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Sacred Water One
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We inherit Every
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gathering pool a blessing Formed
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by careful hands Each
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monsoon a heartbeat Turquoise
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vein
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The sound of underwater Brimmed
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with mosses Here
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laps the quiet tide of
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Two In
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the summers We would flock
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to my great aunt's swimming hole
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Down the canyon Dizzy
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from the jumbled journey in a truck bed Poke
1:48
at the tadpoles squirming in the
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red clay My
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mother watched from orchard shade
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She had been down here many years before
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with her sister
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her brothers picking
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apples, following the bend
2:05
of the river, leading the
2:07
goats to the wayside to
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drink.
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Now the water zooms
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with calm in your uranium.
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We trace the mud with our eyes,
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watch the petroglyphs stretch
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in the shadows, miss the
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feeling of the sun, wicking
2:26
river from her skin.
2:32
In 1956,
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the Glen Canyon Dam began construction
2:40
with an explosion. It
2:46
was hit with a demolition blast keyed
2:49
by the push of a button in the
2:51
oval office, the bottom of the canyon,
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dotted by Navajo,
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Ute, Paiute footprints,
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still pooling. The explosion,
3:01
a scar in the earth, still
3:03
aching with uranium mime, yellow
3:06
cake, yellow corn, tumbled
3:09
in the runoff, what do you call
3:11
infestral homestead, stopped
3:14
like a kitchen sink. The water
3:16
of your people redirected to ranches,
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fattened cattle that render the sand wan
3:22
undrinkable, quenched the white
3:24
men in bars that don't admit indians,
3:27
water and mineral, packed into
3:29
bombshells. How do you drown
3:32
by your own artery? Today the
3:34
lake has never been shallower,
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a drought of its own becoming,
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not even time to weep
3:40
before the crossing, before
3:42
the fleeing marina of familiar
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fossils, zebra mussels scour
3:47
the bones of old adobe stilled
3:50
beneath the surface. The
3:52
ancient sun rendered closer every
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day as the ranchers
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lament the withering. The
4:00
tourists, sticky with thin,
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docked their houseboats. The
4:05
people who have known this land
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see the slick rock
4:10
still emerging. Four.
4:18
In the third world,
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Coyote took the water monster's
4:23
baby. So the water monster
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decided to make it rain endlessly.
4:30
The water rose and flooded
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and choked the peaks of sacred mountains.
4:37
The beings that lived there did not
4:39
know where to escape the flood. What
4:42
saved the world was a reed
4:45
curling into the sky, a way
4:47
to climb out into a fourth
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world. There
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were things
4:55
that remained stolen.
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That holy people weeped for.
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And others looked to us with upturned
5:04
hands, asked where the reeds
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come from, flee to
5:09
the highest peaks, dream of
5:11
another world they can scurry
5:13
into. Through a wound in the
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sky they created, we
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have no answer for them.
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We have known this the entire
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time.
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Tell our stories,
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go to the water, tend
5:30
this land, and remember.
5:44
In 1956, President Eisenhower
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pressed a button in Washington, D.C.
5:50
An instant later, 2,000 miles
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away in the southwestern American
5:55
desert, an explosion shook
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the air. The
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explosion was in Glen
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Canyon, a ravine
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located near the border of Utah
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and Arizona. Like
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the Grand Canyon, Glen Canyon
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was carved out by the Colorado
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River. Centuries ago, the
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ancestral pueblans grew crops
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at the bottom of the canyon.
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They would chisel footholds into the
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nearly vertical sandstone walls to
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climb up and down. The
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canyon's red rock holds a whole
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people's history. But
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for nearly half a century, Glen
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Canyon's walls have been hidden from
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sight. That's
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because that day, in 1956, Eisenhower's
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explosion kicked off the construction
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of the Glen Canyon Dam. The
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dam worked like a kitchen sink stopper,
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preventing the Colorado River from flowing
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through Glen Canyon. Eventually,
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the entirety of Glen Canyon was
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submerged underwater. An
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entire desert ecosystem
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drowned. The body of
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water the dam created was named Lake
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Powell.
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The poem you heard at the top of the episode,
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called After Sacred Water, is
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about Lake Powell and the canyon it covers.
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It was written and read by Kinsel Drake,
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a Dene poet who used to spend summers
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with her family by Lake Powell. Like
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the canyon it covers, Lake Powell is
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long and thin. It
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snakes through the red desert running southwest
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through Utah, ending at the top
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of Arizona, curving in concert
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with the huge sandstone walls that
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hem it in. From
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above, it looks like a human artery.
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From the inside, it's idyllic. The
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water is crystalline. Every
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year, millions of people flock to the lake
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to fish, canoe, and hike. If
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you decide to take a swim in the lake's waters
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and look up, a couple hundred feet
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above your head, you'll see a stark
8:06
white line running along the red sandstone
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walls. Locals call
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it the bathtub ring. The
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bathtub ring marks where the lake's waters
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used to sit. The line
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is a visual reminder of the fact that
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the lake is shrinking.
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Right now, the American Southwest is in
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a mega-drought, a regular drought
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made way worse by the effects of climate
8:33
change. The longer this mega-drought
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continues, the more water disappears
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from the Colorado River.
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Today, Lake Powell is around a
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fifth of its original size. Pools
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that used to be deep enough to dive into
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have turned into puddles of mud.
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The water that American policymakers
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have been trying to control for decades
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is slipping out of grass. And
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as water disappears, the forgotten
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canyon beneath re-emerges. And
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as the drowned ancestral footholds slowly
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come back into view, we're pushed to
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remember the stories of the people
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who have lived in the Southwest for millennia
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and ask, what
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can we learn from them about how to restore
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and renew our relationship with the water
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we all depend on? I'm
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Leah Thomas. I'm the founder of Intersectional
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Environmentalist, an organization
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dedicated to amplifying the voices
9:31
of communities of color fighting against
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environmental injustice. And
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I'll be your host for this season of As
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She Rises. This
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season, we're listening to stories of resilience
9:43
from the Colorado River basin. The
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Colorado River is a vast and
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powerful body of water. It's
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the main source of water for 40 million
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people living in the American Southwest.
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And it connects in ways we don't often
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realize. The river is responsible
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for watering 90% of America's winter
10:07
vegetables. If you've eaten broccoli
10:09
or lettuce in the past few months, you
10:11
have the Colorado River to thank. And
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now, it's in crisis. A
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crisis we all have to contend with.
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Today, we're starting our journey just
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south of Lake Powell on Navajo
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Nation, the homeland of our first
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guest, Emma Robbins. The
10:32
sounds that I remember growing up specifically
10:35
are when it rained, and that sort of sound
10:37
when it hits the sand. And
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I think where I
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am today, it's raining, and it's something that always
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transports me back to home, and it's related,
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you know, not only to water, but our interaction
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with land. My
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name is Emma Robbins, and I am the
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Executive Director of the Navajo
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Water Project, and I
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am the founder of the Chapter
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House. I am originally
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from the Navajo Nation, and I live
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here on Tongva Land or in Los
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Angeles. I always
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say you can't be native or you can't
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be indigenous and not have some sort of connection
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to water. You
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know, I can only speak for my own tribe, but
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being a Dineh woman and growing up
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traditional in our culture
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and our beliefs, we're so tied
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to our land and we're so tied to our
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water. And that's something that you just
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can't separate with who you are. The
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Navajo Nation is the largest reservation
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in the United States. If it
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were a state, it'd be the 10th largest
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in the country. The nation's
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northwest border is partially
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by the Colorado River.
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There are many different communities within the
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reservation. Some people live
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in rural areas, others in more
12:08
urban areas, and each different
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community has its own unique relationship
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to water and land. Imma
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grew up in Tuba City, the
12:19
largest community on Navajo Nation.
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Tuba City has a pretty robust water
12:25
infrastructure, which means most
12:27
residents have access to running water.
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But just 30 miles south in
12:32
Cameron, Arizona, that's not necessarily
12:34
the case. I
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grew up with two sisters
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and my parents and we were
12:42
very fortunate enough to have running
12:44
water and a flush toilet in our homes. And
12:47
on the weekends I would spend time with
12:50
my grandparents in Cameron
12:52
and that was a really special time for me.
12:55
They did not have running water, they
12:58
used an outhouse and you know
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it wasn't really something that I thought about growing
13:03
up,
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it being an issue. There
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are so many people who are like myself who
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would spend weekends with their grandparents or the evenings
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and I think most of us
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until we got older didn't realize that not
13:16
having access to running water was
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a problem.
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There are 30% of people on
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the res who don't have access to clean running water
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and so it's a big part of
13:26
everybody's lives. It's not like
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there are the others who don't have water and there are
13:30
some who do, you're always intertwined in
13:32
that.
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It's not a coincidence that so many
13:38
people who live in Navajo Nation
13:40
don't have running water. It's
13:42
a direct result of US government water
13:44
policy. Over a hundred
13:46
years ago the US created the Colorado
13:49
River Compact. The compact
13:51
was created at a time when colonial
13:53
settlers were moving west en masse
13:56
and everyone was trying to stake their claim
13:58
to the Colorado River's water. So
14:00
the government stepped in and drew
14:03
an invisible line through the middle of the river,
14:05
right around where it crosses from Utah
14:08
into Arizona. The states
14:10
above the line, Colorado, Utah,
14:13
New Mexico, and Wyoming, were called
14:15
the Upper Basin. The states
14:18
below the line, Arizona, California,
14:20
and Nevada, were called the Lower
14:22
Basin. The Upper and Lower
14:25
Basins were each allocated 7.5 million
14:27
acre feet of water
14:30
per year. That's enough water
14:32
to turn the state of Delaware into a 5
14:34
foot deep pool.
14:37
The Colorado River Compact had a huge
14:39
impact on how states treated the river. Lake
14:43
Powell was created in part to hold
14:45
all the water promised to the Upper and Lower
14:47
Basins, and today the compact
14:49
still governs how much water
14:51
each state gets.
14:54
But here's the problem. The people
14:56
indigenous to the land the Colorado River
14:59
runs through weren't included at all
15:02
in the compact's negotiations, and they
15:04
weren't included in the compact's allocations.
15:08
Over the years, the government has signed
15:10
a number of trees with the Navajo Nation,
15:12
promising certain amounts of water
15:15
and water infrastructure. But
15:17
as they struggle to reallocate water in
15:19
the face of drought, the government
15:21
still tends to leave indigenous communities
15:24
out of the conversation. Today, 29 Native
15:26
American tribes
15:29
in the Colorado River Basin technically
15:31
hold senior rights to 20% of the
15:34
water in the basin. But in
15:36
the Navajo Nation, land that
15:38
sits right up against the river, many
15:40
people still have no access to
15:42
clean running water. Here's
15:45
Emma.
15:46
I think first and foremost it's important
15:49
to know that this is a direct relation
15:51
to violation of treaty rights and
15:54
not respecting our sovereignty and the federal
15:56
government not following through with promises.
16:00
So that includes keeping
16:02
us so spread out from each other, not having infrastructure
16:05
like roads or systems that make it
16:07
easy to transport things. Lack
16:09
of funding is a really big thing for putting
16:12
in water lines. It's
16:14
something that also affects people who don't have
16:16
water is generally they don't have electricity
16:18
as well. And so seeing a lot of these elders
16:21
grow older and not have
16:23
running water in their home really played a big
16:25
part in the way that I thought about it. Because
16:28
you know Navajos really believe in caring
16:31
for the elderly and taking care
16:33
of those people who took care of us.
16:36
And so seeing them having to do things
16:38
like haul water or travel far distances,
16:42
it took a toll on them physically and
16:44
mentally and it took a lot of their
16:46
time. And so I think growing
16:48
up I always knew that I wanted to help change
16:50
that because I did want to help care
16:52
for our elders.
16:54
But Emma wasn't sure exactly
16:57
what that would look like until she
16:59
learned about a nonprofit spearheading
17:01
an exciting new project. We'll
17:04
be right back after a word from this episode's
17:06
partner.
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Hello as she rises listeners.
17:22
I'm Mark Gold, director of water scarcity
17:24
solutions with NRDC. At
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NRDC we use the power of science, policy,
17:29
law and people like you to confront
17:31
the climate crisis, protect public
17:33
health and safeguard nature. We
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bring this approach to our work in protecting the Colorado
17:38
River basin. The seven states in
17:40
the basin are using far more water than
17:42
the river can provide. With water storage
17:45
and Lake Mead and Lake Powell approaching record
17:47
lows and climate change and wasteful
17:49
usage increasing water scarcity. We
17:51
must act now. To
17:54
provide clean and affordable water for all
17:56
we must increase efficiency, ban
17:58
unnecessary regulate
18:00
industry waste, and make sure the solutions
18:03
benefit overlooked communities. We
18:06
also must tackle climate change as a
18:08
driving force behind drought. That
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means ending new fossil fuel drilling.
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While
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Emma was working in Chicago as an
18:39
artist and an art gallery director, she
18:42
found herself daydreaming about going
18:44
back home and working on the reservation.
18:47
And then one day she came across an
18:49
article about Dig Deep, a
18:52
human rights nonprofit working to get
18:54
running water to the over 2 million
18:56
Americans that live without it. Emma
18:59
learned that Dig Deep had just started a
19:01
new branch called the Navajo Water
19:04
Project, which was created specifically
19:06
to supply running water to the 30% of
19:09
folks on the reservation who live without it.
19:12
It was the exact kind of work that Emma was
19:15
interested in. So she reached out
19:17
to Dig Deep and several months later, she
19:19
became the director of the Navajo
19:21
Water Project. Today,
19:24
the Navajo Water Project has 40 employees
19:27
and has brought running water to hundreds
19:30
of households on the reservation. They
19:32
do this by installing what are called home
19:35
water systems.
19:37
And what that looks like is digging
19:40
a hole and dropping
19:42
a cistern or a tank, which
19:44
is 1,200 gallons, and
19:47
then hooking that tank up to a
19:49
series of plumbing, a
19:51
pump, a filter, a water
19:54
heater, and then a sink.
19:56
And along with that goes a gray water
19:59
drain feed.
19:59
And we
20:00
have two different types of systems. We
20:03
have systems that are hooked up to
20:05
electric lines. And then we have systems
20:07
that are hooked up to solar panels.
20:12
The whole process takes only 24 hours. When
20:15
it's finished, there's a working sink with
20:17
running water inside the house. Which
20:20
means there's no longer a need to haul
20:22
water back and forth.
20:24
We are generally working in
20:26
very, very, very remote areas. So we
20:28
have the water truck operators who are
20:30
bringing water from safe sources. Because
20:32
that's very important to us to make sure that
20:35
people are not only getting water, but they're getting water
20:38
that is free of contaminants. And
20:41
so it's something that we need to
20:43
make sure that we are following up with
20:45
maintenance with. And I really stress
20:47
that because people who are interested in starting
20:49
any sort of project, working with communities
20:51
that have had so many promises
20:54
made and so many promises broken, really
20:56
important to make sure that there's follow-up to these
20:58
things. A big
21:00
part of what happened when I came
21:03
on was not only speeding up these installations
21:06
and making sure that people were getting
21:08
water, but rather that we were
21:10
doing it in a way that
21:12
was decolonized, but also
21:14
indigenized, Navajoized,
21:16
for lack of a better way to say it. Navajoizing
21:21
the Navajo Water Project meant
21:23
taking the unique needs of every community into account.
21:27
It meant resisting one-size-fits-all
21:29
solutions and finding ways
21:31
to really listen and engage with them,
21:35
showing up in ways that centered the community,
21:37
even when it was difficult. At the
21:41
very beginning when I came in, definitely
21:44
Dig Deep was working to work with the communities,
21:47
but then I started to realize maybe the best way
21:49
is not for them to come to us, but for us
21:51
to go to them, to individualize
21:55
this outreach and these connections. And
21:57
so we started to do things like... going
22:00
to the chapter house, which is a physical
22:02
location where people actually come
22:04
together and hosting
22:07
dinners and talking with people. And
22:10
it's not just people, it's elders
22:12
of the community and people
22:14
who are community leaders and
22:17
Navajo culture is a matriarchal one. And
22:19
so making sure that we're also specifically
22:21
listening to the women of the
22:23
communities, because oftentimes
22:25
we're the caregivers and we're the leaders ourselves.
22:30
My favorite project that I have ever
22:32
worked on in my entire career,
22:34
honestly, was with a school
22:37
called SMAZE, or St. Michael's
22:39
Association for Special Education. They
22:42
had a school for students
22:45
ages six to 18 and then
22:47
an adult residency program. All
22:50
of the community members there have disabilities
22:53
and the water project was really important because
22:56
some people had medical needs
22:58
like were using a G-tube or a tracheotomy
23:01
tube. And so it was really important that the water
23:03
was clean. But because their infrastructure
23:05
was so old, that we were seeing
23:08
a lot of high levels of things that shouldn't
23:10
be in water that were appearing and
23:12
they needed water heaters and
23:14
filters. And so we worked
23:17
for several years with them, but
23:19
it wasn't just like coming in and saying, hey,
23:21
we're going to do these tests, or we're going
23:23
to have engineers or consultants come
23:26
in and tell us what the problem is. It was
23:28
about really embedding ourselves there.
23:30
And so some of my favorite parts
23:32
of building community with SMAZE
23:35
was taking part in their Dr. Seuss
23:37
day and helping
23:40
organize an art exhibition where
23:42
the artists at the school had their work
23:44
included in a show in Chicago at a museum.
23:47
And
23:48
I think sometimes people see those
23:51
as
23:52
not important projects or not important
23:54
events, but those make such a difference
23:57
when not only you're building
23:59
trust. but also you're really getting
24:01
to know people who are already working on these issues.
24:07
The
24:07
Navajo Water Project blends creative
24:10
expression with public service. This
24:13
is a radical departure from how water
24:15
is typically managed in the U.S. Usually,
24:19
sweeping treaties like the Colorado River
24:21
Compact lump a bunch of states
24:23
together and ignore all the
24:25
intricacies of the communities that
24:27
populate the land. These
24:29
sorts of policies erase the wisdom
24:32
and the stories of the people who
24:34
know their land's water better than
24:36
anyone. And they're
24:38
part of the reason why today indigenous
24:41
people are faced with problems
24:43
like lack of water infrastructure and reservations.
24:46
The U.S. government's approach to water policy
24:49
has, in many cases, severed
24:51
the centuries-old ties between humans
24:54
and water, dehumanizing
24:56
people and the process.
25:00
Oftentimes, and not only with
25:02
Navajo people or not only people on reservations,
25:05
we're so dehumanized in so many ways
25:08
that it's like we're still mascots,
25:11
right? We're still jokes
25:13
in Hollywood. And so it's like if you're
25:15
still seen in that way, shape, or form,
25:18
oftentimes that can take a toll on you
25:20
mentally and it might start getting
25:23
to the point where you're like, I don't deserve
25:25
things like water or I don't deserve
25:27
things like electricity or internet connectivity.
25:30
And it's like, water is actually
25:32
a human right.
25:34
All living
25:37
beings need water, whether you're human or not.
25:40
And so I think we need to
25:43
shift from talking about it as if it's like this
25:46
thing that only some people can have.
25:49
It's something that everybody needs and everybody
25:51
should have.
25:53
And so I think it definitely
25:56
requires shifting in other ways.
25:59
And by that, I mean... the federal government honoring
26:01
treaties and taking our
26:03
opinions and our needs seriously,
26:07
changing all of that will help
26:09
people get access to running water.
26:13
Today, a recent lawsuit from the
26:15
Navajo Nation to expand their access
26:17
to water from the Colorado River is
26:19
in front of the Supreme Court. They
26:22
contend that the lack of water available
26:24
to them means the U.S. has fallen
26:26
short of its treaty promise to give
26:29
the Navajo Nation a, quote,
26:31
permanent home. Shouldn't
26:33
a permanent home include water? The
26:37
lawsuit is one small step towards
26:40
reconnecting the Navajo people
26:42
with water. The Navajo
26:44
Water Project is another step in that
26:46
direction.
26:48
I've been working on the Navajo Water Project for
26:51
seven years at this point, and it can
26:54
be really emotional work. And
26:57
I think it's
26:59
something where it's not just
27:01
about water. It's like you really start
27:03
to learn a lot more about the community, and
27:05
you start to learn people's names, and you start to
27:07
learn their families. All Navajos
27:10
have four clans, and it's the way that we
27:12
identify ourselves with people. And,
27:15
you know, traditionally we have something that's called
27:17
keh, and keh means kinship
27:19
or family or the way that we all relate to each
27:21
other. And so when you start working in these
27:24
communities, you realize
27:26
who you are related to because you have
27:28
the same clans. And so they're not
27:30
just people whose names are on
27:32
a piece of paper or on a computer screen, and
27:35
it's like, hey, here's the data. These people don't have water.
27:37
Here's the GPS coordinates of their homes. It's
27:40
like this person is my grandma or this person
27:42
is my dad, you know, by clan. And
27:44
so you get really invested.
27:56
The impact of the drought seeps into
27:58
every corner of Emma's life. It
28:00
becomes harder to fill up the trucks used
28:03
to deliver the water to the reservation
28:05
as watering sources dry up.
28:08
And while Emma travels to the Navajo Nation
28:10
for work, she lives in Los Angeles,
28:12
just like me.
28:13
In this city, we see signs of the drought
28:16
everywhere.
28:18
When I first moved here, I would
28:20
drive over this bridge and I would
28:23
look at a map and I'm like, why is there a blue
28:25
line on here? And then I started to research,
28:27
and it's like the LA River is here, and
28:30
I started to research how that was
28:32
affected by treaties. And then
28:34
I started making art, because
28:36
I'm an artist, I started making a body of
28:38
work about treaties in
28:41
California and how those relate to
28:43
LA. And then really started
28:45
making friends with people who are Tongva
28:48
or native to this land, who
28:50
are still here, obviously, and their
28:52
relationship
28:52
to the water.
28:55
Emma's thinking eventually led her to create
28:58
an organization called the Chapter
29:00
House, a space where native
29:02
artists can come together. It's
29:05
another manifestation of the same
29:07
goal, connecting native
29:09
people with water and restoring community
29:12
ties.
29:14
Figuring out ways to not only work
29:16
with people to get basic needs
29:18
like water, but also finding
29:21
ways to take care of ourselves
29:23
where it's not like we're in this constant
29:26
survival mode or we're in this mode
29:28
where we have to fight for clean water,
29:30
but coming together to just be
29:33
native and make art and take care
29:35
of one another and be in a restful space. Because
29:37
I think once we work on
29:40
these solutions, other things come up like,
29:43
hey, can we just like hang out and
29:45
have an art exhibition? And can
29:47
the art exhibition be centered around water?
29:50
So constantly thinking about how these things come
29:53
together is really exciting for me. The
29:57
poet you heard at the top of the episode...
29:59
Kinsale Drake,
30:01
worked with the Chapter House last year on
30:03
one of their exhibitions. Kinsale
30:06
was actually the one who recommended we
30:08
speak to Emma. So in a way,
30:10
this episode is a continuation of
30:12
a Chapter House partnership. Proof
30:15
of the ripple effect that collaboration
30:17
between Native artists can have. The
30:24
drought is forcing us to contend with
30:26
the fact that how we manage our water
30:29
right now just isn't working. As
30:32
the man-made lake pile shrinks, ancestral
30:36
Puebloans footholds come back into
30:38
view, reminding us of
30:40
the knowledge that we've forgotten, or
30:43
intentionally buried underwater. Organizations
30:48
like the Chapter House are vital storehouses
30:51
of Native knowledge, joy, and hope.
30:54
They challenge us to reimagine our relationship
30:56
to water. What happens
30:59
if instead of treating water like a luxury
31:02
to be hoarded, we understood
31:04
it as a resource that's meant to be shared,
31:07
as a sacred element that ties us
31:09
all together?
31:12
This season of As She Rises, we're
31:15
asking those questions. As
31:17
we travel down the river, we're centering
31:19
the voices of the people who have borne
31:21
the brunt of colonial water practices
31:25
in sharing stories
31:25
of their resilience in the face
31:28
of the drought.
31:32
Next episode, we're following the river
31:34
through the Arizona desert, down
31:37
to the bottom of the Grand Canyon, where
31:39
one tribe is fighting the extractive
31:42
uranium mining industry. You
31:46
can support the Navajo Water Project
31:48
by visiting their website, which is
31:50
navajowaterproject.org, and
31:53
follow them on Instagram at DigDeepWater
31:55
and on Twitter at DigDeepH2O. If
31:59
you want to learn more, about Emma's art organization,
32:01
The Chapter House. You can find information
32:04
on them at chapterhouse.org
32:07
and follow them on Instagram at chapterhouseLA.
32:10
And if you want to support Kinsale Drake,
32:13
check out her Indian Girls Book
32:15
Club. You can find more of her
32:17
poetry on kinsaledrake.com
32:20
and follow her on Twitter at Kinsale Drake.
32:22
All these links can also be found in our show
32:24
notes.
32:25
Thanks to Utah Dene Bikaya for
32:27
their cultural sensitivity
32:28
training.
32:33
As She Rises is a Wonder Media
32:35
Network production. Our creator
32:38
and editor is Grace Lynch.
32:39
Our executive producer
32:41
is Jenny Kaplan. Emily Rudder
32:43
is our head of development. The show
32:46
is produced by Carmen Borja Carrillo,
32:48
Ale Tajera, Brittany Martinez,
32:51
Adesua Agbonal, and Sarah Shleed.
32:54
Original music by Andrea, Kristen's
32:56
daughter, and Jessica Jarvis.
32:59
Until next time!
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