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Inside Conan, an

1:01

important Hollywood podcast.

1:10

Welcome to Inside Conan, an important Hollywood

1:12

podcast. I'm Mike Sweeney. I'm

1:14

Jesse Gaskell. And we

1:16

are friends. We

1:19

are friends. And coworkers. Yes, yes. And

1:21

coworkers. When does that ever happen?

1:24

Yeah. Oh, I guess all the time. But

1:26

anyway. When

1:28

all you do is work. Exactly.

1:31

I know. Well, that used to be the case.

1:33

Now, it's a strike lifestyle.

1:36

Yeah. We're on strike. We

1:38

used to be writers for Conan. You were the head

1:40

writer for a long time. Well,

1:42

yeah. Yes, I was. No one else

1:44

would do it. Have

1:47

you been picketing a lot lately? Yeah,

1:50

I've been picketing. I've been actually going all the

1:52

way to the West Side

1:54

Studios. Really? Which are really far from

1:56

where I live. Yeah. What

1:57

are you running from? Well,

2:01

I've been meeting up, trying to meet up with some

2:03

people I haven't seen in a while. Oh, that's smart.

2:07

Yeah, you know, it's a good excuse.

2:10

Yes. Are these writer friends you're

2:12

meeting, literally meeting on the picket line or people

2:14

you're meeting who live on the West side?

2:17

They're writer friends who also live on the

2:19

West side. Well, and one of them, I just met

2:21

Robin Schiff, who was my,

2:24

she was my WGA mentor when I joined

2:26

the WGA. And we interviewed her on this podcast

2:29

because she was Conan's Groundlings

2:30

teacher. Oh, right. Yes, yes.

2:33

But she was your WGA mentor?

2:35

Yeah, they gave me a mentor when I joined.

2:38

Why did you get a, I didn't get a mentor.

2:42

Yeah, I don't know. I think that it was a newer program

2:44

probably when I came along. Have

2:48

you had a lot of mentors in your life? You know

2:50

what, I bet you attracted mentors. Like

2:52

you just seem like a mentor magnet. Everyone's

2:55

like, no, I want to mentor her. I'd

2:58

consider

2:58

you a mentor. No, but

3:01

no, but I mean someone who actually helps you. You

3:04

are that. But

3:06

there are so many people who like always talk about

3:08

their mentors and

3:10

no one ever wanted anything

3:12

to do. I don't think I ever had a

3:14

mentor. I think they just didn't think you needed help. They

3:17

were like, you're fine. I

3:19

feel like I was cheated in

3:21

life of a major experience. No

3:24

one ever wanted to take me under their wing. Well,

3:27

it's sort of a

3:28

weird relationship because I don't know if you

3:30

ever actually formalize it.

3:33

I mean, this one was, this was part of a program

3:35

that WJ was running, but

3:38

people don't say, oh, would you like to be my mentee?

3:41

I mean, that maybe is, creeps

3:44

say that. Creeps say that,

3:46

absolutely. I would have been happy

3:48

if a creep wanted to mentor me. Anybody.

3:50

Oh, to groom you. A

3:53

creep mentor, or if I was being groomed

3:55

by someone, none of that, nothing. No

3:58

love, no attention. Well, what

4:00

if Conan thinks he's your mentor? Oh,

4:03

no. No,

4:05

cause I would, he'd be mentoring someone to

4:07

be a host, right? Right. Yeah.

4:11

I mean, sure, he mentors everyone. Or

4:13

just to be in comedy. I don't know, he

4:15

likes to give advice. I think

4:17

he mentors all the writers. He

4:19

does. Yeah, absolutely. No,

4:22

I, okay. I just was looking for

4:24

something to complain about. So

4:27

what else going on?

4:29

Well, so we've been

4:32

house hunting and it's

4:34

terrible. I mean, it's

4:36

just

4:37

insane. There was an article in the LA Times

4:39

this morning about how

4:41

awful it is here. I

4:43

mean, literally. You're looking in LA. I was gonna say,

4:46

just as long as you're not looking in LA. Oh yeah,

4:48

no, if I was, I wish I was looking in Kansas

4:50

City, but

4:54

I mean, if you go further outside of Los Angeles,

4:56

I mean, we're already pretty, we're as far east.

4:59

You can be and still be in Los

5:02

Angeles City.

5:02

But Sona

5:06

Mocesian is

5:07

trying to get me to move to Altadena.

5:10

Where she lives, right? Where she lives, which is even further

5:12

east. It's further east and north.

5:15

But we did go to see a house there

5:18

because it was like, oh,

5:20

we could in our budget

5:22

have a house with this beautiful like

5:26

landscaped yard with a pool. We

5:29

could have a pool in Altadena. Oh

5:31

my God. And Altadena

5:34

is nestled against these beautiful mountains.

5:37

It is, it's right up against the

5:39

Angeles National Forest. Sona

5:41

said there are bears all the time that wander

5:44

through the neighborhood. So she checks next door

5:46

to see, make sure there are no bears outside.

5:49

Before

5:51

she lets her kids out to play. Yeah,

5:54

and also you can't get insurance because of

5:56

the wildfires. Right. So

5:59

those are some of the downs.

5:59

Those are downsides.

6:02

So yeah, you're

6:05

not gonna go to Altadena. That's what it sounds like. We're

6:07

not ready yet, but I do.

6:09

From time to time, I'll get a little text from

6:12

Sona that's

6:14

like, hey, look, we've got a little free

6:16

library now.

6:17

Oh, yeah, no, that's, I know. Well,

6:21

yeah, I mean, I know we're gonna,

6:23

we'll be fine wherever we are. Oh,

6:25

yeah, yeah, yeah. And actually today's

6:28

guest famously lived

6:30

in a two bedroom apartment in

6:32

New York with like seven people

6:35

in it.

6:35

Yeah. His wife and two kids. And

6:38

five kids. Five kids. I think five kids.

6:40

Five kids. Which I

6:42

thought that was against the law, but I guess you're allowed

6:45

to have as many kids. Oh

6:47

no, that's China. Nobody, even they rescinded

6:50

that law. I guess you're allowed to have as many kids

6:52

as you want, but that's crazy that they

6:54

live like that. And- That's a reality

6:56

show. Yeah, he did it just to get material

6:58

for his act.

6:59

Okay, well, that

7:01

makes sense. But I'm glad he

7:03

did it because he's hilarious.

7:05

We're talking about Jim Gaffigan.

7:07

Yes, Jim Gaffigan. Really

7:10

funny, obviously standup comic.

7:12

Many time

7:14

Conan guest and was

7:16

even in some Conan sketches early

7:19

on, remote. Yes, yep. Here's

7:21

Jim Gaffigan.

7:23

Hi, how are you? Hi Jim, thanks for being here. Thanks

7:25

for having me. When was the last

7:27

time you two saw each other? Oh, I don't know. Probably

7:29

the last time you're on the Conan show. Yeah. That's

7:32

when we agree to see each other. Isn't that

7:34

crazy? It's so crazy. So, Mike,

7:36

I've been doing standup

7:39

forever and he was

7:41

the crowd work king, Mike Sweeney.

7:45

Mike Sweeney's on. Go, go check it

7:48

out. Mike Sweeney's on. Yeah, Mike Sweeney's on.

7:50

Go, go check it out. Mike Sweeney's on. Go

7:52

put money in your meter. And

7:56

so there was, it is...

7:59

I feel like I'm talking to a comedy legend

8:02

here.

8:02

Oh. Like, oh. Oh. This

8:05

is how he opens every podcast. He

8:09

knows that he was a comedy. Oh, yeah, yeah.

8:12

A Mike Sweeney, a couple different

8:14

Mike Sweeney jokes. One is

8:16

I, my mother was a nurse. And

8:19

so

8:19

instead of pornography, I would look

8:22

at her medical books. And so

8:24

now I can only get aroused if

8:26

a woman has a

8:28

hatchet in her head or something

8:30

like that. Was that kind of what the joke was? Oh,

8:33

I think a giant goiter. Yes,

8:35

a giant goiter. Yeah, a nice big

8:38

sweaty goiter. It's also the worst

8:40

thing in the world for someone to repeat

8:42

a joke back to you and butcher it. You're

8:45

like, please don't. Well, I didn't remember it till

8:47

you said it. So blissfully,

8:50

like a bad dental experience, my

8:52

brain is erased. All those

8:54

old jokes. That's a victimless crime because

8:57

then you get to blame it on the delivery and you get to blame it on

8:59

the writing. That was actually the best

9:01

version of it I've ever heard. I like the hatchet

9:03

in there. It was a book on forensics.

9:07

So I remember the

9:10

first time I saw you was at the comic

9:12

strip on Second Avenue. And you were,

9:15

I think it was your first time there possibly.

9:17

And I, does that- It might've been.

9:21

Was that the first club you went to? I mean, if we're

9:23

gonna go down memory lane, when

9:25

was that

9:26

the first club you got

9:28

in at, the comic strip or was there, was

9:30

it a different club in New York City? No, I really struggled to

9:32

get in there.

9:33

Really? But I remember, so

9:35

like, it's, I don't know. It's

9:37

all such a blur. It was 30 years ago,

9:39

which is ironic because we're only 30

9:41

right now. Right, right guys. Audio

9:45

medium. But you were funny

9:47

right away. There were some comics.

9:49

Yeah, you mentioned that because I asked about that. And

9:52

you said there's a couple of people that just

9:54

immediately, they come out of the womb being good at stand

9:56

up. And it sounds like that was Jim.

9:59

Thank you, that's right. And all the other, you were

10:01

great right away. And, you

10:03

know, Chris Rock and John Stewart

10:05

and Ray Romano were guys were

10:07

just like,

10:08

seemed to just go

10:11

off the shore and immediately they're surfing.

10:14

They didn't have that year of bombing. No, if

10:17

they were bombing, they were doing it.

10:19

Maybe you were doing it on Long Island. But

10:22

not when I saw you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's

10:24

like, I know this is inside Conan, but

10:26

it's really just about standup

10:28

comedy in 1993. It's very

10:31

specific year. Honestly, you've listened

10:33

to the podcast. Sometimes

10:35

we do divert in that direction.

10:38

So wait a minute. So inside Conan, is this

10:41

because the show, the

10:43

Conan show,

10:45

the different versions

10:47

of it was so instrumental

10:51

in my life, really. It

10:54

is just amazing how, you know,

10:59

and also it's like even some of, you

11:02

know, you show up, you'd

11:04

see friends there. And also, I

11:07

mean, Conan was really good. Like, you know,

11:09

like you'd watch the opening monologue and

11:12

everyone would laugh. I mean, I know he sucked

11:14

at the beginning, but everyone sucks at the beginning.

11:16

Yeah, yeah. But like, it

11:18

is amazing. And because

11:20

I did that pale force

11:23

thing, I remember,

11:26

you know, I had a frequency to go

11:28

there and there

11:30

was to

11:33

witness and also, you know, the

11:35

dynamic of Conan

11:39

and Letterman. I also like doing

11:41

Conan and Letterman because I had always kind of romanticized

11:44

hosting a late night show. And I was like,

11:47

oh, this is a horrible job. You

11:49

know, like it's a really, you have to go every day. It's

11:52

a really, you know, and you have to

11:54

be on

11:55

end. And, you know, both

11:57

Conan and Letterman

11:59

would. you

12:01

know, there's, you know,

12:04

there is, you get a certain

12:06

amount of feedback, like probably to

12:09

the outside world, the feedback that

12:11

they get from the audience every night

12:13

on the show

12:14

would be amazing. But there

12:17

is, there's a, you

12:19

can measure it in like a really

12:22

minutia. So like when they don't get,

12:24

you get spoiled by really good audiences. So

12:27

like, both Conan and Letterman

12:29

would be like this crowd. You're like,

12:31

whereas with Letterman, if he didn't like the

12:33

crowd, he would just be in a bad mood

12:36

on camera. On camera. Yeah. Well,

12:38

he would just kind of,

12:40

you could kind of see it in his

12:42

eyes. Whereas

12:44

where he, I mean, he also had done

12:46

it much longer, but

12:48

I remember watching Conan,

12:50

and I'm sure you guys know about this.

12:53

When, like, when

12:57

Conan would have a guest that was,

13:00

and they were usually actors that

13:03

thought they were funny, that were

13:05

really not funny, and Conan

13:08

would save them. They

13:10

would be careening down

13:12

this path of like utter

13:14

humiliation. And I would see Conan

13:16

save these people,

13:18

pick them up out of the water, turn

13:20

it on himself and save them. Yeah,

13:23

he's generous. And I remember just being like,

13:25

I was like, oh my gosh, that's

13:27

so impressive. I don't know. I

13:29

just, that really stayed with me when I would watch

13:32

him do that. That was one of my early impressions

13:35

after working there was, you

13:37

know, sometimes there'd be ideas for stuff for

13:40

a comic and he'd be like, ah, it's too negative. It's too

13:42

negative. And it's similar to what you were saying. Like

13:45

out there, if someone's floundering, kind

13:47

of the easy way to go would be to

13:50

pile on. Yeah. And, and

13:53

you're right. He, he always had this

13:55

kind of wanting to be a gracious host. And

13:58

I think that helped drive him to kind of,

13:59

to try to save everyone

14:02

on the couch at that time. Yeah,

14:06

and by the way, there is,

14:08

that's not to say that, I mean, it's not

14:11

my style, but like the whole

14:14

ribbing of, that

14:19

kind of like giving each other shit

14:21

thing. It's not like,

14:24

I understand the value in

14:26

that, it's also just, it's a safer

14:28

bet, you know what I mean? And then you look

14:31

at like

14:32

Jimmy Fallon, where he's like,

14:34

it's like,

14:36

it's warmth overload. And

14:39

I don't mean that in a negative way, you know what I mean? And

14:41

so,

14:42

but also Conan was so funny

14:45

that it was, I mean, now it sounds like he's

14:47

dead for Conan. But Conan was

14:49

also like, I do these bits on the panel,

14:52

and

14:54

then sometimes occasionally he would throw a tag

14:57

and I'm like, dude, that's better than the whole joke I

14:59

just did. Well,

15:01

yeah, you two had great chemistry

15:04

right away. So do you remember

15:07

the first time you were on the show?

15:10

I

15:11

think it might've been, what

15:14

I remember, I don't know if it was the

15:16

very first time, but it was,

15:19

like what people don't realize is there is,

15:22

among standup comedians,

15:25

your publicists and management are always

15:28

trying to get you on the couch, right?

15:31

And the

15:32

thing is, is that no

15:35

one tells you that when you get to the

15:37

couch, that you should be conversational,

15:42

or it's a different task than

15:45

doing your jokes. So I know, like

15:47

I remember I did,

15:50

I don't know if it was the first time, but I did the

15:52

paneling thing. And I remember

15:54

afterwards I was like, oh, I was just

15:57

doing jokes. Like that's not how you do paneling.

15:59

Right.

15:59

I mean, like

16:01

there is something about

16:03

the task

16:06

of being a guest on

16:08

a talk show where

16:10

it has to,

16:12

you can have pre-determined

16:15

things, but it has to be organic. Right.

16:17

So I'm wondering if it's just, cause

16:19

in this thing,

16:21

if it is what I'm thinking of, it's

16:23

just me doing jokes. No,

16:26

actually it's a piece that,

16:30

was dug up. Oh, wait a minute. Yes.

16:33

Is it me and Andy and Karlin?

16:35

Yes. Yes. And

16:37

it's a pre-tape. With kids. And you're

16:39

a network executive,

16:41

doing a focus group with children

16:43

who were in, we did a show with

16:45

an all child audience and

16:47

it was a follow-up piece. And

16:50

I had totally forgotten about it. And we just

16:52

dug it up a few months ago. And there you are,

16:55

you're kind of the star of it. Yeah. And

16:57

it's nine minutes long. It's

17:00

nine minutes long? Yes. You

17:02

guys did not play a nine minute thing. In

17:05

those days. Back

17:07

then, yes. Yeah. And you're great

17:09

in it. Wow. And it's, I think

17:11

it's a couple of years before, it was 1997. So

17:15

it was a couple of years before you came back to do standup

17:17

on the show.

17:17

So you were acting in it. Wow. Oh

17:20

yes. So there was also a bit

17:23

that was, I mean, which is really

17:25

kind of funny given,

17:27

because it was, the show was

17:29

ahead of its time in a lot of ways

17:32

in that there was, and it was probably

17:34

around the same time period.

17:37

Because it was self-aware, which is kind of

17:39

Conan sensibility.

17:41

And it was talking about Conan and Andy,

17:44

and they were gonna add diversity

17:46

to

17:46

the show. And

17:48

so they added me. So it was-

17:51

I don't remember that. That's great. It was set up

17:54

as Irish Catholic from Boston and this

17:57

Protestant from Illinois.

17:59

and they said I was a Mormon, you

18:02

know? And there was- That rings

18:04

a bell. At the rehearsal, I flubbed my line and

18:06

Conan was like, maybe we should cut it. And

18:08

I'm like, ah, I'm not gonna mess

18:10

up. He said that out loud. He usually

18:13

waits till we're backstage to go, maybe we should cut that.

18:17

That's how you know he's not gonna cut it. It was

18:19

just such an easy line.

18:21

And I just, I think it's intimidating.

18:24

It is. It's very, well,

18:28

a lot of people are great in rehearsal.

18:31

And then when the audience is added and

18:33

the red

18:33

light comes on, they

18:36

get really panic. So

18:38

better to get it out in rehearsal. Yes, get

18:40

it over with. Get those cobwebs out. That was smart.

18:43

So, I mean, I don't know if this is what

18:45

this is about, but I'm really curious

18:48

because we are living through,

18:51

I mean, with this strike, and

18:57

there is part of me that feels like this

18:59

is the worst thing

19:01

that could happen to late night talk

19:03

shows, this strike. So it's like,

19:06

hey, you people that, the remaining

19:08

people that still have a habit

19:11

of watching late night comedy

19:14

or a variety show kind of thing,

19:17

you're now gonna take- They'll contain you out

19:19

of it. Yeah. We're gonna give

19:21

you three months to get

19:23

into date line. We're gonna

19:25

give you three months to

19:27

find out- It's a mop-up operation. What

19:31

your HBO Max password

19:33

is. There's people. You know what I mean?

19:35

Yeah. Yes. No, that's true.

19:37

I feel for Colbert and all these

19:40

guys, because it's just like,

19:42

it's pretty brutal. You know, like you

19:44

have some momentum and you

19:46

have these diehards, but

19:49

it's really, my great brilliant

19:52

observation is that,

19:54

you know, I'm sure when they, you

19:57

know, when they introduced-

19:59

and they're like, oh, this is gonna kill movies.

20:05

And in a way, yeah. And

20:09

so in a way, this is

20:11

finally,

20:14

like streaming the version of

20:16

television

20:17

is the final thing that's gonna kill

20:19

movies. Like, I mean, it has in

20:21

some ways. And I'm,

20:23

you know, I'm not talking about like Marvel

20:25

movies or, you know, or, you

20:27

know, some indie films. I'm talking about like

20:30

the movie experience that I had

20:32

growing up, which was,

20:34

you know, as a teenager,

20:36

you would go to a movie on a weekend

20:38

because you couldn't go to a bar, you

20:40

know. And now teenagers

20:43

spit in their parents'

20:46

basement and eat an edible that

20:48

they somehow can get wherever they

20:50

want. And they don't have to go to a movie

20:52

theater. And their parents are like, we don't want you to- Just text their friends,

20:55

yeah. We don't want you to leave the property.

20:58

Or they're playing video games. Well, sometimes

21:01

on Instagram, you know, these, it's like, well,

21:03

check out this crazy, you know,

21:05

variety TV, the Osmond show

21:08

from 75. And you're like,

21:10

that's crazy. And

21:12

lately I've been like, is that, our late

21:14

night talk

21:15

show clips gonna be like that in 15

21:17

years where it's like, wait, you'd sit on

21:20

this ugly couch and why are

21:22

those other two people on the couch? And what

21:25

is this? Because you do

21:27

wonder where it's headed. Yeah, it's so

21:29

interesting. Yeah, I mean, it is so, but

21:32

like, do you guys have an instinct

21:34

of what the next iteration of,

21:37

because there is something, and also there's

21:40

celebrities have their,

21:42

you know, Jennifer Aniston's, got

21:45

her Instagram. And

21:49

Brad Pitt, like it used to be,

21:52

you would see, oh,

21:54

you know, like, you know, like

21:56

this celebrity that,

21:58

you know,

22:01

Mariel Hemingway is gonna be on the Tonight

22:04

Show. It's like, I don't even know what she's like outside

22:06

of the room. Right, right.

22:08

And now it's like, we know everything and

22:10

they also have their own vodka and a

22:12

tequila. Right, they're

22:13

so much more accessible. Too

22:15

accessible. And they don't need the machinery of

22:17

late night to promote anything anymore. Cause

22:20

yeah, they can just go direct to consumers, basically.

22:22

So, and you know, podcasts,

22:25

I guess have replaced it, right? There's a long

22:27

form element

22:28

that has,

22:31

and I'm sure you guys, like it's

22:34

so interesting. How often do

22:36

you run into people? Cause I'm sure people,

22:38

there's an audio version and a video version

22:40

of this, right? Right.

22:41

And so

22:43

there are people that

22:45

you don't know, know you from this,

22:48

right? That's what

22:50

someone has told us. Well, and

22:52

I, I mean, as

22:54

you're saying this, I have had that thought cynically,

22:57

I've thought, okay, podcasts have

23:00

proliferated and then now every

23:02

podcast is being filmed. And now is that

23:04

going to be kind of the new late night show?

23:06

Right. But we sort of circumvented,

23:09

like we found a much cheaper way to make

23:11

it. There's no writers, there's no, you

23:14

know, stage crew and there's no unions

23:16

to deal with. So now we kind

23:17

of. And it's two hours long. Yeah,

23:20

there's no editing. Not this, don't worry.

23:22

Right. Yeah, but yeah. But right,

23:24

so we like circuitously

23:25

ended up in the same place, but with,

23:27

by, you know, without all the

23:29

expensive stuff.

23:31

It's like, who was the guy that was

23:34

Tom Snyder? Like Tom Snyder essentially,

23:36

he essentially did a podcast,

23:39

right? So like you're a little kid watching

23:41

this guy and you're like, what the hell is he doing?

23:43

What is this? He's just this eccentric

23:46

guy. I don't know who that is. The cat is too

23:48

close to his head.

23:50

You know what I mean? It's like, it was like, is

23:52

this like a friend would tonight kind of

23:54

thing? What's going on here? And

23:57

so that's what podcasts are, except

23:59

for their.

23:59

a bazillion of

24:02

them, right? And

24:03

my 17 year old son falls asleep listening

24:06

to podcasts.

24:07

Yeah,

24:10

that's how we counteract loneliness now. And

24:13

you're right, that was what late night was before.

24:16

Or a white noise machine. That's

24:18

my podcast, I go to bed too. Right,

24:21

other Mike Sweeney. Hi, I

24:24

like to do Jim, doing me. Hi

24:26

Jim, Jim, good to see you.

24:28

That's who you've been doing this whole time. That's right, I had no

24:30

idea. I thought it was me,

24:32

it's Jim doing me. Well,

24:36

so do you feel like you've stepped away from,

24:39

like do you,

24:40

if you're asked to be in a late night show now, do

24:42

you even care because you have, now

24:44

you're so prolific and you have

24:46

all these specials that are coming out and you

24:49

can promote them on your website, it's almost

24:51

like you have this whole infrastructure too,

24:54

where you don't even need to do

24:56

those appearances in a way, right? Or

24:59

do you feel that way? Well, I mean. And that's

25:01

evolving. I mean, I wonder if some of it is,

25:06

it's so crazy because how important

25:09

they were. Yeah. Like

25:12

the appearing on

25:14

Letterman or doing a Conan set

25:18

was, it was,

25:19

not a huge accolade,

25:23

not a huge accolade, but it reaffirmed

25:26

you as a real comedian,

25:28

right? Yeah. And so I

25:30

think there's a remnants of that

25:33

with me. It's also fun, you

25:34

know what I mean? Yeah.

25:36

But it is weird,

25:38

it is weird witnessing the,

25:43

granted, it's hard to measure what the social

25:46

media

25:52

feedback on things. Like I've seen the,

25:55

it used to be the social media

25:58

comments.

25:59

I mean, granted.

25:59

I used to be more on top

26:02

of Twitter, but

26:04

it's it's like the people that are

26:06

watching late night shows now are

26:08

probably not engaged in social

26:11

media, if that makes sense.

26:13

Right. So

26:14

I mean, I'm sure there's I'm generalizing,

26:17

but it is.

26:19

It

26:21

is interesting. But, you know, one of the things

26:23

that is I

26:24

mean, it's kind of a different question,

26:27

but

26:28

I feel as though, you

26:30

know, the podcast

26:33

experience is

26:35

so

26:37

perfect for comedians because

26:41

it's how we can kind of socialize

26:43

with other comedians. Because

26:45

if if you have if

26:48

you have, you know, I don't care if you're divorced

26:51

and living on your own, you can't you know, like

26:54

everyone in the entertainment industry

26:56

is, you know, now they're working on this

26:58

show, now they're touring, they're doing this or that.

27:01

So

27:01

what people don't realize is that

27:04

comedians kind of talking on

27:06

podcast is and

27:09

they also you know, comedians

27:11

aren't the type of person like just catching up.

27:14

You know, there is like because

27:17

we're we you know, we were kind

27:19

of there was an incubation

27:21

period where you wouldn't make plans. You

27:24

would just go to a club and you would see someone

27:26

you know, and you hang out with them for a little

27:28

bit. So 3am and never

27:30

learn about their lives. Yeah,

27:35

now everyone's going to bed early because

27:37

they have to get up and do an early morning podcast

27:40

with another comic. Oh, never

27:42

doing the podcast is a great time

27:44

to hang out with these. Yeah, it's

27:46

it's

27:47

the justification and everyone's life

27:50

so busy, you know, someone's in a relationship.

27:52

It's like your spouse or whatever

27:55

is like I have to do this. This

27:57

is it, you know, this is part of the job, but otherwise.

27:59

My wife would be like, you gotta

28:02

help me with these kids. I'm like, I'm working.

28:04

I'm working. I'm

28:07

booked.

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30:16

I wanted to ask about Pale Force because you

30:19

briefly brought that up. But yeah,

30:21

Jim, you were a part of a kind of

30:23

long, really long running bit on

30:25

the late, on

30:27

Late Night with Golden O'Brien that was an animated

30:31

sketch called Pale Force

30:33

where you were

30:34

superheroes who would

30:36

solve crimes and fight

30:39

crime with your paleness. Yes.

30:42

How did, do you remember how that came about or how that

30:44

got pitched to

30:44

you? Oh yeah, no. And I remember,

30:47

so my brother-in-law who

30:50

was Paul Knoth, who is,

30:53

he's done a lot of things. But

30:55

he was a cartoonist

30:57

for the New Yorker. He still is. Oh cool.

31:00

But he's done graphic novels and he's done a lot

31:02

of things.

31:03

He had this,

31:04

he would come with me. He also wanted

31:07

to, he looked

31:08

at, I'm sure he's

31:10

written on shows and stuff like that. But

31:13

he would come with me sometimes when I would do

31:15

Conan. And after one

31:17

of the shows, he's

31:19

like, hey, I have this idea for this

31:21

idea that

31:25

this animated thing we could do on Conan.

31:28

And I was like, I don't wanna like,

31:30

I mean, it was such a good gig doing

31:32

stand up on ground. I don't wanna spoil

31:34

the well here. I don't wanna be, I

31:36

mean, I can be a nudge, but I don't

31:38

wanna be too much of a nudge. And he's

31:41

like, well, and he was like, you

31:43

know Mike Sweeney, right? And I'm like, yeah,

31:46

but I don't want him

31:48

to like, when he sees me

31:50

be like, I don't want him to be sad

31:52

when he sees me. I want him to be happy. Here's

31:55

the guy pitching the nepotism

31:57

card. His brother-in-laws.

31:59

So he, it was, and

32:02

by the way, it was all Paul's idea.

32:05

And

32:06

we worked on it a little bit, kind

32:09

of presenting it. And we brought it up

32:11

to

32:12

Mike and Jeff

32:14

Ross. And it was

32:17

one of those things where, you know,

32:19

they tried it out. And

32:22

it is kind of, you know, there

32:24

is something, like Conan's so self-deprecating.

32:27

And the paleness thing was something that

32:30

I kind of addressed

32:32

in my standup. And there was a time

32:34

when I was on, I was doing standup

32:37

and Phil Hoffman was on and

32:40

Conan. And it was just, I remember addressing

32:43

how there was just like so

32:45

many pale people in kind of my inside voice

32:47

thing. And so we

32:50

kind

32:51

of brought it up and, you know, it's like,

32:53

and then Mike was nice enough to kind of

32:55

go, all right, I'll see what we can do

32:58

here, you know, and so

33:00

we did it and it worked. Well,

33:03

it's so funny because- I just pitched it to

33:05

Conan and he was like, well, yeah,

33:07

that sounds like the idea. I

33:09

think he was just- Comus, I get to be a superhero. I

33:11

think he was so excited. Yeah, a

33:13

guest was gonna like do all this extra homework.

33:16

Well, that's the other thing I was gonna say as, I mean,

33:18

as writers on the show, it's like, oh no,

33:20

please take all the time you need, Mr.

33:22

Gannigan.

33:22

Right, right, right, exactly. Well, you know,

33:24

that's a guest. It was a guest segment. So

33:27

it really didn't help with all the other stuff.

33:29

It was like, yeah, okay, sure, make

33:31

your cartoon. But no, but Conan

33:33

loved the idea. And then it

33:35

was a giant, the first one

33:38

just killed. Yeah. So

33:40

that was, then it was- And it was also, and then

33:42

we were like, we're gonna do this, I mean,

33:44

it's so weird in this day and age

33:47

where many people are considering this

33:50

by watching the video.

33:51

But

33:53

we had this idea that we would do

33:55

half the episode on the show

33:58

and half would be on. NBC.com. Oh, 2005. So

34:00

it's like, Oh my God, the internet.

34:03

This is when Netflix was, was maybe

34:11

they were thinking of doing streaming. Right. Yeah. And, um,

34:13

and, and the, there

34:15

would

34:20

always be a throw to

34:23

NBC.com.

34:24

We'd be at, cause you know,

34:26

I, we'd be at home watching and we'd be like,

34:28

all right, let's go to NBC.com. It never worked.

34:31

And it was,

34:32

they didn't have the bandwidth because the

34:34

technology wasn't there. Yeah.

34:36

You know, we can't host videos. They

34:39

got their act together. Oh wait, it doesn't

34:41

exist. It was amazing. But animations,

34:43

uh,

34:44

and obviously again, my brother-in-law,

34:46

Paul, he just animated himself.

34:49

That's usually a full

34:52

team of people. Yeah. He

34:54

drew a lot of it. I think

34:56

the first one, he pretty much did everything.

34:59

Wow. And then when we,

35:02

then we did another one and then it became

35:05

this series idea, uh, you

35:07

know, where I would come back and I was coming back like

35:10

once a month. Yes. I was looking

35:12

at the dates. You were also prior

35:14

to this coming back every two months

35:16

doing standup, which is like,

35:19

I saw one where you're on in June and then you're

35:22

on and you're on three months later. And I'm

35:24

like, wow, that is,

35:26

that is, they, I think it was just like, come

35:28

back, please come back whenever you're available.

35:31

Yeah. I love doing it. And it was,

35:33

it was really, I

35:35

mean, I think that contributed like

35:38

the frequency of doing these late

35:41

night spots. I was kind of, I

35:43

was essentially clean, but it was,

35:45

you know, there were some curse words,

35:47

but like, if you're getting ready

35:49

to do a TV set where you can't

35:52

obviously curse, then you,

35:54

then you have to sit there and get rid of the

35:56

curse words. So I was like, I'm just going to get rid

35:58

of it before I write.

35:59

it now. And so that kind

36:02

of steered me in a way to like,

36:06

I mean, it's not like I was, you know, cursing

36:08

every other phrase,

36:11

but it was, it was

36:13

those Conan spots where it

36:15

was, all right,

36:16

you got four minutes. And

36:18

it was also like making sure that,

36:20

you

36:22

know, you also wanted it to be

36:25

easy. You wanted to deliver and didn't

36:27

want someone to be like, because there

36:29

is, that is also funny with like some

36:31

comedians. They're like, it is clean. I don't

36:34

say anything. I just talk about eating pussy.

36:36

Yeah. Yeah. But I don't curse. You're like,

36:42

it's actually

36:44

not just about cursing. Right. You

36:46

know what I mean? So no, but that's really

36:48

interesting that you, so you've kind of started writing specifically

36:51

for TV spots.

36:54

Yes. Well, and again, it was, that was

36:56

the, you know,

37:00

that was way more important

37:02

than, you

37:06

know, a comedy center. I mean, comedy central,

37:08

you could get a half hour,

37:10

but, and, and I think that was probably

37:12

like the blue collar guys were exploding,

37:14

but,

37:16

but appearing on Conan

37:19

Letterman,

37:20

you know, and the tonight show,

37:22

but really it was Conan and Letterman wasn't

37:24

it? You know, like if Jay Leno was listening, I

37:26

don't want him to feel bad, but Jay

37:29

Jay's our biggest fan. He

37:33

loves all kinds of courses. He knows

37:35

the way he's going to come up. He has all

37:37

emerged. Any of the history. But

37:41

Jim,

37:42

I like him feeling bad. What do you listen

37:44

to? Hurt

37:46

my feelings. Yeah.

37:48

No, I think among comics.

37:51

Yeah. I mean, Letterman and

37:53

then Conan became kind of a

37:55

hot place for standups to start

37:58

making their first appearance on. you know, after a bit.

38:01

So, but that, I love that you had that discipline

38:04

because most comics,

38:05

it's like, you know, you're going on every

38:07

night in a club

38:09

in probably New York City

38:12

and the

38:13

pressure to want to swear or just to

38:15

ingratiate yourself with that live craft. But

38:18

you were like able to kind of say,

38:20

okay, which I think is really

38:22

hard to do. I'm working for a higher power. Yeah, seriously.

38:24

NBC standards and practices. That's right.

38:27

You can get it at NBC.com when

38:29

it works, but yeah. Yeah, no, that's, it's

38:31

very impressive though.

38:34

That's cool. So really Conan is the reason

38:36

you got to open up for the

38:38

Pope. He is,

38:40

he is the only reason. Good.

38:43

It is. If we learn anything from this. Yeah, what a weird,

38:47

it's, it's so, it's,

38:49

the Pope thing is so

38:52

weird because, you know,

38:55

it's such an absurd idea. They're

38:58

like, oh, you know, the Pope's coming to Philadelphia

39:00

and they're like, we should probably get a comedian

39:03

to open. I know. And

39:06

it's just. Different genres. And

39:09

I had a whole story on

39:11

it in a special, but

39:13

it's, there's also something

39:15

about the Northeast. I love the Northeast,

39:18

but like, you know,

39:20

Philadelphia, Boston, you

39:22

know, Long Island, they don't,

39:25

they're not, you know, like there were people

39:27

there that were, you know,

39:29

like eventually I

39:32

did a joke where I kind of like said, you know, you

39:34

guys are so not, you guys are going to be nice

39:36

to the Pope, right? I see, but you did this to Santa

39:38

Claus. And they started booing.

39:41

They started booing me before

39:43

they saw the guy who

39:46

was going to talk to them about mercy.

39:49

I mean, it was just like, but there

39:51

is something about the Northeast that I love

39:53

so much. There's an authenticity, like

39:56

there's not an editing, but

39:58

it's so absurd. someone

40:01

because there's there's situations

40:03

where you can't.

40:05

Like a reference is

40:08

really

40:09

it's inappropriate. I

40:11

mean, it's like if you're like,

40:14

no one's going to be like, you know, like, what do you think of

40:16

the opening acts for the pope? No, it's going to be

40:18

like, you know what? I thought the it's

40:20

just like if you're sarcastic, you're being

40:22

inappropriate. Right. Yeah. And then other people are

40:24

like, you know, he's really holding

40:26

back. You know what I mean? I thought he was

40:28

going to roast the pope. Yeah.

40:31

He's pulling his punches.

40:33

They're not letting the gaffigan be gaffigan.

40:37

I never thought about that. It was in Philadelphia,

40:40

which is hilarious.

40:42

Just like one of the toughest. That's

40:44

terrifying. That's terrifying. There's that

40:46

legendary Bill

40:48

Burr gig outdoors

40:51

in Philly, where like, I don't

40:53

know, four or five other comics went on. So he

40:55

knew the deal. Like,

40:58

I'm sure the first comic,

41:00

that's the problem when you're the first comic or the first two

41:02

comics, you're like,

41:03

you just assume it's you. And

41:06

and you're like, I failed. But

41:08

then the other comics watching are like, oh, no, that comic's

41:10

really good. This crowd

41:12

blows. And

41:15

by the time he went out there, he just

41:18

went insane. It's one of it's

41:20

great.

41:22

It's funny. The pope was probably thinking. I

41:24

know. And then Bill Burr introduced

41:26

the pope. The pope loves Philly. He

41:29

loves to headline and he's passing

41:31

through. He loves playing Philly. It's

41:33

like that that is that whole

41:36

comedy as combat. Right.

41:38

Is it was kind of a

41:41

thing that existed

41:43

in 90s near city

41:45

comedy in New York, where like

41:48

it's, you know, because now it's

41:51

it's the audience

41:53

is more educated on what standup is

41:55

and what the experience is supposed

41:57

to be. But

41:58

I think in the early 90s.

41:59

people were like, are we supposed to

42:02

hack? I saw Rodney Dangerfield.

42:05

Yeah. And then, yeah.

42:07

So it was, But it

42:09

was city to city. Sorry,

42:12

go ahead in a way.

42:13

No, no, I was gonna say that too.

42:16

It's like, I feel like when I

42:18

finally went to DC and

42:21

I did the DC improv and people

42:23

were laughing at certain things, I was like,

42:25

oh, wait a minute.

42:28

Maybe audiences are, you

42:31

know, there's a different expectation.

42:33

It's a different experience.

42:35

It is regional. It's like

42:39

the audiences in Chicago, like a lot of comics

42:42

would move to New York from Chicago and none

42:44

of them were sarcastics. And I was like, wow,

42:47

that it's almost like a reflection of what their audience

42:49

is like. And then I went to San Francisco

42:52

and I never

42:53

saw audiences that great in my life. Why

42:57

every comedian should move to San Francisco

43:00

because they're like theater crowds. They're

43:02

just smart and engaged.

43:04

It seems like how Olympic

43:05

athletes train in Denver

43:08

because at the altitude, whenever

43:11

they go anywhere else, they're gonna be in the best shape of their life.

43:13

So, I mean, you guys starting out in these

43:15

cities on

43:16

the East Coast that are

43:18

tougher crowds. Unless you're

43:20

like, you know, disciplined, you

43:22

can just develop really bad habits.

43:26

And kind of get into the muck. Like, yeah.

43:29

And then you go to another city and everyone's like, why

43:31

is this guy yelling at us? Why

43:33

is he being such an asshole though? It

43:35

also can evolve. Like I remember

43:38

when pot became,

43:39

you know how

43:41

like pot was first legal in

43:43

Colorado

43:46

and Denver was a big

43:48

drinking city, Chicago. You

43:50

know, like there are certain cities where you're like,

43:51

people are just gonna be bombed.

43:54

You know what I mean? It's

43:57

just an expectation,

43:59

particularly

43:59

on late.

43:59

shows.

44:00

And so I remember I did Denver

44:03

and I had been going to Denver for a while

44:05

and I so they made

44:07

pot legal and there was

44:10

this meet and greet you do these theaters

44:13

and like if they paid a certain amount

44:15

you would do a meet and greet with 50 of

44:17

them.

44:17

And it was probably maybe three

44:20

months after pot had been legal.

44:23

And at the meet and greet,

44:25

you know, usually there would be somebody

44:27

drunk, maybe like someone, one

44:30

or two people drunk out of 50.

44:32

And the Denver, the first time I did it,

44:34

I'm not kidding, like half the audience

44:37

was being carried because pot was

44:39

legal. So people were like taking

44:41

an edible and

44:43

or they were smoking this really,

44:47

really powerful weed.

44:50

And so like people were carrying

44:52

their date through the meet

44:54

and greet. And it was because they had had

44:56

this Denver left

44:59

party attitude, but they were doing it with

45:01

weed. And

45:02

it was right at the beginning. So it was like,

45:05

it was fascinating to witness that. Yeah.

45:07

The next day they were like, did I meet Jim

45:10

Gaffigan? Yes, yes, you did. Yeah,

45:12

we saw that show. Right.

45:14

Yeah. Those seem like not great audiences,

45:16

the really high audiences. Yeah.

45:19

I mean, they're, they're definitely

45:21

not combative, you know, but

45:23

it was just so it's like, you know,

45:26

it's like amazing to see.

45:30

Because like, just, you know, it's like

45:32

the pot that

45:34

that we smoked as teenagers.

45:36

Half the time it wasn't right.

45:38

It was a regular. You

45:41

know, it was just some shit that some jerk

45:43

sold us. And but like

45:45

now it's like the purest stuff in the world.

45:48

People are not used to it.

45:50

Right.

45:51

Our tolerances are low. Yes.

45:53

I'm surprised they have money for those meet

45:56

and greets with all the money they're spending on drugs.

46:00

Drugs, I call them drugs. I'm an old man.

46:04

Well, Jim, I know we have to wrap up with

46:06

you soon, but we definitely want to talk

46:08

about your new special, Dark Pale,

46:10

it's

46:11

on Amazon. Anything we

46:13

need to know? It's dark, it's a

46:15

little dark. It's dark. I'm gonna answer for you, Jim.

46:17

Yeah, you know, there is- Which I love, I love

46:19

it. There is something,

46:21

oh, thanks so much. Yeah. You

46:23

know, there is something about,

46:26

you know, I think the pandemic going through

46:29

the pandemic,

46:31

you know, there is

46:33

a certain cynicism that we

46:35

all kind of encountered. Right.

46:39

And, you know, like for me, it's,

46:41

you know, I'm not saying I would edit

46:44

or hold back on some of my

46:46

misanthropic tendencies, but

46:49

it was, so I was kind of,

46:52

I'm gonna be a little bit more dark

46:55

than I, maybe I have

46:57

previously or more dark than- Right.

47:01

In selective instances,

47:03

you know, and,

47:05

but you know, comedians, you're always

47:07

kind of hopefully evolving. So,

47:10

and it's a,

47:11

you know, I do think that doing

47:13

stand up

47:14

and people consuming

47:18

your stand up, that it should evolve,

47:20

it should change, and,

47:22

you know, like sometimes I'm like, all right, I'm gonna tell

47:24

a story here. It's like, all right, the

47:26

challenge of like, all right, I'm gonna try

47:28

and make funerals funny. I mean,

47:30

not that people haven't heard funeral jokes, but

47:33

like,

47:34

you know, it's, you know, we've all gone

47:36

through this, and I think human beings, we can't

47:39

exist in that,

47:42

that devastation of a funeral,

47:44

but there is humor in that

47:46

experience. But again, we, like we

47:48

can't live in the reality that,

47:51

you know, people we love are gonna

47:53

die, but like some of it is going through the

47:55

pandemic, we had to face that reality.

47:58

Right. Many of us did, you know, Like I lost

48:00

my aunt during it, and you know,

48:02

a couple of friends later

48:04

on. So it was just kind of

48:06

one of those things where it was,

48:09

I guess, top of mind. So I just kind of,

48:11

you know, wrote about it. Well, that's why I

48:14

thought it was so ingenious. You started out kind

48:16

of like, oh, here we are coming out. We're

48:18

all out of COVID. And then you were

48:20

talking about, yeah, like how everyone

48:23

became so callous during COVID. And

48:26

then I

48:27

just thought it was ingenious that that was your

48:29

kind of your spring. You're right there

48:31

talking about people dying during COVID and

48:33

you know, the new tally coming out and blah, blah. And

48:36

then boom, right into the funeral

48:38

stuff. And I was like, oh, that's such a great

48:40

natural way into all that darker stuff.

48:43

Yeah.

48:44

And then

48:46

I segway into diarrhea. Always

48:49

good to do some diarrhea stuff, right?

48:52

That's eternal.

48:52

It can be dark or light. You know, and-

48:55

Keep it highbrow, right? You know, it's

48:57

like you want to stay in the, you know,

49:00

you want the Peabody, something for the Peabody

49:03

judges, right? If

49:07

you look at Peabody, things that have won Peabody,

49:10

the diarrhea runs through all the winners.

49:12

It's a constant. It's

49:14

a consistency. It's there. Well,

49:17

thank you for doing this. Yeah, I know. Thank

49:20

you so much. It was great seeing you again. Thanks so much.

49:22

This was really fun, you guys. Yeah. This was fun

49:24

for us. Yes, appreciate it. Thanks,

49:26

Jim.

49:29

Thanks to Jim Gaffigan for joining us and

49:32

his new special. It's called Dark

49:34

Pale. It's out now

49:37

on Prime Video. Go check

49:39

that out. And we have a listener question. Ooh.

49:42

This is a very specific

49:45

one. It's from Michael Lockyer

49:48

from St. John's, Newfoundland.

49:50

Hello to you both. Oh, very formal. I've

49:53

been listening to the podcast since day one,

49:56

and absolutely love all the behind the scenes

49:58

stories. I'm from... Newfoundland,

50:00

Canada. And one of my fondest youthful

50:03

memories

50:04

is when Conan got screeched in

50:06

by Natasha Henstridge in quite

50:09

an old episode of Late Night. Oh, it is

50:11

specific. I've always wanted to know more

50:13

about that absolutely hilarious moment on the

50:15

show. I'm sure Mike was around at the

50:17

time.

50:17

Ah! Because

50:19

he's older than Methuselah. He's always around.

50:22

Mm-hmm. He

50:25

saw it all and remembers none of it.

50:27

Thanks for all the behind the scenes details of my

50:29

favorite show of

50:30

about 30 years. Really hope I

50:33

get to get some details on this probably

50:36

mostly forgotten moment.

50:38

I love you, Michael Lockyer.

50:41

Thanks, Michael. Thank you, Michael. We love you

50:43

too. You do. I had never seen

50:45

this clip. So I had to watch this.

50:49

Right. To know what

50:51

screeching in even is. I

50:54

had no idea. It sounds so Canadian. I

50:56

was in the same boat with you. Yeah.

51:00

So we looked up screeched

51:02

in is something very specific

51:04

to Newfoundland. Mm-hmm. I

51:06

supposedly it's like to, if

51:09

you're visiting Newfoundland, it's a drinking

51:11

ritual to prove,

51:14

to make you a temporary new fee. Oh,

51:17

I mean, it's basically a drinking.

51:20

It's an excuse for drinking. It's an excuse for

51:22

drinking. Yeah. Natasha

51:26

Henstridge is from Newfoundland. So

51:29

she came on the show and she gave, made

51:31

Conan drink some screech rum. And

51:34

I guess there's a poem you read and

51:36

Conan, I think

51:39

it was so funny because Conan just

51:41

started, of course, drinking the rum straight

51:43

out of the bottle.

51:44

Yeah. And the other

51:46

aspect of it, it's hard to tell from watching the

51:48

clip, but Conan's first baby had

51:51

just been born two days earlier.

51:53

And he, it

51:54

was his first show back from his baby being

51:57

born. And he was, he didn't

51:59

really take a... And then he had to get

52:01

the identity leave. Two days? Yeah.

52:04

And so- His wife was thrilled. Yeah,

52:07

well, listen, he had to- The

52:10

people needed late night. Exactly.

52:13

He's an essential worker on

52:16

the front lines. Okay, well,

52:19

thank you for the question and the memories,

52:22

Michael. And okay,

52:24

I have to give a little update.

52:27

At the top of the show, I was talking about

52:29

Altadena house shopping.

52:31

Right, where Sona lives. And the housing market. Yeah,

52:33

where Sona lives. Yeah. And I mentioned

52:35

that we were able to afford a house

52:38

there with a pool. Yes. Well,

52:40

I have an update because within the time that we've

52:42

been recording, that house sold

52:45

for way over the asking price out

52:47

of our budget. So we already

52:49

can't afford to live in Altadena anymore.

52:51

I thought you were gonna say you bought a

52:53

house in Altadena. That I bought the house, yeah. I

52:55

wish that's what I wanted to say. Okay. I

52:58

was gonna say, if anyone was listening,

53:00

was like, oh, I'm gonna go buy a house in Altadena. Right,

53:03

right, right. You already missed it. It's too

53:05

late. The window closed. The market is already

53:07

through the roof. The market's supposed to be going down

53:10

the tubes. What's happening? No,

53:12

it's just, it's worse than ever. You

53:14

know what? You mentioned that Sona lives

53:16

there and now every, that's when everyone started

53:18

bidding above the asking. That's

53:21

right, they got the Sona bump. Right. Yeah, yeah,

53:23

yeah. Well, I'll tell her that that's what she's done. Sure.

53:25

She ruined it entirely. And then, you

53:28

know, Sona is now gonna turn into Venice

53:30

Beach. Sonaville. Yeah. Or

53:33

Potterville. And it's a wonderful

53:35

life. Well,

53:39

that's our show. No, wait, wait.

53:41

You're gonna find a better house somewhere

53:43

else. Yeah, I'm gonna go even further into the mountains.

53:47

You're gonna move up to, what

53:49

is that? Lancaster. Oh,

53:52

sure. Yeah, that's only a two hour

53:54

commute. Let's look

53:55

in Lancaster. Oh, it's already out of our budget.

53:57

Yeah, well, yeah, Bakersfield. All

54:00

right, I'm Googling bait. Nope, that's a

54:02

whole. Damn, Fresno. A lot of

54:04

fish too. Gilroy, the garlic

54:06

capital of California. If only.

54:10

You'll actually be closer to San Francisco, but

54:12

I'll fly up there and we'll do it up there.

54:15

Have fun in Gilroy.

54:16

I think I have to move to Nevada,

54:18

I don't know. Would

54:21

you live in Nevada? Oh. I

54:23

don't know. I don't know. Do

54:26

you like to gamble? No. I don't

54:28

know. Do you gamble?

54:31

No, I don't. I once found a poker

54:34

chip on the ground and I cashed it out.

54:35

Oh. I hope you were

54:38

in a casino. I was in a casino.

54:40

Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Good,

54:42

good, good. No, I don't gamble. All right. I

54:44

know how to get us to the end of a podcast. By bringing

54:47

up, oh, so you wanna live in Nevada. Let me

54:49

ask you this, Montana. How

54:51

about Utah? Let's

54:54

jump to the East Coast now. Anyway, we gotta wrap this

54:57

up. Thank you, Michael. That was, I could

54:59

see why you remember that clip. It was really funny. And

55:01

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