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["Tin Can't Stop Me Now!"

0:02

plays in the background.] At

0:05

the midnight and the rock and

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roll He's in a fight for

0:10

wrestling Solar using a racket and

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some mind control He's Jim Cornet!

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The keys to the future held

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by the past And with tag

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team partner Brian Last He sends

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this message out by podcast He's

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Jim Cornet! Well

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he's never fake a phony He

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never backs down from a fight He

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never wins the pony Because

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his mama raised him right It's

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time To

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prepare One

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more Get

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the experience Get the

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experience Check it out!

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Get the experience of Jim

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Cornet! Oh

1:26

oh Jim, a pleasure to be here once again. Is

1:28

that what MFT stands for? They never

1:30

really spelled it out. I don't know. That's

1:33

what I'm going to ask you here at the top of the program In

1:37

front of all the Universal listeners. You're a A

1:40

hep young cat You're

1:42

a Swaven deboner man about

1:45

town You're an international yacht broker from Toulon,

1:48

France You know what all the Young

1:52

The swinging kids are Tying

1:56

their zoot suits Or some You're

1:59

a in these days, what

2:01

the fuck is an MFT? I

2:04

don't know. I'm out of touch

2:06

when it comes to this. You mean

2:08

to tell me they just made up initials?

2:10

I'm sure they didn't. It

2:13

took me a while. I figured, I

2:15

thought BFF for the longest time was

2:18

Boyfucking Friend. I didn't, I don't know.

2:22

I don't know what the f- and now- It

2:26

doesn't look like anything

2:29

you'd come up with that just visually-

2:31

According to what? I googled, what

2:33

is an MFT? It is a marriage and

2:35

family therapist. I

2:38

don't see how that applies here to

2:40

you in this context. But it's family.

2:43

It is family. It is family. Maybe he's

2:45

a family therapist. This is just his unique

2:47

way of bringing family back together. I

2:51

thought this was one of those fucking

2:54

hip initials for things that all

2:56

the kids were tweeting about and

2:58

doing the Facebook thing and the

3:00

MySpace and getting on

3:02

the TikTok thing about

3:05

it. And it was on the

3:07

tip of everybody's tongue and they were talking about it

3:09

at all the rap music

3:11

awards and everything. Is

3:14

it a family? What is it?

3:16

M family therapist? What's the M?

3:19

It is a marriage and family therapist.

3:21

Another thing here says an MFT is

3:23

a mental health professional trained in psychotherapy

3:25

and family systems. Is

3:29

this a little deep for the bloodline

3:31

saga right now? Yeah,

3:33

it's not coming up. What is an MFT

3:35

slang? Let's do that. Well,

3:37

do it right away. With

3:40

a smile on your face. Stands for

3:42

my first tour. Master

3:46

of foreign trade. Tamatanga.

3:53

You know, he got in with the big wigs over

3:55

in Japan and now he's a master of foreign trade.

3:58

Multiple file transfer. I know

4:03

one of these applies. How could this not be something

4:05

that pops up? Have we even

4:07

identified what we're talking about for the

4:09

people that don't actually watch these crummy

4:11

wrestling programs for a regular living? Mature

4:14

fine tailings. No,

4:17

it's mobile fire team. Wait

4:19

a minute. How solo. Sakoa

4:21

is, has called as branded

4:23

Toma Tonga, his

4:26

MFT on smack down. And

4:29

what, how in Paul

4:31

Heyman seemed to instantly know and was

4:33

horrified by the whole thing, like

4:36

he was fucking. What's

4:39

call it? Who was the cleaner in a

4:41

pulp fiction that came in and Harvey

4:44

Keitel, Harvey Keitel. Yeah. It looked like he

4:46

saw Harvey Keitel come in to clean up

4:48

the fucking body. We heard it was a

4:50

therapist again, marriage and family therapist. Oh God,

4:52

the therapist is here. This guy's going to

4:54

deconstruct me in two seconds. No,

4:57

I, let me tell you, if Sigmund

4:59

Freund was still alive, why

5:03

he could retire off Heyman, it would

5:05

take him years to get inside that

5:07

fucking, once you penetrated the

5:09

layers of suet around the brain.

5:12

Come on. What is wrong? Anyway,

5:15

we're going to talk about, we're going

5:17

to talk about the smack down and. What could it stand

5:19

for though? What could it, like, it has to be something

5:21

like my tough friend. Well, that

5:24

wouldn't be, and that would be my,

5:26

my, my friend, toughy. My friend is

5:28

tough. I

5:31

sound like mine, major fucking troublemaker. I couldn't

5:33

say fucking at the top of the program

5:36

where they put one of those annoying

5:39

bleeps in on YouTube, but a

5:41

major fucking troublemaker. I think that's,

5:43

that's, it's better

5:45

than anybody else has come up with on

5:47

Google. Talking to your friend, Al

5:50

over there. Uh, Jim, I have

5:52

an update, uh, as we get going with this show, uh,

5:54

no time better than the present to give an update in

5:56

real time. We just put

5:58

up a video from a few episodes ago. of

6:01

you talking about Johnny Devine divining himself? Yes.

6:04

Pretty funny story. Here's

6:06

a post on Twitter, a comment, Jim,

6:09

it's Johnny Devine! That

6:13

front desk girl falsely accused me of

6:15

sexual harassment. It ended

6:17

up almost getting me fired. It's

6:19

nothing to the biz, but it

6:22

was something to me that the company threw

6:24

me under the bus. But you

6:26

are correct. I stooged myself for a small

6:28

portion of the occupation. Well,

6:30

there he is. Hello, Johnny

6:32

Devine. Hello, Johnny. Oh, hello,

6:34

Johnny. It's so

6:37

nice to have you back where

6:39

you belong. Wherever that

6:42

may be. I would have done it like Louis Armstrong,

6:44

but I'd rather do it like Ethel Merman. Well,

6:48

you certainly sounded more like Ethel Merman. I

6:50

agree with that. But

6:54

it's good to hear from Johnny that I can't

6:56

say he didn't say whether or not he's doing

6:58

well. I hope he is, but at

7:00

least he's still around. He's breathing. So

7:02

he's got that good. But he

7:05

did stooge himself right off that day. But

7:10

it's terrible. You know, these front

7:12

desk clerks that these Holiday Inn

7:14

expresses, for

7:17

heaven's sake, they just willy-nilly bandy

7:19

these accusations around. Yeah,

7:21

I asked for a key and she accused me of sexual

7:23

harassment. It was her key. But

7:28

anyway, I'll tell you what. I

7:30

have had a wonderful weekend so far, till

7:32

I started talking to you. I'm sure things

7:35

will go downhill from here. But

7:38

yesterday, as we sit here speaking to each

7:40

other, I don't know when

7:43

the audience might hear this. But

7:47

we're a day away from thunder

7:49

over Louisville. Today was Thunder Day.

7:53

The official start of the Kentucky

7:56

Derby Festival, the

7:58

next two weeks of May, here balloon

8:00

races and the steamboat races

8:02

and the festivals

8:04

and celebrations and everything. But

8:07

the Thunderway was broadcast, I've

8:10

told you a hundred times, I love local

8:13

television, right? And

8:15

this is great local TV and I

8:18

don't meet it in a campy bad

8:20

great way but they go

8:22

all out for this because the Thunder celebration,

8:24

they closed the Sega Street Bridge for like

8:26

two days and they closed the other bridge

8:28

for 12 hours

8:30

or whatever. It's an interstate, they didn't

8:32

fuck it, go around. And

8:34

they set up the world's largest, or

8:38

not the world's, but the North

8:40

America's largest annual fireworks

8:42

display. And for

8:44

30 minutes from 9.30 to 10

8:47

o'clock Eastern time, they blow up

8:49

the fucking Ohio River it looks like

8:52

daylight out there. And

8:54

they broadcasted on television,

8:56

WDRB, my weather station

8:58

here. They use

9:00

25 cameras positioned in

9:02

two different states, both sides of

9:04

the Ohio. They had three different

9:08

set locations around the area and seeing the people

9:10

at the Great Lawn and the Belvedere and blah

9:12

blah blah. And what a

9:14

fuck of production. And they

9:17

do documentary pieces on the manufacture

9:20

of all the fireworks and how their truck

9:22

down here and they show you, show them

9:24

setting them up. And Wayne

9:26

Headinger is the guy

9:29

that is the fireworks

9:33

major domo, I can't remember what his

9:35

title is, but he's in charge of

9:37

the whole goddamn thing every year, the

9:39

producer of Thunder. And goddamn,

9:41

he's all over everywhere, all over the

9:43

new. And then they do the countdown,

9:46

they've got the command center high atop

9:48

the Galt House overlooking the river and

9:51

they've got the fucking colored

9:54

buttons and lights and everything. Okay, so

9:56

and so department calls in and the

9:58

light turns green. go!" And they

10:01

do about eight or nine of those on the countdown.

10:04

And then every year

10:06

some hillbilly

10:08

or just mental

10:11

deficient wins the contest

10:13

to be the one to turn the

10:15

goddamn key and they're scared to

10:17

death to be on television. This guy looked like

10:19

he had just come from

10:21

a North Dakota militia fucking

10:24

reunion, long gray beard and

10:27

he was scared to death to be on television and

10:29

I don't know if he ever... I think

10:32

they grabbed his hand and made him turn it.

10:35

But again whoever wins the contest gets to

10:38

turn the official firing key and then for

10:40

the next 30 minutes they blow the river

10:42

up. But it's amazing

10:44

spectacle to watch on live local

10:46

television. Don't try to go

10:49

down there especially since we just had

10:51

all these goddamn rains, they just reclaimed

10:53

six feet of riverfront when

10:55

the water receded and had to

10:58

send people down there to scrape off all the

11:00

mud and the goddamn tree

11:02

stumps and limbs and shit that had washed up

11:04

on shore. And

11:06

then people spread their blankets out to

11:08

watch the fireworks or stay

11:11

home and watch it on TV. It does a

11:13

wonderful rating. The only TV

11:18

program in Louisville this

11:21

entire calendar year that will do a

11:23

bigger rating than the Thunder fireworks is

11:25

a Kentucky Derby. I

11:28

learned that when we had to have

11:30

our Saturday night ratings obliterated twice a

11:32

year by Thunder over Louisville and the

11:35

Kentucky Derby. But

11:37

anyway aren't you

11:39

jealous you missed that Brian? No

11:42

not really. Was Randy Atcher there? No no!

11:44

He's been dead for 20 years

11:46

now. Thank you

11:50

for reminding me one of my childhood heroes.

11:52

I love local TV. I just don't

11:56

know when any of my favorites die by a

11:58

decade. He

12:00

had moved to Florida. And

12:03

in my defense, I was in one of

12:05

these wrestling promotion fucking comas of

12:07

mine and I wasn't reading the

12:09

papers. But anyway, I had

12:12

a wonderful Thunder day. Not only that, I

12:14

didn't watch the air show before. They got

12:16

the fighter pilots and the stunt planes and

12:18

blah, blah, blah. But it

12:20

was a beautiful day. 70

12:23

degrees, sunny, nice breeze. The

12:25

Monroe's showed up at nine o'clock in

12:27

the morning with 7,000 pounds of Creek

12:29

stone in

12:31

three fucking

12:35

trips. They ferried it to the backyard

12:37

where underneath the back corner of my

12:41

castle grounds, there's

12:43

a wonderful oak tree. I remember when

12:45

I was a kid, it was a

12:47

little sapling. It wasn't

12:49

10 feet tall. And

12:52

now I'm not a kid anymore. And this

12:54

fucking thing is 60 feet tall. And, but

12:57

it's still young for a maple tree. It's going to

12:59

get about twice as big around at the trunk as

13:01

it is now, but it's

13:03

just beautiful and they're making

13:05

me a nice little Creek stone mulch ring

13:08

and sitting bench with a patio next to it, a

13:10

little fire pit. So I can go back there and

13:13

roast weenies if I want to. And

13:16

then I got out and sprayed some weed

13:19

killer and got on

13:21

my hands and knees, Brian communed with

13:23

nature, weeded the dogwood, the

13:25

mulch bed under the dogwood tree and the

13:28

front flower bed. And

13:30

then I'll have, you know, in celebration

13:32

of spring having sprung and it being

13:35

thunder night, not only

13:38

did we have dinner of barbecued

13:40

chicken and barbecued shrimp skewers and

13:42

my world famous roast potatoes.

13:44

Stacey handled the barbecuing. I handled

13:46

the roasting and

13:48

baked beans, watched fireworks, but Stacey

13:51

made homemade ice

13:53

cream, French

13:56

vanilla, which was

13:59

dangerous. good to the point where I

14:01

would hurt myself probably

14:03

if I was exposed to too much of

14:05

it on a regular basis. What'd

14:10

you do yesterday? Yesterday

14:13

I hung out with the kids,

14:15

did some work in the office and cleaned up a

14:17

little bit. Had a good day. No

14:20

homemade ice cream. No,

14:22

no homemade ice cream. No North America's

14:24

largest annual fireworks display. That seems disturbing.

14:26

No, it was a nice relaxing night

14:28

and Wolfman was on Sangui so I

14:31

got to watch one of

14:33

the early classics, Lon Chaney Jr. It sounded

14:36

better now, keep going. That

14:38

was, you know, that ended at 1030. I don't know

14:40

where you want it. And then Batman started and it

14:43

was John Astin as the Riddler, not

14:47

the Riddler you don't know about. He did not

14:49

Frank Gorshin. That's right. That's terrible. You

14:51

know, you would have thought that once that

14:54

these people signed up for

14:56

that role first that no matter what they

14:58

were doing in their lives they would make

15:00

themselves available to come back to Batman. It

15:02

was only two seasons and for God's sake

15:04

that's how everybody remembers all of these people

15:06

except for John Astin who was

15:09

Gomez Adams and shouldn't have been anywhere

15:11

near Batman because that's world's colliding. Son

15:15

of a bitch. Anyway,

15:18

would you like to move on? We

15:21

can only move on. It can only

15:23

get better from here. Actually, no it

15:25

can't. It can get sadder from here.

15:27

And he'd get a

15:29

kick out of this when he hears it. But we wanted

15:32

to say get well soon, feel

15:34

better to our

15:36

friend Rob Moore down in Greenville, Texas who's

15:38

been in the hospital

15:40

lately. And I heard

15:43

from him he sent an email

15:45

and I just wanted to for officially

15:47

because he predates

15:49

the podcast. He liked me

15:51

back when I didn't want anybody to like me and

15:53

I didn't have to worry about it because nobody did.

15:57

Back when I was a mere heel manager.

16:00

He's one of the OG Cornet

16:03

people. So, and Rob,

16:06

you got to get better soon

16:08

so that you can come up again with

16:10

more ways to get me sued. You

16:13

remember Rob. I like Rob. Rob's a good guy.

16:15

He should bring back the Dingo Warrior Fan Club.

16:18

I think there's still time. Well,

16:21

you know, it, it, it was

16:24

a big, a big boom at

16:26

the start, but then slowly as,

16:28

as he changed his name from

16:30

Dingo Warrior to the Ultimate Warrior,

16:32

the Dingoites trickled away. You

16:34

know, there's sometimes I've seen a few pictures. I don't

16:36

even know if they're his of, I

16:39

want to say it was Brody, but maybe

16:42

a few different wrestlers, you know, about to enter

16:44

the, you know, you know, the building better than anybody,

16:46

but about to enter the main area where all the

16:48

fans are on the Sportatorium. Yeah. And he's

16:50

just standing in the background in the eighties. You

16:53

know, he was there for a lot of big

16:55

moments at the Sportatorium. Oh yeah. As a matter

16:57

of fact, they got really pissed at him. The

17:00

janitors and the people at Sportatorium, because

17:02

he stood in that same place Rob

17:04

did. Oh, stop it. See why he

17:06

didn't know why he got a mess with him now.

17:08

No, he stood, he stood in the same place. Not

17:11

only when the shows were going on, but after the

17:13

show was gone, he wouldn't leave. He brought like a

17:15

cooler and a blanket and

17:17

he stayed there during the week until it was so

17:19

he'd have that spot. It

17:22

took four or five years of his life,

17:24

but he managed to be

17:26

right there for every iconic moment. Anyway,

17:30

feel, feel better. Well,

17:32

the show can only get better, Rob. Please stay tuned.

17:35

Hey, by the way, happy birthday, Pete Letterberg. I'll throw

17:37

that out there too while we're doing it. How

17:39

old is he now? From

17:43

what I saw on Facebook. Well,

17:45

is that verified? Can

17:47

we get any documentation on that? Because

17:49

Pete's always looked older than me and

17:52

I'll be 63 this year. Interesting.

17:56

Pete looked 40 when he was 20 because I

17:58

knew him then. Again,

18:02

no matter what it is, whether it's

18:04

a birthday or an illness, he'll just

18:06

start insulting you until he thinks of

18:08

Paul Heyman and starts insulting him. No,

18:10

Pete's always looked better than Paul Heyman, for

18:14

heaven's sake. But no, Pete's always

18:16

been an adult, mature, intelligent. He

18:19

teaches mathematics. He's

18:21

got a very analytical mind. Maybe

18:24

he's the one that they should have

18:26

given $10 billion to to

18:28

start a wrestling company that's in

18:31

the analytics and the statistics. Are

18:34

you into statistics, Brian? And

18:37

analytics, of course. Well,

18:40

anyway, what are these statistics? You're

18:42

telling me that there's some news going on in the

18:45

world. Before we get to the television programs lately, we're

18:47

going to catch up on a few of these. And

18:49

by the way, then we're going to talk about, by

18:51

the time we get finished with this program, the

18:54

AEW pay-per-view that has not happened yet, that

18:56

happens this evening, we're going to take a

18:58

break, travel through time, blah, blah, blah. Get

19:01

your earmuffs now for the time

19:04

machine. But

19:06

I'm hearing that it's made the news that

19:09

the brand new Japanese girls,

19:12

women's, female, whatever the terminology

19:14

they use over there is,

19:16

idols, wrestling

19:18

promotion, joshis, puros,

19:22

whatever the fuck. That

19:25

promotion has opened up from our

19:27

friend who, what's his name? JR Rossi?

19:30

Rossi O'Gower. And he's not our friend.

19:32

I don't know him and he may be

19:34

your friend. I don't know. You tell me. Well,

19:37

I don't know. Here's the thing. I'm

19:39

pretty sure that I couldn't have picked this guy

19:41

out of a police lineup six months ago. I

19:44

don't remember. I maybe have heard. I don't

19:46

pay attention to the Japanese

19:49

women's wrestling promotions of apparently which

19:51

he is the, the guy

19:53

that just left stardom. We talked about, but the point

19:55

being is six months ago, I don't know who the

19:57

fuck this guy was. You're

20:00

hearing about him constantly, he's leaving stardom.

20:03

He's starting his own promotion,

20:05

he's luncheon with Triple H,

20:08

he's meeting with the

20:10

Pope. Where did

20:12

this guy come from? Why is he a

20:14

big deal now? What

20:17

is the name of his promotion? Japanese

20:20

girl wrestling dandelions? What

20:25

the fuck is this? Well Jim

20:27

Rossiagawa who again was, I get to

20:29

think he was the owner of stardom and then starnom.

20:32

He said he's a guest,

20:35

he had the sternum injury. It sounds like

20:37

a Japanese promotion at this point, sternum. But

20:40

he was the president of stardom

20:43

and then he sold it to Bushy Road who

20:45

owns New Japan and then he worked for them

20:47

and then they fired him

20:49

accusing him of trying to recruit people to start

20:51

his new company and then he started

20:53

his new company. And he started his new

20:56

company. With

20:58

Julia who... He proved them wrong. And

21:01

he has Julia who's about to start with

21:03

NXT and she was just with him at

21:05

WrestleMania. There were photos, a very

21:07

awkward one with Asuka. Were she

21:09

the one too pleased because there

21:11

is a history there and I

21:13

don't know too much to talk to it. But

21:15

here is the press release for

21:19

what is known as Dreamstar

21:22

Fighting Marigold. Okay.

21:26

Alright, let's stop. Let's go

21:28

to this press release. Wait,

21:30

no, stop there. Stop that

21:32

Dreamstar Fighting Marigold? What?

21:36

I know it's another... He's a big Fred

21:38

Koller fan. He's a big Fred Koller fan

21:40

and he remembers the Marigold. Marigold

21:43

Gardens this Tuesday night.

21:45

No, I understand it's a

21:47

different culture, it's a different language. Maybe

21:50

things translate differently when

21:54

they're using English words than... Tell

21:57

me what the fuck Dreamstar

21:59

Fighting Marigold? Marigold? What

22:02

does Marigold mean in Japan

22:04

that would make it

22:06

make sense after the dream, the star, and the

22:08

fighting? I'm

22:11

not exactly sure. Can

22:13

you Google that? Well, according to

22:15

what I'm reading, their first event coming up will

22:17

be Marigold Fields Forever. Oh, come on.

22:21

On May 20th, 2024 at Park and Hall. No,

22:23

fuck you. I'm hanging up. What

22:25

do you mean? Well, you're ribbing me

22:27

for the goddamn blooper reel or something.

22:30

Marigold Fields Forever will be their first...somebody

22:33

is yanking our chain here. They've sent

22:35

you this fucking press release as a

22:37

rib to see if we will go

22:39

along with it and make fools

22:41

of ourselves. This cannot be real. Well,

22:45

apparently this is real.

22:47

I'm clicking links here to see. This is

22:49

a video of the press conference. We don't need that

22:51

right now. Here's a press release. Tokyo,

22:54

Rossiogawa's new women's wrestling

22:56

organization, Marigold, on

22:59

caps, will

23:01

hold its inaugural event on May

23:03

20th, 2024 at Park and Hall in Tokyo.

23:06

The card will air live on the Wrestle

23:08

Universe streaming app with both

23:11

English and Japanese commentary options.

23:14

Now, is this a widely available,

23:18

I guess, everything is widely available

23:20

as an app, but is this

23:22

a widely viewed app, this app

23:26

they're on? I have no idea. And that's not

23:28

even the announcement of the company. That's just the

23:30

announcement of the first event. Well,

23:34

they're up and running. And there will

23:37

be their Marigold Fields Forever or until

23:40

you sell your company and start another

23:42

company to take a look. Let me

23:44

take you down, because I'm going to.

23:48

There was something I saw. I've got to find an event

23:50

for a moment, Jim. Did you

23:52

see the thing about their hiring

23:54

practices, like who they're recruiting? No,

23:57

of course. In the press kit that I received, I was like,

24:00

in the mail, I have all the

24:02

information to see

24:04

anything about. Do you think I got a recruitment letter

24:07

or is it a draft? Do

24:09

they like send letters out to miscellaneous

24:12

young Japanese women? You are hereby

24:14

ordered to appear. Greetings.

24:18

Is it mandatory? What is the

24:20

recruiting process for

24:22

the marigolders?

24:25

Well, according to what they announced, they'll

24:28

be recruiting for the new promotion via

24:30

auditions. They're looking for

24:32

young unmarried women the age

24:34

between 13 and 30. Oh,

24:37

come on. So

24:39

there's two things there, obviously. Can you come

24:41

out? Well, first, can you just come out

24:43

and say we're looking for women, 13 and

24:45

up, to train to,

24:53

regardless of whether it's a shoot

24:55

or a work, a

24:57

hard physical, are

24:59

they still allowing that? We've

25:01

heard all these stories about Riho and all

25:04

these other small children and

25:06

seen the video have these matches.

25:09

Is this a thing you can put right out

25:11

in the fucking newspaper over there that you're

25:13

doing and nobody comes

25:16

knocking, knocking, knocking on your door? It

25:19

is crazy. Now, again, the history of Japanese

25:21

women's wrestling and I'm not comparing now to

25:23

then were in different times, but traditionally they

25:25

started them young and they had to retire

25:27

by what, 26, right? It was a forced

25:29

retirement. Yes, but all

25:31

those girls seem to be, what,

25:34

16 at least in those days, 16 to

25:36

26. It was a

25:39

teeny bopper kind of thing, but 13? And

25:44

then nine-year-olds or at least he didn't

25:46

say 9 and up. But yes, a

25:49

couple troubling things there. Well, the unmarried

25:51

part too, the idea that they

25:53

don't want anyone who's attached in

25:56

a relationship. That's telling. Again,

26:04

some of these things you're just not supposed to come

26:06

out and say, the idea

26:08

was it's the same principle as in

26:10

the 70s. Nobody

26:13

wanted Sean Cassidy

26:15

or Leif Garrett or

26:18

Marty Gennady or any of

26:21

the young teeny bopper idols, the

26:23

record companies or the movie producers

26:25

or whoever the fuck didn't want

26:28

people to know they were married

26:30

because that diminishes

26:32

the appeal to the teeny bopper girls but

26:34

you can't just come out and say, no,

26:36

that's a fucking prerequisite,

26:39

just kfabe it or

26:41

hide it or you

26:45

can't kfabe anything in these days but

26:49

I don't know what... How does

26:51

this fly over there as a statement that

26:54

a company can put out in public?

26:58

Well, we shall see. I mean, I guess

27:01

it's a cultural thing if

27:03

anything. What does it say

27:05

about parents? And

27:07

I know again, we've

27:09

just talked about Terry Gordy, he was 13 or 14 years

27:12

old when he started

27:14

trading. He was six feet tall and

27:16

220 pounds or whatever he was also

27:18

and it was outside

27:20

chance. Chattanooga. But a

27:22

13, 14, 15, 16 year old girl in any country that is...

27:31

What are their parents thinking

27:34

that they're not

27:37

training for a legitimate

27:39

sport where yes,

27:41

injuries are goddamn possible

27:43

but I

27:45

would think the injury rate in wrestling

27:48

where you're on purpose

27:50

and picking people up and throwing

27:52

them down on purpose, why would you

27:54

want your kids

27:57

to do that with who? Who would be...

28:00

doing that with them? It would be my

28:02

first question. And this

28:04

guy, I

28:06

don't know specifically if it's just

28:08

one picture I saw, but a

28:12

lot of these indie

28:14

Japanese wrestling promoters look like

28:16

the goddamn heels in the

28:18

fucking Raymond Shalflicks. Right?

28:21

A little fucking squirrely. Well, Rossiogawa certainly

28:23

has a look to him. It's

28:26

a little- I go villain. I go a little bit of a villain.

28:30

What should I wear to this big event? I

28:32

know. I'll dress sinister. It's

28:38

the sinister ball. But,

28:42

you know, so I

28:45

do it and the people, good

28:48

Lord, the people that support

28:50

the idea

28:52

here in this country, in the United

28:54

States of these young

28:57

girls, it's wonderful they can go

28:59

and help fulfill their dreams

29:01

under the auspices of this

29:03

golden harvest fucking movie villain.

29:05

And who knows who his

29:08

trainers are when

29:10

they're 13 years old and bump

29:13

around and do the

29:15

brain buster and everything. They

29:19

support that type of behavior.

29:23

But yet they are

29:26

fucking highly offended at social

29:29

issues over here that are

29:31

mostly, in some

29:33

cases, overblown. I'm

29:35

just wondering where the disconnect is.

29:39

Well, Jim, on this topic, this

29:41

is some interesting stuff. I have not heard all of it.

29:43

I've seen these clips, but I've had a busy few days,

29:45

so we'll play it on the air. Kenny Omega, who's

29:49

in the middle of his babyface run as

29:51

a video game streamer. Well,

29:53

yeah, he actually started,

29:55

what did the kids say, spitting

29:57

facts? He actually started making

29:59

me hit. Reevaluate my opinion of it with

30:01

some of the things he said the other day

30:03

and in between people

30:06

getting tea bagged at his video game

30:08

or whatever. Well, apparently he

30:12

spoke about Rossi Ogawa and this new

30:14

company. I see the clip

30:16

here. I'll press play in a second with a few clips. Well,

30:19

you would think he would be familiar if anybody

30:21

was here on this soil

30:23

with the Japanese

30:26

independent women's wrestling

30:29

scene over there. Yeah,

30:31

you would think so and he has Michael

30:33

Nakazawa behind him. Oh good I'm sure he

30:35

does and from what's been written to me

30:37

here Michaels nodding along the whole time. So

30:39

let's play this We have a

30:41

few parts and stop it whenever you want Jim Kenny

30:44

Omega playing video games. I don't know about the game

30:47

talking about Rossi Ogawa tea baggery to

30:49

come. I Don't

30:52

care about Rossi being an e-drome. I

30:54

mean whatever it's some big deal But

30:56

that's that's his she's done That's

31:00

not even the tip of the image from guys

31:07

Don't you Just

31:10

you freaking wait Just you freaking

31:12

wait if you guys are still interested

31:15

in wrestling and you're still kind of

31:17

listening to the stories and reading stuff

31:20

When it finally comes out or

31:23

when I finally come Wait,

31:25

wait, wait, wait for a moment What

31:30

the fuck is he alluding to He

31:34

was audibly gasping and goping

31:36

and normally he's he's

31:38

very breathy But he's not gasping and

31:40

goping and in the video he's shaking

31:42

his head Disapproving no

31:45

as he's saying these things. So

31:47

let's go back to this There

31:50

are a lot and it's a plane going over my head And I have

31:54

the window open so it sounds

31:56

like Shea Stadium. Hold on. We're gonna play this It's

32:00

leaving in five, four, three,

32:02

two, one. A

32:05

lot of people that refuse to work with them for the very same

32:07

reason. Some of those people

32:09

are even in WWE. Some of those

32:12

people are in AEW. And

32:14

they have a very good reason. So I'm just like, yeah, I decided

32:16

to wake up and not like this guy. Oh.

32:22

Whoop. And

32:24

hey. Let me stop it there. So in

32:26

WWE and AEW, there are women and obviously

32:28

there are Japanese women wrestlers. There,

32:31

but there are also American women who have

32:33

worked there extensively who didn't

32:35

just wake up one morning and decide, I

32:38

don't like Ross Yogawa. Something

32:40

happened. Yeah. And

32:43

that's what he's saying, right? That's

32:45

exactly what he's saying. He

32:47

starts out with, oh,

32:49

you don't know the thing when the

32:52

stories come out. Stories come out on

32:54

this guy. And then

32:58

you've talked about it that there is

33:00

some history that maybe we should research

33:02

at this point with Oscar

33:04

up there in the WWE and that

33:06

she didn't she at one point leave

33:10

a company over

33:14

this guy. But what the fuck

33:16

is he talking about? Yeah. At

33:18

one point, I think I remember, and again, we'll

33:20

look into this. I think Oscar once put out

33:22

a social media post saying that stardom

33:25

began as a reaction to her.

33:28

Like something happened. That's what it was. That's

33:31

what it was. And then she came to the States and

33:33

she became a big star here, but something

33:36

made her do that. But

33:38

let's go back to Kenny Omega with Michael

33:41

Nakazawa. I don't know if he's in his

33:43

bathrobe or what's going on here, but let's go back to this. Nodding

33:45

alone. If you want

33:48

to know sort of along what lines they

33:50

treadle amongst, the dude

33:52

just flat out said, hey, we're looking for girls from

33:54

like ages 13 to 21 that don't

33:57

have a boyfriend or aren't married. We

34:01

already know that he puts underage

34:03

girls in very revealing swimsuit calendars

34:05

and books and

34:08

I wish that's all he did. Oh!

34:11

Alright, let's stop it there

34:14

for a moment. There's more audio to play

34:16

but wow! Fair

34:21

in mind we have to point out the

34:26

conflict of interest of a guy that had

34:28

a match with a nine-year-old girl in front

34:30

of people is saying these things but at

34:32

least that was a wrestling match. Maybe

34:35

they were confiding. That was only an offense to

34:37

the fucking business rather than... Maybe

34:41

some of the girls that Kenny was working with over there

34:43

confided with him on this stuff and again he ran the

34:46

women's division and he brought a lot of his friends over.

34:49

He does seem to be someone that

34:51

would elicit girl talk from troubled

34:54

people. He just said that

34:56

Rossy O'Gow was looking for young, unattached

34:59

women and he puts underage girls in swimsuit

35:01

calendars and that's not even the tip of

35:03

the iceberg. What

35:05

was it? I wish that's all he

35:07

did? Yeah! Hold

35:12

on, we have more. Let's go to more.

35:15

Oh please! I'm hooked now there, Fisherman. This

35:17

is the biggest babyface turn of all time.

35:19

Kenny Omega is a video game streamer. Let's

35:21

go to this. He's outing...

35:23

I shouldn't say anything. Let's go to

35:26

this. From someone who lived it, breathed

35:29

it, who has very

35:31

close friends in the industry. I

35:34

don't mean necessarily the wrestling

35:36

industry, I mean the industry. I

35:39

mean like the government issued press and

35:42

the information that they know. I'm

35:52

just going to leave it at that. I

35:54

would say don't be so quick to

35:57

listen to praise or that indivisible.

36:00

individual because someday, not sure

36:02

when it'll be, maybe

36:04

not today, maybe not tomorrow, but

36:07

someday, people

36:09

will know the truth. And

36:12

what they do with that truth, I don't know. Well,

36:16

they share it. But

36:21

a lot of the higher ups in Japan,

36:24

they know exactly what kind of business

36:26

he's up to and

36:31

what he's been up to for decades.

36:37

Oh, I got to say. Well,

36:41

that seems to be enough. Jeez,

36:43

what he's been up to for decades, the

36:45

higher ups have always known about it. What

36:49

is going on? And

36:52

after hearing this, how could anyone root for the guy? Jesus.

36:56

Well, there's

36:58

going to be people out there saying,

37:00

oh, I've never believed a word that

37:03

comes out of Kenny's mouth until now

37:05

because it's detrimental to the

37:07

guy that's featuring our favorite

37:09

wrestlers. But

37:13

the one thing we've always admitted that

37:15

Kenny was well versed on and up

37:17

to date on was where to find

37:20

Japanese indie women wrestlers. And

37:25

apparently, that talent,

37:29

quote unquote, has come in useful

37:31

for once. And

37:35

I wonder if, can

37:37

you just TKO

37:39

or WWE

37:41

or Nick Khan or Marc Shapiro

37:43

or the Pope need to investigate

37:47

who they're doing business with with this guy?

37:50

Or do they just want to get Julia

37:52

away from him and then they

37:54

can say Sayonara? Well,

37:57

hold on. Here's another quick clip,

37:59

apparently. let's go to this. My

38:02

only comment, I'm

38:04

with Oscar. That's it. I'm with Oscar.

38:06

Always have been. We

38:09

bros and

38:12

so you got her reasons

38:14

and probably the same one is mine. My

38:17

only comment, let me stop it there, it's about to repeat

38:20

but he's saying he's with Oscar and she probably has the

38:22

same reasons as him. Well,

38:25

you know, it makes you think Kenny

38:28

Omega AWVP, although he

38:30

basically shadowed over his EVP role

38:32

last time we heard audio from him,

38:36

but makes you think Tony Khan must know

38:38

too and Tony Khan was in

38:40

celebratory mode when Rossi Ogawa got fired. Oh,

38:43

that's right. That's right. Tony

38:49

must know too. Yeah. Well,

38:53

because obviously Tony would have,

38:55

this is someone apparently that Tony would have

38:57

wanted to do business with running outlaw shows

38:59

in Japan, you got to get a hold

39:02

of that guy so Kenny probably had to

39:04

smart him up at some point. Hmm.

39:07

Wow. Well,

39:09

again, if he'll stay out

39:14

of the ring and we can

39:16

just hear him actually

39:18

be honest about these

39:21

various things that he might know something about,

39:23

maybe Kenny has a future with us. Next

39:26

week's show looks really good. Kenny Omega

39:29

captures Jose Gonzalez and tortures him. He

39:32

really is turning babyface this guy. Oh,

39:36

and then he's gonna bring back seven

39:38

kittens and a puppy for his

39:40

friends to adopt from Barbados or

39:42

wherever the fuck. Kenny

39:44

Omega forces Michael Naka that would eat

39:46

his NDA live on a stream while

39:49

he plays Street Fighter 6. I

40:02

assume there was some tea bagging going on. Now

40:06

we know what that is also on

40:09

Twitter, everybody sent it's,

40:12

it's when you hit some control that makes

40:14

the character jump up and down, but you're

40:16

on top of the guy. So it looks

40:19

like as, as one person described, like you

40:21

are leaping up and

40:23

forcefully dropping your testicles in their

40:25

face. Unquote. Yeah,

40:27

they don't really have that option in MLB the

40:29

show. And I don't remember that in Red Dead.

40:32

And certainly when I was playing these good games,

40:34

I wasn't looking for ways to drop my testicles

40:36

on my opponent's face. And they

40:38

didn't have it in Tetris either. They didn't

40:40

have it in Tetris, at least not in the USA. They were

40:42

all square. That's right. All right. Well, we'll

40:45

stay on top of the Marigold

40:47

Dream Star Fighting News, as well as

40:49

the Kanyo Mega Video Game

40:51

streaming news, as well as hopefully these

40:53

stories that I would appreciate if they

40:55

would come out in the near future

40:58

so that we could all be shocked

41:01

and mortified as he claimed we would be.

41:04

But apparently it's worth the wait. Well,

41:07

he laid it out there. I

41:09

mean, if there's not something, I

41:11

mean, jeez. I

41:13

mean, you know. He all but said

41:15

this guy's a pedophile. Let's just be

41:17

honest. Oh, come on now. He all

41:19

but said this guy likes underage girls.

41:21

But he did not say that. He

41:24

all but said that. All but said

41:26

that. Well, all but is, I don't

41:28

believe is actionable. Of course we can

41:30

contact or possibly he may have to

41:33

contact Steven P. I bet nobody will

41:35

action this though, but Steven P. New,

41:37

newlawoffice.com, 877-50 Steve. But

41:42

I have a

41:44

feeling that Rossi Ogawa probably wouldn't

41:46

want to go through Discovery. Same

41:49

as a few other weasels that we know. You

41:52

should hear Steven action. Unbelievable.

41:55

And well, you should have seen what I heard that

41:57

he did the other day, but nevertheless. While

42:00

we're on the subject of wild,

42:04

shocking statements, I guess that may

42:07

be the best transition, we

42:10

talked about something like

42:12

this several months ago, but

42:14

now apparently some either

42:17

reputable or formerly reputable publication

42:20

or entity has

42:23

reported a valuation

42:25

of AEW wrestling.

42:28

And Brian, so of course

42:30

then the people who like that

42:32

kind of thing have taken it and run with it.

42:35

But if you examine the situation

42:38

and you see where the

42:41

information came from, it mitigates

42:43

it somewhat. But was

42:45

it Forbes? Forbes Online,

42:48

not magazine, they maybe didn't want

42:50

to put it on paper, has

42:52

said that AEW is valued at

42:54

$2 billion? That

42:59

is correct. Forbes just put up an article,

43:02

April 18, 2024, the most

43:04

valuable combat sports promotions, 2024,

43:09

by Mike Ozanian and

43:12

Justin Teitelbaum. And

43:14

well, those got to be assumed names. Nobody

43:17

wanted to put their fucking name on this. I'm

43:19

just quickly reading through the early part here to

43:21

see if they explain how they came to these

43:23

conclusions. Well, I

43:25

heard one of their sources was Uncle Dave,

43:28

but while you're scanning

43:30

through that, we'll

43:32

talk about this in a couple of departments.

43:36

But this has led

43:39

to people going out of their minds on

43:41

Twitter or whatever about, well, that's why Vince

43:43

has $2 billion. He's

43:45

going to buy AEW. Have you seen this shit? I

43:49

have. No, it's ridiculous because Tony wouldn't sell it to

43:51

him. Well, like Vince

43:53

would spend his $2 billion to buy this.

43:55

I mean, there's so many things wrong with

43:58

this. Oh

44:01

my god, but do you have your information there? I

44:03

have my information here. We'll get to wrestling, but why

44:05

don't we go in order until we get there? Number

44:07

one on the list worth $11.3 billion is the UFC,

44:09

their 2023 revenue, $1.29 billion, their

44:20

operator Dana White,

44:24

and their top draws are, and it lists a

44:26

few of the fighters here. Number

44:28

two on the list, $6.8 billion

44:30

for WWE, their 2023 revenue, $1.33 billion,

44:33

which is above

44:37

the UFC actually, operator

44:39

Nick Khan, top draws,

44:42

Roman Reigns, Cody Rhodes, Rhea Ripley.

44:45

WWE has been the premier name in professional wrestling

44:48

since it was founded by Vince McMahon who

44:50

purchased what was then known

44:52

as WWF from his father in 1982.

44:57

But for the sake

44:59

of brevity, we'll excuse the various

45:01

initial errors in general. They

45:04

dropped WWF in 79, ladies

45:06

and gentlemen. With stars

45:08

like Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve

45:10

Austin, The Rock, and

45:13

The Undertaker, WWE and

45:15

its annual WrestleMania events became a

45:17

cultural phenomenon. Today, WWE

45:21

reaches more than one billion people weekly

45:23

across the globe when its three

45:25

television shows and produces more than

45:27

200 live events every year. Any

45:31

comments? Oh no, I'm waiting

45:33

for more. I'm okay. So that was

45:35

number two, $6.8 billion. The

45:38

only thing I've got to say so

45:40

far is it seems like the WWE

45:44

ought to be valued at about the same thing as

45:46

the UFC. Where do they get the

45:48

fucking $4.5 billion fucking leg

45:50

up? Now this next one

45:52

is the one everyone's talking about. No.

45:55

This is two of three free articles from Forbes.

45:57

Let me access that. But it can be number

45:59

three. What the— Number three

46:02

worth $2 billion AEW. Their

46:07

estimated 2023 revenue, again they're privately owned

46:09

so there's no public record, estimated

46:12

2023 revenue $250 million. Operator

46:17

Tony Khan. The top

46:19

draws, Young Bucks, Jon

46:22

Moxley, Kenny Omega. The

46:26

youngest promotion on the list, AEW

46:28

became the primary challenger to WWE when it

46:31

launched in 2019. AEW

46:34

got immediate legitimacy from

46:36

superstars like Chris Jericho, Kenny

46:38

Omega, and the Young Bucks. While

46:42

a partnership with New Japan Pro Wrestling and

46:44

the purchase of Ring of Honor have helped

46:47

the young brand build its roster and

46:49

match library. Tell

46:51

me you don't know anything about wrestling without telling

46:53

me you don't know anything about wrestling. But

46:56

it will be more shocking

46:58

is this is a list

47:00

of combat sports leagues. Is

47:02

there no other combat

47:05

sports league? No. I

47:08

mean at one time it might have been Strike Force,

47:10

at one time it might have been Bellator, but

47:12

there's no other mixed martial arts league

47:15

in the world, no other fucking boxing

47:17

entity. We

47:21

go UFC, we go WWE, and

47:23

then it falls cascading down the

47:26

mountain to AEW in this ridiculous

47:28

valuation but there's nothing else

47:30

out there. But you got to look at everything

47:32

in perspective. Now AEW $2 billion

47:35

valuation is completely ridiculous, we'll get to that.

47:37

But here's the rest of the list real

47:39

quick. Number four, worth

47:41

$1.3 billion, one championship. I

47:46

believe that is an MMA company. Number

47:49

five, worth $850 million, match room boxing. Okay.

47:58

Not a big boxing name like Don- King

48:00

anymore is there? Number six was

48:03

six hundred and ninety million the

48:05

PFL the professional fighting league I

48:07

believe Number

48:09

seven were six hundred and thirty million Top-ranked

48:12

boxing Bob Aram stole live. Oh

48:14

my god. What is he now?

48:16

Is he fucking older than Wayne

48:18

Newton? He's got to be in

48:20

his 90s. Hold on Bob Bob.

48:22

Yeah, look up Bob. Aram Jesus

48:24

Christ. He Yeah,

48:28

he promoted David versus Goliath He

48:31

is at number seven on the

48:33

list number eight premier boxing championship

48:35

was 600 million number

48:38

nine golden boy promotions Oscar

48:41

de la jolla 450 million and

48:44

finally number ten Kambate

48:46

global Where the hundred

48:48

and twenty million that's Campbell McLaren a guy from the

48:51

early days of the UFC working for Bob Myrowitz There

48:54

you go 120 million and of

48:56

course since these figures are all apparently just pull

48:58

completely out of this fucking guy's ass except

49:01

for well That's the break UFC

49:03

and WWE because they're publicly traded

49:05

that there's some element of that's

49:08

a legitimate real-world valuation here's

49:10

if there's a few things here one people who

49:13

don't pay attention to the

49:16

financial world or Remember

49:18

Steve Forbes when he ran for president

49:21

or even remember what Forbes magazine was

49:24

before that? This isn't

49:26

that In 1982 to be a rich kid I

49:30

had a picture taken of me

49:33

reading a Forbes magazine and

49:35

that was 40 years ago I

49:37

don't know anyone who reads it. Let's put it that way and

49:39

I know a lot of people read a lot of things about

49:41

money so it's

49:43

not what it once was and Looking

49:47

at this list. It's not an ae w

49:50

issue because everyone's focused on that and again

49:52

WWE is undervalued based on You

49:54

know any multiple you want to do yeah, ae

49:57

w is overvalued. I have to think a lot of these

49:59

other promotions are overvalued as well, to be quite

50:01

honest with you. And

50:04

the AEW one,

50:06

it references the purchase of

50:08

Ring of Honor. Tony Khan purchased that. He's made

50:11

note of that many times. That's a separate thing

50:13

than AEW. So it actually is

50:15

nothing to do with AEW. Well, but it bolstered his roster

50:17

though. The wording of the

50:19

article is tortured, but the meaning

50:21

is clear. It bolstered his roster

50:24

of another 40 fucking guys

50:26

that he doesn't have any room to use

50:28

and many of them are worth

50:30

it. So here's how the valuation works. Evaluation

50:32

is what someone would pay for it. So

50:36

you have to ask yourself realistically, you

50:38

know, unless it's like the Saudis with

50:40

magical oil money, would

50:43

someone pay $2 billion for AEW? And

50:45

if so, what would they get? Unlike

50:49

WWE and they're making

50:51

layoffs, we've heard about in the last few

50:53

weeks of people who are longtime veterans of

50:55

the company, because they're merging the companies together,

51:00

but they have an infrastructure. Is

51:03

there any infrastructure in AEW? If you bought

51:05

AEW, would you say, all right, Tony's

51:07

selling it. He's going to get out of the way and

51:10

at least we got this executive team. We'll

51:12

go to the, uh, to the AEW tower

51:16

and talk to the executives and

51:18

the marketing department and the production

51:21

chief and all of these people

51:24

in this entity, and we will tell them that we have

51:26

bought it and we are now the new owners and there'll

51:28

be, Oh, a hundred

51:31

or 200 people there at least

51:33

for, well, goddamn, that's back when

51:35

WWF was a just

51:37

a measly, you know, under

51:39

a billion dollar company, there'll be three or

51:41

400 people in this office, all doing these

51:43

various chores for a $2 billion company. And

51:45

we'll be able to direct them to keep

51:47

doing what they're doing. That's what you're

51:49

saying, right? I'm saying there's no infrastructure. There's no

51:52

executive team that any buyer would want to keep

51:54

on. So now there's

51:56

no infrastructure that's going to have to be restaffed. You

51:59

mean that the tail. me that a lot

52:01

of these people either like the

52:03

former legal chief also did work for

52:05

the football teams and

52:08

the other entities under Shad's

52:10

umbrella, but you're saying that

52:12

also that most of these people were hired

52:14

because they were either

52:17

fans or close to some of

52:19

the indie wrestlers and their heads

52:21

of departments that would need to

52:23

go? What I'm saying is this, take the

52:25

booking out of the picture for now. Look

52:27

at everything else with AEW. If you

52:29

purchased AEW, $2 billion, if you purchased

52:32

AEW, what department

52:35

do you think is doing well? Is

52:37

it marketing? Is it promotion? Is

52:40

it advanced ticket sales? What

52:43

department do you think is, you

52:45

know what, we definitely don't want to mess with this

52:47

department. They have value. No

52:50

one. There's nothing there infrastructure

52:52

wise. And again, their COO just

52:54

started. Let's see what happens.

52:58

There's nothing there. So you have nothing there. What

53:00

are you buying? You get the tape catalog.

53:03

There's some value there. Is

53:06

it in the billions of dollars worth of value?

53:09

No. The wrestling

53:11

contracts, how

53:13

much value is that? How

53:16

much value is... Well, that is... You overpaid a

53:18

bunch of people. It's the

53:20

most expensive roster, potentially

53:24

the most expensive guaranteed roster

53:26

in the history of wrestling.

53:29

And if not very close to,

53:31

I would think what WCW had

53:34

in the late 90s, if not

53:36

exceeding that. Maybe

53:39

adjusted for inflation, maybe come out even.

53:41

Let's talk consumer electronics. How's that video

53:44

game? It's an epic disaster.

53:46

Somebody just tweeted that to the $10 aisle

53:48

now at Walmart, fight forever. Someone just

53:50

tweeted there were less people playing fight

53:53

forever than like the WWE 2K game

53:55

from my 2019 live online right now. Or

53:59

when they sent it. So

54:01

there's no, there's nothing there. You have no

54:03

value now with the video game division and you've hurt your

54:05

credibility by putting out a game that wasn't ready. Even

54:08

amongst the people that like you. So

54:11

there's no value there. Tony

54:13

has built this whole thing. Wait

54:15

a minute, wait a minute. The

54:17

television? Boy! That's

54:20

the point though. Boy, howdy. You

54:22

know, there are two, four, five

54:24

hours of weekly national cable television.

54:28

Tony has built this whole thing. By

54:30

publicly saying it'll all make sense, it'll all

54:32

work out. Because when

54:34

the renewal comes up, I'm going

54:36

to make a killing. We're very

54:38

valuable. This

54:41

is what we're going to be able to do. Since

54:44

that period of time, the overall rating has

54:46

gone down drastically. I

54:49

believe the key demo is not as high as it used to be

54:51

either. It's a

54:53

company constantly, whether you

54:55

want to believe it's self-induced because it is, or

54:58

whether you want to deny it, they're constantly in

55:00

the middle of drama. You

55:02

don't think executives notice that? Anything

55:05

like that, it turns people off too.

55:08

Tony's publicly talking about wanting to get

55:10

this giant ratings increase. So

55:13

when someone throws their cards... Oh, right, right. Yeah, he

55:15

wants a ratings increase, but he wants his... Oh, excuse

55:17

me. Rights increase too. Rights increase. So when someone throws

55:19

their cards in front of the table, the

55:22

network should say, okay, actually,

55:25

you're underperforming where you were performing when they gave

55:27

you... When your friend gave you that nice raise

55:29

a few months in. You're

55:32

underperforming that. We

55:35

think you should get less. You

55:37

know what? We don't see the added value from 2019 or 2020 to

55:39

now. Well,

55:42

nah, hold on. Hold on.

55:45

There is added value because

55:47

if has been intimated and

55:50

hinted at, almost outright

55:52

admitted, WBD,

55:54

the corporate entity, what had they've got

55:57

a piece of the pay-per-views and Tony's

55:59

now announced. We're just good,

56:01

fuck it, we're gonna do a paper review every month for

56:03

the rest of the year. He's

56:05

trying to bump that something up, right?

56:08

The problem is if Tony walks out of this with

56:10

a deal with Warner Brothers Discovery and there's

56:14

no giant bump in

56:16

money, then the obvious becomes

56:18

obvious to everyone. That it

56:20

isn't a real business, it's a

56:22

hobby that could exist no matter what financial

56:25

windfalls happen. Now

56:27

if he gets 250 million

56:29

a year, that'd be pretty incredible.

56:32

Is he? See,

56:35

that's the thing is that you can

56:37

draw on public records

56:40

and statements with TKO,

56:42

UFC, WWE and those

56:46

numbers are legitimate, they gross a

56:48

billion fucking dollars or whatever. Where

56:51

did he gross 250? Examine

56:54

these amounts of money. Where

56:58

did he gross 250 million dollars

57:00

without spending 500 million to do it? Because

57:04

you look at the half-empty buildings, you look

57:06

at the guaranteed contracts for the stars and

57:09

the bigger signings and the production

57:12

ain't cheap. And

57:16

so for a two billion dollar

57:18

value, the conspiracy nuts,

57:21

that's why Vince has got that

57:23

two billion dollars, right? Do

57:26

you think that Vince would

57:28

buy this company

57:30

that Tony's already kind of started and

57:32

fucked up for two

57:34

billion dollars? If he wanted to... Vince

57:37

had all the money he was ever gonna need for

57:39

the rest of his life before he got this two

57:41

billion dollars, right? So let's just pull this out of

57:43

our ass too and say Vince has two billion dollars

57:45

to spend on wrestling. He

57:47

could go to fucking TBS and say, dump

57:51

these other guys and just fucking run

57:53

my show with my new company, you don't have

57:55

to pay me anything, just put me on the

57:58

air. And he wouldn't give me that. of

58:00

a shit because he's

58:02

got 2 billion. I'm

58:05

almost positive that $2 billion

58:07

would come close to buying

58:09

either TBS or TNT out

58:13

from under the goddamn WBD

58:17

BDSM Empire they've got going on over

58:19

there. Can you Google how much is

58:21

TBS worth as a network alone or

58:24

would it be the valuation of the whole empire?

58:28

Because the point is if

58:31

you're talking about that much money

58:33

then Vince

58:35

would have no incentive whatsoever to

58:37

fucking make any for five fucking

58:39

years at this ridiculous

58:42

rate and could

58:44

just go in and say I'm going

58:46

to sign up all of his guys when

58:48

their contracts are over with. I'll provide you

58:50

the show for free. I'm going to promote

58:52

pay-per-view like we used to back in the

58:54

old days and you just air my show.

58:58

He could do any fucking thing but he wouldn't do

59:01

that because he wouldn't

59:05

purchase something that he could fucking

59:07

start on his own for less

59:09

than that and fucking undercut everybody.

59:12

You see where I'm going with this? Yeah.

59:16

So why do people believe these things?

59:18

So when we're talking about what are

59:20

you selling, the television

59:23

deal, again at some point that next year

59:25

Tony said I'm going to sell it, the

59:28

television deal will be a part of it. You

59:30

always have to worry about someone taking over a station

59:33

and just saying I don't want

59:35

wrestling or even I don't want anything that

59:37

looks so much like a markdown from WWE

59:40

right now. You

59:42

sell out and it looks beautiful and the camera work and

59:44

everything. You don't

59:46

know. Yeah. So If

59:48

you tried to buy it now, you

59:50

would be getting basically the WWE talent

59:52

equivalent of one of those three-year contracts

59:54

where they can cut you every three

59:56

months. If

1:00:00

if you bought the company and a

1:00:02

with the current rights deal that expires

1:00:04

within. Six. To nine months

1:00:06

or whatever the fuck it is that your

1:00:08

you've gotta six to nine months fuckin' Guarantee

1:00:11

you're on the air and and what fuck.

1:00:14

Could. Tony seller for six hundred and

1:00:16

sixty million probably. Two billion

1:00:19

years to find some was just can be loose

1:00:21

and fast money Not caring about the piano by

1:00:23

Tony? Yes upon someone's going to think about it

1:00:25

like Tony. Because. No network

1:00:27

and by that. Just. For

1:00:29

content. For. The archive

1:00:31

isn't worth that much. And we've

1:00:34

learned from Tbs. it's not that easy just by

1:00:36

a company of what executives in charge. Year

1:00:40

that worked so well, the first time

1:00:42

didn't it wouldn't that be at one

1:00:44

that not be a kick in ahead

1:00:46

as Dean Martin used to? If

1:00:49

Tbs turned around and Tony you're

1:00:51

struggling financially good, bail you out,

1:00:53

will buy this thing for whatever.

1:00:56

And. They did a same thing forty

1:00:58

years later. See their

1:01:01

to great Now I have read that

1:01:03

the exclusive negotiating period as ended. So.

1:01:06

Tony could shop. The. A

1:01:08

D W package including rings as. Well.

1:01:11

That's the question. Is. Are someone

1:01:13

out there is going to pay more than C B

1:01:15

S? D.

1:01:18

R L K again. And.

1:01:20

Debate others are doing business with not Fox

1:01:22

anymore but doing business with Usa. Some As

1:01:24

and B. right?

1:01:27

Netflix. Which. Has

1:01:29

been and and people probably realize. What's.

1:01:32

People are really surprised Me: Yes,

1:01:35

But. With us for debate of Aegis

1:01:37

went through all of this and. We

1:01:41

know who. Basically, we believe

1:01:43

we know mostly who was

1:01:45

interested in who won obviously

1:01:47

and. Some. Of those

1:01:49

people and going to be interested in a distant

1:01:51

number two. Wrestling. Promotion are they

1:01:54

so as. and then it's

1:01:56

it's tony got tbs because

1:02:00

The guy that, what was the guy's name

1:02:02

originally that put him on the air? He

1:02:04

did Kevin Riley. He didn't

1:02:06

even know. He had no idea

1:02:08

that TBS

1:02:11

had owned a wrestling company at one point because it

1:02:13

had been 20 fucking years, right?

1:02:16

And this was a new guy, but he knew Tony

1:02:18

because of the, the, the

1:02:21

football and the soccer and the this

1:02:23

and that and the other thing, the,

1:02:25

the chrome bumper hitches, whatever the fuck

1:02:27

they're all into. And

1:02:30

Tony, Tony, yeah,

1:02:32

yeah. You guys used to own the

1:02:34

rivals to Vince. We did. And

1:02:37

that's how that whole thing started. But that guy's

1:02:39

not there anymore. And

1:02:44

again, you know, he's the one that gave

1:02:46

him a raise, right? Very soon afterwards. And

1:02:49

he ain't there no more. Did I mention that? And

1:02:53

I don't, I don't know what kind of

1:02:55

leverage they've got because who's going to want

1:02:58

to bid when they look at the track

1:03:00

record, the way the show looks cause of

1:03:03

the buildings being empty, the fucking ratings

1:03:06

pattern trending downward and

1:03:09

a constant drama where you're not going in

1:03:11

and dealing, even if they don't like Vince,

1:03:13

a lot of these

1:03:16

network TV people had,

1:03:19

when they dealt with the WWE, they had

1:03:21

four or five people that they could meet

1:03:23

with that didn't include Vince. It still came

1:03:25

off as goddamn competent

1:03:27

adult professionals high up in the

1:03:30

company. Who

1:03:32

would that, who's the next besides Tony,

1:03:34

most important person there? Jack Kirby, the

1:03:36

new COO. And

1:03:39

then do they have a Nick

1:03:41

Khan? Do they have a Triple H? Do

1:03:43

they have a goddamn, all

1:03:45

the other people Vince has had speaking

1:03:47

for his office staff? Here's an interesting

1:03:49

question. Does Tony

1:03:51

sign a deal if it's

1:03:53

for a giant increase? Let's

1:03:56

say $200 million a year, something crazy.

1:04:01

But he has to listen to network

1:04:03

suggestions. He has to

1:04:05

step down from being the head

1:04:07

of creative. That's

1:04:10

a question. Or, you know, if they said we want a

1:04:12

bigger piece of the pie, if

1:04:14

he ends up back on their doorstep, still

1:04:17

negotiating with him, that's

1:04:20

the question. Does Tony want to support AEW to

1:04:22

the point where he'll step back? Well,

1:04:25

I believe that he would take less money.

1:04:27

I believe that in a

1:04:29

heartbeat. And I believe that

1:04:31

he would agree to

1:04:34

listening to network suggestions, because

1:04:36

you know how that goes.

1:04:39

A lot of people listen to, oh,

1:04:41

we listen to your suggestions. That

1:04:44

could drag on forever and end acrimoniously.

1:04:48

But if they said, no, you can't run

1:04:50

this company anymore, I think he'd tell them

1:04:52

to go piss off and he'd be on

1:04:54

fucking YouTube. And

1:04:58

that's where we're at. But

1:05:02

anyway, if someone offered him $2 billion, his father

1:05:04

would punch him out if he didn't take it.

1:05:08

Seriously, AEW is not worth anyone near that much.

1:05:10

If he got offered that much, he would be

1:05:13

a fool not to take that. Yeah, you know

1:05:15

what? At that point, Chad would say, okay, Tony,

1:05:17

now, Liz, we've had a lot of fun, but

1:05:19

I've raised you to be a businessman. This

1:05:22

is fucking ridiculous. Tony, I don't

1:05:24

know if we're ever going to find a deaf mute buyer again.

1:05:26

Just take the money. Shut

1:05:28

up. You're

1:05:30

taking that $2 billion, or I

1:05:33

swear to God, I'll live forever and never give you another

1:05:35

penny. But

1:05:40

please, folks, we're not doing this

1:05:42

to knock AEW. It's just ridiculous.

1:05:44

$2 billion. It's like valuing impact

1:05:47

at $250,000. It's just

1:05:49

way out of the

1:05:51

realm. No, I'm kidding. But

1:05:56

$2 billion, come on. that

1:06:00

mean that would mean that the WWE

1:06:02

was worth about

1:06:04

fucking $30 billion around the

1:06:06

world. Right. I, I,

1:06:09

I, I still think they would, if

1:06:11

they take $2 billion in cash, no

1:06:13

goddamn funny money, no credit,

1:06:16

no whatever, $2 billion in

1:06:18

cash, you could buy

1:06:20

TBS off of them down there. Fuck.

1:06:26

Anyway, you know,

1:06:28

the, the big problem, Brian, the

1:06:31

big problem with people believing all these

1:06:33

big numbers is because they're used to

1:06:35

paying all these inflated numbers for prices.

1:06:38

Do you realize, do you

1:06:40

realize that steak used to be nine cents

1:06:42

a pound? Do

1:06:44

you realize that? No, I never thought about

1:06:46

it. No, they used to be nine cents

1:06:49

a pound back in 1882 when

1:06:51

they just took a dull knife and cut it

1:06:53

off the cow's ass, drug it through some sawdust

1:06:55

to preserve it and slapped it down

1:06:57

on the butcher's counter where it sat there for

1:06:59

about a month or six weeks until you had

1:07:01

enough money to buy it. And

1:07:04

boy, that was good eating. But

1:07:07

things, everything is, has gotten more

1:07:09

expensive. Yeah, it certainly has. Everything

1:07:11

has gotten more expensive because that's just the

1:07:14

nature of the way that things happen in

1:07:16

the world. A lot of people complain about

1:07:18

that, but it's true. But there's only one

1:07:20

thing, Brian, that's going

1:07:22

down in price, down in cost,

1:07:25

and up in affordability instead of through

1:07:27

the roof in cost and down in

1:07:29

affordability. Do you have any idea what

1:07:31

that might be? I have no

1:07:34

idea where you're going in anyway. No, I'll

1:07:36

tell you, it's the cell phone

1:07:38

plans that meant mobile. The

1:07:41

premium, well, I can't even call it a

1:07:43

cell phone plan because that, that

1:07:45

makes it sound too insignificant.

1:07:48

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my kidneys are old and I need the

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we we. And. As we were

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coming back finished recording what we were

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recording. You. Tried to

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make some adjustments. your office

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it impaled yourself out. Apparently

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you have a medieval iron

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maiden. With. Pointy sharp

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spikes leaning up apparently next

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year desk over there last

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manner. Edu impaled yourself. You're

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bleeding. I had to wait. And to

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you. Clean. The wound.

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And. Dress the wound. An.

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Hour and and and fretted over the wound

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and we're back. And I just want to.

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People know that if you start. Trailing.

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Off or just talking. Nonsense.

1:13:02

Like the the the bright light that

1:13:04

you're hearing that is because of blood

1:13:06

loss because this could be you're dying

1:13:09

declaration. Now.

1:13:11

What were you gonna say? Another, you realize

1:13:14

that. I. Want to

1:13:16

tell everyone how much I love them? Thank.

1:13:19

You for being along this journey with a for

1:13:21

the last. Four. It's been a

1:13:23

long time. Shit. Maybe

1:13:26

it's time folks percent of the way to look

1:13:28

at it. Just hits over.

1:13:31

Do. They. Are

1:13:33

you are an overnighter? Thank you. Have one of

1:13:35

the concerns in the cards and letters. I presume.

1:13:37

they haven't read me and I just told of

1:13:39

about a thirty several. Do you think this is

1:13:41

a Tony Time graphic? Give me address to send

1:13:43

them so we could build of the mailing lists

1:13:45

for Christmas time. P. O

1:13:48

Box for Three Six Nine Six Three

1:13:50

Little Will Kentucky Four O Two Five

1:13:52

Three I'll make sure he gets all

1:13:54

your concern. Attention Get Well Brian! Yeah.

1:13:57

how's your core puzzles or that's what

1:14:00

They need to write, hey, Brian,

1:14:02

how's your corpuscles? Why is there

1:14:04

a paintbrush on my desk? You're not

1:14:06

there. You see

1:14:08

things. You're getting

1:14:11

a lightheaded. All

1:14:13

right. Anyway, um, we should

1:14:16

mention before you were going

1:14:18

to mention something, I should mention that we're a few

1:14:20

weeks behind on dark side of the ring and, and

1:14:22

we're going to catch up here, uh, today

1:14:26

on one of them and, and on the,

1:14:28

the drive-through, uh, next week we'll catch up

1:14:30

on the other one, right? And, and

1:14:33

we still got to talk about some other

1:14:35

things, but people won't quit doing and saying

1:14:37

stupid things in the immediate 24 hour news

1:14:40

cycle for us to go

1:14:42

back and delve into history. But what were you

1:14:44

going to say? I was going to say we

1:14:46

have obviously dark side episodes to catch up on.

1:14:48

And we are pretty behind. Maybe

1:14:51

next time, if they ever come back again, don't do it

1:14:53

during a WrestleMania time, it's just so hard to get caught

1:14:55

up with so much happening. Well,

1:14:57

it's a double-edged sword. Now,

1:14:59

Brian, it cuts both ways.

1:15:01

It swings both ways, Brian.

1:15:04

You may have heard this before about this sword

1:15:06

and it swings both ways. It's a gay blade

1:15:10

and it, it, the,

1:15:12

the increased viewership, the,

1:15:16

the rising tide lifts all boats is

1:15:18

what I'm trying to say. Sometimes the

1:15:20

WrestleMania furor, everybody just

1:15:22

wants to put all the wrestling shows out there

1:15:25

because they, you know,

1:15:27

normally there's more interest in wrestling and they

1:15:29

want to watch everything, but it's gotten to

1:15:31

the point where are we, are we oversaturated?

1:15:34

And we just can't keep up with it. If

1:15:36

we have normal lives and need to eat and

1:15:38

things. Well, I think there are times where

1:15:41

there's just a ton going on. And there were

1:15:43

times where something can get a

1:15:45

little more attention because there's not as much attention

1:15:47

going other places. Well

1:15:51

said. I, I,

1:15:54

I, I applaud you. Then

1:15:58

again, I am lightheaded and losing blood. What

1:16:00

do I know? Well,

1:16:02

speaking of lightheaded and losing blood, should we

1:16:05

go to Chris Colts dark side of the

1:16:07

ring? That seems like a segue if we're

1:16:09

ever going to get one. And

1:16:11

we, like I said, we apologize for being a couple

1:16:13

of weeks behind. This was the previous week, but this

1:16:17

one, I got a lot of

1:16:19

feedback on, on Twitter. I was a part

1:16:21

of it. They weren't just randomly

1:16:23

talking to me, but

1:16:25

a lot of people enjoyed this more than

1:16:29

more than the average bear dark side of the

1:16:31

ring because they didn't know this story.

1:16:33

They didn't know of Chris Colt. They didn't know a

1:16:36

lot of the people that were talking heads, which is

1:16:38

kind of the point of

1:16:40

when I said that, you know, Chris Colt may have

1:16:43

been the best wrestler nobody ever saw. You have to

1:16:45

listen to this program to have

1:16:47

heard many Chris Colt

1:16:49

stories, but it was nice.

1:16:51

Not only the ground

1:16:53

that hasn't been trodden

1:16:55

here, stampled, tram,

1:16:58

stampeded to death, trampled is what I'm

1:17:00

trying to say. With all

1:17:02

the A and E bios, the

1:17:05

WWE stuff where they're just, they're

1:17:08

repeating themselves in a lot of cases now.

1:17:10

This was brand new shit.

1:17:12

And you don't see princess Victoria or it's

1:17:14

good to see Billy Anderson. You

1:17:17

don't want to own a program. Tom Burke,

1:17:20

one of the great early wrestling

1:17:22

collectors and historians, the global wrestling

1:17:24

news service, a boy, he

1:17:26

ought to, he ought to give

1:17:29

tours of his collection, talk

1:17:32

about a fucking museum and, uh,

1:17:35

and family members of, of Colts, his

1:17:37

great nephew and his niece. So it

1:17:39

was nice to see

1:17:42

new talking heads and new,

1:17:44

except for me, I'm an old head. At

1:17:47

least that's what the kids tell me, but

1:17:50

they had to lead Brian. Don't you think with

1:17:52

the giant spiders in the cage, because that way,

1:17:54

if you'd never heard of Chris Colt, that was

1:17:56

kind of the hook, even though

1:17:58

it was chronologically an act. accurate to

1:18:01

lead with that, but that

1:18:03

was kind of the hook of the, uh, okay,

1:18:05

even when we don't know who this fucking guy

1:18:07

is, we got to hear more about this. Do

1:18:12

I agree with making that the hook of a piece? Well,

1:18:15

yeah, because it came early. It came early

1:18:17

on. I thought, I actually

1:18:19

thought the episode got better

1:18:21

as it got going. And

1:18:23

I thought, you know, I personally wouldn't have done

1:18:25

it that way. I'll just say that. Well,

1:18:27

they, that's what I'm saying. They had to, they

1:18:30

had to hook the non-informed viewer

1:18:34

on what, and a giant spider is climbing a cage

1:18:36

is probably, you know, Hey, listen, if you wanted to

1:18:38

hook the viewers, all you had to do is run

1:18:40

that promo they had later on in the thing where

1:18:42

he's like, I'll fight you and then I'll

1:18:45

fuck you. Yeah. Well,

1:18:48

no, he said, actually he said, I'll fight you. I'll run

1:18:50

you out of town and then I'll fuck you. Well,

1:18:53

how's he going to fuck the guy when he's already running

1:18:55

out of town? That's a long

1:18:57

distance relationship. I've got a car. But

1:19:03

it's not mine. Um,

1:19:05

and I shouldn't overlook Moondog Moretti was

1:19:07

a part of that also, but you

1:19:11

know, I'm not making

1:19:13

a secret of it. I had suggested

1:19:15

this ep or this story, Chris Cole,

1:19:17

this subject to Evan Husney

1:19:20

and Jason Ister a few years

1:19:22

ago. I said, boy, if you want to tell a

1:19:24

crazy story, Chris cold, but

1:19:28

at that point, the program wasn't established. They

1:19:30

didn't want to do that deep of an

1:19:32

album cut, but it kept coming back with

1:19:35

other people mentioning it. And then they said, well,

1:19:37

we can find these people that, you

1:19:39

know, that knew him and off they

1:19:42

went. And as

1:19:44

much of this episode was

1:19:47

non-wrestling oriented per se, it just about

1:19:49

a guy who was noted for being

1:19:51

a wrestler as it was about wrestling.

1:19:53

There we've talked about. There's

1:19:55

not a ton of footage of coal to

1:19:58

still available. There's plenty of pictures. But

1:20:01

some of the footage is still available, they couldn't show.

1:20:05

But it was, it was

1:20:07

just the story of this fucking guy

1:20:09

that was, you know... What

1:20:12

would, how would you term Chris? It

1:20:14

wasn't that he was crazy, it wasn't

1:20:16

that he was, he might've been

1:20:18

insane out of a clinical definition.

1:20:22

But he just got

1:20:25

a personality and kind of went

1:20:27

with, even though he was multiple

1:20:29

gimmicks and multiple characters, it was

1:20:31

always... Set it around

1:20:33

drugs, I think that answers it. Well,

1:20:35

yeah, drugs, but it was something about

1:20:37

him. He didn't just say, I'm gonna

1:20:39

become a fucking garbage man or a

1:20:42

plumber. It was some,

1:20:44

all of his gimmicks had some element of

1:20:47

one of his personalities in them. And

1:20:50

this is what, you can't blame him

1:20:52

here for not being chronological because it's

1:20:56

almost impossible. You would, you need a

1:20:58

pie chart and like

1:21:00

one of those graphics they put up

1:21:02

on the screen for the Bloodline dynasty to be

1:21:04

able to figure out his

1:21:07

lineage and how many different

1:21:09

wrestling names he used and gimmick

1:21:12

names. And remember at one point there was

1:21:14

a, what was

1:21:16

it, an early inside wrestling? Had

1:21:18

on the cover a picture of Chris

1:21:20

Colt and Ron Dupree as the California

1:21:22

Hells Angels and Don Fargo and it

1:21:25

was Kenny Mack, the guy that got shot

1:21:28

as the chain gang. And

1:21:30

will the real Hells Angels please stand

1:21:33

up? And then later

1:21:35

on Chris Colt becomes Don Fargo's partner and

1:21:37

they become the chain

1:21:39

gang. So it

1:21:42

was hard to be chronological with this thing to

1:21:45

make anybody understand what the fuck was going on.

1:21:47

I think they mostly did a good job with

1:21:49

this one, to be honest. With

1:21:53

his early life, especially because a

1:21:55

lot of people didn't know anything

1:21:57

about his – including

1:22:00

me, his childhood. Uh,

1:22:03

he was a wrestling fan when he was a

1:22:05

kid, but his parents were apparently

1:22:07

violent alcoholics. And you

1:22:11

know, he wants to be a wrestler. He gets

1:22:13

on the school wrestling team and bleaches his hair

1:22:15

blonde in like 1962 or whatever. So

1:22:19

that was frowned upon in that environment. And

1:22:23

I knew that he ended up breaking

1:22:25

into business in Massachusetts for Tony Santos,

1:22:27

but I didn't know that he went

1:22:29

to Chicago first and worked

1:22:31

as a male hustler to pay his

1:22:35

wrestling school tuition there. Um,

1:22:40

but Tom Burke had been one

1:22:42

of his clients. House. Cause

1:22:44

no, come on. Come

1:22:48

on. Now Tom, he's an older man

1:22:50

now. And he might, he

1:22:53

might be joking. I'm

1:22:56

joking. I'm joking. Tom's an older fellow

1:22:58

and he might be offended by that.

1:23:01

But no, Tom again, was

1:23:03

one of the early, uh, for

1:23:07

lack of a better term newsletter people,

1:23:09

he would send out results, his global

1:23:11

wrestling news service. And he had pen pals

1:23:13

that sent programs and wrestling

1:23:16

results from all over the place. And

1:23:18

he had been pen pals with

1:23:21

Chuck Harris who became Chris Colt

1:23:24

as a teenager. And he kept saying, I'm gonna, I'm

1:23:26

going to get into business. And

1:23:28

then Tom being from Boston, you

1:23:31

know, sees there, he, he shows up

1:23:34

and he's a wrestler and that's

1:23:36

where he met and got involved

1:23:39

with Ron Dupree who was kind

1:23:42

of what was the, what was the name? Ron

1:23:44

Dupree was using the golden boy, the golden boy,

1:23:46

but no, was there, was there another actual name

1:23:48

he used? So they changed

1:23:50

names quite a bit. Um,

1:23:54

but anyways, so he was going to do free. I think

1:23:56

he's also used. Well, yeah, but I

1:23:58

mean, well, he, but. Magnificent Somebody

1:24:01

or rather know that was

1:24:03

critical critical levels for his

1:24:05

magnificent Chevy Age. That's right,

1:24:07

the Magnificent Chevy. A. Bid.

1:24:10

Tony Santos one notch above

1:24:12

Jack Pfeffer in the gimmick

1:24:14

named category. With. I was as booker.

1:24:18

A. Well, as as a matter of fact, that's right, was

1:24:20

in it. That was his Booker. He I was his Booker

1:24:22

at the time. Anyway,

1:24:25

So. From then on, Rhonda Pre and

1:24:28

Chris Cold were. A couple and

1:24:30

they they traveled. They got. Some

1:24:33

early success in. Arizona.

1:24:36

They but they burned the flag on

1:24:38

Tv. Out there is a story goes,

1:24:40

guts promotion kicked off Tv but that's

1:24:42

where that magazine cover. Came.

1:24:45

From the Over, the Chris cold taken a

1:24:47

hacksaw to Cowboy Barbell as his head. It.

1:24:50

Was the Arizona territory a barbell as

1:24:52

had been a big star. Invade.

1:24:55

All over the Mid West and. Made.

1:24:58

A vintage Chicago Detroit in

1:25:00

Indianapolis but. He.

1:25:02

Had some kind of financial interest or

1:25:04

they gave him Samson or he kept

1:25:06

go and Arizona. And.

1:25:08

It stood out because here was this fucking

1:25:10

huge name and a small territory. But.

1:25:13

That's that famous magazine cover of

1:25:15

him. Take it. I had sought

1:25:17

a barbell as his rog ahead.

1:25:20

Nineteen. Seventy two at the drugstore you'd

1:25:22

walk in and see that gonna shit on

1:25:24

of on the magazine stand for that was

1:25:26

just so Barbells could explain where know with.

1:25:30

A. Y yes, because he sawed off the better part

1:25:32

of the front of his. And you

1:25:34

know they told me. When

1:25:36

I first gotten a business. I

1:25:39

guess it'd be was a fresh thing because

1:25:41

the last run the barbell us had was

1:25:43

in Porto Rico right? Printed.

1:25:45

He was pretty much retired as a as a wrestler.

1:25:48

Very. Early eighties. Point.

1:25:50

Is. Apparently from all those

1:25:52

years of a beat a baby face get

1:25:55

and juice all the time. and

1:25:57

i saw it l a set up

1:25:59

really bad gig head, right? Not

1:26:02

an Abdulla the Butcher style, but a bad

1:26:04

gig head. And they said he had the,

1:26:07

the derma-bration or whatever it is where

1:26:10

they would smooth your head off and

1:26:12

then went to Puerto Rico, the

1:26:15

bloodiest territory in fucking wrestling. Hey,

1:26:18

anyway, can I ask you a quick question? Cause

1:26:20

I actually heard a, you're from Matt Farmer wrestling

1:26:22

historian the other day. He was asking a question.

1:26:24

I didn't know the answer. You mentioned

1:26:27

way back in a segment we did about

1:26:29

the early days of tape trading that

1:26:31

you were getting stuff out of Puerto Rico. What

1:26:35

were you getting and when and who had Puerto

1:26:37

Rico stuff other than the commercial tapes? Um,

1:26:42

I'm trying to remember. I didn't

1:26:44

get like just regular full television,

1:26:46

but I would get matches. And

1:26:50

you know what? It may have been somebody that

1:26:52

Norman Dooley was trading with because a lot of

1:26:54

times, you know, a lot of the stuff that

1:26:56

I got was from him. There

1:26:58

was also a guy in

1:27:01

Michigan named Marty Slobin that

1:27:04

had compilation tapes. You'd have

1:27:06

the Georgia TBS show, then

1:27:09

a couple of mid-south matches, then

1:27:11

a couple of the, uh,

1:27:13

sheik's Detroit things and submit Atlantic

1:27:15

and it, I mean, who knows?

1:27:18

It was fourth generation then, but

1:27:21

a lot of that, you know, early stuff,

1:27:23

uh, you would get tapes that weren't

1:27:25

necessarily from the person who recorded it. So

1:27:28

I do not actually know now that I think

1:27:30

about it. And yeah, that

1:27:33

would have been the very end of the cowboy Bob Ellis's

1:27:35

career in more ways than

1:27:37

one. Uh, but anyway,

1:27:39

I enjoyed in this

1:27:41

episode, finally knowing, cause remember we've

1:27:43

talked about this, what happened? The

1:27:46

team of Chris Colton, Mike Boyette. And

1:27:49

by the time that they

1:27:51

even got to this end of the territory,

1:27:53

it was Chris Colton, Bill Dundee and Mike

1:27:55

Boyette made Memphis matches, but never even made

1:27:58

live appearances up at the end. this part

1:28:00

of the territory and what was

1:28:02

going on there. And they told the story that they

1:28:04

got in a fucking fight that they

1:28:07

were riding back from Johnson city, which makes

1:28:09

sense because that was at a point in

1:28:11

time where, you know,

1:28:13

Fuller and, uh, and,

1:28:15

uh, the Memphis end and Nick were trading

1:28:17

talent. And apparently,

1:28:21

you know, Chris Colt freaks out in

1:28:23

the back seat and starts

1:28:26

punching Bill Anderson, who's

1:28:28

driving his brother, Bill Colt, and

1:28:30

punching fucking Mike

1:28:32

Boyette and pulling his hair

1:28:34

in the front seat. And

1:28:37

boy, it's just pull a fucking car

1:28:39

over. And remember

1:28:41

we've had fun with

1:28:43

Mike Boyette and talking about the apocalypse

1:28:45

soldier of fortune gimmick, and that I

1:28:48

managed him in Tennessee when

1:28:50

I was first starting and everything, and he, his

1:28:53

brain was kind of fried

1:28:56

at that point. But he

1:28:58

was a Vietnam veteran and he was

1:29:00

a high level fucking judo guy. And

1:29:02

plus he was, you know, just not

1:29:04

somebody would fuck with. So

1:29:07

when they pulled over and

1:29:10

Boyette front face lock Chris Colt on

1:29:12

the side of the road and fucking

1:29:14

put him out. Like

1:29:16

Hulk Hogan put out Richard Belzer, imagine that, but on

1:29:18

the side of the road in East Tennessee at two

1:29:20

o'clock in the morning, and

1:29:22

then gets back in a car and tells Bill

1:29:24

to back up and then tells him run over

1:29:26

him, then fucking hits the

1:29:29

goddamn puts his foot on the accelerator and

1:29:31

he's got the steering wheel and Bill Billy

1:29:33

Anderson's going out of his mind. Ah,

1:29:35

he swerves and they fucking pass him.

1:29:37

Right? He deserved to die. I can

1:29:39

hear Mike Boyette saying that sort

1:29:42

of more like a stoner, but gruff. And

1:29:46

then the next day, Billy

1:29:49

goes back to the apartment that there's Chris

1:29:51

Colt somehow they left him on the side

1:29:54

of the road. He's somehow they're waiting on

1:29:56

him. And he said,

1:29:58

we'll get rid of Boyette. And

1:30:02

that was the fucking story

1:30:04

and how Bill Dundee inherited

1:30:06

that fucking combination. I

1:30:09

guess he was, Jerry Jarrett wanted to push Dundee

1:30:11

at that point. I guess he saw an opening

1:30:13

because the only person that prospered out of that

1:30:16

thing was Dundee. It kept him going for a

1:30:18

few more months till they switched him babyface. My

1:30:22

boy had always looked weird and crazy,

1:30:25

but geez, that story, he sounded like

1:30:27

a maniac. This

1:30:30

was 1975. By the

1:30:32

time I knew him, he was calmer. Remember

1:30:35

he had a thing in the UWF, a

1:30:37

losing streak. He

1:30:40

was on TV every week, like 86, 87, and he had wild hair. He

1:30:44

was nuts. Yeah. Well, because

1:30:46

the last time that I ever saw him, I

1:30:48

think I've told his story. It was the day

1:30:52

that we were in San Antonio on

1:30:54

Easter Sunday at the hemisphere for WCW.

1:30:56

It was 1990. A

1:30:58

fucking idiot they hired to book

1:31:00

the arenas had us there. A 17,000-seat building, we had 600 people there,

1:31:02

I think. But

1:31:07

Mike was living in

1:31:10

San Antonio and came up to

1:31:12

the back door to visit some of the guys because you

1:31:14

know everybody from Tennessee knew him. But

1:31:18

he was covered in mud. It

1:31:21

was like he had a – I can't

1:31:23

remember what he was doing. But no,

1:31:27

from his head to his toe,

1:31:29

he was covered in mud. He

1:31:31

was doing some kind of work

1:31:33

digging or I don't know what

1:31:35

the fuck. And again, it was Mike

1:31:37

Boyette. He

1:31:41

was very friendly with the guys that he

1:31:43

knew, but he looked like something out of

1:31:45

a goddamn horror movie. And

1:31:48

that's the last time I ever saw him. But

1:31:51

no, he – again, it was

1:31:53

either he – he was in

1:31:55

Vietnam, but he was also in Judo

1:31:57

before he got into service or he got into it.

1:32:00

judo because he was in the service, but he

1:32:02

was pretty good. That's why he came up with

1:32:04

the apocalypse gimmick. It was

1:32:06

supposed to be a judo martial arts fucking

1:32:09

soldier of fortune thing, but then

1:32:12

whatever substances he was on, he started

1:32:14

painting himself up like the panda bears

1:32:16

and all these colors. And they

1:32:19

made him get rid of the combat boots

1:32:21

because he was kicking guys' fucking heads in.

1:32:25

I walked in at time. He's

1:32:28

taping his ankles. He's barefoot. I said, what? He

1:32:30

said, they made me get rid of

1:32:32

my boots. They said they were made out of potatoes. And,

1:32:37

and you know, anyway, it just

1:32:39

didn't, he was not all

1:32:41

there, but anyway, he was the, uh, he

1:32:45

was the casualty in that, uh, particular

1:32:48

cause at least I guess Nick thought, well,

1:32:50

I'm keeping the two instead of the one

1:32:52

or whatever. And then finally,

1:32:54

cause that was Billy Anderson's first run in

1:32:56

the business. He was just 18 and

1:32:59

he was big around as a straw. So

1:33:02

they were going to go to Portland or

1:33:04

Seattle or somewhere and in the airport.

1:33:07

And Billy just saw Chris at the bar and

1:33:09

before he walked in and say, you know, fuck

1:33:11

it, and he left, went home. And,

1:33:15

but he probably would

1:33:18

not have goddamn survived. That

1:33:20

was the best movie ever made. Yeah.

1:33:22

Yeah. He actually, you know, he was

1:33:24

not only a wrestler later on, but

1:33:27

then referee ring announcer for the WWF

1:33:29

for many years, a trainer trainer. Yeah.

1:33:32

Yeah. I mean, so he had

1:33:34

a lot better career and Chris did was he got away

1:33:36

from him. Anyway.

1:33:40

Um, and then, you know, they

1:33:42

jumped around quite a bit as we said,

1:33:44

because how can you keep

1:33:47

this straight? But the final few

1:33:49

years of Chris's wrestling

1:33:51

career, when Ron Dupree died, which

1:33:54

was 1975, he had had a

1:33:56

heart attack. He had

1:33:58

become a ring. answer because he'd

1:34:00

had a heart attack and had to quit wrestling before.

1:34:02

That's why Chris took on, you know,

1:34:05

so many other partners, but then

1:34:07

for Dean Silverstone, Dean Silverstone, Dean

1:34:09

Silverstone. Yeah. Up in the Northwest.

1:34:13

Um, but finally he

1:34:15

had another heart attack and died in the,

1:34:17

in the ambulance. So then Chris

1:34:19

is out on his own and, and getting

1:34:22

booked from place to place. And that's, they

1:34:25

showed the footage cause it's out there on

1:34:28

YouTube, just a clip. But the

1:34:30

Chris Colt experience in 1976, he

1:34:35

invented the rock and wrestling code

1:34:37

connection in front

1:34:39

of absolutely nobody in a

1:34:41

Canadian indie promotion. Uh,

1:34:44

it was superstars of wrestling for George.

1:34:48

That's right. Cry baby. And that's, that's

1:34:51

why the events had to pay him something

1:34:53

for superstars of wrestling because he had trademarked

1:34:55

it. Didn't he? That's right. And

1:34:57

then I think Vince lost the trademark. Yeah.

1:35:00

But then he came up

1:35:02

with so many others, but Colt

1:35:05

was using welcome to my nightmare

1:35:08

by Alice Cooper as his inference music.

1:35:10

And as he had the snake cause,

1:35:13

and also that made sense because the

1:35:16

chic was huge

1:35:18

in Michigan and Ontario and George

1:35:20

Cannon was running Ontario

1:35:23

in opposition at that point in

1:35:26

time and here he's got his crazy wrestler

1:35:28

with a snake, but it, it

1:35:30

added to Chris's aura, but they show

1:35:33

the TV clip in the studio. There's

1:35:35

22 people there. And you know,

1:35:38

it just, there was nobody

1:35:40

there to see it. And then he went to

1:35:42

England and they kicked him off television. And

1:35:45

that was a shoot. I can't remember what for.

1:35:49

And then, you know, he would be some

1:35:51

places that I think he was probably in

1:35:53

Portland more than any

1:35:55

place else between what 79 and 82 or three. And

1:36:00

he wasn't even there that much. It's

1:36:02

just, he was there a little bit

1:36:05

longer than elsewhere and it was on tape. Yeah.

1:36:08

And you know, they had

1:36:10

already told the story of the program, but

1:36:12

his chance meeting with Janice Joplin in San

1:36:14

Francisco, just on the street, Hey, I'll have

1:36:16

a drink with you. Um,

1:36:19

and he did the same thing, but just somehow

1:36:22

he aligned himself with Joe Cocker long enough to

1:36:24

be a roadie and get on, you know, getting

1:36:27

pictures and get on the tour with him for

1:36:29

a while. So he was doing shit like that.

1:36:32

And by

1:36:34

the Southeastern continental

1:36:37

Chris Von Colt was what was that?

1:36:41

86, seven, the dying,

1:36:43

the dying days of

1:36:45

that territory too. But he's a Nazi

1:36:47

suddenly Chris Von Colt, because why wouldn't

1:36:49

he be? What would be

1:36:52

the most offensive thing you could just do? And

1:36:55

they mentioned, you know, a lot of the,

1:36:58

a lot of the insight came from, as we

1:37:01

said, his, his niece and

1:37:04

his grand nephew, because they

1:37:06

knew some of the elements of

1:37:08

what he was doing when he was away from

1:37:10

the wrestling business. And they say we went from

1:37:12

cocaine to math to being addicted to meth. And

1:37:14

he was, he was busting

1:37:17

crack houses as a fake cop. He'd

1:37:19

go in, try to make a buy,

1:37:21

then flash a fucking fake badge and

1:37:23

take all their shit, what

1:37:26

kind of balls does that take? Or

1:37:30

lack of possibly

1:37:32

critical thinking or both. I don't

1:37:34

know. And

1:37:37

then he did the gay porn stuff. Um,

1:37:41

they had the director of,

1:37:45

Brian, I was conflicted on this guy because

1:37:47

he gives his resume. He wrote 20 books.

1:37:51

He's a college professor. He's

1:37:53

taught literature. He sounded very

1:37:55

intelligent. And Then they show

1:37:57

him a Chris Colt with a headlock on him. He's wearing

1:37:59

the gimp. Mascot is spoken video that

1:38:01

he directed. I.

1:38:03

Was conflicted on whether take this

1:38:05

gap completely seriously. As a scholar,

1:38:07

not. What? You think every.

1:38:10

Issue. You know, relatively together.

1:38:13

Obviously. He was making these films

1:38:15

back in the eighties as a long time

1:38:17

goes on was forty years ago. And.

1:38:22

Said. Some interesting things: Hulk Hogan: a

1:38:24

gay icon. Yeah. Know how

1:38:26

Oh Kogan was a God to the gay

1:38:29

community. I wrote that down. That was that

1:38:31

he wanted to do wrestling videos because there

1:38:33

was a. Heavy.

1:38:36

A gay crossover and wrestling fandom

1:38:38

I get. maybe that signal got

1:38:40

wouldn't Prose and Aj styles at

1:38:42

one that. What? He said was

1:38:45

as and. Wrestling. Is

1:38:47

soft core porn for gay people. Yes,

1:38:51

That's what he said. Was. Women's

1:38:53

wrestling them. Well,

1:38:56

apparently not very interesting to them

1:38:58

either. But. Nevertheless,

1:39:00

so this guy. A

1:39:04

directed these videos and and

1:39:06

know. The. You know, talked

1:39:08

about why Chris had a certain level

1:39:10

of v have appealed to the. The.

1:39:12

Clientele and et cetera. And.

1:39:15

As were and Chris would do in the

1:39:17

wrestling promos. I'll fight, you are running out

1:39:19

of town and and I'll fuck do. And.

1:39:22

It's etc, etc. but. Then.

1:39:25

They all couldn't even. They.

1:39:27

Couldn't even agree on

1:39:30

exactly. How he died because

1:39:32

we talked about that was the mystery. Nobody saw

1:39:34

him, Nobody heard of him in the Navy, you

1:39:36

know? Is. Nice City was

1:39:38

founded. A back alley in Seattle. Tom

1:39:41

Burke said he heard they found him in a

1:39:43

chair with a needle in his arm and the

1:39:45

director said he died of Aids in a flop

1:39:47

house in Seattle which we believe. Is.

1:39:50

The story most often. Repeated.

1:39:55

and i guess the nice good rhythm flop house

1:39:57

could be located in a back alley so the

1:39:59

nice could be on target with that also, but,

1:40:02

and he was only like 49 years old. So,

1:40:05

a, a,

1:40:07

a incredibly gifted guy when it

1:40:09

came to understanding

1:40:12

the wrestling business, both how to

1:40:14

get heat as a heel and

1:40:16

how, you know, he, he loved taking the bumps

1:40:18

and he took the bumps, but the working and

1:40:21

the, the physical aspect of it,

1:40:23

he got that and his shit looked great

1:40:26

when he wasn't fucked up and he had, you know,

1:40:29

a ring that wasn't cement to work with sometimes

1:40:31

even when he did that elbow

1:40:34

drop, he hits in that clip from George

1:40:36

Cannon's promotion. Look at the ring

1:40:38

when he hits it. It doesn't move. He

1:40:40

looks like he drops it on a frying pan. Um,

1:40:44

Eddie, but that's what he, you

1:40:47

know, Johnny Valiant, when he was

1:40:49

working the early eighties, uh, Canadian

1:40:52

independence for, I think it was the

1:40:54

bear man, Dave McKigney, he's, he

1:40:56

would, they would book him against Chris Colt and Colt

1:40:58

would say, give me all the bumps you can tie.

1:41:00

I love to take bumps. Give me all the bumps

1:41:02

you want to give me. And

1:41:05

I get there was a sense it was perfect as Johnny Valiant didn't

1:41:07

really want to take a lot of bumps, but,

1:41:10

uh, you know, he

1:41:12

was talented at that aspect, but

1:41:15

he couldn't apply those talents for

1:41:17

long or get, have

1:41:20

any reliability placed in him by

1:41:22

people in power in any major

1:41:24

territory, because you never knew what.

1:41:27

What else was going to happen with

1:41:29

Chris cold and the, the

1:41:31

giant spiders that might climb

1:41:33

the cage and try to get

1:41:36

him. I never also knew until

1:41:38

Billy Anderson did that. They got

1:41:40

out and started beating the shit

1:41:42

out of the entire crowd and they almost killed

1:41:44

him and Billy Anderson had to fucking save him

1:41:47

with a chair. Um,

1:41:49

you know, we always talk about lost footage and things that we

1:41:52

wish we could see on video, there's nothing really of note from

1:41:54

Arizona. No,

1:41:57

no, I had got it. gotten

1:42:02

three or four two inch reels

1:42:04

of video tape.

1:42:07

So it had to be mid seventies or

1:42:09

earlier from the Arizona

1:42:11

territory. Uh, a

1:42:13

long time ago from a guy that said, Hey, they were

1:42:15

in the garage and you might like

1:42:18

them. And I'd never

1:42:20

finally through the dark side folks because

1:42:22

they were researching this episode, we

1:42:25

got them run off and it was some,

1:42:27

Oh God damn, what was the guy's name?

1:42:29

The Ernie Muhammad promoter,

1:42:31

Ernie Muhammad, it was his TV show

1:42:33

and Bob Ellis was on one of

1:42:35

the interviews, but otherwise it was like

1:42:38

Dale Pierce and a

1:42:40

few, uh, you know, few various

1:42:42

local people doing

1:42:44

their thing in Arizona and in

1:42:46

the mid seventies and nothing of

1:42:48

any real note. Unfortunately.

1:42:53

All right. But that

1:42:55

was the Chris Colt experience on dark side

1:42:57

of the ring. On the

1:42:59

gym, cornet experience on the gym, cornet experience.

1:43:01

See everybody thinks I ripped off Hendrix. I

1:43:03

really ripped off Chris Colt. So real quick

1:43:05

on the topic of dark side, obviously we'll

1:43:08

get caught up with Chris Adams. We'll probably

1:43:10

do that on the drive through the Harley

1:43:13

race one. We also missed. Oh

1:43:15

golly. And this week is, is

1:43:17

Sherry Martel. And I'm, I'm all

1:43:19

over that. So we

1:43:22

got a lot of catching up to do there, Lucy,

1:43:26

but it's Tuesday nights at 10 PM

1:43:28

Eastern on vice TV. Get it while

1:43:30

it's hot. Well,

1:43:32

let's go from that story of

1:43:35

a troubled individuals and let's snap

1:43:37

right into an episode of smack

1:43:39

down here. Brian, would

1:43:41

you like to do that? I think

1:43:43

so. This should be a rather snappy review. This

1:43:45

is usually now only one or two things happening

1:43:48

at most on the show. Now that we're in

1:43:50

kind of off season, I guess. Yes. Apparently

1:43:52

the off season is until they decide

1:43:54

to start selling us WrestleMania next year

1:43:56

again. It's, it's slowing down, but not

1:43:59

the. Not the gates, not the

1:44:02

business, just the show but

1:44:04

they smacked down April 19th,

1:44:06

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 14,994 were announced. Brian,

1:44:08

it looked kind of like

1:44:11

they were pretty close. Another

1:44:18

building full. I don't

1:44:21

know what the PPG

1:44:24

paints arena holds these days.

1:44:26

It's not the old civic auditorium

1:44:28

anymore. The igloo.

1:44:34

Let me just jump in real quick. If

1:44:37

you hear any modulation issues or anything, we're

1:44:39

having some brief audio issues we're working on,

1:44:41

but we're aware of them and we're working

1:44:43

on them. Yeah, we're aware of them and

1:44:45

I'm fucking grabbing my crotch right

1:44:47

now. Hey. You're

1:44:51

accusing me of modulating and

1:44:53

I'm not. I've not now nor have

1:44:55

I ever been a member of the

1:44:57

modulation party. But

1:45:00

anyway, that's the problem is that

1:45:03

we got, I think we got spoiled

1:45:06

there for a while as mama cornet

1:45:08

used to say, Brian, with the rocks

1:45:10

on every show and Romans on all

1:45:12

these shows, here's Cody and here's goddamn

1:45:14

Logan Paul and here's all the stars

1:45:16

are coming out. And

1:45:19

now we've gone back to somewhat reality, but

1:45:21

like I said, the people are still there.

1:45:23

They're still with it. And

1:45:28

the big match here was to determine

1:45:31

who gets to face Cody at

1:45:33

backlash, which happens

1:45:35

from Toulon, France in

1:45:38

a couple of weeks now, I guess. Have

1:45:40

we ever determined what time of fucking day?

1:45:42

I believe it's

1:45:44

at Ooh la la. Ooh

1:45:47

la la. I remember. PM. PM.

1:45:49

I believe. But that's in the States.

1:45:51

That's a.m. Or

1:45:54

is it? Well, I don't know when it's airing, but

1:45:56

it's airing. And how did

1:45:58

they determine whether they're ahead of. us in

1:46:00

time or behind us. If it's 12

1:46:02

hours, it could go either way. What

1:46:05

is it? Is it Fast Lane? WWE,

1:46:07

uh, Backlash. Yes. There's

1:46:09

no lane. Just Backlash. Saturday. 12

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30 PM Eastern time. Good Lord.

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12 30 PM Eastern time. All

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right. Anyway, so they had

1:46:18

LA night and AJ Styles have this

1:46:21

match to determine who's going to face

1:46:23

Cody for the title. And you know,

1:46:26

sad to say they couldn't surprise us because

1:46:28

we knew what was going to happen. You

1:46:30

can't have LA night wrestle the most popular

1:46:32

guy in the company because he's also so

1:46:34

popular and it would hurt the

1:46:37

goddamn perception of one or both individuals

1:46:40

in the match. So instead we get

1:46:43

AJ Styles, which wouldn't be bad except

1:46:45

we just saw the goddamn thing at

1:46:47

the pay-per-view in LA, LA night one

1:46:49

then. But now on

1:46:51

this episode with

1:46:53

the not

1:46:56

only a simple finish called, but

1:46:58

then that being botched

1:47:01

up, uh, AJ

1:47:04

beats him in 12 minutes total with

1:47:06

the figure in the commercial break-in. And

1:47:10