them to prevent
1:32:34
the smell that only a dead body can
1:32:36
expel in the heat. The
1:32:42
next day, the next
1:32:46
day, the chesty
1:32:48
puller came up to see me. He
1:32:52
sat down beside me after we shook
1:32:54
hands and he told me about the big attack they
1:32:56
had down at the airport on
1:33:00
the night of the 24th. He
1:33:03
also told me that he had just seen Colonel
1:33:05
Hannigan at the division command post before
1:33:07
he came to visit with me. He
1:33:10
told me that he read a report that
1:33:13
Colonel Hannigan was preparing, recommending me for a
1:33:15
medal. He
1:33:17
said when he returned to the command post, he
1:33:19
was also going to prepare a report for one
1:33:22
of his sergeants, recommending him for a medal.
1:33:27
He went on to tell me that
1:33:29
this sergeant was also a machine gunner
1:33:32
and that our actions were similar. I
1:33:35
said, Wonderful, is this sergeant someone I
1:33:37
may know? He
1:33:39
said, I don't know, but
1:33:42
his name is Basilone. I
1:33:45
said, Johnny Basilone? And
1:33:47
he said, Yes. I
1:33:51
had made platoon sergeant just before we left the
1:33:53
states and I told chesty that I had recently
1:33:55
seen Johnny and we
1:33:58
were moving positions and I had asked him. when
1:34:00
he expected to make platoon sergeant. And
1:34:03
he said soon he had hoped. I told Chesty
1:34:05
that I hoped this would help Johnny get promoted to
1:34:07
platoon sergeant. I
1:34:09
had met Johnny originally back in New
1:34:11
River, North Carolina, just after he had
1:34:13
joined the 1st Battalion, 7th Marines. He
1:34:16
told me he was
1:34:18
better known as Manila John. And
1:34:22
then I said, you must have been in the Philippines. And
1:34:25
we had a lot to talk about as I told
1:34:28
him I had been stationed there for some time. Johnny
1:34:31
had been in the Army and I was
1:34:33
stationed in Manila, thus the name Manila
1:34:36
John. We
1:34:38
had a friendly greeting when
1:34:41
I would call him Doggy Manila
1:34:43
John. And he would
1:34:45
jokingly call me, Kaveet Mitch. Chesty
1:34:50
was admired by all
1:34:52
enlisted men. And while we were sitting
1:34:54
there on the ground, Price had been
1:34:56
shot through the face. Though
1:34:58
not very seriously, was very anxious to meet him.
1:35:00
Price had bled so profusely it was difficult to
1:35:02
determine how serious his wound had been when he
1:35:05
was hit. In
1:35:07
any event, he was patched up now
1:35:10
and was most anxious to say hello to
1:35:12
that great jungle fighter, Chesty
1:35:15
Poon. Chesty
1:35:19
shook hands with him and offered him some pipe
1:35:21
tobacco, the only thing he had at the
1:35:23
time. Naturally a
1:35:25
kind gesture and Price had refused because he didn't have
1:35:27
a pipe. However, he
1:35:29
had never forgotten that visit with Chesty, the
1:35:33
veteran of Nicaragua and other
1:35:35
jungle battles. Two
1:35:38
years later, PFC John W. Price
1:35:42
was killed in action. Fast
1:35:53
forward here. Because
1:35:55
that's the thing, it's not over. Like
1:35:58
you get through all that. And by the way, what
1:36:02
part of that do you actually live
1:36:04
through? Almost
1:36:07
none. Almost nothing that happened do you
1:36:09
get to live through. But
1:36:12
guess what? Doesn't matter. The fight's still on. Back
1:36:16
to the book. Now that the enemy's back
1:36:18
had been broken, at least temporarily, General Van Der
1:36:20
Grift believed it would be an opportune time to
1:36:23
continue the attack. So
1:36:26
instead of going west, we
1:36:28
would leave the Lunga River area to which
1:36:30
we had just returned from our battle ridge
1:36:32
to a new front. Everyone said,
1:36:34
oh boy, here we go again. You go through
1:36:36
all that, get back into perimeter,
1:36:38
fast forward and pass it, but they're out on that
1:36:40
ridge line. They win
1:36:42
that fight. Great
1:36:44
cost, massive casualties. And
1:36:48
then they pull back into perimeter, now they get back into perimeter
1:36:50
like, oh yeah, you're moving west, you're moving out. And
1:36:52
everyone said, oh boy, here we go again. And
1:36:55
the next morning we started out on a forced
1:36:57
march across the rivers and along trails
1:37:00
near the beach. Fox
1:37:02
Company, the rifle company I was attached to,
1:37:04
was given the extreme right flank, the furthest
1:37:06
away from the perimeter. My platoon was a
1:37:08
bunch of patched up Marines with some replacements.
1:37:15
Fast forward a little bit. I left the extreme
1:37:17
right flank open so that a particular gun could
1:37:19
fire into the jungle behind it, up
1:37:21
the beach or out to sea. I got behind
1:37:23
the next gun and placed a bayonet in the
1:37:25
sand against the water jacket at the point where
1:37:28
it could fire up the beach, just clearing left
1:37:30
shoulder of the gunner of the first gun. I
1:37:32
did the same thing with each of the other guns, so that in
1:37:34
fact we would be in echelon with each gun being able to fire
1:37:36
just to the left of the gun in front of it. Everybody
1:37:39
knew the plan and the limitations of traverse for
1:37:41
the gun. This is just interlocking
1:37:43
fields of fire. We
1:37:46
knew the enemy had moved east about a
1:37:48
half mile from us and in all
1:37:51
probability some might just wander down the
1:37:53
beach. As we suspected, just after daybreak
1:37:55
we spotted some enemy troops moving out
1:37:57
to the water's edge. down
1:38:00
the beach towards us in formation. We
1:38:02
could hardly believe it, because this was
1:38:05
truly a machine gunner's dream. Perfect
1:38:08
grazing fire at troops in formation.
1:38:12
As we were crouched there in anxiety waiting for
1:38:15
a large unit to start down the beach right
1:38:17
into our guns, as surely they were preparing to
1:38:19
do, as evidenced by their movements, a single
1:38:23
crack of Springfield rifle went off some
1:38:25
distance down the beach behind us. The
1:38:28
round went up the beach over our
1:38:30
heads. Some knucklehead riflemen just couldn't wait.
1:38:34
As the enemy started to scatter, all my machine
1:38:36
guns opened up and not a single enemy soldier
1:38:39
made it back to the jungle. Fast
1:38:47
forward a little bit, the attack
1:38:49
continued across the Metapona River and
1:38:51
we were gradually bottling up the enemy. In the
1:38:53
chest he had been hit that day with a
1:38:55
grenade that landed near him, causing
1:38:58
multiple fragmentation wounds in his legs, but
1:39:00
he did not leave the lines until
1:39:03
the next day. By dusk of the
1:39:05
8th, we had the enemy between us
1:39:08
and it was only a matter of cleaning them up. As
1:39:12
we closed the knot tighter, some of the enemy escaped
1:39:14
through a gap in the army line, but
1:39:17
the rest were cleaned out. On the 9th
1:39:19
and 10th, the final push was made and
1:39:21
the area was secured for all intents and
1:39:23
purposes as the enemy had either been killed
1:39:25
and those who managed to escape would find
1:39:27
it difficult in the days to come as
1:39:29
we were definitely on the offensive. On
1:39:33
the 11th, we started back toward the perimeter. Our
1:39:36
casualties during the period since we watched the
1:39:38
enemy land on the 1st was
1:39:40
21 killed and
1:39:43
61 wounded. We
1:39:47
had taken considerable enemy supplies,
1:39:49
mostly rice and ammunition. That
1:39:52
night was a nightmare. As
1:39:55
the Japanese fleet came in and blasted the
1:39:57
airports and all the ridges of the air
1:40:00
around it, including Edson's Ridge where we were
1:40:02
dug in. In my opinion, the most frightening
1:40:04
thing in combat is to be on the
1:40:07
receiving end of naval gunfire. Artillery
1:40:09
is the same when masked. Every
1:40:12
time one of those naval shells came crashing
1:40:15
into the island, trees were
1:40:17
uprooted, and the earth shook like
1:40:19
an earthquake. This was particularly
1:40:21
evident on Edson's Ridge, which was
1:40:23
in line for anything that was
1:40:25
fired over Henderson's field. Henderson
1:40:28
Field. Our positions
1:40:30
felt like we were on jello
1:40:32
as the ground literally rolled with
1:40:34
each crashing shell. Twice that night,
1:40:36
Sergeant Bill Payne and I were
1:40:38
completely lifted out of our holes
1:40:41
and flopped on the ground. It
1:40:45
was just like being lifted into
1:40:47
some dirt by a bulldozer blade,
1:40:49
very eerie feeling indeed. We
1:40:56
continued to move periodically from one position to
1:40:58
another. This
1:41:00
is fast forward. More and more army troops were
1:41:03
arriving to take our positions in the lines. The
1:41:05
patrols were penetrating deeper, seeking out the enemy. It
1:41:07
was getting a little quieter around the perimeter as
1:41:09
the days went by. However, enemy ships continued to
1:41:12
sneak in at night and lob a few shells
1:41:14
at Henderson Field and our lines. We
1:41:17
still had air attacks, but our
1:41:19
valiant Cactus Air Force was shooting
1:41:21
the enemy planes out of the
1:41:23
skies with great numbers. We had
1:41:26
Grumman Wildcats, the Dauntless Dive bombers,
1:41:28
the Avenger Torpedo bombers, and the
1:41:30
Air Cobras at Henderson Field. Cactus
1:41:32
was Guadalcanal's code name. The
1:41:35
real heroes of all the gravel crunchers,
1:41:38
the infantrymen, and the
1:41:40
cannon cockers, the artillerymen, and the mortarmen
1:41:43
were those fabulous Marine Corps pilots,
1:41:46
like Lieutenant Colonel Howard W.
1:41:49
Bauer, Major Marion Carl,
1:41:51
Captain Joe Foss, Major
1:41:54
Bob Galer, and Major John
1:41:56
L. Smith. on
1:42:00
the ground and cheer them on
1:42:05
as they shot the cream of the
1:42:07
crop of the Japanese freighter and armor
1:42:09
privileged out of the skies over Guadalcanal
1:42:11
each day. At times, we
1:42:14
had seen Merriam or Joe or John
1:42:16
dive into a pack of enemy planes
1:42:19
and almost every instance they
1:42:21
were outnumbered by ten
1:42:24
to fifteen to one, yet
1:42:26
they could be seen buzzing around like bumblebees
1:42:28
looping and diving and pressing the attack to
1:42:30
keep the enemy fighters from hitting us on
1:42:32
the ground. We had
1:42:34
seen Carl, Foss, Galer, and Smith get shot down
1:42:37
and have to bail out of their burning planes
1:42:39
as we watched the air battles. Bauer was shot
1:42:41
down over the water and was never recovered. Bauer,
1:42:44
Galer, Foss, and Smith were
1:42:46
all awarded the Congressional Medal
1:42:48
of Honor and Carl was
1:42:50
awarded the Navy Cross. Joe
1:42:52
Foss became America's ace of
1:42:54
aces after he shot down
1:42:57
his 26th enemy plane beating
1:42:59
Captain Eddie Rickenbacker's 1918 record
1:43:03
of 25 enemy planes. Fast
1:43:12
forward a little bit. Things
1:43:17
are starting to mellow out a little here. Each
1:43:19
day we cleaned our machine guns, had gun drill,
1:43:21
and helped Lieutenant Tom Myers get snapped in with
1:43:23
us. We went on short patrols around the perimeter.
1:43:25
Obviously the rainy season had set in and it
1:43:28
was raining nearly every day as Christmas had come
1:43:30
and gone and we were now standing by
1:43:32
to leave the island too. The
1:43:38
first Marines had left shortly after the
1:43:41
fifth had departed. On
1:43:45
the 5th of January 1943, our 7th Marines
1:43:47
went aboard the USS Rachel Jackson
1:43:51
and the second
1:43:53
battalion was on its way to
1:43:56
Melbourne, Australia where the rest of the division was
1:43:58
located. Zoom.
1:44:16
You might think that that's kind of the end of the
1:44:18
book and what I'm going to read
1:44:20
right now but you know
1:44:22
those guys have been through hell obviously all of those
1:44:24
guys have been through hell and so it
1:44:27
must be over but it's not over. Mitchell
1:44:32
Page ends up getting commissioned. He
1:44:35
ends up being awarded the Medal of Honor. So
1:44:37
it's him and Bazzie, him
1:44:39
and John Basilone, machine
1:44:42
gunners. So
1:44:44
he ends up being awarded the Medal of Honor while he's
1:44:46
in Australia. Being
1:44:51
in Australia training his Marines, getting
1:44:54
them ready, getting them prepared and
1:44:57
eventually the first Marine division, he
1:45:00
was with them when they joined the 6th Army for
1:45:03
the attack on Cape Luster where
1:45:06
he saw more combat. And
1:45:12
then finally in
1:45:14
July of 1944 and there's so many good details in the
1:45:16
book, there's details about
1:45:18
Gloucester, just get the book. But
1:45:22
he also, there's like, he's got malaria.
1:45:26
You ever known anyone that got malaria? Yes.
1:45:29
It might teach you how to get it. Did you watch them
1:45:31
get it? No, no, no. So they just
1:45:33
had it? Yeah, he told me. He
1:45:35
told us about it. It's horrible. One of
1:45:37
my buddies got it. He
1:45:39
got it in Africa. We were in Africa. I
1:45:42
felt bad too because he
1:45:44
was trying to do the right thing
1:45:46
and he was taking his malaria pills
1:45:48
all the time and he, when we got
1:45:51
to Africa, we were on a ship. And
1:45:55
they offered a trip to go climb Mount
1:45:57
Kilimanjaro. And
1:45:59
that was like... the mature smart thing to do,
1:46:01
right? The other alternative was
1:46:03
to go to, I believe
1:46:08
it was called the White Sands Hotel. Oh
1:46:10
yeah, the club? No, it was a whole
1:46:12
resort town. Yeah, we
1:46:15
were in Kenya. Yeah, we're in
1:46:17
Kenya. This is in
1:46:19
the 90s, right? So we're in Kenya and
1:46:21
we end up, you
1:46:23
know, I'm like, oh yeah, no, we're gonna go party
1:46:26
at the White Sands Hotel. So
1:46:28
he, so by the way, so we go out partying.
1:46:30
I, you know, we're drinking
1:46:32
and partying. I remember waking up like
1:46:34
half out, I was outside, mosquitoes
1:46:38
are just feasting on me. I'm
1:46:41
by a swamp, bro. I'm by like a, you
1:46:44
know, the White Sands Hotel had
1:46:46
like, you know,
1:46:48
there's White Sands, obviously have nice beautiful beach
1:46:50
and these are really nice hotels and
1:46:54
you had like little
1:46:56
water features, but they're kind
1:46:58
of more like swamp features. I
1:47:00
wake up, I'm by one of those things.
1:47:03
Just no shirt, parachorts,
1:47:05
flip-flops and just mosquitoes feasting
1:47:07
on me. By
1:47:10
the way, I hadn't taken any malaria pills in
1:47:12
five days or whatever. Right. Meanwhile,
1:47:15
my buddy took all his malaria pills, goes
1:47:17
and does the right thing, you know, does
1:47:19
something a mature human would do, not an
1:47:21
idiot. We come back to the ship,
1:47:24
he gets malaria and he was
1:47:26
down hard. Yeah. How long
1:47:28
does it take malaria to pass? Or like, I
1:47:30
don't remember. Well, the thing is it apparently stays
1:47:33
with you. It's kind of like a Lyme disease,
1:47:35
like that kind of thing where it stays with
1:47:37
you and it makes it easier
1:47:39
for you to get casualties and stuff
1:47:41
like that. But, you
1:47:44
know, and this guy, like one of my best friends
1:47:46
actually, so I felt really bad. So
1:47:51
Mitchell Page, he had malaria.
1:47:54
He's fighting it. And
1:47:56
by the way, you know, when my buddy got malaria, we're on
1:47:59
the ship, so he got... You know went into
1:48:01
sick bay and he's getting water and he's in
1:48:03
an air-conditioned space and dude This these guys have
1:48:05
malaria in the middle of freaking jungle while people
1:48:07
are trying to kill him. So
1:48:09
there's that whole thing in there but
1:48:12
eventually like I said, he is Sent
1:48:15
back to America when he spends
1:48:18
a little bit of time Serving
1:48:20
out the Marine Corps then he gets moved into an
1:48:22
active reserve and the Korean War comes up He Gets
1:48:26
recalled. So now he's back on active duty.
1:48:28
But what he did during the Korean War
1:48:30
We spend his time training officers and enlisted
1:48:32
guys and ended up writing he
1:48:34
retired from the Marine Corps 1959 Wrote
1:48:37
this book in 1975 Or
1:48:40
that one that's when it was published. He
1:48:42
had a GI Joe action
1:48:44
figure Which
1:48:48
was him carrying that 30 caliber water-cold
1:48:51
machine gun which like he says 80
1:48:53
pounds So, you know you see an
1:48:55
m60 who see Rambo's m60. Oh, yeah, like 25 pounds or
1:48:57
something like that Maybe I
1:48:59
think the modern ones were like 17 So
1:49:01
the one he had the one of the longest by 25 pounds But
1:49:04
a big water-cooled crew-served machine gun
1:49:06
thing is huge 80 pounds same
1:49:08
thing that Bazzie used But
1:49:11
they that's what the GI Joe doll has.
1:49:13
Yeah Yeah,
1:49:15
Mitch page not a dog and it
1:49:18
comes with your I'm sorry the action
1:49:20
figure comes a little miniature medal of
1:49:22
honor Oh, then okay so
1:49:25
he did that and Died
1:49:29
in his home November 15th
1:49:32
2003 is buried in Riverside
1:49:34
National Cemetery in
1:49:36
Riverside, California And
1:49:40
just another to me Example
1:49:46
of what we as
1:49:48
human beings can be capable of What
1:49:53
we can be capable of possibly
1:49:59
And Importantly,
1:50:03
the sacrifices that were made.
1:50:06
Just Guadalcanal alone. Just
1:50:10
Guadalcanal alone. 29
1:50:12
ships lost. Including
1:50:14
two carriers. 6 heavy
1:50:16
cruisers. Two light cruisers. 17
1:50:19
destroyers. 7100
1:50:22
killed. 7700
1:50:25
wounded. That's
1:50:28
one battle by the way. This
1:50:30
is an extreme battle. But
1:50:36
these are heroes. Mitchell
1:50:39
Page. These
1:50:42
troops go out there
1:50:44
and sacrifice for each other. That's
1:50:48
sacrifice from us. And
1:50:55
we need to make sure that we live our lives in
1:50:59
a way that honors these heroes. The
1:51:01
ones that made it home. Like
1:51:04
Mitchell Page. And
1:51:08
of course, the ones that didn't. So
1:51:21
here we go, Echo Charles. Fantastic
1:51:25
book. You get the book. More
1:51:29
just Marine Corps. Marine
1:51:33
Corps history. Crazy. Yep.
1:51:36
Yep. I mean, again, a lot
1:51:38
of these, a lot of these, yet another time
1:51:40
where, you know, I watch a lot of movies.
1:51:42
You know that. And you know,
1:51:44
you see movie character does all this, so it's
1:51:46
not realistic. You know? But hey, we enjoy
1:51:48
the show. You know, we're going to keep it moving and showing
1:51:51
it's all good. But this is like, this is
1:51:53
an actual character in real life doing real stuff.
1:51:55
And a lot of times, kind of more crazy than
1:51:57
most of the movies I'm even thinking of right now. This
1:52:00
would seem definitely far-fetched. Yeah, if you
1:52:02
watch this in a movie if you
1:52:04
watch him like racing a
1:52:07
Japanese soldier Yeah to
1:52:09
his gun that's abandoned to
1:52:11
get that thing While
1:52:14
there's borders grenades and machine gun and sniper
1:52:16
fire trying to take him out Like
1:52:20
what does that scene look like in a movie
1:52:22
you got come on? Yeah fun fun. Yeah fun.
1:52:24
Love it But yeah, that's not really you're not
1:52:26
feeling like this is you know, we're hyped for
1:52:28
it Action movie or whatever
1:52:31
all day. Yeah, but you
1:52:33
don't think it's realistic. Yeah Here
1:52:35
you go. It's realistic. There's a page said what?
1:52:41
He sure did so Semper
1:52:43
Fi out there devil dogs Okay
1:52:48
Let's do our best. Let's live our lives,
1:52:50
right? Let's be better people You
1:52:54
know you once informed us
1:52:56
sure that one of the best things we can
1:52:58
do to be
1:53:00
better people Take
1:53:02
after it. You have to physically
1:53:04
physically. Yes exercise and
1:53:06
I've narrowed it down even more by the way recently
1:53:09
into resistance training What
1:53:12
about the cardio training? What are you? We
1:53:14
love we love metcons. We love cardio We
1:53:16
love the whole deal, you know But if
1:53:18
you want to put it this way and
1:53:20
I'm saying this kind of currently this how
1:53:22
I'm currently feeling If you're gonna prioritize I
1:53:24
say the resistance training. Mm-hmm priority I
1:53:27
say all of it just like you with the martial arts. Well,
1:53:29
do everything you can Yep,
1:53:33
what's interesting is a lot of
1:53:35
people that we know are advocating
1:53:37
the same thing. Mm-hmm Everybody from
1:53:39
Gabriel dr. Gabriel Ryan, right? Andrew
1:53:43
Huberman, okay Peter. It's yeah, they're all talking
1:53:45
about lifting. They don't call lifting. What do
1:53:48
they call it? Resistance
1:53:50
right? Right. What do we
1:53:52
call it? Lifting and
1:53:55
just the importance of muscle mass.
1:53:57
Yeah being strong Which
1:54:00
is weird because remember the old days, people
1:54:03
would talk about, look if you wanted to, if
1:54:05
you were pure longevity, it would be like, do
1:54:07
as little as possible, be as small as possible,
1:54:09
be as, kind of have at
1:54:11
least, don't eat a lot. Yeah, stay
1:54:14
out of the sun, stay out of the sun. Like there's all these things
1:54:16
that you could do for
1:54:19
longevity and it certainly seems
1:54:21
like the tide is shifting and maybe it's not
1:54:23
just what Peter
1:54:26
Tia calls, not just length
1:54:28
but hell span. Not just
1:54:30
lifespan but hell span. I wanna be healthy. So
1:54:34
in order to do that, guess what we're doing? Are
1:54:36
we doing resistance training? We are but
1:54:38
we call it lifting. Lifting, yeah we're
1:54:40
lifting. It's true. Bro, whatever, I
1:54:42
used to make jokes all the time. You had to
1:54:45
lift bro. Remember that? Yeah, I
1:54:47
used to tell you actually, it wasn't a joke, I was
1:54:49
serious. But it sounded like a joke because it's kind of
1:54:51
how ridiculous it sounds. But when I
1:54:53
get reminded about, hey I'm so glad that I like
1:54:56
lift weights, is like one of the main ones is
1:54:58
like you know the water coolers, those big jugs, the
1:55:00
five gallon, you gotta change out the water cooler. Every
1:55:02
time I change one of those out, you gotta lift
1:55:05
it in this awkward way or whatever. And I'm like,
1:55:07
this could be really hard for a lot of people.
1:55:09
Yeah, I bet it is. But it's not that hard
1:55:11
for me. Cause I lift. See what
1:55:13
I'm saying? Cause you do resistance training. Hell yeah, resistance
1:55:15
training all day. What I'm saying is look, that's one
1:55:17
of the many, I would say millions, millions
1:55:20
of scenarios where being
1:55:22
trained in resistance training and other
1:55:24
stuff is gonna yield
1:55:26
the benefits. See
1:55:28
what I'm saying? To me it goes for, and
1:55:30
that's not to mention the psychological,
1:55:34
emotional, hormonal, cellular benefits you're
1:55:36
gonna get from it as
1:55:38
well. Okay, I could
1:55:40
go into a whole thing. Not gonna, you get
1:55:42
it? Discipline. Discipline all day. Here's
1:55:44
the thing too, and I think a lot of people
1:55:46
were into lifting, feel the same way. Like lifting weights,
1:55:50
I never really felt that it took that
1:55:52
much discipline. Only cause, you know, okay. Cause
1:55:55
you like it. Yes, and here's what it is. Especially
1:55:57
as a male, I guess. I can only speak for you.
1:56:01
But when I first got into
1:56:03
lifting weights, it was like push-ups first and then
1:56:05
lifting weights. And you know how it gives
1:56:08
you this pump? The pump. Yeah, yeah.
1:56:10
We are from there. So
1:56:12
when you're a kid, you think that your muscle is
1:56:15
actually growing from the lifting? And
1:56:17
I'm like, bro, this is freaking awesome. I'm going to do this.
1:56:19
I'm going to be Arnold in three weeks. Tomorrow.
1:56:22
Exactly, right? So it hooks you like that and
1:56:24
it hooks you. Then you realize, wait a second,
1:56:26
this is just a temporary thing, but yeah, I
1:56:28
could just keep this thing going. So, Christian, you
1:56:30
remember that when
1:56:34
you start lifting, when someone starts lifting and
1:56:36
they get stronger, like fast. Do you actually
1:56:38
remember that happening to you? Yes, sir, I
1:56:40
do. It's called Newbie Games. Yeah, Newbie Games.
1:56:42
I didn't know he had a name for it. There is a
1:56:44
newbie game. And
1:56:47
yeah, it was, but I started like lifting
1:56:49
on an actual like lifting program. Not the
1:56:51
kind of like, oh, there's a dumbbell. Let's
1:56:53
do some curls. Like actual program
1:56:57
was with my family friend, my
1:56:59
friend, Eric Masters, who became a
1:57:01
pilot, by the way, in the
1:57:03
Air Force, all day, with
1:57:05
his dad. And he was a football coach and he
1:57:07
was a sports coach. And it
1:57:09
was like, yeah, we were like, what, 15 years old? Just
1:57:13
test off, ready to roll in the game.
1:57:15
Oh, yeah. And I had been
1:57:17
doing pushups for a few years, secretly in the bathroom,
1:57:19
with no one looking. Could you
1:57:21
tell that you were more jacked than your brother? I
1:57:23
wasn't more jacked. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My
1:57:25
chest was more developed. Yes. That's the
1:57:28
only exercise you were doing in secret.
1:57:30
Yeah. Well, some calf
1:57:32
raises. Go on, let's roll. That's real.
1:57:34
That's real. That's real. You
1:57:36
know that, right? Oh, for real? Yeah. Jake,
1:57:39
you gotta watch out. You'll be on those calf raises.
1:57:41
Well, freaking, that makes sense. You ever seen those freaking
1:57:43
legs? They're huge. Yeah. So that makes
1:57:46
sense to me completely. And freaking, calf raises. Hell, yeah, all day.
1:57:48
Well, now I understand like it does. That part doesn't matter as
1:57:50
much as like ankle mobility and stuff. Like
1:57:52
so, you know, I do kettlebells and stuff and what I
1:57:54
did and it's more than just calf raises. It's
1:57:56
like you got to stretch them and then you do that. I do that every maybe
1:57:58
once a week or something like that. Right, it helps.
1:58:00
Yeah, yeah. I came home from
1:58:03
deployment and I
1:58:05
rolled, so, you know, JP, this is when I was
1:58:07
on deployment with JP. And
1:58:09
I think I'm probably 10 years older than
1:58:11
JP, something
1:58:13
like that. And then his dad
1:58:15
is 10 years older than me. And
1:58:19
you roll with JP before, right? Yeah, yeah, plenty
1:58:22
of time. You know, JP's strong, right? Real strong.
1:58:25
I rolled with his dad. His dad didn't
1:58:27
really know Jiu-Jitsu, but he knew some, you
1:58:29
know, kind of. But as soon
1:58:32
as I tied up with him, I was like, oh, this
1:58:34
is like, you can see where JP,
1:58:36
and JP was, he didn't have his,
1:58:39
quite frankly, JP didn't have his full man strength yet. He was
1:58:41
21 or something. You know? He
1:58:44
was strong, but he's way stronger now. But
1:58:46
his dad, I was like, oh, I
1:58:49
could see where JP was gonna go
1:58:51
strength-wise, just by rolling with his dad. Yeah,
1:58:53
you felt the DNA. Oh, the DNA, the
1:58:56
fast twitch DNA. Like JP
1:58:58
sprinting. JP
1:59:00
sprinting back in the day. He
1:59:02
just had fast, like holding his
1:59:05
Mark 46 machine gun, just sprinting.
1:59:07
Yeah. Fast twitch. And
1:59:11
his dad, his dad just, same
1:59:13
thing. Just pure fast twitch. And his dad,
1:59:15
you know, working construction. He's just a strong
1:59:18
dude, but you can sense those genes. So
1:59:20
my question is, you're doing push-ups.
1:59:22
Yeah. And
1:59:25
calf raises. Hell yeah. Were
1:59:27
your calves and your chest was bigger than JP?
1:59:29
I don't know if my calf was or not.
1:59:31
I don't know how effective the calf raise scenario
1:59:33
was, but yeah, chest was more, more
1:59:35
developed. And then when we started lifting, I could
1:59:37
bench more like up the gate for sure. Actually,
1:59:40
let's fix it. I always get it. I always
1:59:42
get it. Well, after you were sneaking into those
1:59:44
push-ups. Yeah, you gotta get the foundation. Did you
1:59:47
guys share a room? Yeah. So
1:59:49
you had to sneak him in the bathroom? Yeah. Yeah,
1:59:53
but there's more to it because we
1:59:55
would tease each other too. It's like, we were trying to
1:59:57
get all buff, you know? So there was like this unknown.
1:59:59
It was like almost like a I feel like for lack
2:00:01
of a better term, embarrassing to be working out until that's
2:00:04
what the football team was doing. That's what the team was
2:00:06
doing. That's what we were all doing. But
2:00:08
on our own, we weren't mature enough,
2:00:11
I guess, to start just self-developing. Okay,
2:00:14
so you start now officially lifting and
2:00:17
you get to watch the
2:00:19
situation go down. Yeah. You get to
2:00:21
watch the newbie gains. Oh yeah, yeah. You
2:00:24
get strong, because a lot of it has to
2:00:26
do with, well, obviously adapting, that's what muscle and
2:00:28
strength and stuff is. There's
2:00:30
that big part of it, because your body's
2:00:32
like ready. It's ready to take some action,
2:00:34
do some stuff, taking nutrients, your young, all
2:00:37
that stuff. And then, so the adaption happens
2:00:39
way quicker. It doesn't get used to it
2:00:41
overall, right? So that's in a nutshell.
2:00:44
But then on top of it too, you have
2:00:46
balance as well. So holding weights up, you ever
2:00:48
seen someone who's never lifted weights before, especially
2:00:50
with dumbbells or something? Oh yeah. Or
2:00:53
do dips, ring dips on rings instead
2:00:58
of on a dip bar. They're all, sometimes people,
2:01:00
sometimes someone that could do 25 dips, which
2:01:05
is a good amount of dips on a dip bar,
2:01:08
they can do like five and they're all shaking.
2:01:11
Oh yeah. So that's
2:01:13
a big part of the newbie gains
2:01:15
is the balance is being developed. And
2:01:17
once you got your balance down, then your
2:01:19
strength can start kicking in, even just
2:01:21
from the base side, you know? So
2:01:23
even that seems like you're getting way stronger,
2:01:26
but more than actual muscle like contractile
2:01:28
strength or whatever it's balance. So
2:01:30
anyway, these are all contributing factors to
2:01:32
the newbie gains. So we're lifting.
2:01:34
We're lifting, big time. Newbie gains or regular
2:01:37
gains or whatever. What you
2:01:39
gotta, the other end of the spectrum of
2:01:41
newbie gains is... Plateau.
2:01:45
Plateau slash decay. Cause
2:01:48
let's say you're not real excited anymore cause you're not
2:01:50
getting newbie gains. So you're like, well, kind of, don't
2:01:53
want to do this anymore. And
2:01:55
Then you get loss. I don't know who is, I don't know what
2:01:57
loss it is, but you get a loss. You're like, oh, why? Well
2:02:00
I'm weak the Up: don't let that
2:02:02
happen. That's really going to watch out
2:02:04
for their at the Arnold's In I
2:02:07
was interviewing Arnold. And.
2:02:09
I asked him about plateaus is. And.
2:02:13
He was like what we'd shocker system. Remember that? Yes,
2:02:15
I did. Have you ever read a book called. We.
2:02:18
Have the where your kid a half and
2:02:20
in that book. Young. Mark.
2:02:23
Eastern. Do more bullets and he plateaus at
2:02:25
like. says. It. And.
2:02:27
Eighty Seven Seven Seven Is
2:02:30
there actually me? What? We
2:02:32
know it. Uncle Jake Mason do. Yeah,
2:02:35
you're going to do a hundred pull ups
2:02:37
today. Kauai takes just like. Shocks.
2:02:39
Assistance? yeah next time he
2:02:41
rolls out does us. So.
2:02:44
You wanna get to has plateaued man. Total
2:02:46
shock. elusive. some of the muscle law and
2:02:48
fusion get that's what that is. Nobody you
2:02:50
down with the muscle confusion? Yes, fully. Oh
2:02:52
no. Me know there's such a i think
2:02:54
sometimes and obviously there's a lot to this.
2:02:56
but sometimes people take it any too far.
2:02:59
So they're doing something different every week or
2:03:01
something like that. which you know that's a
2:03:03
thing. Like you can do that through a
2:03:05
in it's not. It's not necessary if that's
2:03:07
the only issue that you're trying to address.
2:03:09
Yeah, you can do over yet. I'm in
2:03:11
defense of the arm and a long you
2:03:13
been training. the into a like four weeks
2:03:15
same stuff, eight weeks main thing and then change
2:03:18
of the expert in a let them sort of
2:03:20
to change up the exercise to get him going
2:03:22
to release the raptors the rest in between the
2:03:24
volume like this little just little things you can
2:03:27
change a body that whoa whoa okay. And
2:03:30
access on a lot of the times. Love him.
2:03:32
You just implement some good rest in there and
2:03:34
then just one small. Change. And
2:03:36
it's like your body can adapt to it
2:03:39
because it's kind of close enough to your
2:03:41
normal thing that you basic. All this isn't
2:03:43
like some foreign saying. We've got a spent
2:03:45
a lot of resources and time to adapt
2:03:47
to. I can adapt and that's pretty quick.
2:03:49
You know that little Jeff that I found.
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could smell as we need some
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west i'm going to recommend you
2:03:56
also do something that determine a
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box to movie Yes, some
2:04:00
type of Metcon some sprints some
2:04:03
kettlebell swings some burpees That's
2:04:06
what we're doing. Yeah, do you get to
2:04:08
yep all day? That's
2:04:10
what we're doing. You're gonna need fuel as well. I Recommend
2:04:14
you turn you some clean fuel. I
2:04:16
recommend you try and use some Go
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to jock a fuel calm but jock a fuel
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calm you guys know what we're making. We're making
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energy drinks. We're making protein We got
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hydrate. We got greens we
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got The joint supplement
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joint warfare super crew time
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war by the way take time war
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take take these things Take
2:04:36
them You'll be very
2:04:38
happy that you did and your taste
2:04:41
buds will be happy that you did.
2:04:43
Yeah, they'll be very happy Yeah, so
2:04:46
that's what we're doing. Go to jock a fuel calm go to
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Wawa and get moke moke is in
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Wawa Go to
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vitamin shop you can get all of it GNC military
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commissaries a fees Hanover dash doors in Maryland
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wake front shop right he be Meyer Harris
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teeter lifetime fitness shields
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I Guess they're putting
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a lifetime fitness in Brooklyn. I heard all right.
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Yeah, Brooklyn, New York for me dad's from by
2:05:11
the way There we go. Maybe he'll
2:05:13
go check it out leave Island for a little bit
2:05:15
go back home. No, no you stay no They're
2:05:19
gonna have mulk in there Shields
2:05:21
and look you've got a gym you go to a gym
2:05:23
you go to a gym Maybe it's a
2:05:25
gym gym. Maybe it's a powerlifting gym. Maybe it's a CrossFit
2:05:27
gym If they're not selling jock
2:05:29
off you'll you want them to tell them to email JF sales
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at jock off you will Get
2:05:34
on the clean fuel the good stuff the tasty
2:05:36
stuff. That's what we're doing check it out
2:05:39
also origin us a calm Check
2:05:42
that out for your hunting gear for
2:05:45
your jeans your jiu-jitsu gear your
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rash guards T-shirts
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training it just everything that you need 100% American-made
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Keep keep the economy
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strong bring the
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manufacturer manufacturing back to America.
2:06:02
By the way, yeah, we won the wars.
2:06:04
We won World War Two. By
2:06:09
the fighting men that were out there getting after it.
2:06:11
But guess who else all the people
2:06:13
back here in America manufacturing all this
2:06:16
stuff. Rosie the Riveter back here. So
2:06:20
let's make that happen. originusa.com. Check that
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out. It's true. Also,
2:06:24
Jaco store called Jaco store on this
2:06:26
path. Sometimes we want to represent same
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thing, whether it be a shirt,
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a hat, a hoodie, something like this. Go
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Jaco store dot com. That's where you can get it.
2:06:36
Disciplincles freedom. Good. We all seen the
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video. We all seen it. But
2:06:40
yeah, good. Some other stuff on there. Also
2:06:42
with on Jaco store dot com.
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There's a thing called the shirt locker subscription
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scenario. New design every month. People seem to
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like that one. Do
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you see something? Yeah, like
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something called the shirt locker. Okay,
2:06:55
actually, I'm not gonna say
2:06:57
the next design. You're gonna have to wait and
2:06:59
see but yeah, it's all on Jaco store.com. If
2:07:01
you like something, you
2:07:05
need steak. Once
2:07:07
you're lifting, working out doing jujitsu,
2:07:09
you're gonna need to fuel the system. Also with
2:07:11
some steak. Go
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to primal beef.com. Go to Colorado craft
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beef.com. The best steak you can get
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tasty. Perfect. Awesome
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Out there in the Shenandoah Valley of
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those out. Get yourself some subscribe to
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the podcast. Check out jockel underground.com. Check
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out our YouTube channel. Check out psychological
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Meyer hanging stuff on your wall to
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keep you in the game. Also
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books clearly get this
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book a marine named Mitch. Also,
2:07:55
I've written a bunch of books. You
2:07:57
can check those out if you want. leadership
2:08:00
strategy and tactics field manual
2:08:03
expanded the dish it's out you
2:08:06
know I've also written a bunch of kids
2:08:08
books some people like you fronting kids box
2:08:10
right yes I have I
2:08:12
think I've written six of them yeah
2:08:15
I think I've written six of them way the warrior kid series
2:08:17
Mikey and the dragons about faced by
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Hackworth extreme ownership dichotomy that you guys know the deal
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check those out also echelon front
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we have a leadership consultancy we
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solve problems through leadership go to
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echelonfront.com we got
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an event coming up in Nashville I
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think it's sold out but we also
2:08:35
have the muster coming up in
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Dallas October 16th
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through the 18th we have FTX we have
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battlefield we have the council next council of
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June 26th to 29th at register now women's
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assembly run by
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Jamie our chief operating officer September 11th
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through the 13th in San Antonio Texas
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we also have an online training platform
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to learn about leadership and
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learn about life and leadership go to extreme
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ownership.com check that out also if you want
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to help service
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members active
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and retired you want to help their families you
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want to help gold star families check out mark
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Lee's mom mama Lee it's
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got an incredible charity organization if
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you want to donate or if you want to
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get involved go to America's mighty warriors org
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help mama Lee help
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our people also
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heroes and horses org Micah
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think up in Montana and Jimmy May's got
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an organization beyond the brotherhood org check
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them all out and if you want to connect with us I'm
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at chocolate on com I'm
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also on social media anti-social media could you
2:09:41
sit there and start looking at that thing
2:09:43
and you going through
2:09:45
it and getting mad at people and sending
2:09:47
tweets commenting
2:09:51
looking at someone wondered why they got that
2:09:53
cool house and you don't they
2:09:55
got a g-wagon where's mine don't
2:09:58
don't don't fall into that trap If
2:10:01
you want to go on there, hang out, you want to go on there and
2:10:03
be positive, cool. Don't let it suck you
2:10:05
in. Don't let that algorithm get hold
2:10:07
of your brain. It's designed to do
2:10:09
that. It's designed to
2:10:12
do that. They're making money off
2:10:14
of your brain. Making money off
2:10:16
of your eyeballs. Don't let them.
2:10:21
Be careful. We're on there. But
2:10:23
we're not on there freaking all the time. We're not trying
2:10:25
to drag you into it. Add Jocka Willink, add Echo Charles,
2:10:27
just watch out for the algorithm. Of
2:10:30
course, thanks to all
2:10:32
the military personnel out there in the Army,
2:10:34
Navy, Air Force, and Marines out
2:10:38
there on the front lines around the world working together,
2:10:40
as you saw in this book,
2:10:42
support from the... There wasn't an Air
2:10:45
Force at the time, but support
2:10:47
from Marine Corps pilots overhead, Navy
2:10:49
pilots overhead, Army
2:10:51
and Marine Corps working together on the ground,
2:10:54
Navy giving support. Appreciate
2:10:58
all of you. Thank you for fighting
2:11:00
for our way of life. Also, thanks
2:11:02
to our police, law enforcement, firefighters, paramedics,
2:11:04
EMTs, dispatchers, correctional officers, border patrol, secret
2:11:06
service, as well as all other first
2:11:08
responders. Thank you for being on
2:11:11
the front lines here at home and
2:11:13
keeping us safe. And
2:11:18
I want to close by reading a part of Mitch
2:11:21
Page's Medal of Honor
2:11:23
Citation. Quote,
2:11:28
alone against
2:11:31
the deadly hail of Japanese
2:11:33
shells, he manned his gun
2:11:35
and when it was destroyed,
2:11:37
took over another, moving from
2:11:39
gun to gun, never ceasing
2:11:41
his withering fire against the
2:11:43
advancing hordes until
2:11:45
reinforcements finally arrived. Then
2:11:50
forming a new line, he
2:11:53
dauntlessly and aggressively led a
2:11:55
bayonet charge, driving the enemy
2:11:57
back and preventing a... breakthrough
2:12:00
in our lines." End
2:12:07
quote. That's bravery. That's
2:12:10
courage. That is how victory
2:12:12
is achieved. Then
2:12:16
you know we all have our own battles. We're
2:12:21
all fighting. We'll just
2:12:23
keep that in mind. Get up. Move.
2:12:26
Never cease. Aggressively attack
2:12:29
until you win.
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