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Can you hear it? It feels like you're from
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it. It sounds like Team Spirit the energy
0:18
so exciting. I'm not real. Touchdown.
0:22
They try to drown me out. But so
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can you hear it? They can near
0:28
the end of touch though. They
0:30
try to trick you out.
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Can you hear me?
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Here's Generals. I'm Derik Dobie. We are
0:46
channeling Derikobie. What is it that
0:48
we do? All sought and what? Hey.
0:50
Here to people. It
0:56
is
0:56
week eleven in the NFL season
0:58
and it's getting late early for some
1:00
teams. It's getting wintertime.
1:03
One of all teams is the
1:05
green Bay Packers who
1:08
hosted the Titans last night
1:10
on Thursday night football and
1:13
could not get the job done
1:15
due to the strength and the power
1:17
of King Henry. The titans
1:19
running back had himself a day, didn't
1:21
just run all over him, Proof for touchdown
1:24
to Jalen. We'll get to the
1:26
packers, but let's start with the Titans. I
1:28
think Derek Henry is the unique
1:32
running back now in the NFL because
1:34
we've seen him run with power,
1:37
run with speed, and run for two thousand yards.
1:40
but now they throwing screens to him. They
1:42
watched this. They weren't doing that before. And
1:44
now they're throwing touched on passes,
1:47
which he wasn't doing before four.
1:49
And I wanna also applaud
1:52
the maturation of Ryan
1:54
Tanner Hill. Mhmm. I'll talk about this
1:56
so very often. Of course,
1:58
when you grow up and you
1:59
dream about playing in the NFL,
2:02
you say, I wanna be an MVP. I
2:04
wanna be an all pro. wanna be
2:07
an all time great. But one of
2:09
the greatest compliments somebody could ever pay
2:11
you is that you're a seasoned veteran.
2:13
Yes. And when what ends up
2:15
have and it is, you get to get in
2:17
the car after games and look
2:19
at your family and friends, be like, y'all just
2:21
see me all play here at Rogers? did
2:24
y'all just see that tonight? And when
2:26
Aaron Rogers is doing his interviews talking
2:28
about losing Davonte
2:30
Adams or Scanlon,
2:33
remind him that I lost a j Brown.
2:36
Good point. Remind him of that.
2:38
And so I love the
2:40
fact that that that VRABLE
2:42
in an error spread
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them out. Five wire receivers --
2:47
Yep. -- and nobody is Exactly.
2:50
They're playing smash mouth all school
2:53
football. We're gonna run the ball.
2:55
We're gonna opportune pass.
2:58
We're gonna try to keep our turnovers down.
3:00
We'll try to keep our penalties down. and
3:02
forced the other team to play against
3:04
him. He is a carrier. Drag you to the mud. They
3:06
drag you to the mud, and they almost got the Chiefs
3:08
doing the same thing, although the Chiefs won that name.
3:10
But they can win any game anytime
3:12
that changes in the playoffs. But, jailing, as
3:14
much as this was about the titans playing well, it was
3:16
also about the ineptitude of the packers.
3:18
had two opportunities on fourth down to get first
3:20
downs, and frankly, it wasn't
3:22
close. They didn't have to bring up the chains. So let's
3:24
talk misthrows by Aaron Rogers. believe
3:26
he missed one to Jones. He
3:28
missed one to Sammy
3:31
Watkins. That was a big one.
3:33
He missed one to Lazard. that was
3:35
a big one. And when we talk about the
3:37
Titan's identity, it starts
3:39
with not allowing a team to run
3:41
the football. And I'm glad you brought up
3:43
Patrick Mahomes. Because the Kansas
3:45
City Chiefs don't run the football
3:47
very well. They're not trying to. No.
3:50
That's the best thing that the Green Bay packers
3:52
do. even with Aaron
3:54
Rogers. And so when you stop the
3:56
run like you did against Patrick
3:58
Mahomes, now it's can Aaron
4:00
Rogers beat us? Patrick Mahomes
4:03
picked them apart and won the game. And
4:05
Rogers wasn't able to do so, but I have to
4:07
say something very selfishly. Okay.
4:09
I put my chips all in the middle of the table
4:11
in my big fantasy league. I'm in
4:13
first place. It was on
4:15
waivers. I I bet all
4:17
of my wafer money because I don't
4:19
gamble that part of it well. So
4:21
I saved all of it. I'm like, I'm about
4:23
to get all of it and put it on
4:25
Christian Watch I need him on my
4:27
team. I just love when you're not got him on my
4:29
fantasy league. You don't mean more
4:31
teams, more people, you need more money.
4:33
Yes. That's your big fantasy. And
4:35
do we all baton? It
4:37
is -- Really? -- ceiling. There's
4:39
something happening in
4:41
the NFC North.
4:43
take
4:45
a look
4:45
at the standings. I'd
4:48
say the lines are not last place
4:50
anymore. Oh, they got a punchier's
4:52
chance, mister Rome. mister
4:54
Rose? Yes, we do. And
4:56
I remember Aaron Rogers, and
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and I need you to to remind
5:00
me because There's some there's some cultural
5:03
differences when I first heard
5:05
about this. Uh-huh. So let's rewind the tape.
5:07
Would it air rogers do this off season?
5:09
You always ask me, I've told a million
5:11
times. Ayahuasca. Ayahuasca. Ayahuasca.
5:13
Ayahuasca. And you need to go to
5:15
Peru or out of the South America.
5:17
This is illegal in the United an estate -- Yes. --
5:19
and you say you need somebody to -- -- to -- --
5:21
to guide you through the experience. Right. So
5:23
those are the words. -- Shannon. Yeah.
5:26
Those are the two words that I'm at Ayahuasca
5:28
and shaman. Those are the two words
5:30
that are cultural. But Aaron Rogers
5:33
did this. Right? And he said,
5:35
it was making what kind of the teammate. A better
5:37
lover and a better teammate. Okay.
5:39
Okay. So that's up to the test right now. Yeah. So
5:41
we gonna need to see that for the rest of the
5:43
season. Well, there's if there's not too much eleven
5:46
season. Sometimes you're not gonna climb to the top of the
5:48
NFC North, but the lines still can.
5:50
However, the lines will not be in Detroit
5:52
this weekend. The Buffalo
5:54
Bills Will. Thunder Snow
5:56
is going to be in Buffalo, so they will
5:58
be hosting the Bills in your
6:00
home city of the Detroit, I
6:02
think this is actually good for the bills. because I
6:04
feel like a Blizzard game, anything
6:06
can happen, the better team might not win
6:08
in Detroit under neutral
6:10
stage with better conditions,
6:12
I think this is great for the bills
6:14
and my bills mafia. The Butcher come The
6:17
Griselda family. The Butcher come
6:19
Shot the Westside gun. Can't
6:21
wait. Can't wait the machine. I have to
6:23
say this. I'm conflicted.
6:26
You are like Benny's documentary. Here's
6:29
why. Why? Because the Buffalo
6:31
Bills have trademarked
6:34
playing outside it owning
6:36
the elements. Now I saw
6:38
the elements. The
6:40
elements are extreme now. Yep. As
6:42
it relates to travel and expecting
6:45
five feet of snow logistics. Correct.
6:48
But we plan a
6:50
dome. So In
6:52
Michigan, it gets cold, but we decided
6:54
we're gonna have a dome and not take advantage
6:56
of the wintertime weather as
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it relates to our opponents. So I'm conflicted
7:01
because I wanna ask you a question,
7:04
should Buffalo want
7:06
to still play in their
7:08
home arena? It's
7:10
See, I love where your head is at,
7:13
but I have to bring, like, facts and
7:15
rationality into this. Yes, sir. The other team
7:17
could not travel. gosh. The snow
7:19
is going to hot early. So it's not, like,
7:21
early. maybe late in that snow.
7:23
Okay. It said the snow is gonna hit that Thursday,
7:25
Friday, Saturday, like like
7:27
mando. the other team would not be able to
7:29
travel there, which is why it just makes more sense to
7:31
make the decision now to play in a neutral field.
7:33
But I'm gonna say what I said to the beginning again. this
7:35
helps the bills. I will be
7:37
gambling on the bills because
7:39
in a Blizzard, anything can happen and the run
7:41
game that the Browns have You never
7:43
know. We saw, like, it's the pages last year with the girls
7:45
member. Correct. In that game, that night game. Correct.
7:47
So I feel, like, in Detroit with a
7:49
a neutral situation with no elements
7:51
this is gonna be great for the bills bills win. The
7:54
Browns gotta crank that run game
7:56
back up. Limited carries the last couple of
7:58
games from Chubb. they they
8:00
basically relegated a
8:02
Korean hunt the last couple of weeks to being
8:04
irrelevant. And you're right, anything
8:06
can happen in downtown Detroit. That's
8:08
why I might go to this gate. I love downtown Detroit. That's
8:10
why I might go to this gate. Detroit. And they
8:12
love Jim Rose in downtown Detroit and
8:14
pay for a drink there in ten years. Twenty,
8:16
probably thirty who knows. Jalen
8:18
very quickly. You know the buyout
8:21
market in the NBA had that change a
8:23
contender to a champion?
8:25
Mhmm. I feel the same thing is happening with the old tellback
8:27
from Junior. He has put out his list of
8:29
teams that he would like to join. Have you noticed
8:31
that these teams are all in
8:34
it? cowboys bills, Chiefs giants, like they
8:36
are all leaders in their
8:38
division, not the the bills, whatever. Not
8:40
cowboys. Doesn't matter. They're
8:42
all championship contenders, and
8:44
I feel like, oh, Dell Beckman could be a
8:46
difference maker on one of these teams.
8:49
As a veteran that has
8:51
reinvented himself. I just talked
8:53
about this in Ryan Towne Hill. There was a time
8:55
when Odell Becca was planned in New
8:57
York. And not only
8:59
was he on AAA hall of
9:01
fame track, but he was on a
9:03
track that many felt like Randy
9:05
Moss was on, Like you see Justin
9:07
Jefferson or Lamar Chase right
9:09
now. These great young LSU receivers
9:11
that have come into the league stayed
9:13
healthy stay with team that drafted them and
9:15
eventually had success. You see the
9:17
Vikings have a success now. You
9:19
see the Bingos make it to the Super Bowl
9:21
and so that didn't happen in New York.
9:23
And the famous one hand to
9:25
catch a lot of times with the gift and the
9:27
curse because that became
9:29
something that people saw asked
9:31
the Giants never could win a
9:33
big game or a playoff game with no deal. He
9:35
goes to the Rams.
9:37
He doesn't have to be to do.
9:39
Cooper Cup is to do. They bring in
9:41
Von Miller. They win the Super Bowl with
9:43
that bunch. He gets injured in the Super Bowl where he
9:45
could have been in the Already had a touchdown. Now
9:47
he becomes a player that
9:49
probably because of injury doesn't
9:51
have to be there to catch a hundred and fifteen
9:53
balls to make a difference. Uh-huh. But now
9:55
once the playoffs come, he could be a
9:57
ultimate difference, man. As he was last year for the
9:59
Rams. Alright. Alan, you know
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I love Ben Simmons. And you know I've been
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Chandler Rose and the rest of the crew at seven
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live from the Seaport here in New York City and brought
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back to Jalen and Jacoby. Every single
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day we have a show, what do we do? And this
12:16
wasn't the goal. by any stretch of
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the imagination. And as I
12:20
follow Don Staley's tweets and
12:22
Breonna Stewart's tweets, it
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continues to remind me that we've been doing
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this for two hundred and seventy four days
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acknowledging that Britney Grande has been
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are thinking about you always in our
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minds, jailing.
12:44
Netz
12:45
played pretty well last night. It was a
12:47
tight game in the end against the
12:49
Blazers Royce O'Neil had a tip
12:51
in and a triple double that
12:53
got the Nets to win. But you know what Ben
12:55
Simmons believer, Jalen? I'm a
12:57
Ben Simmons believer, and I
13:00
started to lose some faith in that
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belief early in the season. But last night,
13:04
he helped KD and
13:06
it was a collective win from this
13:08
net squad. It was. And for
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those who haven't been paying tension
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slim rig per averaging thirty
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shooting fifty eight percent from two,
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ninety percent from the line. Ben
13:20
Simmons. Fifteen points, ten
13:22
boards. No, missus. Seven eight assists.
13:24
jog Von playing him a
13:26
lot of minutes at a small ball five.
13:28
and you see him getting the ball on the run playing against
13:31
the five. Mhmm. That's what needs to
13:33
happen. Or getting him on the wing where he
13:35
could turn the corner and go downhill.
13:37
Really so near with the big tip.
13:39
How about Guantanamo? He
13:41
made with five threes. He was out there
13:43
playing well for them. it was a good
13:45
quality win on the road for the nest.
13:47
Watanabe, you were so close, though. You
13:49
were so close. You were so close,
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Jail. You know what? I I'm Paper.
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Paper. Paper. Paperwork.
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One thing that has been very interesting this season
14:01
is The lack of Kawhi Leonard on
14:03
my television screen while I'm watching League
14:05
Pass, I thought he would be back back this
14:07
year. He has been out of games, on
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road trips, leaving road trips, getting
14:11
therapy, but he came back last night against
14:13
your Pistons, and
14:16
he played alright. I'm like --
14:18
Go in. -- I'm like seriously dumb.
14:20
You'll come back against us. Yeah.
14:22
Without Kaye Cunningham out there, shot the bog
14:24
Donovich who have been playing well for us,
14:26
but Reggie Jackson played well obviously
14:28
against his former team. Zoo botch was out
14:30
there grabbing every ball. Kawai didn't
14:32
have double digits. but just being in the
14:34
star lineup is showing his progress
14:36
is really good for the Clippers
14:38
because ultimately, if they're gonna achieve their
14:40
goals, obviously, they didn't need to need to
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co off. the claw playing at
14:44
a elite level. Jalen,
14:47
I need you to be objective for a
14:49
second. Pissence.
14:52
are not the top of the standings in the Easter
14:54
Conference. Meet three in thirteen. And
14:56
are you starting to think about this season
14:59
as a Victor one
15:02
Like, he said, the picture went by Yama. The
15:04
picture went by Yama. Yeah. We just said once
15:06
enough. That's like, well well, here here's the
15:08
thing. Like, Adam Silver done
15:10
a a terrific job of changing the
15:12
lottery odds. Mhmm. So it
15:14
doesn't necessarily work in your favor to
15:16
quote unquote be tanked in November.
15:18
Look at OKC. Look at Utah.
15:20
They came into this season with the same
15:22
aspirations. However, I
15:24
would love to see Victor and Detroit.
15:26
He would look so good. I would love to
15:29
see big I would love to see
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our next guest join us on the program.
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Oh, just joining us. Dave
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Ease, the lyrical assassin,
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Bye. this batch.
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And our next guest represents
16:28
NYC to the fullest. Nineteen
16:31
singles. Fifteen mix
16:33
tapes. five
16:34
music videos, EP
16:37
studio albums, and
16:40
today, book of
16:43
David. Make sure y'all go
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combat our brother
16:47
from another. Dave
16:49
East joins. Do you live in Jacoby.
16:51
What up? go. What
16:53
is good eat? Oh, it's so great
16:55
to have you on the program. Tell us
16:57
what fans can expect when
16:59
they download, when they purchase
17:01
book of David with you and Blue The
17:03
Future. Just that
17:06
authenticity, man, that that that that that sound
17:08
that you gotta come
17:09
to me to get. I feel like, you know what I mean?
17:11
It's it's it's no
17:13
features. Shouse the boot and grands, they
17:15
produce the whole project. She has
17:17
a DJ drama.
17:19
Narrated the whole project. It's it's one of them
17:22
one of them buddies at work where I really
17:24
I reached this old guy. I really wanna get
17:26
in my own in my own world. Let's see
17:28
how that started with with no real
17:30
help from nobody as far as future lives.
17:33
so. It's a hundred percent me.
17:36
Well, you
17:36
have to be a
17:38
lyrical assassin to do
17:41
an album without features.
17:43
It reminds me of almost non
17:45
Gimatic type. Did
17:47
you consider that when you were going
17:49
into this project?
17:51
Yeah. thought about it. And
17:54
of all the projects I released, I
17:56
always got features on
17:58
each
17:58
body of
17:59
work I would play out, so I wanted to really see how
18:02
that felt as far as for my
18:04
fans. And, you know, my real day, my
18:06
supporters, we had to
18:08
just be me on the body of work. So this is it right here.
18:10
Booking data. So
18:12
you have no features on this project that makes
18:14
me so excited to just get a full day peace
18:17
experience. is, but you are one of the best artists that
18:19
gives features to other people's
18:21
projects, namely Lloyd Banks. And
18:23
I'm walking down six Avenue.
18:25
The day it came out,
18:27
and I was listening to traffic. And
18:29
I was like, did he just did he just say
18:31
Jaylon and Jacoby out of nowhere? I don't
18:33
listen to it like fifteen times in a
18:35
row. I just can't express enough.
18:37
How much that meant to me and
18:39
how much that means to effort us to work
18:41
on the show. Tell me why you
18:43
just said words Jaylon Jacoby in the
18:45
middle of a verse. I've
18:46
been watching y'all. I've been told through.
18:49
So it it it you know, it
18:52
it was was pressuring my mind and I and I never heard
18:54
nobody else got y'all out. So I
18:56
figured out
18:56
I I mean, the first one to do it.
19:00
That's
19:00
love. and we forever grateful.
19:02
And I must ask because
19:04
a lot of people may not know that
19:06
you six foot five, you
19:08
stay in shape, and
19:10
you also got a hoop game. So
19:12
--
19:12
Right. -- talk to me about these New
19:15
York City teams, what you're seeing in
19:17
Brooklyn, what you're seeing the
19:19
Knicks, what you're seeing as it relates to New
19:21
York basketball in the league right
19:23
now. It's it's
19:26
it's you know, it's it's it's it's
19:28
it's kinda hard to do a mixed fan. I
19:30
love I love Canadian Calvary. You know what
19:32
I mean? But is this we need some
19:35
wins. Right? That's that's That's what I'm saying. I need
19:37
a a consistent run. We need
19:39
a good run. Even when the
19:41
next door brooklyn, we need a good
19:43
right there. So
19:46
you have bars. Everybody knows that, but
19:48
you also get buckets, as
19:50
Jalen alluded to. They always talk
19:52
about mappers that can hope if Quavo comes to mind,
19:54
if Shaquette comes to mind, are you still
19:56
out there getting pickup runs? Are you going
19:58
head to head with anybody? When was it last time you were
20:00
on a basketball court? My
20:03
the wife
20:04
Chris Britney had me in the
20:07
gym. So that was probably the girl last time I
20:09
was and I really wasn't going one on one on
20:11
that, like, I was just doing, like, little trails,
20:13
no cardio, no bike shooting
20:15
around, different little dribble trails and stuff
20:17
like, that's something that'll be in
20:19
my blood for the rest of my life.
20:21
You know what I mean? I played so much, so many years,
20:23
put so much time into it. So
20:25
that's something that's just like it's it's second
20:28
nature. But, yeah, that the last month in New Zealand
20:30
was with Britney. I've got Chris Britney. He
20:32
he he definitely motivates me and tries to
20:34
do. When he gets
20:35
the chance, he always tries to sneak me in a
20:37
gym. We'll managing. Try to take me out of the studio,
20:39
get in the gym. Absolutely
20:42
shots at Chris Brickley works out
20:44
with the best of the best. And
20:46
as you know this is your whole court. So we're
20:48
gonna not only promote your app, but we're
20:50
gonna show you high school highlights.
20:52
So I have to ask with
20:55
some of your most memorable
20:58
moments when you were playing ball.
21:01
Just really for me,
21:04
the AAU searching
21:06
was crazy because I got to really play
21:08
against everybody that I'm seeing
21:10
in the lead to date. You know what I mean? Everybody that
21:12
I'm seeing in having wonderful careers.
21:15
I I went up against
21:17
them at AAU, Kevin Love,
21:19
Russell Westbrook,
21:21
KD, all these guys
21:23
hard and you know what I
21:25
mean? So I was I was
21:27
fortunate enough to be able to
21:30
experience that. And now that I'm
21:32
doing music, all these guys are my friends, you know what I
21:34
mean, so it's beautiful. So
21:37
I have to not just
21:39
respect the new project coming out book
21:41
of David and your hoop game, but you
21:43
also have a store. It's on one forty
21:45
fifth. It's called from the deli -- Oh. -- so I want
21:47
you to explain to our non New
21:49
Yorker audience the relationship
21:51
that everyone in this city has with
21:53
their local deli. Oh,
21:56
that's that's That's that's your moms
21:58
outside of your moms. You know what
21:59
I mean? Like, if if you want no food,
22:02
you're grandma to go to the grocery store.
22:04
And the and the and the and the the guy running is like
22:06
a extension of your family if you know
22:08
you. Because I would get credit all kind of
22:10
different days of this store when I didn't have. So
22:12
I feel like both Diggas in New York
22:14
is like a real cornerstone thing
22:17
that each community, whether it's Brooklyn,
22:20
Queens, hall and the Bronx, it's like each
22:22
community. Within each community,
22:24
they all have though, so I wanted to
22:26
recreate my own and
22:28
call it from the deli. That's so
22:30
dope that I up a new spirit.
22:33
And shout the boot of the future.
22:35
Shout the gray out. Execute to
22:37
produce the album. Book of David.
22:39
Make sure y'all go support that.
22:41
I have to ask you one more day before you get out of
22:44
here because you're a hip hop historian.
22:46
If you
22:47
have five albums
22:50
that you can own listen
22:53
to. What
22:53
would they be? Five
22:56
albums? Yep.
22:58
Alright.
23:00
It would be nice. It
23:02
was written. It would
23:04
be big pawn capital
23:07
punishment.
23:08
It would
23:09
be styles, Pete, Jason, and
23:12
gentlemen.
23:13
It would be
23:16
biggie, light at the
23:18
delts. He's
23:19
kinda sweating on
23:22
this one. He Yeah.
23:24
I'm trying to think. What was that
23:26
last one? Probably,
23:29
damn.
23:29
No.
23:31
Victory lap. This prioritize.
23:35
Regular
23:35
teeth. Nip hustle. That's a great call.
23:37
Excuse me. No. We fight. Have a great feel
23:39
for your family. as I mentioned, this is your home
23:42
court. We need to get you on every
23:44
other week to talk to you. I'm here. I'm
23:46
here. It's a David. Whatever you
23:48
wanted to help me. Love
23:50
is law. Appreciate you.
23:52
Appreciate you. Always. Thank you, man.
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